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October 15, 2009
House of the Day: 295 Pacific Street Revisited
295 Pacific Street was on the market for a month last January, during which time it was featured as a House of the Day. Despite the Boerum Hill location, the 14-foot-wide house did not find a receptive audience for its $1,899,000 asking price and the listing was pulled. It just re-emerged this week with a new, more market-friendly price tag of $1,595,000. Think it'll fly?
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House of the Day: 295 Pacific Street [Brownstoner]
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I'm willing to pay more if the dog comes with the house.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 15, 2009 1:19 PM
Nice dog.
Posted by: East New York at October 15, 2009 1:19 PM
Worst Floor Plan I've seen.
- In the rental, you enter into the bedroom.
- Parlor floor has a toilet tucked behind the stair but no sink
- No Bathroom on the third floor.
- Bathroom on fourth floor is bigger than the bedroom.
14' wide and the price is too high STILL!!
Posted by: brownjokester at October 15, 2009 1:24 PM
houses don't usually fly, but this will sell close to new ask.
Posted by: antidope at October 15, 2009 1:24 PM
I'd like a busier kitchen.
Seriously, it has the right layout with rental on the garden level. I'm digging the sunroom off the back of the kitchen.
Not so much that third floor but it has great potential. With the bathroom above on the 4th floor it's be an easy job to install an ensuite master bath converting that living room into a master bedroom. There's already a "reception room" that I'm sure can be the formal living room and then make the back room on the third floor the TV room.
D
So all this place needds is a partially renovated kitchen (the left side looks fine) and an additional bathroom.
I'd like to see it but I think the narrow width is Ok because it's a center stair.
$1.2 MM is about right, I'd say.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 15, 2009 1:26 PM
Holy Cow, that kitchen does not read well in the photo. Might feel cozily cluttered in life (?), but no good in the photo. Also, cannot get a sense of the parlor floor from the photos.
Posted by: Nomi at October 15, 2009 1:27 PM
antidope, I usually agree with you, but not on this one. I totally agree with BJ's comments on the layout, and I'm also not wild about the finishes, especially the kitchen and bathrooms (which, yes, I know can be redone). I really wanted to like this one.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 15, 2009 1:30 PM
I think this house is adorably charming.
1.3 Should do the trick in my guesstimation.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 15, 2009 1:30 PM
antidope, if this can sell close to the 1.6M ask, I would be amazed and impressed. how about a real friendly wager - ie $5, free drink etc?
Posted by: more4less at October 15, 2009 1:30 PM
Did someone use the word "guesstimation"? Horrors.
Posted by: Nomi at October 15, 2009 1:33 PM
So it is legally a 1 (accoring to NYC DOB) family, but configured as a 2 family against zoning and being sold in a 2 family price range? Hmmmm, something about that seems not quite right to me.
Posted by: mixicon at October 15, 2009 1:34 PM
Also agree with Dave's and Nomi's comments. I "bid" $1.3 million on the widget, but if I could get it for $1.2 million, I'd be willing to fix the layout problems. Except for the dog, the photos don't help the cause, so this may well be a house that must be seen in person, and I think I'll do just that.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 15, 2009 1:34 PM
are we betting the house won't fly
or
that it fetches within 10% of ask?
Posted by: antidope at October 15, 2009 1:38 PM
Antidope, I'll take you up on within 10% of ask. @ or north of 1.435M, you win. @ or lower than 1.375M, I win. in btwn, draw.
Posted by: more4less at October 15, 2009 1:44 PM
I also think charming and homey but looks to me no shower just a clawfoot tub. I don't see no shower curtain for it.
Other than changing that looks pretty move-in condition.
Assuming there is no snow on stoop today.
Posted by: Petebklyn at October 15, 2009 1:50 PM
And NO WAY is this house 3,360 sq. ft. as stated in the listing. Not even with the cellar.
Posted by: brownjokester at October 15, 2009 1:52 PM
Ef. I'm freezing. I have to leave my apartment to warm up now . . ..
Posted by: Nomi at October 15, 2009 1:52 PM
I feel like the important rooms did not have windows in them.
I hate it !
Posted by: STARGAZER at October 15, 2009 1:55 PM
I'm also not in thove with the front stoop with those massive cement sides.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 15, 2009 1:58 PM
thove???? love
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 15, 2009 1:58 PM
I do not "hate" it, but I did notice too the dark areas, so to speak. Problem when brownstones get to deep.
Posted by: Nomi at October 15, 2009 1:59 PM
I love the kitchen! Stainless steel minus cute tchotchkes = "city morgue." Also love the staircase, like a dainty little pale-green cake with icing curls. But the dog clinches the deal. It seems like such a happy place. (I always think it's dumb to strip every shred of individuality from a house staging; are people so devoid of imagination that they can only project their lives onto a sterile hotel interior?)
Posted by: Brenda from Flatbush at October 15, 2009 1:59 PM
Saw this house a few months ago...couple of things:
- its right across the street from a school playground
- commercial kitchen (owner runs a catering biz out of house)
- house is narrow and center stair eats up a lot of room
- house next door is a boarded up disaster
- no great entertaining space
It is a charming house, with interesting details and some nice character. I think 1.595 is still way high. I would say in the 1.3 ballpark.
Posted by: stnbrkn at October 15, 2009 2:05 PM
Brenda, agree. Though, I think there's a middle ground. Somewhere.
Posted by: Nomi at October 15, 2009 2:16 PM
"Did someone use the word "guesstimation"? Horrors."
No, not someone Nomi. I did. My name is right under the post just as it is on this one.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at October 15, 2009 2:26 PM
it's cute. overpriced by a bit though, i think 1.3 would definitely do it. funny at the end of the listing, pets allowed. like really, you are allowed to have pets in a home that you own? chuh.
Posted by: CG_ups at October 15, 2009 2:29 PM
"Did someone use the word "guesstimation"? Horrors."
No, not someone Nomi. I did. My name is right under the post just as it is on this one.
Oh, I was just having fun, TownhouseLady. I only have a mild distaste for that word. Except when Christopher Walken uses it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XtuPvwBa2U.
Posted by: Nomi at October 15, 2009 2:32 PM
i think that's a fair bet, but i'm not real interested in the stakes. how 'bout winner gets to choose a new handle if you're tied to your current one i'd be willing to make it a temporary name change. that's how i ex-communicated brickoven. i already have your alt-id picked out.
Posted by: antidope at October 15, 2009 2:46 PM
Seems like the kind of house where all who have entered, friends and guests alike, have left happy, having spent tome with a super dog, well-fed with great food, and have absolutely loved it.
That said, does anyone else find it odd that the little 'bathroom' on the parlor floor has a toilet but no sink, while there are two little sinks sans toilets on upper floors?
Posted by: Nokilissa at October 15, 2009 2:48 PM
btw 14 people hit the lowest possible price on the widget machine. 39 total appraisals so that is pretty big bear influence. they're not dead yet.
Posted by: antidope at October 15, 2009 2:48 PM
CG_ups, I thought the broker was trying to be funny when she said "pets allowed", don't you think? (I'd hate to think she was serious, LOL.)
Posted by: CarrollGardened at October 15, 2009 2:54 PM
i suspect that because of the stairs being higher at that point that it overlaps with the sink on the floorplan. sloped ceiling side or something.
Posted by: CG_ups at October 15, 2009 2:55 PM
broker humor, so unexpected that it didn't even occur to me. hah. you're probably right though.
Posted by: CG_ups at October 15, 2009 2:57 PM
http://www.prudentialelliman.com/NYCPhotos/buildings/de/101229.1229124131.jpg
I don't see a sink there.
Posted by: rjm at October 15, 2009 3:05 PM
Antidope, not interested in the alt ID. how about loser has to campaign under the other's flag? if I lose, I would chew out the aggressive bear posters, cheer on the strength of mkt,... if you lose, be very liberal with the "stupid buyer" posts.
Posted by: more4less at October 15, 2009 3:18 PM
Yes it will fly right after the chicken and the dog do. Thank goodness home prices are coming down for the middle class american and not for the wall street broker only.
Posted by: hannible at October 15, 2009 3:53 PM
"Think it'll fly?"
Yup. Kamikaze style.
***Bill Thompson for Mayor***
Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at October 15, 2009 4:07 PM
I liked this place the first time, and I still do. It is one of the more homey and charming places we've had for HOTD. Most tend to look like they have been watching too many episodes of Design to Sell. I agree with Brenda wholeheartedly.
Whether that helps or hinders sales is a whole 'nother animal. If you like it as is, you'd probably think it would appeal to other like minded people. If you hate it, you probably think everyone else will too. The only sure test is if/when it sells.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at October 15, 2009 4:08 PM
hannible, have a look at the Douglass Elliman thread this morning!!!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 15, 2009 4:24 PM
DIBS, have a look at your prostate while your head is in your ass!!!!!!
***Bill Thompson for Mayor***
Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at October 15, 2009 5:09 PM
I love small and narrow houses and I get the lived-in charm thing but for when somebody's selling I'm gonna disagree about the decor being okay. In an extra narrow house you don't want to show it with lots of clutter. I can't even tell what the kitchen is like there's so much stuff on the shelves and extra freestanding pieces. And are those Longaberger baskets in front of the fireplace? What if I were curious about the fireplace and actually wanted to be able to see it? The place doesn't need to look sterile but it can't look like a flea market either.
Posted by: traditionalmod at October 15, 2009 9:07 PM
OVER PRICED>>> @ $1,595m lets be realistic broker and seller
try >>>$1,300!!!
Posted by: tjj at October 20, 2009 9:55 PM
OVER PRICED>>> @ $1,595m lets be realistic broker and seller
try >>>$1,300!!!
Posted by: tjj at October 20, 2009 9:55 PM
OVER PRICED>>> @ $1,595m lets be realistic broker and seller
try >>>$1,300!!!
Posted by: tjj at October 20, 2009 9:55 PM
When did we get SNOW?
Take a look at the first shot?
HUH?
Seller BEWARE...look how your broker is marketing???
Posted by: tjj at October 22, 2009 8:43 PM
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