House of the Day: 229 Baltic Street

This townhouse at 229 Baltic Street in Cobble Hill just hit the market and it's a doozy. The good news is that it's a gorgeous place—lots of original detail and recently the subject of a top-notch renovation. The bad news? The asking price is $4,200,000, definitely at the high end of the range for something to the south of Atlantic Avenue. (Heck, it's even quite a bit of dough in Brooklyn Heights these days.) Still, for some lucky bonus recipient looking for a beautiful house to move right into, this might just be the ticket.
229 Baltic Street [Brown Harris Stevens] GMAP P*Shark
68 Comments
By CGar on February 2, 2010 1:18 PM
By 11217 on February 2, 2010 1:20 PM
Not only do I love the house, but I also love the decor (which I know doesn't really matter). A lot of times these places just look so generic, but you can tell the owners of this house hand selected (or had an interior designer) hand select really beautiful pieces for this house in particular. It comes across as really inviting and unique.
Has anyone been to Holler and Squall on Atantic...speaking of beautiful pieces...
That place ROCKS.
http://hollerandsquall.blogspot.com/
By CGar on February 2, 2010 1:20 PM
Just noticed it's a Brown Harris Stevens listing, just like the house on Amity. Now the overpricing makes perfect sense. Typical BHS.
By CGar on February 2, 2010 1:24 PM
11217, my issue with pricing aside, I do totally agree with you about the interiors (though I'd like to see more of the kitchen and some baths) and the decor.
By BlueHills on February 2, 2010 1:25 PM
24 feet wide, very very nice
By Nokilissa on February 2, 2010 1:30 PM
Swoon. I was SOOOOOO hoping Mister B would post this as HOTD this week. He did not disappoint.
We saw this on Sunday. Sigh.
By CGar on February 2, 2010 1:30 PM
11217, where exactly is Holler and Squall? The ad says 71 Atlantic which means it should be directly across the street from me, but I've never noticed it. Is it new??
By CGar on February 2, 2010 1:33 PM
"We saw this on Sunday. Sigh."
You're not buying, I gather? We could be neighbors if you did!!
By gemini10 on February 2, 2010 1:36 PM
WOWOWOWOW!
now I loveee this place - I wish I had 4 million!
anyway - where are the pics of the kitchen???
that's always my selling point
but seriously this place looks gorgeous and HUGE!
By 11217 on February 2, 2010 1:37 PM
Cgar,
It's right past Hicks on the North side of Atlantic. They're only open Thursday-Sunday, but the couple who run the place have absolutely incredible taste and it's VERY well priced. They clearly do really well, cause the stock turns over fast.
Really you should check it out. I'd say its one of the best antique/vintage stores in the city.
By Nokilissa on February 2, 2010 1:40 PM
Welllll, it is just about wonderful in every way. Just about.
The kitchen and master bath were not completed along with the recent reno and will probably cost a cool 125k - maybe less - to finish (plans are included by a local and swanky architect). That combined with a price tag we thought easily 8 hundy over, AND our needing to get off the damned fence about listing our place again at God only knows what... you get the picture.
By Pigeon on February 2, 2010 1:42 PM
What color is the brick facade painted?
Lilac?
And the brownstone trim is painted, too?!
Painted white?!
Sheesh!
For 4.2M you think they'd strip the paint off for you.
Then it would look like the lovely neighboring buildings.
Or, is the paint hiding exterior cosmetic defects?
By Expert Textpert on February 2, 2010 1:43 PM
Here i come to nitpick.
For $4 million dollars and all you get in the kitchen is a 7' counter, a free standing range (the hood seems a bit low) and a refrigerator in the pantry!!
Also, the bathroom on the 3rd floor is odd. No sink in the room with the toilet??? You gotta do your business on the bowl, and then OPEN the door and go into the other side of the bathroom to wash your hands. Two bathrooms (one private for the master bedroom) would have been ideal.
Otherwise, it's a beautiful house.
By wasder on February 2, 2010 1:43 PM
4 million is a lot of clams!
By Petebklyn on February 2, 2010 1:47 PM
$4.2 or $3.3 (widget) - -either way I can't afford it.
But it will be nice prize for somebody to have a Baltic Street address.
By CGar on February 2, 2010 1:47 PM
Noki, I'm always suspicious when there are NO bathroom pics and only 1 shot of the stove. And, since the garden is a main reason I'd buy another house, please post a garden pic. As for pricing, I totally agree - my widget price is $3.2 million, which still may be high given what you said about the kitchen and baths. Also, I'm not loving the facade - I'd prefer the originally, non-painted brick. And are the windows new - for $4.2 million, give me some nice wood Anderson or Marvin windows with real mullions. Don't get me wrong - I think the interior of the house (or what we can see of it) is absolutely beautiful.
By Nokilissa on February 2, 2010 1:48 PM
Pigeon and ExTex nailed it. The curb appeal is non-existent and the master bathroom and kitchen need serious work.
But other than that, the home is frickin' beautiful. We especially loved the top floor with its open family space, a sunlight spilling in light, and the choices in trim, paint, carpet, doors, etc.
You really feel the width of this house in its' rooms.
Oh, it also has 4 wbf's and central air.
By bkbornandbred on February 2, 2010 1:48 PM
11217...
Wow. Even a roach-topped dumpling would taste good eaten at that custom dining table from Holler and Squall. Place looks impeccably curated. Thanks for posting.
By Expert Textpert on February 2, 2010 1:50 PM
"The kitchen and master bath were not completed along with the recent reno"
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Sorry, I can't help but laugh. That's kinda ballsy listing it for $4 million smackaroos and it needed a new kitchen and bath.
By Nokilissa on February 2, 2010 1:52 PM
It isn't 4 million, Ex. It is 4 point TWO million.
Just sayin'.
By Nokilissa on February 2, 2010 1:53 PM
Sorry. A 'roach-topped dumpling'?
I'll go take a peek.
By Expert Textpert on February 2, 2010 1:54 PM
oh and in a $4 million dollar house, you don't (or shouldn't) put in a 20K Home Depot kitchen.
At least 80K for the kitchen. You got an expensive house, live in style.
By Nokilissa on February 2, 2010 1:55 PM
'a sunlight spilling in light' = a SKYlight...
By Nokilissa on February 2, 2010 1:57 PM
I know Ex. That's why I figure it'll cost at least 100k, probably 125k, to finish the kitchen and master bath. They do thrown in the plans for it. It includes bumping out the back wall a bit to accommodate an expanded kitchen.
By CGar on February 2, 2010 2:02 PM
"They do thrown in the plans for it. It includes bumping out the back wall a bit to accommodate an expanded kitchen."
I'm sorry, but for a house ASKING $4.2 MILLION, the kitchen should already be bumped out and redone, and so should the baths. That's what makes a house a $4.2 million house!!
By Expert Textpert on February 2, 2010 2:09 PM
"It includes bumping out the back wall a bit to accommodate an expanded kitchen."
Then add 50K to your number.
Are they also bumping the garden floor wall and doing a foundation to support the 'bumped out wall or are they going to do a rear overhang?
"They do thrown in the plans for it."
Unless, you like they architect they used and the proposed layouts. The plans are useless.
By Nokilissa on February 2, 2010 2:11 PM
I AGREE with you CGAR! Sheesh. This is why we walked out scratching our heads a bit per the price tag. Thought it was conservatively 800k overpriced.
I guess the nearest comp is the place also on Baltic, on the next block, asking 3.8 something. On the market for nearly a year now. Also the Kane Street place that just sold for 3.2 or 3.3, also 25 feet wide and quite beautiful. (and finished btw). It wasn't our taste, but it could have BECOME our taste for a lot less than 100k. It suffered over a million dollar in price chops.
By Pigeon on February 2, 2010 2:11 PM
If I had 4.2 million dollars, I'd buy two brownstones.
One for me and one for BHO.
By Nokilissa on February 2, 2010 2:13 PM
Ex, I think it was just a rear overhang - a bumped out window. Don't know what that is called, as it isn't a bay.
By CGar on February 2, 2010 2:16 PM
Noki, when I put $3.2 million on the widget, I was thinking of the Kane Street house that finally sold. But, as you note, Kane Street is completely refinished - the buyers do not have to gut the kitchen (and build an addition no less) and the baths. So, now I think $3.2 million is too high by at least $200k.
Mr. B?! Mr. B?! I want to retract my widget bid, please!!
By 11217 on February 2, 2010 2:18 PM
And Pigeon, if I had 4.2 million I'd buy one for me and DH to share and one for Miss Muffet.
By Expert Textpert on February 2, 2010 2:18 PM
"I think it was just a rear overhang - a bumped out window."
Huh? did it add more sq. footage to the kitchen? Otherwise, why bother.
Assuming one is going to put counters along the back wall, a bumped out window will just be a dirt collector. The sill won't get cleaned that often as it'll be hard to reach, unless you climb on the counter.
By Petebklyn on February 2, 2010 2:18 PM
obvious then that Baltic St. is more prestigious sounding address. And nobody is poking holes in sides of house adding windows like on Amity.
By Brokedeveloper on February 2, 2010 2:51 PM
Baltic Avenue was one of the cheapest properties on Monopoly. Its only good if you also own Mediterranean and have the cash to put up two gleaming red hotels.
By 11217 on February 2, 2010 3:00 PM
For 4.2 million, I'll take this one. Thank you.
http://www.corcoran.com/property/listing.aspx?Region=NYC&ListingID=1883868&ohDat=
By feral on February 2, 2010 3:05 PM
Wow, this place is enormous. It would be *perfect* for a family that really doesn't like one another.
By Boerumresident on February 2, 2010 3:05 PM
What other place on Baltic for $3.8?
By Nokilissa on February 2, 2010 3:07 PM
Oh my god, one one, I LOVE that home. Been watching that for awhile.
Boerum, I'll try to find it now...
By Nokilissa on February 2, 2010 3:09 PM
Here is the other Baltic Street listing:
http://www.prudentialelliman.com/Listings.aspx?ListingID=958062
By daveinbedstuy on February 2, 2010 3:15 PM
The place in bad shape on St. Mark's would look as nice, maybe even better than the Berkeley Place one if it were done. Listed around $800k I believe and it wouldn't take more than $400k yo get it there!!!!!
By 11217 on February 2, 2010 3:16 PM
Noki...
You should buy it so we can be neighbors. :)
Love it too. If you compare the two, it seems more than obvious which is the 4.2 million dollar home and which is probably closer to a 3 million dollar home.
Not that I think Berkeley Place is gunna get that price, but at least that one is a certified mansion and to me seems worth that price a heck of a lot more than the Baltic Street home.
By Expert Textpert on February 2, 2010 3:19 PM
OMG, the Berkley house is STUNNING! This house just got downgraded to 'blah'
By 11217 on February 2, 2010 3:21 PM
Dave,
I know you loved that St. Marks house, but I never really got the appeal. Judging from the listing history, I'm not the only one:
06/12/2008
Listed by Manhattan Modern Management at $1,500,000.
10/21/2008
Price decreased by 7% to $1,400,000.
12/02/2008
Price decreased by 14% to $1,200,000.
04/16/2009
Price decreased by 25% to $899,000.
07/24/2009
Listing is no longer available.
10/26/2009
Re-listed by Manhattan Modern Management .
By Nokilissa on February 2, 2010 3:22 PM
DIBS, which place is this? I'm a bit of a fan of St. Mark's on most of its' stretches...
One one, I could have you over for beers and BBQ in the backyard! Or we could simply sit and sip mint juleps in the foyer and gaze at the woodwork.
By CGar on February 2, 2010 3:24 PM
DIBS, is the St. Mark's house the one we saw in CHN on the walking tour???
By 11217 on February 2, 2010 3:24 PM
Noki,
I was literally just sitting here STARING at the photos of Berkeley Place. It's one of my favorite houses in the neighborhood.
The woodwork is drool worthy.
By BKLandlord on February 2, 2010 3:35 PM
What I find so staggering about the asking price is that the house isn't that deep. Really to get up into the high 3's low 4's, you have to have at least 50 ft. depth on all levels. Yesterday's house of the day is about 50ft away from this property and asking 2 million. I can't imagine the finishes on this one are worth the extra 2.4mil...
By Petebklyn on February 2, 2010 3:40 PM
are you saying yesterday's is a real steal?
By CHMomma on February 2, 2010 3:41 PM
Does anyone have approximately $3.5M that I can borrow?
By CGar on February 2, 2010 3:41 PM
I always wonder why people would put so much into renovating and decorating a house in 2006, only to sell it a few years later?
By daveinbedstuy on February 2, 2010 3:45 PM
11217, you were probably never inside it. The amount of mahaogany throughout is astounding.
Yes, CGar, the one that was on the CHN tour.
By DeadCatBounce on February 2, 2010 3:49 PM
Berkeley Place is stunning. Ill need the stock market to a little higher, and the housing market to go down a little to do that one for cash.
The St Marks house is a gem, too bad its in Crown Heights.
By Petebklyn on February 2, 2010 3:52 PM
ha, I found their wedding announcement in NYTimes!
12 years ago. Maybe a divorce, or kid didn't get into private school of choice so decided to move to ritzy suburb with good public.
By CGar on February 2, 2010 3:54 PM
11217, unless you've been inside the St. Mark's Place house, you've NEVER seen anything like it. Woodwork like I've never seen before, and you can't even begin to imagine. An enormous amount of space - so much I couldn't even imagine how I'd use it all. Beautiful details everywhere, from marble sinks with carved mirrors in bedroom alcoves to original stained glass windows and coiffured ceilings, all of which have miraculously survived the house being carved up. The reason for the listing history is that it needs a ton of work, and it was priced ridiculously to begin with. Montrose posted a while back that there were supposedly 3 competing bids on the house, but I'm not sure what happened.
By Boerumresident on February 2, 2010 3:58 PM
Noki -- that's a nice house, although I am not a big fan of the top floor apt. I'd really rather take that than the one listed here today. And here I thought I had seen everything from Kane on up to Atlantic.
Plus, I actually like the idea of being across from the school yard for the extra light. (I am assuming it's on the northside, but there might be some 25' wide house on the south side too).
By CGar on February 2, 2010 4:01 PM
I'd say divorce is the best bet, Pete. There has to be a good reason to put all that work into a house, have plans to do the kitchen and baths, and then up and sell the place.
By 11217 on February 2, 2010 4:03 PM
"there were supposedly 3 competing bids on the house, but I'm not sure what happened."
Sounds like "supposedly" was the key word there.
I believe you that it's a beauty on the inside, I just don't find the outside appealing at all. To me, Berkeley Place house steals the show on all fronts.
By CGar on February 2, 2010 4:06 PM
Berkeley Place is a beautiful house, no question. But part of me is very tempted to try and buy and restore the St. Mark's Place house. Berkeley Place, on the other hand, is beyond my budget, so it's not an option.
By Expert Textpert on February 2, 2010 4:07 PM
Why can't I remember the Crown Height house that's being referenced??
By Minard Lafever on February 2, 2010 4:12 PM
Lovely house. If they get anywhere near ask it will be the highest price by far of any house on Baltic Street, Brooklyn, or for that matter any Baltic Street anywhere, or possibly even anywhere in the actual Baltics.
By 11217 on February 2, 2010 4:12 PM
This is the one Expert:
http://www.mmmgmt.com/brokerwebsite3/code/buildingsale_detail.asp?listing_id=21450TH,27087TH,26617TH,&index=1
By CGar on February 2, 2010 4:13 PM
859 St. Marks Avenue, Crown Heights North
StreetEasy:
http://streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/290925-townhouse-859-saint-marks-avenue-crown-heights-brooklyn
Broker's Site:
http://www.mmmgmt.com/brokerwebsite3/code/buildingsale_detail.asp?listing_id=21450TH,27087TH,26617TH,&index=1
By Expert Textpert on February 2, 2010 4:22 PM
Thanks guys.
That one! I saw it. It's gorgeous, but needs a ton of work.
CGar, if you buy it, I get the parlor & first floors, you can have the top two floors.
By crank on February 2, 2010 4:23 PM
the Berkeley Pl house is great...if you want a skyscraper in your back yard.
By CGar on February 2, 2010 4:28 PM
Not a chance I'd give up the Parlor Floor, ET, but nice try.
By Expert Textpert on February 2, 2010 4:36 PM
But CGar, it's a huge house! What will you do with all the space?
I should get the parlor floor. I'm good at polishing wood.
By 11217 on February 2, 2010 4:38 PM
39 Plaza Street West is HARDLY a skyscraper, crank.
Brooklynites are funny.
And by funny, I mean odd.
By more4less on February 2, 2010 4:38 PM
TextperV, if I get it, you can have the 1st 2 flrs, I'll take the top 3
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And like the house on Amity originally priced at $4 million, this will sit and sit and sit. Unless Mr. B is right and it's snatched up by bonus money.