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July 21, 2008
what's the real deal on crime in Lefferts Manor?
am considering the neighborhood but have been hearing alot re home break-ins lately. How safe REALLY is this neighborhood? sure, I've looked at the precinct stats, which are concerning...
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Not sure what you are comparing these stats to to find them concerning. Here's the stats for the 71st:
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statistics/cs071pct.pdf
Some people will take the % increases in some categories as an excuse to tell you you'll get shot in the head on the street if you move to LM; others will tell you they've lived in LM for 30 years and never locked their doors. LM and PLG in general brings out a lot of intense debate (read: vitriol) on this board. From a personal standpoint I live in LM and feel very safe here, but then I lived on Ave C in Manhattan in the 1991 and felt safe there, too. It's really a matter of what your comfort level is. It also matters what specific block you're talking about. Like most NYC neighborhoods, one street over can be a whole different world.
Posted by: geekspice at July 21, 2008 9:35 AM
WHAT'S THE REAL DEAL ON CRIME IN PARK SLOPE, BROOKLYN HEIGHTS,COBBLE HILL...? Read precinct reports! Find the crime free niche of Brooklyn. Move there and be happy. Shangri-la is only the next precinct report away.
Posted by: kidbklyn at July 21, 2008 9:38 AM
The 71st precinct, which covers Prospect Lefferts Gardens, East Flatbush and South Crown Heights, is enormous. PLG, and Lefferts Manor especially, cover a tiny fraction of the precinct. So the statistics can be a bit misleading. I haven't heard anything about a recent rash of break-ins here in PLG, but they happen here like anywhere else. I've found the neighborhood to be safe, and feel comfortable walking around at all hours, particularly in the blocks closer to Flatbush and the park.
Posted by: Frederick Law Homestead at July 21, 2008 9:41 AM
Far safer than some of the nonsense posted here in the past might lead you to believe. There was a burglary on my block of Midwood Street a few weeks ago, but it was through a first floor front window left open when the residents were away. This event was unusual enough to be the talk of my block for several days. A few years ago there was a burgler whose MO was to spread apart the bars on ground floor windows where the windows were left open--he would not break glass or force a window lock. Fortunately that one-man crime wave was stopped when the guy was arrested. He's serving a long prison term.
In the 33 years I've lived in LM I had one burglary over twenty-five years ago (through an open window--anyone can forget) and a couple of car break-ins a few years before that. No other encounters with crime, other than a couple of thefts of garbage cans and one plant theft.
I feel very safe here.
Posted by: Bob Marvin at July 21, 2008 9:43 AM
What geekspice said.
Posted by: Frederick Law Homestead at July 21, 2008 9:50 AM
I live on Ocean and I feel pretty safe here. I've walked around in the manor at night. It also seems safe but somewhat isolated.
Posted by: slick at July 21, 2008 4:57 PM
I'm signed up on the "Neighborhood Watch" crime emails for Lefferts Manor/PLG and the Midwood robbery was one I missed. Maybe it was only discussed among neighbors and wasn't posted on the Watch emails. Which it really should have been.
Outside of that just now, I have never heard of any of our neighbors being mugged or their houses robbed. Except for shrubs stolen in front of houses. It's an important question to ask about crime. But whatever the general perception is about a neighborhood I'm still very watchful wherever I am, whether here, or Park Slope or Park Avenue. Maybe it's square of me but I never let myself feel completely *safe* anywhere in New York City. My husband was mugged in prime North Park Slope when we lived there and so was our neighbor there, both times it was right in front of the buildings. So we learned our lesson about that.
Posted by: traditionalmod at July 21, 2008 5:35 PM
I often walk around the Manor at night. It feels very residential, and quite safe. Somehow knowing who lives in the houses, and knowing that the houses are occupied by their owners, makes me feel safer than I do in areas with lots of tenants.
Posted by: dt at July 21, 2008 6:41 PM
traditionalmod,
The Midwood Street break-in wasn't posted on the "Leffertswatch" neighborhood watch list to which you referred. You're right that it should have been. Since you brought it up, the relative lack of activity on Leffertswatch may be seen as an indicator of how safe the neighborhood actually is. Most weeks [actually most MONTHS]there are no posts, as opposed to the more general Lefferts List, which has a lot of activity. The last four posts on Leffertswatch were two this week about suspicious characters who looked like they were going through mail, one almost two weeks ago about another suspicious character seen taking photos of children in Prospect Park,and one from two months ago about a raccoon spotted in a tree on Maple Street.
Posted by: Bob Marvin at July 21, 2008 7:19 PM
Just a ditto on safety here. We have never felt threatened or experienced any problems, I would compare it favorably to our last home on the upper west side of Manhattan.
Posted by: LM at July 22, 2008 5:56 PM
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