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December 20, 2005

How will I stop worrying and learn to love Landmarks'?

I know this isn't the type of blog where I am supposed to bitch about how I am feeling, but I am going to anyway. I am frustrated by an email I got from Landmarks' this evening. The email and my response are below:

Shahn,
The staff reviewed the project last Thursday in prep for the Jan. 10th public hearing. The general feeling was that the design (bulk, size in relation to the historic house, height) is something that the commissioners might not approve of; and that if this does go to a hearing on the 10th, we'll need the drawings you and I spoke of / emailed about, soon. My director has suggested that we schedule a meeting to go over design issues before the 10th. I'd hate to see this go before the commissioners just to be rejected and then have to go back a second time. Generally, our goal is to get the kinks worked out of a design before it even reaches the commissioners, to lessen the chances of rejection. Try to come up with some dates you and your architect can come in so we can go over what we have so far and what if anything can be tweaked. I’m in this week so far – carpooling- but I think a meeting during the period of the strike is probably not going to happen as you, and others of our staff who need to attend, might have problems making it in. Let’s look at doing something next week, if possible.

- Nice Lady From Landmarks'

Nice Lady From Landmarks',
I hope to get those other drawings to you in the next couple of days. My architect is sometimes slow and often doesn't get the drawings right the first time (or the third for that matter).

I am apprehensive about meeting with the committee as it sounds to me that my desires for this house will be opposed from the outset simply because I want to change a 3500 square foot house into a 5500 square foot one. I had hoped that they would be as excited as I am about the restoration of the historical character of this house. Is it generally their knee-jerk reaction to downsize projects even though they are significantly below the as-of-right buildable floor area ratio? I am hoping the committee will see this design as being complementary to the original building since the existing building will remain intact and the majority of changes are to the rear. The plans call for three sides of the building to be restored as closely as possible to the original condition and the new parts to tie seamlessly into it. It has been my understanding that Landmarks' main goal is to keep historic buildings intact, and I had hoped that they would feel that this design does that.

Are there any particular changes to the design that might help get them through the committee? Does the fact that the expansion in no way detracts from the historical building hold any weight with them? The height of the extension will be the same as the existing house, and will not be visible from the street. The bulk is smaller than the existing building and the size difference will only be noticible from one side, and then only when you are on the property or nearly on it. I want to try and make plans that the committe will approve, but there is an economy of scale when doing a renovating of this magnitude and the additional size helps justify the cost. More importantly, this is my home and I have put a lot of thought into coming up with a design that will accomodate me now and fifty years from now.

-Shahn Christian Andersen
"So let it be written, so let it be done"

Posted by shahnandersen at December 20, 2005 11:28 PM

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Good luck, neighbor! I have passed this house so many times in the past and wondered when it would be torn down- it looked like a lost cause. One would imagine that the dread Landmarks Commission would be particularly flexible in your case; they should be thankful that the house will be restored at all.
Our dealings with Landmarks were frustrating as well; many of their decisions seemed ill-informed and arbitrary. Keep your eye on the prize - one day it'll all be behind you and your house will be one of the most spectacular in the whole nabe!

Posted by: houseowax at December 23, 2005 09:03 AM

Whats your lot size? 5500 sq ft sounds like alot of building. I know you've been through the clarification about FAR and what not. But with a 22x100 lot, i imagine that they would limit you to 5346 sq ft(2.43 FAR). 5500 puts your FAR at 2.5. Economies of scale aside, why risk the whole project for an exta 150 sq ft? If someone doesnt want this project done, exceeding FAR is the easiest objection to make. Rather than defend your aesthic plans, you will be on the defensive defending your need for an additional 150 sq ft.

Posted by: iac at December 23, 2005 03:57 PM

The lot is 50x100 in an R6 Zone.

Posted by: Shahn Andersen at December 23, 2005 11:17 PM

i drove thru the nabe this weekend and saw your house. good luck. i hope you get by the committee.

Posted by: ltjbukem at December 26, 2005 10:49 PM

my initial thought is keep the zoning issue separate from LPC issues. in order to pass muster with how much you can build, how much FAR you have etc, you have to get all this sorted out with DOB as they, not LCP, have the final say in this matter. once you know what your zoning limitations are and have gotten reconsiderations from the DOB commissioner, then the design aesthetics go into play. overall, building an extension to an existing house is a very complex matter that will require input and approval from various agencies.

also i found it extremely useful during my LPC process to actually attend the meetings with the staff, listen to their questions and use their knowledge to brainstorm ideas. i wasn't crazy about my architect and found that he was missing way too many questions after he came back from his LPC meetings, so that's how i became more involved. though i managed to avoid the public hearing by complying with their established guidelines, i did hear that LPC likes it when owners go before them to pitch their ideas as personal involvement is a sign of commitment

Posted by: jmc at December 27, 2005 12:45 PM

I say you revise the plans to tear down the entire house and build condos with electricity and gas meters in the front of the house. When they object, propose downsizing your project to a simple extension to make the current house 5500 square feet. It seems like that's the way they like to work. Freaking idiots.

If you hadn't already filed with them, I would encourage you to proceed without talking to them and then beg foregiveness -- what are they going to do, send you to jail??? Fine you (their fine is probably not going to be any larger then your architect/contractor bill from trying to do it the right way).

I am usually for doing things by the book, but this kind of bullshit makes me really angry. They should be providing you with a tax incentive to fix this place up.

Posted by: Anon at December 28, 2005 02:06 PM

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