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December 14, 2009

The Re-Painted-Over Bedford Bike Lane

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Over the weekend, we went to check out the DOT's Bedford Avenue bike-lane-blackout handiwork ourselves. As you will recall, first there was a bike lane that ran through the heavily Hasidic section of South Williamsburg, then DOT painted over it as a result of a back-room political deal made by the mayor with religious leaders, then some bicycle safety activists painted it back, then DOT painted over it again. Yesterday there was a mock funeral procession to mourn its loss. Have we heard the last of the issue?




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How much is all this painting and repainting costing us taxpayers?

Posted by: Expert Textpert at December 14, 2009 10:07 AM

i think this whole fiasco just proves how much williamsburg is the most ABSURD neighborhood in nyc.

*rob*

Posted by: Butterfly at December 14, 2009 10:19 AM

such silly little white people

Posted by: joeingowanus at December 14, 2009 10:21 AM

You haven't heard? Bloomberg and members of the Hasidic community thinking of the greater good, have contributed the funds. ;-)

Posted by: bxgrl at December 14, 2009 10:21 AM

What's absurd is the Hasidim being able to convince Bloomberg to remove a safety improvement based on no actual reasoning.

What's absurd is expecting bikes to detour to Flushing Ave by the BQE exit, an incredibly dangerous area, to cater to the whims of these urban Amish.

What's absurd is these people thinking they have any right to control who goes through their neighborhood on public streets, regardless of how they dress.

What's really absurd -- and scary -- is that now they think that with the bike lane removed, bikes no longer have a right to ride on the street (totally wrong), and are therefore acting aggressively and trying to force bikes off the road.

Posted by: zinka at December 14, 2009 10:25 AM

Despite not gin=ving a rat's ass about bikers, I have to agree with zinka.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at December 14, 2009 10:29 AM

I don't see what the problem is. NYC cyclists ride on the sidewalk not the road.

Posted by: dittoburg at December 14, 2009 10:31 AM

dave, you don't mention if you value rat's asses or not in your statement. if you value rat's asses, i can only assume then that you care about bikers.

Posted by: joeingowanus at December 14, 2009 10:33 AM

What's also absurd is how quickly DOT acted on this issue while real street hazards go unrepaired for months on end.

Posted by: BrookLynn at December 14, 2009 10:33 AM

wha ditto? I barely ever see cyclists on the sidewalk, and when i do, its never where there's a bike lane

Posted by: blowfish at December 14, 2009 10:43 AM

When I was younger and rode a bike, there were no bike lanes and we rode wherever we wanted. Bike lane or not, if a cyclists wants to go up a certain street, they will.

Posted by: Expert Textpert at December 14, 2009 10:54 AM

Yeshiva World says that the bike lane removal was one of a number of last-minute promises by Bloomberg to get out the Hassidic vote...

http://theyeshivaworld.com/news/General+News/43051/Op-Ed:+Bloomberg+Played+Jewish+Voters+for+Fools.html

Posted by: havelc at December 14, 2009 10:56 AM

wow seriously? cant that be grounds for impeachment?

*rob*

Posted by: Butterfly at December 14, 2009 10:59 AM

Yes, havlec, from the "Bloomberg story" and the PHOTO above, it looks to me like, technically, the bike lane is still there!!!!

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at December 14, 2009 11:02 AM

They saiid Bloomberg admitted to it over the weekend- I am curious to see if anyone backtracks seeing as people are so angry about it.

Posted by: bxgrl at December 14, 2009 11:10 AM

I give it 50/50 of blowing over. Bikes will continue on this stretch in ever-growing numbers, lane or no lane. The question to me is whether extremists (on either side of the debate) push an escalation. These are two pretty indignant, organized and ideologically driven communities (Satmar and NYC cyclists) who have no overlap and very little grasp of each other’s cultures. Could be a wild ride…

Posted by: Dr Dean Franklin at December 14, 2009 11:27 AM

Zinka - but what about the children!?!

The removal of the bike lane does not mean that bikes are not allowed. Bikes are still allowed on ALL public streets. All that was removed was the dedicated bike marking - they even left the left-lane strip, which creates a de facto lane and encourages cars to keep right.

Still it's a travesty.

Posted by: WBer at December 14, 2009 11:45 AM

it's gonna be a shitshow if someone on a bike gets hit on this stretch.

Posted by: dirty_hipster at December 14, 2009 11:47 AM

WBer, Zinka knows that, s/he just said the anti-bike lane community along Bedford don't know that, and don't know that all they've done with this move is sacrifice safety

Posted by: blowfish at December 14, 2009 12:15 PM

doesn't! darn! my hands have terrible grammar

Posted by: blowfish at December 14, 2009 12:16 PM

The problem is that these people are now trying to block the bikers with their minivans. I've seen it done with my own two eyes. Also I've been cursed at by women when driving through their neighborhood on Saturday. If you can't drive on Sat that's between you and your god but don't curse me out because I don't believe in fairy tales.

Posted by: Adam Incognito at December 14, 2009 12:17 PM

Normally I couldn't care less. I live in Gowanus, and don't have a bike. But I just read this article on Gawker about a 33-year-old DJ getting killed on her bike in Greenpoint yesterday. Is it too much to ask that bikers get a little piece of the road? There are bus lanes everywhere...why not bike lanes. Article link below:


http://gawker.com/5425873/brooklyn-dj-killed-on-bike

Posted by: GowanusGirl at December 14, 2009 12:19 PM

i think the problem with bike drivers is that most of them, especially the ones who get hurt or worse killed, ride around the city kind of obvious, non helmeted, and riding grandpa bikes that are designed for leisurely rides in the country, not a super fast highly crowded city.

*rob*

Posted by: Butterfly at December 14, 2009 12:46 PM

just for fun they should relocate the mermaid parade over there.

Posted by: eh at December 14, 2009 1:09 PM

A source from within this community rejected the 'absurd comments' that accuses them of being intolerant to outsiders, and what a far stretch this is from the truth. The fact that they have been living in an area that is situated between major thoroughfares such as Bedford, Lee, Wythe, Kent, Flushing, and Park Ave., without major issues, proves that others are being intolerant to their needs. Specifically he pointed out; they have no issue with the Wythe Ave. bike lane and the elaborate Kent Ave bike lane.

However, just as cyclists usually do, they too had major safety issues with the Bedford bike lane. Not with the bikers themselves, but with the restrictions the designated bike lane placed on them. On this 14 block stretch there are 8-9 schools, four of which are located on the left side of the street, which made it difficult to drop off children safely. Moreover, Bedford Ave. was not a straight connecting route to the Williamsburg Bridge, cyclists needed to take a detour by Division Ave. on to Berry St. in order to close in to the bridge. So for safety reasons it made perfectly sense to make the detour 14 blocks earlier, which ensures the safety of the local community on the expense of an inconvenience to the cyclist community.

So if anyone is really concerned about safety, (one Jewish child was struck and killed 7 weeks ago, on a Sabbath morning when the streets are empty from cars, and it could have been a cyclist as well) you should applaud them. At least one community has done something to ensure their safety.

Posted by: abak at December 14, 2009 2:54 PM

Would be interesting to see the Hasids reaction if a mass bike ride took place in the neighborhood every month.

Posted by: BobfromBklyn at December 14, 2009 3:02 PM

abak- thank you for the clarification. One thing I will say, then, in all fairness, it is not in the best interests of the community to have people complaining about how people are dressed when riding through the neighborhood. The streets are still public streets and belong to everyone.

Don't people have more important things to do? How about mass bike rides against drunk drivers? Or against unsafe bike riders (having nearly been hit several times by overly aggressive ones going through lights)?

People have pointed out is that the bike lanes are not well thought out. If we want to make roads safe for bicyclists maybe the lanes ought to be put only on streets that can easily accommodate them and for the rest, they should obey the rules of the road as they stand. I think bike lanes are great, and we should have them, but i wish someone would come up with a much better plan. Its unrealistic to think a car centric society like we have is going to easily give up the streets, no matter how much better it would be.

Posted by: bxgrl at December 14, 2009 5:00 PM

How was this 'back room deal' any different than the 'back room deal' that almost surely took place to get the bike lanes there in the first place? I detect a bias here...

Posted by: BedStuyDoOrDie at December 15, 2009 12:12 AM

abak's comment makes no sense. Bike lanes IMPROVE safety, for everyone, not reduce it. Also, it's not true that bikes had to detour to Berry St. They could, but they could also continue straight on Bedford for a more direct route. The proposed "detour" involves Flushing Ave under the BQE at the exit ramp, which is horribly unsafe.

Posted by: zinka at December 15, 2009 1:42 AM

bxgrl-you're very right that bike lanes general were poorly planed, the revisions of the Kent bike lane is a classic example of poor planing.

Beyond that, the entire issue was twisted, by the media and bloggers, from a legitimate safety issue to a peculiar dress issue. (Is it because of sensation? anti-semitism?, or ridicule of chasidim?) Neither the DOT nor the local residents indicated anything but safety. There are other bike lanes running through that community, without any objection. This particular bike lane however, which runs through a heavily populated area and near many schools, was a safety threat to the many children. I paddled through Bedford Ave many times on Sunday mornings, when the local schools are open. On this 14 blocks stretch, i could easily pass 15 buses, either dropping off children at school buildings located on that stretch or picking up children, which as a bike rider is pretty annoying to stop behind buses.

Streets are for 'everyone', and that includes the local community too. Why should biker's safety take precedent over the local community safety? Bikers can take a detour, the locals cannot. It flies in the face the open bias against the Jewish people living in that community.

zinka-if you ever cycled through Bedford ave straight to the bridge, without following the bike lane to berry street like other safe cyclists do, than you should have no problem with the bike lane removal at all. Please see Google Street View that proves it.

Posted by: abak at December 17, 2009 7:15 PM

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