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November 21, 2007

window installation / LWP

Hi,
We're in the process of renovating our wood-frame "townhouse" in C. Gardens and are having a hard time finding a good window installation company who will do what we're looking for, so I'm hoping someone can help.

We're replacing two garden level aluminum (or maybe vinyl?) windows (the easy part), and adding new windows to a new addition (the more difficult part).

A large window opening was designed in the addition to hold 3, 36" wide casement windows (~6ft high). So far we've had out: Bayridge, Lucky and Windows We Are. I'm turned off Bayridge based on postings here. Windows We Are said the casements are two big to function properly and will only install a picture window surrounded by two smaller casements. When we asked if they would do 4 casements instead, they basically said no and then stopped returning calls. Lucky will do the 4 casements, but won't give us references (they give addresses, but no phone numbers).

My questions are: can anyone here recommend Lucky (and Trimline windows), and would you be willing to let me come by to see them?

Do people think that 4 casements, at 27"will also be a problem, or does this seem like a reasonable size?

I like the idea of the Trimlines, as they're wood clad and Marvin & Pella are out of our budget.

If anyone has anyone else (or other products) to recommend, I'd love some input.

Thanks!

Comments

We had LWP install the wood Trimline windows about a year ago and were very satisfied with the product and installtion. On our landmark side we had EZ-Tilt install Marvins so it's easy to compare the two products. You're welcome to take a look, post your e-mail and we can arrange. We're in PS.

Posted by: guest at November 21, 2007 9:37 AM

that's great, thanks! Email me at wafriedman@yahoo.com.

Posted by: waf at November 21, 2007 9:43 AM

We used LWP to install Trimlines and are also very pleased with the result.

Posted by: guest at November 21, 2007 2:41 PM

We had custom done on the front to match the existing windows, custom on the lower duplex in the back (gorgeous porte-fenêtres but problematic) and were able to use 1-over-1 wood windows from Anderson on the top two floors in the back. They've worked out fine.
Maybe check out the triple-glazed units that are coming out on the market. Better yet, and if possible in landmarked areas, see if you can use triple-glazed Fiberglas sash units from Canada. They are "way" more insulative. I would not suggest going with a pure custom job with an old-fashioned windowmaker as we did. He does historically accurate (read “good, slow, expensive”) work which looks great but the windows are historically freezing in winter! They are very similar to the original mid-1800's existing windows. The restoration guy who refurbished the existing windows did a decent job and was able to update them a little so they are really more like contemporary windows insulation-wise. He didn’t put in ugly sash runs either. A lot of updated windows get those ugly vinyl sash run liners because few window people want to deal with weights, etc. in the window frames.

Just make sure you avoid uglifying the windows. It happens very easily even with the best intentions. Make sure you can have a close look at example windows before you agree to have any custom sizes ordered.

Good luck!

FG/TGL

Posted by: guest at November 21, 2007 3:00 PM

Thanks for the info. Guest (3:00pm), who did you use to update your existing windows. Ours also need some work and I really don't want to (and can't afford to, after what this project has ballooned into!) replace them. The only new windows we are putting in are in the back (new construction) and the 2 front in the garden unit, which already had replacement windows.

I'm totally confused about how to keep things from getting ugly. This is a frame house with cedar siding, and white window trim. But I don't like the idea of putting white aluminum windows in the garden, because I think white (non wood) is really ugly, and if we ever replace the other front windows I don't want to be stuck doing them all in white. But a dark color is going to clash with the painted white wood trim (the siding is a sage green). Any suggestions anyone?

The back is starting fresh, and is not wood, so I don't mind dark aluminum clad wood windows.

Posted by: waf at November 21, 2007 4:55 PM

i would seriously think twice before
using trimline. what i have seen has not been
great.

Posted by: guest at November 21, 2007 10:24 PM

We just had LWP install all windows in our 4 family and are pleased. I would recommend asking for Freddy specifically as your guy to come give you the quote and insist it be in the contract that he install them (with another guy). He is wonderful and fair. There were a couple scratches and they are replacing those. You are welcome to come see them - we are in Bed-stuy on halsey (between nostrand and marcy) leave your email if you want to come see. The only thing that made me mad was that they said they would be 6-8 weeks out when I first called but by the time I got the estimate it was 10-12. All the best,

Posted by: guest at November 25, 2007 11:49 AM

guest at November 21, 2007 10:24 PM, can you be more specific? Were you looking into them too? Where/what did you see that turned you off?

Quest (11:49), I would love to see them. You can email me at wafriedman@yahoo.com. BTW, did they give you references? It seems a little odd to me that they don't give names/numbers, only addresses.

Posted by: waf at November 26, 2007 11:08 PM

I am debating between TrimLine and Marvin in a non-historic brownstone. The price is about the same. Does anyone have experience with both? I am mainly interested in reducing drafts and insulating the space. thanks.
cmt

Posted by: guest at June 16, 2008 11:22 AM

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