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November 5, 2009
Development Watch: 580 Carroll Gets Its Glass On
One of the defining features of the controversial development 580 Carroll Street, its angled glass windows, has started to come into focus. Over the past few weeks glass has gone up on the Garfield Place side of the Enrique Norten-designed building, above, as well as on a small section of the Carroll Street part of the structure. A BSA hearing later this month will likely decide whether the increased density the developer is gunning for on the Carroll side—which would result in the glass wall reaching the sidewalk rather than being set back considerably and fronted by small yards, as in an older version of the design—will come to pass.
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Slope Rallies Against 580 Carroll, Rags on the BSA [Brownstoner]
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CB6 Doesn't Buy Carroll Street Hardship Claim [Brownstoner]
580 Carroll Developer Trying to Supersize Norten Project [Brownstoner]
Development Watch: 580 Carroll Street [Brownstoner] GMAP
Enrique Norten-Designed Project in Park Slope Revealed [Brownstoner]
Four Developments Coming to One Stretch of Carroll [Brownstoner]
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I walked by this yesterday morning and its looking REALLY nice. This will be head and shoulders better than any other development in the immediate neighborhood. Kudos to the developer for sticking with Ten Architectos. They didn't cheap out and strip the building down when the economics changed. Hopefully there is some middle ground solution so that they can get a little relief from the BSA otherwise I fear others will be less likely to take the chance on significant architecture again. On the other hand, if they get relief, they set a bad precedent for other (less aesthetically concious) developers to get bailed out of their bad development decisions. Tough one.
Posted by: HDL at November 5, 2009 2:45 PM
i walk passed this almost everyday. i have mixed feelings about it. maybe it will look a lot better when done? the front rooms of which these windows are part of i cant figure out what they are. they are tiny. are they enclosed sun porches?
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at November 5, 2009 2:49 PM
Looks good. Better in this photo than in the renderings.
Posted by: etson at November 5, 2009 2:49 PM
This is going to be a special building and piece of modern architecture. The couple people I know who work in the field rave about the design of this building.
I was impressed with it (so far) when I walked by last weekend.
Posted by: 11217 at November 5, 2009 2:54 PM
quote:
The couple people I know who work in the field rave about the design of this building.
triple :-/
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at November 5, 2009 3:02 PM
let's have some good design and interesting buildings
plenty of brownstones and brick around, lots of fischer and scarano solutions bravo enrique!
Posted by: BK realestate veteran at November 5, 2009 3:28 PM
I like the name of the construction company -
certainly better than, "Nuthin Construction Co.".
Posted by: kelly at November 5, 2009 5:44 PM
I AM WONDERING IF THIS IS NOT A CASE OF GOOD BUILDING IN THE WRONG PLACE.
WHEN THE PROSPECTIVE BUYERS ARE GIVEN A WALL OF WINDOWS I THINK THEY ARE HOPING TO HAVE A VIEW, IT SEEMS TO ME THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE MORE CONCERNED WITH PRIVACY ISSUES. TOO CLOSE TO OTHERS TO BE APPRECIATED I THINK.
PERHAPS A FAMILY OF GERBILS OR HAMSTERS. IT JUST RESEMBLES A FANCY
STACK OF AQUARIUMS. THE GARFIELD/CARROLL ST TERRARIUM.
ON THE BRIGHT SIDE THE BROKERS CAN USE THIS
ANGLE FOR A SALES PITCH. THE DEVELOPERS SPENT ALOT OF MONEY ON THE FOUNDATION AND CONCRETE STRUCTURE, VERY STRONG, VERY EXPENSIVE. SO
IF YOU BUY INTO THIS BUILDING TODAY AT TODAYS PRICES, WHEN THE APOCALYPSE
OCCURS AND EVERYTHING THEY HAVENT DAMAGED FALLS THE OWNERS WILL BE GUARANTEED THE BEST VIEWS. HURRY BUYERS AND SECURE YOUR GLASS BUBBLE TODAY.
Posted by: TOO COOL at November 5, 2009 7:10 PM
IF PARK SLOPE IS NOTED FOR ITS BROWNSTONES AND BRICK. PEOPLE BUY PARK SLOPE FOR THIS REASON. BK REAL ESTATE VETERAN HAS BEEN IN THE WRONG BUSINESS TOO LONG. LIKE TO SEE ANYONE PUT THIS SQUARE PEG IN THIS ROUND HOLE.
Posted by: TOO COOL at November 5, 2009 7:23 PM
HEY HDL ONE WORD SIMPLISTIC.... THIS IS THE MOST SIMPLISTIC DESIGN I HAVE SEEN
STRIP DOWN WHAT????? IT IS A SHELL... AND THAT FENCE ON CARROLL ST. WHEN DID MAGNIFICENT ARCHITECTURE BECOME SIMPLE DESIGN... I KNOW WHEN----- WHEN THESE DEVELOPERS FOUND CHEAP. THE ARCHITECT MAY HAVE BEEN INSPIRED, BUT HE IS SPENDING THIER MONEY. I THINK THEY MISSED WITH THAT FENCE.. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THE GARBAGE FROM THE BUILDING WILL DO FOR THE DESIGN WHEN IT IS PILED OUT IN FRONT OF IT ON PICK UP DAY...
Posted by: TOO COOL at November 5, 2009 8:50 PM
TOO COOL,
WHEN YOU WRITE IN ALL CAPS IT READS AS IF YOU ARE SHOUTING WHICH IS RIDICULOUS GIVEN THE CONTENT.
OKAY I HAVE TO GO BACK TO WORK NOW.
Posted by: young archi at November 6, 2009 1:27 PM
sorry didnt mean to scare you. didnt realize my cap lock was activated. silly mistake.
not as costly as the mistake you guys are building though. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.
Posted by: TOO COOL at November 6, 2009 6:14 PM
The glass views on Carroll will be the back of a few of the tenements there. I wouldnt think that is something the new owners would want to look at.
On the other hand, living in the tenements it might be fun to watch all the new tennants in thier cages......walking back and forth.
Oh, and how do you clean the walls of glass from the outside... what good is a view with dirty windows??????
Posted by: STARGAZER at November 19, 2009 9:34 AM

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