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January 16, 2007
full gut renovation
just curious to know if anyone has done a full gut renovation of a fort greene brownstone recently. the home next to ours has been abandoned for years and years and would need to be completely re-done. the only thing that could survive would be the facade. so if anyone knows how generally how much it would be to restore to a 3 story with a garden rental unit, it would be most appreciative.
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$300 per sf.
Posted by: anon at January 16, 2007 4:47 PM
I agree, $300 sq/ft. Anyone tell you otherwise doesn't have a clue
Posted by: Anonymous at January 16, 2007 5:29 PM
by your calculations it would cost 300,00 per floor to renovate a brownstone. That's insane. we did a gut reno of our garden level plus all new plumbing for the whole house for 200,000.
Posted by: Anonymous at January 16, 2007 5:45 PM
300sf is a ridiculous base estimate. You can do it for as little as 100k or as high as the sky, it all depends on what you put into it. I'd estimate between 150-250k at a minimum, for average work. For anything additonal, central air, radiant heating, custom woodwork or kitchen cabinets, etc..figure more. I've done numerous 2-4 floor full reno's for the above price.
Posted by: anon at January 16, 2007 5:48 PM
OP said only the front facade stays. You can't gut renovate a previously abandoned building for as little as 100k as 5:48 states. That is simply not realistic for a total gut renovation despite claims of having done numerous ones. Perhaps your definition of a gut renovation is different from mine.
$300 per sf is not insane.
Could you do it for less...probably if you make the right choices and if you are able to re-use some parts of the building like the stairs and windows.
Could you do it for less than $200 per sf. Not in my opinion.
Posted by: Anonymous at January 16, 2007 6:36 PM
The OP asked about a GUT RENOVATION. 300 a square foot is conservative. This isnt painting, sanding floors and getting new fixtures. This is major construction with completely new elec and plumbing, plus all new floors, walls, ceilings, windows etc....
Posted by: tom at January 16, 2007 6:37 PM
Odd that new construction is 150-200?
These estimates must be all for high-end stuff (read the reno blogs to see what's considered normal.)
Posted by: anon at January 16, 2007 7:05 PM
Ah, anon 5:45, your gut reno is not a gut reno.
Your gut reno was a walk in the park
Posted by: Anonymous at January 17, 2007 9:11 AM
a gut renovation, or any renovation for that matter, is always more than new construction. theat cost is high due to unforseen conditions as well as needing to replicate or in many cases limits your choices of materials that are no longer in use by today's construction standards. we are not even talking about historic preservation! which can be even higher!
Posted by: Anonymous at January 17, 2007 10:56 AM
Does anybody read the original post? They stated full gut renovation. Only the facade will be preserved. How can you do that for $100,000?
Posted by: Anonymous at January 17, 2007 8:27 PM
a gut reno can be less than
a restoration. 100k/floor
should be doable, with using
simple materials.
Posted by: OE at January 17, 2007 9:05 PM
Look, it can really vary alot. I wouldn't be suprised at 300 per square foot for a better quality renovation. On the flip side, I know someone who hired someone to do it for about 40 - but it has to be the s***iest thing I've ever seen in my life. Seriously. Everything is new, but the before probably looked better than the after.
To put it in perspective, I figure that I've spent around 50 per square foot on mine - in materials. If I had to hire someone to do everything, I would probably wind up spending more than I paid for the house.
Posted by: Anonymous at January 19, 2007 11:11 AM
I see that many peoplehave different estimate figures. The thing is all of you are right. Each property has to be taken into account on its own accord. Each property has its own specific things that it needs done to it. So yes, many things matter, from type and quality of materials, and whether or not an actual GC is doing the job, or a person is privately trying to tackle the job. Figures for new construction are $150 sq ft but thats on the low end, assuming economy grade materials, and construction. An average gut rehab is approx $150 sq ft, and sky is the limit. I am a local general contractor in Brooklyn. Please give me a call if you have any questions. 718-408-0812.
Posted by: Al at May 17, 2007 10:46 AM
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