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October 8, 2009

Con Ed Readying Demolition of 3rd Street Warehouse

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As a reader pointed out to us last week, markings appeared on the sidewalk outside the building on the northeast corner of 3rd Street and 3rd Avenue pointing to the location of gas and sewer lines, which usually happens before a demolition. And that's the case here: Con Ed, which owns the property, plans to demolish the warehouse this fall. A spokesperson says they haven't decided what they're going to build in its place yet. The most interesting thing about this property is that it's connected to a wall that some believe was part of a ballpark the Dodgers played at before Ebbets. (Others are not so sure, though most baseball historians think it's an important structure regardless of whether it's Dodgers-related or not.) In any event, the Con Ed spokesperson said the wall, which mainly runs from 1st Street down to a section of 3rd Avenue, will not be harmed by the warehouse demolition. GMAP DOB




Posted by Gabby at 10:30 AM | Comments (20)
Categories: Demolition, Gowanus

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It's a shame, I actually really like this building. I have taken many pictures of it over the years:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/daltonrooney/2552934494/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/daltonrooney/515577559/

Posted by: bivouac at October 8, 2009 10:58 AM

The wall is generally considered to be the last remaining part of the 2nd Washington Park (3rd if you include the park that stood where JJ Byrne is). The Stone wall is likely the wall from the Federal Park built c 1914. The Dodgers did not played here pre-wall.

Still a very historic Baseball artifact

Posted by: fsrg at October 8, 2009 11:15 AM

Sorry - the Dodgers played here pre-(concrete) wall. The Wall is from the ill fated Federal League that lasted 2 seasons (Brooklyn team owned by Ward Brothers of famous Bakery)

Posted by: fsrg at October 8, 2009 11:25 AM


"The wall is generally considered to be the last remaining part of the 2nd Washington Park (3rd if you include the park that stood where JJ Byrne is)."

FYI

http://bit.ly/3WtEn2

Posted by: East New York at October 8, 2009 11:33 AM

Glad to see that wall will remain, at least. Bur what happens aftwer demolition?

Posted by: denton at October 8, 2009 12:27 PM

Forgive my ignorance, but why would they demolish it without a plan for what is replacing it? Can we assume that this means it will just be an empty lot for the foreseeable future? Because we don't have quite enough of those in this neighborhood.

Posted by: ninethreesix at October 8, 2009 12:48 PM

I had always heard, as irrefutable fact, that this was the place where the Brooklyn Dodgers played ball prior to the construction of Ebbet's Field. There are photos of the ballpark. It was just a big lot with walls around it and bleachers built over the locker rooms. Some of those walls, included sealed up windows from the locker rooms survive. The lot is now used for service vehicles I think.

Posted by: Minard Lafever at October 8, 2009 12:53 PM

its deja vu...

all over again.

word leaked that con ed was going to destroy this wall about 8 or 9 years ago. there was a story in the times about it. they backed down over some public outcry.

its a shame that they dont just leave the wall alone.

Posted by: bkn4life at October 8, 2009 12:59 PM

If all that is preventing this from demolition is some connection to some old ballpark than that is absurd.
I support historicial preservation and all (with limits) but we're not talking the roman coliseum.

Posted by: Petebklyn at October 8, 2009 1:20 PM

Minard - this is definitly the site where the National Baseball Team from Brooklyn (Dodgers) played but the Wall is almost definitly not a reminent of that ballpark. The Brooklyn Team played in a wooden stadium (hence the move to Ebbets Field) and then after the move, the stadium was completly ripped down and a concrete ballpark was built for the Brooklyn Tip Tops (named after the Ward's Bakery Bread) of the Federal League was built and used for 2 seasons - this wall is likely from that stadium.

As to its preservation, Pete this is a relatively small wall and the issue isnt preserving the building its preserving the one wall - and while it wasnt the Roman Coliseum - Washington Park (both) was truly one of the original sites of Professional Baseball in this country and such a wall is very unique in NYC (Wrigly Field was built at the same time and for the Federal League as well) so I think it is worthy of preservation.

Posted by: fsrg at October 8, 2009 1:45 PM

The Federal League Brooklyn team was called the Brooklyn Tip-Tops. In case anyone is interested. They were largely composed of lesser known players but had a few semi-famous players.

Posted by: henrycurtis at October 8, 2009 3:40 PM

No, Pete, not the Coliseum, not even Monticello. But it is the oldest remnant of ANY major league park, anywhere in America.

GO TWINS!

Posted by: altervoce at October 8, 2009 3:58 PM


"GO TWINS!"

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Two games left. The twins have about as much chance of beating the Yankees as I do of waking up a woman. Only 10 more victories to Championship #27!

Posted by: East New York at October 8, 2009 4:09 PM

So the Brooklyn Tip Tops were named after the popular bread from Ward's bakery.
That is very interesting, thank you fsrq. It makes the recent loss of the bakery building seem even more senseless.


Posted by: Minard Lafever at October 8, 2009 5:00 PM

ENY - please STFU!! We can celebrate when its done

Posted by: fsrg at October 8, 2009 5:40 PM

$201,449,189 / 103 wins = $2,043,196 per win
$65,299,266 / 87 wins = $750,566 per win

"Only 10 more victories to Championship #27!" I guess the Yanquis are entitled. After all, they've won 911 games since Championship #26. If they win it all this year, Championship #27 will have cost almost $2 billion. Yes, with a "b".

Posted by: altervoce at October 8, 2009 5:42 PM


"Championship #27 will have cost almost $2 billion. Yes, with a "b"."

That's right! Suck on it, loser! This in NYC, Big Money City!

BTW, what do you care? GEORGE (a true winner) is footing the bill, not you.

On to the championship!!

Posted by: East New York at October 8, 2009 5:46 PM

GEORGE -- he must be quite the mythic figure if we write his name in all caps -- isn't footing the bill. Everyone who buys a Yanqui cap, a ticket or pays their cable bill is picking up the tab. When competitiveness is determined by who is in the largest georgraphic market and has the most lucrative cable deal and merchandizing, then the game isn't played on the field; it's played in the board room. I have no respect for teams that pocket the "luxury tax" and settle for 70 wins and a balance sheet that works for the owner. But I do respect teams, like the Twins, that scout, sign and develop good players, trade wisely, and field a competitive roster without going out and buying an all-star team.

Posted by: altervoce at October 8, 2009 8:03 PM


"hen competitiveness is determined by who is in the largest georgraphic market and has the most lucrative cable deal and merchandizing, then the game isn't played on the field; it's played in the board room. I have no respect for teams that pocket the "luxury tax" and settle for 70 wins and a balance sheet thatblah blah blah blah blah blah..."

On to New York Yankees championship #27! Step aside, jealous losers! All hail Boss George, the greatest owner in sports.

Posted by: East New York at October 9, 2009 1:54 PM

You know I posted that just to get a rise out of you, don't you? You're like a kid brother, with about as much emotional control.

Posted by: altervoce at October 9, 2009 5:24 PM

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