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April 25, 2008

DOB question - enlargement and Alt Type II

Hey all,
I have a question for you all. Can a job be a horizontal enlargement and an Alt Type II? I thought that any enlargement is an Alt Type I. I was looking over a neighbors job on DOB, and noticed that it is an enlargement but it is an Alt Type II. Because of the enlargement, shouldn't they also need an amended C of O?

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Type I = Change of Use, Egress or Occupancy.
Type II - NO change to Use , Egress or Occupancy.

Are you changing the.....
Use of the space, ie. from residential say to commercial.
Egress - the path and location of exits
Occupancy - are you changing say ie... from a one family to a 2-family, etc.

If you're just enlarging to get say a bigger kitchen....Type II.

the architect you use will take care of all this.

Posted by: guest at April 25, 2008 1:56 PM

Does a horizontal enlargement into the rear yard change egress, since all rear doors were changed/moved. They also added a full bathroom. Does that matter?

Posted by: sxm at April 25, 2008 4:44 PM

I'm assuming this is a 1 family.

No...doesn't change egress.

Posted by: guest at April 25, 2008 5:00 PM

1:56's statement is not correct -- an Alt 1 is also required for any addition of bulk to a building. This includes adding height or adding square footage in plan.

Something to the DoB website doesn't square up if it's saying this is an Alt 2.

Posted by: Smokychimp at April 25, 2008 11:12 PM

SmokyChimp is right. If the size of your rooms change (i.e. are enlarged) you have to recalculate your occupancy and your egress. The actual result/outcome of your calculations may be that nothing changes, but it it is still an Alt 1. You have to prove it still complies.

Posted by: guest at April 27, 2008 5:34 PM

an enlargement can be an Alt-2. Did DOB already approve the plans as an enlagement under Alt-2? If so, there's your answer.

Posted by: guest at April 28, 2008 1:58 PM

yes, the DOB did already approve plans as an Alt2. BUT, DOB makes mistakes everyday. BTW, this was not self-certified.

So, who is correct? the Guest or Smokychimp?

If smoky is correct, is there anyway to retroactively disapprove this job? or some action like that?

Posted by: sxm at April 29, 2008 3:52 PM

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