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Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 9:39 AM
dick!! ;)
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 9:40 AM
We pay good money to get this posted at 9:15. And now this false advertising to those lazy people who don't wake up until 10:00 that the OT was posted at 9:15 when it didn't really post until 9:38.
Did the shop go "union??"
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 9:41 AM
Today's FGVOTD features one of my favourite songs and will hopefully help keep things fun and calm.
It's the legendary Ray Charles doing the definitive version of a classic. According to Wiki:
"Georgia on My Mind" is a song written in 1930 by Hoagy Carmichael (music) and Stuart Gorrell (lyrics). It is the official state song of the U.S. state of Georgia. Gorrell wrote the lyrics for Hoagy's sister, Georgia Carmichael. However, the lyrics of the song are ambiguous enough to refer either to the state or to a woman named "Georgia". Carmichael's 1965 autobiography notes that a friend suggested: "Why don't you write a song called 'Georgia?' Nobody lost much writing about the South." Thus, the song is universally believed to have been written about the state."
A quote from Ray, "I'm not into the money thing. You can only sleep in one bed at a time. You can only eat one meal at a time, or be in one car at a time. So I don't have to have millions of dollars to be happy. All I need are clothes on my back, a decent meal, and a little loving when I feel like it. That's the bottom line."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thls_tMuFkc&feature=fvw
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 9:41 AM
scared us for a minute
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 9:42 AM
jscheff, how did you rig the time?
The government has a job opening for you.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 9:43 AM
"scared us for a minute"
No kidding. I was already forced to start thinking of other ways to waste away my entire day while at work.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 9:44 AM
Whew!
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 9:45 AM
"jscheff, how did you rig the time?"
Yeah, aren't there rules against backdating? And by backdating, I'm not referring to DIBS' social life.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 9:45 AM
- scared us for a minute
More like: Scared us for 23 minutes.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 9:46 AM
I know someone named Georgia.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 9:46 AM
f'ing ny times! im reading the home section this morning and there is an article about properly cleaning your clothes and some expert who wrote a 400 page book on the matter. i know youre supposed to seperate colors and whites, but this guy says you need 5 different piles. (i never seperate colors and whites) and it says that your clothes wind up turning all drab, which is true, my entire wardrobe is kinda drab and washed out, even the bright neon colored things. grr. i always thought color bleeding was an old wives tale. then he says that those concentrated small bottles of detergent are meant for NEWER front loading washing machines that use less water, not top loading older models. grrrr. i always buy the concentrated one :( and i always overload, another no no apparently, apparently my clothes arent rubbing up on each other (called agitation) so essentially not getting clean. which i guess i sorta knew cuz sometimes ill take my clothes out of the washing machine and parts of certain things are still dry. one thing i was happy this guy said is that the detergents with chemicals they sell in the supermarket are actually MUCH better than the natural organic type detergents, so at least im doing something right!! i do like this part "Environmentalists may balk at using hot water and additional rinse cycles, but ms. mendelson is a fan" hahaha. "the cleaning power of hot water simply cannot be underestimated." and "America's dirty little secret is that Americans frequently wash clean clothes". i totally agree with this, if you wear underwear there is no reason you need to wash your pants. "unless youre washing sports or gardening or dirty underwear lol, a lot of what wash isnt very dirty"
i hope you enjoy your lesson on laundry. do i get an A for my book report Arkady!?
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 8, 2009 9:46 AM
I think Brownstoner may be part of a LBO - selling off parts of the site and will be so in debt that files for bankruptcy but the lawyers and bankers get bonuses.
Posted by: Petebklyn at October 8, 2009 9:47 AM
"I know someone named Georgia."
But many more individuals named George, I suspect.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 9:47 AM
9:38 and it reads "9:15"
Pathetic manipulation of the system.
"Those who seek absolute power, even though they seek it to do what they regard as good, are simply demanding the right to enforce their own version of heaven on earth. And let me remind you, they are the very ones who always create the most hellish tyrannies. Absolute power does corrupt, and those who seek it must be suspect and must be opposed."
Barry Goldwater
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 9:47 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Or should I say "Jorge"?
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 9:47 AM
Yes, indeed, Rob! And an A for your environmental sensitivities - I thought the part about washing twice & rinsing 3 times was really OTT!
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 9:49 AM
DIBS, and, given all the time you spend in Philly, you've probably had your share of Hoagies too.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 9:49 AM
- i hope you enjoy your lesson on laundry. do i get an A for my book report Arkady!?
And 'D' for lucidity.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 9:50 AM
was Barry refering to King Mike Bloomberg?
Posted by: Petebklyn at October 8, 2009 9:51 AM
Today's Merriam-Webster Word of the Day is "polemic".
Meaning
1 *a : an aggressive attack on or refutation of the opinions or principles of another b : the art or practice of disputation
2 : disputant
Made me wonder what ever happened to Polemicist.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 9:51 AM
wow- amazing video, biff. The sound was so good even I could hear the words clearly- which never happens with 99% of the videos. And then I watched the Louis Armstrong one, What a wonderful world. Nice to start the day off in tears :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 9:52 AM
No, jokester, not today. Clear & concise presentation. Only punctuation & capitalization (of the orthographic sort) gets low marks.
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 9:53 AM
The Yankees win!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 9:53 AM
So did the Phillies.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 9:53 AM
Whoops (theme of the day) - get low marks.
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 9:54 AM
Sorry, folks. As always, it was set up for 9:15-ish but was left in draft form so it didn't automatically publish. More detail than you probably need but bottom line it was a simple clerical oversight, not a conspiracy to derail the OT.
Posted by: brownstoner at October 8, 2009 9:55 AM
I have one of those front loading 'environmentally sensitive' machines. I think I'm still putting too much detergent in. I haven't figured out the right formula yet.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 9:55 AM
Love that song, Biff! Billie Holiday does a lovely version, as well.
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 9:55 AM
"And then I watched the Louis Armstrong one, What a wonderful world"
bxgrl, I noticed that Louis' song was linked there and watched it again. I featured Satchmo's "What a Wonderful World" as the FGVOTD on May 12 of this year (thank you to the PLUSA Records Department for that).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnRqYMTpXHc
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 9:56 AM
Made me wonder what ever happened to Polemicist.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 9:51
I think MM beat him back into his cave.
Now Barry Goldwater was a man of integrity and great intelligence. I always admired him, even if I didn't agree with him. He is sorely missed in American politics- he was a real statesman.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 9:56 AM
It was also Biff's opening song at Karaoke.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 9:57 AM
Jokester - A niece of mine who worked for P&G said to always err on the low side - before introduction of the concentrate, she said to use only half the recommended amount. Today's article suggested similar.
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 9:58 AM
"Made me wonder what ever happened to Polemicist."
There were a few scary debates between Poly and MM/Bxgrl that gave me nightmares. haha
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 9:59 AM
"it was a simple clerical oversight, not a conspiracy to derail the OT."
We'll just have to see what the PIA and the PBI have to say about that.
:-)
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 9:59 AM
biff- and Louis' was always the most touching version. I wonder who posted those old videos? The quality and the sound were so good. I usually don't bother watching most of the music links because the sound for me is impossible.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 9:59 AM
Too many 40s? Tapped out?
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 10:00 AM
Old Poley actually got a few votes for an award or two, I was surprised. But he didn't win anything.
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 10:01 AM
Poley gave me squirrels on the brain. He has some strange ideas of civilization, for sure. we once dubbed him "Pestilence" but I can't recall who the rest of the 4 horsemen were :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 10:01 AM
Love, love, love the quote from Ray "...and that's the bottom line."
That song was played at our wedding, sigh. I'd always assumed it to be about a woman, even while easily allowed to mean the state too. And Georgia, despite its many flaws, is utterly lovely and lovable.
Laundry: I am a firm believer in lotsa water, the hotter the better, and not over-stuffing. I also use more detergent than I should, and more fabric softener than I should. I'm a sucker for that Downey smell.
But Rob, just from your average sweating throughout the day, skin cell sheddage, body oils and sitting all over the city, including subways and benches, even WITH a good ol' pair of underwear, pants need to be washed every few wearings. IMHO. Otherwise they start to get stinky. To others anyway, you might not smell your own smells.
Posted by: Nokilissa at October 8, 2009 10:02 AM
noki in da house!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 10:04 AM
Sorry, folks. As always, it was set up for 9:15-ish but was left in draft form so it didn't automatically publish. More detail than you probably need but bottom line it was a simple clerical oversight, not a conspiracy to derail the OT.
Posted by: brownstoner at October 8, 2009 9:55 AM
You mean you actually have to "draft" the OT post?
I have one of those front loading 'environmentally sensitive' machines. I think I'm still putting too much detergent in. I haven't figured out the right formula yet.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 9:55 AM
Use an HE formulated detergent and put in half of what the bottle recomments. I'm serious.
Posted by: slopefarm at October 8, 2009 10:05 AM
" the 4 horsemen"
OMG, I remember that thread, let's see....wasn't it...
Pestilence, War, Famine and Death. I think we had Poley and What, who did we have for the others? I was laughing so hard that day!
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 10:05 AM
Ark - I use a concentrated detergent, one with the 'he' label.
It's odd watching the cycle cause it doesn't really fill up with lots of water and get sudsy.
I grew up going to a laundromat; where you poured in a pint of detergent. Sometimes there was much suds it would ooze out the side of the machine and you pretended it wasn't yours.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 10:05 AM
"I have one of those front loading 'environmentally sensitive' machines."
That's what she said.
Isn't it a little early for this kind of talk?
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 10:08 AM
I know people who throw their clothes into the laundry if they worn it for 2 hours- Americans do overclean, and overuse chemicals to do it. I saw a news report a while back that said the rising numbers of asthmatic children may be tied to the overuse of cleaners. Kids can't build up any immunity to bacteria and such. On the other hand, have you ever spent a few hours with those Europeans who don't believe in deodorant? They used to come to the SoHo antique clothing store I worked at years ago and try on dresses. After 20 minutes everything stank and had to be rewashed or drycleaned. After awhile we either told them they couldn't try them on or they had to wash their underarm area first.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 10:09 AM
Mr Congenial and forgiving checking in! What a dork I look like with those categories.
Posted by: wasder at October 8, 2009 10:10 AM
Really neat thing in today's Times was about a group called Fixers Collective who have a Thursday clinic to which you can take something that's broken & ask if they can fix it. I'm planning to go tonight. Google the name for how it works. If you fill out a form on line they'll have ideas about it before you get there. $5. fee. (Plus parts, presumably.)
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 10:11 AM
- Use an HE formulated detergent and put in half of what the bottle recomments. I'm serious.
Oooops, while I use a HE detergent. I'm def. using too much.
But I like seeing suds!
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 10:12 AM
cobble- I know! One of the funniest threads. Do you know I saved the entire herb thread, it was so brilliant?!
bjster- I grew up with laundromats too. the projects had a washroom and we used to overdo the soap for fun. (Not so much fun for the super ;)
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 10:12 AM
- Isn't it a little early for this kind of talk?
Yes, considering I'm still in yesterday's dirty underclothes.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 10:12 AM
arkady- that sounds very cool. Do they do computers?
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 10:13 AM
hey folks,
Biff, have you tried going to the Louis Armstrong museum in Corona, Queens?
It's his old house, several Jazz/Music greats lived in that area.
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 10:14 AM
Don't worry, wasder, in the movie version of Brownstoner, you will be played by Sandra Bullock.
Ok, I'd better bear down on work.
Posted by: slopefarm at October 8, 2009 10:14 AM
what is the HE detergent? like detergent for men? actually that is a pretty good idea. men should have their own smelling detergent. i do like the smell of Gain in the green bottle. once i bought some weird brand i never heard of from the dollar store and it made my clothes REEK!
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 8, 2009 10:15 AM
"Mr Congenial and forgiving checking in! What a dork I look like with those categories."
Finally! I was wondering when you'd stop by to accept your award. You might wanna work on that acceptance speech, Mr!
Publish the link, bxgrl!? That was a great one!
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 10:18 AM
- what is the HE detergent? like detergent for men?
HE = high efficiency
I wish more men were 'HE'
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 10:18 AM
bxgrl - Dunno but I'd imagine so. I'm taking a rainbow projector that 3 places specializing in lights couldn't fix. And plan to go back for some other off-the-wall things I have & can't mend myself. I figure it's artisans & geeks so highly probable 'puters would be part of their remit.
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 10:19 AM
you know, i only just started to warm up to the poster brooklyngreen (the one who writes dissertation length posts) until i saw this final post from ot last night... how rude! lol
***
Do you people actually have jobs during the day or just sit on here writing cutesy comments?!
There are over 600 comments. That's absurd.
If you're between jobs, as they say, then I'm sorry. But please, People, find something more creative to do with all your time instead of sitting in front of the computer if you don't have to...and if you're sitting at work commenting all day, then shame on you!
I wouldn't be surprised of some you were sitting with your Macbook plugged in at some coffee shop all day long.
Hhhh...the old admonition from my mother: "Don't sit there all day moping around the house! Go out and play!"
**
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 8, 2009 10:20 AM
brownjokester, I bet you're more HM...High Maintenance.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 10:22 AM
Rob - Obviously brooklyngreene doesn't understand & should come to a gathering.
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 10:22 AM
bxgrl,
I think you're right. doctor's are linking food allergies to overdoing the clean routine with children. The human body needs to build up defenses against viruses, bacteria and fungal organisms.
In the old USSR, they used to inject children with some kind of virus/bacterial coctail with the 50-100 most common threats. that sure wouldn't fly here. imagine the lawsuits.
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 10:22 AM
rob, I saw Brooklyngreene's post and just told her to STFU.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 10:23 AM
And now you know why brooklyngreene didn't win Ms. Congeniality!
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 10:23 AM
yeah, get a job, rob.
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 10:24 AM
they say kids who had pinworms as a kid wind up being pretty immune to almost everything as an adult :)
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 8, 2009 10:25 AM
Dave, you're a HE - highly erotic
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 10:25 AM
Just let your kids eat some dirt in the yard. Maybe some cat pee mixed in with it or a rabbit turd like I ate.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 10:26 AM
Dibs - The mind boggles at the possible ramifications of your early diet! (But might explsin a lot.)
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 10:29 AM
"Don't worry, wasder, in the movie version of Brownstoner, you will be played by Sandra Bullock."
Ouch! IF she isn't the blandest movie star of all time...
"Finally! I was wondering when you'd stop by to accept your award. You might wanna work on that acceptance speech, Mr!"
First draft done. I am having my speechwriters go over a few lines and get it into the teleprompter.
Posted by: wasder at October 8, 2009 10:29 AM
Dibs - The mind boggles at the possible ramifications of your early diet! (But might explsin a lot.)
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 10:29 AM
SPELLING, PLEASE.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 10:32 AM
try this song;
Never go back to Georgia: el pito
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGkcV-Rp_k0
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 10:33 AM
Legion- question- are the numbers for asthma and autism actually rising or is it that they are being diagnosed more now?
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 10:33 AM
- Dibs - The mind boggles at the possible ramifications of your early diet! (But might explsin a lot.)
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 10:29 AM
SPELLING, PLEASE.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 10:32 AM
She got it right! 'sin'
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 10:34 AM
It's A Sin.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRHetRTOD1Q
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 10:37 AM
Bxgrl, I once bought this fabulous, yarnie/hippy sweater I found at a Euro-boutique called Smakk on the LES. Actually had to return the damn thing because when I got it home, the armpits stank to high heaven. I mean HIGH heaven.
I even tried to air it out first, because it was one of a kind. Nope. Back it went.
Brrrrrrrr...I shudder at the recall of that smell even now.
Posted by: Nokilissa at October 8, 2009 10:39 AM
Legion- I LOVE that song! It's on the Crooklyn soundtrack.
It's better to use too little than too much detergent. use too much and it doesn't rinse out so over time you're building up more and more soap reside on the fibers of your clothing. The soap is sticky and it actually gathers dirt and stains.
Also, don't use too much fabric softener on towels/dishrags. It also leaves a reside on the fibers that stop them from being as absorbent as they might be.
I also don't wash any clothing in hot water. Sheets towels and knickers only. No one in my home works in construction or anything that requires the boiling water sterilization treatment.
I'm also old school, I like to line dry my clothes. Keeps them looking better longer. The dryer destroys clothes.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 10:41 AM
From sex to stinky armpit odors. How I love the OT :-) Mornin' Folks!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 10:42 AM
And you wonder where the phrase "EUROTRASH" comes from!!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 10:42 AM
Wasder,
I wasn't trying to insult you. Just thinking she already starred as Ms. Congeniality. I figured she owned the role.
Anyway, might I suggest today's OT parlor game -- casting the movie version of brownstoner?
Posted by: slopefarm at October 8, 2009 10:43 AM
I'm not sure how my clothes get done. I only do my goodie holders myself. And socks. Everything else gets sent out in the pick up wash and dry service. Spending all day in the laundromat is akin to torture.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 10:44 AM
"they say kids who had pinworms as a kid wind up being pretty immune to almost everything as an adult"
My son would love that, if true.
Seriously, all that excessive cleaning, washing and hygiene must lead to too many allergies and low immunity. Coming from a more relaxed country, I'm always amazed at how much washing/cleaning up the average person does here (see any post on how many loads of laundry done per week if you have kids.) My laundry load shrank to a 1/4 after my split, and I do change my sheets on a normal frequency.
Posted by: cmu at October 8, 2009 10:44 AM
Movie version of the OT? I insist that Queen Latifah play Snappy :) Dead on, no?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 10:44 AM
Minus the monster weave of course
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 10:45 AM
Best stain remover of all time:
http://www.felsnaptha.com/
Every laundry room should stock this.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 10:46 AM
Legion, I never even heard of the Louis Armstrong Museum. Thanks for the tip.
Ok, so I just took time out of my very busy sched to get a hair cut. I go to a true blue old school barber shop(as anyone who has seen me in person would surmise) as opposed to a fancy schmancy salon. A few observations:
1) I was pathetic enough to be reading Brownstoner during the cut and LOL'ed at DIBS' post at 10:26. Barber thought I was nuts.
2) Barber's fingers smelled of cigarette smoke. Couldn't he at least wash his hands before he cuts my hair? I guess that's what one expects at a barber shop.
3) The bastard told me I have a lot of grey hair (even more than shows) and it's somehow not showing as it's "hidden". I have no freaking clue what that meant. I guess that's also what one expects at a barber shop.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 10:47 AM
snappy- absolutely!Although i would have thought you'd want Serena playing you in her first acting role :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 10:47 AM
"I wasn't trying to insult you. Just thinking she already starred as Ms. Congeniality. I figured she owned the role."
I know you weren't. Just thinking about what milquetoast she is. I always thought John Cusack would play me.
Posted by: wasder at October 8, 2009 10:48 AM
bxgrl,
from what I am hearing it seems to be a combination of increasing incidence and increasing diagnoses.
regarding asthma, there is definitely an increased incidence in certain populations which they are relating to environmental factors like proximity to major highways in the city and home exposure to allergens and fomites.
Autism is harder to quantify because it falls along a spectrum of normal human behavior and development and it's cause is not directly known. There is definitely a factor of increased diagnosis and awareness, something like 1 in 150 children today. 30 years ago, these children would have simply been put in the "special help" class and nothing further. Today there is much more awareness and intervention involved which has been proven successful, everything from aggressive socialization therapy to dietary control as some believe it stems from an intestinal condition.
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 10:49 AM
Judy Davis has gotta play Arkady. And Phylicia Rashad could play a mighty Montrose. I have to work on Biff and Dibs. I'm thinkin' perhaps a bit of Vince Vaugn crossed with Kevin Kline for Biff... Dibs is more difficult.
Posted by: Nokilissa at October 8, 2009 10:50 AM
biff,
no problem, check this site out.
www.louisarmstronghouse.org
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 10:51 AM
I wish there was a girls equivalent of barber shop. A good quick cut for a reasonable price.
Seriously, all I require is that you can cut a straight line. Why does that have to cost me $60+ plus 3 tips for the washer, 'stylist' and blow dry gal? I'm being bamboozled.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 10:51 AM
LOL Bxgirl. Serena has done a few acting roles, and unfortunately wasn't so good. She did an episode of Law and Order SVU a few years ago. I enjoyed looking at her, but the acting --- not so much!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 10:52 AM
Dibs is more difficult.
Posted by: Nokilissa at October 8, 2009 10:50 AM
That's what they all say.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 10:52 AM
I've met Queen Latifah. She's the nicest celebrity.
Is that really the kind of person that should portray Snappy? :-)
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 10:52 AM
Phylicia Rashad would be perfect as MM! Good call Noki.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 10:53 AM
LOL jokester! What, I'm not nice? I won Ms. Congeniality!!!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 10:54 AM
Why not BJ? Rumor has it Queen likes the kitty as well.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 10:54 AM
- Dibs is more difficult.
I thought DIBS was easy.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 10:55 AM
I think that guy from Scrubs who was also in Garden State (can't recall the name) should play Dirty Hipster.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 10:55 AM
And Jack Black is sooooo Rob!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 10:56 AM
"I'm thinkin' perhaps a bit of Vince Vaugn crossed with Kevin Kline for Biff."
I'm not sure what's worse...being compared to Kevin Kline or that goofball from the Food Network show.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 10:56 AM
Dirty Hipster could be nicely played by Seth Rogan on a good day, perhaps Paul Rudd could step up. Dibs...Dibs...
Posted by: Nokilissa at October 8, 2009 10:56 AM
Why not BJ? Rumor has it Queen likes the kitty as well.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 10:54 AM
is it rumor? thought she got married to a lady
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 10:57 AM
I think Richard Simmons as 11217. :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 10:57 AM
I kinda see Courtney Cox as THL.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 10:58 AM
Good CALL, Snappy! I was going to say Jack Black crossed with Ryan Seacrest for Rob, but Black really could do the trick, fine actor that he is.
Biff, I adore Keven Kline! What is wrong with you?
Posted by: Nokilissa at October 8, 2009 10:59 AM
- I'm not sure what's worse...being compared to Kevin Kline or that goofball from the Food Network show.
Well, you don't think Cary Grant or Clark Cable should come back from the dead to play you, do ya?
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 10:59 AM
Who is Judy Davis? I wanted Judi Dench.
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 11:00 AM
"I kinda see Courtney Cox as THL. "
I love that. Now if only I could get the body looking more like hers...
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 11:00 AM
Latifah is a big ole mo...everyone knows it. Ms. Dana used to frequent the lesbo clubs quite often.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:01 AM
quote:
I'm also old school, I like to line dry my clothes. Keeps them looking better longer. The dryer destroys clothes.
agreeance on hanging clothes. the only clothes i put in the dryer are my dainties. everything else i let air dry over the stair railing. plus driers shrink clothes,i HATE that!
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 8, 2009 11:01 AM
You mean Alton Brown????
I think Joan Crawford would be more appropriate for Arkady.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 11:01 AM
Biff, rumor has always been that Kevin Kline is packing some serious trouser heat. Take it as a compliment.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 11:01 AM
I wish Katherine Hepburn could play me, but...she ain't coming back! And especially not for that! LOL!
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 11:02 AM
"Biff...what is wrong with you?"
You got a few hours?
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 11:02 AM
Natalie Portman is definitely Jessibaby.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:03 AM
GASP!
Arkady!
Who is Judy Davis? Get thee to a google with a quickness!
Posted by: Nokilissa at October 8, 2009 11:03 AM
If we HAD AVATARS HERE, everyone could post the actor who will be playing them
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 11:03 AM
"Biff, rumor has always been that Kevin Kline is packing some serious trouser heat. Take it as a compliment."
Then Kevin Kline it is!!
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 11:04 AM
Yes, we want avatars, Mr. B!!
So long as the don't eff up my ability to post from The Death Star, of course.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 11:04 AM
Cobble I see you as Ashley Judd.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:04 AM
snappy,
Zach Branf, I think. Garden State was really good.
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 11:05 AM
And then there's Giada DiLaurentis.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 11:05 AM
I kinda like Cloris Leachman for Arkady.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:06 AM
- "Biff, rumor has always been that Kevin Kline is packing some serious trouser heat. Take it as a compliment."
Then Kevin Kline it is!!
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 11:04 AM
Helloooooooooo Biff!
(er, I mean Kevin Kline)
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 11:06 AM
Yes, that's his name Legion! I loved that movie. And it's one of the best soundtracks EVER.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:06 AM
WOW!! Snappy, awesome, I'll run with that! Thanks!!
[And she has the added benefit of being alive! LOL!]
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 11:06 AM
Eminem as infinitejester
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 11:07 AM
Snappy, did you say Ashley Judd for Cobble?
tell cobble; Legion likey.
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 11:07 AM
ACK! You're not allowed to like me, legion!! Back, back, I say!! LOL!
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 11:08 AM
OMG! Eminem is definitely Jester! Nice one Biffy
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:09 AM
ROFL Cobble! Legion's gotta crush on you now!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:10 AM
O.K. Looked at Judy Davis - Judy Davis could easily qualify as one dangerous female. The petite... Could live w/ that but prefer Judi Dench & as for Cloris Leachman?!?! Say whuh?
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 11:10 AM
But can anyone verify if Eminem can do the worm? If not, he's out as Jester :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:10 AM
Yul Brynner or Ed Harris as Lechacal.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 11:11 AM
arkady, judi dench once described herself as a post menopausal drawf, take judi davis!
Posted by: DeLepp at October 8, 2009 11:11 AM
I finally got Dibs. John Malkovich!
Posted by: Nokilissa at October 8, 2009 11:11 AM
Of course, Ed Harris will play lechacal.
What about benson???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 11:11 AM
He just can't! Besides, I'm a commie-pinko-lib, it would never work out! ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 11:11 AM
NO! Wait....for Rob it's gotta be the guy who played Jack on Will & Grace! **JUST ROB...JAZZ HANDS!**
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:12 AM
Arkady, better Dame Judy Dench than Dame Edna!
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 11:12 AM
Arkady, I could go with you on Dame Dench, except that she's just too old for you. Judy Davis is more your contemporary, and a MIGHTY actor if I might add. Just phenomenal.
Posted by: Nokilissa at October 8, 2009 11:13 AM
haha - this si funny
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 11:14 AM
Can Arkady PLEASE (pretty please, with sugar on top) change her name to something else?
1) Confuses the hell out of Russian speaking peeps as it's a men's name
2) Confuses the hell out of peeps who read any Russian lit as it's a men's name
3. OMG, my god-given name is Arkady! So STOP (please) using it.
4. Yeah, I totally understand, if you are to be played by Chloris, you can call yourself whatever you want.
Posted by: bupe at October 8, 2009 11:14 AM
I think Will kinda looks like Biff. no homo
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 11:14 AM
Opposites attract dear Cobble! LOL
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:14 AM
I'm just afraid they're thinking of having Shelley Winters play me. -Jessica Tate, SOAP
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 11:14 AM
Amzi could be played by Common
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 11:15 AM
biff, you're right I don't see Arkady tossing Gladiolas to the audience, maybe dictionaries though.
Posted by: DeLepp at October 8, 2009 11:15 AM
So who's gonna play DH?
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 11:15 AM
quote:
And Jack Black is sooooo Rob!
um EW!
why cant miley cyrus be me? :(
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 8, 2009 11:16 AM
I think Elton John would be a good Dave.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:16 AM
snappy,
oh yeah.
now we just add an Eva Mendes stand in, and count me in at the next brownstoner fete.lol.
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 11:17 AM
Thanks for the Felicia nod to play me. She is gorgeous, and a fine actor, although she does have a few years on me. Still, I appreciate it. You could have chosen Moms Mabley.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at October 8, 2009 11:17 AM
We still need to cast:
CG_Ups
Bxgrl
CGar
six
Amzi
Mr. B
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 11:17 AM
Common would be perfect as Amzi. Very very true.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:17 AM
We already got DH. Perhaps Paul Rudd or Seth Rogan?
Posted by: Nokilissa at October 8, 2009 11:18 AM
"Amzi could be played by Common"
Excellent choice!
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 11:18 AM
bupe - Think of me as rkd.
Dench is 9 years older, Davis 12 years younger.
Alan Bennett for dibs.
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 11:18 AM
Who do we get to play the two Chinamen???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 11:18 AM
Rob, better Jack Black than RuPaul!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:18 AM
CarGar - robin williams
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 11:19 AM
Bxgrl could be played by Debra Winger.
I still like John Malkovich for dibs. Methinks it is perfect! Back up could be Paul Schaffer ;)
Posted by: Nokilissa at October 8, 2009 11:19 AM
This post failed earlier.
Legion,
Are you a jazz fan? We might actually agree on something (although we'd probably start arguing moderns vs. moldy figs -- and if you get the reference, then we really do have something in common).
As for Dibs, I was sort of thinking late 80s Richard Dreyfuss (circa Tin Men). Lean, gray, kind of aggressive and edgy. Not the pudgy bearded guy in Jaws and Goodbye Girl. No? Paul Giamatti? No? Malkovich seems too reclusive, holding too much back.
Posted by: slopefarm at October 8, 2009 11:19 AM
Wait...I think Common should be the What and Ludacris should be Amzi.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:19 AM
"Who do we get to play the two Chinamen???"
What the hell choices do we have? It's gotta be Jet Li and Jackie Chan.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 11:19 AM
dibs - cheech & chong
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 11:20 AM
David Suchet as benson.
Posted by: infinitejester at October 8, 2009 11:20 AM
Then go for Judy Davis for sure, Arkady!
Ricky Gervais for CGar?
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 11:20 AM
DH! YES! That's perfect for Cargar
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:20 AM
No, no, no, Arkady.
Dench was born in 1934 I think. Davis in 55.
Posted by: Nokilissa at October 8, 2009 11:21 AM
dibs - cheech & chong
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 11:20 AM
ROFL!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:21 AM
"I think Common should be the What and Ludacris should be Amzi."
No, Snaps, the other way around!
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 11:21 AM
Who is david suchet?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:21 AM
hey biff,
Kevin Kline is married to Phoebe Cates.
I know you remember that pool scene from Fast Times at Ridgemont High!
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 11:21 AM
Andy Garcia for Benson
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:22 AM
Oh, sorry Arkady. Scratch that. It was a misread.
Posted by: Nokilissa at October 8, 2009 11:22 AM
Noki - Exactly & I'm 1943.
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 11:22 AM
I'm still wondering how one could look like Vince Vaughan, Kevin Kline, Will and the Food Network dude all at the same time. How about Will's face, the Food Network dude's cooking skills, Vince's current compensation and Kevin's serious trouser heat?
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 11:22 AM
Yul Brynner is dead so Ed Harris would be a better choice.
I want Morris the Cat to play me. Or Bette Midler in the mermaid suit.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 11:23 AM
m4l = guy from harold and kumar
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 11:23 AM
Legion...I remember that scene...I was put in a trance by boobies for the first time. Sigh. :-)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:23 AM
Suchet is perfect!
How about Sasha B. Cohen for Biffers?
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 11:23 AM
Bette Midler would be perfect for you Bxgirl!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:24 AM
Haha! Kal Penn! yup!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:24 AM
nokilissa,
that's funny, I pictured bxgrl as a fiesty Debra Winger or who's the actress in Broadcast News? She has a distinct voice with a southern twang.
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 11:24 AM
I've got a picture of an actor in my mind who is the perfect Mr. B but I just can't come up with his name.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 11:25 AM
Davisd Suchet - played Poirot on Mystery! on PBS, various other roles too
Leonard Cohen for Biff
Posted by: infinitejester at October 8, 2009 11:25 AM
So who will play Mr. B?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:25 AM
Dennis Quaid for Mr. B
Posted by: infinitejester at October 8, 2009 11:25 AM
"How about Sasha B. Cohen for Biffers?"
Going from bad to worse...
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 11:26 AM
CarGar - John Galecki from Big Bang Theory
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 11:26 AM
The What - Denzel Washington (come on, we need denzel)
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 11:26 AM
m4l = guy from harold and kumar
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 11:23 AM
SO TYPICALLY AMERICAN...cast an Asian of one country as another Asian. How 'bout we just use Mickey Rooney???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 11:26 AM
"Leonard Cohen for Biff"
And from worse to much worse...
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 11:27 AM
Holly Hunter!
Posted by: Nokilissa at October 8, 2009 11:27 AM
Mr. B - Gary Sinese
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 11:27 AM
what about DeLepp??
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 11:28 AM
No, The What is definitely Samuel L. Jackson.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 11:28 AM
Dave @ 11:26- ROFL!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 11:28 AM
"DH! YES! That's perfect for Cargar"
Uhhh, DH and Snappy, NOOOOOO to Robin Williams!!
In my younger days I used to get Michael J. Fox or Matthew Broderick.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 11:28 AM
Leonard Cohen is famous for being devastatingly handsome! This is the second time I've compared you to him, buster!
Posted by: infinitejester at October 8, 2009 11:28 AM
Noki- thanks! I'll take her (Does this mean I have to do bull riding in some bar?)
Peter Lorre for benson.
LL Cool J for Legion ;)
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 11:28 AM
Jeez Biff complain much? Tell us who do you want to see play you?
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 11:28 AM
Christopher Walken as DeLepp
Posted by: infinitejester at October 8, 2009 11:29 AM
*psst, a free drink next Thursday night to whoever suggests JFK Jr. to play Biff. Better a dead JFK Jr. playing me than a living Leonard Cohen or Sasha Baron Cohen or Ice Cream Cohen for that matter.*
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 11:29 AM
Chrissy from "Three's Company" as bitter retort. Oooppps, am I gonna get in trouble now????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 11:29 AM
"SO TYPICALLY AMERICAN...cast an Asian of one country as another Asian. How 'bout we just use Mickey Rooney???"
Or Bugs Bunny?
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 11:30 AM
We need more Gary Busey
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 11:30 AM
"In my younger days I used to get Michael J. Fox or Matthew Broderick."
In my younger days I used to get Wednesday from the Addams Family but times change CGar!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 11:30 AM
m4l = guy from harold and kumar
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 11:23 AM
I'll take the dude from Fast & Furious
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 11:30 AM
Janeane Garofalo as bxgrl
Posted by: infinitejester at October 8, 2009 11:31 AM
I always thought Mister B was a little Mark Ruffalo.
Posted by: Nokilissa at October 8, 2009 11:31 AM
after a couple of cocktails-edward everett horton
morning after cocktails-marion lorne aunt clara from bewitched, fireplace dust and all.
Posted by: DeLepp at October 8, 2009 11:31 AM
Yes! Noki, touchdown.
Posted by: infinitejester at October 8, 2009 11:32 AM
Lechacal = bruce willis
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 11:32 AM
OK, Biff, how about Mark Harelik from WINGS:
http://www.lagunaplayhouse.com/images/mm/Mark_Harelikcopy_000.JPG
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 11:32 AM
Noooooo! Denzel is ENY.
My e-hubby is going to be played by a hunk, people. Marlon Brando (except not dead).
Thanks Legion! (And to all of you who refrained from mentioning Margaret Hamilton as my doppelganger, my gratitude).
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 11:33 AM
dibs = john waters, DEFINITELY. they both like 'em young and exotic.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 8, 2009 11:33 AM
snappy,
lol, I think that scene got an award for like most memorable or most fantasized by men according to Esquire or Maxim or some other.
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 11:33 AM
"In my younger days I used to get Michael J. Fox or Matthew Broderick."
And in my youth I was likened to Melina Mercouri - o mores, o tempus!
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 11:33 AM
Actually Jester, Janine Garafaolo with that kinda sharp tongue may be better for THL. But we've got Courtney Cox as THL already....lemme think...
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:33 AM
Sarah Palin making her film debut as CHiller
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 11:33 AM
Anybody from the cast of The Sopranos as benson.
[ducking out of the way, quickly]
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 11:33 AM
IJ - Perfect for bxgrl!
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 11:34 AM
ENY = fishburn (or whatever is the spelling) from matrix
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 11:35 AM
"Sarah Palin making her film debut as CHiller"
Next time I see you, I'm GOING TO HURT YOU BAD! : P
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 11:35 AM
I'll take the dude from Fast & Furious
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 11:30 AM
Soft porn movie for me. Black rain, too.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 11:35 AM
Benson = George from Seinfeld
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 11:35 AM
IJ- I love her!
Cousin It= What
I was thinking Helen Mirren for Arkady.
Richard Gere for dibs ;)
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 11:36 AM
All I ask is that you please do NOT cast Mickey Rooney as me!
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 11:37 AM
OMG!
This is hysterical!
Keep going.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 11:37 AM
Benson = George from Seinfeld
We have a whiner!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 11:37 AM
slopefarm,
I'm a big fan, old school swing to be bop. Art Tatum to Coltrane. That music link I posted earlier has Winton Marsalis in it.
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 11:37 AM
Who will play 11217? Gemini10? Bodhi?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:37 AM
All I ask is that you please do NOT cast Mickey Rooney as me!
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 11:37 AM
He's already got the role of one of the Chinamen.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 11:37 AM
I think Richard Gere would be better suited for Biffy.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:38 AM
I had Richard Simmons as 11217 up above.
I bet Will from Will & Grace is DitmasSnark
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 11:39 AM
Kate Beckinsale or Tina Fey for cobble.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 11:39 AM
Actually, now I'm thinking Cheech and Chong as DH and herkimer.
You would be within your rights, cobble. Kind of like casting Ed Asner as benson. Of course, until I met benson, I couldn't stop thinking Robert Gillaume (not to mention an earworm with the damn theme song).
Posted by: slopefarm at October 8, 2009 11:39 AM
Thank God I retained some creative control. Sorry, rejecting Ricky Gervais too, and if I really look like that then I'm NEVER leaving the house again!!
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 11:39 AM
Parker Posey for mopar
the lead guy from Kids in the Hall for etson
Posted by: infinitejester at October 8, 2009 11:39 AM
brownjokester, dear, If you haven't met any of us yet...
how would you know this is so funny!!! ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 11:39 AM
And if you're casting gays to play gays I want Alexander the Great to play me.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 11:40 AM
Tina Fey! Now THAT is an honor! : )
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 11:40 AM
Jeff Bridges for slopefarm
Posted by: infinitejester at October 8, 2009 11:40 AM
11217- Anna Paquin? :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 11:40 AM
Joe Pantoliano as benson?
Posted by: Montrose Morris at October 8, 2009 11:41 AM
I propose another entry for Snappy - the 3rd daughter on Cosby show. Somehow, she looks like her in my fuzzy memory
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 11:41 AM
I've got a new one for Dave...the short obviously gay guy who played Beverly Leslie on Will & Grace!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:41 AM
While we are talking jazz may I just say that St Nick's pub on St Nicholas and 149th Street blew my mind the other night....Why have I never been there before?
Posted by: wasder at October 8, 2009 11:42 AM
Geena Davis for cobble
Posted by: infinitejester at October 8, 2009 11:42 AM
Damn, I have to leave for awhile — thanks for the giggles! Later, asshats!
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 11:42 AM
Snappy this guy???
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm936741376/nm0430074
Yes!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 11:43 AM
I don't know why, but I picture 11217 as Christian Bale. A little hot, a lot mercurial, inconsistent...
Posted by: Nokilissa at October 8, 2009 11:44 AM
M4L, you mean Rudy? No! I'm def Queen Latifah!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:44 AM
Hey, someone forgot to cast a commie PLUSA here. I know I am going to regret asking this but who is going to be playing me?
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 8, 2009 11:44 AM
Snappy, I'm seeing either Kim Fields (Tootie from Facts of Life) or the actress who played Dee on What's Happening playing you.
Tina Fey is a good Cobble.
I can see Richard Dreyfuss (think of him in The American President, and a Republican there to boot) as DIBS.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 11:44 AM
"I think Richard Gere would be better suited for Biffy."
I'll take it (sans hamster)!
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 11:44 AM
YES THL! THAT'S HIM!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:45 AM
I always pictured 11217 as a Nathan Gunn type. He's a very sexy opera singer, a baritone.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at October 8, 2009 11:45 AM
Dustin Hoffman for wasder.
Abbie Hoffman for slopefarm.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 11:46 AM
jessi = nelly furtado
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 11:46 AM
OK, we overlap some, legion. My taste starts around early Ellingon, but goes more modern than you -- includes Dolphy, 70s loft scene, 80s to present mainstream and some experimental (not many republicans like that stuff ;) ). I admire Wynton's technique and smarts, but I'm not a big fan. Also, I appreciate Satchmo, but N'awlins style isn't generally what I listen to. And, per your earlier post, I'm always happy to hear some classic boogaloo, but I need to learn the terrain better.
Posted by: slopefarm at October 8, 2009 11:46 AM
DH should be Joshua Jackson
Lance Riddick would be lechacal- same laser stare.
Cobble's BH- Jude Law
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 11:46 AM
M4L, you mean Rudy? No! I'm def Queen Latifah!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:44 AM
btw, Rudy is pretty cute now grown up. no, the one above her
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 11:47 AM
Actually, Richard Dreyfus did a great Cheney in "W" and that looks more like me!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 11:47 AM
After the nominations are in.
Someone please compile a list of the final selections for the posters.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 11:48 AM
Cargar, when I was younger I used to be called 'Dee' all the time because of her!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:48 AM
Vanessa? No!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:49 AM
Sorry, MM, you can't get by without some snarky options...Hattie Mcdaniel.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 11:49 AM
Buck Henry as DIBS
http://images.broadwayworld.com/upload/18385/7.jpg
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 11:49 AM
bxgrl,
thanks, I've always been a big fan of LL, especially around the time of Rock The Bells, but my appearance is more of a hispanic Russell Wong, if you can believe it, lol.
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 11:50 AM
"CarGar - John Galecki from Big Bang Theory"
Arkady, I've never heard of this guy, but I just used Google Images, and I'll take him! And I'm agreeing with whoever cast Helen Mirren as you.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 11:50 AM
Dennis Rodman (The Worm) as infinitejester.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 11:51 AM
Kens, I'm picturing that aussie dude that married niomi watts - the one who played wolverine's brother (ie sabertooth)
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 11:51 AM
No, sorry, I simply must insist that the guy who was Beverly Leslie on Will & Grace is Dave. Done deal!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:51 AM
slopefarm--have you seen jazz at St Nicks?
Posted by: wasder at October 8, 2009 11:52 AM
Willem Dafoe as jester (if eminem isn't available)
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 11:52 AM
I'm thinking Sean Penn, but Jewish for you Kens. (Or a much younger Kirk Douglas - hey! He's Jewish!)
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 11:52 AM
"ENY = fishburn (or whatever is the spelling) from matrix"
People who know me have compared me (in terms of looks) with Eddie Murphy (years ago) and more recently, with Don Cheadle. I'm not a fan of Denzel. Good actor, but I don't like "BMOC" types. Lawrence Fishburne is OK. He actually lives in Brooklyn.
I tend to think of Dave (although I've never met him) as a Claude Rains type. Without the class, that is.
Posted by: East New York at October 8, 2009 11:53 AM
"No, sorry, I simply must insist that the guy who was Beverly Leslie on Will & Grace is Dave. Done deal!"
Better Dave, than me!
Jude Law isn't tall enough to be BH, Chad and Chet.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 11:54 AM
Wow...we are poised to hit 300 by noon! By the end of the day this thread may have a higher count than my best sheets!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:54 AM
I'm sorry Dave, I was just joking around on that.
Posted by: East New York at October 8, 2009 11:55 AM
I can see Don Cheadle as ENY.
Biff, Dustin Hoffman is a little old for me no? Perhaps mid career Dustin I could accept.
Posted by: wasder at October 8, 2009 11:55 AM
Kathy Najimy as bxgrl
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 11:55 AM
"CarGar - John Galecki from Big Bang Theory"
I know that I'm not quite your type CGar but I've always had a huge crush on Galecki. He also played David Darlene's boyfriend on Roseanne.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 11:55 AM
You won't be joking when the Phillies beat the Yankees.
Eddie Murphy is hot, and most likely closeted gay. no homo
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 11:56 AM
wasder, I was thinking more like Dustin in The Graduate.
But who will play Mrs. Robinson?
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 11:56 AM
Helen Mirren- that was me, ehubs! No wonder we're still married :-)
I want Patrick Stewart for you, but he'll have to wear a wig. Wait! NO- Johnny Galecki is perfect!
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 11:56 AM
- I tend to think of Dave (although I've never met him) as a Claude Rains type. Without the class, that is.
LOL!
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 11:57 AM
Kathy Najimy is perfect!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:57 AM
Dev Patel is going to play the Indian guy I met in The Oak Room last night. Trying to coax him on here.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 11:58 AM
I could never look at John Galecki the same way after he played a big ole wusssie mo in The Opposite of Sex with Christina Ricci.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 11:58 AM
"I tend to think of Dave (although I've never met him) as a Claude Rains type. Without the class, that is."
I tend to think of Mrs C as an Asian Kim Kardashian type. Without the ass, that is.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 12:00 PM
Yes CarGar- but from the Disney Witches movie :-)
I can see ENY as Don Cheadle. Legion- In that case I see Amzi playing you!
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 12:00 PM
Mrs Robinson pretty much invented the concept of MILF I would think.
Posted by: wasder at October 8, 2009 12:00 PM
ENY...I look exactly like Larry Brown, exactly.
http://tinyurl.com/yc3vmxb
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 12:01 PM
From the looks of the cast lineup so far, "Brownstoner: The Movie" will be very expensive!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 12:01 PM
Hattie McDaniel?????????????? Dave, you are asking to be made one with the sidewalk, thanks to a not that plus sized angry black woman.
Don't let me look at you and suggest the actor who played Mr. Whipple.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at October 8, 2009 12:02 PM
Yes, Wasder, Mrs. Robinson is in fact the original MILF.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 12:02 PM
And that wasn't meant as an insult to Mrs C. Her buns are perfect. Kim's butt is trop gros pour moi.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 12:03 PM
ENY...I look exactly like Larry Brown, exactly.
http://tinyurl.com/yc3vmxb
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 12:01 PM
Um, no Dave. You are Beverly Leslie. Accept it. :-)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 12:03 PM
I can see Parkey Posey as Mopar. I've always imagined bxgrl with wild semi-curly hair and MM smiling and looking over the top of her half-frame spectacles.
Posted by: dittoburg at October 8, 2009 12:03 PM
Mr. Whipple!!! ROFL!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 12:04 PM
"Yes, Wasder, Mrs. Robinson is in fact the original MILF."
And the original cougar too!
"Don't let me look at you and suggest the actor who played Mr. Whipple."
OMG, HILARIOUS!
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 12:04 PM
Holy Moly, Dave does look like Larry Brown. I think he IS Larry Brown.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 8, 2009 12:04 PM
Kens, more than a few guys in Philly and here in NY have asked me. And, they always seem to be hot younger black guys. :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 12:06 PM
Maybe we should combine Kathy Najimy and Debra Winger? My hair is more brunette (at least those hairs that aren't gray)than red. And I can't sing :(
dibs? Rocket J. Squirrel
ditmas snark- Snidely Whiplash
Kens- MM and I conferred. Viggo Mortensen
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 12:07 PM
"Holy Moly, Dave does look like Larry Brown. I think he IS Larry Brown."
Damn, you're right! Who else has his days free to post so much and prefers to spend many of his evenings and weekends with African American men?
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 12:07 PM
"I know that I'm not quite your type CGar but I've always had a huge crush on Galecki"
[bxgrl, avert your gaze.]
THL, what makes you think you're not my type? ; ) BTW, other than Wednesday, did we cast you yet?
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 12:07 PM
wasder,
No. I don't get out to hear jazz as much as I used to. It's on my to-do list, along with Sista's out in Bed-Stuy for some experimental sounds. Now I sneak out for an hour at a time to Puppet's, three blocks from home. Music is a bit short of a-list, but sometimes great, and they treat you nicely in there.
Btw, I did meet Abbie Hoffman once. I don't think I look look him, though. Also, I may be fairly liberal, but I'm not inclined to disrupt the NYSE by tossing dollar bills down.
Posted by: slopefarm at October 8, 2009 12:07 PM
slopefarm,
excellent. you see, it's always possible to find common ground. who can say no to Satchmo, Bird and Lady Day?
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 12:08 PM
Slopefarm, it was less about the looks and more about the politics, passionate debating and connection to the courts that prompted it. Meant to be a huge compliment. My old band wrote and performed a song dedicated to Abbie.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 12:09 PM
Viggo Mortensen = Kens. Good casting call.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 12:10 PM
Oh, man, legion, don't get me started on those late thirties Billie sides. Close to perfection.
Posted by: slopefarm at October 8, 2009 12:11 PM
Brownstoner; the Movie?
sounds like a Robert Altman production to me.lol
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 12:12 PM
Dave, next time someone mistakes you for Larry, you should use that to your advantage. If someone at the restaurant asks you, totally play that card, you might get free food and booze.
Bxgrl, I like Viggo Mortensen but I am way younger. Anyone younger to play me?
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 8, 2009 12:12 PM
Busy afternoon so just coming in now. What's going on with all the actor names?
Posted by: the chicken at October 8, 2009 12:13 PM
Did we cast DH? How about Kevin Bacon?
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 12:13 PM
Brownstoner; the Movie?
sounds like a Robert Altman production to me.lol
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 12:12 PM
More like Mel Brooks production.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 8, 2009 12:14 PM
The role of THL was very generously cast as Courtney Cox.
Couger is it a slow day at the *other* blog. I'm guessing the other half of the team Sarah Palin will be stopping by as well then.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 12:14 PM
"Bxgrl, I like Viggo Mortensen but I am way younger. Anyone younger to play me?"
the scary russian dude from rocky iv ;)
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 12:14 PM
How about Denton: George C. Scott?
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 12:15 PM
I hate to ask but...is this reserved for genuINE PLUSA's only, or what?
Posted by: Nokilissa at October 8, 2009 12:16 PM
i go to lunch and come back and you people are STILL circle jerking each other!?
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 8, 2009 12:17 PM
There's a corn beat down going on in another thread.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 12:17 PM
slopefarm,
you said it all right there.
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 12:18 PM
Chicken, you get to be played by Jon Hamm. Or at least that is how I picture you. In a chicken suit of course.
Posted by: Nokilissa at October 8, 2009 12:18 PM
We're also missing actors for cmu and Adam Dahill
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 12:19 PM
"i go to lunch and come back and you people are STILL circle jerking each other!?"
Does this mean we're all going to get another earful late tonight from BrooklynGreene?
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 12:20 PM
Wow Noki - I just googled him and it's like looking into a mirror (a mirror with a picture of Jon Hamm taped to the front...)
Posted by: the chicken at October 8, 2009 12:20 PM
Snappy don't forget we're, well I am still waiting for pictures of long lanky Hari.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 12:20 PM
Katie Holmes for bodhi
Posted by: infinitejester at October 8, 2009 12:21 PM
- I hate to ask but...is this reserved for genuINE PLUSA's only, or what?
Posted by: Nokilissa at October 8, 2009 12:16 PM
- We're also missing actors for cmu and Adam Dahill
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 12:19 PM
D'OH!
Also missing is an actor for Nokilissa.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 12:22 PM
Jane Krakowski as WonTon
Posted by: infinitejester at October 8, 2009 12:22 PM
dirty hipster,
a younger Viggo? how about Ryan Gosling looking scruffy like in that movie that takes place on the Brooklyn Bridge?
that dude from Rocky is Dolf Lundgren, he was married to Grace Jones for a time.
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 12:23 PM
"We're also missing actors for cmu and Adam Dahill"
And sixyears and CG_ups
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 12:23 PM
Noki- of course not. You're going to be played by Holly Hunter (I love her, btw!)
BJster- Sara Jessica Parker?
Kens- but he's a star! A little make up and vaseline over the camera lens, it's all good.
(aside to Legion- Bessie Smith)
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 12:24 PM
"You won't be joking when the Phillies beat the Yankees."
Big talk, Dave. We'll see.
Posted by: East New York at October 8, 2009 12:24 PM
I've been wracking my brain trying to think of someone for Nokilissa. Initially I thought Diane Keaton for some reason - perhaps because I totally adore Diane Keaton - but the physical resemblance isn't that close. Noki is much prettier.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 12:24 PM
Aw, chicken. I'm in love ;)
And while on the subject of Mad Men, doesn't Cobble look a lot like Maggie Siff? Doppelganger.
Posted by: Nokilissa at October 8, 2009 12:25 PM
Aw, chicken. I'm in love ;)
And while on the subject of Mad Men, doesn't Cobble look a lot like Maggie Siff? Doppelganger.
Posted by: Nokilissa at October 8, 2009 12:25 PM
I took some pics last night THL but they don't show off the legs so well...I'll upload them in a few.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 12:25 PM
Margaret Cho for CG_ups?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 12:27 PM
Hmmm.....Noki is very elegant and funny at the same time. Maybe Julia Louis-Dreyfuss?
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 12:27 PM
"ENY...I look exactly like Larry Brown, exactly."
Larry Brown is often considered the best dresser among NBA coaches, over the years wresting that title from Pat Riley. Quite distinguished! Larry Brown is also a Brooklyn native.
Posted by: East New York at October 8, 2009 12:28 PM
I think I've got THL. Jane Leeves. And we know how she looks pregnant!
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 12:28 PM
hello all, a brief respite at work is allowing me to sheepishly check in to see if there are any boozey offerings in the works, (besides next week's award ceremony...). Margaritas, PBR, sangria, all welcome.
Posted by: herkimermaid at October 8, 2009 12:29 PM
"Noki is very elegant and funny at the same time"
Maybe a dolled up Meryl Streep could play her?
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 12:29 PM
Last casting tries for Noki:
Catherine Deneuve
Ingrid Bergman
Lauren Bacall
Eva Gabor
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 12:31 PM
biff,
hummm, a prettier Diane Keaton....comedic actress...
howabout Jennifer Aniston or Jennifer Garner?
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 12:33 PM
herki - where u been!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 12:33 PM
"hello all, a brief respite at work is allowing me to sheepishly check in to see if there are any boozey offerings in the works"
Hey, herk! Long time, no see. I'm planning to check out the opening of Henry Public (Atlantic & Henry) tonight if you -- or anyone else -- wants to join me there. Last night was "friends and family" only but the place looks great, and it's not like there are any bars near Atlantic Ave . . .
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 12:34 PM
Oh my lord! Me likey.
However, I thinks I must get out of my sweatpants, LLBean slippers and ponytail first.
(I always used to get Glenn Close, christine Lahti and the occasional, cruelly, Mel Brooks!)
Posted by: Nokilissa at October 8, 2009 12:36 PM
[I better beware. Looks like the TKOTD hour is upon us.]
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 12:38 PM
"However, I thinks I must get out of my sweatpants, LLBean slippers and ponytail first."
"Noki is very elegant and funny at the same time"
Noki, it's not very elegant to be walking around topless.
But it can be very funny...at least when it's me doing it.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 12:39 PM
hey guys, yeah it's been a while. Freakin' job :) I saw that about Henry Public opening. Looks like a respectable joint. hmmm tonight is possible... though I couldn't meet you there 'til later. What time were you thinking CarGar?
Posted by: herkimermaid at October 8, 2009 12:39 PM
"[I better beware. Looks like the TKOTD hour is upon us.]"
CGar, did you miss the memo that said we've done away with the TKOTD? It was discouraging posting and website hits and we just couldn't do that to Mark Ruffalo, er, Mr. B.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 12:41 PM
bessie smith. wow. yeah, they should have a postage stamp tribute for her.
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 12:42 PM
"CGar, did you miss the memo that said we've done away with the TKOTD? It was discouraging posting and website hits"
Translation = Biff got his first TKOTD! ; )
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 12:46 PM
Herk, I live around the corner, so if you want to check it out, I can meet you any time you want to go.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 12:46 PM
DH, I have another "no fee" rental site for you, and this one also has Brooklyn listings:
http://www.suburbancityrentals.com/
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 12:48 PM
hey CarGar that sounds great, though being the aspiring PLUSA I am just realized tonight won't work so well b/c of an AM Dr's appt (announcing for all the world to know) that I should be *fit* for. I'd really love to check it out though so can we do another time? Is next week at Union Hall still in the works? Haven't seen youse guys in ages.
Posted by: herkimermaid at October 8, 2009 12:51 PM
LOL, Herk! Another time, and I'm up for Brooklyn Inn any time you want. Yes, Union Hall next Thursday, 10/15.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 12:54 PM
Amzi = Tyson Beckford
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 12:54 PM
THL, they aren't who you think they are.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 12:55 PM
"Translation = Biff got his first TKOTD! ; )"
LMAO. Seems like that is it, but honestly it was more about people continuing to post.
Herk, yes it is and here goes the shpiel:
The Second Annual End of the World Party for Fans of Brownstoner will be held Thursday, October 15 at Union Hall in Park Slope. The gathering starts at 6pm. From 7pm on, we will have our own dedicated space at the back of the bar. Hope to see you there! Below are directions to the venue and the website for Union Hall:
Directions
http://tinyurl.com/ybvkfd5
Website
http://www.unionhallny.com/home.php
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 12:55 PM
I just simulataneously killed both this OT and the other one!!! >>>>>>>
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 1:08 PM
"bessie smith. wow. yeah, they should have a postage stamp tribute for her."
Without question.
Posted by: East New York at October 8, 2009 1:08 PM
Is everybody at the Kraft Service Tables?
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 1:10 PM
I was just at The Blarney Stone
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 1:12 PM
"Is everybody at the Kraft Service Tables?"
It's just past noon. I think DIBS is at a service table, but probably not the kind that has bagels and muffins on it.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 1:13 PM
CGar, I'm doing some research tonight until like 8:30, then I can join you at Henry Public if you don't mind.
Posted by: infinitejester at October 8, 2009 1:13 PM
thanks for the info guys, see you next week for sure. CarGAr, definitely want to check out H Public and always love the Inn so I'll drop you a line to see if you're up for one or the other as soon as can!
Posted by: herkimermaid at October 8, 2009 1:14 PM
Hi everyone!
sorry, I needed a break from this site plus am working a new role at work which has me super busy all day. I see the usuals are all still here plus some new faces. Is that party still happening at union hall next week?
Posted by: gemini10 at October 8, 2009 1:16 PM
Henry Street was hurting for a good hangout spot. Hopefully this new one will be successful.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 1:16 PM
"Is that party still happening at union hall next week?"
G10, please see my 12:55pm post above.
Do you think you and Mr. G10 will finally be able to make the party?
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 1:18 PM
G10....somebody was just asking where u went on here yesterday!!!!
yes, Oct 15 @ Union Hall
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 1:18 PM
jester, any time tonight is good. I'll go home first and walk the dog. Let me know when you're heading over, and if I'm not there already, I'll meet you there.
Herk, see you next week. Any time for Brooklyn Inn, and we'll let you know how Henry Public is tonight.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 1:20 PM
Gonna go hit the Kraft Service Table. What was good?
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 1:22 PM
"...they aren't who you think they are."
Sounds very ominous!
Well, that's not what's been said. If I heard wrong so be it.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 1:23 PM
"I see the usuals are all still here plus some new faces."
Yes, lurkers show up Oct. 15th!!!
Posted by: infinitejester at October 8, 2009 1:25 PM
They aren't. They may have had another login but they rarely used them and they aren't cougar & sarah. Wrongly accused, just like someone else was of being AL
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 1:25 PM
awwww - very sweet! we can try!!!
Dibs - have you tried any new places up here in the 50's?
ok I know I will get pounded on - but I am one of those "weirdos" who doesnt have an iphone. but my contract is up and am thinking of getting one!
any pros/cons
Posted by: gemini10 at October 8, 2009 1:27 PM
Pregnant Women always make good food decisions.
So, THL, what did you have for lunch? What do you recommend?
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 1:28 PM
Oh the drama.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 1:29 PM
THL, DIBS is definitely correct. Let's just all move on.
Things seem ok for now.
Everyone please click on Ray Charles once more to refresh our happy thoughts for the rest of the day!
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 1:29 PM
- Everyone please click on Ray Charles once more to refresh our happy thoughts for the rest of the day!
A happy ending for the day.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 1:32 PM
"Pregnant Women always make good food decisions.
So, THL, what did you have for lunch? What do you recommend?"
Ha, you think so? Brace yourself...
I had a frozen waffle (toasted) with peanut butter and apricot jam sandwich.
I'm guessing you're rethinking your statement now huh?
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 1:32 PM
really biff- perhaps you haven't seen the latest with benson. On the other blog.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 1:32 PM
Haha here we go again!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 1:33 PM
Yes SIR!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 1:33 PM
Then perhaps we should also stopping mentioning Wwhat's blog over here in the attempt to recruit or get a rise out of people.
Just sayin...
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 1:34 PM
Biff, such the diplomat.
bxgrl, you been lurking over there?? naughty little girl.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 1:35 PM
nope- all I'm saying about it.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 1:35 PM
My fresh direct order will be arriving soon. Yipee! All hail food delivery for the sick and lazy :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 1:35 PM
The What's blog!!! WohooooOOooooOOOoo!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 1:36 PM
every once in awhile. :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 1:37 PM
THL:
#1 - are you pregs?
#2 - ok taht sandwich is MY KINDA SANWICHE!
anyone, iphone recs, anyone?
Posted by: gemini10 at October 8, 2009 1:37 PM
"My fresh direct order will be arriving soon."
Yes, I like them when they're fresh and direct.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 1:37 PM
Snappy, you better pray CG_ups doesn't see your Margaret Cho post.
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 1:37 PM
Actually THL, that sounds pretty good. Except I have no access to a toaster. And waffles. And Peanut Butter. And jam.
I think I'll just get a Mozz. Tom. Basil Sandwich. Can't go wrong.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 1:37 PM
And you people call me an instigator. :-P
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 1:37 PM
Snaps- aren't they expensive?
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 1:38 PM
- And you people call me an instigator. :-P
I just wanted some lunch!
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 1:39 PM
no dave- we call you evil :)
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 1:39 PM
"I had a frozen waffle (toasted) with peanut butter and apricot jam sandwich."
I'm not pregnant, and those both sound great to me.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 1:40 PM
Catchy song, a cover of a classic reggae song. Note the echo on the snare.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFhMOm38lAc
Posted by: infinitejester at October 8, 2009 1:40 PM
Yup. sure am.
Well, I bought the case o' waffles at BJ's so if anyone wants one feel free to stop by.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 1:41 PM
Bxgirl, I was surprised to find that their prices are better than the grocery store! And, a friend of mine who uses them got a free delivery coupon code to give to a friend who signs up as a new customer, so delivery isn't costing me anything. Yay!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 1:41 PM
NO MORE FIGHTING! That's all I want for my birthday. I'm a child of divorce. Fighting among people who should be getting along traumatizes me. (And, bxgrl, you should know better!)
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 1:41 PM
Did someone ring?
Hi folks! I'm having a cold beer over on The What's blog! You're welcome to join.
Posted by: benson at October 8, 2009 1:42 PM
anyone, iphone recs, anyone?
Posted by: gemini10 at October 8, 2009 1:37 PM
Of all the apps, I was a bit surprised to learn they DIDN'T have a decibel-o-meter.
Posted by: infinitejester at October 8, 2009 1:42 PM
"Yes SIR!"
THL, you are way too strong and independent for me to believe it is that easy to get you to agree with me. But I did like the sound of that.
:-)
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 1:45 PM
No, I don't believe we did Benson but I'm sure you're in need of some attention so you decided to pop by and push buttons.
Sad.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 1:45 PM
I'm so tickled that the open thread spilled over into the What's blog with DIBS, Biff and Benson. Just great.
Posted by: dittoburg at October 8, 2009 1:46 PM
"Well, I bought the case o' waffles at BJ's so if anyone wants one feel free to stop by."
Some never waffle when offered the case of a free BJ.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 1:46 PM
Did someone ring?
Hi folks! I'm having a cold beer over on The What's blog! You're welcome to join.
Posted by: benson at October 8, 2009 1:42 PM
WAIT, THIS IS NOW GETTING VERY, VERY CONFUSING. I thought you only drank Manhattans.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 1:47 PM
New name for THL - TownhouseClassyLady
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 1:47 PM
g10, I don't have an iphone either but given my itouch runs similer apps, I would say it's very good. only issue is you're paying a pretty big premium on the rate plans - ie for the same data svcs, you'll be paying more due to iphone vs. non-iphone. if you could/would wait a little longer, you should cause there should be much more competition forthcoming - such as new google android phones coming to at&t and verizon, palm pre will show up in verizon (not sure about AT&T, new blackberry storm,....
I suspect many of those goodies should be out soon as I think they would want to capitalize on holiday season buying binges
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 1:48 PM
THL, can you please do a shout out for your blog again?
I'm going to do an inaugural post over there.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 1:49 PM
- "Well, I bought the case o' waffles at BJ's"
I've never sold waffles!
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 1:50 PM
- "Well, I bought the case o' waffles at BJ's"
I've never sold waffles!
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 1:50 PM
Maybe not but everyone's seen your Flapjacks.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 1:50 PM
This is why I love DH. He manages to not only score buy backs more than anyone else I've ever seen, but he somehow manages to be the only one to ever avoid shrapnel!
DH, you're my hero! No homo, no herro...
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 1:51 PM
bj- but do you waffle on things?
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 1:51 PM
off to force the Great Evll to make me lunch.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 1:52 PM
I think ditto has been there. He saw that pic of the stripper and went wild. Aiy Chihuahua
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 1:53 PM
What really should rename his blog AttentionWhoreHill.
Seems all they want to do is talk trash about the B'Stoner OT. Come in to provoke the B'Stoner OT, then run back and giggle about how awful we are.
Serious question guys, If it's so freeking phenomenal over there then why are you always over here talking it up? Why not just stay there?
It's really pathetic and immature.
Don't get me wrong. I have no problem with his having a blog or OT frankly, I think it's great. I just think your all being so disingenuous.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 1:53 PM
off to force the Great Evll to make me lunch.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 1:52 PM
Saucer of milk???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 1:54 PM
Benson, Muffet says you can post on her blog too
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 1:54 PM
I already deal with enough recruiting every day as I pass by the Jehovah Witnesses in Brooklyn Heights.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 1:54 PM
love you THL! Right on target.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 1:55 PM
THL...someone yesterday likened the two OTs to two different bars...same format, same liquor, same songs different clientele.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 1:55 PM
no- bison haunch.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 1:56 PM
IJ - hahah
M4L - ok good to know. I have tmobile now and my contract is up and they owe me 2 upgrades and they really wouldn't do that great of a deal on the mytouch. if I went with the iphone it would cost me $50 more for the faster version with more GB and my monthly rate plan was $5-7 more than tmobile
THL - congrats!!
Posted by: gemini10 at October 8, 2009 1:56 PM
Yes, I can't keep my eyes off the extraordinary derriere, so I've banned myself from that site.
Posted by: dittoburg at October 8, 2009 1:56 PM
One uses more Angostura bitters & one uses more simple syrup.
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 1:57 PM
I'm going to get lunch, but I doubt I'll be able to find waffles now that I want them.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 1:59 PM
"THL...someone yesterday likened the two OTs to two different bars...same format, same liquor, same songs different clientele."
Very true. Call me crazy though, when I'm at one bar I don't keep talking about how great the other bar is and all the fun times I have when I'm over there. Nor do I run back and forth telling each what's going on at the other. When I hop I leave the other behind.
I think that's rude and inconsiderate to the management.
Maybe you're a different kinda patron then I am though.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 1:59 PM
THL, you know I like you. But no need for a blanket insult. For the record, not everyone is doing what you're saying. For instance, I don't think I've done any trashing of either blog nor have I ever quoted over there anything one has said here and vice versa. No need to paint everyone with the same brush. Just like not everyone here acts the same. Ok, back to Georgia on my Mind.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 2:00 PM
And yet the regulars here, I'm assuming the simple syrup people, or not, are up in the HOTD with the Italian jokes again.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 2:01 PM
g10, if tmobile allows you to float month-month till into Dec, do it. you might still end up with the iphone but at least you'll be deciding post having oppty to play with new gizmo's from all the providers before deciding - regret is an annoying little bitch you want to avoid if you can and that's the reason why I'm suggesting you wait to play with the new gizmos if they're indeed coming out before yearend.
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 2:01 PM
"Seems all they want to do is talk trash about the B'Stoner OT. Come in to provoke the B'Stoner OT, then run back and giggle about how awful we are. "
Actually no
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 2:04 PM
Biff stop being so sensitive did I say EVERYONE? I didn't mean you so pull out your wedgie.
You want names though? Fine, I'll name them:
Benson
DH
Dave
Ditto
and Lech
No one is saying boo about your jumping back and forth but seriously, stop with the they said this, they said that, we're doing this, and they're doing that crap.
We're all capable of looking at both if we want to.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 2:05 PM
What are you guys all talking about?
the What's blog has legs now?
Posted by: gemini10 at October 8, 2009 2:08 PM
The What's blog is soooooo cool
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 2:08 PM
Why, because it disrupts the seriousness of the ongoing conversations here. ROTFLMMFAO
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 2:09 PM
Yay! Have food! When I get better anyone wanna join me for some chicken and shrimp paella? Or some chilli garlic shrimp with spring veggie stir fry? :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 2:10 PM
And in Entertainment News:
The cast of Brownstoner: The Movie are having internal fights on set.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 2:11 PM
Cats.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 2:11 PM
"I didn't mean you so pull out your wedgie."
But it kinda feels good in a weird way...
"We're all capable of looking at both if we want to."
THL, true, but I don't know the reason for your 12:14 PM post, which kind of fanned the flames. Nobody else was talking about it at the time.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 2:11 PM
Hey THL - I can say whatever I want!! Na na nah nah!!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 2:12 PM
Every good restaurant has spinoffs when the sous chefs leave to go out on their own. And typically the patrons of the first restaurant patronize the spinoffs.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 2:13 PM
Snappy, chicken and shrimp paella for mwa por favor. Me likely. Just name a date and time and I'll be over with my bib, fork and knife.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 8, 2009 2:14 PM
THL;
Happy to see that I'm on the top of your list!
First, thank you for advising me that I'm an attention-seeker. I'll especially take that advice from someone who has their own personal blog, and who is one of the top posters on this site.
On to your other point, please repeat this idea to yourself, and this goes for others: you are not the owner of this site, and no one appointed you or any others as the hall monitor. You and others are not here to hand out the script. When that point is clear, I'll be back.
When this all started to happen, I was one of the defenders of this OT. What did I get for it? A gratuitous ad hominen attack for stating an unpopular opinion.
Moreover, there are those who try to police this site to be politically correct.
When this is a true OT, I'll be back. In the mean time: no homo, baby!
Posted by: benson at October 8, 2009 2:14 PM
BJ...I'd love for Mario Lopez (Extra) to interview me about the drama. He is soooooooooooooo hot.
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=yfp-t-156&va=Mario+Lopez
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 2:16 PM
A neutral, gnomic utterance:
Hypocrisy in the name of fatuous self-righteousness.
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 2:17 PM
Dibs,
I don't think it was gemini and minard's Italian comments that drove benson today. He, bx, jtb, and montrose were having an intense, intelligent and civil exchange on the affordable housing therad, and some newbie showed up and called him a schmuck. He had enough and left. His choice, but it wasn't the regulars who drove him off. It was a relatively intelligent discussion on all sides up to that point. You spar about politics, poverty and social policy on any blog long enough, someone's gonna call you a schmuck, or worse, no matter what your views are.
I guess the nice thing about what's OT, and indeed the entire blog, is nobody has a substantive word to say about anything at all.
Posted by: slopefarm at October 8, 2009 2:18 PM
A neutral, gnomic utterance, about baseball:
He walked and drove in a run.
Posted by: infinitejester at October 8, 2009 2:20 PM
No slopefarm, it wasn't...they came later. I think the affordable housing thread was a good discussion and you're right, on a blog you're going to get called names. God knows I've doe it and had it done to me maybe once or twice.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 2:23 PM
How about Tom Hanks as Biff?
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 2:25 PM
Georgia, Georgia
The whole day through (the whole day through)
Just an old sweet song
Keeps Georgia on my mind (Georgia on my mind)
I said a Georgia, Georgia
A song of you (a song of you)
Comes as sweet and clear as moonlight through the pines
Other arms reach out to me
Other eyes smile tenderly
Still in the peaceful dreams I see
The road leads back to you
I said Georgia, oh Georgia, no peace I find (no peace i find)
Just an old sweet song
Keeps Georgia on my mind (Georgia on my mind oh)
Other arms reach out to me
Other eyes smile tenderly
Still in peaceful dreams I see
The road leads back to you
Oh Georgia,
No peace, no peace I find
Just an old, sweet song
Keeps Georgia on my mind (Georgia on my mind)
Other arms reach out to me
Other eyes smile tenderly
Still in peaceful dreams I see
The road leads back to you
Oh Georgia, Georgia
No peace, no peace I find
Just an old sweet song
Keeps Georgia on my mind (Georgia on my mind)
I said just an old sweet song
Keeps Georgia on my mind
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 2:25 PM
Snappy, Kens, chicken stir fry from the Conde Nast cafeteria. Pretty good.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 2:27 PM
im·plode (ĭm-plōd')
v. im·plod·ed, im·plod·ing, im·plodes
v. intr.
To collapse inward violently.
v. tr.
1.
To cause to collapse inward violently.
Used in a sentence: The Open Thread has just imploded.
Later folks.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 8, 2009 2:28 PM
so the What's blog is basically a mancave for the brownstoner crowd.
strippers, cursing, name-calling and rude gestures.
now I get it.lol.
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 2:28 PM
Yes, let's get back to the serious talk.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 2:28 PM
"How about Tom Hanks as Biff?"
Yeah, he would just have to ressurect his Forrest Gump character. The Open Thread is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 2:28 PM
- How about Tom Hanks as Biff?
He did star in Big.
"Biff, rumor has always been that Kevin Kline is packing some serious trouser heat. Take it as a compliment."
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 2:30 PM
"Later folks."
I suspect this is a ploy to lull us into a false sense of security and she'll be right back to steal #500 from us.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 2:31 PM
Slopefarm;
Sorry, you've got it wrong. I'm a big boy, and can take being called names. In fact, I tried to deflect the affordable housing thread by calling myself a schmuck.
Consider instead something that happened two days ago on the OT. I wrote an e-mail to Pete about Obama's foreign policy (to which he later responded).
What was interesting to me, however, was that Montrose wrote a post stating that she would not respond to me. Interesting to me. When I don't want to respond to someone, I just don't respond.
Soon thereafter, Bxgrl comes along, also repeats that she won't respond,launches into an ad hominen attack, and then indeed responds.
Thread monitor much? Political correctness much?
Hey, if I can't express my ideas freely, and the only thing this thread is going to be about is bon mots back and forth, then I'll just go to the What's thread. It's more fun. No thread monitors.
No homo.
Posted by: benson at October 8, 2009 2:32 PM
"so the What's blog is basically a mancave for the brownstoner crowd."
ROTFLMMFAO
Every brownstone should have one.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 2:32 PM
BJ, very nice call back.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 2:33 PM
Brooke Astor's Son Marshall Convicted of Defrauding Her
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 2:34 PM
THL, Snappy and all others:
Arm & Hammer is having a Funny Cat Video contest.....
http://www.youtube.com/armandhammerpets#p/a/2/istomGi1Wqc
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 2:38 PM
so the What's blog is basically a mancave for the brownstoner crowd.
strippers, cursing, name-calling and rude gestures.
now I get it.lol.
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 2:28 PM
Damn, I want a mancave like that! Something about ASS in a title of the webpage makes my work cyber alert tell me that I am a naughty boy hence I can't post there even if I really wanted to.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 8, 2009 2:40 PM
assuming we're discussing the movie version of the OT, Clooney is the obvious choice to play Biff! Apologies if someone suggested it already... can't read all 480 posts... crawling back under my rock now. If I think of any other gems I'll be sure to let you all know :)
Posted by: herkimermaid at October 8, 2009 2:40 PM
benson,
what happened Tues? you went missing in action and I had to defend the conservative front by myself with a few reinforcements from Kensingtonian.
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 2:42 PM
"assuming we're discussing the movie version of the OT, Clooney is the obvious choice to play Biff!"
Ok, my day went from good to not so good to perfect!
Herk, you have just been awarded the job of Casting Director. You rock!!!
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 2:44 PM
Herk, you have just been awarded the job of Casting Director. You rock!!!
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 2:44 PM
And while you're at it why don't you castrate the Director's rocks.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 2:47 PM
I think Astor's son thought he waited long enough for the money. Kinda like those people who have the RC tenants.
Posted by: Petebklyn at October 8, 2009 2:48 PM
YAY! I've always wanted to be a casting director! But I'm stunned that nobody suggested it already. You're off your game today people :) Thank goodness i stopped by.
Posted by: herkimermaid at October 8, 2009 2:49 PM
I'll bring some tape and gloves (depending on fighter's preference) to the gathering so the combatants can settle it once & for all - ie put up or........... like the OT, there'll be no rules, no restrictions,...
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 2:50 PM
I'm sure he has nice casting couch. Don't wear it out.
Posted by: Petebklyn at October 8, 2009 2:51 PM
excellent rewrite DIBS. I assume you're head screen writer? :) please take that and run with it people.
Posted by: herkimermaid at October 8, 2009 2:52 PM
"But I'm stunned that nobody suggested it already. You're off your game today people :) Thank goodness i stopped by."
Well, truth be told, I think everyone, including me, is probably stunned that anyone did suggest it, but I love you just the same. The only similarity is the salt and pepper hair (more salt than pepper on the sides according to previously referenced barber). And yes, thank goodness you stopped by!
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 2:52 PM
DIBS is key grip. He'll be working with the Best Boy.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 2:53 PM
benson (assuming you are still lurking),
Glad you clarified, and I wouldn't presume to speak for you. We've disagreed on many things but I do like your posts. Not sure how bx and montrose keep you from posting freely. Bx can get a bit excitable, as can you, hence your shared award, but you did return after the exchange you cite to engage thoughtfully with her today. I am not saying you have any obligation to be here or to put up with anything you don't like. But I think you overstate the case about "thread monitors." I may be wrong, but I don't recall anyone telling you you are not entitle to have, or express, your point of view.
Fwiw, yesterday I posted a recommendation for "The Big Sort" by Bill Bishop. He talks about a lot of the social factors that have lead to increasing polarization, left and right, over the last 30 years. Among other things, he talks about how, after we have all sorted ourselves by residence and various activities and associations into increasingly like-minded communities (again, both left and right), we tend -- and there is lots of psych. and sociological research on this -- both to move towards the extremes and come to perceive the otehr group as more extreme than it is. I am afraid that communication by computer -- email, blogs, etc. further amplifies this trend. I am not at all singling you, or conservatives on this site in general, for this. I do bemoan how often these discussions deteriorate into mere sparring and namecalling.
Enjoy life over there. I won't be joining you. Hope to see you at a real bar again, either a PLUSA gathering or otherwise.
Posted by: slopefarm at October 8, 2009 2:55 PM
You're being too modest Biff (also a very Clooney-like quality, I might add).
Posted by: herkimermaid at October 8, 2009 2:57 PM
Legion, nothing to do with conservative views. Nationalizing healthcare will drive this country into the shitter and I for one, will not like that. I left a communist country for a reason and don't want it back. That's how shit starts. You nationalize healthcare, what's next, nationalize other competitive fields? Fuck the land of opportunity, reward laziness.
If someone wants national healthcare and is still bitching, go live in Russia or any country that provides that. People love to bitch and moan but not do anything about it.
I am sick of this nonsense already. You people live in the greatest country in the world, have greatest luxuries in the world and bitch and moan. M4L and myself understand that wholeheartedly. If you had something to compare to, you would praise U.S. real fast once you see that 95% of the world living is not as peachy as here.
Now, I better be nominated for next years Best Rant awards!!!!
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 8, 2009 3:01 PM
or finding the key to working the boy's best grip?
Posted by: herkimermaid at October 8, 2009 3:01 PM
Slopefarm;
As usual, you make some good points. From a techncial point of view, you are right: no one can stop me from posting whatever I damn please here, so maybe I should clarify my point further.
One participates in a community when one feels that their views are given a respectful hearing. That statement perhaps sums up my issue the best. Take a look at what happened on that OT, and you tell me who was being respectful to whom. You're a smart guy, and I'm sure you know that there is a sociological phenomenon for how communities self-enforce (as an engineer, I don't know the term, but I think you know what I'm talking about).
See you around. I plan to be at the Union Bar, but on the late side.
Posted by: benson at October 8, 2009 3:03 PM
"You're being too modest Biff (also a very Clooney-like quality, I might add)."
With all due respect to Montrose, how is it even possible that Herk didn't win the Most Eloquent (and Visually Impaired) Poster award ???
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 3:03 PM
WAIT! Did I lose already and the awards haven't even been given out?? I better win the ultimate PLUSA award for that.
Posted by: herkimermaid at October 8, 2009 3:06 PM
Herk, the awards were announced the other day (Tuesday, maybe?). The Ultimate PLUSA would be the one who could name the winners and honourable mentions in each category. Not even I could do that.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 3:07 PM
kensingtonian,
I have a friend from an old USSR satellite republic. you just summed up his opinion exactly.
My opinion is that we have to decide which of the following is the most basic of human qualities;
fear or laziness
because both lead to a jackboot on the back of our necks and both are found in far too much abundance in a complacent population.
namely the USA.
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 3:09 PM
The PLUSAs were only yesterday, Biff, LOL.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 3:10 PM
Kens, I grew up in Canada, so I suppose it's all a matter of perspective. I feel I'm coming from a place with a much better system than the US and you're coming from a totally opposite place, so it's understandable we might feel differently. It's interesting how one's views are so dependant on one's benchmark for comparison.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 3:10 PM
Shoot I thought it the awards were for the thing at Union Hall next week. Is there a list? I missed submitting but want to see who won.
Posted by: herkimermaid at October 8, 2009 3:11 PM
Having traveled extensively and lived in Asia, I consider it (including the PRC) to be the most capitalistic, enterprising and entrepreneurial part of the world. I can definitely see the reference to laziness and complacency here. The sense of entitlement is mind boggling.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 3:13 PM
i just went to the other ot. it's waaaaay too darkside for my tastes.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at October 8, 2009 3:13 PM
Herk, awards were announced yesterday (thanks CGar) and will not be presented at Union Hall. However, the gathering at Union Hall IS still happening on Oct. 15.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 3:13 PM
Benson, tape or gloves? if gloves, what size?
the counter will be open for bets 30 minutes prior to the fight and the lines will be posted 15 minutes prior to that.
man, only if we're all skilled rappers cause we could have a rap-off face-off open mike thing. I can see Arkady bust out the extensive vocabulary, Rob firing from all topics & opinions, CGar hesitating to counter punch, and the crowd waits with eager anticipation for the main event - ???? vs ????
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 3:14 PM
I will see you there, benson.
Posted by: slopefarm at October 8, 2009 3:14 PM
"just went to the other ot. it's waaaaay too darkside for my tastes."
That's why DIBS spends so much time there; he prefers darksides.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 3:15 PM
- Herk, you have just been awarded the job of Casting Director. You rock!!!
Did someone rock the Casting Couch to get a hunky actor to play them?
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 3:16 PM
Thanks George :) CarGar will you repost the list sometime? See you guys next week. Job beckons...
Posted by: herkimermaid at October 8, 2009 3:17 PM
Since you're all dying of suspense, I will confirm I got post #500 at 3:03 PM.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 3:17 PM
Biff, did you view my Bloomberg TV spots????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 3:18 PM
Herkimer, Herkimer, Herkimer. "When you sleep this late, you're bound to miss some mini-dramas." --Glenn Close to Jeff Goldblum in "The Big Chill".
As you requested:
Snappy and I present, for your pleasure, the WINNERS for the First Annual Brownstoner Regular Choice Awards!
1. Lifetime Achievement Award to a poster that makes Brownstoner a good read, one way or another.
Winner: Montrose Morris, by a landslide
Honorable Mention: daveinbedstuy and Biff Champion - tie
2. Best Rant of the Year
Winner: The What
Honorable Mention: benson
3. Best Debater
Winner: Lechecal
Honorable mention: 3 way tie - benson, bxgrl, and daveinbedstuy
4. Brownstoner Readers Pick of Neighborhood to Live
Winner: Park Slope
Honorable Mention to Cobble Hill, Carroll Gardens, "BoCoCa" and Fort Greene (4 way tie)
5. Most Mercurial
Winner is a tie: bxgrl and 11217
Honorable mention to benson and What
6. Quickest to Forgive
Winner is a tie: rob & cobblehiller
Honorable mention: bxgrl, insertsnappynamehere and wasder
7. Most Frequent User of ALL CAPS
Winner: What
Honorable mention: daveinbedstuy
8. Most Eloquent
Winner: Montrose Morris, by a landslide
Honorable mention: Nostalgic on Park
9. Most Completely Freaking Random [like, you say WTF? to almost every post]
Winner is rob/pitbull/butterfly, by a landslide
Honorable mention: infinitejester
10. Best Speller
Winner is Arkady, by a landslide
Honorable mention: Montrose Morris
11. Worst Speller
Winner is rob/pitbull/butterfly
Honorable mention: Bayridgegirl
12. Best Rivalry
Winner is bxgrl v. benson, by a landslide
Honorable mention: daveinbedstuy v. What
13. Best Login Name
Winner is insertsnappynamehere
Honorable mention: Dirty Hipster, bowl of dicks, Biff Champion, SnarkSlope(DitmasSnark), lothar of the clinton hill people
14. Most Touching Post
Winner is CarrollGardened
Honorable mention to Cobble, Rob and MM. Also to DIBS for the most posts about TOUCHING!
The Mother's Day before my mother died, we were at a garden center together, and I bought her a hanging plant that she admired. She was very annoyed w ith me, but I refused to let her pay me back. A few months after my mother died, I was wearing my winter coat, which happened to have been at her house on Mother's Day weekend, and I open the front pocket and there I discover 2 crumpled $5 bills. My mother had found a way to send me home with the $10 for the plant without my knowing about it - those $5 bills were the last thing she ever gave me, and they're still in my coat pocket.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 26, 2009 4:25 PM
15. Most Number of Posts about Cats
Winner is insertsnappynamehere
Honorable mention: townhouselady
16. Best Recipe Poster
Winner is Townhouselady, by a landslide
Honorable mention: CG_ups
17. Shortest Blogicide
Winner is rob/pitbull/butterfly, by a landslide
Honorable mention: benson
18. Poster with the Best One-liners
Winner is Biff Champion, by a landslide
Honorable mention: snarkslope/ditmasnark
19. Most Pathetic Loser Usual Suspect Asshat
Winner: daveinbedstuy, by a landslide
Honorable mention to Biff Champion
20. PLUSA Most Likely to be the Last One Standing
Winner is Dirty Hipster
Honorable mention: daveinbedstuy
21. Best Karaoke Singer
Winner is Wonton
Honorable mention: infinitejester
22. Ms Congeniality
Winner is insertsnappynamehere, by a landslide
Honorable mention: cobblehiller and jessibaby
23. Mr. Congeniality
Winner is wasder
Honorable mention: etson and Biff Champion
24. Most Like their Login Name
Winner is daveinbedstuy (in bed)
Honorable mention: moreforless
25. Least Like their Login Name
Winner is Wonton, by a landslide
Honorable mention to Dirty Hipster
26. Brownstoner poster/lurker you’d most like to meet
east_new_york, 11217, What, Snark/snarkslope/ditmasnark, dittoburg, tyburg, Townhouselady, gemini10, nomi, minard lafever, brendafromflatbush, legion, bowl of dicks, Nostalgic on Park, fsrq, randi, brooklyn greene, chicken
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 7, 2009 10:36 AM
CONGRATS TO ALL THE WINNERS!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at October 7, 2009 10:40 AM
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 3:19 PM
DIBS, without using a Bloomberg terminal, is it possible to view them?
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 3:21 PM
Who gives a crap where anyone posts, and what they have to say about what they post and where? I've posted 1-2 times at the What's blog, but don't go there too often because I spend enough time screwing around here. If someone wants to post on both OT's and talk about what's happening THERE over HERE, no big deal. While that stuff pisses THL off (and I happen to like THL), I just don't care. It's kind of funny, if anything. That said, I do like the stripper picture The What posted the other day.
Posted by: East New York at October 8, 2009 3:23 PM
No, it's not Biff, as far as I can tell. Don't worry, it's not like silverdaddies where I can tell who has viewed my profile and wether you're a top or a bottom.
BTW, someone posted in the Forum that Google Streetviews have been updated and now include a number of Canadian cities.
Can't wait for them to incluse Suriwongse and Patpong in bangkok.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 3:24 PM
I'd like to share my award with CarGar - as he is always standing at the end right next to me!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 3:24 PM
No benson- no one did any as hominem attacks on you. You take everything and everyone who doesn't agree with you as an ad hominem attack. I can remember several such explosive attacks by you on other posters, including THL, BRG and Montrose. So you have no cause to whine about anything over here. On the affordable housing thread you went after Orestes, who had not said anything to you or about you.
slopefarm- it isn't what you say to me, its how you say it. If you think I'm a little excitable, perhaps everyone needs to take a good, long look at their own records as well. Lots of glass houses around here, if you catch my drift. Some of us seem more capable of overlooking their own characteristics than they are of overlooking others.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 3:26 PM
Dave, I was going to put you into a mention as well because I know you traveled and lived in parts of Asia so you know exactly the comparison of average life there and here.
Legion, I think it's laziness. I am a lazy person but you will never see me bitching as to WHY I have a studio co-op and someone has a 3 million dollar brownstone. If that's was my only goal in life, I would take out enormous loans, go through 15 years of schooling to become a surgeon, lawyer, whatever or open up a business and work 200 hours a week to get to that goal.
Biff, I consider you (Canadians) the other 5%. To me Canada is just an extension of U.S. (not meaning that in offensive way or in any political way). Also, Canada is not all that peachy because I have friends there and issues arise there as well. If you want higher expertise you have to wait for months to get appointments. If you want top notch surgeons, they don't take gov't insurance and take only cash. Look at it this way, if I had a set of skills that were irreplaceable and someone's life counted on them, why the heck would I practice in a place like Canada when I can just move to U.S. and make literally millions and millions of dollars or stay in Canada and fuck the insurance and require cash?
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 8, 2009 3:27 PM
A thread monitor would be someone w/ official powers to ban, delete, etc.; what we have is people w/ differing tastes & beliefs. The "di" in dialogue refers to there being at least two people & it can be measured or shrill. Huffs, tantrums, ad hominem exchanges & the like are often responses to counter-viewpoints. So?
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 3:28 PM
Kens, you are definitely right and I recognize the Canadian system has it's share of flaws too. I just think overall that, despite the very real concerns and problems you rightly mentioned, it results in greater access to healthcare for a much larger percentage of the population. I'll still take it, blemishes and all, over the US system.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 3:32 PM
Oh, and, in some ways, especially when it comes to financial markets, Canada is definitely an extension of the US. But in other ways, it is noticeably different.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 3:34 PM
Arkady for President! Slopefarm for Vice President!
Wait, what the hell did I just say?
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 3:35 PM
If chosen I will not run, if elected I will not serve.
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 3:37 PM
I'm organizing a Birthers Movement to investigate President Biff. I don't think he was born here. the evidence is as clear as the nose on his face.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 3:37 PM
Didn't he spring full-grown from the loins of the sleeping giant? (In 5th grade geography, Canada was always referred to as The Sleeping Giant.)
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 3:41 PM
- if elected I will not serve.
Just like the old regime.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 3:41 PM
arkady- wasn't that China? If biff is representative of Canada, they're still asleep :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 3:42 PM
Yeah, bx, I've gone a little nuts here, too. Lots of us have. I didn't mean excitable as a pejorative for either you or benson, although you guys did win the award. You guys really get into it, sometimes. I think there is a way that the words, in black and white, without facial expressions or intonations, make it easy for electronic discussions to escalate.
Posted by: slopefarm at October 8, 2009 3:42 PM
ANA Airlines(9202) has announced a promotional programme called “e-Flight” to reduce the amount of carbon dioxide expelled by its aircraft. As part of this programme it is
asking passengers to visit the lavatory before boarding. According to the CNN report of the story, “the airline estimates that if 50 per cent of passengers relieved themselves before boarding, it would reduce carbon dioxide by 42 tons a month”. Not a lot of people know that.
rob knows.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 3:42 PM
"I'd like to share my award with CarGar"
Thanks, DH. Truth be told, I voted a 3-way tie among you, me and lechacal (e.g., you & lechacal at Pete's; you, lechacal & me at Brooklyn Inn; lechacal & me at Ratifico; you & me at "Weekend at Snappy's").
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 3:43 PM
Kens,
plenty of top notch MDs here don't take insurance or only certain policies. Cash only. I think you will find that canadians are much better satisfied as a whole than US.
Posted by: Petebklyn at October 8, 2009 3:43 PM
You beat me too it, rkd. I share your platform.
Posted by: slopefarm at October 8, 2009 3:44 PM
DIBS, I saw that on Nightly News last night. I wasn't sure where Brian Williams was going when he started with, "I realize this is the dinner hour, but . . . "
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 3:44 PM
Biff you are right and I think Canada is just generally better quality of life than U.S. Problem is, for a country like ours, it's hard to mimic Canadian healthcare system because population wise and economy wise, it's a totally different beast. It's like comparing a bee hive to an ant colony.
America is a land of opportunity and you will note quickly that not many Canadians emigrate here unless they get lucrative careers or go to well known colleges here. You probably wont see a Canadian immigrant here working as a waiter, construction worker or a grocery clerk while you will see plenty of Russians, Asians and immigrants from some other countries where quality of life is not as great as here.
Can the national healthcare system work in Luxembourg or Litchenstein? Hellz to the yeah and probably work great there because it's much easier to approximate the population, give out subsidies where you have the biggest town consisting of maybe 5,000 people.
Like Legion said, healthcare system does need fixing and can be done in somewhat better ways for everyone without Nationalizing it. Will it help everyone all the time? NO, that's just not possible. There are always going to be losers and winners, That's life.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 8, 2009 3:45 PM
I think that is trend Larry Craig was trying to start..use that airport lavatory.
Posted by: Petebklyn at October 8, 2009 3:45 PM
bxgrl - Maybe the usage had changed by the time you were in school but for us it was definitely Canada & was inevitably coupled w/ "to the north" & words about natural resources - forests, hydropower, etc.
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 3:47 PM
Pete - Snort!
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 3:48 PM
Drunk Animals pics...
http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=42471
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 3:49 PM
- It's like comparing a bee hive to an ant colony.
I'm confused. Which one would be Canada and which the US?
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 3:49 PM
I think we need animated atavars because yes, that can happen. Or we'll be tacking huge disclaimers at the bottom of each post: yes I said move to Yonkers but I only meant it in a comparative way of showing how we all can find affordable housing near a great casino/racetrack. :-)
as to my award- benson and I won for best rivalry. Sort of like Capulets and Montagues. I had to share the mercurial award with 11217 which upsets me no end as he has not offered to scratch my eyes out with walnuts nor share his blonde wig. Of course I have not offered to poke his eye out with my broomstick either. (Which in my defense I did offer to do to biff yesterday- only pointing up my generous and sharing natue).
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 3:51 PM
"If chosen I will not run, if elected I will not serve."
I elect to be served, I will choose not to run.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 3:52 PM
- Drunk Animals pics...
Only two cat pics!
You're going to get hell around here for this!
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 3:52 PM
I've been painting some things in my front area for the past couple of days. It's amazing to hear chunks of cell phone conversations. Many of them are just recipe sharing (!?) but others are surreal - I've got black paint all over me from straying attention as I imagine the other side of the chat.
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 3:53 PM
Pete:
(A) One of my internists stopped taking any insurance. Now I have two internists, one in plan, and the one who takes no insurance who I see for an annual check-up and when I need a second opinion; and
II. I watched the beginning of "Outrage" the other night. Loved the Larry Craig opening!
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 3:53 PM
I've been painting some things in my front area for the past couple of days.
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 3:53 PM
This sounds very, very disturbing.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 3:54 PM
let's get down to brass tacks folks,
what we are witnessing in the USA today is a movement from above towards redistribution. The president has said as much.
now consider these facts, before we go off blaming evil capitalists and their disregard for the poor;
-the poor in america receive something like 30thousand a year in entitlements between housing, education, job training, food and health subsidies.
-poor in america means you get three meals a day, you have a 1 bedroom apartment and you only have one tv.
-poor in Sierra Leone or Equatorial New Guinea means you live in a ditch by the side of the road with no means of subsistence.
-we have an epidemic of OBESITY in America, not one of starvation. I cannot site a single case of starvation in this nation in recent history, save for mental illness.
the redistribution appeals to many people as it did to many people in Venezuela because it means basically pressing the RESET button in the game of life.
let's shuffle the board once again and see if I can come out on top.
let me tell you, the only people coming out on top will be thuggish opportunists and vermin politicians.
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 3:54 PM
"I've been painting some things in my front area for the past couple of days."
DIBS has been fronting some things in his taint area for the past couple of days.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 3:55 PM
kens- I have a really hard time thinking anything justifies watching people die for lack of care and saying "that's life."
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 3:56 PM
I'm in full agreement with Legion and I have not been drinking at lunch.
Arkady, please respond to the disturbing comment above.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 3:57 PM
I'd like to give a shout out to Bxgrl. I was able to use her awesome word ailurophile today.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 3:57 PM
You wouldn't think my front area needs several days, would you?
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 3:58 PM
Pete, you are very right on that. I again, am not comparing U.S. to Canada and maybe Canada does have a better system which is still not perfect. All I am saying is that no system is perfect and if U.S. decides to nationalize healthcare, it will be a lot of trouble for this country. There is a way to better it and maybe we can even come close to perfect healthcare system or at least improve ours and give access to most people but Nationalizing it and what the proposals are is not the way to go, in my opinion. I don't want to repeat anymore but Legion made enormous amounts of arguments that will help the system. There are smart advisers to the government, why not try those?
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 8, 2009 3:58 PM
Show us some pics, Arkady.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 3:58 PM
"You probably wont see a Canadian immigrant here working as a waiter, construction worker or a grocery clerk while you will see plenty of Russians, Asians and immigrants from some other countries where quality of life is not as great as here."
Kens, that is because it would be virtually impossible for a Canadian to legally emigrate to the US for those types of jobs. Even the most qualified of professionals have to jump through hoops, especially since 9/11 to be sponsored for a Green Card. I know all of this first hand. And most people in Canada will not and do not have to illegally come to the US to take on such positions to support themselves and their families back home when they can get the same jobs (in the fields you mentioned) with equal pay and better benefits in Canada.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 3:59 PM
(A)
II.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 3:53 PM
I don't understand your method here.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 4:00 PM
LOL Arkady!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 4:00 PM
My name got named but I still don't know if thats a good or bad thing. I suppose any publicity...
Posted by: dittoburg at October 8, 2009 4:01 PM
Thank you for saying "pics", dibs. I don't have a micro lens.
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 4:01 PM
BJ, I explained my the madness to my method earlier this week, and I don't like to repeat myself.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 4:01 PM
BJ, I explained my the madness to my method earlier this week, and I don't like to repeat myself.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 4:01 PM
- You wouldn't think my front area needs several days, would you?
Depands what you're paining.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 4:02 PM
Legion;
You're the man!
Kens:
hats off to you too! You win my best rant award!
Posted by: benson at October 8, 2009 4:03 PM
CarGar, I heard you the first time!!
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 4:04 PM
arkady, maybe you need to see what the judys do with their front area.
Posted by: DeLepp at October 8, 2009 4:05 PM
Benson, honestly, you take things that aren't even directed to you personally, and then complain that people are making ad hominem attacks. I said the other day I wasn't going to debate politics, because it served no purpose, and no one was going to change their minds. I fail to see how that is either hall monitoring, or even more absurd, some kind of personal attack on you, or anyone else. It was only my voiced personal opinion to not want to engage in your Obama bashing. Today in the housing thread, you found yourself outnumbered in the thread, although Joe is closer to you on point than others, and instead of debating points, which was going on pretty civilly, you get all in a huff over imagined personal slights and huff off to the What's blog to complain that we were being politically correct.
I don't care if you disagree with me. I don't care if you agree with me. I enjoy debating with anyone, and having the opportunity to express my opinions, and stating my case. I happen to think I do it decently well. For some reason, it really bothers you that other people agree with me, and yes, you do take that personally. That is your issue, not mine. If it floats your boat to think that we have hall monitors, or to call bxgrl, myself and others "sandy vaginas", and yuk it up with your new buddy, the What, on his little blog, go right ahead. You might want to remember that that is the same guy who said some pretty personal and unflattering things to you in the not so distant past. It's nice to see that you can forgive and forget, and bond over your mutual hatred of Brownstoner, preservationists, and those of us that like both him and the blog, and don't plan on doing anything different in the future.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at October 8, 2009 4:05 PM
bxgrl, sorry no one HAS to die. People here get medical care being in Jail for goodness sakes. Care is provided to anyone. If you are dying, and can't take care of your illness with you self employment, for goodness sakes, STOP doing anything for a living, get welfare and medicare and go get help. No one is stopping you. No one told you to be self employed. There are loads of government programs to help.
Sorry but I write a bunch, yet you pick at one last couple of words that I wrote. Are some people just generally down on luck and unfortunate? Yes. Do we need to nationalize healthcare for those and not look at other financial options? NO.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 8, 2009 4:07 PM
I don't see it that way Legion. Stats I have read has shown greater redistribution of wealth to the top. Not the other way around
Posted by: Petebklyn at October 8, 2009 4:07 PM
Biff, presenting our re-election logo in Latin:
"Non ut ministret sed ut sibi ministretur"
(Translation: Not to serve but to be served)
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 4:07 PM
Thanks, THL. I love that word.
Legion- I agree, to be poor in this country is not the same as being poor in Sierra Leone. But poverty in this country is no joke and hardly the well fed picture you are painting. I don't see how having a safety net for basic and humane needs is a redistribution of wealth. I do think that so long as we are invested in the idea of competition and not cooperation, we are undercutting ourselves as a country. When the words "greater good" have no meaning, I don't see much hope for us.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 4:09 PM
Judy & Judi don't resemble me in my front area.
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 4:09 PM
biff,
I see it this way,
The Mexican government has alot to answer for to it's people.
Let me tell you, If I was Mexican, I would be a revolutionary. I would not settle for being marginalized in my own nation and forced to seek a life elsewhere.
mexico has plenty of money and resources.
They are simply corrupt and don't give a damn about their poor.
as far as Canada, I know Canada is doing well with it's resources but is facing increasing pressures from unchecked immigration. You will be facing some tough questions in the next decade as well.
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 4:09 PM
CG-
re: Outrage - I think the docu maker of this is one that recently said he was convinced that LT Gov of SC is one of the closet #'s....and that is partially why some reluctance on many in SC to dump their philandering gov...because then they'd end up with a gay one.
Posted by: Petebklyn at October 8, 2009 4:09 PM
Redistribution of wealth??? I think we need some definitions here.
First of all, I don't think anyone will disagree that when the government is involved, it is the least efficient system imaginable. There have been many luminaries quoted on this, not fanbatics like Rush Limbaugh and Anne Coulter but the Founding Fathers...Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin FRanklin and that ilk.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 4:13 PM
Montrose;
I've said my peace. I have my reasons for posting what I did, but I'm not going to get into it here. Some folks on this site know of what I speak.
Peace to all.
Posted by: benson at October 8, 2009 4:13 PM
Interesting Pete. (I still need to figure out what new show has the poster with the really hot guy on it.)
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 4:14 PM
Kens- I was previously and for quite some time EMPLOYED. Becoming unemployed and still trying to find work and remain a productive member of society ought to be earning me kudos from you. I'm sure the second I go on wlefare you'll be among those complaining about welfare queens.
By the way, you may want to take a look at some of the new reports coming out about health care reform before you condemn it out of hand. You say no one has to die, but actually many are.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 4:15 PM
Legion, I partially agree with your last point although the profile of immigrants to Canada is far different in terms of education, experience, wealth, profession, etc. I'm not saying they are better or worse as a people, I'm saying they typically are experienced professionals who have emigrated there legally (many from East Asia). If they don't have a job they are going to, they also can come with tons of money they inject into the economy through opening businesses (such as what happened with the enormous influx of wealthy Chinese prior to 1998). Anyway, my point was simply to point out to Kens the reason Canadians do not typically illegally emigrate to the US for service / construction type jobs.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 4:17 PM
1997, Biff.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 4:20 PM
"let me tell you, the only people coming out on top will be thuggish opportunists and vermin politicians."
What a rosy outlook.
Posted by: East New York at October 8, 2009 4:20 PM
Our own Charles Rangel, case in point.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 4:22 PM
DIBS, last I checked 1997 is "prior to 1998"
:-)
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 4:24 PM
^^^^^^^
But yes, it was 1997 when Hong Kong was handed over to Chinese control.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 4:24 PM
I saw the latest on Charlie Rangel last night on CNN, which went on to say he still has the support of Nancy Pelosi. Why do you suppose she's standing by him?
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 4:25 PM
Although you may have an Asian wife, I have more hands on experience with all things Asian.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 4:26 PM
God, I love when guys talk smartly.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 4:26 PM
CGar, "Politics make strange bedfellows." Theodore T Hodge
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 4:27 PM
"Kens- I was previously and for quite some time EMPLOYED. Becoming unemployed and still trying to find work and remain a productive member of society ought to be earning me kudos from you. I'm sure the second I go on welfare you'll be among those complaining about welfare queens."
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 4:15 PM
bxgrl, I never bitched about welfare queens, ever. You mistaking me for Rob. This is also why people have beef with you. I never engaged you in anything and here you are pointing fingers and telling me who I am going to complain about and not. Thanks for shoving words down my throat.
"By the way, you may want to take a look at some of the new reports coming out about health care reform before you condemn it out of hand. You say no one has to die, but actually many are."
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 4:15 PM
I am too busy working, making life for myself, my family, supporting (emotionally and physically, not monetarily) my aging parents and living in the land of opportunity than looking at healthcare reports. I am not much of a philosopher, writer or conversationalist. I know what I have to do to succeed in this country and I am too busy doing that. In Russia, even if you worked harder than anyone, didn't mean that you went far.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 8, 2009 4:29 PM
legion- sadly I think those people are already on top.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 4:31 PM
I am NOT a Nancy Pelosi fan . . . [Ducks for cover] . . . but I just don't see what's in it for her (and she's always paying careful attention to what's in it for her) to stand by Rangel at this point. I used to like Charlie, and I'm the first to argue for innocent until proven guilty, but the near daily revelations of his improprieties are astounding. $1,100 undeclared dollars a night to rent his place in the Dominican Republic! A night?!
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 4:32 PM
There seems to be some consensus of opinion in much of this country, not just here on this site, that there are vast amounts of poor people lazily partying hardy on our dime, while the rest of us work like dogs to allow them to do that. While being poor here is nothing like being poor in Haiti, it still is no bed or roses, or an all night kegger. People do starve here, I'm sorry, but they do. They also freeze to death, die of heat prostration, malnutrition, and from rat bites. They suffer from poor nutrition, die early from high blood pressure and diabetes and stroke, and have third world like birth mortality rates. They live in neighborhoods we zoom by in our cars so we don't have to see them, and we ignore them on our streets. They live in mountain shacks without electricity, in rusting trailers and in sweltering shotgun shacks. They are wailing on tv when their children are shot going to the store, and are the criminals doing the perp walk for mugging 101 year old ladies. For all of the welfare cheese, subsidized housing, medicaid and afterschool programs we have, we don't come anywhere near solving their problems or making their lives much better. We can't seem to solve poverty.
In comparison, we, who are educated, come from comfortable backgrounds, or have risen on the strength of our resolve and determination, are here thinking that it's a party getting all of those gobment freebies, well, think again. Yeah, there are the UNdeserving poor who make the news, and give charity a bad name, but there are a whole lot more who need every cent of aid this government and private sector give, and so so much more, just to exist. And existing ain't no party for them.
That's my rant for the day.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at October 8, 2009 4:32 PM
"Yeah, there are the UNdeserving poor who make the news, and give charity a bad name, but there are a whole lot more who need every cent of aid this government and private sector give, and so so much more, just to exist."
Worth repeating.
Posted by: East New York at October 8, 2009 4:35 PM
That's a pretty well worded and concise rant. You also happen to be right. We shouldn't let the bad apples dictate how we treat the bunch.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 4:37 PM
Kens- touchy much? That was a generalized statement and not pointing fingers. I was replying to your comments on health care and you telling me to go on welfare. After your rant about people in this country wanting entitlements? You make pronouncements about about how health care will ruin the country and I mention there are new reports out about how it can save money and your response is to go thermonuclear?
Now you want to make it personal by telling me how everyone has a problem with me? Fine. You aren't the only one with stress. (Hey slopefarm- what was that excitable thing?)
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 4:38 PM
MM I agree with you 100%. You know I admire you to no end and I don't mind paying a single penny of my taxes to help the poor and unfortunate. Without the help of taxpayers/charities, I wouldn't be able to survive in this country since my family got some very small assistance when we got here for my mom to take English courses and get certified in her field. Bloomberg increased my co-op taxes by 33% this year and I am going to pay more and I HOPE that money goes to programs to help the communities and unfortunate or keep the street clean, keep crime down, etc. I am just saying that when you private things or have tort reform, you can usually achieve much more without gov't intervention. I am glad that people are passionate about politics even though I am regrettably not, because that's what makes this country great. People would revolt if we got a Stalin or Putin in the throne.
I work hard, pay taxes, donate a bunch of money for things I am passionate about and make sure I can first provide for my future family and myself in terms of the basic needs for survival and even more luxury things. I do have a car but if I had to give it up to pay for my increased medical insurance, so be it. I wouldn't expect the gov't to intervene and make insurance nationalized just so I can have insurance AND a car. My rant is over.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 8, 2009 4:43 PM
brxgrl,
touche.
the thuggish and opportunist are on top in many ways today, but as it stands, every single one of us still has a shot at achieving something or nothing if that is the goal.
What I'm basically saying is that a dependent population is a complacent and subservient and doomed population.
what government expansion offers is all the free cheese you can eat and your teeth pulled at the appropriate time.
as I've stated before;
a crushing mediocrity.
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 4:45 PM
600?
Posted by: Petebklyn at October 8, 2009 4:47 PM
Kens- touchy much?
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 4:38 PM
Ha ha. Pot. Kettle. Black.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 8, 2009 4:47 PM
Kens, fyi, your last rant got post #600.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 4:48 PM
it's a cultural divide that can't be bridged without living it. what Kens said is very true from a hungry-for-better-living immigrants who have that mindset since the day they arrived in this country. Not every immigrant has that mindset or the conviction to go make it happen. But for the ones with that mindset, it's very tough for them to see or accept how someone can't make life better than be at mercy of material assistance from govt or private entities. We simply see too many oppties and not big enough obstacles to prevent us from making life pretty good in this country.
not saying this view can be transplanted to folks here in poor condition or if it's the right view for them but this is simply the view for many of us immigrants who have very little at our home countries and are amazed at the oppties here.
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 4:49 PM
Kens touché much!
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 4:50 PM
Legion- I like to think you're right re having a shot at making something of your life. I worry too that this country is more about mediocrity than achievement and I also wonder if its n=just that we are in that part of the historical cycle. We've been so wealthy for so long, who knows.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 4:50 PM
Oh Legion and MM, I can only wish I could express myself in words as well as you two do.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 8, 2009 4:51 PM
Can I ask a question about the 'Awards'?
Why wasn't there a category for 'Funniest Poster'?
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 4:51 PM
Just had some junior mints, not as good as a cocktail but refreshing none the less.
Did anyone see modern family last night, the colombian kid is a howl.
Posted by: DeLepp at October 8, 2009 4:53 PM
I'm fine with nationalized healthcare here, and I'll help pay for it. And as my parents back home age, they get sick and their income dwindles, I thank God whom I don't believe in that they live in a country with excellent nationalized healthcare.
Posted by: dittoburg at October 8, 2009 4:54 PM
Yey, 600 for me! I was waiting for Snappy to come and snap that one right out of my hands.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 8, 2009 4:54 PM
m4l- There used to be much more of that in this country- the whole pull yourself up by your own bootstraps thing. I'm first generation and I was raised to believe in hard work and doing for yourself. Amazing to be told by an immigrant to go on welfare. After he rants about that very thing.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 4:55 PM
I think you both fundamentally agree on the complacency issue. Whether laziness is or is not an approprite adjective as well is applicable to some, many but not all.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 4:56 PM
DeLepp I freakin' missed it cause of the Home repair classes that are on freakin Wednesday nights. I am too cheap to get DVR. Modern Family and Cougartown and great.
Can you catch them online somewhere or are there reruns at anytime during the week?
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 8, 2009 4:57 PM
bxgrl, I said that if you are in a DYING condition and can't afford healthcare.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 8, 2009 4:58 PM
I think you can catch them on the abc website. It's where I used to catch ugly betty.
Posted by: DeLepp at October 8, 2009 4:59 PM
DeLepp, Modern Family is one of the funniest shows on TV right now. I love that little boy!
Best line ever, "I was in a plane accident!"
I had to rewind because I was laughing so hard when he said that I missed the next 7 minutes of conversation!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 5:00 PM
Hey, DeLepp! jester and I are road-testing Henry Public around 8:30 if you feel like joining us. It's been weeks since I've stumbled out of a bar with you.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 5:01 PM
Cool! Thanks DeLepp. Great show.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 8, 2009 5:01 PM
"People do starve here"
Really? Can someone show some statistics on this?
Posted by: benson at October 8, 2009 5:01 PM
Bxgrl, us immigrants do the welfare path too. we smart enough to utilize both tracks. if we cant improve enough not need welfare, we divert all assets elsewhere and pretend to be dirt poor to get welfare. Kens' point was if things got that bad where serious health issues came about, dont be stupid with your life but rather do what it takes to get the health taken care of - ie pretend to be dirt poor and get the medicare to get the health svc. Not saying that's right or wrong but I agree if those are some of the choices to consider, I would do what it takes to save my ass then ponder later if actions was righteous or not
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 5:02 PM
Kens- if I'm dying, healthcare is too late
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 5:02 PM
Kens they have them on Hulu.com. Here's last nights:
http://tinyurl.com/yhuxsnd
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 5:03 PM
You know what he means, bxgrl. Don't be so literal.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 5:05 PM
They also die here - even with insurance. Nataline Sarkisian was denied a liver transplant by Cigna because they said it was "experimental." She died at age 17. Liver transplants are hardly experimental.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 5:06 PM
BTW, that was an open invite to everyone. I'm a graduate of the Kumbaya School of Inclusion.
Kens, stop by Henry Public for a late drink if you're up for it.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 5:06 PM
Kens' point was if things got that bad where serious health issues came about, dont be stupid with your life but rather do what it takes to get the health taken care of - ie pretend to be dirt poor and get the medicare to get the health svc. Not saying that's right or wrong but I agree if those are some of the choices to consider, I would do what it takes to save my ass then ponder later if actions was righteous or not
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 5:02 PM
100% correct on all the facts. Not sure if I would kill someone or do something illegal but if it really meant that it would be my kids or them, it would be them, just like if it meant my kids or myself, it would be myself.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 8, 2009 5:07 PM
I love chunky peanut butter
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 5:07 PM
thl, that was a gem. Knew it was going to happen and it was a riot al the same.
c-gar, may join, need to hit the gym first. Nothing like a drink after a work out, should be a cheap night!
Posted by: DeLepp at October 8, 2009 5:07 PM
hey listen,
honestly you folks are all great and I'm glad we are all in this together as americans.
I hope I'm not coming off as thinking I have all the answers.
I'm just expressing an honest opinion based on my own experiences. everyone's experience is different, I understand. but we also have history as a guide. and I hope our leaders are paying attention.
Posted by: Legion at October 8, 2009 5:08 PM
I hate chunky peanut butter.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 5:08 PM
THL, love you!!!!!!
Dave, Thanks for understanding my gobbled up writing.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 8, 2009 5:09 PM
dibs- I was joking. jeez.
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 5:09 PM
Benson, You can get of the statistics you're looking for at Feeding America.
http://feedingamerica.org/faces-of-hunger/hunger-101.aspx
I've done a lot of fund raising with them and yes, it's true there are many people in America that are Mal or Undernourished.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 5:09 PM
Why can't you get Big Bang Theory episodes? Not on CBS nor Hulu. Any other thoughts?
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 5:10 PM
I switch both ways: chunky or creamy.
Posted by: benson at October 8, 2009 5:11 PM
F U Dave. no homo
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 5:11 PM
Does that have something to do with your "front area", Arkady?
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 5:12 PM
I love chunky peanut butter
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 5:07 PM
you ARE chunky peanut butter. everytime I see you, I have urge to go to corner bodega and get me some slices of wonder bread
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 5:12 PM
Legion, you HAVE to come out for drinks with us one night.
I am outta here. I hope I'll be able to show up to see all of you Asshats next Thursday.
CGar, I wont be able to make it tonight, unfortunately.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 8, 2009 5:12 PM
dh, I know a few FUs. Which one are you referring to???
There's also a Fu Chow restaurant across from Saraghina.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 8, 2009 5:13 PM
benson, you still haven't answered my earlier question - tape or glove?
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 5:13 PM
They have them on Itunes Arkady but I call bullshit on that. I am not paying for something that airs for free.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 5:14 PM
Eyes only, dibs.
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 5:14 PM
"Really? Can someone show some statistics on this?"
http://bit.ly/zig4P
http://bit.ly/qlh3j
http://bit.ly/8crDv
http://bit.ly/2RggWp
http://bit.ly/11czV7
http://bit.ly/2Uo1bB
Posted by: East New York at October 8, 2009 5:15 PM
Cripes almighty! I leave for a few hours and look what I miss?!
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 5:15 PM
Yeah, people starve in this country. Do I have statistics that cover every emaciated corpse found in the US, no, I don't. Partly because no one really wants to keep track of that in the wealthiest country in the world. But there are plenty of stats available on malnutrition, which directly leads to death, in the form of heart conditions, diabetes, infant mortalities, and a host of other preventable medical ailments.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at October 8, 2009 5:15 PM
- I switch both ways: chunky or creamy.
The story of my sex life.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 5:15 PM
Agree 100%, THL - why I don't have cable. (or any other form of t.v. - yet.)
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 5:17 PM
Arkady, you still don't have your antenna working? What's the problem? Want me to come over next week sometime and attempt to help?
Posted by: Kensingtonian at October 8, 2009 5:17 PM
haha m4l i am what i eat!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 5:18 PM
"I switch both ways: chunky or creamy."
I go both ways too. Depends on my mood.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 5:18 PM
I do Arkady but it's insanely overpriced and while it pains me to feed the beast I'm a TV junkie.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 5:20 PM
Thanks, Kens, but I have to order the new antenna first - just haven't done it. But I may take you up on the offer when I do get one.
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 5:23 PM
THL - Paperbackswap has saved me. It's why I had to drop out of the casting discussion - don't know who 2/3 of the people are.
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 5:24 PM
Agree 100%, THL - why I don't have cable. (or any other form of t.v. - yet.)
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 5:17 PM
your procrastinating on this Antenna is as bad as me with renovating my crown heights place
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 5:27 PM
Jeez, real linoleum + installation is expensive.
$7,000 to $10,000 for two kitchens, two microscopic baths, and a mudroom.
Just thought you'd all want to know that.
I guess we're gonna have to be normal and order vinyl from Home Depot or wherever, where I think it costs about 3 cents, considering that Bushwick is practically paved in it.
Posted by: mopar at October 8, 2009 5:27 PM
Me and the man were just at Duanne Reade the other night waiting to get a refill on my pre-nat vitamins and he was browsing in the paperback section. $10 for a paperback. Big type, short chapter, quick read book.
I said, they're on crack. You need to get a library card! We have a room in our house that has bookcases bursting at the seams. We love reading. These days though? the pricing is out of control.
I also can't do the kindle thing. I spend enough time at a screen I like the feel and smell of a book in my hands.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 5:29 PM
mopar, focus focus please. at this rate, you'll blow up the $11/sq ft renov budget
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 5:29 PM
Ok, here comes the hearthless, grouchy republican again.
I have to quote FSRG here: words matter, and the word "starve" is an extreme one. It has a quite different meaning from mal-nourished or under-nourished.
ENY: you provided links to news stories of negligent parents wherein the kid starved. I think that is a far cry from starvation due to economic distress. One of these kids lived in the Bronx, where every single day of the year free lunches are served in the local public school.
THL: I know I'm going to take alot of heat for this, but I am not convinced by literature from charitable organizations, as they are self-serving. Moreover, I think it doesn't talk about "starving" people, it talks about undernourished people.
MM: I really wish you would stop implying that this is an uncaring country. As I write this trivial message, there are men and women dying in the service, and they get little gain out of it. Whether or not you agree with the war, the fact is that these people volunteered for this service, to fight for freedom at risk of their own life, and we're talking about over a million folks. Where the hell are other countries when it comes to doing the heavy lifting? As Kens said, this is the greatest country in the whole damn world.
This is exactly what I mean: words from certain posters are taken as gospel, in which they try to impugn the motives of those who simply have a different philospohy.
Posted by: benson at October 8, 2009 5:31 PM
Actually, if Judi Davis wants to play both Arkady and me, that'd be OK with me. I like Judi Davis.
Posted by: mopar at October 8, 2009 5:34 PM
More4Less, until this moment at the linoleum store, we were doing really good!!!! The electrical came in at less than estimated, and everyone else we've tried to hire has told us the job is too small for them and to do it ourselves.
Posted by: mopar at October 8, 2009 5:36 PM
Can we discuss Title IX? Anyone know of a wealthy relative or friend who gave away all their assets in anticipation of needing or wanting Title IX to pay for nursing home care a few years down the road. I believe the look-back period has been extended from 3 to 5 years, perhaps longer. I'm not saying I condone it, though I was almost a beneficiary of a relative's largesse once - almost, but we went the reverse mortgage route instead.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 5:37 PM
THL - Try PaperBackSwap.com. You list your books by isbn & request books by author or title. Person sends you a book - free. When someone requests one of yours, you pay the postage. The site does all the tallies & you click on the request & it tells you how much postage to put on & then you print out the label. You can buy postage on the site or put stamps on. It's really wonderful.
Mopar - Real lino is incredibly expensive - most people use a small bit as an area rug nowadays. Resilient vinyl flooring in sheet goods is very good & replicates lino quite well.
Posted by: Arkady at October 8, 2009 5:38 PM
CG;
It used to be three years, now it's five. Go to an eldercare lawyer, and he'll help you set up the proper trust.
You don't need to apologize for trying to hold on to your own money.
Posted by: benson at October 8, 2009 5:40 PM
more debating and less preaching / recruiting please. I don't like seeing good people fighting at personal level for no reason.
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 5:42 PM
Benson those statistics they quote come from the US Census Bureau and the USDA. So I'm going to assume that even though you asks for statistics you didn't really want them. You were just hoping they couldn't be produced.
Also your bit about the military is great although I find your use of it to deflect from the current topic a little distasteful.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 5:43 PM
"this is the greatest country in the whole damn world."
And with that, we are brought full circle. Here is Ray Charles doing what has been called the definitive version of America the Beautiful:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghz4_kikLkE
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 5:44 PM
Biff, is there a TV in that VIP area at Union where we might be able to plug in the Wii so some of the PLUSA's can settle the score via an unfriendly boxing match?
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 5:47 PM
M4L;
Well if that is what you want, then perhaps you talk to people who make statements like:
"There seems to be some consensus of opinion in much of this country, not just here on this site, that there are vast amounts of poor people lazily partying hardy on our dime"
Where did anyone on this site make that statement?
Posted by: benson at October 8, 2009 5:47 PM
M4L, where I come from, scores are not settled via video games. We put on our skates and grab a stick and battle it out on the ice.
Posted by: Biff Champion at October 8, 2009 5:50 PM
But, benson, I'm not THAT old, LOL!!
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 5:50 PM
- an unfriendly boxing match?
I'd like to knock out a few people myself.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 5:51 PM
biff, indeed, why they chose kate smith's "god bless america" over "America the Beautiful" at the 7th inning stretch is beyond me.
did anyone see the usopen where david archuletta sang america the beautiful? He changed the words. Why oh why do entertainers feel the need to personalize a perfectly wonderful song.
Guess I got my rotd in.
Posted by: DeLepp at October 8, 2009 5:51 PM
"ENY: you provided links to news stories of negligent parents wherein the kid starved. I think that is a far cry from starvation due to economic distress."
Benson, if you take a closer look into those stories, several of the people involved were in distressed circumstances, which undoubtedly contributed to the outcome. You're a good guy, but I think you're dead wrong on this. There are people who starve in America.
Posted by: East New York at October 8, 2009 5:52 PM
"I also can't do the kindle thing. I spend enough time at a screen I like the feel and smell of a book in my hands."
THL, I love books and will keep buying them (though $10 for a paperback seems high), but I'm about to go Kindle. Just saw what you can do with the New York Times on the Kindle - including your own My Clippings folder(s) - and I gotta say I'm tired of the Times and Times' clippings cluttering up my apartment. It's also nice for travel - you can take up to 1,500 books with you at any given time since you never know what you'll be in the mood to read on the beach.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 5:53 PM
Benson, maybe my word selection is not the best but my point is debate crosses over the preaching / recruiting when people try too hard to convince the counterparty to agree with his/her view point and that's how things can get personal unnecessarily.
each throw out his/her best punches then hope the audience sides with them.
I usual have my say and I don't necessarily need or wait for active confirmation that people agree with me. I ain't vying for votes for office or something.
you, MM, bxgrl are good people in my eyes and when the debates get personal, it's sad for me to see it
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 5:53 PM
You can't start thinking about these things too soon, CGar! [ducking...oh crap, he knows where I live! ; ) ]
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 5:54 PM
Benson, nowhere did I state, imply, suggest, or otherwise say that this is an uncaring country, or impugn anyone's motives. Once again, you put words in my mouth in order to make what I write in black and white seem wrong. Why bring up soldiers fighting in the war? That has nothing to do with anything we've been talking about, and is just flag waving for the sake of trying to belittle my point.
I'm sure those who are mal and undernourished would find little difference between their condition and starving. Since both of those conditions generally lead to an early death, or a miserable life, I hardly think it worthy of a debating point upon which to score on.
This is the greatest country in the world. However, like any country or any human enterprise, it is not perfect. Someone who really loves this country should be free to express their opinion, and be able to find ways to make it even better for everyone. That is what we are supposedly fighting for, is it not?
Posted by: Montrose Morris at October 8, 2009 5:54 PM
Apropos of nothing, there's a really grouchy secretary at work who looks EXACTLY like Mother Goose from the "Mother Goose & Grimm" comic strip.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 5:55 PM
oh benson, I just wish we were all as smart as you think you are. And had ALL the answers. : P
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 5:56 PM
"You can't start thinking about these things too soon, CGar!"
And you would know, Cobble, so just let me know which eldercare lawyer you're using! ; ) [I'd duck but I'm so short I'm practically on the ground already]
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 5:57 PM
THL;
I looked at those statistics, and I remain in my stand. It does not use the word "starve", it uses the word "food insecurity", whatever that means.
Furthermore, if you really want to get into it, their main metric seems to be income/poverty levels, and that just reinforces my point. Whenever the government measures income/poverty levels, they always do so WITHOUT including government aid, such as welfare, foodstamps, etc. This is a fact. Anyone doubt it, I invite them to prove me wrong.
Look, I'm not saying that there aren't people hurting out there, and that they don't need help. If someone wants to appeal to my better angels to help out, let them do so. I'm not a bad guy, despite appearances (:-). However, what I don't appreciate is an appeal that suggests that if I don't agree with the pitch, or think that there is a better way, well, then I'm heartless, or morally deficient.
Posted by: benson at October 8, 2009 5:58 PM
[ducking...oh crap, he knows where I live! ; ) ]
Yep, he's right outside. Check the deck.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 5:58 PM
Well - on the season finale of "entourage" matt damon had some pretty compelling stats about children who starve in america. not sure how factual they were though
Posted by: dirty_hipster at October 8, 2009 5:59 PM
Touche, CGar, touche!
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 6:01 PM
"oh benson, I just wish we were all as smart as you think you are. And had ALL the answers. : P"
Keep practicing, you'll get there! :-)
Posted by: benson at October 8, 2009 6:01 PM
"Why oh why do entertainers feel the need to personalize a perfectly wonderful song."
DeLepp, I totally agree with you. There are also those who don't change the words but re-interpret to an extreme - Roseanne and the National Anthem anyone?
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 6:02 PM
I just locked the doors to the deck, so unless he tries to squeeze in next to the air conditioner, I think I'm safe!
On a similar note, I thought I put the neighbors kitty out before I left today...but she was in her spot when I walked in this evening!!...very Twilight Zone....
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 6:03 PM
save some fighting for tomorrow. later.
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 6:04 PM
700?
Posted by: more4less at October 8, 2009 6:05 PM
"I just locked the doors to the deck . . . I thought I put the neighbors kitty out before ...but she was in her spot"
Cobble, you've turned me into Fred Flintstone out here on the deck, banging on the door to the house!! ("Some day, maybe Fred will win the fight. Then that cat will stay out for the night . . . ")
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 6:06 PM
Food Insecure is the similar to being financially insecure. Sometimes they can provide food for themselves/family other times not. Leading to malnutrition.
"Furthermore, if you really want to get into it, their main metric seems to be income/poverty levels, and that just reinforces my point. Whenever the government measures income/poverty levels, they always do so WITHOUT including government aid, such as welfare, foodstamps, etc. This is a fact. Anyone doubt it, I invite them to prove me wrong."
Actually they do quote those statistics. You can find it in the section headed: Use of Emergency Food Assistance and Federal Food Assistance Programs
"However, what I don't appreciate is an appeal that suggests that if I don't agree with the pitch, or think that there is a better way, well, then I'm heartless, or morally deficient."
Your words not mine. Guilty conscience?
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 6:06 PM
Cobble- I saw him with a screwdriver and an axe. Be careful. (Is your neighbor Schroedinger)?
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 6:07 PM
"There seems to be some consensus of opinion in much of this country, not just here on this site, that there are vast amounts of poor people lazily partying hardy on our dime"
Where did anyone on this site make that statement?
It is said, and implied just about every time rent control, housing lotteries, affordable housing, and any kind of program or idea to house, doctor, or feed lower income people is mentioned on this site. Would that the search feature could bring up all of the instances. You would just have to punch in the word "unfair" as whined by so many. And, believe it or not, I read and see a whole lot of things that are not on Brownstoner, hence the "much of this country" part. I know you are wanting chapter and verse. I'll provide when you actually answer some of my real points in a debate, instead of trying to deflect with flag waving or by simply changing the subject or accusing someone of attacking you personally.
I think we've flogged this to death. Good evening everyone.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at October 8, 2009 6:07 PM
700!?
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 6:08 PM
- save some fighting for tomorrow.
Okay, I'm going to ask since he's gone.
What's up with him wanting the fighting around here?
Posted by: brownjokester at October 8, 2009 6:08 PM
Arkady, I wonder if we could get the five rooms done in vinyl for no more than $1,000. It's 328 square feet. I am sad, however.
Posted by: mopar at October 8, 2009 6:10 PM
THL;
I think you should know more about me before you go there. Some of the folks who come to the meet-ups can tell you more about my personal circumstances. E-mail them.
Good night all!
Posted by: benson at October 8, 2009 6:11 PM
darn it.
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 6:14 PM
700? And I'm out of here!
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 6:14 PM
""oh benson, I just wish we were all as smart as you think you are. And had ALL the answers. : P"
Keep practicing, you'll get there! :-)
Posted by: benson at October 8, 2009 6:01 PM"
THL, MM- he was right! practice makes perfect. Great responses
Posted by: bxgrl at October 8, 2009 6:14 PM
Benson, I guess the point is you asked for statistics and there they are. No personal attack, no deflection from the facts. Just real data from reputable sources.
Digest them, discredit them, whatever you want. It has nothing to do with your circumstances of which I have no interest and serve no relevance to the hunger topic. Remember we're trying to keep this non-personal after all.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 6:15 PM
It's a sickness, brownjokester.
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 6:15 PM
Good night everyone!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 8, 2009 6:16 PM
Nite, THL!
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 6:17 PM
And I managed to sneak back into the house when Cobble popped out onto the deck for a minute. Phew. That was closed. Almost ruined a perfectly good screwdriver and axe.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 6:17 PM
OK, now you're scaring me!
Posted by: cobblehiller at October 8, 2009 6:19 PM
"Touche, CGar, touche"
Cobble, you of ALL people should know it's "tuchas"!
Now I'm really out of here.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 8, 2009 6:37 PM
Everyone:
Made my daily check-in at Brownstoner at a cafe table far from NY and found myself totally absorbed in the OT -- so much so that I continued reading into the street, where it's raining, forcing me into a galleria.
I must look very strange leaning against a shop window pecking this out, but I just have to say "thanks" for the entertaining and informative thread. (The casting of Brownstoners was terrific. But who'll direct? John Waters?)
Regards from the Brooklyn Diaspora,
Nostalgic on Park Avenue
Posted by: NOP at October 8, 2009 11:36 PM
Hi NOP,
I guess you're not OP today then. Glad you enjoyed but I can't see to devoting my encroaching senior insomnia to reading the unreal number of comments above. What I read of it, it seems to be 95% drivel, Rob.
Hi Bxgirl!
David, you're too old to write things like "STFU". Arrested development?
Biff, no earful, sorry.
Arkady, when is the next gathering? I have a right mind to come to one of these things.
The cabdriver who brought me home tonight was very nice--that was the second taxi. The first car I got in smelled of vomit and air-freshener. I said I was sorry and hopped out. It was ooguey. Felt sorry for the guy.
Pretty amazing how much heavy drinking and throwing up there is in Manhattan from Thursday night onward. I see some very sad scenes of drunk kids stumbling around. A couple of weeks ago a young man "walking alone" lurched and zigzagged back-and-forth actually slamming into trees, cars. It was terrible.
Feh.
Nighty night, All!
Posted by: BrooklynGreene at October 9, 2009 2:33 AM
Good night!
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