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**BLOOMBERG fOR MAYOR**
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 9:19 AM
What about the conspiracy theory that they let them win? After all, it'll be a big payday in NY...
Posted by: the chicken at November 3, 2009 9:21 AM
Clap = VD = Victory delayed
Posted by: Arkady at November 3, 2009 9:22 AM
Since elections are a big waste of time (today's resulting in my daughter not getting educated), how about just making it a "life appointment" for Bloomberg?
Posted by: the chicken at November 3, 2009 9:22 AM
**SNAPPY FOR MAYOR** (TODAY!)
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 9:22 AM
I suspect that yo believe that "eating white meat" is a conspiracy theory too.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 9:23 AM
don't you just wanna slap those low rent nobody polititians who harass you when youre getting into the subway? why is this so prevelant in brooklyn, i dont remember ever dealing with this in manhattan.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at November 3, 2009 9:23 AM
I can't vote - but if I could, it would be for Snappy!
Posted by: the chicken at November 3, 2009 9:23 AM
I like voting for people under their "alternative" party designations. I think it makes voting more fun!
Posted by: tybur6 at November 3, 2009 9:26 AM
More "firsts" out of Italy besides meatballs & pasta......
Rome Hospital Starts Treating ‘Booming’ Web-Addiction Disorder
Nov. 3 (Bloomberg) -- Rome’s Policlinico Gemelli hospital,
whose former patients include Pope John Paul II, has opened a clinic to treat Internet Addiction Disorder, a pathology linked to the obsessive need to be online.
The center, which opened yesterday, is a unit of the
psychiatric department and has received its first patients,
according to a statement on the hospital’s Web site. The Gemelli is one of the Italian capital’s biggest medical centers.
“The disorder is linked to the booming use of the
Internet, especially among the younger generation,” Lucio
D’Alessandris, a psychologist at the center, said in an
interview. “Many of the patients have interpersonal problems: They don’t talk to their neighbors and hardly go out, but are online all night to chat with someone in, say, Nepal.”
FYI, "Gemelli" is also a corkscrew shaped pasta.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 9:26 AM
quote:
(today's resulting in my daughter not getting educated)
doesnt she go to public school? they get like 4 minutes of education a day in nyc. the rest is all fluffer nutter.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at November 3, 2009 9:27 AM
What's the internet addiction equivalent of the patch? Or methadone? Some of us may need it.
Posted by: slopefarm at November 3, 2009 9:28 AM
"They don’t talk to their neighbors and hardly go out"
I go out and talk to my neighbors...on my stoop! ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 9:30 AM
SFarm - Power outage.
Posted by: Arkady at November 3, 2009 9:30 AM
And I've been "online all night to chat with someone in, say, Nepal.”
Nepalese guys are HOT, especially the Gurkas.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 9:34 AM
that's cold turkey, arkady. I am curious what gentler remedy they might be using in Italy to wean addicts from the web.
Posted by: slopefarm at November 3, 2009 9:38 AM
Chantix works on the same neuro-receptors that nicotine and alcohol affect, so i'd hypothesize that it could be used to ween you off the internet as well. Chantix basically works by making all the things in life that are pleasurable, not feel so pleasurable anymore. :-/ i have yet to actually fill my prescription, im not sure that's a life i wanna live. there's few things i enjoy why would i want to deprive myself?
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at November 3, 2009 9:42 AM
"I suspect that yo believe that "eating white meat" is a conspiracy theory too.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 9:23 AM"
Yes, although this one is slightly more implausible
Posted by: the chicken at November 3, 2009 9:43 AM
Knicks on a roll.
election day has its benefits - fewer cars on road this morning
I hope the one who wrecks home prices the most wins election today
Posted by: more4less at November 3, 2009 9:43 AM
"doesnt she go to public school? they get like 4 minutes of education a day in nyc. the rest is all fluffer nutter.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at November 3, 2009 9:27 AM"
Yes but she's not getting those 4 minutes!!!!
Posted by: the chicken at November 3, 2009 9:43 AM
that's cold turkey, arkady. I am curious what gentler remedy they might be using in Italy to wean addicts from the web.
Posted by: slopefarm at November 3, 2009 9:38 AM
Wine.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at November 3, 2009 9:45 AM
"I hope the one who wrecks home prices the most wins election today
Posted by: more4less at November 3, 2009 9:43 AM"
Why isn't someone running under a pledge to bring affordable houses to the masses?
Posted by: the chicken at November 3, 2009 9:45 AM
I voted on Ditto's behalf, as promised.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at November 3, 2009 9:46 AM
ha! troof chicken good point. i was terrified after i hit add reply someone would accuse me of hatin' on the chillrens again hahah
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at November 3, 2009 9:46 AM
Because "the masses" don't vote.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 9:47 AM
stupid masses and their non-voting ways....
Posted by: the chicken at November 3, 2009 9:50 AM
I heard on the radio that Thompson's biggest asset is that his avid supporters will turn out whereas Bloomie's group won't bother.
Posted by: Arkady at November 3, 2009 9:52 AM
There is probably truth to that, Arkady.
It will be a sad day today for the future of NYC if Thompson were to win. The return of back-room, corrupt, influence peddling politics will be on a scale this city hasn't seen in decades.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 9:55 AM
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***Bill Thompson for Mayor (TODAY!!!)***
Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at November 3, 2009 9:56 AM
so i just voted (pats self on back) and wanted to ask if anyone else noticed that 2 propositions tucked away down in the bottom right corner? why do they try to hide them? one was to vote on allowing prisoners to volunteer for non profits- why wouldn't they be allowed to already?
anyway, if you haven't- GO VOTE!!! polls are open until 9pm in most places...NO EXCUSES!!!
Posted by: randolph at November 3, 2009 9:56 AM
NO MORE DR. DOOMBERG!!! EIGHT IS ENOUGH!!!
NO MORE DR. DOOMBERG!!! EIGHT IS ENOUGH!!!
NO MORE DR. DOOMBERG!!! EIGHT IS ENOUGH!!!
NO MORE DR. DOOMBERG!!! EIGHT IS ENOUGH!!!
NO MORE DR. DOOMBERG!!! EIGHT IS ENOUGH!!!
NO MORE DR. DOOMBERG!!! EIGHT IS ENOUGH!!!
NO MORE DR. DOOMBERG!!! EIGHT IS ENOUGH!!!
NO MORE DR. DOOMBERG!!! EIGHT IS ENOUGH!!!
***Bill Thompson for Mayor (TODAY!!!)***
Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at November 3, 2009 9:58 AM
BHO, I don't think you've ever told us why Thompson will be better than Bloomberg.
Voting that way because you disagree with the term limits issue is simply idiotic.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 9:59 AM
does anyone ever think that brownstones half off becomes BHO becomes barack hussein obama? ok maybe just me.
Posted by: randolph at November 3, 2009 10:01 AM
Randolph - Prisoners do it now but there has to be a plebiscite to make it strictly legit. Times described both props yesterday.
Posted by: Arkady at November 3, 2009 10:05 AM
You're quick, randi, nothing gets past you.
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 10:07 AM
Where's ENY, our future Captain Kickball? Did I not tell him that nothing good would come of him prematurely gloating about the Yankees?
I wrote in ***Snappy for Mayor***
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 10:07 AM
This is sort of off-topic but on-topic as far as Obama and "PC" is concerned. I typed the name "Obama" in an e-mail in my MS Outlook and spell check flagged it, when I clicked on spell-check it suggested to change it to "Osama." We should poll BS readers to see if they think Microsoft Word's auto spell-check is "race-baiting."
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at November 3, 2009 10:11 AM
Thompson is a great and fair leader. Doomberg is an arrogant dictator and must be stopped.
Doomberg coined Thompson as the best controller NYC has ever had. Enough said.
OBAMA ENDORSES THOMPSON
***Bill Thompson for Mayor (VOTE TODAY!!!)***
Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at November 3, 2009 10:13 AM
Comptroller.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at November 3, 2009 10:14 AM
The Big O had to endorse the Dem nominee - pro forma, not visceral.
Posted by: Arkady at November 3, 2009 10:14 AM
Just you jerkolph.
***Bill Thompson for Mayor (VOTE TODAY!!!)***
Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at November 3, 2009 10:14 AM
Thompson is a great and fair leader. Doomberg is an arrogant dictator and must be stopped.
Doomberg coined Thompson as the best controller NYC has ever had. Enough said.
OBAMA ENDORSES THOMPSON
***Bill Thompson for Mayor (VOTE TODAY!!!)***
Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at November 3, 2009 10:13 AM
Very well thought out, BHO. I'm glad you looked into all the issues and came up with that.
No wonder you're still waiting to buy a home.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 10:15 AM
Joe- don't go there. Let's just assume Microsoft hasn't updated its spell check.
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 10:15 AM
I was just about to say the same thing Arkady. Big O needs Dem seats for his policies to go through.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at November 3, 2009 10:15 AM
BTW
Origins of "comptroller"
'Comptroller' is a pseudolearned respelling of 'controller,' taken by English from Old French. The fancy spelling is doubtless due to an erroneous association with French 'compte' "count." The word has fairly recently acquired a new pronunciation based on the misspelling.
comptroller [kənˈtrəʊlə]
n
(Economics, Accounting & Finance / Accounting & Book-keeping) a variant spelling of controller [2] esp as a title of any of various financial executives
comptrollership n
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at November 3, 2009 10:16 AM
I dunno, Arkady- if BHO is really Barack Hussein Obama, his postings seem pretty heartfelt :)
Ah, Mr. Prez- a word?
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 10:17 AM
Is "compte" also related to "compute?"
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 10:19 AM
No dirt on Thompson until Doomberg's smear campaign! How convenient! Both men are good leaders. Thompson is just better for NYC. And for good measure, he's just as economically and financially saavy as Bloomberg.
***Bill Thompson for Mayor (VOTE TODAY!!!)***
Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at November 3, 2009 10:19 AM
10:19?!? Braincells half off.
Posted by: Arkady at November 3, 2009 10:20 AM
"No wonder you're still waiting to buy a home."
Yup, buy low, sell high. Don't follow the sheep herd into the slaugherhouse. Think period.
***Bill Thompson for Mayor (VOTE TODAY!!!)***
Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at November 3, 2009 10:23 AM
Thompson is just better for NYC. And for good measure, he's just as economically and financially saavy as Bloomberg.
***Bill Thompson for Mayor (VOTE TODAY!!!)***
Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at November 3, 2009 10:19 AM
REALLY???? People as uneducated as you about the issues shouldn't actually be allowed to vote.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 10:23 AM
10:19?!? Braincells half off.
Posted by: Arkady at November 3, 2009 10:20 AM
LOL
Posted by: Kensingtonian at November 3, 2009 10:23 AM
"The Big O had to endorse the Dem nominee - pro forma"
Did you see the "endorsement"? It was Robert Gibbs from the podium, answering a reporter's question, hemming and hawing, and finally saying, "As the leader of the Democratic Party, the President supports the Democratic nominee."
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 10:24 AM
Uh, bxgrl, don't think I didn't notice you trying to sell yourself for the Gingerbread House
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 10:25 AM
Is "compte" also related to "compute?"
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 10:19 AM
The Latin is "computus" bxgrl. Looks like a match...
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at November 3, 2009 10:26 AM
Whoever wins, I can't wait until people stop reminding me of Dick van Patten.
Posted by: slopefarm at November 3, 2009 10:27 AM
Anyone voting for the Conservative, Libertarian or Green Party's respective candidates?
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at November 3, 2009 10:30 AM
C gar- I also offered to kill and butt kiss. But of course however I get the house you'll be with me (have you put down a deposit yet?)
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 10:31 AM
You have very expensive taste, bxgrl. Sure, I'll put down a deposit. But, I'll also have someone taste my food from now on, just in case.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 10:33 AM
bxgrl - Do you think our cats will get along?
Posted by: Arkady at November 3, 2009 10:34 AM
Great new Montrose thread and note the information at the end of the post. Eee-haah!
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 10:38 AM
Do you believe someone posted saying the house is "nice", but not spectacular?
C Gar- silly man! I only want what's best for us.I get C Gar dog as part of our pre-nup, right? But it wouldn't be home without you (where is that freeze dry your man brochure??)
Arkady- my cats have always been very good about accepting strange cats into the fold. (Unfortunately for me), so they'll get along fine. But we'll have to be extra vigilant about Montrose in the garage. She's a sucker for 4 legs and body hair :)
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 10:47 AM
"body hair "
Are we back to talking about body hair?
I heard that CGar didn't sleep a wink after last nights OT convo! ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 10:49 AM
What kind of tent would be contextually accurate?
Posted by: Arkady at November 3, 2009 10:51 AM
Who will live in the "Chauffer's Quarters?"
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 10:52 AM
What kind of tent would be contextually accurate?
Posted by: Arkady at November 3, 2009 10:51 AM
Honestly, having wet dreams about houses most of us will never be able to afford is fine but I do wonder if the consequences of this country's de-industrialization will result in "tent living" for more than a few of us in the not-too-distant future. Maybe we should apply for public housing now?!
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at November 3, 2009 10:56 AM
Honestly, having wet dreams about houses most of us will never be able to afford is fine but I do wonder if the consequences of this country's de-industrialization will result in "tent living" for more than a few of us in the not-too-distant future. Maybe we should apply for public housing now?!
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at November 3, 2009 10:56 AM
Are you the origianl "Joe The Bummer" poster????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 10:59 AM
Mornin' folksies!
Before I head off to the vet and the polls, I'd like to make one last plea for your votes. Remember, under a Snappy Administration the following will come to fruition:
MAYOR SNAPPY'S 10 POINT PLAN
1. A free oz or two of weed each month for my tokers
2. Lower ciggie prices for my smokers (hey, I'm a poet and didn't know it!)
3. Rent Control/Stabilization abolished unless you are already under it and are elderly/disabled
4. Smacking the ever-loving shit outta new NYC renters willing to pay/thinking it's acceptable to pay 4k for a studio with no sink in the bathroom.
5. Recessed lighting shall be no reason for shame!
6. 80's track lighting is a no-no!
7. Free tuna for all kitties!
8. A cat in every home, a litter box in every bathroom.
9. En suite baths for all! (except Rob)
10. MEATBALLS FOR EVERYONE!
***Snappy for Mayor*** (TODAY!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 10:59 AM
Joe- I think a lot of us are worrying about that now. But at least I will have a lovely striped, dagged edged, medieval tent with the family crest painted on it. I just have to find out what the family crest might be- probably a rampant matzo ball on a field of beet red and off white. Little gold OYs in the background.
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 11:01 AM
Are you the origianl "Joe The Bummer" poster????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 10:59 AM
If that was a literal question the answer is NO, I do NOT post as "Joe the Bummer." If it was rhetorical, I'm sorry I bummed you out.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at November 3, 2009 11:02 AM
Damn- she's got my vote! Even my cats are voting for snappy.
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 11:03 AM
STUFF THE BALLOT BOXES PEOPLE! I MUST WIN TODAY!!!
***Snappy for Mayor*** (TODAY!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 11:05 AM
"Are we back to talking about body hair?
I heard that CGar didn't sleep a wink after last nights OT convo! ; )"
Oh, please don't go there again, ladies. If you do, for God's sake, shave your pits and your legs first!
And is someone knocking living in tents again?
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 11:06 AM
**crickets**
**tumbleweeds go roolin' by**
WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU PEOPLE?? I THOUGHT YOU ALL SAID YOU WERE BEHIND ME!
***Snappy for Mayor*** (TODAY!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 11:13 AM
Snappy, I voted for Bloomberg today but I can explain everything!
I went into the booth with the Champs and had them participate in the process. Champ #1 moved the giant red stick and I lifted up Champ #2, who, before I could say anything, turned the knob associated with Bloomberg. I guess he's the choice of the children.
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 3, 2009 11:14 AM
Biffy, I expect you to have a stern talk with your wee ones! If I lose it will be on your heads!
***Snappy for Mayor*** (TODAY!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 11:17 AM
Cargar, I'll be over after the vet and the vote...with tweezers, Nair, cotton, wax and razors :-)
***Snappy for Mayor*** (TODAY!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 11:17 AM
I'm convinced this will be the first and only time I supported the same person for whom the majority of Death Starites voted.
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 3, 2009 11:20 AM
"Biffy, I expect you to have a stern talk with your wee ones!"
Rewrites????????? Right, not even necessary.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 11:21 AM
I ended up voting for Bloomberg - a grudging last minute decision.
I had thought I would vote Conservative as an ideolgical / protest thing but didn't think I could sincerely vote for a candidate whom I could not see doing the job.
(I even voted for my Democrat councilwoman, because I think she's a good person who has been helpful with some of the projects we have done at Church).
Posted by: etson at November 3, 2009 11:25 AM
Hiya
Geez - at least Snappy lists her changes! - Bloomie nor Thompson have not....
AM SOOOO over those dips who keep forcing glossy paper into my hand when I walk down into the subway.
Like hello - don't you know I am going to throw it away as soon as I find a trash can
Posted by: gemini10 at November 3, 2009 11:25 AM
Ok...election promise #11:
Liquid "Brownstoner" that can be transfused via IV. That way, no matter where you are or what you are doing, you will always get your Brownstoner fix! (Mr. B, we need to talk!)
***Snappy for Mayor*** (TODAY!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 11:27 AM
Gem, take their glossy pages, roll em up and whack em with it while shouting----
***Snappy for Mayor*** (TODAY!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 11:28 AM
"6. 80's track lighting is a no-no!"
I have track lighting in my kitchen! YIKES!
***Snappy for Mayor*** (TODAY!)
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 11:29 AM
Cobble, as a renter, you will not be punished for your landlord's lighting choices :) If, however, you installed said track lighting I will have to make an example of you to show the voters I mean business! LOL
***Snappy for Mayor*** (TODAY!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 11:31 AM
I swear we didn't put it in!! Although, BH did make some handy adjustments!
***Snappy for Mayor*** (TODAY!)
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 11:34 AM
Ok then Cobble, you are off the hook...you can watch your landlord get flogged in the town square!
***Snappy for Mayor*** (TODAY!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 11:39 AM
"I swear we didn't put it in!!"
TWHS!!!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 11:39 AM
"handy adjustments" heh heh heh. I bet :)
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 11:40 AM
""handy adjustments" heh heh heh. I bet :)"
You bet!! He's very talented with his tools! ; ) [Cannot believe I just wrote that...]
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 11:44 AM
Did one of those adjustments include the installation of a disco ball? If so, I'll be over around 8 on Friday with my bell bottoms, shit kicker shoes and shirt with the butterfly collar. I trust you'll supply the music for me to get down with my bad self? :-)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 11:46 AM
"He's very talented with his tools! ; ) "
ROFL
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 11:47 AM
Snappy, I haven't voted yet. Before I do, I'd like to hear your position on automatic 30% discounts for chinamen on property purchases...
Posted by: the chicken at November 3, 2009 11:48 AM
quote:
Honestly, having wet dreams about houses most of us will never be able to afford is fine but I do wonder if the consequences of this country's de-industrialization will result in "tent living" for more than a few of us in the not-too-distant future. Maybe we should apply for public housing now?!
i have no problems living in a tent village, nor a trailer park for that matter. joe, you cannot live in public housing because
1.) you can't make a baby
2.) you are not a straight women in an abusive relationship. the rule only applies for female victims of domestic abuse, straight ones at that! go figure.
3.) you can get in if you 'go shelter' which is code for literally putting yourself on the streets INTENTIONALLY to bump yourself on a list.
granted public housing isnt a nice place to live, and i agree it does serve its purpose for the most part, i just think it's shady.
but back to tent cities... yay! trailer parks along the waterfront would rock too. i wanna be queen of the trailer park!
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at November 3, 2009 11:50 AM
CGar!!! Did you tell Snappy about the disco ball?! I asked you not to talk to people about my business!!
Ok, secret's out...disco - Friday's at 8, Guitar Hero - Saturdays at 8, and Karaoke both nights after midnight!! $12 at the door! ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 11:50 AM
"MAYOR SNAPPY'S 10 POINT PLAN
1. A free oz or two of weed each month for my tokers
2. Lower ciggie prices for my smokers (hey, I'm a poet and didn't know it!)"
LLLOOOOLLLL!!!!!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at November 3, 2009 11:51 AM
Any discount for advance ticket sales and a white polyester suit?
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 11:52 AM
"IT AIN'T OVER 'TILL IT'S OVER"
"Where's ENY, our future Captain Kickball? Did I not tell him that nothing good would come of him prematurely gloating about the Yankees?"
Car Gar, Car Gar, Car Gar. I expect this from Mr. Front Runner Dave, but there you go wavering again. Sigh. Despite the Frillies' best pitcher going with a six-run lead, the Yanks STILL nearly won it last night! The Yanks took 2 of 3 from Philly in THEIR ballpark!
The Yankees will bring forth the 27th championship in style Wednesday evening, behind career postseason wins leader Andy Pettite, in a manner that will reflect the true force and majesty of the name Bronx Bombers. The Foolies will be rendered as ineffectual as a moldy Philly cheesesteak under the Yanks' withering assault, as the Sultans of Swat march inexorably to the title behind the irresistible vanguard of four key words:
WHO'S YOUR DADDY?
Posted by: East New York at November 3, 2009 11:53 AM
Chicken, I will personally see to it that you get the house of your choice for 75%off the list price :-)
***Snappy for Mayor*** (TODAY!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 11:54 AM
Off to vote!
Mark Winston Griffith for City Council!
NOT voting for Bloomberg, but don't know what I'm going to do when I get in there. Not that fond of Thompson, but the rest are nutballs. Wait.......
******SNAPPY POR ALCALDE*********
Posted by: Montrose Morris at November 3, 2009 11:54 AM
bxgrl, If we keep this up there's gonna be a line down the block on Friday and my LL is gonna wanna cut!!
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 11:55 AM
"I asked you not to talk to people about my business!!"
Which business? I don't think I told Snappy that you run a brothel.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 11:55 AM
$12!!! WTF? I get no discount for showing up with a 'fro??? (I can do that ya know!) LOL
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 11:55 AM
DH, so you voting for me or what?!
***Snappy for Mayor*** (TODAY!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 11:56 AM
That's right MM! ***Snappy for Mayor*** (TODAY!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 11:56 AM
A Brothel?! You mean like in Hebraic soup? Broth-el?
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 11:57 AM
"I don't think I told Snappy that you run a brothel."
Well, I haven't yet...but now that you mention it...
Hey Snappy, remember when you said you'd be my Pimp....
[Fro would REALLY help there! ; ) ]
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 11:58 AM
Cargar! Shhhhhh! (I have to work at that brothel some nights...times are hard, man! Times are hard!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 11:59 AM
Cobble...fro coming right up! I just need to get caught in the rain for five minutes or so...seriously!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 12:00 PM
Cobble- you run a soup shop, make lots of money, and run for office against snappy in 4 years when she fails to keep all of her promises and there are still cats out on the street.,
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 12:00 PM
hi folks,
I think BHO has won me over with his in depth assessment of the candidate and the person. His probing insight into the essence of his candidacy and his unique perspective in an otherwise barren political landscape.
Yes,I'm voting for Bill Thompson, Brownstones Half Off.
NOT.
Posted by: Legion at November 3, 2009 12:02 PM
Wait a minute- isn't that what got Spitzer kicked out of office? Snappy- you haven't even been elected yet!
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 12:03 PM
Et tu, Bxgirl??? :-( I will keep my campaign promises!!!!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 12:03 PM
Legion, you must vote for me!!!
***Snappy for Mayor*** (TODAY!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 12:05 PM
I'm glad the Yankees showed a little life in the 8th and 9th yesterday. would have been a lot more disappointing to come home after an ass whipping as opposed to a game that we won from the third inning on...
Interesting to see how Andy deals with short rest tomorrow. Yankees bats, with the exception of Cano and Teixera, seem to be awake now so lets hope they light up Pedro and bring it home tomorrow. Go Yanks!
Posted by: wasder at November 3, 2009 12:06 PM
But Bxgirl, as I told Cargar, times are hard! There is nothing in my house worth selling so I have to...ahem...sell "nature's gift that keeps on giving" :-) LOL
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 12:06 PM
Just being a good citizen/witness :)
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 12:07 PM
Last night's game may again be my fault :-(
I peeked at the game several times. Sigh. I promise I will stick to HGTV and no more peeking so than can go ahead and win this thing. Please don't hold it against me at the polls today folks!
***Snappy for Mayor*** (TODAY!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 12:08 PM
In other news, Pelosi delivered her 2000 page bill on healthcare "reform"
tell me something people,
if Martin Luther only took 99 points on a couple of pages of sheepskin to reform all of Christendom,
why on earth should it take 2000 pages for Pelosi to expand healthcare coverage?
Posted by: Legion at November 3, 2009 12:09 PM
"I peeked at the game several times."
That's so funny! BH said the same thing last night...he didn't want to look for fear of jinxing it!
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 12:11 PM
ROFL @ comparing her to Martin Luther! Is Pelosi selling indulgences in that package? LOL
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 12:11 PM
snappy,
of course, you get my write-in vote.
they're predicting low turn-out today, you never know.
Posted by: Legion at November 3, 2009 12:12 PM
snappy,
why do you think Pelosi was scolded by the Pope, this past summer at the Vatican. lol.
Posted by: Legion at November 3, 2009 12:13 PM
Legion - To try to obviate all the microscopic nits the GOP will glom onto.
Posted by: Arkady at November 3, 2009 12:13 PM
LOL Legion! A Papal scolding!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 12:15 PM
From the FDR thread:
"Any real Brooklynite rides in the left and middle lane and then cuts in at the last minute - the right lane is for tourists, suckers and drunks."
ROFL!!!
Fsrg cracks me the eff up!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 12:16 PM
Arkady,
no need to pick away at the minutae, when the bill, in it's heft, speaks volumes.
when has 2000 pages of laws and mandates ever helped people advance?
the Declaration of Independence got it right on one page, as did the Magna Carta....
come to think of it...so did Nathan's menu.
Posted by: Legion at November 3, 2009 12:18 PM
Legion- Martin Luther was responsible for a lot of death and destruction. Not to mention he wasn't too happy with us Jews. I wouldn't call what he did reform. He created an internecine battle that hurt millions and crushed many more between the Protestant and Catholic Church wars. You don't need much paper when you don't think about consequences.
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 12:19 PM
Yeah, but if Nathan's tried to forestall PETA & vegans & locavores, & other "interest groups", etc. it'd be an epic tome.
Posted by: Arkady at November 3, 2009 12:20 PM
That said Legion- There are documents that got it right- agreed.
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 12:21 PM
"if Martin Luther only took 99 points on a couple of pages of sheepskin..."
WAIT!!!
Martin Luther wrote the 95 Thesis on condoms???!!!???
:-)
(was that blaspehmous?)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 12:21 PM
"come to think of it...so did Nathan's menu."
LOL!!
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 12:23 PM
Yes, snappy- but you earned my vote with it :)
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 12:23 PM
OK, I'm off to vote!
***Snappy for Mayor*** (TODAY!)
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 12:26 PM
Can somebody make me a nice handbasket for my inevitable trip to hell for my 12:21? Thanks!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 12:27 PM
hi bxgrl,
I never said Martin Luther got it right, I only said he got the reform passed with those 99 points.
ok, how about Moses, he got it all in 10 commandments.
on another topic. how is your cat doing?
Posted by: Legion at November 3, 2009 12:29 PM
Crap...Cobble, that reminds me...I haven't written up my acceptance speech yet! Sigh. Politicking is hard, endless work.
Ooooh...
Snappy Campaign Promise #12:
From here on out, the Yankees will always win the World Series, even if all other teams have to experience odd 'accidents' that cause them to tumble down a flight of stairs thereby causing arm and leg fractures. And the BoSox will be rounded up, tarred and feathered on the streets of the South Bronx.
***Snappy for Mayor*** (TODAY!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 12:30 PM
Arkady,
true, things were simplier then, in the hot dog business.
Posted by: Legion at November 3, 2009 12:31 PM
snappy,
lol, it must have been one of those "magnum" sheepskins.
Posted by: Legion at November 3, 2009 12:31 PM
reform isn't the word I'd use. Can of worms maybe :)
Cat is doing better. Another draw back from the brink of death just so he could cost me money. I know he plans it. He's evil.
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 12:32 PM
LOL Legion!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 12:33 PM
"From here on out, the Yankees will always win the World Series, even if all other teams have to experience odd 'accidents' that cause them to tumble down a flight of stairs thereby causing arm and leg fractures. And the BoSox will be rounded up, tarred and feathered on the streets of the South Bronx.
***Snappy for Mayor*** (TODAY!)"
Hell- Snappy for Queen of the US!!
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 12:34 PM
Yay! Queen Snappy!
(does this position come with manservants?)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 12:38 PM
"reform isn't the word I'd use. Can of worms maybe :)"
It was a whole Diet of Worms.
Posted by: etson at November 3, 2009 12:45 PM
etson, most Americans don't know what the Continental Congress, the Grand Army of the republic, the gettysburg Address, the Emancipation Proclamation are. Please don't expect them to even have heard of the Diet of Worms.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 12:58 PM
Yes, or womenservants- your choice.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at November 3, 2009 12:58 PM
So did Bloomers get voted in by the will of the people yet?
Posted by: dittoburg at November 3, 2009 12:59 PM
"WHO'S YOUR DADDY?"
ENY, I didn't know you played for my team! ; )
(And "Who's your Daddy" is only 3 words!)
PS, I wasn't wavering, just being cautiously optimistic.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 1:02 PM
daveinbedstuy,
what's so bad about a diet of worms?
Charlie Starkist "tuna"
Posted by: Legion at November 3, 2009 1:02 PM
Oh, then I'll take womenservants. Topless ones. Wearing Daisy Dukes. That look like Serena. And are lesbians.
Too much to ask? :-)
Ok...vet and vote time. Later my lovelies!
***Snappy for Mayor*** (TODAY!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 1:04 PM
"ENY, I didn't know you played for my team! ; )"
Um, no. Not that there's anything wrong with that!
"(And "Who's your Daddy" is only 3 words!)"
Oh yeah. Thanks for that!
Posted by: East New York at November 3, 2009 1:04 PM
Snappy, do you prefer Serena or Venus?? There's a lurker who's working with Serena next week and he wants to know if you want her autograph!!!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 1:13 PM
FYI (If you really care...)
The Diet of Worms[p] (German: Reichstag zu Worms, ['ʁaɪçsta:k tsu: 'voɐms]) was a general assembly of the Imperial Estates of the Holy Roman Empire that took place in 1521 at Worms, a small town on the Rhine River located in what is now Germany. It was conducted from 28 January to 25 May 1521, with Emperor Charles V presiding. Although other issues were dealt with at the Diet of Worms, it is most memorable for the Edict of Worms (Wormser Edikt), which addressed Martin Luther and the effects of the Protestant Reformation.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at November 3, 2009 1:13 PM
Pitiful turnout. Just pitiful.
VOTE LOSERS! VOTE!!
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 1:14 PM
cobble, what are you hearing about turnout & polls????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 1:14 PM
I just bought these Brooklyn Bridge 20 cent Stamp cufflinks...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350238581287&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 1:17 PM
Cobblers, as a loser who can't vote may I remind you that NY has a huge disenfranchised population of greencard holders, illegal immigrants, dogs, cats etc. Its not our fault.
Posted by: dittoburg at November 3, 2009 1:18 PM
ditto, no excuse. My dog voted as soon as the polls opened.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 1:20 PM
Dave, say hello to the lurker from me. He or she should start posting again.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at November 3, 2009 1:21 PM
Ditto, did you see my early post? I voted on your behalf.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at November 3, 2009 1:21 PM
"cobble, what are you hearing about turnout & polls????"
Only what I could see at my local polls. I think, other than the poll workers and cops hanging around, there were about 3 other voters.
SAD!
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 1:24 PM
Kens - sorry - I'm skimming today.
Ta very much mate
Posted by: dittoburg at November 3, 2009 1:24 PM
Ditto, I'm sorry you can't vote, but at least you have an excuse!
Losers are people that are registered and just don't vote unless it's a presidential election!
HATE 'EM!
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 1:25 PM
DIBS - Im thinking of buying one of those very old typewriters, just to clog up my mantle. Anyone know where I can get one?
Posted by: dittoburg at November 3, 2009 1:27 PM
ebay, ditto.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 1:30 PM
"Queen Snappy!"
Surely comes with womanservants. I'm pretty sure I read the job description the other day on Media Bistro...
Serena Look-a-likes Wanted
Must be round of hip and rump, willing to work topless, wear shorty-shorts, and have strong desire to serve our Queen. Please email photos and related work history.
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 1:38 PM
I'm voting after work.
Posted by: East New York at November 3, 2009 1:40 PM
ditto...there are 171 typewriters for sale on ebay under "Antiques."
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 1:44 PM
Dibs - I have a few of those stamps! (Don't wear the links to the next gathering - Snaps'll grab 'em off you.)
I was #98 in my ED.
Posted by: Arkady at November 3, 2009 1:45 PM
how dumb! i just finally got around to filling my script for chantix from the doctor and it turns out my insurance plan doesnt cover stop smoking drugs. that sounds so counterintuitive, no? it wound up being 160 dollars! that doesnt go toward my deductible. at least i had that bit on my health savings flex card, but still 160 dollars out of pocket for a month's starter pack? now im hearing that if you have a nice doctor they will often give you a starter pack for FREE? someone told me the same thing about the Advair inhaler i was on that some doctors give it to you for free if they put you on it temporarily like i went on it, not for chronic asthmas. that was like 160 bux too!!!
a serious question, if there is a public option for insurance, wont all these drugs wind up costing people even more, especially those already on a health plan? or is it the opposite?
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at November 3, 2009 1:46 PM
"ditto...there are 171 typewriters for sale on ebay under "Antiques.""
Mrs C. tried to get rid of me by selling me in that section.
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 3, 2009 1:47 PM
"I was #98 in my ED."
How do you know that, Arkady?
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 1:49 PM
"I was #98 in my ED."
Erectile Dysfunction?? I don't get it.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 1:52 PM
The way the bill stands, it would probably cost around the same, only you'd be required by law to not "fire" your insurance company. It's simply a law requiring everyone to buy insurance with a few well intentioned (pitiful really)provisions like not denying coverage for an existing condition. Certainly a blow job for the Insurance Industry if I ever saw one...
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at November 3, 2009 1:52 PM
Election District, DIBS!
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 1:53 PM
The poll workers for the Election District fill out little cards & I heard them say I was 98th.
Posted by: Arkady at November 3, 2009 1:53 PM
There is a Flatbush Art Studio Tour going on this upcoming weekend.
http://www.flatbushartists.org/
Anyone wants to volunteer and email this link to Mr. B so he can put this up in the upcoming weekend events section?
Posted by: Kensingtonian at November 3, 2009 1:54 PM
biff,
could be worse, you could have been listed under 'curb alert' on Craigslist.
Posted by: Legion at November 3, 2009 1:55 PM
I've seen them fill out the little cards, but I didn't realize they were numbered! I shoulda/woulda asked!
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 1:56 PM
The poll workers at the church on Montague and Clinton where I voted were the dumbest group of pollsters I've ever encountered, and that says something. Between them and those archaic machines, I don't have much confidence in the integrity of the system.
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 3, 2009 1:57 PM
I'm 80th then. It was marked on the wall next to my voting booth. There were probably 10-12 districts in the school auditorium where I voted.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 1:58 PM
"could be worse, you could have been listed under 'curb alert' on Craigslist."
Is that someone whose other half tries to kick him/her to the curb by hooking him/her up on Craigslist?
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 3, 2009 1:58 PM
Biff, you want a laugh, go search "frum" in the Men Seeking Men" category on craigslist!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 2:00 PM
biff,
lol, no, on craigslist there is a section titled "free stuff". where people list things of value that they are throwing out. like a nice lamp or computer monitor. check it out. people throw away valuable stuff.
Posted by: Legion at November 3, 2009 2:02 PM
"Biff, you want a laugh, go search "frum" in the Men Seeking Men" category on craigslist!!!!"
I would love to read the ad titles for them. How about, "Frum Here to Eternity"?
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 3, 2009 2:03 PM
"Mrs C. tried to get rid of me by selling me in that
section"
Tried? I'm guessing no bids?
; )
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 2:04 PM
Diet of Worms was exactly what i thought of :). Probably the only thing I remember from European history.
My cats and I voted. I can't speak for my sibs in fur but Snappy- you're gonna win this thing!
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 2:06 PM
"Tried? I'm guessing no bids?"
Clearly people were intimidated by the $2 minimum bid.
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 3, 2009 2:07 PM
rob,
you can ask your doctor's office for samples. most doctor's offices have a closet just for drug samples that they get for free when the drug reps detail them about their products. used to be, a doctor could get baseball tickets right on the 1st base line or a palm pilot, now all doctors can get is sample meds. ask your doctor, or better yet, his office manager, they know where to look.
Posted by: Legion at November 3, 2009 2:07 PM
The poll workers at the church on Montague and Clinton where I voted were the dumbest group of pollsters I've ever encountered, and that says something. Between them and those archaic machines, I don't have much confidence in the integrity of the system.
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 3, 2009 1:57 PM
The only ones that seem to have any kind of knowledge or care for their work are the elderly poll workers. Once they're gone our cats might very well be able to vote...
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at November 3, 2009 2:08 PM
"Between them and those archaic machines, I don't have much confidence in the integrity of the system"
At least we don't have to contend with hanging chads
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 2:08 PM
dave- last year i bought a wonderful old souvenir spoon of the Brooklyn Bridge as an Xmas gift for the 5 x QOTD, Oft quoted and now writer of 2 weekly columns Montrose Morris (I sing soprano in the Amen choir).
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 2:08 PM
"(pitiful really)provisions like not denying coverage for an existing condition"
There's nothing pitiful about that as it can literally cost millions of dollars - and mean the difference between life or death - to an ill person on the wrong side of denial for a pre-existing condition.
Also, it somewhat disingenuous to assert that a person would be "required by law not to fire your insurance company." In reality, under the plan, everyone will be required to have health insurance. If a person has a particular insurance plan he/she likes, they keep it. But if he/she doesn't have insurance because they can't afford it or their job does not offer it, there will be an alternative, including (apparently) a government run- and financed option.
Posted by: East New York at November 3, 2009 2:09 PM
Hey, joe- watch that! My guys already voted ( see, some of our cats figured out how to pull the levers even without opposable thumbs. )
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 2:10 PM
"Clearly people were intimidated by the $2 minimum bid"
Hmmh. Mrs. C might do better by listing you on FreeCycle.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 2:11 PM
"Certainly a blow job for the Insurance Industry if I ever saw one..."
FYI, the insurance industry is already enjoying a generous and lengthy blow job the way things are, which is why they are lobbying so hard against health care reform.
Posted by: East New York at November 3, 2009 2:12 PM
Thank you, ENY. I was too irritated to respond to that, eloquently!
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 2:14 PM
Right on, ENY!
Posted by: Arkady at November 3, 2009 2:16 PM
"At least we don't have to contend with hanging chads"
Has anyone ever had to deal with hanging chads?
Or a hung Chad?
Cobble, care to comment?
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 3, 2009 2:17 PM
ENY,
for one Trillion dollars,
somebody better be gettin' some.
Posted by: Legion at November 3, 2009 2:18 PM
"Why isn't someone running under a pledge to bring affordable houses to the masses?"
Someone is, and I voted for him. rentsistoodamnhigh! Anyone that bad who gets on the ballot deserves my vote, so w Bloomberg expected to win by a wide margin, why not? He's hidden to the right of the ballot under the Green party.
Posted by: denton at November 3, 2009 2:21 PM
Funny, I didn't hear you bringing up the cost of the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan, Legion. Maybe I missed that. Anyway, if we can spend that much to kill people in another country, we can certainly spend it to ensure ill people in this country have access to affordable healthcare.
Posted by: East New York at November 3, 2009 2:22 PM
i miss the throwback thread of the day. why no more?
Posted by: randolph at November 3, 2009 2:25 PM
Ha ha Denton, I was almost tempted to vote for the 22 year old student lol.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at November 3, 2009 2:26 PM
Funny, I didn't hear you bringing up the cost of the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan, Legion. Maybe I missed that. Anyway, if we can spend that much to kill people in another country, we can certainly spend it to ensure ill people in this country have access to affordable healthcare.
Posted by: East New York at November 3, 2009 2:22 PM
As a republican, this is one of the few things I agree with the people to the Left of me.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 2:28 PM
"i miss the throwback thread of the day. why no more?"
Randi, I only had a handful of them and think I've posted them all. Mr. B needs to have a better search tool that would help find old threads based on certain key words. Of course, if one entered the word "Asshat", 4,000 matching threads would come up.
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 3, 2009 2:30 PM
Interesting stuff from CNN.com on the black cowboys in the Brooklyn-Queens border (near "The Hole").
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/11/03/black.cowboys/index.html
Posted by: East New York at November 3, 2009 2:30 PM
Well said, ENY.
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 2:30 PM
ENY,
hey, we didn't ask for 9/11, but that cost us about a trillion to our economy.
we could cede our role as primary advocate for democracy around the globe, then what would you get?
nobody said you couldn't maintain our nation's sovereignty and still cover those without healthcare;
1. tort reform
2. malpractice insurance reform
3. medical insurance reform
4. doctor adjucation courts- for bad doctors
5. interstate competition for healthcare insurance
6. stricter oversight for medicare fraud.
7. stricter oversight for madicaid fraud.
8. tax incentives for health savings accounts,
I could go on,
you could do this without adding 1 trillion to our deficit.
Posted by: Legion at November 3, 2009 2:33 PM
I thought the black cowboys story was a feature on Emmett Smith, Michael Irvin and Tony Dorsett.
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 3, 2009 2:34 PM
"At least we don't have to contend with hanging chads"
"Has anyone ever had to deal with hanging chads?
Or a hung Chad?
Cobble, care to comment?"
My chad is, in fact, hung. But I never leave him hanging....
[cripes! CANNOT believe I'm saying this stuff today!]
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 2:34 PM
biff- maybe there should be a "OT six months later" to go along with the house of the day 6 months later?
Posted by: randolph at November 3, 2009 2:36 PM
"we could cede our role as primary advocate for democracy around the globe, then what would you get?"
Legion, do you really think the true reason behind all of the US invasions throughout the last 60 years was to advocate democracy? I think that is the last thing the US government has cared about.
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 3, 2009 2:36 PM
The black cowboys used to ride over to the Brooklyn Inn from time to time. I always got a kick out of seeing them!
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 2:37 PM
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Warren Buffett said he's making an "all-in wager on the economic future of the United States" with the purchase of railroad Burlington Northern Santa Fe. Let's hope it's a bet that Buffett wins.
The Oracle of Omaha stunned the markets Tuesday with the announcement that his holding company Berkshire Hathaway (BRKA, Fortune 500) was scooping up the remaining 77% of Burlington Northern (BNI, Fortune 500) that it didn't already own. He's paying $100 a share, a 31.5% premium to Monday's closing price.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at November 3, 2009 2:38 PM
East New York, as the bill stands it is not "universal health coverage" , it should be called "universal punishment" because that's what it means, just like auto insurance is now. It just makes it illegal to not have insurance besides some very obviuosly good provisions the gist of the bill is just that. Imagine a law requiring you to shop a Walmart, that's what this is. The insurance industry (which acts as one company through its lobbyists) needs to be run out of the health care game in order to have any truly universal coverage.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at November 3, 2009 2:39 PM
Kens, I own some BNI in my IRA; obviously not enough!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 2:39 PM
Hmm, I seem to recall something about an oil running through a certain country we now happen to be losing more soldiers than EVER in. That wouldn't have anything to do with why were there, would it?
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 2:40 PM
"biff- maybe there should be a "OT six months later" to go along with the house of the day 6 months later?"
Randi, that would be interesting. We can compare today's posters with those who have blogacided for real.
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 3, 2009 2:40 PM
biff,
I have no doubt the United States has protected it's interests playing hardball, everywhere from Panama to Afghanistan and back. I am also under no illusion that these simple freedoms we are enjoying right now, like voicing our opinions on the internet, came at a great price, sometimes an unfair price.
but, what is our alternative when history has proven time and again that despots and tyrants will always be there to take from the many, what little they have, under the guise of a better world.
Posted by: Legion at November 3, 2009 2:42 PM
That's a ballsy move by Warren. I think he knows something. That guy doesn't make an investment unless he knows things inside out.
In other news....
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- In a major consolidation of the tool industry, Stanley Works agreed to acquire Black & Decker in a $4.5 billion all-stock deal, the companies said Monday.
Under the terms of the deal, Black & Decker (BDK, Fortune 500) shareholders will receive 1.275 shares of Stanley Works (SWK) common stock for each B&D share. That's a 22.1% premium to Black & Decker's closing share price on Friday.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at November 3, 2009 2:42 PM
"Certainly a blow job for the Insurance Industry if I ever saw one..."
FYI, the insurance industry is already enjoying a generous and lengthy blow job the way things are, which is why they are lobbying so hard against health care reform.
Posted by: East New York at November 3, 2009 2:12 PM
Why would they lobby against a bill that they wrote?
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at November 3, 2009 2:42 PM
"My chad is, in fact, hung"
Says the woman who didn't want to play "Name That Body Part", Euphemisms for Jerking Off, last Friday!!!!!
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 2:42 PM
ch, you're not being very patriotic!
Posted by: DeLepp at November 3, 2009 2:43 PM
ENY,
better yet, let's get to the heart of this 2000 page behemoth.
it proposes to fundamentally change healthcare in america,
but according to the congressional budget office, it will still leave millions uninsured.
it proposes to let you keep your current insurance,
but according to the details, you will no longer be able to buy private insurance by about 2013.
it proposes to cut insurance costs in the long run, but according to the congressional budget office, it will most certainly lead to increased healthcare costs over the long haul.
it proposes to be for the people, for a better society, when in actuality, it is adding an additional 18 percent of the private sector economy to the 30 percent of the economy that the government now manages, bringing the grand total to about 48 percent of the economy controlled by the government. the same government that has managed to steer medicare towards insolvency, medicaid towards insolvency and projected that social security will also be out of funds by about 2030. that's only 20 years away.
Posted by: Legion at November 3, 2009 2:47 PM
Cobblehiller:
"My chad is, in fact, hung"
Mrs. C.:
"In fact, my Biff should be hanged"
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 3, 2009 2:48 PM
While we advocate democracy around the globe, we can't force it on anyone- our foray into Iraq was a disaster of epic proportions that accomplished nothing except to destabilze the country, caused untold numbers of innocent deaths and devastate our military men, women and their families. For what? We should have focused on Osame- that was it. I wouldn't want another country invading here to force its idea of government on us. Where the hell so we get the idea we have the right to impose ours on anyone else. Educate? Yes. Try to convince? Yes. Humanitarian assistance and aid? Yes. Be the democracy police- No. We aren't qualified to make that call for anyone but ourselves and we can't afford to make that call for anyone but ourselves. Just look at the results in Irag. A whole lot of people dead- and for what? Bush barked about how Hussein killed so many of his people- we've managed to do the same.
ENY said it right.
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 2:48 PM
1.Establishes a mandate to purchase private insurance for most individuals with an income above poverty level.
source ^ America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 - Summary, Congressional Research Service
FYI, first provision. How many of you out their consider yourselves "poor" but are well above poverty level? Well, this applies to you. Remember Big Pauly from Goodfellas? The gov't is allowing your insurance company to tell you "fuck you, pay me."
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at November 3, 2009 2:51 PM
folks,
let me be clear again,
by all means, let's reform healthcare and cover people who need covering.
but don't tell me this congress and this president are serious when they are leaving out tort reform from this 2000 page bill. it is, from that fact alone, a non-starter.
that little fact says it all.
if you will recall, a few months back when I was asking everyone to re-examine the very basis of the healthcare "reform" being pushed, the "47 million" number, they kept throwing out. Just an update, in a recent speech, President Obama himself has adjusted that number to 30 million. I continue to say it is closer to 10-15 million, if you examine the census figures closely.
Posted by: Legion at November 3, 2009 2:53 PM
ENY said it right.
I'm sure E NY is a very eloquent and nice person who smells good but that doesn't change the facts of the bill or prevent politicians from being liars.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at November 3, 2009 2:55 PM
"ch, you're not being very patriotic!"
delepp! Whatever do you mean!?
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 2:57 PM
"Says the woman who didn't want to play "Name That Body Part", Euphemisms for Jerking Off, last Friday!!!!!"
I have my limits, CGar!!
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 2:58 PM
ch, I was being cheneyesque.
Posted by: DeLepp at November 3, 2009 2:59 PM
Do any of you really believe that you can accomplish anything discusssing the healthcare legislation here on the OT???
Most peoples' posting of real estate data is suspect let alone the conditions of this 2,000 page bill.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 3:00 PM
bxgrl,
I hear what you're saying, the US shouldn't meddle so much. I agree to a certain extent. At the same time, you are asking this nation to advocate from a moral highground when the world itself is awash in thuggish dictatorships, theocratic fascist regimes and nations already on the downward slope of a long and difficult decline.
even if we were to go into an isolationist mode, do you not think that our enemies would soon find us here? Just look at the bombings in Jakarta, Mombai, Madrid and London to name a few. Even nations that backed away from a defense of western ideals, like spain, continue to get punished for being western in their make up. This global struggle is far from over, whether we want it to be over or not. Sitting back and ignoring that will only lead us to worse place.
Posted by: Legion at November 3, 2009 3:00 PM
Legion- then we have a lot of fiscal crap to cut in other areas and make health care for everyone a real priority, don't you think? Maybe force Halliburton to pay taxes? As it is i don't think you are giving an accurate full assessment of the bill- and I don't think any of us will convince the other. The major question is what are the priorities going to be for this country?
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 3:01 PM
"I'm sure E NY is a very eloquent and nice person who smells good"
He seems to be smelling a Yankee Championship, so I sure hope he smells good.
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 3, 2009 3:01 PM
delepp, You should know better than to mention his name around me!! ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 3:01 PM
Can we please talk about cats? Or sex? Do I hear recipes?
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 3:02 PM
Very few countries had more of a thuggish government than the US had for the 8 years prior to Obama.
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 3, 2009 3:02 PM
joe from brooklyn is right.
Posted by: Legion at November 3, 2009 3:03 PM
Do any of you really believe that you can accomplish anything discusssing the healthcare legislation here on the OT???
Most peoples' posting of real estate data is suspect let alone the conditions of this 2,000 page bill.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 3:00 PM
Oh well, I tried Dave...
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at November 3, 2009 3:04 PM
"[cripes! CANNOT believe I'm saying this stuff today!]"
Cobble!!!! What has gotten in you today? Or are you hoping something will later?
Posted by: Expert Textpert at November 3, 2009 3:04 PM
too early for "Go Chargers"?
Posted by: DeLepp at November 3, 2009 3:05 PM
Dave, interesting Newsweek article suggests that the run-up since March in stocks, gold, oil, housing prices, etc., is an "echo bubble" waiting to burst if history is any guide:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/220402
What do you think?
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 3:05 PM
I thought we already were talking about sex!
OOOH, you mean chads like the ballot kind!! Pardon me, I misunderstood! : P
Help me out with my Chicken soup, CGar. I've simmered a whole chicken with celery, leeks, parsley and thyme. The chicken was falling apart, so I figure it's done. It's cooling in a bowl. I strained the stock, and I'm cooking that down a bit. Now...can I cook the stock down for an hour or 2 to concentrate it? Or will it get 'funky'?
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 3:06 PM
By the time Newsweek gets hold of any market news it's usually a sign to do the opposite.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 3:07 PM
"Or are you hoping something will later?"
I KNOW Expert! I'm shocking myself!
Uh, I think something got into me this morning!
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 3:07 PM
"Can you wow our guests and make them relaxed and comfortable?"
Job Openings at the Standard Hotel. And the positions aren't in front of the windows.
http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/tfr/1444557836.html
Posted by: Expert Textpert at November 3, 2009 3:08 PM
"Uh, I think something gt into me this morning!"
um, Cobble...excuse me, pardon me, but I think, ah-hem, that you just admitted to having a good breakfast.
Posted by: Expert Textpert at November 3, 2009 3:10 PM
Legion- I would not want this country to ignore this at all. But we certainly need to go about promoting democracy in a much more intelligent way than done by the Bush Administration-certainly it didn't improve conditions in Iraq very much. Changed the leadership- but that's about it.
The thing we forget is that we were founded on certain basic principles that we have lived by and believed in for over 200 years. We are educated about them, the Constitution is part and parcel of our daily life and our concept of government. We should not assume other countries will readily accept democracy, even if we depose their monarchs, dictators and despots. We need to get much more real about what we expect and what they expect. And while we love to think everyone wants democracy - in truth, many people pay it lip service but have no clue what is involved in actually living in a democracy- especially not those theocratic fascist countries you speak of.
Can you honestly see Iraq or Iran or Afghanistan becoming democracies? First ask them to give women equal rights. Ask them if other sects will be allowed to openly practice their faith without retaliation. Ask them if they understand the concept that the Bill of Rights is what protects the rights of the minority from the oppression of the Majority. If they can't grasp these concepts on a real, personal, everyday level, democracy won't take root. Look how long this country has taken to come to terms with the fact that gay men and women are entitled to the same civil rights as everyone else- including civil marriage? And even we aren't there yet. We're fighting to keep the right of women to make decisions about their own bodies- how can we possibly march into Iraq and tell them to be a democracy?
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 3:13 PM
"Now...can I cook the stock down for an hour or 2 to concentrate it? Or will it get 'funky'?"
Cobble, YOU are asking a goy about chicken soup? I honestly don't know about concentrating it. I concur about the chicken being done. But, you're at the point where My People put the pot in the fridge (or the freezer, but don't forget about it because you don't want the soup to freeze in the pot) so the fat congeals at the top, making it easy to skim (or scrape) off. Then we pour (or ladle) the soup into Ziploc Freezer Bags (TM), which we then place on a flat surface (use a cookie sheet if need be) in the freezer, so all you have to do is peel off the Ziploc and heat the soup when you have a cold or Passover comes around.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 3:14 PM
True enough, Dave, but still an interesting article
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 3:15 PM
Cobble- whatever you're drinking, save me some :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 3:16 PM
"you just admitted to having a good breakfast."
Exactly, that's what I meant Expert, I had a fantastic breakfast!
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 3:20 PM
There's nothing like morning sex . . . except make-up sex perhaps
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 3:22 PM
"I had a fantastic breakfast"
Sausage apparently
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 3:22 PM
bxgrl,
sure we can ask these things of people. you must know that Islam itself give many rights to women that would make these fascist imams cringe. There is a long history of strong women in Persia and throughout the middle east. what has developed in these middle eastern countries over the past hundred years is an abberation.
Turkey is a functioning muslim democracy for one. I disagree that things are the same in Iraq. for one thing, women now vote and participate in government. for another, women are involved in their communities to a much greater extent, particularly the formerly oppressed Shiite women. The Khurds in the north are no longer being gassed with chemical weapons and we have a dialogue with the government of Iraq.
Iran, recently had a failed revolution. People are chaffing at the bit there, they love the USA. I know people from Iran personally, some who escaped in the past 20 years. I personally know an Iranian Jew with a hell of a story about life there under the Ayatollahs.
sure these people want democracy, because as all of us here in the US know, it is inherent to being human to want to have the freedom to assert oneself and dream.
bxgrl, don't forget Tienamen, or more recently the Orange revolution in Ukraine.
Posted by: Legion at November 3, 2009 3:24 PM
CGar, I'm skimming it. I have a fat separator/strainer cup. — well worth the investment. I'm going to try to cook it down to almost half the volume. I'm freezing half the meat for something next week — maybe like a Chicken tetrazini thing? It think I may still end up freezing some of the stock. I'm totally going full Mimi Method there — it's brilliant!
So then, can I just saute the onion, carrot, celery and then add stock and meat. & maybe egg noodles? What if I add a little lemon juice?
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 3:27 PM
"sure these people want democracy, because as all of us here in the US know, it is inherent to being human to want to have the freedom to assert oneself and dream."
I totally agree but I'll still point out something to you. We didn't invade turkey, or Persia (I strongly believe democracy will prevail there because the people do want it)- democracy wasn't forced on them. China is changing- there is no doubt- but no matter Tienanmen Sq., we aren't invading them. But Change has definitely come to China.
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 3:30 PM
ewwww, cobble- lemon juice?? nooooooo.....
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 3:32 PM
"Gar, I'm skimming it. I have a fat separator/strainer cup. — well worth the investment"
So do I. But even better, I have a special straining ladle. (I'll show it to you. You'll want it.)
I prefer using the chicken salad, but my mother used to make chicken crepes or chicken blintzes (what she called them depended on how Jewish she was feeling on a given day).
To what end do you want to saute all that stuff? If you're thinking of sauteeing the veggies from the soup, aren't they too far gone for that already?
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 3:32 PM
someone wanted sex....well in the illegal dumping thread rob invited me to meet him behind the dumpster. i'm so flattered, but i'm out of cialis. what to do.
Posted by: randolph at November 3, 2009 3:33 PM
bxgrl,
all the more reason for all of us to vote today. even the lurkers.
Posted by: Legion at November 3, 2009 3:34 PM
"chicken blintzes (what she called them depended on how Jewish she was feeling on a given day)."
LOL! I love it! Must show me the special ladle.
No, I threw out the other veggies, they were all wilty and almost grey! I wanna use a carrot, some more celery and onion, then add the stock [Now 4 quarts - was 5, cooking down to maybe 3 or so.
bxgrl, no? Not kosher? Just a tad? Maybe I'll just put a bit in a cup and test taste?
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 3:40 PM
Rob-Like Rant of the Day
Drivers,
- The highways are clearly marked with exit signs and indicate the distance until that exit.
DO NOT WAIT till the last possible moment to go from the left hand lane to take the exit in the right hand lane, cutting people off, causing me to break to avoid hitting you.
- Look in your blind spot before changing lanes. I might be there. AND for Sh*t's sake, SIGNAL before changing lanes to alert other drivers of your intentions.
Posted by: Expert Textpert at November 3, 2009 3:41 PM
"Sausage apparently"
I'll be good and refrain from the obvious comment!
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 3:42 PM
cobble- I tried the artistic chicken soup route- suffice to say not a good choice. I've also added white wine and once, cognac. Interesting- I liked it. But maybe I was too drunk to care :)
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 3:44 PM
Please don't refrain Cobble. You're on a roll today. Someone has to be raunchy in THL's absence.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 3:45 PM
"I tried the artistic chicken soup route- suffice to say not a good choice"
Ok, I'll skip the lemon juice. But egg noodles should be good, no?
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 3:45 PM
[editor's note: The devil made me do it!]
"Sausage apparently"
Well, it sure as heck wasn't clams!!
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 3:47 PM
I agree Expert, people that don't signal are not only rude, they are dangerous!
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 3:48 PM
Well, Sausage & Clams to be precise
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 3:50 PM
i'm waiting rob...
Posted by: randolph at November 3, 2009 3:52 PM
I'm having a very interesting "father and son" role play chat on Yahoo IM with someone.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 3:54 PM
You know Congressman Ron Paul (R Texas) introduced a great anti-corruption bill that no one besides maybe Dennis Kucinich and a few others that can actually say the term "public" service" with a straight face is talking about.
It states that any company that has a contract w/ the Fed gov't cannot lobby the Fed gov't for the duration of the contract. Makes sense, don't it?
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at November 3, 2009 3:55 PM
"I'm having a very interesting "father and son" role play chat on Yahoo IM with someone."
PL of the day (after BILL THOMPSON!!!)
Posted by: randolph at November 3, 2009 3:59 PM
Strain your broth through cheesecloth & then you can reduce it as much as you want - I get mine so concentrated it just fills an ice cube tray (down from a gallon) & I can use one ice cube for a sauce. It's the bits of meat, marrow , etc. that make the stock bitter during boiling so once that's strained out you can go full steam ahead.
Posted by: Arkady at November 3, 2009 4:01 PM
The reasons for the Iraq war were Bush's desire to be macho & one-up his father & Cheney's bloodlust & desire to give a ton of money to Halliburton. It got us nothing except a lot of hate & a massive deficit. It got the Iraq citizenry more unsettled & schismatic & poverty-stricken.
Posted by: Arkady at November 3, 2009 4:04 PM
"I'm having a very interesting "father and son" role play chat on Yahoo IM with someone."
Or you the father or are you talking to Abe Vigoda?
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 3, 2009 4:09 PM
^^^^^
First time DIBS was ever asked, "are you the father?"
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 3, 2009 4:09 PM
LOL, Biff...he asked if mommy was going to be home tonight.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 4:11 PM
Uh-oh, I don't have any cheese cloth! Could I use a clean napkin type cloth?
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 4:12 PM
The Closing bell is asking for "Gentrification Indicators,"
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 4:14 PM
Sure, a cloth towel will work. Who the hell has cheesecloth at hand all the time?? And parchment paper??? MArtha??? Ina???? That nerd from Cook's Illustrated????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 3, 2009 4:15 PM
I just did it, cool, it worked fine! Thanks Arkady! Thanks DIBS!
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 4:18 PM
I always keep cheese cloth - good for making little packets of herbs so you don't have to pick them out.
I think even coffee filter will work.
Posted by: Arkady at November 3, 2009 4:18 PM
I keep parchment around, but that's because I bake a lot.
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 4:20 PM
"LOL, Biff...he asked if mommy was going to be home tonight"
LOL, Dave. I see where this is going.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 4:24 PM
Is Abe "Fish" Vigoda really still alive? How is that even possible?
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 4:26 PM
Expert sexpert, I agree. What is it with American's aversion to indicators. Or tunrn siganls, or flashy lights, call it what you want.
I blame it on american car manufacturers making the indicators red, like the brake lights, instead of obvious- orange, effectively dampening down any safety advantages gained from visibilty. If you can't really tell if the car is indicating left, whats the point?
And while were at it, did Bill Tompkins say he's going to ban stadium-floodlight-bright halogen headlamps for passenger cars when he's mayor? If he is, I'll change my vote.
Posted by: dittoburg at November 3, 2009 4:38 PM
I agree re bright headlights, ditto. So dangerous for other drivers, & inconsiderate.
Posted by: etson at November 3, 2009 4:45 PM
c-gar, big pharma is why abe is still alive and kicking.
Posted by: DeLepp at November 3, 2009 4:46 PM
I'm short-tempered today.
Posted by: dittoburg at November 3, 2009 4:51 PM
"Abe Vigoda Status:
Abe Vigoda is alive
Page loaded Tuesday November 3 2009 1:50:00 PM PT
Reload page for update"
http://www.abevigoda.com/
LOL. Another site says "He has been 80 for the past 20 years", though he's actually 88.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 4:53 PM
c-gar, he looked like he was 80 when he was on barney miller.
Posted by: DeLepp at November 3, 2009 4:57 PM
Re Newsweek:
It's hard to imagine we are having a 'bubble' in equities. We are still 40% from the Dow's high. We are still more than 50% down on the Nasdaq, more like 60% adjusted for inflation. You are still in the red in equities for the last decade. That's hardly a bubble. A bubble was when a guy writes a book called 'dow 30,000' when it's a third of that.
Perhaps there's a bubble in gold, perhaps in t-bills. Perhaps not.
To me, one thing that defines a bubble is the ability to rapidly create more assets to feed the bubble. When demand crashes, so do the assets since there is an excess of supply.
In the US, we have tons of available land that can, and was, developed for housing. We fed the bubble until it burst. We can always feed an equities bubble by bringing more companies public, but that's not happening to a great extant now. It could easily enuf.
Oil is a different story. While to my knowledge there have been a handful of major discoveries recently, they are all deep sea or Arctic. Unless oil stays over $70/bbl, they will not be recovered. The fact is that we have run out of easily recoverable oil, what is left is in the Middle East and cartel-controlled. It makes no difference whether we have seen 'peak oil' or not, clearly it is coming, and within most of our lifetimes.
While some analysts scream that the 'fair value' of oil is $55/bbl, I don't think so. The recent crash to $35/bbl was driven by panic, just as the crash in equities was. So it is natural that oil has recovered just as equities have.
Therefore, oil is not like housing, no one is making more of it. Personally I would like to see oil in the $85/bbl range. Not high enuf to destroy Western economies, but high enuf to allow the new sources to be tapped, while science works on alternatives for the long term.
The difference today is, of course, that if you believe there is a 'bubble' in oil, housing, or equities, there are financial instruments available to anyone with a brokerage account that will allow you to cash in on the popping of this mini-bubble he's taking about in Newsweek. I'd like to see if he's invested that way himself, or, like our very own What, he doesn't put his money where his mouth is.
Posted by: denton at November 3, 2009 4:58 PM
"I blame it on american car manufacturers making the indicators red, like the brake lights, instead of obvious- orange, effectively dampening down any safety advantages gained from visibilty. If you can't really tell if the car is indicating left, whats the point?"
Ditto, the DOT stringently regulates automobile lighting. Speaking of oil, it took years for the DOT to allow car makers to use different lighting for each car so that the cars could be made aerodynamic. Europe, as usual, was way ahead of us. Remember those hokey round lights on every car?
Posted by: denton at November 3, 2009 5:01 PM
"c-gar, he looked like he was 80 when he was on barney miller"
So true, DeLepp!
ditto, me too - I just attacked stevieb on the Last Week's Biggest Sales thread, and I never do things like that
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 5:05 PM
I am still wiping tears of laughter from my eyes- the What is a hero??
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 5:29 PM
bxgrl, in some juandiced eyes so was jim jones!
Posted by: DeLepp at November 3, 2009 5:40 PM
yes, bx, just the thought that there was someone out there about to go to contract on a house and then said, "uh oh, the what says not to buy," and then withdraws the offer. There must be thousands of them out there just killing the market. Gives me nightmares just thinking about it. ;)
Posted by: slopefarm at November 3, 2009 5:42 PM
DeLepp- good point. I guess Hitler was too -oh no! I just invoked Godwin. Darn. When will I learn? :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 5:42 PM
At least Jim Jones made great Kool-Aid! (DeLepp, you should pop in to Last Week's Biggest Sales - scroll down)
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 5:42 PM
A hero for every nut, or is it a nut for every hero?
Posted by: DeLepp at November 3, 2009 5:44 PM
CarGar- do you think stevie drank it? I wonder if he worships Zenu?
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 5:45 PM
ROFL, Slopey! My thoughts exactly.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 5:47 PM
Hola again losers! I trust you all ran out and voted for me with zeal? No? DAMN YOU! :-) It's ok. Really...I actually voted for the RENT IS TOO DAMNED HIGH guy!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 5:52 PM
I voted for you Snappy! But I'll admit I was very tempted to vote for the Rent is too damn high guy! ; )
***Snappy for Mayor*** (TODAY!)
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 5:57 PM
LOL Cobble :-) I fell to that temptation! Of course I first had to go online and look up his name so I'd know who the hell I was voting for!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 6:00 PM
Check out his website...he's got a Barry White voice thing and his OWN song/music outlining his platform! LOVE IT!
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 6:05 PM
Hopefully either he or I can pull off a last minute win :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 6:07 PM
OMG that song is hysterical!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 6:08 PM
Isn't that the GREATEST!!
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 6:12 PM
Have my fingers crossed. If you win Queen of the US I have to upgrade the tiara.
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 6:12 PM
Hmmmm yes, a new tiara indeed! Tanzanite and diamonds please :)
I'm still listening to the Rent is Too Damn High song! It's catchy :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 6:14 PM
I can't wait to play it for BH!
He's kind of channeling a little Barry and George Clinton, no?
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 6:18 PM
can't hear it. :( Next year I'm voting for the "Captioning on the internet for everyone!"
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 6:18 PM
I'm playing for the 3rd time!! LOL!!
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 6:20 PM
LOL Cobble! So true. I don't know whether to use it as 'gettin booty' music or if I should just start dancing !
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 6:22 PM
Bxgirl, maybe youtube has a version with the words?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 6:23 PM
Direct quote from the site:
We treasure the needs of the people.
1. Roof over your “Head” (Homeless/ Housing Crisis)
2. Food on your “Table” (Hunger Crisis)
3. Money in your “Pocket” (Jobless Crisis)
In other words this is a Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner campaign.
How much do you love this?
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 6:26 PM
If I weren't already emarried, I'd make a pass at him :)
Posted by: bxgrl at November 3, 2009 6:28 PM
I suppose not too many folks take him seriously or else he'd have a larger, more noticeable following.
(I'm still singing and chair dancing to the song!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 6:30 PM
Apparently, he's been at this since the early 90s! How have I missed this??!!
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 6:34 PM
I have heard of the RENT IS TOO DAMN HIGH platform before...a few years ago I think, but I never paid any attention to it. He needs to raise money and buy commercial time. I can see it now...the song playing in the background while the words go across the screen with one of those bouncing balls to guide you along!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 6:36 PM
I have to take my leave now, though hopefully not of my senses, although that's debatable given my behavior on the Last Week's Biggest Sales thread this afternoon. Going to stuff the ballot box for Mayor Snappy right after I walk the CDog. (Feel free to resume your discussion of waxing now, ladies.)
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 6:39 PM
"the song playing in the background while the words go across the screen with one of those bouncing balls to guide you along!"
Nobody else has a great tune! If you scroll down there are videos too!
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 6:39 PM
Oh, before I forget...good news! My scale was off and Hari actually gained 2 lbs! He's now 4.5 lbs. And he got an anti-tapeworm shot today that started working almost immediately (very gross, but a good thing).
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 6:41 PM
Dang, I missed the videos! Gotta go back (I finally turned off the song!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 6:42 PM
Nite Cargar! We'll wait to have the remainder of the waxing discussion tomorrow so you don't miss a hair of the convo!
Ha! (I crack myself up sometimes)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 6:43 PM
GREAT news, Snappy! You're an excellent mom!
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 6:43 PM
Thankfully Hari seems to think so, too! Strange little boy loves the vet. He likes to play on the exam table and snuggle up to the vet and demand to be held.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 6:46 PM
That's VERY cute! Silly kitty! I'm so glad, it must be a huge relief!
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 3, 2009 6:51 PM
I have to take my leave now, though hopefully not of my senses, although that's debatable given my behavior on the Last Week's Biggest Sales thread this afternoon. Going to stuff the ballot box for Mayor Snappy right after I walk the CDog. (Feel free to resume your discussion of waxing now, ladies.)
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 6:39 PM
****
CG, you surprised me in the last week's biggest sales thread. What came over you? You were quite vicious to me.
Posted by: stevieb at November 3, 2009 6:52 PM
Huge relief indeed. Now I just need to ween him off being rocked to sleep! (very big mistake on my part getting him used to that)
All right...time to put my feet up. Nite!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 6:54 PM
stevie, you led the attacks against 11217 pretty viciously, and I thought that was uncalled for. And for the umpteenth time, I really don't appreciate your October 29th post, though this doesn't seem to register with you.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at November 3, 2009 6:57 PM
KAPOW!!!
**cracking Cargar across the knuckles with a ruler**
LAST ONE OUT IS SUPPOSED TO TURN OFF THE LIGHTS DAMMIT! SHAME ON YOU!
**click**
nitey nite!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at November 3, 2009 7:49 PM
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added November 18, 2009 12:00 PM in Williamsburg -
Mr. Wonton
added November 17, 2009 12:00 PM in Park Slope -
Casa Rosa
added November 16, 2009 12:00 PM in Carroll Gardens -
Cousin John's Café & Bakery
added November 13, 2009 12:00 PM in Park Slope -
Elote
added November 12, 2009 12:00 PM in Williamsburg -
Miracle Grill
added November 11, 2009 12:00 PM in Park Slope -
Phoebe's Cafe
added November 10, 2009 12:00 PM in Williamsburg -
Ruthie's
added November 9, 2009 12:00 PM in Clinton Hill, Downtown Brooklyn
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