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October 27, 2009
StreetLevel: Pediatrics Office Coming to 4th Ave
Premier Pediatrics, which, according to its website, already has two locations in Brooklyn, will be opening an office in the rental at 110 4th Avenue, on the corner of Warren Street. It's nice to see a ground-floor tenant of any stripe in a new 4th Avenue building.
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am i the only one who things pediatricians are perverts?
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 27, 2009 2:07 PM
Walked by here the other night and was nicely surprised to see almost all the units looked occupied with many lights on.
Also saw that retail space and was wondering what was coming in.
This building doesn't look terrible in person and was thinking how nice it is to be adding all these people along this corridor even if some of the buildings farther down leave a lot to be desired in the aesthetics department.
This one's ok. I bet it's a nice place to rent.
Posted by: 11217 at October 27, 2009 2:08 PM
i dont know about that 11217. a nice place to rent? ick. why would someone want to live in a building whose commercial ground floor tenant was a infirmatory for sickly children?! the elevator buttons would be covered in swine flu!
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 27, 2009 2:13 PM
Why would the children be using the elevator when the office on the first floor? They won't even be entering in the same door the tenants do, most likely.
I think a doctors office is a nice tenant to have. I wouldn't mind it one bit.
Your aversion to all things kids is weird. I know you don't want any, but the world must go on.
Posted by: 11217 at October 27, 2009 2:16 PM
"the elevator buttons would be covered in swine flu!"
I don't think one needs to take an elevator to the doctor's office on the ground floor.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 27, 2009 2:16 PM
Oops, 11217 beat me to it.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 27, 2009 2:17 PM
well the nasty germs will cirulate thru the vents and stuff.
quote:
Your aversion to all things kids is weird.
you know, it's not really kids im averse to. it's their parents.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 27, 2009 2:18 PM
"I think a doctors office is a nice tenant to have. I wouldn't mind it one bit."
For parents with sick kids in the building, it's a big bonus, actually. I guess that's where Rob's theory kicks in. Although the average number of sick kids pushing buttons in this building shouldn't be different than in any other building in the city.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 27, 2009 2:19 PM
And p.s. If you ride the subway, you are more exposed to swine flu than a very clean doctors office.
Posted by: 11217 at October 27, 2009 2:19 PM
"well the nasty germs will cirulate thru the vents and stuff."
Nasty germs circulate thru stuff more so than thru vents.
Posted by: Tara in the Slope at October 27, 2009 2:23 PM
And all doc offices have to have separate ventilation & meet other sanitary codes. At the very least, it's not a real estate office.
Posted by: Arkady at October 27, 2009 2:23 PM
quote:
And p.s. If you ride the subway, you are more exposed to swine flu than a very clean doctors office.
not true. dont make stuff up.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 27, 2009 2:25 PM
How is it not true, Rob?
Are you hanging out in pediatricians offices?
If no, then you are exposed to swine flu on a daily basis on the train.
I'm not sure why you are so concerned with a place you will never set foot in.
Posted by: 11217 at October 27, 2009 2:28 PM
who said i was concerned? im not. i just think it's gross to have housing on top of a giant germ box. ick.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 27, 2009 2:33 PM
Meh. 4th Ave needs retail, not doctors' offices!
Posted by: zinka at October 27, 2009 2:33 PM
Rob;
But at least you don't have to worry about 100 years of roach feces behind the wall, which was your concern with old homes yesterday.
Posted by: benson at October 27, 2009 2:35 PM
i think 4th avenue is only zoned for doctor type offices unfortunately. honestly tho, just how much retail can one area need? there's already too much retail in park slope.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 27, 2009 2:35 PM
Not to nitpick, but the original post isn't correct. They don't have 2 offices in Brooklyn already. They have one in Brooklyn and one in Manhattan. They are closing their 7th Ave office next to Methodist and moving to this new location.
Posted by: ppwgall at October 27, 2009 2:36 PM
Zinka,
I'm just curious what, in your opinion 4th Avenue needs?
When people ask me what else this area needs, I usually draw a blank. We have miles and miles of retail along 5th Avenue, Flatbush, Atlantic Avenue, Smith Street, 7th Avenue, etc in this general area (many with boarded up storefronts).
What exactly do you think we need here?
I can perhaps think of something I want, but definitely nothing necessary comes to mind which can't be found within about a 10 minute walk already...
Posted by: 11217 at October 27, 2009 2:37 PM
I think this is the nicest looking building on 4th, by a mile.
Zinka, I keep saying it, the ground floor space in the new buildings on 4th Ave are zoned for 'community service' only. You won't see any retail in any of them.
Posted by: denton at October 27, 2009 2:37 PM
I think this is the nicest looking building on 4th, by a mile.
Zinka, I keep saying it, the ground floor space in the new buildings on 4th Ave are zoned for 'community service' only. You won't see any retail in any of them.
Posted by: denton at October 27, 2009 2:38 PM
Rob, it is zoned for retail.
Posted by: zinka at October 27, 2009 2:39 PM
"I think this is the nicest looking building on 4th, by a mile"
100% agreed.
Posted by: benson at October 27, 2009 2:39 PM
denton, unfortunately, you are wrong on this and I have tried to correct you several times before. It's simply NOT TRUE. The zoning is R8A with a C2-4 overlay. C2-4 permits retail. Look it up if you don't believe me.
Posted by: zinka at October 27, 2009 2:39 PM
Denton doesn't even have the term right. What he thinks he means is "community facility," not "community service". But he's wrong, and I wish he'd stop saying this wrong thing over and over again.
Posted by: zinka at October 27, 2009 2:42 PM
Denton;
Zinka is correct. Retail is certainly permitted on 4th Ave. The site on 4th and 6th, which has not even begun construction, is already advertising its retail space.
Posted by: benson at October 27, 2009 2:42 PM
a free food bank on 4th avenue would be nice actually. that would fall within the community service sector! it's mind boggling how little free food is available in park slope.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 27, 2009 2:42 PM
I don't know zinka. I was in direct negotiations with not one but two big 4th Ave developers and this is what I was told. As soon as I see a retail establishment open I will humbly and publicly admit I am wrong.
Posted by: denton at October 27, 2009 2:43 PM
Rob,
So in one breath you hate that people are sucking off the government's teet and now you want free food?
Posted by: 11217 at October 27, 2009 2:44 PM
11217, this immediate area could use a good grocery and some more restaurants and cafes. Sure, there's some stuff on 5th. But more retail space means lower retail rents means more variety of tenants and lower prices for the consumer. At least in theory. Plus, Gorilla has lines out the door!
Posted by: zinka at October 27, 2009 2:44 PM
isnt staples retail? and i think my fav. bodega on 4th ave is retail too. the weave parlor is retail too
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 27, 2009 2:46 PM
"So in one breath you hate that people are sucking off the government's teet and now you want free food?"
I guess free food is okay; free drinks are not.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 27, 2009 2:55 PM
I don't know much about it, but it is true that the only renters I can recall seeing in new 4th ave condo buildings are doctor's offices of one type or another, so what denton is saying makes sense. Otherwise it's quite a coincidence, no?
A grocery store couldn't hurt, nor would a pharmacy. As for restaurants and cafes, I think we're pretty well saturated with everything in park slope. And there are already a few coffee shops on 4th - root hill, and the lyceum, and crooked tail on 3rd.
Posted by: ninethreesix at October 27, 2009 2:57 PM
quote:
So in one breath you hate that people are sucking off the government's teet and now you want free food?
food banks have food that is donated and privately funded. welfare debit food cards are paid for from peoples taxes. big diff!!! food banks generally supply healthy staple foods. welfare debit food cards are often used for soda and doritos
lol.
Posted by: Butterfly at October 27, 2009 2:58 PM
Denton;
Obviously I don't know about your negotiations with the developers, but I think you may be confusing a couple of things. Up until recently, developers in many parts of the city could get a "bonus" of residential square footage they could build if they included some space for a community facility (examples: space for a pre-school; a dormitory for students, etc.). So, during the bubble days many folks were pursuing such a tennant because it made for more space that they could build and sell.
I believe the city recently changed this program because it was found that many developers were abusing it (surprise!).
Posted by: benson at October 27, 2009 2:59 PM
ah! yes pharmacy. this has been mentioned a lot... a duane reade on 4th ave would be great. seriously, it didnt occur to me until 2 weeks ago when i had to get a prescritption filled there are no pharmacies near me. (5th ave and 1st). none that are super close anyway. all the pharmacies near where i live also totally smell like the elderly.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 27, 2009 3:01 PM
Am I the only one who thinks ***Rob*** is really annoying?
Posted by: fsrg at October 27, 2009 3:08 PM
You are not the only one, fsrg.
His first sentence on this thread is a perfect example of his consistent immaturity (and/or ignorance).
Posted by: 11217 at October 27, 2009 3:14 PM
Rob - with your disgust of kids, kid's parents, and old brownstones having cockroach feces behind the walls, it makes perfect sense that you choose to rent in Park Slope
Posted by: dittoburg at October 27, 2009 3:19 PM
oh please 11217, one cant have an opinion on a topic discussed? the topic discussed is a pediatrician moving into a space. and yes i think they are perverts, much like male gynocologists and podiatrists.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 27, 2009 3:20 PM
I think a pharmacy on 4th ave would be GREAT
also - how about a legit bank with a parking lot! - even if it's Chase or Citi.
Posted by: gemini10 at October 27, 2009 3:20 PM
I think ditto's comment above pretty much says it all about Rob.
Posted by: East New York at October 27, 2009 3:22 PM
I know some people on this website think you are funny Rob, but I am not one of them.
The fact that someone could take such pride in their ignorance is not a quality I find admirable.
Many more people in the world think gays are perverts (much more than pediatricians and gynocologists) so I guess that must make you a pervert.
Don't tell me not to make "stuff up" when you do it on every one of your posts.
Posted by: 11217 at October 27, 2009 3:25 PM
i choose to live in park slope to give my dog a better quality of life. lol
seriously
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 27, 2009 3:26 PM
oh and let the drugstore have a parking lot as well!
Posted by: gemini10 at October 27, 2009 3:26 PM
maybe you're right benson.
fsrq, I'm part of the fan club also. And it gets worse every day. Today it seems half the medical profession are perverts.
Posted by: denton at October 27, 2009 3:27 PM
I agree with 11217. I've never encountered anyone who is as proudly, stridently ignorant as Rob.
Posted by: East New York at October 27, 2009 3:28 PM
11217, I didn't want to say that, but the thought crossed my mind.
Posted by: denton at October 27, 2009 3:28 PM
quote:
"Don't tell me not to make "stuff up" when you do it on every one of your posts."
LOL! name ONE thing i have EVER made up. im all real baby. sorry you cant deal with that.
and what prey tell am i "ignorant" about!? you always have to interject claiming the same thing everytime i voice my opinion about something!
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 27, 2009 3:31 PM
Rob, please show us your stats to back up your first post if it's not made up then.
Honestly...I'd rather have an argument with Paris Hilton than with you. Nearly every word out of your mouth is ignorant and uninformed.
You can't even find the freakin' Brownstoner meetups without asking someone to practically hold your hand there.
It's obviously not just me. Seems there is a chorus of people on this thread who find you annoying and ignorant.
Posted by: 11217 at October 27, 2009 3:35 PM
And it's "pray tell"
Posted by: 11217 at October 27, 2009 3:37 PM
Parking lot? No thanks! I live in a city because I want to live in a city, not a suburb!
Posted by: zinka at October 27, 2009 3:39 PM
everytime you call me ignorant you really just wind up sounding like michael jackson. so it just goes in one ear and out the other. i just think of the wig and giggle.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 27, 2009 3:41 PM
> and what prey tell am i "ignorant" about!?
Spelling for starters apparently. Perhaps the shorter list would be things about which are you NOT ignorant.
Posted by: DitmasSnark at October 27, 2009 3:42 PM
No one cares, Rob.
And has been said by me and about 10 other people, your fixation with "the wig" is idiotic.
Posted by: 11217 at October 27, 2009 3:43 PM
zinka - most of BK is set up like a burb
so is Queens and so is staten island and the Bronx for that matter
you wanna live in the city - move to...Manhattan
Posted by: gemini10 at October 27, 2009 3:45 PM
I think Rob did mean "prey tell" in defense of his first statement.
"am i the only one who things pediatricians are perverts?"
Posted by: Tara in the Slope at October 27, 2009 3:45 PM
What I really don't get is how he stays employed when he does nothing all day and there seems to be a large field of qualified candidates for most jobs these days.
Posted by: denton at October 27, 2009 3:46 PM
g10, I would argue that Brownstone Brooklyn (not the rest) was never intended to be 'like a burb' and that in fact its very urban-ness is what attracts Manhattanites and others who would prefer not to have their life revolve around the automobile.
Posted by: denton at October 27, 2009 3:50 PM
ROB - get a kid, go to a pediatrician, and see if you they are perverts. many many are women, who as a gender are not typically known for having perverted feelings towards babies, toddlers and kids! and anyway, the mom or dad is always in the room. also, a lot of gynecologists are women, many with their own families. geez! what the hell?
Posted by: wine lover at October 27, 2009 3:50 PM
no rob, look it up!
Prey is not the English version of pray. They have separate and distinct meanings, and tara has made fun of the unintended meaning of your usage.
Posted by: denton at October 27, 2009 3:52 PM
What I really don't get is how he stays employed when he does nothing all day and there seems to be a large field of qualified candidates for most jobs these days.
Posted by: denton at October 27, 2009 3:46 PM
LOL, seems to be a lot of those on here.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 27, 2009 3:52 PM
This is the reason employers now ask for graduate degrees for jobs that used to be filled by HS grads. Seems like many college grads don't know English, and worse, don't even care about knowing it.
Posted by: denton at October 27, 2009 3:54 PM
11217, you are arguing with everyone today, not just me. Have you tried psychiatric counseling? Maybe you should ask for cymbalta on your next trip to the pharmacy. Do you have a lot of anger inside you?
Posted by: stevieb at October 27, 2009 3:55 PM
I sure hope its a speakeasy doctor's office
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 27, 2009 3:56 PM
You know what's more annoying than Rob? People going on for 30 posts about how annoying Rob is.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 27, 2009 3:58 PM
Or a perv.
Posted by: DitmasSnark at October 27, 2009 3:58 PM
stevibe, 11217 gets PMS like clockwork and likes to take it out on people who are different than him
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 27, 2009 3:59 PM
Stevieb:
I only argue with people who seem to have no common sense.
You and Rob are at the top of that list.
Please tell us what made you decide you join Brownstoner today after all this time lurking (which you clearly do or you wouldn't know I have an affiliation with music).
And please do share with the group your reasoning behind canceling your long standing New York Philharmonic subscription because of anonymous comments made by someone on a real estate blog (me).
Posted by: 11217 at October 27, 2009 3:59 PM
"Have you tried psychiatric counseling?"
At this point, I'm thinking Premier Psychiatrics should open here instead of Premier Pediatrics.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 27, 2009 4:01 PM
"stevibe, 11217 gets PMS like clockwork and likes to take it out on people who are different than him"
Amusing considering the fact that you hate children, parents of children, hipsters, people with money, people with ambition, apparently doctors. I forget...who else am I missing...you had a whole list last week of people you hate, Rob.
But continue on Rob. Please enlighten us more about how accepting of people you are and how I hate other people different from me.
Posted by: 11217 at October 27, 2009 4:03 PM
> 11217 gets PMS like clockwork and likes to take it out on people who are different than him
11217, have you taken you meds today yet? Why don't you act like a real man and meet me and Rob in person so we could settle this once a for all, instead of hiding behind your computer like a little girl. Its pathetic, you know?
Posted by: stevieb at October 27, 2009 4:04 PM
The only pathetic thing here is you, Stevieb, I mean dandel.
You're just pissed you're not smart. Don't take that out on me.
Posted by: 11217 at October 27, 2009 4:07 PM
This must be a record for number of posts in a StreetLevel Thread.
So much for thinking who cares about a pediatrics office opening on 4th Ave!
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 27, 2009 4:07 PM
quote:
11217, have you taken you meds today yet? Why don't you act like a real man and meet me and Rob in person so we could settle this once a for all, instead of hiding behind your computer like a little girl. Its pathetic, you know?
okay, i have no clue who you are, but why are you speaking for me? hahaha.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 27, 2009 4:09 PM
Trying to shift gears
Opening a pediatrics office in Park Slope is almost as much of a slam dunk as opening a retirement home in Brooklyn Heights
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 27, 2009 4:09 PM
11217!
actually stevieb joined brownstoner yesterday and his/her first posting was a jab at me on the OT of all places......
Denton - actually it seems to me on a map that MOST of the landmass of brooklyn and Queens features houses and land and greenery and not until you come to the parts that are closest to the city do you find nabes that are more "urban"
anywhoo - I love cars and I love driving and parking my car in Park Slope - woooo hoooooo!!!
Posted by: gemini10 at October 27, 2009 4:10 PM
And maybe if I keep going, Stevieb I can get you to cancel your subscription to Men's Fitness.
That's really my ultimate goal here.
And if I'm REALLY lucky, maybe you'll even cancel your membership to the gym because of me!
Posted by: 11217 at October 27, 2009 4:10 PM
Gemini,
But what on earth could anyone think of to jab at you!!??
I'm dumbfounded!! :))
Posted by: 11217 at October 27, 2009 4:13 PM
ROB - get a kid, go to a pediatrician, and see if you they are perverts. many many are women, who as a gender are not typically known for having perverted feelings towards babies, toddlers and kids! and anyway, the mom or dad is always in the room. also, a lot of gynecologists are women, many with their own families. geez! what the hell?
Posted by: wine lover at October 27, 2009 3:50 PM
Actually a female friend and her younger brother were both molested by their great grandmother. I think that much like domestic violence sexual abuse by women is probably just under-reported due to traditional societal ideas and assumptions about male sexuality/dominance.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at October 27, 2009 4:13 PM
"Why don't you act like a real man and meet me and Rob in person"
Are you guys going to have a street fight? Do it in front of the pediatrics office after they open, so the injured can be treated alongside sneezing, wheezing kids.
Posted by: Tara in the Slope at October 27, 2009 4:14 PM
"Opening a pediatrics office in Park Slope is almost as much of a slam dunk as opening a retirement home in Brooklyn Heights"
Or a rehab in Williamsburg
DH, I dare you to say the retirement home to me face to face next time we pound back PBRs.
:-)
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 27, 2009 4:19 PM
Tara, you are on a roll today. You will fit with the PLUSAs just fine and you should definitely come back to the OT. You keep this going, you'll earn yourself a drink or two at the next meet up.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 27, 2009 4:19 PM
"Why don't you act like a real man and meet me and Rob in person"
Homo or No homo?
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at October 27, 2009 4:21 PM
LOL @ street fight. now im picturing 11217's long blonde wig as a tumbleweave blowing down 4th avenue
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 27, 2009 4:22 PM
"Why don't you act like a real man and meet me and Rob in person so we could settle this once a for all, instead of hiding behind your computer like a little girl. Its pathetic, you know?
the internet tough guy: Real men don't use computers - they get into street fights!
Posted by: dittoburg at October 27, 2009 4:22 PM
The REAL men apparently say crap on a blog, never back up what they say, then disappear to then reappear at a later date with a new screen name.
Posted by: 11217 at October 27, 2009 4:24 PM
I'm only an occasional commenter here, but it strikes me that you all are taking Rob's random, nonsensical statements a little too seriously. It seems more likely to me that he wants to get a rise out of you than that he actually wants to make a serious argument about doctors being pedophiles or whatever. But that's just my 2 cents.
Gemini - Your definition of "urban" seems a little off to me. Yes, the outer parts of Brooklyn are essentially suburban, but the area in question (park slope, brownstone brooklyn in general) is urban by any reasonable definition. You may get around by car, but this is not the case for the vast majority of people in this area, or in brooklyn in general. Just because there are trees and low buildings doesn't mean it's not the city - these are some of the most densely populated neighborhoods in the country. Any area in which walking is the most prominent means of getting around is urban beyond any question.
Posted by: ninethreesix at October 27, 2009 4:25 PM
I'm picturing a street fight ala West Side Story with dramatic music. Maybe we can get the NY Philharmonic to play a couple of scores while the boys scurry around 4th avenue.
Posted by: Tara in the Slope at October 27, 2009 4:26 PM
whoa back up buddy. i did NOT claim that pediatrians are all pedophiles! i only stated they are perverts.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 27, 2009 4:28 PM
> I'm picturing a street fight ala West Side Story with dramatic music.
I'm picturing the ballerina hippos from Fantasia.
Posted by: DitmasSnark at October 27, 2009 4:29 PM
"I'm only an occasional commenter here, but it strikes me that you all are taking Rob's random, nonsensical statements a little too seriously."
936, that's what I always say, but it seems to fall on deaf ears.
Posted by: CGar at October 27, 2009 4:30 PM
I would never fight a brownstoner - undoubtedly they'd show up armed with a salvaged crown molding, and i would leave with a nasty splinter
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 27, 2009 4:30 PM
I'm picturing a street fight ala West Side Story with dramatic music. Maybe we can get the NY Philharmonic to play a couple of scores while the boys scurry around 4th avenue.
Posted by: Tara in the Slope at October 27, 2009 4:26 PM
We could always change "I just met a girl named Maria" to "I (almost) met a girl named Tara"
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at October 27, 2009 4:31 PM
"I'm picturing the ballerina hippos from Fantasia."
LOL!
Posted by: Tara in the Slope at October 27, 2009 4:33 PM
"i would leave with a nasty splinter"
To match your nasty schvincter.
Now put 'em up, bitch!
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 27, 2009 4:34 PM
At the risk of injecting some content into this thread, Benson and Denton are both off on the community facility issue (Denton more so). A Zinka says, the area is zoned for commercial use on the ground floor. However, this building, and many like it utilized the community facility "bonus" to grab extra FAR in return for a community facility use - in this case a pediatrician's office. (You can look it up on their NB application - the ground floor is for retail and community facility use. When they get a CO, it will show up there too.)
The community facility hasn't changed the program - it's still there, ripe for abuse. However, the spate of contextual zonings has eliminated it from those areas that were rezoned - the bonus is not allowed in contextual districts.
So - Fourth Avenue IS zoned for retail, but many developers elected to forego that retail in exchange for additional residential FAR above. Expect your health care and social welfare needs to be well served on Fourth Ave.
As you were.
Posted by: WBer at October 27, 2009 4:35 PM
Don't tell me that WBer was actually discussing the TOPIC of this thread???
Posted by: CGar at October 27, 2009 4:39 PM
"DH, I dare you to say the retirement home to me face to face next time we pound back PBRs."
What's a PBR?
Pushy Brooklyn Retirees
Posted by: Tara in the Slope at October 27, 2009 4:40 PM
"So - Fourth Avenue IS zoned for retail, but many developers elected to forego that retail in exchange for additional residential FAR above. Expect your health care and social welfare needs to be well served on Fourth Ave."
Awesome - I've always wondered about this as its been an ongoing disagreement
So developers sold out the neighborhood so they could build a few extra floors of condos. Sure - doctor's offices and hospitals are nice - but in order to turn 4th Ave into "The park avenue of brooklyn" ground floor retail that is utilized daily would have been nice.
Methadone clinic anyone??
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 27, 2009 4:41 PM
PBR = pathetically bitching(about) Rob
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 27, 2009 4:42 PM
"What's a PBR?
Pushy Brooklyn Retirees"
No, Pain in Bay Ridge.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 27, 2009 4:43 PM
just realized park ave in manhattan is mostly doctor's offices on the ground floor of co-op buildings - maybe that's what they meant!!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 27, 2009 4:44 PM
WB'er;
Thanks for the clarification. However, isn't there some movement underway in the City Council to do away with, or sharply curtail, the community facility bonus, due to its abuse?
Posted by: benson at October 27, 2009 4:44 PM
> So developers sold out the neighborhood so they could
> build a few extra floors of condos.
I'm as shocked as you are, DH. I'm clutching my pearls as we speak.
Posted by: DitmasSnark at October 27, 2009 4:50 PM
"I'm as shocked as you are, DH. I'm clutching my pearls as we speak."
True - I suppose that's quite the "duh" statement.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 27, 2009 4:52 PM
Join us for tomorrow's controversial StreetLevel topic:
Streetlight bulbs changed in Windsor Terrace...
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 27, 2009 4:56 PM
ninethreesix - I agree completely, and making an occasional over-the-top statement in order to be funny or make a point is fine - but it seems like *rob* posts one every 5 minutes and THAT is just annoying....(and pointless)
Posted by: fsrg at October 27, 2009 4:56 PM
"No, Pain in Bay Ridge."
Okay, that doesn't make any sense. It has nothing to do with the topic.
'Pass Biff a Recap' so he can 'Post a Better Response'
Posted by: Tara in the Slope at October 27, 2009 4:57 PM
ninethreesix
gotcha, perhaps my wording is off
But,were you born in BK, or the other boroughs or in NYC with parents born in in the boroughs or NYC with grandparents born in the boroughs or in NYC?
just curious....
Posted by: gemini10 at October 27, 2009 4:57 PM
"Okay, that doesn't make any sense. It has nothing to do with the topic."
I was referring to a particular poster, Tara, not a topic.
But I'm sure you have no idea, since you're so new here.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 27, 2009 5:00 PM
"I was referring to a particular poster, Tara, not a topic."
Is there a poster with the name Pain in Bay Ridge?
Posted by: Tara in the Slope at October 27, 2009 5:16 PM
"Is there a poster with the name Pain in Bay Ridge?"
Not exactly, but that might as well have been her handle.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 27, 2009 5:34 PM
So, what have we learned about 4th Ave apt buildings built under new zoning?
-I was wrong, technically, zoning allows for retail. Which is why you see big signs for retail in front of holes in the ground.
-Zoning also allows increase in FAR for community service needs. Therefore, Boymelgreen and it seems every other developer has elected to take the FAR and trade retail for CS. (I wonder about the Argyle).
-Therefore the end result is the same, and WBer's post is accurate:
"So - Fourth Avenue IS zoned for retail, but many developers elected to forego that retail in exchange for additional residential FAR above. Expect your health care and social welfare needs to be well served on Fourth Ave."
My sense then is that these 'retail' signs are developers fishing for a big box store to come in and sign a long lease with AAA credit. Then the owners who got caught with their pants down in the financial mess can take the lease to the banks and put up a building with no extra FAR.
Posted by: denton at October 27, 2009 5:48 PM
Sounds intriguing. What's her name? I'll look out for her. Sounds like her posts might be interesting to read. Are they confrontational? There's nothing like a good smackdown, like above.
Posted by: Tara in the Slope at October 27, 2009 5:50 PM
fsrg - ok, no argument there.
gemini - Hm.. I can't figure out why that question would be relevant, unless you want to get into the whole "who was here first" thing, which I'm really not interested in. Suffice it to say I was born in NYC. But again, I don't see how that affects this question. All I was pointing out is that, while Brooklyn is obviously less dense than Manhattan (although more populous overall), this region at least is a long way from suburban.
Posted by: ninethreesix at October 27, 2009 6:01 PM
we love Rob because comes up with great oneliners sometimes...so we put up with the rest..
"you know, it's not really kids im averse to. it's their parents."... that was priceless!
Posted by: Petebklyn at October 27, 2009 9:18 PM
Benson - I don't know of any initiative in the Council to change the community facility rule, but I would welcome it. At the very least, it should be a discretionary action with some sort of community oversight. Let the locals decide if they want a pediatrician on every corner!
Denton - "retail" signs on empty lots could be developers fishing. If it says "build to suit", most definitely.
Posted by: WBer at October 28, 2009 9:53 AM
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