Newsletter |
« Open House Picks: Six Months Later StreetLevel: Yona Lee Vintage on 5th Ave is Open »
65

Open House Picks

Categories: Open Houses

houseSouth Slope
305 12th Street
Corcoran
Sunday 2:30-4
$1,299,000
GMAP P*Shark

houseWindsor Terrace
33 East 2nd Street
Halperin Real Estate
Sunday 1-3
$825,000
GMAP P*Shark

houseProspect Lefferts Gardens
83 Lefferts Avenue
Brown Harris Stevens
Sunday 2:30-4
$799,000
GMAP P*Shark

houseBedford Stuyvesant
786 Putnam Avenue
Douglas Elliman
Sunday 3-4:30
$799,000
GMAP P*Shark



By Brownstoner at January 8, 2010 1:05 PM | Comments (65)

65 Comments

By Expert Textpert on January 8, 2010 1:11 PM

Link for '33 East 2nd Street' goes to 83 Lefferts Avenue.

By Expert Textpert on January 8, 2010 1:12 PM

Arrrgh, the link for '786 Putnam Avenue' ALSO goes to 83 Lefferts Ave.

By 11217 on January 8, 2010 1:12 PM

Bed Stuy house goes to 83 Lefferts too...

By BrooklynIsHome on January 8, 2010 1:13 PM

Link for Putnam Avenue house goes to same link.

By CGar on January 8, 2010 1:14 PM

What everyone else said ^^^^

I like the 12th Street house. One of my new favorite areas. (I like the Lefferts Street house, too, but I'm just not looking there.)

By gemini10 on January 8, 2010 1:18 PM

12th street house is VERY cute - that'a a nice friendly block
now remember though - 12th between 6th and 7th is wacky b/c you have the bad news bear gang that hangs out at the top 7th avenue

By 11217 on January 8, 2010 1:19 PM

That 12th Street house is very nice, I think.

Love the tin ceilings.

And that area rocks.

By CGar on January 8, 2010 1:22 PM

"the bad news bear gang that hangs out at the top 7th avenue"

Please enlighten me G10. I'm clueless. (Seriously.)

By 11217 on January 8, 2010 1:23 PM

That 12th Street house is between 5th and 6th, Gem.

By gemini10 on January 8, 2010 1:28 PM

Cgar:
I used to live over there on 7th and 14th. There is a "gang" ( I say that lightly) of kids ranging in ages from 8-18 of all diff races. These kids aren't your typical PS kid, they are much more "street". They hang out/ and play ball/jump in the fire hydrant/yell and act like kids - I am not saying they are bad kids but they like to have fun and no one really says anything to them. They are known to throw the ball a bit too hard into passerbys though

By mopar on January 8, 2010 1:29 PM

Well, they've certainly turned that 12th St. house into a showroom (for Home Depot). Look at that drywall and chandelier!

By 11217 on January 8, 2010 1:31 PM

"7th and 14th"


Do they call themselves the Union Market gang...?

;)

By Butterfly on January 8, 2010 1:32 PM

those kids on that block are these kids right? lol. i wish i could have witnessed this myself

http://www.brooklynian.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=55076&sid=74407ec4d5a9310217c60c1173b894e3

*rob*

By househunt on January 8, 2010 1:34 PM

BHS's PLG house has been on the market for AGES. Went to an OH and while it's cute, the location is questionable. Right across from big apartment buildings with folks who like to hang outside, even in the cold. I guess if you want to live year round with your windows closed...

By Expert Textpert on January 8, 2010 1:36 PM

Links are all working now. I kinda liked it better when they all linked to the same house.

I got prematurely excited about the Putnam House. But when I saw the listing, my hopes were dashed. Oh, well.

By Montrose Morris on January 8, 2010 1:36 PM

If a clean, modern, totally updated house is your thing, the PLG house looks great, and priced well, too. Also has a garage.

I like those 20's semidetached cottages in PLG. They are much more spacious than one would think from looking at them from the street. I always enjoy seeing them on the PLG house tours.

By 11217 on January 8, 2010 1:42 PM

12/06/07

Zandi:

"Declines of between 5% and 15% are expected for the Northeast corridor as well as such markets as Denver, Salt Lake City and Boise, Idaho."

By 11217 on January 8, 2010 1:43 PM

Sorry, wrong thread!

By gemini10 on January 8, 2010 1:50 PM

Rob:
I doubt that was thr group as they are strictly 12th kids - however knowing them, I wouldn't be surprised if they jumped in on the action

By househunt on January 8, 2010 2:03 PM

Even without the noisy "gangs" roaming the streets, don't you all think 1.3 is a bit excessive for the 12th Street listing?!?!

By sterlingsliver on January 8, 2010 2:04 PM

I saw lefferts house a couple of years ago before it was renovated. . . from top to bottom. I think it's a fine location and a nice house, but. . ..
It's been sitting there at this price for the longest so not sure what makes anyone say it's priced right.
Also not sure why seller puts it on different websites at different prices. If you go thru one broker at $839 and another at $799, then I would call your bluff and offer like $550.
If I was the owner/flipper I'd be happy to come close to breaking even and get out of Dodge.

By slopefarm on January 8, 2010 2:08 PM

12th Street house is on a decent block. But I agere about the next block -- between 6/7. For some reason, this block has always been noisy and difficult. There are lots of S. Slope blocks where the old timers and waves of newbiers get along really well and form a real sense of community, including my block. 12 --6/7 is just not one of them. Even South Slope old timers will tell you that block has always been noisy and difficult.

By gemini10 on January 8, 2010 2:09 PM

Househunt - yes I do, I think it should be priced at 1.2mil and it will prob sell for 1.1

By Expert Textpert on January 8, 2010 2:10 PM

Am I the only one around here underwhelmed by the 12th st house? Price that baby in the mid 900's.

By slopefarm on January 8, 2010 2:11 PM

Househunt -- I've seen s. slope frames go for more, but usually the larger ones. This is 16.7 ft wide and doesn't have the extra floor on top, as far as I can tell.

By Petebklyn on January 8, 2010 2:13 PM

yeah, sounds a bit high, househunt after looking at size of house and view of street looks like lots of aluminum siding.
2 small beds and 1 large one 1 bath upstairs.
But these days I think you have to ask more because buyers are going to expect at least 10% off asking. I don't think will sell for below $1m though if that is where you are headed.

By gemini10 on January 8, 2010 2:18 PM

agreed with Pete, this def will sell above 999K. i'd say close to 1.1
dunno Expert, i kinda think it's cute except for some things I would change -light fixtures etc
but I will say that Fridge is mighty far from the actual kitchen, so much for keeping the "triangle" in play

By Lesloaf on January 8, 2010 2:21 PM

PLG house sold for $525K in 2008 and, as househunt said, has been on the market for a long time. (I've seen it in the window at Warren Lewis for at least 8 months now). Presumably, it was purchased to flip. I think $799K is unrealistic for the area.

By CGar on January 8, 2010 2:22 PM

I think for someone looking at 2 bedroom condos with outdoor space, but also considering houses, this would work. Similar price points.

By Nomi on January 8, 2010 2:31 PM

12th St. -- exposed brick NOT a "turn of the century detail"!

House looks nice, tho.

But third bedroom tiny tiny, and rental is small too. Don't know about price.

By Petebklyn on January 8, 2010 2:32 PM

you're right on the price point cgar. 1700sq ft condo would certainly cost this much. and taxes better on the house...about $100 a month.
Why they did such a big fridge and then put in middle of house...not to pretty..
The house itself is something like 16.5 x 35' plus that bump out in back where most of kitchen is.

By Expert Textpert on January 8, 2010 2:32 PM

That's just it. It's OK. Nothing special. It's a vanilla box and vanilla is my least favorite ice cream flavor.

The two smaller bedrooms are too small. There's more closet space in the rental bedroom than the bedrooms in owner's unit. The garden abuts what looks like a building with windows overlooking it. Refrigerator in the dining area. Powder room opens up onto living room. It's 17'x30' (narrow and short). Too many negatives to warrant a 1M+ price tag (for me).

Maybe I nitpick too much with properties over 1M. Give me a property over 2M, and I'll really tear it apart.

By Nomi on January 8, 2010 2:33 PM

"BHS's PLG house has been on the market for AGES." (househunt)

How do they get to say "new listing"?

By Expert Textpert on January 8, 2010 2:35 PM

"How do they get to say "new listing"?"

They're brokers. They have a license to say whatever they want.

By Nomi on January 8, 2010 2:37 PM

"It's a vanilla box and vanilla is my least favorite ice cream flavor." (Expert)

Agree with some of your design complaints, but we've seen way more "vanilla" renovations than this. There's a good attempt at integrity here, I think.

By daveinbedstuy on January 8, 2010 2:38 PM

The Bed Stuy house has been on the market for a long time as well. I don't know why it hasn't sold. I'd like to see it.

By bupe on January 8, 2010 2:39 PM

The 12th st house was for sale by a different broker a couple of years ago, same (or similar) price, and failed to move. Corcoran does a much nicer job of marketing - so this should go around ask.

"The Gangs of Park Slope" - a new film coming to a multiplex near you :)

By babs on January 8, 2010 2:47 PM

The PLG house is a new listing for the agency, and I think has finally reached a realistic price point. It was originally listed over a year ago for over $1 million -- totally nuts. I live in the neighborhood, and walk on that street very frequently, and have never really noticed a lot of hanging out activity at any of the apartment buildings across the street (one of which, 50 Lefferts Ave., is actually a very nice co-op), quite unlike the buildings on Lincoln Rd., for example. This is also utterly convenient to the Q and B trains, as well as Prospect Park, and has PARKING!

By bkny on January 8, 2010 2:50 PM

i'm not understanding the hype over the 12th street house. the fridge is in the dining area, which is so odd and it's tiny. would really make more sense laid out as a one family.

the lefferts house is nice but 'questionable' location.

bed-stuy house looks good - wonder what the hold up is on it selling?

By Expert Textpert on January 8, 2010 2:54 PM

"The Bed Stuy house has been on the market for a long time as well. I don't know why it hasn't sold."

Cause it's overpriced.
I got really excited at first when I saw it as an open house pic, cause this is my price range. For this price, should be a two family (that's what I'm looking for at this price and in this nabe or Crown Heights).
And I HATE that 'blue' paneling. Maybe I need to see it in person, but it looks like someone colored it in with crayons.
And I don't like that bathroom with that dorky little sink with the exposed plumbing. The sink is the size of my eyeball. And the shower doesn't have a door (I know it's very Euro to do that), but water will spray everywhere and leave water marks(medicine cabinet mirror). A clean freak like me will hate to see that.

I do like the wood floors and the entry paneling tho.

By mopar on January 8, 2010 2:54 PM

Bkny, you can't sell a brownstone in Bed Stuy with an en suite bath!!! No one wants that.

By daveinbedstuy on January 8, 2010 3:01 PM

mopar

:-P

By Expert Textpert on January 8, 2010 3:02 PM

"Bkny, you can't sell a brownstone in Bed Stuy with an en suite bath!!! No one wants that."

Gay men do!

By Expert Textpert on January 8, 2010 3:06 PM

And I know I'm going to get knocked for this, but I want living, dining and kitchen on one floor. I entertain a lot with lots of people and they tend to sit in living room and eat cause there's not enough room in dining area.....and can't imagine climbing stairs with trays of food.

By Amzi Hill on January 8, 2010 3:10 PM

I have been to the Putnam house and overall this is a very nice house which was designed by Amzi Hill's son Henry in the early 1890s... The blue on the garden floor is a bit strange but I think the photos makes it look worse than what it is... The only reason I think this house has not sold is that is rather close to Malcolm X and I think that is a turn off for most people... I do not think Putnam is overpriced it is move in condition. To strip that room would be under $1000.

By MrsJ3 on January 8, 2010 3:11 PM

We looked at the Lefferts house last summer. The work is thorough - it was a flip and I believe it was gutted - but it's still probably $50K above where it should be for the neighborhood and market. The yard is v. small and while there is a small garage, the driveway is tight and shared with the house next door.

By daveinbedstuy on January 8, 2010 3:17 PM

ET, despite your snotty comment above, I agree with you. My house is 50' long and I have a kitchen in the back and room for a TV room in the "back parlour." The front parlour is so damn big that there's wasted space in the front and then a sofa and chairs in front of the fireplace and still room for a formal dining table that seats six.

I agree with you on all of that. More so, I wouldn't want to be moving back and forth from one floor to the other because the kitchen is below!!!

By rh on January 8, 2010 3:26 PM

Enough with the blue! It can be stripped or repainted.

We just got back from visiting the mother in law in Ireland. Talk about open showers being all the rage over there. Yup, everybody is installing them. We used her brand new en suite bath for the first time. Hated it. I had to stand all the way over by the toilet to keep my feet dry, but how sanitary is that when you guys can't aim properly? The water did spray all over...on her wood molding, near the wood floors in the bedroom, on the dry towels. I give that bathroom 6 months before it gets all moldy.

PS: Anyone remember the drug dealers on 12th & 6th? I'm going back about 10 years.

By gemini10 on January 8, 2010 3:31 PM


"PS: Anyone remember the drug dealers on 12th & 6th? I'm going back about 10 years.

RH: no, but do tell....

By JohnHancock on January 8, 2010 3:33 PM

Amzi, do you have a lead on a good reliable paint stripper in Bed Stuy. I've got plenty of stuff to strip

By rh on January 8, 2010 3:36 PM

G10, There were drug dealers on that block about 10 years ago. What else do you want to know?

Also, my next door neighbor on 15th, but we got his ass out of there! (circa 2001)

By rh on January 8, 2010 3:46 PM

On second thought, it could've been well over 10 years ago. Like early 90s?

By bkny on January 8, 2010 3:56 PM

mopar - whew! that's for clarifying that for me. i was getting really worried especially since we don't have an en suite master bath in our home! ;)

expert - i totally agree with you about living, dining & kitchen on one floor. i have debated this with friends that have them broken up over 2 floors - who wants to carry food up & downstairs? we entertain alot and can't imagine going back and forth. i guess if you want a 2 family this wouldn't work for you. i do like it as a one family though.

By johnife on January 8, 2010 4:06 PM

Before I moved from Ansonia Court (at 7th & 12th) about 14 years ago, we were plagued by the presence of a crack house on 13th Street just South of 7th (owned by grandma who ceded the run of the house to her gangster son or grandson). Our apartment was on the ground floor facing 7th and we used to see guys right outside our windows steering patrons to the place. The cops eventually shut it down. Never felt there was a problem with the kids on 12th between 6th & 7th though. I always regarded the street stickball and other high jinks as reflective of a close-knit community which I always regarded as a good thing. I guess folks these days think antiseptic, quiet, orderliness is the definition of a desirable neighborhood.

By JohnHancock on January 8, 2010 4:09 PM

Amzi, do you have a lead on a good local stripper here in Bed Stuy? I've got quite a few things left to strip

By slopefarm on January 8, 2010 4:15 PM

johnife,

I've lived on a bunch of blocks with "stickball playing kids." 12th b/w 6/7 was different. Not just the kids. back in the late 80s/early 90s, an unbelieveable bunch of loudmouth grownups and kids, parents who couldn't walk half a block to call their kids home but would just yell louder and louder for half an hour, several guys with a curbside custom car audio installation business testing their wares 24/7, you name it. Many times I would be woken up at 2-3 am(from a back of the house bedroom) by the street noise and if I even looked out the window to see what the commotion was, a bunch of folks would see me and yell up "don't you dare call the cops you @#$%'n yuppie!" and other nice things to that effect. I'm still in S. Slope and downslope and don't need an anti-septic vibe, but that block was really unbearable at times. I believe many, but not all, of the same families are still there, but I imagine there is a new genertion of kids.

By ecoux on January 8, 2010 4:19 PM

PLG house has been listed by at least three brokers simultaneously for three different prices. The highest being 839k last I checked.

By Sparafucile on January 8, 2010 4:19 PM

PLG's location is fine. The only negative (actually, just the loss of a positive) is that Empire Roller Disco isn't there any more.

By freeleeny on January 8, 2010 8:11 PM

The PLG house is now listed with Brown Harris Stevens, a REBNY member agency (Real Estate Board of NY) which co-brokes all of its listings to all REBNY agencies, something like a NYC version of the Multiple Listing System. Warren Lewis, Brooklyn Properties, and Aguayo & Huebener, etc, generally do not co-broke or share their listings in a database that is available to other agencies. Having this broader audience may work in the favor of this seller. Two nearly identical houses in the first block of Maple St sold in 2009 for $830k and $839k, so the $799k price for this renovated house seems realistic.

By higherwhitley on January 8, 2010 9:09 PM

The kids on 12th (6th/7th) are noisy, but really an OK bunch... I like the fact that there are still kids playing in the street & it's a good mixed crowd. That block has a great mix of neighbors & even though I don't live there, I know a bunch of people just from passing by regularly (have lived close by since the mid '80s)- very friendly in a way lots of more yuppified blocks aren't.

By househunt on January 8, 2010 10:04 PM

These properties are still overpriced, and it's not just that buyers want a bargain as some suggest. This was always the case, it's just that buyers are no longer as desperate and fearful and taken over by the herd mentality that contributed to the bubble. The newspapers report continued job loss, commercial real estate faltering in NYC, but brokers pretend PS is on the upswing, or at least their prices are going up? Besides the OH picks this week, check out this Corcoran listing . It's down from where it was first listed a couple of weeks ago, but if you go to property shark you'll see the house was sold less than a year ago and -- without lifting a finger, or even taken a new photo -- the broker decided it could sell for another 50,000-100,000!

By Nomi on January 9, 2010 12:45 AM

"But rather than a broker price, it looks to me like the typical naive seller trying to break even." (invisible)

Yes. Not sure why most assume it's the broker who is over pricing a place, and not the seller. It's more likely to be the other way around; the broker wants to make a sale, not have a property sit; the owner can sometimes be naive, stubborn, or just too emotionally attached to make a reasonable business decision.

By Bolder on January 10, 2010 3:12 PM

Nomi is right. It's always the seller's decision; in my experience realtors would rather underprice, for obvious reasons (perception of "bargain," no real benefit in commission for an extra 50 or 100k, quick sale to get that commssion, deniability when place doesn't sell).

If you're a seller you need to do your homework and stick to your guns, but also be prepared to accept the consequences if you're wrong.

By Attention2detail on January 10, 2010 8:45 PM

I have a similar house in PLG but with a private driveway, and I think the seller should have left the original floor plan. Not everyone is looking for the kind of renovation that was done. Just so you guys know, that area isnt bad at all, but for that kind of money for a 1 family....ehhh I duno. I wonder what the basement looks like.

Post a comment

Please be patient while your comment is published. It may take a moment.

Related Posts with Thumbnails