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August 7, 2007

A must read for those in the process of buying

Big-ticket mortgage rates rise
The cost of financing an expensive home purchase is jumping, making high-end buyers the latest victims of the mortgage meltdown.
By Les Christie, CNNMoney.com staff writer
August 7 2007: 11:17 AM EDT


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Don't look now but the cost of financing a home purchase in some of the nation's priciest areas just got more expensive.
Wells Fargo, one of the nation's biggest mortgage lenders, raised the interest rates on it 30-year, fixed-rate, non-conforming (AKA jumbo) loan to 8 percent last week, up from 6.875 percent. Other lenders followed suit and more are likely to join them.
The rate jump means the monthly bill for a $600,000 mortgage would hit $4,403, compared to $3,942 previously, an increase of $461.

Jumbos are loans of more than $417,000, the limit observed by Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, the government sponsored enterprises (GSEs) that buy loans in the secondary markets. Freddie and Fannie don't buy loans above that cap.
Wells Fargo's timing may seem odd: 30-year, fixed-rate mortgages have come off their highs for the year; their benchmark 10-year treasury has fallen considerably in the past few weeks to 4.69 percent from 5.2 percent, with further drops expected. And the Federal Reserve, which meets on Tuesday, has shown no inclination to raise its key rate.
Even borrowers with shakier credit scores than many jumbo loan applicants can qualify for a prime loan at about 6.75 percent, only 0.25 or 0.30 percent above what more qualified borrowers get, according to Keith Gumbinger, of HSH Associates, a mortgage information publisher.
But jumbo borrowers are paying a point and a half more than those who receive a conforming loan. That's way up from the traditional premium spread of about a half to three/quarters of a point.
Why should jumbos, whose borrowers often boast high incomes and assets, cost more than conforming loans? It's because Wall Street has stopped buying the loans.
Conforming mortgages, or loans below $417,000, carry much lower risk, because Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae guarantee a market for them. In a tighter credit market, lenders are charging more for jumbos because of the extra risk of not being able to sell them to the investment community.
Allen Hardester, a mortgage broker in Maryland, said that jumbos have lost their appeal for investors. "[Lenders] are having trouble unloading even prime, fully documented, 20 percent down jumbos. Nobody has any faith in real estate," he said.
George Hanzimanolis, president of the National Association of Mortgage Brokers, said, "Wall Street is just so shaky right now that any kind of mortgage-backed anything is a concern."
The implications for high-priced markets may be serious. On a wider scale, jumbos account for 16 percent of the overall mortgage market, according to Inside Mortgage Finance, which provides news and stats to the mortgage industry.
On an individual level, it can push potential buyers out of a market, because they generally care less about a property's price than their final monthly mortgage costs.
A buyer with a budget of $4,000 a month may be able to afford a $600,000 mortgage at 6.875 percent, but with jumbos up to 8 percent, a buyer with the same budget can only afford a $545,000 mortgage. To make up for the increased interest rate, a home seller would have to knock off nearly 10 percent from a selling price.
In many places, rate hikes for jumbo loans matter little, because most house prices fall well below the limits set by the GSEs. The median house price in the United States still stands at about $220,000.
Factoring in a 20 percent down payment, a home would have to cost more than $521,250 to trigger the higher interest rates of a jumbo loan.
But in some housing markets, such as most of California, much higher home prices prevail, pushing the majority of purchases into jumbo territory, according to mortgage broker Steve Habetz of Threshold Finance in Connecticut.
Buyers have to pay an extra premium, above already outsized home prices, to get a mortgage in the Bay Area, Silicon Valley, Los Angeles and many other California areas. The same holds true for the New York region, Boston, Washington D.C., parts of Florida and other high-priced markets.
"There are hot spots like that all over the country," Habetz said, "where there's a potential for a real meltdown."
The drying up of investment capital for jumbos is part ofa widespread liquidity squeeze. According to Gumbinger, a lot of the secondary market -the investors who buy securitized loans from lenders - has put itself on hold.
"They're saying, 'I'm not going to buy any more paper until I know what I have to know,'" he said.
As far as non-conforming loans are concerned, "We are seeing essentially a frozen market," said Jay Brinkman, the Mortgage Bankers Association vice president for research and economics. "When lenders can't get a bid even on the AAA loans, it's a market that has ceased to function."
A whole class of borrowers, subprime home buyers, has already been virtually eliminated from the home-buying universe. If jumbo buyers also face much higher interest rates, many will postpone home buying plans. And that can only add to the pain of slumping or stagnant markets.


Comments

Lies! All Lies! You are just upset that you can't be rich like the rest of us, and are trying to put off new couples starting out on the ladder to wealth. The NYC market is insulated! Everyone buying 500k+ apartments has stellar income, savings, docs and credit! just mention new york to your mortgage broker and get the party like its 2005 prime rate, none of this 7 or 8% nonsense the rest of the country is getting!

I insist Mr B removes this post, it is damaging to my economy. Only today I told a nervous buyer they should increase their bid.

-- A worried broker.

Posted by: Anonymous at August 7, 2007 12:03 PM

just got 3m for 6.75%

Posted by: anonymous at August 7, 2007 12:47 PM

just got 3mm for 6.75%

Posted by: anonymous at August 7, 2007 12:47 PM

1.3 m for 6.65 here....

Posted by: Anonymous at August 7, 2007 1:29 PM

1.0m for 6.5%

Posted by: Anonymous at August 7, 2007 1:33 PM

Could you please relay the information of the fabulous lenders that gave you those rates?


-A guy with good credit

Posted by: Anonymous at August 7, 2007 1:50 PM

12:47 here. Merrill.

Posted by: anonymous at August 7, 2007 2:09 PM

I'm 1:33. Chase.

Posted by: Anonymous at August 7, 2007 2:43 PM

You lucky bastards!
Why, when I was closing back in '84 the rates were 14% plus and Reagan was President!
Where's your sense of adventure?

Posted by: tom at August 7, 2007 3:05 PM

I have excellent credit but I am worried because all the indicators are pointing up. I can not close yet because we are waiting for the CFO. Can you really get numbers at 6.75 / 6.5 even though the NYTIMES states Jumbo's are at 7+?

Posted by: scared at August 7, 2007 4:00 PM

The source of the quote about Wells Fargo’s rates was *not* Wells Fargo, but Manhattan Mortgage Co (a broker). Wells Fargo Private Mortgage Banking sent me a rate sheet today quoting 6.875% for a jumbo coop, condo or 1-4 family loan.

Posted by: Sandy Mattingly at August 7, 2007 4:25 PM

The hedge funds are trying to break everything.

Posted by: anonymous at August 7, 2007 6:10 PM

I came back from citibank today, and the mortgage guy there had raised his eyebrows at the new spread between jumbos and conforming that showed on his screen (i asked him explicitly what the savings were if I stayed below jumbo).

If you go over $417k you can expect a jump in rate of at least 0.50%, normally it is a few points or slightly stricter docs.

Posted by: Anonymous at August 7, 2007 6:42 PM

I just applied for a 30 year jumbo loan. I was quoted 6.625 last Friday, and on Monday it was up to 6.825. I stuck with this new rate cos I think it's going to get worse.

Posted by: PL at August 9, 2007 2:42 PM

I just got 6.75% yesterday (locked for 75 days and no points!!!) on a jumbo loan. I used a mortgage broker too - Hymie at Trachtman and Bach. He's right down the street from me which is very convenient. The # is 718-623-1400.

Posted by: guest at August 17, 2007 1:50 PM

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