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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125632433920204407.html
Federal investigators in the Galleon Group case have requested trading records from a hedge-fund manager who once worked for Steven A. Cohen's SAC Capital Advisors and who employed a cooperating witness in the insider-trading case announced last week, people familiar with the matter say.
The subpoena sent to the hedge-fund manager, Richard Grodin, doesn't suggest wrongdoing. Nor does it suggest that Mr. Cohen -- one of the nation's most well-known and successful hedge-fund managers -- has been implicated in any way, or that he knew about any trading by Mr. Grodin that the U.S. is seeking to examine as part of its continuing case.
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The subpoena, sent in the past week, is the first indication that the circle of trading being examined in the case is broadening.
It also illustrates how traders engulfed in the alleged insider-trading ring had many personal and professional ties, and signals a potential avenue investigators may be following in the burgeoning case. In this instance, Mr. Grodin also employed a former employee of an investor-relations firm who prosecutors say passed along inside information in the case about Google Inc., according to people familiar with the matter.
Mr. Grodin didn't return calls for comment on Friday.
An SAC spokesman said Mr. Grodin left SAC in January 2004 and that Mr. Cohen didn't invest in Mr. Grodin's most-recent fund. Spokesmen for the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Justice Department's U.S. Attorney's Office in Manhattan declined to comment.
In criminal and civil cases, the U.S. has alleged that Galleon hedge-fund founder Raj Rajaratnam was part of an insider-trading ring that also has ensnared a number of corporate executives and employees -- an alleged conspiracy in which Mr. Rajaratnam and executives at blue-chip firms including International Business Machines Corp. and Intel Corp. allegedly connived to profit on Google and other big-name stocks. Mr. Rajaratnam and others involved in the case have said they are innocent.
Mr. Cohen has claimed a special place in the $1.2 trillion hedge-fund industry. He has received $1 billion in pay in some years and he has gained a following for producing annual returns of roughly 15%.
Mr. Cohen runs SAC's main hedge fund and has invested money on behalf of his investors as well as his own money in funds run by former SAC managers. Over the years, Mr. Grodin has worked as a portfolio manager for SAC, as well as a division that invested SAC investors' money. He also ran a separate independent fund in which Mr. Cohen was an investor.
It is unclear which specific trades of Mr. Grodin's and their timing are being sought. The 6-foot-5 Mr. Grodin, 40 years old, took time away from his hedge fund this summer to play in a basketball tournament in Israel, a person familiar with the matter says.
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Raj Rajaratnam, shown with Asha Rajaratnam, is being investigated for his alleged involvement in one of the largest cases of insider trading.
Mr. Grodin and Choo Beng Lee, who has been identified as a cooperating witness in the government's case, have ties that stretch back to the late 1990s when the two worked for SAC, people familiar with the matter say. Mr. Grodin was a portfolio manager and Mr. Lee was an analyst that worked with him.
Several years later, Mr. Grodin broke away from the main SAC fund to work at Sigma, an SAC division, where Mr. Grodin continued to work as a portfolio manager and Mr. Lee continued to serve as an analyst for him. Mr. Lee's lawyer declined to comment.
Mr. Grodin later launched a hedge-fund named Stratix outside of SAC's sphere, in which Mr. Cohen was an investor. At Stratix, Mr. Lee worked for Mr. Grodin for several years, according to people familiar with the matter. Mr. Grodin closed Stratix in December 2007.
Mr. Lee formed his own fund, Spherix with Ali Far, who also has been identified by people close to the probe as another of the government's cooperating witnesses in the case. SAC never invested in Mr. Lee's and Mr. Far's fund.
Around the same time, Mr. Grodin opened another fund, Quadrum Capital. He closed that fund in recent weeks, people close to the situation say. Mr. Far didn't respond to requests for comment.
In March 2009, Messrs. Lee and Far closed their fund, which had posted returns of around 10% for the year, people familiar with the matter say. Some rival hedge-fund managers said shutting the fund amid such good returns aroused suspicions that something was amiss. In the weeks following the closure, Mr. Lee approached Mr. Cohen about rehiring him and was rejected, a person familiar with the matter says.
Another individual who worked as a low-level assistant for Mr. Grodin and with Mr. Lee at Stratix was an individual whom prosecutors now allege passed along inside information regarding Google.
That individual, identified by people familiar with the matter as Shammara Hussain, left Stratix in May 2007 to briefly work for Market Street, a small San Francisco investor-relations firm.
A lawyer for Ms. Hussain, 23, who hasn't been named or charged by prosecutors, said her client intends to cooperate and that she "didn't ask for or receive money in connection with conversations about Google. Whatever happened was a naive mistake," the lawyer says.
Posted by: dandel at October 26, 2009 9:18 AM
Oh my....
Posted by: tybur6 at October 26, 2009 9:22 AM
Dandel's MO seems vaguely familiar. (Scratches head to think whether the extensive cutting and pasting and obsession with hedge fund fraud brings anything to mind.) Hmm, maybe it will come to me later.
Posted by: slopefarm at October 26, 2009 9:22 AM
Did you have money with Galleon, dandel???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 9:23 AM
True, slopefarm but missing the "I-Beam up the rear end" commentary.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 9:25 AM
I don't care about hedge funds at all... though I actually like the term "hedge fund" -- sounds a lot more interesting than it is.
Posted by: tybur6 at October 26, 2009 9:27 AM
Since former mayor David Dinkins has been discussed here, to his detriment, and Guiliani is picking on him again, the NYT offers today a balanced view of his administration.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/26/nyregion/26dinkins.html
Posted by: denton at October 26, 2009 9:27 AM
dibs, now that he's a individual of substance, with his own blog and all, maybe he's keeping it on the down low (no homo)
Posted by: denton at October 26, 2009 9:30 AM
there are some hedges in England though to be over a 1,000 yrs old.
Posted by: dittoburg at October 26, 2009 9:31 AM
i bought a homeless dude breakfast this morning :) it felt good to do but i always worry that things like that are so phony...
on a nicer note i spent last night with a very good friend of mine making play-doh verginas! (i spelled it wrong on purpose btw in case that word is filtered like so many seem to be here). sadly i think a pic of me putting my junk behin my legs with a play-dog vadge is now going to be circulating the internet :-/
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 9:32 AM
oh yeah and im seriously getting tired of the suicide bombings everywhere these days. get a life. you want to kill other people because you think you are so much better? and going to a great place in heaven or whatever the hell your version is? *newsflash* when you die you die, there is no afterlife. idiots.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 9:34 AM
Rob - Your altruism to the homeless is nicely balanced by your suicide bomber tirade & all given a frame by your leisure time activities. Where can we find the pix?
Posted by: Arkady at October 26, 2009 9:43 AM
All right, I think rob's had the final word on the global war on terrorism.
Meanwhile, good post, denton. We live in a very different city than we did in 1989 or 1975. NYC is far better run than it was 30+ years ago, due to the efforts of the last four mayors (and they all deserve some credit here). Bloomberg has continued to professionalize the way things are done, to his credit, but it is wrong to think that a different mayor will undermine those or the previous mayors' efforts. For example, crime, does anyone really think Thompson will lay off thousands of cops or make them stop using comstat, or that the amount of crime is solely a function of who is mayor? The 20-year decline in violent crime was a national trend on which NYC was a leader, but not an exception. There are good reasons to vote for either candidate, but let's keep things in perspective.
Posted by: slopefarm at October 26, 2009 9:48 AM
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aVlwYvRVsnL4
Oct. 26 (Bloomberg) -- Citigroup Inc. and Bank of America Corp. paid top executives an average of $18.2 million each last year as the banks accepted a total of $90 billion in taxpayer funds to survive the financial crisis.
Posted by: dandel at October 26, 2009 9:51 AM
What are the good reasons to vote for Thompson??
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 9:51 AM
fuck, shit, vagina, cock, dick, prick, pussy, twat, one-eyed trouser snake, tally-whacker, heat-seeking love missile, beef bayonet, wedding tackle, pork sword, little soldier, baloney poney, my little pony, my other head, power drill, magic wand, joystick, jack hammer, frankfurter, Captain Winkie, summer sausage, jack-in-the-box, kitty, punani, vajayjay, cooter, cha cha, honey pot, coochie, muff, hoo ha, beaver, box, bits and pieces, yum yum, poon, lady business, goodies, na na, lala, cho cho.
I thought brownstoner was filter-free... so we can be as filthy as we want to be? (And periodically chastised by the more Puritan readers for over use of the 'F bomb')
Posted by: tybur6 at October 26, 2009 9:52 AM
DIBS asked about the Brownstoner sweatshirt in the Martha video. A couple of years ago we took some orders and got a batch made, so there are 10 or 12 floating around out there, though we've never seen anyone sporting one on the street. If peeps are interested, we can do another batch. Think they were about $50, because they are American Apparel sweatshirts with the lettering actually sewn on.
Posted by: brownstoner at October 26, 2009 9:53 AM
If Bloomers gets relected (by the will of the people today) I wonder if all those commentators ranting about Bloomberg subverting the will of the people (of X years ago) are gonna shuddup.
Posted by: dittoburg at October 26, 2009 9:54 AM
I never heard of "bits and pieces."
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 9:54 AM
Mr. B, I'm totally interested. I say we do personalized ones, like hockey jerseys with our numbers and login names on the back. Can I wear the captain's "C"?
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 26, 2009 9:58 AM
"there are some hedges in England though to be over a 1,000 yrs old."
There were some hedges in my father's old Penthouse stash thought to be over a 1,000 year's old. Will we ever see a return to retro bush?
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 26, 2009 9:59 AM
dibs,
The good reasons include reasons that others have posted, but you disagree with them. Some people disagree with his policies on development, or take issue on term limits, etc. I don't want to get much into my views of either candidate. My larger point was that the bad old days argument is an unrealistic view.
Posted by: slopefarm at October 26, 2009 10:00 AM
beef bayonet, my little pony, yum yum and poon are my favorites on this list... the interwebs are grand! Ten years ago, where would I have found a list of genital slang?!
"Hello Mizz Librarian, I am looking for a book that might include a list of humorous euphemisms for my wiener."
Posted by: tybur6 at October 26, 2009 10:01 AM
quote:
NYC is far better run than it was 30+ years ago
LOL no it aint
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 10:04 AM
Would probably cost a few extra bucks, but don't see why you couldn't get your screen names on the back :)
Posted by: brownstoner at October 26, 2009 10:05 AM
True, tybur6, but the "stacks" were always fun for certain activities.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 10:05 AM
quote:
NYC is far better run than it was 30+ years ago
LOL no it aint
ETA you said better RUN. okay given, that yes. is nyc better in general than 30 years ago? depends on your outlook. i say most definitely not. it's so whitebread, disney, and plain old gay. gay meaning dumb, not homosexual.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 10:05 AM
Would probably cost a few extra bucks, but don't see why you couldn't get your screen names on the back :)
Posted by: brownstoner at October 26, 2009 10:05 AM
And a big red target too??? :-(
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 10:06 AM
Rudy Guiliani was the most divisive, arrogant, petty, and vindictive mayor this city has had in living memory. I don't understand why he is given god-like status by people. First of all, to this day, he's never gotten past the fact that Dinkins beat him to become mayor in the first place. He started ragging on Dinkins before the swearing in, and hasn't stopped yet. The Times article is a fair accounting of an administration during a tougher than usual time in our history. I think it's telling that Dinkins, who never has gotten a fair assessment for his anti-crime initiatives, hired Ray Kelly as police chief, something Bloomberg was smart enough to repeat. Rudy fired Kelly because Rudy doesn't share the spotlight well, and hired Bernard Kerik. Kerik's biggest skill was in currying favor with the boss, and letting him get all the glory. Kelly's programs were already in place, and were getting results. We can all see how well Bernie's been doing. Oh, yeah, he's in jail. I'm sure he called Rudy's office for some help. I'm also sure Rudy said, "Bernie who? I don't know anyone named Bernie Kerik."
Posted by: Montrose Morris at October 26, 2009 10:09 AM
quote:
The 20-year decline in violent crime was a national trend on which NYC was a leader, but not an exception.
im psychic. (seriously)
crime in nyc in 2013 is going to make 1977 look like mayberry.
i kid you not.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 10:09 AM
"What are the good reasons to vote for Thompson??"
I'd like to hear them, too, please!
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 26, 2009 10:09 AM
Mr. B - Is there a link so we could look at them?
Posted by: Arkady at October 26, 2009 10:10 AM
quote:
they were about $50,
ALOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
seriously?
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 10:11 AM
Spot on, MM!
Rob, given that you were what, 6 years old 30 years ago? it's hard to give much credence to your rant. And you sound like someone predicting that the world is going to end.
Posted by: Arkady at October 26, 2009 10:13 AM
"Would probably cost a few extra bucks, but don't see why you couldn't get your screen names on the back :)
Posted by: brownstoner at October 26, 2009 10:05 AM"
hmmm....do I really want to pay $50+ to wear the words "the chicken" on my back?
Posted by: the chicken at October 26, 2009 10:15 AM
"Would probably cost a few extra bucks, but don't see why you couldn't get your screen names on the back :)"
I'm in. Full name on back of jersey and number 88 please (before M4L or Won Ton steals it).
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 26, 2009 10:16 AM
So dandel, since that Brownstones Half Off thang ain't really working you've tossed in the towel and changed your login?????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 10:16 AM
MM, chuckle, chuckle...Bernie WHO?! LOL!!
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 26, 2009 10:17 AM
Chicken - Maybe yours could have a coop instead of a brownstone.
Posted by: Arkady at October 26, 2009 10:17 AM
Good morning everyone. I’ve made it back to Brooklyn. Things are still a bit emotionally off kilter, but I wanted to pop in and share something with you all. As you know, my gramma passed and I headed off to Louisiana for the services. Whenever traveling around the country, I’m always taking note of different customs and traditions of various people and places. Everyone has always said that true southern peoples are the most polite and respecting people in the country. Having visited the deep south many times in my life it was something I always believed as well, but was really struck by it over the last few days. Southern tradition demands that the ultimate respect is always shown for a life lost and the grieving family left behind. After the funeral we did the typical funeral car procession to the burial site. As all of our cars followed the hearse down the winding roads and highways from the church to the grave, every single car on the opposite side of the road pulled over and stopped. The men in those cars took off their hats and they all bowed their heads. Radios were turned off, cigarettes put out, children in the back seat immediately stopped yelling. All of these cars did not start up again until our entire procession had passed, as they feel it is the ultimate disrespect to drive by a family proceeding in grief. It sounds so simple, so natural, but it touched me. I felt like every person along those roads were saying that they felt our pain and wanted to be sure that I and my family knew that we would not be the only ones praying for my gramma’s soul. I love the south :-)
And, on a lighter note, I was also struck by funny character of my fellow New Yorkers. On my return flight, I had a short layover in North Carolina. When we finally began to board the plane in NC to come back to LaGuardia, I could tell that most passengers were New Yorkers. I heard fewer “yes ma’am” and “no sir” and very few southern accents. But the funniest part was that one guy on the plane about 2 rows behind me would not turn off his cellphone so that we could push back from the gate and head over to take off. The flight attendant kept asking him to shut it off, but he would not listen. Finally, the flight attendant got on the loudspeaker and announced to the rest of us that we were going to be late because that one guy was still talking on his cell. The New York accents suddenly came out and the plane was filled with a chorus of “GET-CHO-AZZ” as in:
GET CHO AZZ OFF THE PHONE SO WE CAN GO HOME!
IF YOU WANNA TALK ON THE PHONE WHY DON’T CHOO GET CHO AZZ OFF THE PLANE?
YOU BETTER TURN THAT DAMNED PHONE OFF BEFORE I COME BACK THERE AND GET CHO AZZ!
Rofl! I love New York :-)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 10:18 AM
That price isn't bad for a good quality sweatshirt hoodie, with costomized logo and personalized names, sewn on, not glued on or heat stamped. Considering price of shirt, costomization, shipping and handling and some profit for Brownstoner for his efforts, it's not bad. I used to have to figure these things out for a living. It's possible to get this done for much less but only if you order about 1000 units, or more, and have it done in China. Where's the Brooklyn in that?
Posted by: Montrose Morris at October 26, 2009 10:20 AM
Welcome back, Snappy!!
Great stories, thank you!
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 26, 2009 10:22 AM
Welcome back, Snappy. Both great stories! And how were the wee ones when you got home?
Posted by: Arkady at October 26, 2009 10:22 AM
Snappy, welcome home. Great post at 10:18!!!!
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 26, 2009 10:22 AM
quote:
Rob, given that you were what, 6 years old 30 years ago? it's hard to give much credence to your rant. And you sound like someone predicting that the world is going to end.
omg bite your tongue!!! i was only 2!
but yeah, the world is gonna get really bad in the next 5 years. sorry if you dont want to accept that.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 10:22 AM
I like the idea of golf shirts w/ a small brownstone where you'd normally see an alligator or guy on a horse.
Posted by: Arkady at October 26, 2009 10:23 AM
but yeah, the world is gonna get really bad in the next 5 years. sorry if you dont want to accept that.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 10:22 AM
Not everyone's world.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 10:24 AM
Thanks for the welcome everyone. The kitties were happy to see me and I was happy to hug some fur again (I love my family, but they just aren't furry like wee ones!). A pal of mine stayed at my place while I was gone and she fed and played with them so they were content when I arrived home.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 10:26 AM
Snappy, I'm sorry to hear about your grandmother. I know it's been a rough time for you. That Southern tradition is one of the best parts of that part of the country. At least in death, one gets some respect, it seems. People upstate NY were also more respectful of funeral processions. Here, you're just in the way of commerce. The plane story was great.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at October 26, 2009 10:27 AM
Re: Giuliani,
I went to a dinner party Friday and a friend was telling me about how Giuliani used to go to some cigar bar in Midtown every afternoon. My friend was there once when Giuliani came in. After a while, my friend went to use the bathroom.
Giuliani came in a few moments later and stood next to him at the urinals. "Hey, how you doing?" my friend said.
"Don't talk to me," said Giuliani.
Posted by: infinitejester at October 26, 2009 10:27 AM
Denton NY Times piece on Dinkins isnt balanced - its RIDICULOUS.
I love how revisionist historians give Dinkins credit for a tiny drop in crime in his last 2 years (7% - from insanely high numbers and I believe when he left office the homicide rate was STILL above Koch's final year (with all the same social ills that Dinkins faced).
Further any discussion of the Dinkins administration that doesnt directly discuss his abject failure related to the Crown Heights Riots and his disgusting silence regarding the Korean Grocery Store Boycott is a total white-wash (no pun intended)
Posted by: fsrg at October 26, 2009 10:30 AM
Thanks Montrose. You are so right. I've seen people actually honk repeatedly at slow funeral processions here in NY. Eeek! It's beyond rude.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 10:30 AM
Don't know about NYC but I thought it was bad bathroom etiquette anywhere to talk to anyone at the urinals that isn't your friend.
Posted by: the chicken at October 26, 2009 10:31 AM
Well, nice try at some revisionist NYC history here.
Shall we now talk about some facts?
Who now remembers that moment when Dinkins's mayoralty was killed and by whom? Why, it was April, 1993 and it was done by none other than Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, an ardent liberal of the old-school type. The event was a luncheon speech before The Association for a Better New York, and Moynihan was the featured speaker. Dinkins was in the audience, and everyone expected him to deliver the standard boiler-plate speech about how the federal government should do more to help poor old NYC.
Well, Moynihan was not going to have any of it. Moynihan considered himself to be a true liberal in the old FDR/LaGuardia sense, and he was livid about what the then-current crop of liberals(Dinkins, Messinger, Mark Green and that crowd) had allowed it to evolve to. Moynihan, who usually was scholarly in nature, tore into Dinkins and his brand of liberalism, and what it had down to NYC. The speech was truly remarkable, in that it expressed the frustration of so many New Yorkers. Moynihan's speech focused on two things: a) the inability for liberalism to accomplish anything anymore. He went through a list of great public works that were built under FDR and LaGuardia. At one point, he noted that the Bronx-Whitestone Bridge was built in 13 months, and then looked up at Dinkins and shouted at him: "Things WORKED then, Mr. Mayor, they WORKED". The brunt of Moynihan's speech, however, was an expression of his disgust at Dinkins' lax attitude towards crime. In this part of this speech, he coined a term "Defining Deviancy Down" that become famous, and he later wrote a book about it.
The speech made huge headlines. Moynihan sent out the word to MANY old-time democrats and liberals that their disgust with Dinkins was well-founded. This speech gave a major boost to Giuliani, and he then went on to beat Dinkins. Moreover, the revisionists above conveniently forget that the disgust of Dinkins was so palpable, that after Moynihan's speech the LIBERAL party decided to nominate Giuliani for mayor to run on their line. That endorsement gave Giuliani the edge to beat Dinkins, and go on to save the city. At that time, the Liberal party was #3 on the ballot.
Finally, concerning Montrose's rant above. The most disgusting racial moment in this city was the boycott of the Korean grocer on Church Ave, in which the police were ordered to do nothing for DAYS. That happened under Dinkins' watch.
Posted by: benson at October 26, 2009 10:31 AM
sorry about your grams snaps
quote:
I’m always taking note of different customs and traditions of various people and places. Everyone has always said that true southern peoples are the most polite and respecting people in the country. Having visited the deep south many times in my life it was something I always believed as well, but was really struck by it over the last few days.
my grandmother, a true northerner, HATES it AND the people down there. she says they are all phoney, all racist (she's a racist tho herself so that should tell you something!), and they are boring
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 10:32 AM
"you sound like someone predicting that the world is going to end"
*rob* = The What! Utterly ingenious cover, *rob*!
Welcome back, My Snapster!
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 10:36 AM
Rob, I would never say they are boring, they just have a different (slower) speed of life and very different priorities it seems. As far as being racist, racism and prejudice do not abide by geographical boundaries. There are small-minded, exclusionary people everywhere in the nation.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 10:37 AM
Hiya Cargar :-) I trust you've been sipping a margarita or two for me in my absence?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 10:38 AM
GO YANKEES! Four more wins to the championship. Next victim: Phillies.
Posted by: East New York at October 26, 2009 10:41 AM
Thanks Benson :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 10:41 AM
DH! Where's DH? A few weeks ago - after several pitchers of Margaritas - we talked about launching a new kickball (or was it dodgeball?) League in McCarren Park and fielding a Brownstoner team (subject to Mr. B's blessing of course). Instead of t-shirts or hoodies, DH suggested hipster flannel shirts with our log-in names (or abbreviations) embroidered on the back. Snappy, *rob* and Kens have already signed up (though it's possible they don't recall.) Who's in?
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 10:41 AM
slower doesnt even describe the way they are. granted i hate my grandmother so these people probably rock. who knows. honestly she deserves to be stuck down there lol. i know i know im a HORRRRRRRRIBLE person for saying that. oh well. she shouldnt have spent all her money on lottery tickets and cigarettes. she was good with winning sometimes "dont tell daddy!" she used to say and slip a 20 in my hand :-/
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 10:42 AM
omg make it KICKBALL!!!! kickball is SO much fun!
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 10:44 AM
Snaps, I've been stone cold sober since you left - just waiting for you to return so we can toast to your grandmother's memory.
*rob*, you're not a horrible person for saying that. Family relationships are nothing if not very complicated.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 10:44 AM
Snappy, sorry about your grandmother.
I'm the son of a funeral director - people in the North have no clue not to interrupt a funeral procession. I would usually drive the family in the town car, people would be flashing their lights at me trying to get me to turn my lights off, cutting into the line, it was ridiculous.
Posted by: infinitejester at October 26, 2009 10:45 AM
Dinkins tenure was a disaster and a biased Times article cannot help him or his failed record. I recall the old City Hall Park under David Dinkins, prior to the Giuliani refurbishments. The park was a symbol of Dinkins malaise , filthy, dangerous and unkept. One thing to Dinkins credit, however, is that under him the Downtown Manhattan homeless population was somewhat well groomed. Reason being that they would bath in the City Hall fountain on a daily basis. I recall one afternoon a citizen of liesure approached the fountain with a bar of soap and a scrub brush, waded into the fountain and began his bathing ritual in front of hundreds of lunching downtown workers. He methodically lathered up , shampooed , rinsed and repeated. He was by far the most hygenic vagrant in all of Manhattan. Dinkins really did "clean up" downtown.....Just another Dinkins memory...vote carefully.
Posted by: Crescent Hill at October 26, 2009 10:48 AM
Yes, the kickball! I'm still in for that.
Thanks Jester.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 10:48 AM
CAT PEOPLE!! In case any of you missed the kitty litter "taste test" article in last Thursday's Times Home Section (which I find hard to believe given the level of interest some here - who shall remain nameless - have in their felines). Talk amongst yourselves.
"It's Nothing To Sniff At"
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/22/garden/22roadtest.html?_r=1&ref=garden
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 10:49 AM
Kickball? Dodgeball? Flannel shirts?
Just when I thought we couldn't get any more pathetic...
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 26, 2009 10:49 AM
quote:
I'm the son of a funeral director -
whoa. that explains SO much
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 10:50 AM
- launching a new kickball (or was it dodgeball?) League in McCarren Park and fielding a Brownstoner team
I wouldn't mind Kicking some PLUSAs' Balls.
Where do I sign up?
Snappy, sorry to hear about your grandmother.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 26, 2009 10:50 AM
Thanks Jokester.
I think I want the flannel DH orginally suggested and the sweatshirt mentioned by Mr. B. We could have spring and fall kickball gear :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 10:52 AM
"Just when I thought we couldn't get any more pathetic..."
Biff, when you've come this far (or fallen this far as it were), you may as well embrace it.
I assume you saw the entire Yankees game?
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 10:53 AM
CarGar - That article was piss-poor. People w/ multiple cats & only one box complaining about the litter. No true evaluations - we've had better test results on here!
How about croquet? It takes stealth, strategy & skill instead of athletic prowess & is more in keeping w/ the OT.
Posted by: Arkady at October 26, 2009 10:53 AM
The key in hoodie design is where to place the split in the name. rob for instance would be BUTTE - RFLY. Not the obvious BUTTER - FLY.
Posted by: infinitejester at October 26, 2009 10:54 AM
"How about croquet? It takes stealth, strategy & skill instead of athletic prowess & is more in keeping w/ the OT."
Yeah, and from personal experience, it's easier to play while imbibing!!
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 26, 2009 10:56 AM
Stripes in 7.
***Bill Thompson for Mayor***
Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at October 26, 2009 10:57 AM
Hey, can anyone recommend a good and real photo shop in the Slope or nearby that can retouch/restore an old photo and make professional copies of it?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 10:57 AM
"*rob* = The What! Utterly ingenious cover, *rob*!"
ROFL!! That would be brilliant!
But I suspect a different person at the moment. Just sayin'.
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 26, 2009 10:57 AM
But think of all the fun of trying to kick a ball while inebriated!!!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 10:58 AM
Snappy,
http://www.kellards.com/
They're great, do very nice work.
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 26, 2009 10:58 AM
BHO - your BB predictions are as likely as reliable as your election ones - Bloomberg by 15% in both recent polls (quinipiac and marist)
Posted by: fsrg at October 26, 2009 10:58 AM
Apropos of nothing:
When trapped in the hideous voice mail system of Time Warner, I pressed # for no apparent reason, and got transferred to a human being with an American accent (or a really good facsimile of one).
Strange but true...
Posted by: northsloperenter at October 26, 2009 10:58 AM
Hahaha... My parents moved to Georgia. My mom told me she likes how polite the southerners are with all their "ma'ams" and such. As a true northerner, she did say it was a bit disarming at first and took her a while to realize what's happening. For example at a shop trying to return something or a gov't office, they are being just as difficult, assholish, and/or obstructionist as anyone in the north... the difference is that they are really polite about it!!
So basically you're being dicked around, but it doesn't feel that bad. no homo.
Posted by: tybur6 at October 26, 2009 10:59 AM
Thanks Cobble :)
ROFL Tyburg!!! It's very true...my dad calls it polite assholiness :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 11:01 AM
"I assume you saw the entire Yankees game?"
Didn't miss an out, CGar. Very exciting games.
Anyone remember the strip croquet match with Christian Slater and Winona Ryder in Heathers. Love that movie.
If chicken shows up, should we switch from croquet to croquettes?
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 26, 2009 11:02 AM
Snappy - Not in Bklyn but Duggal is supposedly very good.
Posted by: Arkady at October 26, 2009 11:02 AM
Snappy, sorry to hear about your grandmother. :(
CarGar, you better look out, Snappy looks like she is trying to wrench "most moving post" or something like that, that you won a while back...I seriously got teary eyed when i read that post Snappy!
Posted by: bodhi_brooklyn at October 26, 2009 11:04 AM
quote:
The key in hoodie design is where to place the split in the name. rob for instance would be BUTTE - RFLY. Not the obvious BUTTER - FLY.
that makes NO sense. it would be *Bfly* of course
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 11:04 AM
NSR, I'm enjoying your TWC updates. Keep 'em coming.
I've been to hell and back (and to hell again, where I now reside) with them and it is torturous. They should have one of their vans permanently stationed outside my home.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 26, 2009 11:05 AM
"Hey, can anyone recommend a good and real photo shop in the Slope or nearby that can retouch/restore an old photo and make professional copies of it?"
Ditto for video. Place on 9th moved upstate. Well?
***Bill Thompson for Mayor***
Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at October 26, 2009 11:06 AM
Thanks Arkady...I'll check that out too.
Another question...what is the best way to dry and preserve a single rose? I googled some stuff and saw everything from using wax paper and a microwave to newspaper and heavy books and time frames from 2 days to four weeks. Argh! Anything tried and true? (and easy?)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 11:06 AM
Duggal is excellent, however, they will charge you an arm and a leg.
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 26, 2009 11:08 AM
Snaps - THL probably knows best about the flower.
Meanwhile, I'm outta here. I am really, really, really going to close the pool today.
Posted by: Arkady at October 26, 2009 11:08 AM
Thanks Bodhi :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 11:09 AM
has anyone ever been to sedona, AZ? I'm going to tuscon in a few weeks and a friend suggested that I HAD to go to sedona. Do you think it's worth a four hour drive? and just for those who are concerned, I will NOT be staying in a sweat lodge. thank you.
Posted by: bodhi_brooklyn at October 26, 2009 11:11 AM
I recommend pressing. Place the flower on some plain white paper towels, lay another few towels on top and pile on 10+ BIG books to flatten. It can take awhile, maybe month or more.
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 26, 2009 11:12 AM
You mean BF - LY: the front zipper requires most words to be split.
Posted by: infinitejester at October 26, 2009 11:13 AM
Snappy,
Duggal is ridiculously overpriced.
If you can't find a place in Bklyn and gonna head to Manhattan, I'd recommend Baboo Color Labs (20th street)
Posted by: brownjokester at October 26, 2009 11:14 AM
Benson, I hardly think the worse racial moment in this city was the Korean store boycott. Please. If you don't like Dinkins, fine. He was mayor at a time when this city was pulling itself out of a deep hole, financially and culturally, and he had the misfortune to find himself at the helm when issues of race and culture exploded. Did he handle everything well? No. No mayor handles everything well. The Korean boycott was based on some messy truths, prejudice on both sides, and a lot of resentments, some justified, some not. Sounds like just about every issue that comes up. But the worst racial moment? I can think of a few body counts that were much worse. If it had happened under another administration, you wouldn't have even mentioned it.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at October 26, 2009 11:14 AM
Biff
I'm hopefully done with TWC for the time being. The problem seems to have been that instead of TRANSFERRING my account when I moved, they closed my old account and opened a new, unrelated one, which resulted in losing the e-mail address I'd been using for most of this millennium.
THEY did not figure this out.
I had a hunch this is what some idiot did and when I finally got someone to listen to me and check what happened, they confirmed it was the problem.
I'm really hating them right now.
Took 3 installation trips and 6 phone calls before they could find understand I lived in Park Slope not Williamsburg.
Then it took 8 phone calls to get my e-mail address back, and for my trouble I was offered: (1) one month free HBO, (2) 3 months free Showtime/TMC, and (3) waiver of installation fees.
The one month free HBO lasted 4 days. Based on this, I expect Showtime/TMC to last another 8 days.
I'm also expecting to see additional charges on my bill for multiple installation visits and phone tech support (plus charges for 1 month of HBO and 3 months of Showtime/TMC).
The local cable monopolies really really need to be broken up.
Posted by: northsloperenter at October 26, 2009 11:16 AM
Good thought, Jokester - Baboo started at Duggal.
Posted by: Arkady at October 26, 2009 11:16 AM
A month or more??? Yikes! I'm an instant gratification kinda girl! What would happen to the rose if I just went ahead and stuck it in a shadow box today? Would it just rot?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 11:17 AM
bodhi, no i don't
Posted by: Petebklyn at October 26, 2009 11:17 AM
Ok...Baboo is on my list too. Thanks :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 11:19 AM
"CarGar - That article was piss-poor"
Arkady! Don't shoot the messenger! I'm trying to show an interest in cats! What more do you Cat People want from me?!
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 11:22 AM
- I'm an instant gratification kinda girl!
Me too!! But unfortunately my partner doesn't know how to press my flower properly. Takes forever.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 26, 2009 11:23 AM
Montrose;
I repeat my assertion that the Korean boycott was the worst racial incident in the recent history of this city. I am well-aware of other incidents (such as Bensonhurst, Howard Beach, Crown Heights, etc) in which the body count was higher. However, in those other incidents, NO ONE from the city government or other positions of responsibility supported the ugly, prejuidiced POV. People spoke out against what happened, and the perpetrators were brought to justice.
In the case of the Korean boycott, the ugly racially-motivated death threats against that Korean grocer were openly stated, on TV. I saw it with my own eyes, and the reason for their death threat was openly stated: "They don't look like us". The reaction from City Hall? Nothing, for days and days..
Posted by: benson at October 26, 2009 11:24 AM
Hey everyone.
Snappy, that story got me all verklempt!
The flower- I've used the Martha Stewart method and it really works. It's basically between waxed paper inside a heavy book and it'll take 10 days or so. My mom used to place them in our 8" thick humongous family bible:
http://tinyurl.com/yzw98am
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 11:24 AM
NSR, I feel your pain. It's just awful.
Feel free to join me in the line of people waiting for FIOS.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 26, 2009 11:27 AM
Photo Restoration:
I've used This place in the past (NOT CHEAP!):
http://www.nyphotorestoration.com/
Duggal is probably your best bet though. Super professional.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 11:27 AM
"How about croquet?"
Croquet? Just what the doctor ordered: Drunk PLUSAs wielding mallets! Kickball it is. Flannel shirts and hoodies. Biff can have 88. The sign up sheet is in the OT Office, on Cobble's desk. Details to follow when DH joins us.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 11:28 AM
Snappy, if you just put the flower in a shadow box; it'll dry up and wilt and eventually fall off the stem. The leaves will turn brown and crumble and you'll be left with nothing but dust.
Use the heavy book method. It works. I have a pressed rose from 15 years ago.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 26, 2009 11:29 AM
I gave up with Time Warner after they refused time and time again to install cable for us saying they couldn't find our address in their system. I told them I'd wait outside and show them its real. No deal. Satellite turned out fine.
Posted by: dittoburg at October 26, 2009 11:32 AM
Benson - Korean Boycott was disgusting, but Dinkins was just as silent during the Crown Heights Riots -
As for the "worst racial moment" in [modern]NYC history - I'd like to nominate Freddies Fashion Mart, thank you Al Sharpton
in history the Draft Riots make everything else in NYC look like pocket change.
Posted by: fsrg at October 26, 2009 11:32 AM
There is a way to preserve it in a shadow box so that it will last. I think though it involves dehydration, not sure how they do it. Ask some high end framing shops
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 11:33 AM
"CarGar, you better look out, Snappy looks like she is trying to wrench "most moving post""
Bodhi, I won in 2009. Snappy is now the leading contender for the 2010 PLUSA for "Most Touching Post".
I haven't been to Sedona yet, but I hear from friends and relatives that it is definitely worth the trip.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 11:33 AM
was the problem that stemmed from the korean grocer drama because they took over bodegas and turned them into over-priced organic fauxdegas? im just asking. i didnt live in he city at the time and i guess ill be honest in saying id be mad too if my local bodega that i went to normally for cheap stuff turned into an overpriced fauxdega. that seems to be the norm these days.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 11:33 AM
Sorry about your grandma, Snappy. May she rest in peace.
"we talked about launching a new kickball (or was it dodgeball?) League in McCarren Park and fielding a Brownstoner team (subject to Mr. B's blessing of course). Instead of t-shirts or hoodies, DH suggested hipster flannel shirts with our log-in names (or abbreviations) embroidered on the back."
Ummm.....kickball?? Hipster fannel shirts with log in names???? Mr. B's blessing??!?!
Yeah, I don't see myself at any Brownstoner gatherings anytime soon.
Posted by: East New York at October 26, 2009 11:34 AM
Benson- Thanks alot. Did you have to mention Ruth Messinger before lunch....now I am also recalling Margaret Hamilton's most well known role....
That boycott was officially permitted harrassment led by a well known convict who was a violent and dangerous radical. It is a mark on Dinkins failed record that can never be justified or explained away. He will NEVER live it down. The fact that the repeated harrassment by the convicted radical and his seemingly "liesure class" followers, who showed up day after day to protest, I guees due to independent wealth/income of some kind??, was condoned by Dinkins led to the ruination of a hardworking, taxpaying immigrant & his family.
Posted by: Crescent Hill at October 26, 2009 11:35 AM
I think someone has to have some pretty screwed up ideas of what "worst" is- why don't you ask the families of Michael Griffiths and Yusef Hawkins, benson? May I also be offensive enough to point out that both of them were killed in heavily Italian-American neighborhoods, by Italian-Americans (and Irish-American, in Howard Beach). Yet you think a Black boycott of Koreans- where no one died- was worse. Go figure. I would say you are either in serious denial or you suffer from a problem of perception.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 26, 2009 11:41 AM
One more stupid comment in the "Copter Rage in Brooklyn Heights", and I'm going on a tirade!!!
THIS IS NYC, NOISE IS EVERYWHERE.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 26, 2009 11:45 AM
"saying they couldn't find our address in their system"
Someone with a southern accent repeatedly told me my address "wasn't in their system" and kept trying to tell me I lived somewhere else.
I said, "no, you are talking about Williamsburg -- I live in Park Slope".
Further conversation revealed that the strange terms "Williamsburg" and "Park Slope" meant nothing to her.
And the worst part was every time I called, whoever I ended up talking to had to go through their little "script" before they would even LISTEN to me for 1 second.
I really wanted to bludgeon "Jose" who kept responding to my comments that had nothing to do with whether or not I had INTERNET CONNECTIVITY with assurances that my modem was working fine. "Jose" also took down my phone number, promised to escalate the issue to his superior, swore that someone would call me back later that day, and disappeared from my life forever.
I find I don't miss him, but I regret not being able to hurt him in some way.
It seems my interactions with Time Warner have poisoned my soul.
Someone needs to update The Banality of Evil.
Posted by: northsloperenter at October 26, 2009 11:46 AM
Ah, here comes Bxgrl, ready to throw gas on the flames.
I've made my case in a non-inflammatory way above. Therefore, I'm not going to respond to your rant.
Just curious Bxgrl, why are you going after just me?? FSRG and Crescent Hill spoke up too.
Also, fyi, NONE of the people convicted in Howard Beach were Italian-Americans. Nice try to bait me, though. I'll give you points for that.
I'm outta here.
Posted by: benson at October 26, 2009 11:46 AM
Ok...heavy books it is. And thanks for the suggestions THL :)
Thanks ENY :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 11:47 AM
I have to go out, but would love to continue this Dinkins fest later.
Amazing how the point of view changes depending on who's viewing.
I think the "liesure class" remark is totally out of line, btw. And being driven out of business, as indefensible, and unfair as it is, is a far cry from being driven into the highway to die. I would think that being dead is much worse than being ruined.
I do agree that the draft riots during the Civil War were the worst racial incidents this city ever had.
Rob, it was much more complicated than that. If no one explains, we can discuss in about an hour.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at October 26, 2009 11:48 AM
"One more stupid comment in the "Copter Rage in Brooklyn Heights", and I'm going on a tirade!!!"
I'll see what I can do...
Posted by: northsloperenter at October 26, 2009 11:49 AM
Can we just step away from using terms like "the worst".
How about using one of the worst.
There's always going to be something that another thinks of as worse than what you mentioned. So now instead of people saying "yes, that was terrible." People look at your definitive comment and say, "You think that was the worst? What's wrong with you? This was much worse!".
I'm going to go Google now to find something much worse than what any of you have posted!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 11:53 AM
I would say you are either in serious denial or you suffer from a problem of perception.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 26, 2009 11:41 AM
Nice attempt at deflecting the discussion, but it won't work here, not on me , because your number my dear I have got. Your sterotypical petty baiting is old news. We are discussing a politically condoned boycott/event not isolated criminality of hoodlums.
Posted by: Crescent Hill at October 26, 2009 11:54 AM
"Can we just step away from using terms like "the worst". "
No, Time Warner has the worst customer service in the multiverse. I stand by that statement and think the facts support me.
Posted by: northsloperenter at October 26, 2009 11:56 AM
I think the "liesure class" remark is totally out of line, btw.
But Montrose, how could they afford to show up and boycott day after day... it was the question all hardworking taxpaying New Yorkers were asking then..
It's not out of line...attempting to defend that boycott is out of line.
Posted by: Crescent Hill at October 26, 2009 11:57 AM
LOL!! Good point! In fact- The greatest point!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 11:58 AM
NSR, don't even get me started on Cablevision. Same EVIL, different neighborhood monopoly.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 26, 2009 12:01 PM
I like liverwurst. Mother Goose is the best. Boars Head is the worst wurst.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 12:03 PM
All hail DirecTV :-) Cheaper and better! I gave up on TWC for tv years ago and have never looked back.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 12:03 PM
Kens is right- I have Comcast and it's no joy ride.
People seem to like Fios' service but Holy Mother it's expensive and you need a degree to decipher the billing statement.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 12:05 PM
Snappy- I always regret having not switched over to DTV before we had the roof redone. They say it's installation won't cause any leaks/damage but I'm skeptical.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 12:07 PM
THL...I have Comcast in PA and in MA. We don't have the full service and the thing I hate about them is that without it there's no channel guide, not even a non-interactive one.
Not worth paying for the full digital upgrade given how often we use it there.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 12:08 PM
THL...I had the Direct TV dish installed on the roog in Philly...so far it's OK but given the moron who installed it I wonder.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 12:09 PM
No, Crescent Hill, you are making a not so subtle jab at a bunch of black people who boycotted everyday, presumably because they didn't work, and were therefore, presumably, unfairly sucking at the public teat. Therefore, in contrast to the hard working grocer, their reasons for boycotting are rendered null and void.
Sorry, saw through that one.
The boycott was much more complicated than that, and no one smelled like roses. I'm not defending some of what happened, but it didn't happen in a vacuum, and there is plenty of blame to go around to cover just about everyone, from the mayor's office on down to the street. However, a fair discussion of the events does not begin and end by pointing the blame on Dinkins, or an activist, whether he has a criminal record or not.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at October 26, 2009 12:09 PM
Michael Pirone, Jason Ladone,James Povinelli, Thomas Farino,Salvatore DeSimone and Harry J. Buonocore were all convicted on either second degree manslaughter or other related charges for the howard Beach incident in 1986, benson. what was that about those who write revisionist history?
Maybe you should look these things up before you talk.
Nicholas Minucci was convicted for the baseball bat attack on 3 young Black men in 2005.
Non- inflammatory? Benson- people with blind spots like yours made my married life hell just walking down the street with my husband. You blow off the deaths of people who simply made the mistake of walking into the wrong neighborhood as not as important as a boycott of Korean grocers? Oh right- I see it now. An overpriced produce vendor is worth so much more than a life. FTR- Crescent hill elaborated on the korean incident- he didn't call the the worst racial incident in the city's recent history. Dinkins bashing is fair game- what you said not only do I disagree with, I thought it was offensive, insensitive and erroneous. Now I'm done and you can revise all you want.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 26, 2009 12:10 PM
"There's always going to be something that another thinks of as worse than what you mentioned. So now instead of people saying "yes, that was terrible." People look at your definitive comment and say, "You think that was the worst? What's wrong with you? This was much worse!"."
About the most sensible comment I've heard today.
NSR, Kens is right. If you think Time Warner is bad, try Cablevision. I've had both, and they combined to drive me to satellite.
But then again, I don't think the fact that cable TV service sucks is news to too many people.
Posted by: East New York at October 26, 2009 12:10 PM
Quinnipiac Poll says Bloomberg has 18% lead...53 to 35
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 12:10 PM
THL, I can't speak to wether or not they cause any damage...when i got mine I first of course asked the landlord for permission, which I got, but then the installer guy actually attached my dish to the building next to mine because that building is one floor higher! Ooops! But in 7 or so years, that building owner has never complained or demanded that it be removed.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 12:12 PM
Crescent Hill- when a vendor offends you and overcharges you, you have the right to boycott. And the assumption none of these people worked is a little over the top. Ever think some were retirees, housewives, students, or whatever? Why asssume the worst about them and the best about the Korean grocer?
Posted by: bxgrl at October 26, 2009 12:13 PM
"instead of TRANSFERRING my account when I moved, they closed my old account and opened a new, unrelated one, which resulted in losing the e-mail address I'd been using"
NSR, like Snappy, I abandoned TW for DirecTV years ago. Still, Verizon did the same thing to me when I moved. I lost all of the email addresses that I'd been using for years. And they neglected to credit a payment to my "old" account (when I didn't know I had "old" and "new" accounts), so the "old" account ended up being delinquent, which Verizon then turned over to a collection agency, and I recently found out (when applying for mortgage pre-approval) was reported to all the credit bureaus! So my credit scores are through the roof, but for a $90 Verizon bill that was "subject to collection". Hail bureaucracy!
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 12:14 PM
Snappy Shhhhhh!!!
You don't know nothing about that understood? You have NO IDEA that's what he did!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 12:14 PM
i perambulated around the slope this weekend and realized something new that annoys me that i never noticed much before until now.. the invasion of annoying PARENTS who dont live in the area. i think they might be worse than resident minor children! they are so obvious... walking around with their heterosexual couple adult crotchfruit giving everyone and anything the stinkeye they don't think are proper. my pitbull growled at a spefic woman and man who gave both of us the nasty face yesterday. i totally gave her the wtf u looking at b-tch? face.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 12:15 PM
I dont think we really should be "rating" racial incidents but if you are going to - 7 people were killed in the Freddy's Fashion Mart incident - SEVEN
Posted by: fsrg at October 26, 2009 12:16 PM
THL, I had 2 DirecTV dishes installed after I had a new roof installed, and there was no problem whatsoever.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 12:16 PM
LOL THL :-) I am definitely with that!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 12:18 PM
rob - you think the Korean Grocery boycott started over organic vegetables - I would say that YOU are the definition of the annoying newcomer -
we get it - you have opinions - but unlike your parents, not everyone cares to hear all of yours!
Posted by: fsrg at October 26, 2009 12:19 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NYC_murders.PNG
Ok, everyone chill out a bit. Not saying Dinkins was a great mayor, but before you hold him responsible for crime, look at the linked chart. Murder rate kept going up rapidly throughout the 80s, peaked in '90 (DD's first year in office) and then immediately began declining precipitously, beginning with the final three years of DD's term. Rate of decline looks about the same under DD as under RG and MB. Note that the line on the chart does not change direction much during the RG and MB years, but follows the downward path at more or less the same angle as the final 3 years of DD. Some of that is policing and some is social factors, local and national. But DD did not create the crime wave he inherited, and he did respond to it.
Posted by: slopefarm at October 26, 2009 12:21 PM
Thanks for the votes of confidence in being able to get the dish installed without damaging the roof DIBS & CGar.
I just got Comcast to renew my new customer Triple Play rates for the 3rd time so I'll wait until they expire again.
For anyone who has tried calling their cable co. to get them to give you lower rates it's worth the phone call. I happened to have seen a segment on the Today Show where they said most cable co.'s were open to renegotiating fees due to the economy. SO one day for shiggles I called and claimed financial hardship. First they offered to reduce my services (getting rid of premium channels) and I said is there any way you could grandfather me into the new customer package rates? She did it right on the spot no questions asked.
I'm saving $48 more or less a month.
Give it a shot.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 12:21 PM
quote:
rob - you think the Korean Grocery boycott started over organic vegetables - I would say that YOU are the definition of the annoying newcomer - we get it - you have opinions - but unlike your parents, not everyone cares to hear all of yours!
bite me
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 12:22 PM
THL, that's great! $48 is nothing to sneeze at.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 12:23 PM
crime rate in ALL cities was a direct causation of the crack epidemic. with the new heroin epidemic (yes people it has begun) crime is going to be just as bad as the crack days.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 12:24 PM
First: I stand corrected that no one of those convicted in Howard Beach were Italian-Americans. I remember the two principals: Scott Kern and Jon Lester. My mistake, and once again, I stand corrected on the factual point.
Having said that, I take exception to the personal attack and baiting above, by the same usual folks (including those who sit by silently in their complicity).
THL, I appreciate your point, to a degree. However, I clearly stated above that this was just my assertion. Clearly we are talking about opinion, and that is mine. I know that these issues are touchy, but I had thought that they can be discussed. My mistake, I guess. Frankly, I think that if I had taken your advice, the same reaction would have occured.
Just another example of the political correctness that some try to impose on this site.
Posted by: benson at October 26, 2009 12:24 PM
"bite me
*rob*"
No way, not with all the chemicals you ingest. You'd have to sign a waiver saying that you were at least six months organic before I'd even consider biting you.
***KIDDING!***
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 12:24 PM
$48 / 6 = 8 beers
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 12:25 PM
"when a vendor offends you and overcharges you, you have the right to boycott."
Unless they have a monopoly, like Time Warner Cable.
:-)
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 26, 2009 12:25 PM
Bxgrl/ Montrose- Everything I said is true and I stand by it all, Dinkins and his failed record deserve to be bashed. In all honesty I can't recall the details of these other incidents you seem to be quite familiar with. Were they backed by City Hall and condoned by the mayor...as was the daily torture and ruination of the Korean immigrant who was driven to insanity....
Discussing a politically condoned boycott of the late 80's .... Bxgrl references a modern day hoodlum named Nick Manucci?? and how is this related to the boycott discussion, nice try.
Posted by: Crescent Hill at October 26, 2009 12:26 PM
"$48 / 6 = 8 beers"
It's a 12 pack if you take it in the can!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 12:26 PM
THL, can't you install the dishes on the side of the building too or on a balcony? I know they sell mounts for both. Maybe that's a safer option?
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 26, 2009 12:27 PM
"One more stupid comment in the "Copter Rage in Brooklyn Heights", and I'm going on a tirade!!!
THIS IS NYC, NOISE IS EVERYWHERE."
I find really loud noises annoying. This argument comes up all the time on here..."if you don't like corn stalks on the sidewalks, this is nyc..." i don't really think it's an actual argument. It basically says, if you don't like something you should leave, instead of stand up for yourself and what you feel is appropriate, or try to work out a compromise. I don't get it, why should I leave just because I don't like something, or just suck it up and deal with it?
Posted by: bodhi_brooklyn at October 26, 2009 12:27 PM
"BHO - your BB predictions are as likely as reliable as your election ones"
I know. But ya gotta believe!
***Bill Thompson for Mayor***
Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at October 26, 2009 12:27 PM
ROFL THL!!! An organic Rob...whatta thought :-)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 12:27 PM
"Just another example of the political correctness that some try to impose on this site."
No need to get all dramatic.
People are just as entitled to disagree with your commentary as you are to making it.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 12:28 PM
LOL...yes, it all comes back to beer :) I've had so much beer in the last three days it's a wonder there's no "Bud Light" stamp on my ass!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 12:29 PM
Kens I'm smack in the middle of a row with no balconies. I was pretty much resigned to the fact that if I got a dish it would puncture and cause leaks on my 'rubber' roof.
it's nice to know it still might be a viable option. Heck, I could probably pay for the repairs in a few months given how much cheaper the service is.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 12:31 PM
By the way, let me get one more thing off my chest, because I've had it with the way certain people operate on this site.
Slopefarm: you go F*&(N chill out!!!! We can disagree on this site all we want. Why don't you call out those who always try to make these disagreements ugly???
Montrose: Why don't you come along, as you have done before, and tell me that I'm taking this personally???? Let me hear that shit from you again. Your buddy comes along and tells me that I'm the type of person who was responsible for her failed marriage, and somehow, I'll be told that I just take things too personally.
Posted by: benson at October 26, 2009 12:32 PM
Direct TV won't really help me unless they are offering internet access and can port my e-mail address over...
I really wish these customer service calls were recorded so I could post the transcripts somewhere. At least 6 or 7 people at Time Warner deserve to be fired for my case alone...
Posted by: northsloperenter at October 26, 2009 12:32 PM
THL is correct about the cable reductions! but but but but be careful, they will ask you if you are going to be at your residence for another 2 years. i guess if you are, it's not a big deal, but if you have no clue, it might not make sense?
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 12:33 PM
Dishes on balconies look soooooo white trash. My tenants got a dish and I told them to make sure it couldn't be seen from the street and that it had to be installed on the vertical part of the peripet wall.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 12:33 PM
I'm saving $48 more or less a month.
Give it a shot.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 12:21 PM
I sooo tried. Didn't work for me. Cablevision told me to pay up or go screw myself. I tried with 4 different reps and a supervisor and said I would cancel and they told me to go right ahead. Freakin rip-offs. I know if I cancel for like 2 months, they would call me back (as they did with few of my friends) and offer me the triple package again but I can't switch to Direct TV or Dish since my building doesn't allow or has Dish connection and doesn't want antennas on the roof and FIOS doesn't service the building yet so either I have Cablevision or go back to dial up. SUCKS!!!! I am debating of just keeping internet and cancelling cable all together. Maybe I'll read more and actually learn how to write well.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 26, 2009 12:37 PM
Rob they didn't ask me about being there another two years. if they had I'd have said yes regardless. What are they going to do force me to stay?
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 12:37 PM
THL, if you've been with a service company for a while, it's always worth calling them up and threatening to leave them. They all have large customer-retention departments and anyone talking about leaving gets escalated up to them straight away - these are the people that have the power to say yes.
This is the way that I got my telephone (including international calls), Internet and TV package for $35 a month and my mobile plan (200 minutes and 200 texts) for $7 a month.
Posted by: the chicken at October 26, 2009 12:37 PM
Why asssume the worst about them and the best about the Korean grocer?
Posted by: bxgrl at October 26, 2009 12:13 PM
I am assuming nothing.
Posted by: Crescent Hill at October 26, 2009 12:38 PM
DTV offers internet, but it is ridiculously expensive...like 100 bones a month for the internet alone. CRAZY!! I use DTV for tv and TWC for a basic 29.95/mo internet package.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 12:39 PM
i just got this e-mail from a coworker :-/
If you missed the last KFC freebie, the Colonel (or his deputy) has a deal for you. Today, Monday, Oct. 26, more than 5,000 KFCrestaurants nationwide will give each customer one free piece of grilled chicken.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 12:40 PM
Being a long term customer definitely helps. I've been with ATT/Cingular for years. A few months back when my phone (which was long since out of warranty coverage) began acting a fool, I called and threatened to cancel. They damn near broke their necks to send me a brand new cell phone of my choice (Got a sweet LG Vu w/ Tv!) for free and canceled my bill for two months.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 12:42 PM
Kens, cancel cable. thought I would miss it but I've been cable free for a few months now and I dont miss it that much at all.
Posted by: more4less at October 26, 2009 12:43 PM
That KFC grilled chicken is flavored with beef juice. Careful if you are against red meat!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 12:43 PM
Does anyone know...
When we first moved into our house we screwed the existing cable that was in the house directly to the back of the TV and we got cable channels 2-70.
Within two weeks of living there we then ordered the full cable/phone/internet package deal and have one cable box in the living room but just use the existing cables in the bedrooms where we still get channels 2-70.
Would we still get those channels if we canceled or service completely or would they be blocked? Did they just not get around to blocking the service in the first couple weeks we lived here?
I'm wondering based on Kens current situation. If he canceled could he still get the basic channels by screwing the cable directly into his set?
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 12:44 PM
"it had to be installed on the vertical part of the peripet wall"
I also had mine and my tenant's dishes installed on the back of the roof, hidden from street view. Dave, the only thing worse, to me, are cable wires draped down the front of the house from the roof.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 12:46 PM
"That KFC grilled chicken is flavored with beef juice. Careful if you are against red meat!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 12:43 PM"
Think I've just found my new favourite dish...
Posted by: the chicken at October 26, 2009 12:46 PM
"That KFC grilled chicken is flavored with beef juice."
Wow...that means it's actually MORE disgusting than I imagined. Whaddya know.
Posted by: East New York at October 26, 2009 12:47 PM
THL, dont know if things changed per this migration to digital but in the analog days, cable would need to send someone out to change/block your service at the manhole or something like that outside of your house. for that reason, folks often file the cable feed to be still live - ie as they move into a place. cable companies were being lazy and just hoped the new resident would simply sign up for service vs sending a rep out to block svc than once again to unblock svc when new resident asks for svc
Posted by: more4less at October 26, 2009 12:49 PM
I refuse to eat it because I figure if I want beef, I'll order beef! A bit sneaky on their part, eh?
"the new KFC grilled chicken is made with beef powder and rendered beef fat. "
http://tinyurl.com/ylaahub
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 12:51 PM
quote!
beef juice
LOL! that's now my new fav. term for female jizzers
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 12:51 PM
Dishes on balconies look soooooo white trash. My tenants got a dish and I told them to make sure it couldn't be seen from the street and that it had to be installed on the vertical part of the peripet wall.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 12:33 PM
Ha ha Dave, I am thinking of going "white trash" and putting up a dish on my fire escape (since I can't do it on the roof) because I am having serious issues with paying my life away to Cablevision.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 26, 2009 12:52 PM
I've heard of that happening THL...it's usually that they forgot to send the shut off signal or someone before you managed to unscramble it.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 12:52 PM
"I am thinking of going "white trash""
Going, Kens? ; )
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 12:53 PM
Thanks Snaps and M4L
So if he canceled he might be able to swing getting it for a little while but would probably eventually be blocked?
Bummer.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 12:54 PM
LUNCH BELL! Since I've had chicken everyday for the last three days, why not...I'm having chicken again :) (NOT kfc though!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 12:55 PM
THL, with digital migration, they might be able to switch svc on/off remotesly via software-enabled provisioning. if true, you guys cancelling will trigger someone to pull up your profile and notice svc not turned off - ie they might block it immediately post calling into call center
Posted by: more4less at October 26, 2009 1:00 PM
"I am thinking of going "white trash""
I just figured out my costume for the office Halloween party! I'm going to take a bunch of used copy paper from the recycling basket, tape it to my clothes and go as "white trash!" HA!!!
Best thing is I won't have to wear or carry a costume to work, and I can dispose of it easily when done. Thanks, Kens!
Posted by: East New York at October 26, 2009 1:11 PM
quote:
I just figured out my costume for the office Halloween party! I'm going to take a bunch of used copy paper from the recycling basket, tape it to my clothes and go as "white trash!" HA!!!
LOL. that's funny. a group of hispanic kids in my high school went on halloween dressed as white trash. (basically just white trash bags on themselves and said they were white trash). white people were the minority in the school. no on batted an eye lash at the time that it was eh, racist and non PC. would that ever fly now? could someone dress up in a black bag and say they were black trash without an onslaught of dramarama? probably not.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 1:16 PM
benson - I think you're under a lot of stress at work at the moment and you may be shooting a bit too easily from the hip! When you say the "worst racial incident" in the history of the city, people are immediately thinking - who ended up dead? In that sense it deosn't compare. Parsing through the posts it seems to me what you are saying is - that the city's Response itself was the "worst" for any raical incident, especially considering how the Mayor and the elected officials as well as the public clearly and actively responded to those awful ones mentioned by bxgrl. I think the city's leadership failure with regard to the Korean grocery incident was telling, but I could never say it was the worst incident when at the same time people lose their lives because of their race.
Posted by: dittoburg at October 26, 2009 1:23 PM
My little lad got a bit confused about Halloween this weekend (he's 2 and a half). My mum asked him "what are dressing up as"; he answered "A costume".
Posted by: dittoburg at October 26, 2009 1:25 PM
Ohhhhh ditto, that is the cutest ever!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 1:27 PM
aaawww!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 1:29 PM
hi Guys
CarG: how is your dog doing?
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 1:31 PM
watching cable tv in a brownstone is not period appropriate.
Posted by: bodhi_brooklyn at October 26, 2009 1:32 PM
Hey Rob, I back you when you make fun of children in general. I happen to think crotchfruit is quite comical. BUT...perhaps it wise to refrain from making statements with regard to specific peoples children.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 1:32 PM
oh and on the topic of Belleville in park slope:
which I know when it gets brought up there's a strong diving line of likers and dislikers
I'd like to say we will not be going back
we went for brunch. Sure it was busy, but not nuts. The service is just plain old bad - indifferent waitstaff. The host is nice - but the waitstaff could care less. We ordered about 15 mins after we were seated, then had to wait anohter 30 mins for food. when it arrived it was tasteless - so just my 2 cents for a recent visit to Belleville.
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 1:33 PM
"watching cable tv in a brownstone is not period appropriate."
It's part of my renovation.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 1:34 PM
A coupla points on the Italian thang... I was surprised during that time, while listening to either WLIB or another Black-oriented call-in station, to see what was up, that an apparently elderly woman called in and made the same point about Italian-Americans being the cause of a lot of racial problems, that the commentator immediately shut her down and stated they couldn't allow anything to be said against a race or ethnicity. In fact I was so surprised I still remember it.
Posted by: denton at October 26, 2009 1:34 PM
Ditto;
Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
I fully concede that it all depends upon what one's criteria is when making a judgement about what is worst. Moreover, I early on in the debate (while it was still rational) conceded that if the criteria is body count, then the Korean Boycott is certainly not the worst in recent history.
My criteria was that the Korean Boycott was the worst because, out of all the incidents discussed, it was the only one condoned by City Hall (though the Crown Heights riot may fall in that category too). To me, it is a very frightening thing when racially-charged violence as a means of protest is condoned by the government. I respect your right to disagree on that point.
Finally, I want to go back to one other point from the recent ugly dust-up. I was not the first to use superlative terms in that debate. Allow me to reprint Montrose's post from this morning:
"Rudy Guiliani was the most divisive, arrogant, petty, and vindictive mayor this city has had in living memory."
I'll believe that I get a fair shot on this site when some of the advice that I receive is thrown the way of those who have the amen choir.
Posted by: benson at October 26, 2009 1:36 PM
quote:
BUT...perhaps it wise to refrain from making statements with regard to specific peoples children.
uh, all i said was that what that chile said was not funny. ill stand behind my opinion that it wasnt funny. it's not like i said it smells or something!
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 1:36 PM
THL, sorry just being silly and using one of shillstoner's lines...i don't really think it's inappropriate..
Posted by: bodhi_brooklyn at October 26, 2009 1:36 PM
Snappy, how bad is the pic? What do you need done? b&w or color? If it's not crazy, I could take a shot at it. drop me an email.
Duggal and Baboo are big outfits that are not gonna spend a lot of time figuring out what you need. I'd look for a more local person. If I can't handle it I can probably find someone in Brooklyn.
Posted by: denton at October 26, 2009 1:37 PM
watching cable tv in a brownstone is not period appropriate.
Posted by: bodhi_brooklyn at October 26, 2009 1:32 PM
Actually, I agree with this. In a restored period home, there shouldn't be a visible TV in the living room and dining room areas. Find a room to devote to the TV apart from these. I've had panelled cabinets built into walls in my obsession to be able to cover that big blinking box from the 18th & 19th C furnifhings.
I just noticed the typo in furnishings and decided to keep it as being the more 18th C appropriate style of writing the s in the middle of the word.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 1:37 PM
Bodhi- Don't apologize! It cracked me up. I was just being sarcastic back.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 1:38 PM
"To me, it is a very frightening thing when racially-charged violence as a means of protest is condoned by the government. I respect your right to disagree on that point"
I don't disagree about that.
Posted by: dittoburg at October 26, 2009 1:39 PM
Did anyone notice last night when the FOX reporters were interviewing the Yankees in the winning clubhouse how Bloomberg was hovering around practically BEGGING the FOX guys to interview him?? I couldn't believe it! Stay out of the way, publicity hog! This has NOTHING to do with you! Why don't you go and scream on some smokers and fat people or something??
Posted by: East New York at October 26, 2009 1:40 PM
I think ditto and benson are both on the same page.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 1:40 PM
fsrg- no one is comparing racial incidents. benson was comparing a boycott and deaths due to racism. Freddy's was a horrible incident, stupid and stoked by anti-white comments by Sharpton, who ignored the Black Church that asked for the eviction in the first place. No one denies racism affects all of us and it works both ways.
The last thing I am going to say on this issue is if protesting racist remarks is "political correctness" then I intend to be as politically correct as I can possibly be. And I will always speak out against ignorant, venal comments. Don't like it benson? Take your own oft-given advice. Don't read my posts.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 26, 2009 1:41 PM
Well, I don't allow people to wear sneakers over to my house. They didn't have them when the home was built so they're not coming into it now!
While I understand people's hiding TV's, personally I feel they are a part of everyday life and not offensive to look at.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 1:41 PM
Posted by: dittoburg at October 26, 2009 1:23 PM
I sincerely hope that others do not fall into the deflective trap being set up here, I know I won't. The discussion of a Dinkins condoned boycott is being compared to isolated criminal acts/hate crimes which were not comparable ( not politically /officially condoned acts). It is unfortunate that the goal of the original baiting poster is being slowly met and some posts may take a petty turn.....
Discussion of why Dinkins failed the city and it's taxpayers does not equate to media hyped race related murders in NYC in the late 80's. That "telling" boycott and it's notorious activist perpetrators are indefensible. What happened to that store owner was an abomination.
Posted by: Crescent Hill at October 26, 2009 1:42 PM
So dave, what's your take on tv's that look like mirrors over the mantleplace?
Posted by: bxgrl at October 26, 2009 1:43 PM
Thanks Denton. It's a color photo that is about 20-30 years old and has some damage (light spots, cracks). I just need the color retouched and the cracks removed and then made into larger sizes (currently it's like 3/6 or something and I need 4x6 and 5x7 made out of it. There used to be that guy Adam with his photo shop on 5th near 17th, but he and his wife closed it down and opened up a wine shop instead :-(
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 1:43 PM
THL, I'll be sure to polish my boot buckles. Do you have a boot scraper out front lest I track the horse manure in from the street. I do hope you have a carriage stone for me to step out upon.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 1:44 PM
quote:
Why don't you go and scream on some smokers and fat people or something??
LOL!
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 1:44 PM
I'll tell you my own theory on the Crown Heights disturbances and the Korean boycott. I have not a shred of evidence to support it, of course. Well, maybe a few shreds, see below. Other than the fact that Dinkins consistently denies telling the NYPD to 'hold back'.
My theory is that the NYPD deliberately and intentionally did nothing so as to embarrass Dinkins, whom as we all know was hated by them.
Can we remember the famous NYPD police riot in which Dinkins was referred to as a 'washerwoman' on the steps of City Hall? Rudy aided and abetted the riot.
From the Washington Post:
"A 600-page report from the state's commissioner of criminal justice detailed numerous instances of breakdowns in communication between police at the scene of the rioting and top brass, mishandling of 911 calls and inexplicable delays in moving to quell violence."
"INEXPLICABLE". Yup.
Posted by: denton at October 26, 2009 1:45 PM
Absolutely NOT, bxgrl. They still look like TVs. As you yourself have seen, a nice painting of a reclining nude woman is appropriate for over the mantle.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 1:46 PM
I have a carriage stone, but alas no boot scraper!
I love that the stone is still there but can I tell you how many times I've tripped or stubbed my toe on that GD thing!!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 1:46 PM
"CarG: how is your dog doing?"
G10, thanks for asking. She's about the same. She's infinitely smarter than I am, so she quickly figured out I'm "lacing" her food (wet food, cheese slices, treats) with pain meds, and obviously doesn't like the taste, so not only does she spit out the pills, but wouldn't eat. Limp is the same, so I'm going to give it a couple more days, and, if need be, take her XRays. I just hate to have her knocked out.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 1:47 PM
Denton;
The PBA endorsed Dinkins when he ran against Giuliani the first time.
Posted by: benson at October 26, 2009 1:48 PM
THL, you don't need a boot scraper...that's what your scullery made is for! Let her pull some overtime...or is she unionized and refusing to scrape boots now? LOL
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 1:48 PM
"Do you have a boot scraper out front"
Dave, one day when I was working in the garden, I unearthed an antique boot scraper (no idea how old) in the form of a Daschund.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 1:50 PM
carG: aww poor thing - what's her name?
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 1:50 PM
Believe it or not, we have a wrought iron CAT boot scraper in Philly, the real antique one where the tail is up and that bolts to the house.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 1:50 PM
"To me, it is a very frightening thing when racially-charged violence as a means of protest is condoned by the government. "
benson, good thing you weren't around from say 1776 thru 1970?
You would have been frightened the whole time.
Posted by: denton at October 26, 2009 1:50 PM
snappy, I could take a crack at it. if you want to drop it by, drop me a line.
Posted by: denton at October 26, 2009 1:52 PM
Aw come on Denton, we're talking about NYC, for Pete's sake. What does the situation down South have to do with this discussion?
Posted by: benson at October 26, 2009 1:52 PM
Look at bodhi being back in OT and at full posting mode.
Denton, I actually need the same thing as Snappy. got some very old photos from parents of my grandparents and I want to scan them somewhere and be able to make good quality copies of them. If you find someone who does this sort of thing in BK, I would love to hear it. I might need to get them resized as well so good quality scan job will help me greatly.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 26, 2009 1:53 PM
Posted by: denton at October 26, 2009 1:45 PM
Denton- Your post is very telling. I can't believe you even posted that non-sense theory and capped it off by saying Giuliani aids and abets riots...
Like I said , the discussion may take a petty urn, but it just ran off the road.
Posted by: Crescent Hill at October 26, 2009 1:54 PM
Posted by: denton at October 26, 2009 1:45 PM
Denton- Your post is very telling. I can't believe you even posted that non-sense theory and capped it off by saying Giuliani aids and abets riots...
Like I said , the discussion may take a petty turn, but it just ran off the road.
Posted by: Crescent Hill at October 26, 2009 1:54 PM
Rob, its cute for the same reasons we think you're cute when you got confused too.
Posted by: dittoburg at October 26, 2009 1:54 PM
The Daschund had originally been bolted down - it was still attached to old masonry when I unearthed it. I didn't reattach it though, and kept it when I sold the house.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 1:56 PM
I would love to get an antique boot scraper.
CGar- I'm sorry your dog is so smart (???). Don't sound quite right does it? I do hope she starts to feel better soon and that you don't have to escalate the treatments.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 1:56 PM
Thanks Denton...I'll drop you an email later.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 1:57 PM
"carG: aww poor thing - what's her name?"
G10, on the OT she's either CGar-dog, or CDog for short. Check your email for her name (seriously). Yeah, I get the sad look all the time, and I would do anything to make her feel better, but there's not much I can do, especially if I can't get her to take her pain meds (and I've tried everything).
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 1:58 PM
kens, I can easily resize and reprint the photos. I can fix minor damage as well, but there are people who are much better than me. Depends on how bad they are.
Posted by: denton at October 26, 2009 1:59 PM
Funny Condom Ad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLuck4Xydmo&feature=related
Durex created other great ads.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 26, 2009 2:01 PM
ENY, M4L or anyone else who watches football
Is anyone else creeped the EFF out when Tony Dungy is commentating? He is extremely awkward and gives the camera a death stare when he isn't speaking. I'm sure I wouldn't appear anymore comfortable on national television, but it's really distracting.
I love Dungy though - he seems like a really nice, awesome dude.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 26, 2009 2:02 PM
I guess its ok to bash Dinkins but not ok to bash Guiliani. Guess freedom of speech and the right to an opinion is only allowed to some people.
Crescent Hill- any racial incident is an abomination- don't you agree? And wouldn't you agree that a boycott, as nasty as it was, is not the same as murder? Not to mention, Fred MacKray, a Black teacher broke that boycott. As for Al Sharpton- ugh. I have nothing good to say about him or what he did.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 26, 2009 2:02 PM
hey, how about the disappoint levied on the G-Men? have to hit them with following label but it's fitting - G-Men are currently PAPER TIGER
Posted by: more4less at October 26, 2009 2:02 PM
I'm telling you photo people — go to Kellards!! I've used them, they are reasonable, and nice to work with.
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 26, 2009 2:03 PM
This outtake from the above ad is cuuuute.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwWXhEXZglY&feature=related
Posted by: brownjokester at October 26, 2009 2:06 PM
Carg - ok I emailed you back!
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 2:06 PM
And I will always speak out against ignorant, venal comments,Posted by: bxgrl at October 26, 2009 1:41 PM
You must talk to yourself all day long.
Posted by: Crescent Hill at October 26, 2009 2:06 PM
cobble- i have a wonderful old photo- over 100 years old and it's crumbling. Can they stabilize it- the photo itself is in great condition.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 26, 2009 2:06 PM
DH, as currently structured, Dungy's role is really not needed - ie not enough oppty to leverage his coach's analysis, break-down,..... he doesn't creep me out but definitely not enough personality to be in front of camera
Posted by: more4less at October 26, 2009 2:07 PM
g10, Knicks still undefeated.
Posted by: more4less at October 26, 2009 2:07 PM
i wish robots (like made of metal and electronic bits) could be mayor and president and all forms of electorate. im sorry but every single race on planet Earth just blows.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 2:08 PM
M4L - good
anyone who is black or married/dating someone black NEEDS to see Good Hair - the documentary by Chris Rock
it was eye-opening/informative and funny
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 2:10 PM
rob, robot's programming a reflection of it's creator so logic will be biased/flawed toward the human programmer.
Posted by: more4less at October 26, 2009 2:11 PM
"Montrose: Why don't you come along, as you have done before, and tell me that I'm taking this personally????"
Benson, you are taking this, like you take ALL arguments, personally. For the record, bxgrl was talking about being called names while walking down the street with her black husband, during the Howard Beach incident. How that equates with YOU ruining her marriage is up in your head somewhere, not hers, not mine.She said, and I quote, "people with blindspots like yours made my married life hell..." I don't see where she said "Benson, you are one of those SOBs responsible for......" That would be personal. This is clearly not.
Further more, if you can comment till the cows come home about how awful Dinkins, Obama, and anyone else is, and you do it any chance you get, then I am just as entitled to vent my opinion of Giuliani, or anyone else, as is everyone else here. Only in your mind, where everyone is picking on you, or no one respects your opinion is that a personal attack. Perhaps its because Crescent Hill, fsrg, Legion, and others don't take every difference of opinion as a personal affront, and get all huffy about how awful everyone else on Brownstoner is for not sticking up for you, or complain about some non-existent conspiratorial "amen choir", that I can argue with them, and it's not a big deal. We don't agree. So what. I also stand by my remarks about Giuliani, too.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at October 26, 2009 2:11 PM
I bet there's no racism at the Park Slope Food Coop.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 2:11 PM
anyone who is black or married/dating someone black NEEDS to see Good Hair - the documentary by Chris Rock
it was eye-opening/informative and funny
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 2:10 PM
What about someone just having NSA sex???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 2:14 PM
g10, btw, I keep saying that cause regular season hasn't started yet - ie no games played hence undefeated is an accurate statement
Posted by: more4less at October 26, 2009 2:15 PM
dibs, I was gonna ask her what about if you're dating a bald man, but... but here I am doing it.
Posted by: denton at October 26, 2009 2:16 PM
"And I will always speak out against ignorant, venal comments,Posted by: bxgrl at October 26, 2009 1:41 PM
You must talk to yourself all day long."
Crescent Hill, that was uncalled for, and WAS personal. Not cool at all.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at October 26, 2009 2:17 PM
M4L - i just hope they can keep that record going!!
Dibs - ha!!! - sureeeeeeeeee
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 2:18 PM
Oh no crescent- I am too busy having conversations with racist, ignorant jerks such as yourself. since I only disagreed with you and certainly didn't insult you in any way, your comment only points up to your immaturity- you don't surprise me at all.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 26, 2009 2:18 PM
lol i saw some interviews at on the good hair movie.
seriously, ladies with fros, just let it grow wild and free and stop wasting a gazillion dollars on weaves and wigs that could be spent on things much more important. do you really want white lady hair anyway? ick!
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 2:19 PM
oh Denton......
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 2:19 PM
No comment. The post speaks for itself.
On to the cats!
Posted by: benson at October 26, 2009 2:19 PM
"i wish robots (like made of metal and electronic bits) could be mayor and president and all forms of electorate."
Rob, haven't you heard Bloomberg speak? If that's not robotic I'm not sure what is.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 2:19 PM
"Actually, I agree with this. In a restored period home, there shouldn't be a visible TV in the living room and dining room areas. Find a room to devote to the TV apart from these. I've had panelled cabinets built into walls in my obsession to be able to cover that big blinking box from the 18th & 19th C furnishings."
DIBS -- Our seller's contractor once tried to convince us that electricity in the dining room wasn't appropriate in a restored period home.
Posted by: slopefarm at October 26, 2009 2:20 PM
denton is dating a bald man?
Posted by: bxgrl at October 26, 2009 2:21 PM
Thanks for the Belleville review, G10. Seems like everything is back to normal.
Posted by: denton at October 26, 2009 2:22 PM
"im sorry but every single race on planet Earth just blows."
What have you got against Congo pygmies?
Posted by: dittoburg at October 26, 2009 2:22 PM
bloomberg is more of a frog than a robot. he totally sounds like kermit the frog, it's creepy. i hate him and hope he DIAF's but he's a good business man and probably good for the city in general. i dont trust democrats.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 2:23 PM
Was there a chandelier, slope??? I can't think of anything that would be needed in the dining room that would be plugged into the wall.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 2:23 PM
dibs- i did see one of those mirror tvs done really well, set ito an antique fram. When it was off, it looked like a mirror over the fireplace- you couldn't tell at all.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 26, 2009 2:24 PM
rob- the only reason he is a Republican now is becuase he didn't win the Democratic Primary and in order to run for Mayor, ran on the republican ticket.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 26, 2009 2:25 PM
"denton is dating a bald man?"
I wouldn't mind dating Grace Jones, then I wouldn't have to see the movie either :-)
Posted by: denton at October 26, 2009 2:26 PM
denton - riiight - I think it was you who wasn't into Belleville as of late. Yeah, my experience cements my never returning again........
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 2:26 PM
Posted by: bxgrl at October 26, 2009 2:18 PM
Like I said, your number I have got. And you do not disappiont... I was waiting for one of those remarks to be attributed to me ( and you know which one) and you came through like I knew you would....
and Montrose, that's OK, I'm cool with not being cool.
Posted by: Crescent Hill at October 26, 2009 2:29 PM
"This argument comes up all the time on here..."if you don't like corn stalks on the sidewalks, this is nyc..." i don't really think it's an actual argument. It basically says, if you don't like something you should leave, instead of stand up for yourself and what you feel is appropriate, or try to work out a compromise. I don't get it, why should I leave just because I don't like something, or just suck it up and deal with it?"
Quote of the Day to Bodhi.
Take it to an extreme: Someone decides to run a jackhammer all day in the apartment above you for 24 hours a day. Do you tell yourself it's New York, expect to deal with noise?
Or a friend gets mugged or assaulted on the streets. Do you say, "it's New York, it happens"? Of course these things are far worse than helicopter overhead and, if it's the worst thing one has to deal with all day, one must have a pretty great life. But the point is, as Bodhi said, we don't have to just accept it. I've noticed too the copters are now becoming a constant presence in Brooklyn Heights and people have a right to be pissed about it and try to do something to lessen the disturbance.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 26, 2009 2:30 PM
"
Is anyone else creeped the EFF out when Tony Dungy is commentating? He is extremely awkward and gives the camera a death stare when he isn't speaking."
Yes, I agree. He is obviously extremely astute when it comes to football, but he seems so stiff and wooden he creeps me out. Also he is an anti-gay religious type (which not everyone knows) and I don't like that, either. But no doubt he knows his football.
Posted by: East New York at October 26, 2009 2:32 PM
"Can they stabilize it- the photo itself is in great condition."
Now I guess you're talking about restoring and preservation. That's different than taking a photo scanning it and retouching the file, and out-put of restored image.
For restoring and preservation, I know there companies that can attach an acid-free backing and glue to the image to support the original paper, and can recommend ways to store them to reduce further deterioration, I just haven't worked with any, so cannot recommend. [My experience is limited to original artwork - drawings, paintings] You could also try calling Talas, and ask if they recommend anyone. Failing any of that, I can call a book restorer I know and ask him who he might know.
http://www.talas-nyc.com/
Whatever you do, do not use tape on it or glue it to anything. And try to avoid putting it in one of those regular photo albums with the plastic sleeves, the image itself may lose/flake off onto the plastic. Use archival board or paper to store it. That's the limit of my understanding in terms of photography.
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 26, 2009 2:33 PM
DIBS -- it is not a formal house. What the seller was shaping up as an open kitchen/dining room was probably one bedroom and a bathroom. And we hadn't contracted for a period renovation. We had contracted for filed work renovated to code. He just didn't want to do it. He said we should be carrying candles up and down the stairs at night like they did back then, and he was only half kidding. As you know, we ended up in court.
Posted by: slopefarm at October 26, 2009 2:36 PM
"I've noticed too the copters are now becoming a constant presence in Brooklyn Heights and people have a right to be pissed about it and try to do something to lessen the disturbance."
Biff, you're just pissed because you were late for the heliport this morning, and I had to take off for Manhattan without you.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 2:37 PM
The two Northwest pilots that overshot the runway (and the whole city for that matter) were apparently distracted because they were both on their laptops.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 2:37 PM
quote:
Or a friend gets mugged or assaulted on the streets. Do you say, "it's New York,
Yes.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 2:38 PM
They must have been posting on B'Stoner.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 2:40 PM
"The two Northwest pilots that overshot the runway (and the whole city for that matter) were apparently distracted because they were both on their laptops."
Or maybe one was on top of the other's lap? Cue the overshooting the runway re-write.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 26, 2009 2:40 PM
Denton, thanks for the offer!! It's no correcting at all needed for the photos. I just need them scanned and resized and/or re-printed (it's about 7-10 photos I think). If you are willing to help me with it, we need to work out a barter deal as I would feel really uncomfortable just asking for a favor with nothing in return. no homo.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 26, 2009 2:41 PM
"The two Northwest pilots that overshot the runway (and the whole city for that matter) were apparently distracted because they were both on their laptops."
Maybe regular Brownstoner posters? I wonder if that will be the end of in-flight wifi, before it even 'gets off the ground'.
Posted by: denton at October 26, 2009 2:41 PM
I wish the helicopters would buzz my neighborhood constantly and thus make it unusable for the damn omnipresent movie shoots.
Posted by: dittoburg at October 26, 2009 2:41 PM
THL, thanks. If the limp persists, I'll probably go to the next step if only to learn if it might be something more serious. And if the Vet has to knock her out, he'll clean her teeth at the same time. If it's arthritis, then she'll have to learn to live with it (as will I, lol).
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 2:42 PM
kens, I do that all the time for people. Easy enough. Drop me an email denton at speakeasy dot net
Posted by: denton at October 26, 2009 2:43 PM
Will ya look at that! Just went to the Talas website and they have a database of conservators.
http://www.talas-nyc.com/db/searchbusiness.cfm
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 26, 2009 2:43 PM
"Or a friend gets mugged or assaulted on the streets. Do you say, "it's New York,
Yes."
With friends like that...
"Biff, you're just pissed because you were late for the heliport this morning, and I had to take off for Manhattan without you."
CGar, I didn't know I was expected. Usually I get told to go to hell, not to go to the heliport.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 26, 2009 2:44 PM
"CGar, I didn't know I was expected"
Well, certainly. How else does one get to Manhattan if not by private chopper. (And I'd never tell you to go to HEL-iport. Certainly not to your face. ; )
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 2:47 PM
"limp persists"
I think that should be the OT motto.
Posted by: dittoburg at October 26, 2009 2:47 PM
"Cue the overshooting the runway re-write"
And, I was going to say something about "shooting over the runway", but Biff blew it for me
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 2:50 PM
Thanks Denton! Will email you once I look through the photos and pick which ones I need. Thanks again!
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 26, 2009 2:52 PM
"limp persists"
How about "lame persists"?
"but Biff blew it for me"
(no homo)
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 26, 2009 2:53 PM
sounds like an overgrown landing strip
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 26, 2009 2:53 PM
Any of you watch "Alex's Day Off" on Food TV??? Chef Alex Guarnaschelli lives in brooklyn and does lots of scenes in Brooklyn. There have been a few shots of her beautiful limestone somewhere.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 2:54 PM
"Just went to the Talas website"
Cobble, are you getting BH a new tallis? I thought you were going to bring one back from Israel?
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 2:54 PM
LOL. Sorry. (No homo)
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 2:55 PM
CG - I always take my 1930's seaplane and land at Hudson Piers. Helicopters are déclassé.
Posted by: dittoburg at October 26, 2009 2:55 PM
Hey DH! How goes the packing? BTW, I posted earlier about Hipster Kickball in McCarren Park.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 2:59 PM
"Cobble, are you getting BH a new tallis? I thought you were going to bring one back from Israel?"
Yes, I'm getting him a new one, the old one was looking a bit shabby [not Shabbat]. ; )
Trip is a no go, do you think UJC would sponsor us?
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 26, 2009 3:00 PM
Saving up for a jetpack myself...
Posted by: infinitejester at October 26, 2009 3:01 PM
I only use the helicopter when commuting weekends to my house in Newport:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/The_Breakers_rear.jpg
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 26, 2009 3:01 PM
"Trip is a no go, do you think UJC would sponsor us?"
I thought you were going with Cobble Hill Hadassah? And weren't you supposed to work in the Tel Aviv Food Co-op and Kibbutz when you were there?
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 3:02 PM
Cobble, That's such a quaint little place you have there.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 3:02 PM
denton...just added these to my IRA...some are additional purchases of already owned names... Yields shown
CHT 5.93%
VZ 6.51%
MRK 4.62%
MCD 3.7%
TLK 6.59%
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 3:04 PM
Where is the Park Slope Kibbutz?
Posted by: dittoburg at October 26, 2009 3:05 PM
"Cobble, That's such a quaint little place you have there."
It's just a little place we like to go to relax! It's not quite big enough for us though, we're feeling a bit cramped at the moment, any thoughts on where to look? Maybe Versailles would be better? LOL! ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 26, 2009 3:07 PM
Directly behind the PS Food Co-op, ditto. I love the Co-op thread. Not only do people take the Co-op too seriously, but they're taking the author and article too seriously as well. People need to lighten up a bit. [Ducks for cover]
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 3:07 PM
I think we may get a meltup in stocks at one point.. Good if you are ready to get in and out at the right time........
Posted by: HOBOKENROCKS at October 26, 2009 3:08 PM
"Where is the Park Slope Kibbutz?"
Not sure, but I know where the Williamsburg kibbitzer is!
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 26, 2009 3:08 PM
CGar, as usual, you go to far.
I told them about eating knishes and matzoh, but they looked askance at this for some reason. My membership was rejected. How do you work at a Kibbutz? I'm already pretty chatty! ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 26, 2009 3:12 PM
"kibbitzer"
Never previously heard of that word - I love the use of "meddlesome" in the dictionary description I looked up:
"To look on and offer unwanted, usually meddlesome advice to others."
Posted by: dittoburg at October 26, 2009 3:12 PM
WOW - Hoboken Rocks - where you been?
are you saying I should make changes to the 401K now? Am 70% invested in stocks....
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 3:15 PM
G10;
May I give you some advice regarding your 401K? One should never take investment advice from anyone on the internet. If you are uncertain what to do, you need to read up. This is a serious matter, not suitable for an internet chat room.
Posted by: benson at October 26, 2009 3:18 PM
gemini....don't try to time the market especially with a 401k...your investment decisions on that should be based upon age and point of retirement.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 3:19 PM
"My membership was rejected."
By whom, Cobble? I want names. (Too far? Moi?)
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 3:20 PM
Gemini ,,, I visit every once in a while.. I actually called the top of the market the other day.. I wrote that I was selling as the market hit 1097 and since then we are down close to 3 percent... As for investing in this market, It is hard to tell.. If the government takes away the stimulus , I would jump ship in a second...If they keep the printer flowing , than investing in the market is the way to go... But you have to have a fast finger..
Posted by: HOBOKENROCKS at October 26, 2009 3:23 PM
There's a lurker who just texted me and wants to know what no homo means.
Too lazy to text it so here goes..it's what straight people say when something they do or say might be misconstrued as gay. For example brushing up against someone or saying some of the comments we see here.
text me back and we'll have dinner at Saraghina together like we planned. homo
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 3:23 PM
What happens at the Park Slope food coop if you need to go to the can during your shift? Is there a penalty? Measured in arugula or kohlrabi perhaps?
Posted by: dittoburg at October 26, 2009 3:23 PM
Ditto, I was thinking of it more like when people use the term to describe an outgoing jokester. I didn't even realize it's official definition was what you said. Here's an old movie called The Kibitzer.
http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/97646/The-Kibitzer/overview
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 26, 2009 3:23 PM
your investment decisions on that should be based upon age and point of retirement.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 3:19 PM
Best advice yet for G10. Plus reading up will not hurt- A few years back a senior manager, John Brennan of Vanguard, wrote a book called " Common Sense on Mutual Funds", consult this book and you will not be disappionted.
Posted by: Crescent Hill at October 26, 2009 3:26 PM
DIBS - have you heard of the term "broner". no homo.
Hobokenrocks, stop kibitzing.
Posted by: dittoburg at October 26, 2009 3:26 PM
"CGar, as usual, you go to far"
P.S. Says the woman who weekends at The Breakers!
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 3:28 PM
Benson/Dibs
I know..... - I was being facietious(sp)
PS - have actually done pretty OK in my 401K thus far and am pretty happy with even my basic knowledge of what and how to invest in it
so am all good!
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 3:30 PM
Gemini;
In addition to the book that CH recommends, I would add a book that is published yearly by Dun and Bradstreet called "Guide to Your Investments". It is meant for the novice, and provides a great perspective on the whole topic.
My last piece of advice: When something sounds too good to be true, it IS too good to be true.
Posted by: benson at October 26, 2009 3:30 PM
I had not ditto, but being the intelligent guy I am just looked it up on Urban Dictionary. I suspect it's just a rest stop on the highway to Gay Town.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 3:31 PM
G10;
Good! BTW: I fully agree about Belleville. I HATE that place.
Posted by: benson at October 26, 2009 3:32 PM
DIBS, I thought there were a few Japanese names you liked.
(No Sumitomo)
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 26, 2009 3:33 PM
DIBS sounds like a mutual fund manager.. Long term investing has killed many investors.. Don't do it with all your money... If you are too busy to invest your own money than get a advisor.. Don't just dump money into a 401k...
WHAT IS KIBITZING
Posted by: HOBOKENROCKS at October 26, 2009 3:36 PM
benson - hahaha! totes mcgotes!
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 3:36 PM
I can't believe this place blocks "Urban Dictionary"! I just got a "RESTRICTED" site warning.
Anyone here watch Brothers & Sisters? They folded a Madoff-like Ponzi scheme into the plot line last night.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 3:37 PM
crescent hill- Why don't you quote exactly what comment you think I made regarding you? My comments were in reference to benson's, not yours. But hey, if its paranoia you got, run with it.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 26, 2009 3:38 PM
"Long term investing has killed many investors.. "
HR;
Would you please explain how so?
Posted by: benson at October 26, 2009 3:38 PM
"WHAT IS KIBITZING"
I always thought it was understood more as "joking around".
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 26, 2009 3:38 PM
"suspect it's just a rest stop on the highway to Gay Town"
Ha!
Posted by: dittoburg at October 26, 2009 3:40 PM
ok so hubby and I went to check out a condo open house in Park Slope and were told by the brokers that the developers were entertaining ALL offers. The broker is like - "put in any offer and the developer will consider it" -Ps the bldg is more than 50% full
so that being said - should I offer a price that's $150K off what they are asking - it's a 2br in the mid 600K range
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 3:40 PM
ok now I get kibitzing.. Holding any investment long term is crazy.Unless you do your homework and think the investment is still a smart one.. 401K's are a good tool for tax purposes and for a good retirement..But mutual funds are not allowed to hedge.. I think in this market it is a must... ASK DIBS WHO RUNS A HEDGE FUND...
Posted by: HOBOKENROCKS at October 26, 2009 3:47 PM
it can't hurt gemini. If you like it. That said, read the thread today on the woes of the new development in Williamsburg. I reiterate my rant...Do Not buy into a new development unless the developer has a long record of sound buildings. I think that generally speaking, condo conversions of old buildings face far fewer potential structural issues. A lot of these issues are things that will not be evident to an inspector like the seals on windows deteriorating, roof leaks that occur after a year or the curtain wall of the building (facade) starting to fall offf or settling issues
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 3:48 PM
Why not G10? What do you have to lose? The worst they'll do is refuse your offer and not counter. Happened to me this summer on a greatly overpriced co-op. I made a strong and serious offer, but well below ask (about 20%); the seller, who has never occupied the apartment, wouldn't counter, and it's been sitting on the market for 13 months and counting with no price reduction. I'm patient. I can wait. Or I'll find something else. As I said, you have nothing to lose.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 3:49 PM
Gemini- I know a contractor who has told me most of his work these days is in new construction- doing repairs. Leaks, deterioration, crumbling facades. Dave i right- look at their record.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 26, 2009 3:50 PM
im going to join the park slope coop just for sh-ts and giggles. and im totally going to wear a long blonde wig during my shift.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 3:52 PM
g10, if you're willing to do deal at 150k off, offer them 250k off. who knows, they might accept 250k off? it's better for them to work you up from your low ball offer than it's for you to get them to agree to your's.
Posted by: more4less at October 26, 2009 3:52 PM
Thanks all! - totally - we want to make sure anything we buy is a sound and smart investment, also oneof the key things we are concerned with is a building's reserves and the overlying mortgage on the bldg...
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 3:54 PM
Dibs is right about not buying new construction.. I have heard of alot of problems with some of the new construction in NJ...
Posted by: HOBOKENROCKS at October 26, 2009 3:54 PM
Sorry Bxgrl- Kind of done w/ you for today....nice try though.
Posted by: Crescent Hill at October 26, 2009 3:55 PM
In other words- you can't. S'ok- I forgive you :)
Posted by: bxgrl at October 26, 2009 3:57 PM
buy & hold forever - wake up and pull out the Wall St koolaid IV. I often wonder if why the Wall St pro's tell us to hold forever is because they need us to hold the bag as they trade the markets.
Posted by: more4less at October 26, 2009 3:57 PM
"im going to join the park slope coop just for sh-ts and giggles"
I'm going to join, and pay *rob* minimum wage to work my 3 hours for me, just for sport.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 3:58 PM
No one is saying hold anything forever. I'm saying that most people, including the professionals cannot time the market very well.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 4:00 PM
"I'm saying that most people, including the professionals cannot time the market very well."
I agree 1000%.
Posted by: benson at October 26, 2009 4:01 PM
M4L-
the asking price is $679K - we were going to offer $500K but ask for closing costs to be paid in full(as broker said the developer would also be willing to do that as well) AND ask for the parking spot at half of what they were asking
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 4:02 PM
Isn't it a bit silly to say that all new construction should be avoided? DIBS gives good advice: just make sure you are dealing with a reputable sponsor/builder.
Posted by: benson at October 26, 2009 4:03 PM
G10- Now is the time to make lowball offers. After you do that, as you noted be concerned with the reserve fund and/or investments of the corporation as well as the existing mortgage note, if any. Be keenly aware of the percentage of your overall shares in the corporation and ask for a copy of the proprietary lease ( Rulebook) to review prior to more serious consideration. All of the above will help in making a well informed, happy cooperator out of you.
Posted by: Crescent Hill at October 26, 2009 4:05 PM
i really really like the new black townhouses on 1st street between 4th and 5th avenue., im not exactly sure why though. will someone buy me one?
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 4:06 PM
All new construction can't be bad. Is anyone willing to step up and name some good buildings out there? There *must* be some despite popular opinion.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 4:06 PM
Dibs no one can time the market perfectly.. But people can see which direction the market is heading... Especially when you get a double top.. MORE4LESS is 100 percent right.. The only guys that have made money in the stock market over the past 10 years are the guys who work in the companies that do the trading of the market.. Not the investors that pay these idiots.. You ever wonder why these fund managers are not out there playing their own money.. I would have no problem playing other people's money...
Posted by: HOBOKENROCKS at October 26, 2009 4:08 PM
I have timed the market pretty well... :)
Posted by: HOBOKENROCKS at October 26, 2009 4:09 PM
rob...BrooklynGreene has posted in the Coop thread something that i believe says that if you are a member you CAN work other people's required duties. I assume many members are willing to pay for that.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 4:09 PM
i think a lot of people like to hate on new construction merely for the fact that they can't afford it. some people like new things. if someone gave you a pair of roach feces vision goggles and stuck you in an old brownstone, your mind would boggle beyond belief. hundreds of years of roach feces are inside those walls.
ick!
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 4:10 PM
Snappy, the Novo is a great hospital.
There, I've said it.
Posted by: dittoburg at October 26, 2009 4:12 PM
"The only guys that have made money in the stock market over the past 10 years are the guys who work in the companies that do the trading of the market"
HR;
Not true. I am a buy and hold investor, and I have made money in the market. I'm not trying to claim I'm a superstar, but I HAVE made money from a buy and hold strategy.
Posted by: benson at October 26, 2009 4:12 PM
"Where are the customers' yachts?"
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 4:12 PM
Crescent Hill - thanks -but I think you are thinking of co-op rules. Condos - you don;t own a percentage of a corporattion, you own the a parcel of land
Rob - seriously I like those black buildings myself
remmeber I live in the Mcdonalds bldg now - hahahah and I am a douche or something you called us peeps who live in that bldg....
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 4:13 PM
"***...as is paying someone minimum wage to do your hours...that's just gross and misses the point. [Also, understand someone can work your hours for you, but that person needs to be a member as well.]"
ROFL, Dave! BrooklynGreeene posted that in response to my joke about paying someone to work my hours if I joined. I just glanced at her posts. Why am I NOT surprised she's a "squad leader"?!
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 4:13 PM
quote:
rob...BrooklynGreene has posted in the Coop thread something that i believe says that if you are a member you CAN work other people's required duties. I assume many members are willing to pay for that.
lol as IF i would sacrifice my precious beanbag time so muffy and chad's adopted gay fathers have more time to pick our precious nickel plated faucets. :-/
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 4:14 PM
quote:
rob...BrooklynGreene has posted in the Coop thread something that i believe says that if you are a member you CAN work other people's required duties. I assume many members are willing to pay for that.
lol as IF i would sacrifice my precious beanbag time so muffy and chad's adopted gay fathers have more time to pick our precious nickel plated faucets. :-/
out
pick OUT
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 4:14 PM
ROFL Ditto!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 4:14 PM
Snappy;
I think you will get 100 opinions on any builder your bring up here in contenious Brownstoner world. My advice would be to talk to folks who have bought into complexes previously built by the builder. These folks put their money on the line, so their opinion is most valid.
Posted by: benson at October 26, 2009 4:15 PM
lol as IF i would sacrifice my precious beanbag time so muffy and chad's adopted gay fathers have more time to pick our precious nickel plated faucets. :-/
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 4:14 PM
HEY, I have nickel plated faucets in my ensuite master bath.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 4:16 PM
oh gemini i was just being a hater when i said that hahaha
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 4:17 PM
Snaps as far as new construction goes:
I think 41 Park Place was done well and sold out in about 4 months
I think 587 Washington was done well
I think my own rental isn't too shabby(the elan) all jokes aside - it's not thaaat bad
am totalllly bored with some of the 16th street condos
our price range isn't above 700K for a 2 BR so am not privy to other developments units
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 4:17 PM
rob - hate on, hatah!
hahaha
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 4:18 PM
True Benson. I guess in this arena, the armchair warriors and sideline sammies can say a lot of stuff but really don't know unless they live there and put there money where their mouth is on this one. It's always easy to knock something when one has no real knowledge of it.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 4:19 PM
i've noticed that nickel plated faucets seem to be a gay thing. lol
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 4:19 PM
Rob, I would sign up with you JUST so I can make fun of BrooklynGreene for her/his crazy rants that take up 45 pages on brownstoner. Pain in an ass to scroll through on blackberries. My ball doesn't scroll anymore because of her/him (no homo)!!!
I can only imagine BG as a "squad leader" lol. Prolly NEVER shuts up. She occupies and entire 33 person shift all by her/himself.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 26, 2009 4:20 PM
Some of the 16th st. condos look weird to me, but at the end of the day, whether or not the bldgs will hold up matters far more than exterior aesthetics.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 4:21 PM
G10_ I did misread, I thought you were looking at Co-ops. Condos are a whole different ball game...yes, you will receive a deed as in real property, not a certificate of shares... Good Luck!
Posted by: Crescent Hill at October 26, 2009 4:22 PM
I live in a Boymelgreen building. Despite all the hate he gets here, I actually like my building alot. The apartments are well layed out, and the level of finish is quite good.
Posted by: benson at October 26, 2009 4:22 PM
personally I think the 2nd street condos around 4th avenue that are brick facade are lovely!
I am not that into the Novo or Crest as I am not diggin their exteriors - but perhaps they are nice inside.
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 4:23 PM
i've noticed that nickel plated faucets seem to be a gay thing. lol
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 4:19 PM
I had a hard time deciding between nickel plated and chrome plated. I went with chrome. Nice to know that if I installed nickel, I would have woke up gay the next day :o).
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 26, 2009 4:24 PM
"Why am I NOT surprised she's a "squad leader"?!"
The crappy haiku she used to post tipped me off. Anyone who writes haiku is not to be trusted.
Posted by: East New York at October 26, 2009 4:24 PM
LOL ken youre so mean hahah sometimes i find myself reading one of her long rants and im like oh okay she had a point, but then sometimes she really does get all hall monitor on peoples butts haha which can be equally as funny. so finding out she's a squad leader (wtf?) it just hysterical beyond words.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 4:24 PM
Kens, I'm with you. I can't skim her posts (maybe she's a he, but I always thought he was a she), let alone read them. I just looked for the part about other people working your hours, and noticed that s/he was deriding my sarcastic post. I especially love it when s/he comes into the "Late Edition" of the OT and chastises the rest of us for spending our days posting - at least we don't post novellas!
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 4:25 PM
The only thing worse than CHOW dogs is KICKBALL!! Yeah, I said it!
Posted by: East New York at October 26, 2009 4:26 PM
"personally I think the 2nd street condos around 4th avenue that are brick facade are lovely! "
Gem;
That's where I live! I live on the 3rd St. side of that complex, facing the park. Come on over!
Posted by: benson at October 26, 2009 4:26 PM
Well, I think the worst thing is....
...nahh, never mind...
;-)
Posted by: benson at October 26, 2009 4:28 PM
ENY
are you kidding with that comment?
Benson - oh I think those are done really nicely!
but they are NEVER any available plus they are probably out of our price range
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 4:29 PM
If we are discussing aesthetics, I really like The Heritage on 2nd St. btwn 4/5 and that Classic Modern bldg on 5th btwn 15/16. I saw some of the apts in the Heritage in person and my only complaint (besides price) was the small size of the living rooms.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 4:29 PM
ENY, you hate kickball? Sigh. First Scooby Doo now kickball. What am I gonna do with you? Your only saving grace with me right now is that you are a fellow big booty appreciator :-)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 4:31 PM
Snappy: have you been inside that Classic Modern Bldg?
am not thrilled with the exterior - but I think each apt has sorta a grassy patio in the back....
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 4:31 PM
Snappy;
I agree. I love the exterior aesthetics of the Heritage.
Posted by: benson at October 26, 2009 4:31 PM
Polished nickel. Brushed nickel is ugly.
I was sitting on the toilet in Bucks County over the weekend and realized that I had 3 ensuite master bathrooms. Only the one here in brooklyn has polished nickel. The other two have polished chrome.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 4:32 PM
i think it's an older condo building, maybe it's rental i dont know, but the Rigas has got to be the fugliest building in the sub slope
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 4:32 PM
for the love of god - who hates Scooby Doo?
now i HATED when they brought on scrappy doo
that move was wack!
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 4:32 PM
"Chows are not particularly nice dogs, nor particularly intelligent."
ENY, you're here! At the risk of sounding like an overprotective "parent", my Chow is a particularly sweet and very smart dog. I never knew they had bad reps until after I took mine in from my sister, whom I credit for doing such a great job socializing her. People stop me constantly and can't believe she's a Chow because she's so friendly.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 4:33 PM
Gem, I haven't been inside the Classic. The lowest level apt has the grass backyard. I don't like the size of those bedrooms in that place but love that backyard and the front of that building. I'm in love with very angular things!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 4:33 PM
Rob - where's the Rigas?
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 4:35 PM
Scrappy Doo was cute but a bit much :)
Benson, I love the Heritage because it just makes that whole street feel like a quaint little town in the midst of Brooklyn. Who designed that?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 4:36 PM
quote:
I was sitting on the toilet in Bucks County over the weekend and realized that I had 3 ensuite master bathrooms.
way too much information. waaaaay too much
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 4:36 PM
Snappy, we both like big butts and we both have asthma, so we are bonded, sister. Don't sweat it. However, we must part ways on kickball and Scooby Doo. I'll bet Scooby Doo probably PLAYED kickball!
One of my dreams is to crash a hipster kickball game by snatching the ball (with my HANDS) and bolting off as uncoordinated kickball-playing hipsters chased me in vain (being hipsters, they could never catch a guy like me). Then I'd take the ball, find Scooby Doo, and wing one off that miserable mutt's ASS! That would make my day. I just may do that.
Posted by: East New York at October 26, 2009 4:36 PM
Rob;
The Rigas is a rental building and was designed that way from the start. I agree with you that it is fugly. That building (on President off 4th Ave) was one of the catalysts that sparked the downzoning of PS. Notice how much higher it is then subsequent buildings.
Posted by: benson at October 26, 2009 4:37 PM
gemini, it's between 4th and 5th on one of the first named streets.. i always get those streets confused even tho i walk them to and from work everyday. it might be connected to a dentist office... i think there are two pumpkins in the window (paper)
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 4:38 PM
"denton...just added these to my IRA...some are additional purchases of already owned names... Yields shown
CHT 5.93%
VZ 6.51%
MRK 4.62%
MCD 3.7%
TLK 6.59%
Hey dibs, thanks for the rec. Believe it or not, the only one I don't own is MRK, I feel I'm a bit overweight in drug stocks, but I keep eying it. Maybe pick it up if the dip continues.
In spite of the sucky markets today, a fave of mine was up 9%, MELA.
Posted by: denton at October 26, 2009 4:38 PM
Snappy;
Sorry, but I don't know who designed the Heritage.
Posted by: benson at October 26, 2009 4:39 PM
"I'll bet Scooby Doo probably PLAYED kickball! "
ROFL!!! No problem...I still luv u man!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 4:39 PM
kickball is fun
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 26, 2009 4:39 PM
"Unless you are in fact a child (age 12 or under), KICKBALL is an idiotic, post-yuppie perversion of sport that allows completely uncoordinated, sport-ignorant people to be marginally athletic. Is it any wonder it's a favorite activity among annoying HIPSTERS in flannel shirts???? Don't get me started!"
ENY, now that I've said my peace on Chows . . . I freely admit that, except for skiing and other individual sports, I pretty much fall into the category of "completely uncoordinated, sport-ignorant people", LOL. But I loved kickball as a kid and think it would be fun to play as an adult. As would dodgeball. And capture the flag. (And if you'd met me, you'd know I am about as unhipsterish as they come.)
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 4:41 PM
G10, why not ask for a 500k discount while you are at it? the developer did say any offers will be entertained after all.
Posted by: stevieb at October 26, 2009 4:41 PM
eny sure is grumpty today. even me, a notorious hater or everything, cant hate scooby doo! but im a huge scooby doo fan. and scrappy doo isnt so bad, an acquired taste i guess.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 4:42 PM
Ya know, I kinda imagine Scooby as more of a flag football kind of pooch :-) Or perhaps he'd take up bowling. Hmmmm...
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 4:42 PM
"ENY are you kidding with that comment?"
Did I SOUND like I was kidding? Check this out (from Wikipedia):
"The Chow typically shows affection only with those it has bonds to, so new visitors to the home should not press their physical attention upon the resident Chow as it will not immediately accept strangers in the same manner as it does members of its own pack. Inexperienced dog owners should beware of how Chow Chows encounter those it perceives as strangers; their notoriety is so established that many homeowner's insurance companies will not cover dogs from this breed."
AND
"They rank 76th in Stanley Coren's The Intelligence of Dogs, being of the lowest degree of working/obedience intelligence."
I'll bet Scooby Doo is actually a Chow. A Chow who plays kickball!
Posted by: East New York at October 26, 2009 4:43 PM
Hey CarGar, I'm just kidding around (mostly). I really hope your Chow is OK! I'm sure he/she is a great dog.
Posted by: East New York at October 26, 2009 4:45 PM
Well StevieB - first time poster AND your first post is on the the OT as well - very interesting
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 4:46 PM
ENY, I think you've just been playing kickball with the wrong people! Most. Fun. Ever!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 4:46 PM
I already own LLY (5.78%) TSM (4.52%) PFE (3.74%), PHI (5.97%) and SO (5.37%) the only other yield vehicle i own is NCV (12.4%)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 4:46 PM
ENY, Chows are actually very smart. It's just after being the national dish of China for several thousand years, they are a little suspicious of people. Anyways, they are a serious dog, unlike the namby pamby French bulldog.
Posted by: Heather at October 26, 2009 4:46 PM
What about all the bubble-butt investment bankers who get together every spring and try to play in softball leagues?
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 26, 2009 4:47 PM
Geesh ENY - why the hate on Chows?
why not pick some other dog breed to rag on?
Chows can be verry affectionate and lovely. sure, they are aloof to strangers - but um I wouldn't want to be petted by strangers in the street either.....
for the record -I love kickball and Scooby doo - especially when they had Phylis Diller on
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 4:48 PM
the dog i walked in high school at the office i worked out for 2 years was a chow. i remember him being kinda grumpy in general.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 4:49 PM
"bubble-butt investment bankers who get together every spring and try to play in softball leagues?"
ROTFLMMFAO!!! Nothing like a bubble butt IB in a "Jackie's Fifth Amendment" jersey and ill-fitting shorts :-)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 4:51 PM
OMFG i just read this.. i think im going to start being a dog walker on my lunch hour!
and Soho dog walker Eddie Bimonte earns about $4,000 a month, $230 a day. "My job is to make sure they pee and poop," he explains. "I love it when they poop
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 4:52 PM
"DIBS sounds like a mutual fund manager.. Long term investing has killed many investors.. Don't do it with all your money... If you are too busy to invest your own money than get a advisor.. Don't just dump money into a 401k..."
HR, I usually agree with you, but not today. First thing, what adviser? Pls tell me how many advisers got their clients in cash somewhere around 10/8/2007? How many avoided the NASDAQ bubble? How many did both?
You may be good at short-term trading but for the vast majority of people that's a fools game.
Hardly any 401ks give you good options anyway. You can't trade individual stocks, buy options, short, or any of that good stuff. And in fact most people don't want to do that and can't do that.
Long term investing will still work if you use the proper asset allocation. While the 10 year return on equities is still around zero, if you had 30% or more in bonds like most people should, you'll be ahead of the game today.
Speaking of advisers, the best advice I can give is to avoid them like the plague. Put the equities portion of your 401k in an S&P index fund. You gonna argue with me on that???
Last but not least, whenever you leave a job, ALWAYS take your 401k with you and roll it over into an acct with Fidelity, Schwab, etc, where you can play with some or all of the money if you see fit.
Posted by: denton at October 26, 2009 4:54 PM
c'mon CGar...I saw you riding that old bike wearing funny sneakers a wool cap and grungy tshirt to the heliport. So don't tell me not no hipster.
Posted by: Petebklyn at October 26, 2009 4:56 PM
I was just kidding about Chows, really. I pretty much like all dogs (except Scooby Doo). Heather, that's a good point about the food thing....never thought of it that way. However, French bulldogs have an air of class and self-confidence that has never been attached to the Chow, and in addition are truly friendly dogs. Not so for Mr. Chow.
Posted by: East New York at October 26, 2009 4:56 PM
ENY, not a problem. I can't argue with their bad reps. I can only say my Chow defies the breed in terms of both personality and intelligence. That line about "not immediately accepting strangers" totally does NOT apply to her. She can't pass someone on the sidewalk without doing a U-turn and trying to go meet them, and then all she does is wag her tail and try and jump up on the person and lick their face with her black tongue. I personally think it all depends on how a dog - any dog - is socialized, though there are clearly more typical breed-specific characteristics.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 4:57 PM
ENY, you AntiScooby-ite! LOL
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 4:59 PM
Most people are afraid of Akitas. I had one when I lived in Chicago. He weighed in at around 140 lbs. Lots of people were afraid of him to a certain extent. He was however great at his main job when we were walking , which was to get to meet new people, mainly guys!!!
When I moved to NYC there was another big one near me on East 54th Street. I came around the corner one morning and ran into him being walked and he jumped on me with paws over my shoulder and began licking. Had I not had an Akita myself I think I would have freaked. They are not always so good with other dogs though.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 5:00 PM
"bubble-butt investment bankers who get together every spring and try to play in softball leagues?"
I'm surprised at you, DH. As a knowledgeable sports fan, you know full well that even the fattest, most bubble-butt guy is capable of being an EXCELLENT baseball/softball player (Kirby Puckett....Rick Reuschel...David Wells...I could go on). The point is softball takes some athletic skill. At the least you have to have enough hand-eye coordination to hit a softball - not easy at any time. KICKBALL only requires you to do kick a (comparatively) huge ball with your foot - you'd have to be a f-kng moron not to be able to do that! Sorry, I'm not buying. Unless you are a kid, you look like a complete fool playing kickball!
Posted by: East New York at October 26, 2009 5:01 PM
" She can't pass someone on the sidewalk without doing a U-turn and trying to go meet them, and then all she does is wag her tail and try and jump up on the person and lick their face with her black tongue. " - sure sign of a gay dog
Posted by: Petebklyn at October 26, 2009 5:02 PM
Public Service Announcement:
Do NOT, no matter how good they taste at the time, consume half a tin (about 10) of stuffed grape leaves in one sitting.
Thank you.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 5:03 PM
Isn't it cruel to keep chows where it's hot? Like NYC in the summer? I hear they are cold weather dogs. Maybe that's why they walk around looking pissed all the time.
Posted by: denton at October 26, 2009 5:03 PM
"I came around the corner one morning and ran into him being walked and he jumped on me with paws over my shoulder and began licking."
Good thing it was a 'he' else dibs would have been really upset!
Posted by: denton at October 26, 2009 5:04 PM
Ha! THL, I take it a craving kicked in? :-)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 5:05 PM
Are you English, THL???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 5:05 PM
quote:
Unless you are a kid, you look like a complete fool playing kickball!
the same goes for riding a bike, rollerblading, jogging, baseball, football, tennis, swimming, aerobics, pilates, yoga, i can go on and on
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 5:06 PM
It's going to be a tough 8 months, THL!
Posted by: East New York at October 26, 2009 5:06 PM
Half Armenian half English born here.
Big time Snappy.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 5:06 PM
Dibs
do you know who Hachiko is?
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 5:07 PM
It was the use of the word "tin" instead of can that made me ask.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 5:08 PM
Pete, I finally figured out the show I had confused with "Outrage", the one with the hot guy on the posters all over the subway. It's "White Collar", which premiered on USA on Friday.
*CGardens Hipster*
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 5:08 PM
5 down 5 to go!
9 months is a myth it's actually 10 months (40 weeks). Dirty %*@#&^%* liars.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 5:08 PM
What about basketball? Thats just netball really. A schoolgirl's game.
throwing-petrol-on-the-fire
Posted by: dittoburg at October 26, 2009 5:09 PM
"As a knowledgeable sports fan, you know full well that even the fattest, most bubble-butt guy is capable of being an EXCELLENT baseball/softball player (Kirby Puckett....Rick Reuschel...David Wells...I could go on). The point is softball takes some athletic skill."
Very true ENY - but have you ever partaken/watched one of these games? Its an elaborate scheme to leave work early one day a week - fuck around for a few hours, and drink at Brother Jimmy's (east or west side) on the company dime.
I'd rather see people take a non-serious sport seriously then a bunch of douchebags fuck around playing a real sport!!
I'd like to see corporate MMA leagues started though. there's a few old bosses i'd like to hit with a sagat-style flying knee.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 26, 2009 5:10 PM
Ahhh gotcha, I do get that from my mom.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 5:10 PM
THL- I'm afraid to ask what your grape leaves comment means :-) Should we be heading over to your house with a clean up crew or a bottle of antacid?
Posted by: bxgrl at October 26, 2009 5:11 PM
"What about basketball? Thats just netball really. A schoolgirl's game."
I happen to agree w/you. Basketball is a lame sport that was invented solely because some Canadian guy got bored.
Posted by: East New York at October 26, 2009 5:12 PM
Dibs:
Do you know who Hachiko is?
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 5:12 PM
Oy...the benadryl I took is finally kicking in. Nite everyone :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 26, 2009 5:12 PM
Yes, gemini...I posted on here about Hachiko a year or so ago....The Wikipedia story about him is very thorough. A really amazing and heart warming story.
Did you know that he is in some museum now in Tokyo, stuffed!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 5:12 PM
Dave, your experience with your Akita (and the one you ran into on the street) sounds similar to mine with the Chow. She doesn't like other dogs much; she mostly ignores them - small dogs yapping and jumping at her leave her puzzled, and if large dogs get in her face or sniff too closely, the worst she'll do is growl.
Denton, I have a great groomer, who shaves her undercoat in warm weather but leaves her top layer of fur, so she's not too hot but still looks like a Chow.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 5:12 PM
Maybe we need a brownstoner sports team- I dread to think. I can just imagine the team logo and names.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 26, 2009 5:13 PM
Hachiko
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hachik%C5%8D
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 5:13 PM
LOL. No cleanup crew necessary. I just have way too much olive oil sitting in my gut right now and it (my gut) is definitely cursing at me.
"Stupid mf'er! What were you thinking pig guts? Like I can digest all this smack for you on command?"
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 5:14 PM
women are pregnant for 10 months? is that true? that's very elephant like. i think elephants are usually pregnant for like 2 years!
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 5:14 PM
Dibs - yes he's a national treasure and simply gorgeous
do you know exactly what type of akita he is - are there different colors/coat ranges?
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 5:14 PM
And I've been to Shibuya and seen his monument!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 5:14 PM
The story of Hachiko made me cry when I first saw it. I literally sobbed.
Animals are incredible.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 5:16 PM
Many different coats. Mine was black/grey and white. Hachiko was white. Most in the US are brown and brown white.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 5:17 PM
bxgirl, the names and logo won't matter, as long as they are hand-embroidered on organic cotton shirts, in Brooklyn, by legal residents
Posted by: denton at October 26, 2009 5:17 PM
"Maybe we need a brownstoner sports team"
bxgrl, please see my 10:41 post. We're assembling a Brownstoner kickball team. ENY volunteered to be team captain, and our mascot will be a Chow.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 5:17 PM
Damn it ENY - I thought I'd get you all angered up on that one
Posted by: dittoburg at October 26, 2009 5:17 PM
It's 40 weeks Rob. So it really works out to 10 months. Think of it this way you have to get to the END of the ninth month.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 5:17 PM
I saw they were supposed to make a movie about him here, this year but I haven't heard anything about it.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 5:18 PM
I'm sure I can get the uniforms done cheaper by illegals, Lou Dobbs, er , I mean denton.
I'll personally supervise all the work.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 5:19 PM
There were only 30 akitas in 1924? Wow.
Posted by: Heather at October 26, 2009 5:19 PM
Hachiko - what a great story
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 5:20 PM
Since, THL brought up the subject of stupid things done wrt food, I'll admit that on Saturday (before i started drinking) I sliced the tip of my finger off with the mandoline. It bled for a good hour and a half!!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 5:22 PM
Dibs - I saw a piece on TV about Hachiko and the dog they were using was red - sorta like a Shiba-inu color
ahhh Shibuya!
Posted by: gemini10 at October 26, 2009 5:22 PM
"Very true ENY - but have you ever partaken/watched one of these games? Its an elaborate scheme to leave work early one day a week - fuck around for a few hours, and drink at Brother Jimmy's (east or west side) on the company dime."
I'm sure you're right DH. That definitely fits the investment guy paradigm. However the last company softball team I was on was based in Jersey (I was working in Secaucus) and those guys weren't fooling around. Like me, they all took their softball pretty seriously and we had some real battles. One guy almost got thrown out of a game! But you're right - for a lot of guys softball is merely an excuse to get tanked. And corporate MMA is a TERRIFIC idea!
Posted by: East New York at October 26, 2009 5:23 PM
Owww, Dave! That's why I don't trust myself with a mandoline. I barely trust myself with knives and Cuisinart blades. You don't need stitches?
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 5:25 PM
Shibuya, yes. For any of you who have never been to Tokyo, think of the lower east side all consisting of 10 story high rises with bars on EVERY floor and brighter than Ginza.!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 5:25 PM
be fun discussing union tshirt labor vs non-union.
Posted by: denton at October 26, 2009 5:25 PM
DAVE! What were you slicing (other than yourself)?
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 5:26 PM
Hahah ENY - something tells me you're super competitive no matter what you engage in!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 26, 2009 5:27 PM
I thought about it but it was a fairly small amount of the finger and the nail...not more than about 2mm or an 1/8 of an inch.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 5:27 PM
CGar- get the kind with the guide that holds the food. This way no fingers lost.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 5:27 PM
Sorry ditto. You should have figured out a way to get Scooby Doo into that. You'd have had me!
"ENY volunteered to be team captain, and our mascot will be a Chow."
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
Posted by: East New York at October 26, 2009 5:27 PM
Potatoes for a potato leek gratin. I was going to use the guard but had just started with a really big potato and my finger must have slipped down.. Live & Learn.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 5:29 PM
Honestly, I'm with ENY- I do not enjoy Scooby Doo. Never have.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 5:29 PM
Another dog not getting the memo:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greyfriars_Bobby
Posted by: dittoburg at October 26, 2009 5:30 PM
I do hate using the guard. You waste so much. I can get closer if I use my hands.
Russian Roulette Veggie Style!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 5:30 PM
The chow can be the team mascot but the logo has to be a cat. If we make the cat the mascot we run the risk of the logo eating the mascot. Can the uniforms be tight in the bubble butt? Team colors? Black, white and red (works on so many level) ;)
And C Gar- you get to dress up in the chow suit to do the cheerleading section.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 26, 2009 5:30 PM
I like Dino. I never watched Scooby Do and the guy looks like a hipster now that I think of it.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 5:31 PM
"Hahah ENY - something tells me you're super competitive no matter what you engage in!"
Pretty much. I just can't help it. My wife, who is from Jamaica (and also lived in South Florida, two undeniably laid-back places) constantly complains about it.
Posted by: East New York at October 26, 2009 5:32 PM
500?
Posted by: more4less at October 26, 2009 5:33 PM
500
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 5:34 PM
Bxgrl you never want to use a cat as a logo unless it's a tiger or a panther.
Can you imagine the ridicule? The PLUSA PUSSIES?
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 5:35 PM
500
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 5:35 PM
The pregnant lady stuffed with grape leaves got it.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 5:36 PM
How can you cut yourself with a mandolin? What, did your finger get trapped in the strings? Confusing.
Posted by: East New York at October 26, 2009 5:40 PM
ENY it's a food slicer:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001AMGQ2I
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 5:43 PM
ENY can't be THAT dumb, THL.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 5:45 PM
Most gay kitchens have them.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 5:47 PM
True. Apparently, I CAN be that gullible though.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 26, 2009 5:47 PM
You have an excuse. Your hormones are off.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 5:48 PM
OK...gotta go...off to a private reception at the Metropolitan Museum...I'll tell you all about it tomorrow...
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 26, 2009 5:50 PM
I liked Scooby Doo. I never liked Scrappy. And, yes, Shaggy was a hipster. Also, Velma was a lesbian, and Daphne and Fred were always f**king on a mattress in the back of the Mystery Machine. Did anyone know they all had last names?
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 26, 2009 5:50 PM
I certainly COULD be that dumb, but in this case I was joking.
Posted by: East New York at October 26, 2009 5:56 PM
"Daphne and Fred were always f**king on a mattress in the back of the Mystery Machine."
I don't think so. Fred was the guy w/the ascot, right? I think he played for Dave & Rob's team.
Posted by: East New York at October 26, 2009 5:57 PM
Oy vey! Lights on again, CD player going, faucets running! What's become of this place?!
**click**
**click**
**shut of water at shut-off valve, that'll teach 'em**
[Where's my flashlight?, Oh right, in my bag...] ::::::::::::::exit stage right>>::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 26, 2009 7:24 PM
*turns on lights*
*turns on all the faucets*
*sticks Scooby Doo season 5 into the VCR player* maybe we can update to a DVD player these days!?!?
*ROB*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 26, 2009 8:56 PM
All right. That's it! I'm taking the vcr home with me so you can't leave it running...and I'm taking the Scooby vid with me too! Harumph. No dvd player for you, you Wasteful Willy!
**shutting off main water valve**
**shutting off lights at the breaker**
**MEOOOOOOWWWWW, RAAAAAAWWWWWRRRRRW**
The guard kitty has once again been released. His claws were just sharpened this evening. And he was promised tuna and didn't get any...in short, he's pissed off and hungry. Re-enter at your own risk :-)
(by the by, where the hell did the COTD thread from today disappear to? wtf?)
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