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November 21, 2008
Citibank Implodes!!!
Do get your money out! LMMFAO!!
Citigroup Board Said to Weigh Options as Stock Drops (Update2)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=arsOx8GtZ7Uo&refer=home
Citigroup, once the biggest U.S. bank, with a stock market value of $274 billion at the end of 2006, dropped yesterday to about $26 billion, slipping to No. 5 after Minneapolis-based U.S. Bancorp. A plan Pandit announced this week to cut costs by shedding 52,000 jobs and an endorsement by billionaire Saudi investor Prince Alwaleed bin Talal didn’t assuage shareholders’ concern that bad loans and securities writedowns may extend a yearlong run of net losses totaling $20 billion.
Citigroup, once the biggest U.S. bank, with a stock market value of $274 billion at the end of 2006??? And all that "Market Cap" got wiped out in 2 years???!!
Plus you think that your Brownstone can't go down in value???
I loving this...
Comments
Mr. B. when people continue to post the same thing day in and day out with rthe same pics it gets old.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 21, 2008 9:27 AM
Let's see.. Dave and Biff the last 2 Asshats standing! Dave go back to work and save you Hedge Fund.
Oh before you leave how is that "Buttermilk" thang going? Are you fucking Bankrupted???
LMMFAO A Gay assed shop in the middle of the Ghetto! You are a fucking loser..
Dave=POOWED!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at November 21, 2008 9:34 AM
Still unanswered...
The What, with all due respect, I think we can only conclude you are a fool for the following reason.
With all your wisdom, and given you're certainty that you were the only one who saw the current economic events coming, you must have either:
1) Made literally billions in your investment decisions over the past year or so. If this is the case, why would you be wasting your time here and not sailing around the world or splitting your time between your castle in Scotland, your villa in Italy and your beach house in Hawaii.
2) Not believed in and/or listened to anything you said and made no $$$s since last year.
Which is it?
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 20, 2008 9:59 AM
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 9:34 AM
Still unanswered...
The What, with all due respect, I think we can only conclude you are a fool for the following reason.
With all your wisdom, and given you're certainty that you were the only one who saw the current economic events coming, you must have either:
1) Made literally billions in your investment decisions over the past year or so. If this is the case, why would you be wasting your time here and not sailing around the world or splitting your time between your castle in Scotland, your villa in Italy and your beach house in Hawaii.
2) Not believed in and/or listened to anything you said and made no $$$s since last year.
Which is it?
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 20, 2008 9:59 AM
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 9:36 AM
"Biff please I trying to change my image here and you are not helping matters. If you don't have anything constructive to say them leave me alone. I'm not cursing and I'm being civil.."
Posted by: Return of The What at November 5, 2008 9:13 AM"
"Oh before you leave how is that "Buttermilk" thang going? Are you fucking Bankrupted??? LMMFAO A Gay assed shop in the middle of the Ghetto! You are a fucking loser.."
Posted by: Return of The What at November 21, 2008 9:34 AM
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 9:39 AM
Do get your money out! LMMFAO!!
Citigroup Board Said to Weigh Options as Stock Drops (Update2)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=arsOx8GtZ7Uo&refer=home
Citigroup, once the biggest U.S. bank, with a stock market value of $274 billion at the end of 2006, dropped yesterday to about $26 billion, slipping to No. 5 after Minneapolis-based U.S. Bancorp. A plan Pandit announced this week to cut costs by shedding 52,000 jobs and an endorsement by billionaire Saudi investor Prince Alwaleed bin Talal didn’t assuage shareholders’ concern that bad loans and securities writedowns may extend a yearlong run of net losses totaling $20 billion.
Citigroup, once the biggest U.S. bank, with a stock market value of $274 billion at the end of 2006??? And all that "Market Cap" got wiped out in 2 years???!!
Plus you think that your Brownstone can't go down in value???
I loving this...
Posted by Return of The What at 9:25 AM | Comments (5)
Categories: Demolition
LOSER!!!!
"I loving this"
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 21, 2008 9:42 AM
Biff I want people like you to lose everything and get the fuck out of New York!
That's what why I go what I do. Now you can stop posting here, you got your answer and BTW there is nothing you can say or do, it's over Motherfuckers!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at November 21, 2008 9:42 AM
"That's what why I go what I do."
No need to continue the jailhouse talk if you're actually on the outside now What. You're buddies coming over for your Down Low Thanksgiving stuffing???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 21, 2008 9:45 AM
"Do you even own property? I highly doubt it."
Why would you want to own property now, dumbfuck?????
You phase that question to look smart??
I want my city back and all of the Asshats to go back to Ohio.
It's thataway---->
Oh BTW I own a house...
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at November 21, 2008 9:48 AM
"You phase that question to look smart??"
QOTD
And in the same post, The What says
"Why would you want to own property now, dumbfuck?????"
"Oh BTW I own a house..."
He just POOWED himself again!
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 9:50 AM
"You phase that question to look smart??"
You certainly didn't. LMMFAO
Seriously, who out there can have any respect for this dimwit anymore???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 21, 2008 9:50 AM
"Biff I want people like you to lose everything and get the fuck out of New York! That's what why I go what I do. Now you can stop posting here, you got your answer and BTW there is nothing you can say or do, it's over Motherfuckers!"
What, sorry, that doesn't answer the question. Did you make billions or ignore your own advice? If you made billions and are only on this blog to try to drive me out of New York, you're a bigger idiot than even I could ever have imagined. Sorry, I won't be going anywhere, unlike you who hightailed it out. Enjoy Lodi.
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 9:53 AM
What-
Dont you live in Lodi NJ? Isnt that small town America where houses cost like $300K or something? lol...stop preaching to people here...we can all afford well more then you can, so you dont need to tell us your stupid little stories.
Posted by: nybk01 at November 21, 2008 9:54 AM
'dimwit'
Is that like a half-wit?
'He just POOWED himself again!'
I somehow like this phrase very much.
Go on boys, I'm enjoying this.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 21, 2008 9:57 AM
BRG, you just love to watch, don't you?
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 10:01 AM
"Brevity is the soul of wit."
- William Shakespeare.
SnarkSlope's posts - typically one or two sentences.
The What's posts - very long and rambling.
Shakespeare was brilliant.
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 10:03 AM
Yep!!! I love to watch people engaging in a heated forum.
Running down to Sahadi on Atlantic, do you want me to pick up some truffle oil and drop it off?
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 21, 2008 10:05 AM
Brevity is the soul of lingerie.
-Dorothy Parker
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 21, 2008 10:09 AM
"Running down to Sahadi on Atlantic, do you want me to pick up some truffle oil and drop it off?"
That would be wonderful, but I'm not sure if I have anything at home to put it on.
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 10:09 AM
Truffle oil is a waste of money.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 21, 2008 10:11 AM
"Running down to Sahadi on Atlantic, do you want me to pick up some truffle oil and drop it off?"
No BRG Lube up I want to bang your pie hole!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at November 21, 2008 10:11 AM
Ride Wit Me
- Nelly
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 10:11 AM
"Biff please I trying to change my image here and you are not helping matters. If you don't have anything constructive to say them leave me alone. I'm not cursing and I'm being civil.."
Posted by: Return of The What at November 5, 2008 9:13 AM"
"No BRG Lube up I want to bang your pie hole!"
Posted by: Return of The What at November 21, 2008 9:34 AM
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 10:16 AM
Time for What to be banned again
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 21, 2008 10:18 AM
Okay, I'm debating whether to respond to the 'What' (10:11) or not and it won't be sweet words. It might be the most vulgar things to come out of my mouth...what do you think, boys??
Biff, I can also have some meat sent over.
Biff, have you even heard the song...Ride wit Me? Did you ever listen to the lyrics?
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 21, 2008 10:22 AM
"No BRG Lube up I want to bang your pie hole!"
...dude...you live in Lodi...BRG wouldnt give you the time or place...
Posted by: nybk01 at November 21, 2008 10:23 AM
The posts really have progressed past "awww, isn't that retarded boy cute using big words" to Lenny killing the rabbits.
I think I may have to take a hiatus until Mr. B cleans up the spam around here.
Posted by: Bklyn Fire Alarm Guy at November 21, 2008 10:23 AM
"Okay, I'm debating whether to respond to the 'What' (10:11) or not and it won't be sweet words. It might be the most vulgar things to come out of my mouth...what do you think, boys??"
Oh, please do!
"Biff, I can also have some meat sent over."
Oh, please do!
"Biff, have you even heard the song...Ride wit Me? Did you ever listen to the lyrics?"
Yes, in between listening to Boxcar Willy and Zamfir, Master of the Pan Flute, I've fit in a Nelly song or two.
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 10:44 AM
"Time for What to be banned again"
See, I think Mr. B likes all the page views he generates, which is why he's never banned long. Now personally, I laugh when he talks about lubing someone's piehole, but that's cuz I'm crazy that way.
If you really want the What to get banned, what everyone has to do is refrain from answering his posts, and in fact, even from clicking on them. It's all about those clicks! Plus if no one answered him at all, he'd go away and start somewhere else.
Don't feed the trolls, OK Asshats? lol...
Posted by: denton at November 21, 2008 11:07 AM
For the record, I am not offended by what the ‘What’ wrote!
'Time for What to be banned again'
DIBS, I'm a true believer in the First Amendment, and do not believe in censorship on any level (well, maybe some instances, but it is extreme). I don’t think this calls for the What to be banned. He hasn’t said anything that we haven’t previously heard from him. Just because it’s directed toward me, a good person (go ahead laugh), doesn’t justify banishment.
Believe me I can handle comments and criticisms. Nothing shocks me. I have heard far more vulgar and lewd comments directed at me by better people than the ‘What’. I’ve also spewed more bawdy language than that myself.
I’ve also been criticized about things I’ve said and written (not here), but in my second profession, therefore leaving me opposed to censorship.
What people forget is that there are consequences for controversial comments and need to be prepared to deal with a broad spectrum of condemnation.
It is the responsibility of the proprietor of this forum to keep decorum. As a privately run entity, Mr. B can decide to do what he wishes.
Maybe, after I come back from Sahadi with my grapeleaves and chocolate covered nuts, I’ll spew some venom at the What.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 21, 2008 11:10 AM
Will you be using your grapeleaves to cover up your chocolate covered nuts??
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 21, 2008 11:13 AM
Hey bayridgegirl come here and suck me off...
"ROTW uses the same language as the unscrupulous "block-buster" real-estate agents who operated so effectively in NYC during the "white flight" days of the 60's. They peddled fear, and bought homes on the cheap from those who fled. He fails to understand that this is a different era. He may be trying to do the same thing, as there are runmours that he is a real estate agent. Pay no attention to him."
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at November 21, 2008 11:22 AM
Your DL buddies coming over to stuff your turkey What??
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 21, 2008 11:26 AM
What, I don't think you'd want to lose what's left of your brain.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 21, 2008 11:29 AM
I don't want The What banned and like feeding the troll. Each day he gives us a place to convene, beat him up, force him to leave and then engage in hijinks. It's become a Brownstoner ritual for us.
I just wish he could hold up his end of the conversation and be a bit more witty. Lines like "Hey bayridgegirl come here and suck me off..." are just not very creative.
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 11:32 AM
Okay, Biff, this one is for you...you asked for it.
Comment to What's original post regarding my....
OTHER READERS - PLEASE TAKE CAUTION WHEN READING BELOW...VERY VERY CRUDE LANGUAGE USED!
'Lube up I want to bang your pie hole!'
Is that what you heard in your jail cell everynight as your 'boyfriend' was plowing you. You wanted to cry like a bitch, but you couldn't cause your mouth was stuffed.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 21, 2008 11:34 AM
"Hey bayridgegirl come here and suck me off..." are just not very creative.'
Yeah, Biff..can you figure out a way to spice them up?
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 21, 2008 11:35 AM
"Your DL buddies coming over to stuff your turkey What??"
No Dave I'm having your mother over. She wants to taste my Egg Nog.
bayridgegirl come to the dark side.. Come on I know you can do it...
"ROTW uses the same language as the unscrupulous "block-buster" real-estate agents who operated so effectively in NYC during the "white flight" days of the 60's. They peddled fear, and bought homes on the cheap from those who fled. He fails to understand that this is a different era. He may be trying to do the same thing, as there are runmours that he is a real estate agent. Pay no attention to him."
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at November 21, 2008 11:38 AM
"Yeah, Biff..can you figure out a way to spice them up?"
It would be difficult to write something that could possibly be less erotic!
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 11:52 AM
hahahahahaha!
Posted by: nybk01 at November 21, 2008 11:55 AM
"Hey bayridgegirl come here and suck me off..."
"Lube up I want to bang your pie hole!"
"bayridgegirl come to the dark side.. Come on I know you can do it..."
BRG, as a woman, can you give The What some feedback on his game? Are lines like this effective in courting a woman?
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 11:56 AM
Yo what you see the articles
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122724451547447607.html
this was my favorite line
"It is clear that the debt markets have turned to commercial real estate with a vengeance," wrote David Fick, analyst at Stifel Nicolaus. He noted that rising yields in the CMBS market and thin trading may be implying "potential forward losses greater than anything that has ever transpired in modern real-estate history."
Posted by: derwood at November 21, 2008 11:59 AM
"Yo what you see the articles "
Well Derwood I don't have to see the articles anymore. The nukes are popping off everywhere!
I just saw another mushroom cloud!
Ohh Derwood look are the Investment Banks JPM, GS and Citibank...
Woo Hoo there is another one, Hot Damn!!!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at November 21, 2008 12:12 PM
"Yo what you see the articles "
Well Derwood I don't have to see the articles anymore. The nukes are popping off everywhere!
I just saw another mushroom cloud!
Ohh Derwood look at the Investment Banks JPM, GS and Citibank...
Woo Hoo there is another one, Hot Damn!!!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at November 21, 2008 12:12 PM
Still unanswered...
The What, with all due respect, I think we can only conclude you are a fool for the following reason.
With all your wisdom, and given you're certainty that you were the only one who saw the current economic events coming, you must have either:
1) Made literally billions in your investment decisions over the past year or so. If this is the case, why would you be wasting your time here and not sailing around the world or splitting your time between your castle in Scotland, your villa in Italy and your beach house in Hawaii.
2) Not believed in and/or listened to anything you said and made no $$$s since last year.
Which is it?
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 20, 2008 9:59 AM
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 12:16 PM
Hey What-
Your a dirtbag for talking to a woman like that regardless if your in a chat room. You are really a piece of trash and Brownstoner is the only way you can get anyone to listen to you.
Posted by: nybk01 at November 21, 2008 12:35 PM
yo what i know you love the stuff..
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122723321981146813.html
40B pulled out of hedgies last month the largest pull on record..
Posted by: derwood at November 21, 2008 12:40 PM
"Last Month, $40 Billion Pulled From Hedge Funds"
Oh hell naw Derwoord! It's more like 650 Billion!!!!!!!
There is a massive exodus to the exit door!!! That door is getting smaller and smaller!!
That's why I use nuclear explosions to prove my point! Those babies are going off like Roman candles!!!
Say good night to the Mutant Asset Bubble and Douche like DIBS can get the fuck out!
The What (Tick Tick BOOM!!!!!!!!)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at November 21, 2008 1:01 PM
Hey Derwood Lookie here!
Manzke ‘Disgusted’ by Hedge Funds, Seeks Investor-Rights Group
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=acMfhSDgRmwI&refer=home
Nov. 21 (Bloomberg) -- Sandra Manzke, an investor in hedge funds for more than 20 years, wants her peers to band together to stop what she calls “outrageous” behavior in the $1.5 trillion industry.
Manzke, 60, who founded Rye, New York-based Tremont Capital Management Inc. in 1985, sent an e-mail this week to 500 wealthy individuals, money managers and fund of funds calling on them to fight high fees and practices such as limiting or suspending client withdrawals. Her e-mail was forwarded to so many people that she’s gotten more than 500 responses, she said. All of them have been positive.
“While we all recognize the difficulties of the current market environment, I am appalled and disgusted by the activities of a number of hedge-fund managers,” she wrote in the missive, which asks investors to form a group -- the Hedge Fund Investors United Forum -- to protect clients’ rights. She declined to name specific funds until she compiles a list of those that aren’t acting in the best interest of clients.
I love it when they turn on each other. You see Derwood just grab a cold one, sit back and watch the nuclear explosions. They are so pretty....
The What (But But my portfolio is down 68%????)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at November 21, 2008 1:07 PM
VULGAR AND VERY COARSE LANGUAGE BELOW – READER BEWARE!!
What, You want to play this sick game of thrashing each other in every vulgar way.
Be careful cause I will give you such an ass raping, like you used to get in your cell block. But maybe that’s how you like it. And while you're begging for mercy, I’ll reassure that ‘Someday this was is gonna end’
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 21, 2008 2:09 PM
^^^should read.
I'll reassure YOU...
cause I'm a gentle person in that sense.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 21, 2008 2:11 PM
‘Hey bayridgegirl come here and suck me off..."
"Lube up I want to bang your pie hole!"
"bayridgegirl come to the dark side.. Come on I know you can do it..."
BRG, as a woman, can you give The What some feedback on his game? Are lines like this effective in courting a woman?’
I don’t think the What has a game in regards to courting woman. He’s definitely not a playa’
Here’s my advice to you.
Biff, depends on what stage of the courting game you’re in. Don’t use those lines on the first date, unless it’s a paid date. And whoever you’re on a date with, don’t call them ‘bayridgegirl’, I know I’m unforgettable!
Let’s go back to songs:
"Biff, have you even heard the song...Ride wit Me? Did you ever listen to the lyrics?"
Yes, in between listening to Boxcar Willy and Zamfir, Master of the Pan Flute, I've fit in a Nelly song or two.”
I thought you’d be listening to the Saturday Night Fever Soundtrack over and over....Just this image I have of you, am I right??
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 21, 2008 2:17 PM
Knock it off, all of you. You've gone to far.
I'm disgusted.
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 21, 2008 2:24 PM
"Knock it off, all of you. You've gone to far."
Cobblehiller no one ask them to come here. They could have started a thread (I think Brownstoner canned it) and went somewhere else. If I start a forum post you know the subject will be on the Mutant Asset Bubble and if you don't agree with my position then stay the hell away from me!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at November 21, 2008 2:34 PM
I agree with you What. I think they do this intentionally to get a rise out of you. I wish it wasn't so tempting to take their childish bait. I'd like them to knock it off. It seems like they try to incite you to try to get you to say something that will get you banned. So then they can feel good about themselves.
I think they should leave your posts alone. There are plenty of other places for anyone to post. It's a sense of entitlement they seem to have about the blog, and tromping over anything and anyone. It's turned a corner/gone too far this week.
I happen to think you've been pretty civil of late, not a surprise, I know you a little bit by now.
I just got really grossed out today. Usually I can ignore it, but for some reason it got to me. Maybe it's because I'm a woman, or maybe I just got fed up.
Didn't mean to piss you off. It's a two way street, I know, and they need to back off.
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 21, 2008 2:51 PM
cobblehiller,
I often like your posts, and glad you took umbrage generally at the tone today's thread took, but I think you are being too charitable to the what. Below are the first and second comments on this thread. Not sure about what's civility or the notion that his detractors incite his filthy responses. Doesn't look like he needs much inciting:
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Mr. B. when people continue to post the same thing day in and day out with rthe same pics it gets old.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 21, 2008 9:27 AM
Let's see.. Dave and Biff the last 2 Asshats standing! Dave go back to work and save you Hedge Fund.
Oh before you leave how is that "Buttermilk" thang going? Are you fucking Bankrupted???
LMMFAO A Gay assed shop in the middle of the Ghetto! You are a fucking loser..
Dave=POOWED!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at November 21, 2008 9:34 AM
---------------
Me again -- I don't care whether he's banned or not, but I really don't see what value others see in his contributions.
Posted by: slopefarm at November 21, 2008 3:10 PM
There's no value slopefarm; which is why I haven't been back. You've hit the nail on the head.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 21, 2008 3:19 PM
"I happen to think you've been pretty civil of late, not a surprise, I know you a little bit by now."
I have no problems of being civil but when the Asshats show up, I'm going to the top of my bunker and warming up the .50 cal! The reason why this have heated up is because of the collapsing of the Mutant Asset Bubble! People are going to get laid off soon and this holiday season is going to be real bad.
" just got really grossed out today. Usually I can ignore it, but for some reason it got to me. Maybe it's because I'm a woman, or maybe I just got fed up."
No cobblehille BRG has made a decision to join the merry band of Asshats and I view her as a enemy combatant. Her ass gets sprayed like everyone else!
To All Asshats and Assholes Brownstoner is not gonna "Ban" me, because I'm the only thing around here that keeps the fucking hits coming. I bought so much traffic to this Blog and got front page on NY Magazine!!! Suck on that shit Mother Fuckers and If you come into my post with Bullshit, I gonna let lose on you!
To all my peeps have a wonderful weekend and to all the assfucks I hope you fucking die!!!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
Posted by: Return of The What at November 21, 2008 3:29 PM
Cobbler, please take your own advice and "take a deep breath. Your sounding a little close to the edge, dear."
"I happen to think you've been pretty civil of late, not a surprise, I know you a little bit by now."
Cobbler, really, you're sounding delusional. Please refer to the quotes in slopefarm's post.
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 3:32 PM
Sorry Cobbler, I was too hasty. This must have been the civility to which you referred:
"Her ass gets sprayed like everyone else!"
"Suck on that shit Mother Fuckers and If you come into my post with Bullshit, I gonna let lose on you!"
"to all the assfucks I hope you fucking die!!!"
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 3:36 PM
Yep, Cobblehiller, the What is civil!!!
His 3:29pm proves it.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 21, 2008 3:38 PM
Now where were we BRG...
"I thought you’d be listening to the Saturday Night Fever Soundtrack over and over....Just this image I have of you, am I right??"
Yes, I loved that soundtrack and still do. You know a scene was shot under the Verrazzano Bridge? And his famous strut at the start during "Stayin' Alive" was around 86th Street just east of your 'hood?
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 3:39 PM
I won't be baited into playing your 'games' Biff.
slopefarm is entitled to her very civil opinion. I disagree with parts of it, but slope's entitled to it just the same.
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 21, 2008 3:41 PM
Yo What you stupid fool. All your talk about being civil but this is your first post above to your own thread....
"Let's see.. Dave and Biff the last 2 Asshats standing! Dave go back to work and save you Hedge Fund.
Oh before you leave how is that "Buttermilk" thang going? Are you fucking Bankrupted???
LMMFAO A Gay assed shop in the middle of the Ghetto! You are a fucking loser..
Dave=POOWED!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at November 21, 2008 9:34 AM"
A bigger hypocrite I've never seen. Anyone disagree???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 21, 2008 3:44 PM
For Cobblehiller:
Stockholm syndrome is a psychological response sometimes seen in an abducted hostage, in which the hostage shows signs of loyalty to the hostage-taker, regardless of the danger (or at least risk) in which they have been placed.
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 3:45 PM
Stop Biff. Just STOP.
It was bad enough. And you know what your part in it was.
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 21, 2008 3:46 PM
STOP.
DIBS, Biff and BRG, you have got to get a hold of ourselves and STOP. It went too far today.
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 21, 2008 3:48 PM
‘I agree with you What.’
QOTD
Cobblehiller…believe it or not, we don’t sit around and plot what we’re going to post to intentionally entice the ‘What’. We don’t plan on saying any of these things to see what will piss him off (psst…if you haven’t noticed, he’s already a pissed off person).
Granted these posts tend to veer and go off topic, but so do many.
I’ll give it to you, we are childish at times, and this one did go to the deep end and rightfully so.
‘It's a sense of entitlement they seem to have about the blog, and tromping over anything and anyone. It's turned a corner/gone too far this week.’
Cobblehiller, I’m not entitled and I certainly don’t feel that way. Nobody is tromping over anything or anyone. This thread did go too far. But answer this question….DID I DESERVE THE COMMENT FROM THE WHAT AT 10:11AM?
What about this one….IS THE WHAT ENTITLED TO CALL EVERYONE ANY VULGAR WORD HE SEES BEFITTING?
'I'd like them to knock it off’
I’d like for the ‘What’ to ‘knock off’ referencing me in his sexual fantasies using boorish language.
And if he doesn’t, it really doesn’t bother me, because I’m a well tempered adult AND I DON’T CARE what people say or do. It’s their right.
‘Didn't mean to piss you off.’
Really, cobble. You don’t think I should be pissed off at what the ‘What’ said to me, UNPROVOKED. Do I need to remind you, or maybe it’ll ‘gross you out’ (first one at 10:11am). As a woman, you should be outraged that your friend the ‘What’ would use that language with a female, when she said nothing to inflame him. Yes, I retorted in my defense in a vulgar tone, but it seems that’s the only vernacular the ‘What’ understands.
‘It's a two way street, I know, and they need to back off.’
Cobble, you can back off when someone attacks you, but I don’t. I give it right back to them and sometimes in a manner not befitting a lady.
After his initial comment referencing me in an offensive manner, some called for his banishment. I stood up (11:10am) and defending freedom of speech and opposing censorship - so in a way, I was defending your friend and his liberties to say what ever he wants in what ever manner. Give me some credit.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 21, 2008 3:52 PM
cobblehiller, please check out derwood's Forum post just below this and see how The What tried to disrupt a civil conversation toward the end. Educate yourself...please!
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 3:53 PM
cobblehiller...get ahold of YOURSELF. This is just another one of the What's incessant day-after-day posts to get attention. Do you really think it needs to stay on topic???
Look at the What's first post at 9:34 that I reposted at 3:44 and tell me you believe that some serious discussion is going to ensue on this thread after he starts out with that shit.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 21, 2008 3:54 PM
BAck to civilty
'Yes, I loved that soundtrack and still do. You know a scene was shot under the Verrazzano Bridge? And his famous strut at the start during "Stayin' Alive" was around 86th Street just east of your 'hood?'
Yes, alot of the movie was shot in Bay Ridge. Hubby never saw the movie, so we watched it about a month ago. I grew up in this hood, so I recognized alot of the streets. The house he lived in was also in this area, in the 80's somewhere, we went by there after watching the movie. It's completely changed.
BTW - I'm listening to a 70's disco CD right now.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 21, 2008 3:58 PM
Hubby never saw the movie? Wow! A relative had the soundtrack and I must have burned out the turntable listening to it. This is actually making me want to see it again. I used to go to an Italian barber back in the day where every customer, no matter if 5 or 95 years old, came out with the exact same Tony Manero 'do!
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 4:04 PM
Did you do any of the dance moves?
Yeah, hubby hasn't seen alot of the great movies. I make him watch classics all the time. I forced him to watch Gone with the Wind...he got annoyed, cause I was saying the dialogue along with the movie.
Funny...Macho Man is now playing.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 21, 2008 4:10 PM
In Bay Ridge, we're still living the movie.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 21, 2008 4:13 PM
I believe I said:
"Knock it off, all of you. You've gone to far.
I'm disgusted."
I see some of your points BRG. I do not believe that you should be spoken to in that manner. And What has heard me say before, and it will come as no surprise to anyone that I do not condone it. That said, you guys, individually or collectively bait What. You could take the tack of leaving his threads alone or being civil. And granted, Dave's first post today was annoying but fairly benign. However, it was designed to incite What. Again, I do not condone the words used against you. Biff incited What, and you got caught in the crossfire. It needs to stop.
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 21, 2008 4:13 PM
"Did you do any of the dance moves?"
Which ones didn't I do?!? Although I had to do them at home in front of a mirror as I was still a few years away from being able to get into clubs.
I really enjoy watching older movies shot in New York. How about A Tree Grows in Brooklyn? That tugged on the old heart strings.
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 4:16 PM
Cobble,
Truth be told...we're baiting each other and the 'What' is getting caught in the crossfire :)
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 21, 2008 4:18 PM
I for one would like to see us going back to being friendly and not letting What or anyone else tear us asunder. I have tried of late to find my own peace with What--discuss what he has to say when I find it in any way interesting or even if it pisses me off. The other times (like today) I stay away because nothing I could add would improve the situation. But it does bum me out to see people I like (Biff, DIBS, BRG, cobblehiller) fighting with each other. Maybe slopefarm and I should referee a mud wrestling match?
Seriously though, I don't know if there is "blame" here. What has gone out of his way enough times to antagonize and berate others and so it is not that surprising to see that others want to give it back to him. At the same time, there seemed to be a moment a week or two ago where we all had our place here and What could do his bat-shit crazy act in one corner and the Brownstoner type stuff could be discussed in another. There was some razzing and insulting but not to the degree we have seen today. But I find it hard to blame anyone here because I think of all you (even What in his bizarro way) as my friends. Hope we can figure out how to disagree in a more productive way than this. Also hope that nobody takes offense at what I have written here. It is just my off the sleeve reaction to this thread.
Posted by: wasder at November 21, 2008 4:18 PM
"Biff incited What, and you got caught in the crossfire. It needs to stop."
cobblehiller, seriously, get a grip! Please refer to The What's first post at 9:34 am involving me before I even made one comment. And can you please comment on derwood's post and tell me who incited whom?
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 4:20 PM
No, it's fine wasder, thanks. I really want it to be more peaceful too.
And it seemed for awhile that things had settled down. But today I just couldn't take it. Biff and DIBS are way out of line with me. Where I was upset at the group earlier, I've now taken offense at the things DIBS and Biff have said, they've been out of line with me this evening.
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 21, 2008 4:24 PM
I was a baby when that movie came out.
'I was still a few years away from being able to get into clubs.'
you didn't have a fake ID??
I like watching old movies! Yeah, watching movies shot in NYC is a thrill.
Admittedly, I never saw A Tree Grows.... I've read the book.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 21, 2008 4:25 PM
STOP Biff. Just stop.
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 21, 2008 4:25 PM
"STOP Biff. Just stop."
Sorry, but I won't when you keep bringing me up. And like you repeated your question to The What until he answered, "can you please comment on derwood's post and tell me who incited whom?"
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 4:29 PM
"you didn't have a fake ID??"
Yes, but for some reason nobody believed that I was a 54 year old Indonesian woman working as a flight attendant for Aer Lingus. (I didn't have a connection to a good fake ID shop).
You have to see A Tree!
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 4:31 PM
Good night Biff.
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 21, 2008 4:31 PM
'Also hope that nobody takes offense at what I have written here.'
Yes, Wasder, I'm offended, you didn't use vulgar language. Get with it :)
Can we please all settle down and discuss movies.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 21, 2008 4:32 PM
No answer, cobblehiller. Shocking. Have a drink and take a deep breath.
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 4:34 PM
I did make a weird faux pas by saying "off the sleeve" instead of "off the cuff." But if its fowl language that we need, let me say "duck you."
Posted by: wasder at November 21, 2008 4:35 PM
BRG, perhaps a discussion on One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest would be a propos?
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 4:35 PM
wasder, forget duck you, I prefer Duck Soup. Now THAT was a classic! It quacked me up.
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 4:38 PM
"who incited whom?"
I always get confused by the use of who and whom.
Yes, but for some reason nobody believed that I was a 54 year old Indonesian woman working as a flight attendant for Aer Lingus.'
They might beleive you now. Try flashing that ID
Biff..also, be civil to Cobble, peas...let's give it a rest already.
It may be a while before I see A tree....don't have time these days.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 21, 2008 4:39 PM
Biff...you are so forny!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 21, 2008 4:42 PM
BRG, wasder and anyone left here...I say we move this to the newly posted nybk01 thread under the Forum which doesn't have all this commenting baggage! See you over there...
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 21, 2008 4:44 PM
Sounds good. I'm on the train to Philly. There's a beautiful sunset out my window. You know what they say....Red sky at night...
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 21, 2008 4:48 PM
'You know what they say....Red sky at night'
keeping this in here...no, DIBS, I don't know what they say...do I need that dictionary again?
Red Sky at night??????
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 21, 2008 5:05 PM
Okay..answered my own question...but doesn't make any sense except for one word....sailors!
Red sky at night, sailors delight.
When we see a red sky at night, this means that the setting sun is sending its light through a high concentration of dust particles. This usually indicates high pressure and stable air coming in from the west. Basically good weather will follow.
Red sky in morning, sailor’s warning.
A red sunrise reflects the dust particles of a system that has just passed from the west. This indicates that a storm system may be moving to the east. If the morning sky is a deep fiery red, it means a high water content in the atmosphere. So, rain is on its way.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 21, 2008 5:10 PM
BRG..."Red sky at night, sailors delight. Red sky in morning, sailors take warning" Its just about the weather. Don't read too much into it.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 21, 2008 5:11 PM
I had a few of them from the Nimitz when I was living in Hong Kong and it came in for shore leave.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 21, 2008 5:12 PM
I had to get some work done, thank GOD...
Cobblehiller fighting a war takes o'lot out of you also it takes restraint. This prove what I been saying that the merry band of Asshats is hard to take. I like to discuss the finer points of the Mutant Asset Bubble and if you don't agree with me then fine but I will not put the sword down. Dave and Biff are 2 Homo ass punks (Yeah I said it and Man enough to back it up). I remember a while back that biff said "He would give me the beating I deserved) Good I'm not going to make any threats but I will say this I will not be at any gathering of this group!
America is deep fucking shit and do you know how we got here? Dumb MotherFuckers like Dave and Biff.. Yeah the 2 Assholes of Brownstoner. That punk Dave try to start a post on Truffles and Brownstoner shut that shit down and do you know why?? It had NOTHING to do with NOTHING???
EVER since the NY Mag story Biffuck has a hard on for me well hopmeboys I'm in the fucking hood where you live at make sure we keep this on this Blog!
Real Motherfucking talk!!!!!!!!!!!
The What (Now I fucking pissed you fucked with Cobblehiller you fucking punks DAVE & BIFF The What's most wanted)
Someday this war is gonna end....
Posted by: Return of The What at November 21, 2008 10:39 PM
I am new here and just started reading some of the posts and quickly stumbled upon the controversy to some degree of The What's posts.
I have to say although he throws around insults he has some good points. It would be cool to have good discussion of the difference between invading and taking over a neighborhood because you could afford to buy up property and want to get rich off it, or choosing because you like something about the home and community and you want to invest and be a part of it.
I've lived in Bushwick for 8 years and have noticed waves of people (artist types) who worked hard to make this a better place to live and now are already being priced out. I don't know what will happen now since a lot of developments are going to be empty perhaps. I just wonder what is the compromise between all of this. I don't think that all people who move to Bushwick or Bedstuy to make a home there should "go back to Ohio". But I also agree that it's much better to not want to radically change the culture, for instance build relatively ugly brand new luxury condos that none of the local people including artists who've been around for years can afford.
Change is always going to happen everywhere. Where is the tolerance? I've never owned property. But I make wherever I live a home and get involved in the community. I'm from Michigan originally. Question for The What, do you think I should go back? Sadly its just as depressed there as the 'hood here and I think more so. People of all backgrounds and colors can't afford $700,000 brownstones. The majority can't. The economy crashing is not gleeful. It's true that the taxpayers are left holding the bag. The middle class and working poor have been screwed a lot and a few of them did it to themselves. A lot of rich people are miserable. But I think people will keep coming to Bushwick and Bedstuy because Manhattan has turned into luxury rental and franchise land and a lot of working people, artists, musicians etc... need affordable housing with access to Manhattan. It doesn't make sense to me that "hipster kids" with $10 bucks in their pocket who are just as poor usually as everyone else get hit with a bat and mugged because they are on someone's turf and perceived to be rich. Although I'm also annoyed at trendy fluff restaurants and cafe's with attitude that attract people seemingly oblivious to where they are. Maybe that's what bothers The What so much.
Posted by: bushwickpoet at November 22, 2008 1:19 PM
"Question for The What, do you think I should go back? Sadly its just as depressed there as the 'hood here and I think more so. People of all backgrounds and colors can't afford $700,000 brownstones. The majority can't. The economy crashing is not gleeful. It's true that the taxpayers are left holding the bag. The middle class and working poor have been screwed a lot and a few of them did it to themselves."
bushwickpoet That's a very good question. I don't have the answer but I remembered the good ole days of the 70's and 80's. I'm seeing those same patterns again and I am afraid.
I know about the dynamics of living a bad neighborhood but I don't know if you do.
Things are going to very rough and just because you asked me this question in a civil way, I hope the best for you. Just understand the surroundings and adapt to the circumstances.
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at November 22, 2008 1:47 PM
Good morning What, Thank you for your note above. Sorry I didn't comment sooner, I needed a little time to think, and it was a crazy busy weekend.
I appreciate what you have to say. And as I have said umpteen times before, I like reading your posts. I won't always agree with everything you say, or better put 'how' you say it, but for the most part I think your posts are interesting and bear thought and consideration. I think you and I have similar feelings in respect to what our neighborhoods, and greater Brooklyn, were like so many years ago, and the changes we have seen them go through as we grew up and now. I feel some connection to you in that respect. You and I have always had a good rapport, and I appreciate that.
I won't comment on the 'asshat' factor. It's not worth it to me. I am still surprised by and digesting the various responses. I have bigger 'fish to fry' in my life at the moment - job, family, Better Half - so I'll focus on those things instead.
One day perhaps you and I will meet for coffee - or maybe something less caffinated! [:)] and we can mull over/dissect the finer points of some of the topics of interest to us.
In the meantime, I'll take a step back here on the blog, and keep reading your posts, and try to get back to the feeling and reasons that I enjoyed being here.
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 24, 2008 9:36 AM
Be well Cobblehiller and I understand the tone has be negative lately. I find it just shocking how people are ignoring the times we are in. The Government is giving money to financial institutions that have wreck America! The people are going along with because they beLIEve this will benefit them. Look for income and get your debt down and batten down the hatches because 2009 will be quite the year....
The What (Painting the bunker Camo green)
Someday this war is gonna end..
Posted by: Return of The What at November 24, 2008 10:35 AM
Say, How much did you love Steve Forbes saying that Paulson is the worst Treasurer ever!?!
I think I'll be ok What, thank you for the sound advice!
[Camo Green! Go go go!]
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 24, 2008 11:29 AM
"Say, How much did you love Steve Forbes saying that Paulson is the worst Treasurer ever!?!"
Yeah but Paulson is looking out for his Homeboys, pure and simple! Bush is leaving Obama a streaming pile of shit to deal with.
I going to take a break from posting here. Brownstoner has jumped the shark and when you take down my post on the economy I think it's time to go. I have other things to worry about and I not going to waste my energy and time posting here. America is full of Asshats and they will be shocked how fast this thing implodes! 306 Billion to Citibank just disgusting!
Hey Cobblehiller of you get a chance please watch this:
http://www.besthistorysites.net/USHistory_GreatDepression.shtml
The What (I'm done)
Someday this bullshit is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at November 24, 2008 11:47 AM
What, are you really out? You should, as you have been told many times, start your own blog where you can be king of the world and not have to fit into someone else's standards.
Posted by: wasder at November 24, 2008 11:55 AM
"I going to take a break from posting here. Brownstoner has jumped the shark and when you take down my post on the economy I think it's time to go. I have other things to worry about and I not going to waste my energy and time posting here. America is full of Asshats and they will be shocked how fast this thing implodes! 306 Billion to Citibank just disgusting!"
I just got received a pic of The What taken during his post above and now understand what he was referring to with his reference to people playing in his pond and all of his statements advising us MF's to duck.
http://i30.tinypic.com/2lc5te8.jpg
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 24, 2008 12:24 PM
WHAT this is the issue that brought me to posting on this site and coming to this site for the most part..i'll keep an eye out for you on the www.good luck and soon enough people won't need to tell them about the brutal end of the MAB.
this is not the last of the WHAT
derwood
(someday brownstoner will learn..)
Posted by: derwood at November 24, 2008 1:14 PM
derwood, The What isn't banned (as far as I know). Mr. B has just, like he said he would do on Friday, remove Forum posts that were not directly related to topics that the Forum was intended to be used for. There's nothing to stop The What from posting on the front page of the blog. If he's going to disappear because he can't have his own little thread (why can't he post in other threads like everyone else), he really should just start his own site.
And since you're reasonable, please understand, as we've said here infinitum, that we are not denying things are bad or that there was no real estate/asset bubbles. We get it. There is no new information being presented in these threads that we couldn't have gotten from the various websites which The What cuts and pastes from. As incredulous as he is thinking we don't get it, we're more incredulous that he still thinks he's the only one who knows what's happening. Many of the posters he likes to put down are in finance and on the front lines of today's events - unlike him. As much as he likes to convince himself he's a genius, we all know what he knows and then some. He'll never admit it because it'll ruin his shtick, but it's the truth.
Regardless, he won't disappear from here; nobody really believes that. He'll be back posting on the blog that he long ago claimed jumped the shark but never permanently left.
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 24, 2008 1:25 PM
Biff, I understand that. But I think if we are to be vigilant about what B-stoner posts and what he doesnt Im sure there will be plenty of posts that are not specifically on topic.. It is just concerning to me the screening of material that seems to be more ideologically driven than content driven. I dont know, I have concerns when it comes to censoring based on ideological content (like the Fairness Doctrine that looks the FCC will be passing under O's administration). I think people are adults and let the people deem what is "print" worthy or not. If people don't give a damn about him you have 2 choices 1. engage him or ignore and his viewpoints will be vetted by his peers. Obviously people myself included do enjoy his posts, which you can plainly see by the number of posts to his threads outnumbering others by 20 to 30 times the volume. Just one man's opinion. History will bear the truth about those whose censor based on ideological difference and masking this censorship under editor's prudence..
good luck!
vive la what!
someday soon this war will end!
Posted by: derwood at November 24, 2008 1:41 PM
derwood, I understand your concern and as I've said over and over, I don't believe anyone should be banned from posting. You and I are probably much more in agreement on this than you think - I've been a huge Noam Chomsky fan since before his Manufacturing Consent and read (and agreed with) just about everything people like him, Howard Zinn, etc. have written on free speech and the media. In fact, The What and I also agree on many things, not least of which is our strong backing of Obama and the Iraq invasion.
But I really don't think Mr. B is censoring anyone or anything based on ideological content (he's removed past posts of mine and daveinbedstuy despite people somehow thinking we are part of the "Brownstoner establishment".) If I thought he was, I would be as quick to call him out on it as anyone.
Again, the question to me is, can The What still post on the main page and, if not, then I think that's wrong and we should confirm he's banned and ask why. If he can post but chooses not to because he prefers to post back in the Forum, that's not censorship. I have a feeling if I post something in the Forum tomorrow mentioning how wonderful I think Paulson is (obviously hypothetical example), I don't think it would last very long either.
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 24, 2008 2:00 PM
I wasn't going to comment on this but Biff, you said something that disturbed me.
'our strong backing of Obama and the Iraq invasion.'
Biff, you really supported the Iraq invasion?
I'm rethinking our friendship. I'm a bit troubled by your view on this.
I don't want to get into the politcs of the war, just confirm your view.
Practice your usual diplomacy here, or you might get a nasty email from me. Not a super nice one.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 24, 2008 2:50 PM
"Biff, you really supported the Iraq invasion?"
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO! YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!
Immediate re-write by Biff required and shown below:
"not least of which is our strong backing of Obama and OPPOSITION TO the Iraq invasion."
BRG, I was COMPLETELY against the Iraqi invasion (if I was for it, I would be referring to it as a war, which it isn't). I joined every local protest prior to the war and was feverishly trying to change the opinions of those around me (i.e., at work) who supported it, which is something I could not believe they could do. My very mention of Chomsky (one of the strongest critics of US foreign policy) should make my position clear. Regardless, the people were lied to (about WMD) but even so, many of us saw through the lies right away and tried all we could to have the U.S. stay out of Iraq. The awarding of mind-blowing contracts to Haliburton and other of Cheney's interests made the bloodshed all the more appalling. I've mentioned many times my thoughts on the war and the U.S. slaughter of over 100,000 innocent Iraqi civilians and even posted a link to a site that presents statistics on such carnage to show exactly how bloody our hands are. This is unfortunately just one of many military horrors initiated by the US that has resulted in destruction of countless civilians worldwide. And people think we're hated because they're jealous of our freedom!
Now where's my nice message??
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 24, 2008 3:06 PM
Okay, then.....and thank you for clarifing that.
'Now where's my nice message??'
When I have time, I'll send you an email. Have been very very busy, and I got burnt out this weekend. I told you it was going to happen. I am physically and mentally exhausted.
So, sorry for my lazy responses.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 24, 2008 3:16 PM
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