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I was rebuked by beoch for posting this already on What's OT so here it is...
Sweeter Than Sweet...And certainly sweeter than TUTs....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4fsHLWi_xI
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 9:17 AM
Who wants to talk about bicycle transportation? And maybe a dollop of street car/trolley fun?
Posted by: tybur6 at September 30, 2009 9:27 AM
Trolley dollies????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 9:28 AM
Mercury is in retrograde this morning :) yay! im feelin' good! i haven't felt good in over a year.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at September 30, 2009 9:33 AM
bxgrl, just giving you an advance heads-up that there's no need to entertain me during lunch - will be browsing sports to firm up my football pool picks.
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 9:34 AM
Looks as if today's hot topic is a mailbox on the Forum. Amazing which stimuli evoke passioned responses.
Posted by: Arkady at September 30, 2009 9:44 AM
LOL, Arkady. I'm sure the bike lane thread will bring out the best of everyone as well.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 9:48 AM
No worries, M4L, bxgrl is out of town. Dive right into your football pool.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at September 30, 2009 9:52 AM
I'm glad to see the mailbox issue was elevated to the front page here!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 9:53 AM
Markets are broken. It's 2007 all over again
Posted by: the chicken at September 30, 2009 9:59 AM
Chicken Little, IS THAT YOU???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 10:02 AM
THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: the chicken at September 30, 2009 10:06 AM
Dave, Chicken Little is me - ie already pivoted to all-cash
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 10:07 AM
m4l, you still interested in the "hands on training??" :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 10:09 AM
chicken, Please, my nerves, don't say THAT!
Posted by: cobblehiller at September 30, 2009 10:13 AM
DIBS, maybe soon - ie if dude I'm training tells my boss he's able to do my job
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 10:15 AM
running for cover, unfortunately I can make changes to 401K only once a qtr and 10/1 can't come soon enough
Posted by: DeLepp at September 30, 2009 10:16 AM
Sorry Cobby, I calls it like I sees it
Posted by: the chicken at September 30, 2009 10:19 AM
m4l, you still interested in the "hands on training??" :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 10:09 AM
DIBS, maybe soon
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 10:15 AM
Too much information guys...
Posted by: the chicken at September 30, 2009 10:20 AM
Chicken, that's was in reference to DIBS offering to train me so I can be a HANDyman
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 10:28 AM
What are the chances this filthy apt has mice/roaches??
http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/abo/1398000511.html
Posted by: dirty_hipster at September 30, 2009 10:29 AM
Delepp, is that a firm or industry specific restriction regarding 401k changes once per qtr?
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 10:29 AM
everytime i ask to opt out of the 401K, my employer ignores my request. :-/ it's the biggest waste of money, for me anyway. and i just wanna take out what i already put in it. ive been doing it for years and seriously i think i only have like a few hundred dollars in it anyway. lol
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at September 30, 2009 10:30 AM
m4l, firm
Posted by: DeLepp at September 30, 2009 10:32 AM
dh - Not to mention fruit flies!
Posted by: Arkady at September 30, 2009 10:32 AM
DH, with tenants like that, is there any doubt?
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 10:33 AM
and bed bugs. This issue got rob in trouble with 11217 yesterday!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 10:35 AM
chicken, you recommending all-cash, start short positions, go mainly cash,...?
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 10:35 AM
rob - you are absolutely not required to contribute to your 401k plan. if you withdraw the money from your 401k, they will tax it heavily BUT you should absolutely not have to contribute to it if you don't want to. Speak to your payroll department (or if you don't have payroll people, speak to someone in HR who handles benefits). Or if your 401k is managed by a large company, like Fidelity or whatnot, you can probably opt out online or by calling the company managing your 401k.
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 10:36 AM
OK, talk to us lay people. What are you finance/investment/trading types seeing today and just how spooked are you?
Posted by: slopefarm at September 30, 2009 10:37 AM
"chicken, you recommending all-cash, start short positions, go mainly cash,...?
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 10:35 AM"
So much depends on your individual risk and liquidity profile - but would certainly have a decent slug in cash.
If you're paying aggressively then small short positions with tight stops in industries with high operational leverage and have benefitted from replenishing inventories of late.
Posted by: the chicken at September 30, 2009 10:41 AM
Not spooked. Selloff has been widely anticipated and been the consensus viewpoint. it isn't happening with any strength whatsoever. I believe we'll get a string year-end rally as investment professionals are largely lagging the indices and show that they have too much cash. Clients aren't going to want to see that at year end. Rally into year-end and then a sell off.
GDP numbers the next few quarters are likely to be surprisingly strong. Unemployment is a lagging indicator.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 10:42 AM
two investment professional, two divergent opinions. Just goes to show that it's a mug's game...
Posted by: the chicken at September 30, 2009 10:46 AM
Why would u opt out of 401K...it's free money...u don't have to buy equities...u can short them(SDS)...u can buy gold...u can buy a money mkt fund....it's tax free money 'til Congress takes it away.....Slopefarm turn off the lights the party's over....1st stop SPX 920...the forecast calls for PAIN....lots of it
Posted by: bklyn14 at September 30, 2009 10:46 AM
self contributions to 401k are not free money, they are taken out of your paycheck before taxes. it's money that you've earned. so essentially it's your own money but you are deferring your tax payment until when you withdraw it at retirement. if someone needs the cash now, then it makes sense for him to cease contributing to his 401k, as is his right.
the company match is free money but isn't worth creating financial hardship for oneself just to make the 401k contribution.
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 10:50 AM
Chicken, I'm all cash currently. cashed out recently when mkt stopped powering up. I was itchy to lock in the gains and partly so I can brag to my friends I'm up for the crisis vs they're still climbing out of their holes. I would say my risk tolerance is high. in my mind, I would like to think I'm conservative but my actions reflect that of high risk investor - ie I usually have all $$$ in 5 or less equity positions
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 10:52 AM
anyone thinks that the tax rate will be super high by time we're eligible to withdraw from retirement accts - ie big enough increase in tax rates to eliminate the benefits of the deferral of current contributions?
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 10:56 AM
M4L, presumably you'll be in a lower tax bracket post retirement so then your lower tax bracket in the future would have to rise above your current tax bracket. that would probably be a big jump, no? also, you'd be paying taxes on that income now, versus deferring payment for 30+ years, so also add in the difference of paying those taxes now versus being able to invest that money. etc. If you can afford it, putting away for retirement is a good thing. esp since we'll probably won't have social security benefits like currently paid out.
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 11:02 AM
M4L, although a 5 stock portfolio is not truly diversified it's also not necessarily high risk if they are low-beta and liquid.
I personally have ultra low risk tolerance for my own personal investments - I don't need to be much wealthier but I can't afford to be poor.
Posted by: the chicken at September 30, 2009 11:03 AM
NO, m4l. When you're withdrawing from your 401k you will have lower expenses in those years (you will have paid of your mortgage, not be renting and therefore have lower monthly outlays) and you'll be earning less.
So you will be in a lower tax bracket.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 11:03 AM
ANNOUNCEMENT:
CobbleSnaps Productions is CANCELING the October 15th event a Union Hall.
Please accept our apologies. Many thanks to the posters that were participating in the planning of and activities for the event.
Posted by: cobblehiller at September 30, 2009 11:03 AM
"401 k contributions r taken out of your pay check before taxes" CG that's the whole point and that's actually a good thing--unless u enjoy paying taxes. Saving and investing your money tax free is the same as receiving after tax income every 2 weeks ? Really ? Why r 401 k plans so popular? Financial hardship might be what one encounters when you're 59 and relying on a broke gov't
Posted by: bklyn14 at September 30, 2009 11:07 AM
CHiller - What happened? Are you both o.k.?
Posted by: Arkady at September 30, 2009 11:07 AM
HUH. WTF???
If this is true DIBS Productions will have it elsewhere.
Oct 15 IS NOT CANCELLED
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 11:08 AM
anyone else need financial advice? looks like we're on a roll this morning. i feel like a less orange suze orman.
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 11:08 AM
cobble--what means you? I was going to break my no drinking policy for this event. What is going on?
Posted by: wasder at September 30, 2009 11:11 AM
I have a CD reaching maturity soon - where should I put my dough?
Posted by: dirty_hipster at September 30, 2009 11:11 AM
CDs are so 90s. get an iPod
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 11:13 AM
chiller - i hope that it is not cancelled due to the craziness that have been going on recently. i'm sorry that you and others have been the target of some awful, mean comments. the name calling and nastiness have been completely out of line. you and snappy shouldn't have to feel like you're doing a lot of work for an ungrateful audience, so you shouldn't have to be the organizer for the party if you don't want to do it. but hopefully you don't take the nastiness to heart.
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 11:13 AM
hah dibs
Posted by: dirty_hipster at September 30, 2009 11:15 AM
I just can't do it.
If anyone wants to make up another event, feel free. I just can't participate.
Posted by: cobblehiller at September 30, 2009 11:16 AM
banks LOVE deposits right now. you can probably roll it into another CD. call your bank and ask for rates. i know that chase often has unadvertised "banker's rates" that can be better than the publicly advertised rates. they may have minimum deposits of $5k or $10k but if you are certain that you won't need that money for the time period, then they are a nice safe bet. especially since CDs are also guaranteed by the FDIC (under $250k, all rules as usual apply)
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 11:16 AM
drama!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at September 30, 2009 11:22 AM
Well, it was you and Snappy who went through all the trouble of composing the ballot and getting us excited, and all of us are very, very grateful for that. Credit always goes to the people there are the finish line, rarely to those who get things started.
Posted by: infinitejester at September 30, 2009 11:22 AM
My money goes liquid in 2011, I will prob bite the bullet and buy then.
Posted by: infinitejester at September 30, 2009 11:23 AM
Cobble, Hi!
I am sick as a dog but I need to put in my 5 cents. Anyhoo, as Lech pointed out to me when I went ape shit on some moron for anti-semitic remarks, it's totally not worth it cause it's just some troll.
Why would you cut out a fun event that you guys had planned for some stupid troll(s) that came in? You know that PLUSAs argue all the time but then we have such great time at the events and there is a lot to talk about the following day.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at September 30, 2009 11:24 AM
We may still post the results of the ballots! That was fun, thanks for voting.
Posted by: cobblehiller at September 30, 2009 11:25 AM
C-hiller---c'mon! Don't drop a bomb like that and then disappear. I guarantee you we can have a party where reasonable, appreciative people show up and thank you and Snaps for your hard work. I am pissed about all the dumb crap people have been tossing around. Lets get it together folks.
Posted by: wasder at September 30, 2009 11:26 AM
DIBS / CG_ups,
I've been hearing some co-workers griping that the current 35% (or so) tax rate would/could balloon to 50% by time they're eligible to withdraw from 401k and such a spike would eliminate a ton of the deferral benefits. The basis for their thinking is someone has to pay for the massive ballooning deficits and that someone is us. I don't have an opinion on it yet as I'm still chewing on it
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 11:26 AM
I'm here wasder. There will be other events in the future. Just not this one.
I know people liked the idea, not feeling unappreciated! : )
Posted by: cobblehiller at September 30, 2009 11:29 AM
m4l, I think that's the thinking of the lunatic fringe. Even I, as a republican, do not believe such an outcome is likely under the democrats.
Besides, by the time you retire the Republicans will be back to lower rates again.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 11:29 AM
m4l, the thing is (read my posts closely, i put thought into them!!! heheh) that you will be in a lower tax bracket bc you will have a much lower income (presumably) post-retirement. so EXAMPLE ONLY, i don't know your tax bracket, but if you're currently in 33% bucket making $ABC / year, you may be making $ABC minus $50,000 / year, putting you in today's $18% bucket (just example numbers to make it easier to understand). so even if all the rates get jacked up, today's 18% bucket would have to exceed 33% at retirement. what i think we're saying is that is a HUGE jump.
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 11:31 AM
dh, what rate are you earning on the CD????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 11:31 AM
Dave - it was an 18 mo @ 5.25%
Posted by: dirty_hipster at September 30, 2009 11:33 AM
Right on. cobble--check and then disregard your email then... (seriously--hate to play that game again)
Posted by: wasder at September 30, 2009 11:35 AM
For those who wonder who buys these homes we see featured here:
'08 rise in NYC rich club
By ANDY SOLTIS
Posted: 2:47 AM, September 30, 2009
Just before the economy tanked, New York's rich got richer.
More than 43,000 city households last year joined the wealth club of those earning $200,000 annually or more, according to new US Census figures.
The jump was part of a rapidly growing income gap across the country that saw middle- and low-income families get pinched more by the recession.
In Manhattan, the number of households with incomes below $10,000 a year rose by 529 in 2008 -- while those in the $200,000-a-year class shot up by more than 19,000.
Other boroughs also saw a spike in the wealthiest households: an increase of more than 6,000 in Brooklyn, 5,300 in Queens, 1,500 in The Bronx and 1,400 on Staten Island.
In contrast, the average US household had an income of $50,303 last year, the lowest level in 12 years, and down from $52,163 in 2007.
"No one should be surprised at the increased disparity," said Richard Freeman, a Harvard University economist. "Unemployment hurts normal workers who do not have the golden parachutes the folks at the top have."
Posted by: 11217 at September 30, 2009 11:35 AM
dh - you can probably do around as good with shorter duration. i like to keep CDs a year or shorter. the nice thing is that you can totally shop for CDs. i think there are some websites that actually post rates for all the companies? maybe bankrate dot com or something like that. i should practice what i preach, i just roll mine over with chase.
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 11:36 AM
It will be difficult to get that return without taking risk in some equities. There are a lot out there that yield 5% or more but you'll have to know what you're buying and be OK with volatility.
On my yield side, I own:
TSM 4.15%
CHT 5.87%
PHI 6.41%
PGH 10.68%
so 5.52%
There is no guarantee of pricipal stability with these names. 30 Year treasuries are at 4%.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 11:39 AM
just to throw into yield list, at&t (T) still has 6%+ yields.
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 11:50 AM
Oh, no, cobble. So sorry this blog has taken a toll. I'm disappointed and was looking forward to the evening. But you don't owe it to anyone here to do something your heart isn't into.
Posted by: slopefarm at September 30, 2009 11:50 AM
I say we just all still go to Union Hall (or somewhere else) on Oct 15 anyway.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 11:52 AM
is the space still reserved? snappy made me a birfday baggy. with sprinkles. or sparkles. or both.
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 11:53 AM
Sorry to hear that the Union Hall event is cancelled. I am going to be at Press 195 (5th & Union) that evening and was considering popping into Union Hall to hear the winners.
Posted by: Crescent Hill at September 30, 2009 11:55 AM
"is the space still reserved? snappy made me a birfday baggy. with sprinkles. or sparkles. or both."
Space is still reserved and I will be there.
Whoever else wants to go, please join me.
Thanks.
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 30, 2009 11:58 AM
And here I thought the only drama today was going to revolve around mailboxes. :-)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 12:02 PM
all right. so lets just go to Union Hall on the 15th anyway.
Posted by: wasder at September 30, 2009 12:02 PM
wasder is in. Awesome!
DIBS is in. Awesome!
Anyone else?
This will be a ChampionInBed production.
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 30, 2009 12:04 PM
omg, that mailbox forum post is bananas! heheh
i will stop by union hall since i already bought vacuum bags in anticipation of a sprinkle sparkle explosion in my house. have to be at an alumni thing earlier in the evening though so will be late.
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 12:04 PM
oooh wasder, were you one of the people possibly interested in doing the book club?
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 12:05 PM
delepp will be there
Posted by: DeLepp at September 30, 2009 12:08 PM
We need to convince 11217 to come and meet rob.
ghettoazzpnkbtch...are you coming?????? I saw you lurking in silverdaddies!!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 12:09 PM
delepp will be there
Posted by: DeLepp at September 30, 2009 12:08 PM
Question is though, will the bf be there???? :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 12:10 PM
50/50 on the happy mexican.
Posted by: DeLepp at September 30, 2009 12:14 PM
Dave,
I'm actually taking off for vacation late next week and won't be back till the 19th. Otherwise, I would have thought about it due to my proximity to Union Hall and the fact that I really do like that place...
Posted by: 11217 at September 30, 2009 12:15 PM
I will be there.
Posted by: infinitejester at September 30, 2009 12:15 PM
CG ups--I'll do a book club, sure.
Posted by: wasder at September 30, 2009 12:16 PM
11217, heading back to BA?
Posted by: DeLepp at September 30, 2009 12:17 PM
DeLepp - book club?
great wasder! i think we got one person in park slope, tinarina(sp?) and me in CG. I'm happy to host or i'm sure we can find some nice central coffeeshop or rotate locations.
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 12:21 PM
We would like to attend on the 15th as well. CH, there's some weird vibe going on with your posts. Hope you change your mind.
Posted by: denton at September 30, 2009 12:23 PM
I'm in the park so don't have access to all my stuff but from memory some yields are good on
VZ
MRK
STD
some of the MLPs
I figured the crash would be good for value investing so I've been chasing yields as well. Was a bit early but doing ok now.
I don't recall if it was Graham & Dodd who said 'one shoyld only by a stock to receive a dividend or in the expectaion of doing so'
Posted by: denton at September 30, 2009 12:26 PM
Thanks also Denton (plus Mrs. D), CG_ups, jester, DeLepp and all others who will still show to The End of The World Party (Redux).
I'll do some promotion as we get close.
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 30, 2009 12:27 PM
> it was an 18 mo @ 5.25%
I somehow doubt you will find a CD anywhere near that now.
But if you do, PLEASE tell me where.
Posted by: DitmasSnark at September 30, 2009 12:28 PM
Biff, would your rep be hurt with the bar if the asshat turnout is weaker than you suggested to them for the reservation?
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 12:29 PM
The End of the World Year 2! thank god we survived this far. And here's to many more!
Posted by: wasder at September 30, 2009 12:29 PM
VZ 6.3%
MRK 4.85%
STD 4.8%
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 12:29 PM
Pete;
Please see the information I just posted in the thread about this week's biggest sales. It's the data you've been requesting for some time on the condo market, and it is based on ACTUAL sales data in my condo complex. The bottom line? A 6% drop from the peak sales price. I want to see how folks are going to spin this. Miss Muffet? DIBS? Jackal??? Where are you????
11217: you'll enjoy the data too.
Gotta go, very busy today!
Posted by: benson at September 30, 2009 12:30 PM
i asked yesterday, got no answer, i think i asked twice. ill ask a third time, wtf happened?
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at September 30, 2009 12:32 PM
"Biff, would your rep be hurt with the bar if the asshat turnout is weaker than you suggested to them for the reservation?"
M4L, I'm not at all worried about that. We'll still have a good crowd it seems and all we need are a few strong drinkers to keep them happy. That's where me, DeLepp and DH come in!
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 30, 2009 12:36 PM
100?
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 12:38 PM
Biff, if your rep is potentially at risk, let someone else take the rep hit - ie the direct reports' main purpose is to take bullet for prez when things look bad and let prez take credit when things look good. I had a few scape goat names in mind if your rep was at risk.
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 12:41 PM
nope
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 12:41 PM
could everyone refrain from posting till I get thread killer award? at the point, would love to get any award vs nil
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 12:42 PM
M4L, the Prez steps up in times of turmoil.
I will lead us all through this and to the gathering on October 15!
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 30, 2009 12:46 PM
Biff, what do you plan to do about the Mideast situation???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 12:47 PM
Cobble, you don't need to answer but is this more about nastiness here, defection to the what's OT, or something else? I think there are a number of long-time PLUSAs who consider you a vital part of the community and we would want to make things right if we could.
Posted by: slopefarm at September 30, 2009 12:53 PM
"Biff, what do you plan to do about the Mideast situation???"
I will address it as soon as my midriff situation is rectified.
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 30, 2009 12:54 PM
amen slopefarm. We need our cobble. and our snappy.
Posted by: wasder at September 30, 2009 12:55 PM
I think there are a number of long-time PLUSAs who consider you a vital part of the community and we would want to make things right if we could.
Posted by: slopefarm at September 30, 2009 12:53 PM
Here, here. Well said.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 12:55 PM
Biff, WTF Man!!! I was on knees begging for no posting till I get thread killer award and you ruined it.
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 12:56 PM
What slopefarm said!
Why are we letting the ugly behavior take away from your joy/efforts?
Don't let ugly win.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 30, 2009 12:59 PM
bxgrl just confirmed that she and Montrose will most likely be there on the 15th.
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 30, 2009 12:59 PM
Biff, WTF Man!!! I was on knees begging for no posting till I get thread killer award and you ruined it.
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 12:56 PM
Really, on knees?? Hmmmmm. And i was hoping you were the "top."
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 12:59 PM
I hope MM will bring us some examples of bxgrl's mail.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 1:00 PM
OK....thanks to THL, we have a new T-shirt slogan for Oct 15.
"Don't Let Ugly Win"
Not as interesting as "One Swallow Does Not A Summer Make" but still catchy I think.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 1:02 PM
Biff, I would like to attend too. But given how I somehow missed the last 2 after me saying I'll be there, I won't ofter empty promises
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 1:02 PM
ooh, i call DIBS on bxgrl's coupon mailers. i need to get my rug cleaned.
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 1:02 PM
rob--hate to say it but you really have to read Monday's OT to understand. And even then it won't make complete sense. Somebody made up a log in name and shat all over the OT members.
Posted by: wasder at September 30, 2009 1:03 PM
Rob, no one is responding to you cause no one knows the answer
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 1:03 PM
ooh, i call DIBS on bxgrl's coupon mailers. i need to get my rug cleaned.
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 1:02 PM
that post is a bad set up for some colorful re-writes
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 1:04 PM
No one is answering because it's long and convoluted. You'd have to read Monday's OT combined with What's OT's.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 30, 2009 1:07 PM
Cobble, Snappy, I second slopefarm, wasder, DIBS and THL. It would be like the Whos canceling Christmas because the Grinch made off with their gifts and decorations.
(Back to the Sit Room to monitor the Mideast Crisis for the Prez.)
Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 30, 2009 1:07 PM
ah okay,. damnit, that was the afternoon i spent watching court and talk shows on the couch. grrrr i miss everything. ill go look. can you read that far back in posts? is it possible someone can link me to monday's ot?
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at September 30, 2009 1:09 PM
rob, I think you don't have a bf because you're too needy.
Start in Monday's OT around 2:00 or so. Do you know how to do that???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 1:11 PM
hey, I haven't quit or defected or anything...just enjoying my vacation home for a while.
Posted by: lechacal at September 30, 2009 1:11 PM
Lech, fraternazing (or however it's spelled) with our old sparring partner is borderline mutiny
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 1:13 PM
quote:
rob, I think you don't have a bf because you're too needy.
i dont think that's it at all. plus i no longer want a boyfriend (or a girlfriend for that matter).
besides, i've found the light.
http://www.asexuality.org/home/
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at September 30, 2009 1:16 PM
Cobble, You're great. I hope you change your mind.
Busy with work today and leaving for Stockholm tomorrow.
Posted by: jessibaby at September 30, 2009 1:17 PM
JB, 6yrs wants me to remind you "no HOOKUPs" (as you defined it for DH last time regarding your trip to thailand) on the trip
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 1:20 PM
m4l, I'm over there too. I'm renting a room from lechacal for Indian Summer.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 1:21 PM
Haha, m4l, you're a little behind with your gossip...I doubt he told you that given our current status!
Posted by: jessibaby at September 30, 2009 1:22 PM
Haha, m4l, you're a little behind with your gossip...I doubt he told you that given our current status!
Posted by: jessibaby at September 30, 2009 1:22 PM
ahhhhhhhh, I might be behind on gossip but this dim bulb has enough juice to understand what that means
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 1:27 PM
Let's discuss cats. here's a new Nora video.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmdnA2LbRo0
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 1:28 PM
I've been busy today and have to run. I just scanned the OT and realized what is going on.
Cobble/Snaps: please don't do this!! THL is so right: don't reward those who behave boorishly and devisively. You are both well-loved by many folks on this site, myself included. In fact,I'll go further and say that the two of you always strike me as among the most cheerful and fun. You two, along with a few others have been instrumental in building up this "PLUSA" thing we have here.
Don't reward the wrong people. Please, please, please reconsider.
Posted by: benson at September 30, 2009 1:32 PM
Great Nora clip, dibs! Looks as if she's going to have kittens, though.
I agree w/ what everyone says about not letting the uglies win but if Snaps & Cobble feel uncomfortable about it, it's those sensibilities that make them the people we admire.
And there is hope for us all - more posts about the mail box than about the bikes!
Posted by: Arkady at September 30, 2009 1:37 PM
"Don't reward the wrong people. Please, please, please reconsider."
"Somebody made up a log in name and shat all over the OT members."
"Don't Let Ugly Win"
It's officially a schism. Cliques have formed. Predictable.
Posted by: East New York at September 30, 2009 1:41 PM
Anyone else receive an e-mail from Ms. Fatima Watara?
Posted by: East New York at September 30, 2009 1:43 PM
heh. ENY, very true. histrionics are contagious.
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 1:43 PM
let me further add...
To those who are continuing to engage in back room nastiness, plans for retribution, snide comments one way or the other, etc. are only serving to widen the 'PLUSA rift' and really makes you no better than those who initially engaged in the inappropriate behavior.
Can we all just get a grip, return our school uniforms, wipe the slate clean and go back to being semi-mature adults?
I mean, we could give it a shot right?
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 30, 2009 1:43 PM
ok. i had breakfast AND lunch in the cafeteria today. was too tired last night to prepare something healthy to bring in. forgot even my nice apple-pears (for some reason the market calls them asian pears) in the fridge at home. :(
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 1:44 PM
also i had a ramen noodles the other day for the first time since like college. now i remember why they were so popular. pretty tasty for 25c a pack. heheh.
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 1:46 PM
Might this be lechacal's first cat reference???
From the What's OT where we are having a discussion about going to strip clubs..
"I'll go ahead and field that one for the audience. Basically a lap dance in NYC means you don't get to touch them (otherwise the guy in the corner who does steroids will come fuck you up) but they kind of dance around / up against you for 2 minutes. It's kind of dumb when you really think about it, and in a lot of ways it's just a way to waste twenty bucks really fast, but they do make enough contact with you to leave you smelling like stripper. In a way it's kind of a question of who's touching whom. But in any event there isn't any touchy-touchy, it's more just suggestive rubby-rubby, like a cat that rubs up against your leg but it's a stripper."
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 1:46 PM
I agree, THL.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 1:47 PM
CG_ups, speaking of fruits, what did you decide to do regarding your neighbor's fruit tree? did you do ninja route and sprung over wall to take the fruits?
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 1:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8GHf-aELjY
ok, different reactions expected to this very cute kitten. rather than aaaaw, i was more of the giggle variety, esp towards the end when his face is mashed up against the big red ball. yup.
saw the neighbor outside with her kid and got permission for next year! by the time i could speak to her in person, the pears had pretty much all fell to the ground.
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 1:58 PM
I'd like to think of it more as a reformation then a schism, ENY
anywho - football banter anyone?
Posted by: dirty_hipster at September 30, 2009 1:59 PM
so ... much ... grease ...
must ... not ...
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 1:59 PM
Yesterday was one of the worst days I have ever had in recent memory.
I need help.
The short story: 48 hours before I'm scheduled to fly to Hong Kong (and before a very nice LA academic is due to move to my apartment for 4 month) I am awakened to find a bug on my white duvet cover. I smack the bug, and-OMG!-- blood bursts across the mattress.
I spend the next several hours in a frenzy, tearing apart my bedroom, the bed, the frame the bedding. I don't find anything but I do see one more dead bedbug on the floor. So I call the subtenant, call an exterminator, and begin packing up all my clothes, drying them at 140 degree heat, and sealing them in plastic bags in preparation.
Today some good news: the exterminator couldn't find signs of infestation. I'm going to do the exterminate anyway, of course. They need to do it twice, spaced at least 10 days apart. I postponed my departure by two weeks. I'm dealing with this part, as awful as it is.
But my poor subtenant--who still wants to stay here--has no place to sleep (she has an office in Manhattan).
So my question: do any of you guys know of someone who has a spare room to rent from now until October 15th to a really nice 50-something writer and academic from LA?
Thanks.
Posted by: WonTon at September 30, 2009 2:01 PM
omg, what a nightmare wonton! good thing you caught it before it got widespread. sounds like you might have nipped things in the bud. i dunno about any sublets but craigslist is usually pretty good for that sort of thing i think.
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 2:04 PM
"So my question: do any of you guys know of someone who has a spare room to rent from now until October 15th to a really nice 50-something writer and academic from LA?"
No way - you have bedbugs. ;)
Posted by: dirty_hipster at September 30, 2009 2:05 PM
Awful, WonTon. There's a service called VRBO that has short-term rentals that's supposedly very good. I've had friends who've used it.
Neat clip, Dibs! Have you seen those crocheted balls anywhere? They used to be all over but I haven't been able to find any in the last 2 years.
Posted by: Arkady at September 30, 2009 2:08 PM
"I'd like to think of it more as a reformation then a schism, ENY"
Got it. So who's playing Martin Luther in this PLUSA "reformation?" I'm curious (this is getting good).
Posted by: East New York at September 30, 2009 2:08 PM
DH, I'm a little torn. I like to see Jets win but then I would like to see undefeated G-Men face an undefeated Saints team too - that would be juicy matchup (battle for #1 ranking in league,...)
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 2:13 PM
EUROTRASH!
"German men are 'world's worst lovers' with English men in second place"
http://bit.ly/1CaNsc
Posted by: East New York at September 30, 2009 2:16 PM
Yeah - I hear ya M4L - but i'd love to see the Jets hit Brees in the mouth.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at September 30, 2009 2:28 PM
is everyone else at WHAT's OT? someone please pass the coffee
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 2:39 PM
The OT grows, now it's dying. A new generation of PLUSAs. Maybe in 6 months we'll check in and some other people will be talking about getting together. Brownstoner rolls on...
Posted by: infinitejester at September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
more4less - if you entertain them, they will come (field of dreams). i.e. start up an interest convo and people will jump in. i am waiting for some reports to come out (anxiously waiting on my tippy toes) but you gotta make your own cake! ya know?
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 2:46 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703787204574442912720525316.html
Here's an interesting article about which cities are drawing the most college grads...
Apparently The What and others are incorrect...New York remains highly desirable, and is part of the reason why the unemployment rate is high here...because people KEEP moving here...
Posted by: 11217 at September 30, 2009 2:49 PM
OK..here's one....
Best Buy is all over the tape today sating how they are adding staff because of the record demand for flat panel TVs. July is much stronger than December was. Granted, December suffered from Lehman effect but it was still Christmas
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 2:50 PM
CG_ups, I'm not complaining rather happy that all the riff raff's are gone and hope they stay gone. didn't like 'em. dont like 'em. will never like 'em. bunch of pansies.
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 2:53 PM
m4l, you have to state which ones you consider riff raff's (sp) and pansies.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 2:55 PM
quote:
Here's an interesting article about which cities are drawing the most college grads...
Apparently The What and others are incorrect...New York remains highly desirable, and is part of the reason why the unemployment rate is high here...because people KEEP moving here...
-- i, like many, wish they would stay the f-ck actually.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at September 30, 2009 2:57 PM
DIBS, I'm handing out those labels out like flyers on the streets.
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 3:01 PM
wonton,
maybe post in the forum?
and VRBO as arkady said can be helpful.
Posted by: Petebklyn at September 30, 2009 3:01 PM
i thought you and lechacal were big buddies M4L?
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 3:05 PM
maybe nothing to discuss here but remember that house on Joralemon st. that was really rundown...white wood frame that had a fire and poor guy lived in most of his life and couldn't afford to fix. (eventually sold and was fixed and resold).
well that public auction of props (I think mentioned on brownstoners this weed) - has a minimum bid for a carriage house on Hicks for $2m.....guess what - was owned by that same old guy. Who has died, no will, etc and thats why being auctioned off.
Interesting old coots out there.
Posted by: Petebklyn at September 30, 2009 3:11 PM
Folks;
I'm back for a second. I want to make one more comment, in response to ENY's post about schisms and my statement: "Don't reward the wrong people". Let me be clear about what I meant with that statement:
-I do not consider myself part of any clique or schism, nor am I trying to promote any such thing.
-I would be happy if all folks returned to the OT,including those who decided to decamp to the What's blog.
-So, let me be clear by exactly what I meant by "wrong people": it is those people who decided to hide behind an anonymous log-in name and call Brighton and Bitter ugly,and also those on the What's blog who posted that some women on this OT need to get laid and other such vile stuff. I do not know for a fact who pulled these stunts. I do know that it was disgusting behavior, and I once again appeal to Cobble and Snappy not to reward it by cancelling an event whereby people from different walks of life get together for a few hours,have some laughs,socialize, and learn a few things.
Posted by: benson at September 30, 2009 3:14 PM
CG_ups, I give you. that was my "build it and they'll come" attempt you suggested I try. in the past, throw out some hate and there would be a spike in post count. guess people are really gone. oh well, guess it's time to hang out and meet some new friends on curbed.com
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 3:19 PM
You can't meet actual friends on curbed.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 3:22 PM
"those on the What's blog who posted that some women on this OT need to get laid and other such vile stuff."
this i didn't see. this is a much more plausible explanation for why Cobblesnaps is off. one would think that enough time has been spent together digitally and in real life that we could resort from devolving into a highschool pissing match, but I guess its human nature.
Posted by: wasder at September 30, 2009 3:24 PM
It's pretty much me, lechcal and the two girls over on What's blog with a few additional new posters and one that looks/acts like Another Lurker; which is odd.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 3:31 PM
I find it hard to believe that any of the regular group is responsible for all that venom - certainly, no one who has come to the get-togethers. One thing I've liked about our gatherings is the idea that we're not hunched over keyboards & out of touch w/ human contact - I imagine we're unique as far as blog-ship goes & it's a shame if that ends.
Posted by: Arkady at September 30, 2009 3:33 PM
dibs, another one I forgot, downgraded today but has been berry berry good to me is HTS, currently yielding 13.8%.
Posted by: denton at September 30, 2009 3:34 PM
Arkady, AL said that he/she was at pacifico and met them.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 3:35 PM
The What has a blog?
Thats brilliant! Is it about antipsychotics?
Posted by: dittoburg at September 30, 2009 3:35 PM
i was never any good figuring out this kind of stuff when i was a kid, it was so much easier to be a tom-boy and hang out with dudes. new chicks depart for new blog. existing chicks flee this blog. bstoner becomes a sausage fest. i feel like if there's anything more boring to me than cat talk, it's sports talk. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
meanwhile mo-fo press release looks like it's coming out tomorrow. blergh!
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 3:37 PM
Maybe it was a stranger who just learned about the blog? Perhaps someone who hit on them unsuccessfully?
Posted by: Arkady at September 30, 2009 3:38 PM
arkady - from the level of detail that was known, it had to be either a regular or a really creepily dedicated lurker.
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 3:40 PM
What is the address of The What's blog....I'm rather curious...
Posted by: 11217 at September 30, 2009 3:40 PM
CG_ups, for dudes, it's sports or sex talk. since you don't want sports talke, you want to talk about....?
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 3:40 PM
www.asshathill.blogspot.com
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 3:47 PM
rob, you crack me up with the 401k stuff... as usual.
The first question to ask, is your employer doing a 'match'. That is, many will 'match' what you put in up to 6% or so of your salary. You put in a hundred bucks, they put in a hundred bucks. Get it? It's like with every forty, you get one free. Why would you not take a free forty?
Second, even if you THINK they are taking a grand a month, or whatever, from your salary, you are not actually PAYING a grand a month. That is, because you are reducing your taxable salary by that amount and so you will not be paying any taxes on that grand!
Unlike what someone said above, it is highly unlikely that you will be able to short, buy gold stocks, or anything like that. That is so when people like you do exactly that and get killed, you will not be able to sue your employer. They do have enuf options to participate in domestic equities, overseas equities, or no equities at all. Alot of them are now offering those stupid 'target date' funds.
I do recall dibs offering to sit down with you and go over your options, so wtf?
Posted by: denton at September 30, 2009 3:47 PM
11217--if you google asshat hill you will find it.
Posted by: wasder at September 30, 2009 3:49 PM
NEW RULE FOR THE OT...which I think may bring a lot of people back....
No more talk about "check your email."
I think this got tedious, on people's nerves and wound people up.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 3:50 PM
since OT is now just the usual bs, let me ask a real estate question. anyone know what's the down paymt % for a 4, 6, and 8 family unit bldg? am asking cause I find these multi-family bldg look like relative bargains to the 1, 2, & 3 family units bldgs
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 3:51 PM
ha denton. well my employer doesn't match our 401k contributions. and i only contribute 1 or 2% of my check to 401k anyway, not sure which one it is. so it really is a miniscule amount to begin with.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at September 30, 2009 3:54 PM
Just came in, and am so bummed. Cobble, Snappy, what happened? Whether you throw the party or not is irrelevant to you guys being ok with us as people. I don't know who or what has upset you, because I've been busy, as well as not really reading the OT lately. I just scroll past endless bon mots by the same people until I see something that interests me, sorry guys, but I do. However, Cobble and Snaps are among my favorite people, and I hate to think some small minded, pseudo witty person or people have upset you. Don't let them win! You know who your real friends here are. I am amazed and pleased at the real friends I have made from this site, and I consider both of you friends, as to many others. (Virtual hug)
Posted by: Montrose Morris at September 30, 2009 3:55 PM
DIBS, check your email for my thoughts on the matter.
Posted by: DitmasSnark at September 30, 2009 3:55 PM
Not cute, Snark, just banal.
Posted by: Arkady at September 30, 2009 3:59 PM
Snark, what are your fantasies??? I don't mean high ceilings with architectural detail.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 4:01 PM
Attention foodies:
Does anyone know where I can purchase sea urchins? I don't mean at a restaurant either. I want to get them shipped to me or pick them up.
Thanks!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 30, 2009 4:04 PM
oh wow, thanks benson for clearly stating above what went down , i didnt want to go searching for old threads.. wow, seriously beyond lame the person to say such lame things.
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at September 30, 2009 4:04 PM
DIBS put the "anal" in banal.
(Sorry, couldn't resist)
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 30, 2009 4:05 PM
> Snark, what are your fantasies???
Arkady wearing a ball-gag.
Posted by: DitmasSnark at September 30, 2009 4:06 PM
THL - you may have some luck with the fishmarket in the bronx i think? the old fulton fish market that moved uptown somewhere. you're not likely to find it even in fish shops though. or do you want one like a living pet? that might be tougher.
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 4:06 PM
Chinatown, Arkady. Not sure which shops. They'd be alot more expensive shipped in dry ice mail order.
I can find out.
I'didn't take you for an urchin girl; more of a roe ho. :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 4:07 PM
DIBS, proposing & enforcing rules on OT is mission impossible and too BIG BROTHER. People should follow Rob's attitude for this crap:
- fight when you want to
- fight when attacked
- speak your piece when you want to
- tomorrow is a new day; not to forget stuff but dont put bad memories on 24/7 recall
if the small fire is too hot to handle, then you aint got what it takes to hang here and hang somewhere you're more comfortable with.
AL posted 1 unappropriate post. Unappropriate? heck YES but it wasn't end of the world. chill people chill
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 4:07 PM
Sorry, THL, not Arkady.
I am visualizing Arkady though in the ball gag right now!!!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 4:08 PM
Cancel my request. I found a place in Boston that ships it overnight!
http://tinyurl.com/ydfjezg
My neighbor is from Barabados and has been trying to find it for ages. I think half the problem is she keeps searching for 'sea eggs'. She's a very special lady and I'm going to get it for her as a thank you for all the help she's given me while I haven't felt so hot.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 30, 2009 4:09 PM
INappropriate not UNappropriate. you're not representin' you numnut!
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 4:10 PM
I've had uni Dave but only in a restaurant. I'm curious to see how she handles/prepares it.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 30, 2009 4:10 PM
Pass the popcorn. This promises to be a battle of the heavyweights (in terms of their wit, not weight).
Arkady v. Snark
I wouldn't want to cyber tangle with either one of them.
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 30, 2009 4:11 PM
Forgive me, that comment was inappropriate.
Banal even.
Toodles, kids.
Posted by: DitmasSnark at September 30, 2009 4:12 PM
i effin love sea urchin. if she ever wants the best in the city it's at Soto in the west vill.
Posted by: CG_ups at September 30, 2009 4:12 PM
"INappropriate not UNappropriate. you're not representin' you numnut!"
It's "numb nut"
Apparently you aren't representing either, CG_ups.
:-)
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 30, 2009 4:12 PM
Chinatown for urchins almost year 'round.
Yes, more roe-ho, fo sho. (Sturgeon, though, not shad.)
Gag me w/ a spoon - so long as I can keyboard!
Posted by: Arkady at September 30, 2009 4:12 PM
Could someone explain to me what happened in the OT that maybe caused the meetup to be cancelled? I've been on deadline at work and haven't been able to read it for at least a week. Thank you!
Posted by: mopar at September 30, 2009 4:12 PM
M4L, the meet up isn't cancelled, you numb nut.
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 30, 2009 4:14 PM
Oops, seems I'm the numb nut! That was mopar, not M4L. Apologies to both!
I need to read the fine print.
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 30, 2009 4:15 PM
There are a lot of numb nuts here today, especially bad spellers too.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 4:15 PM
I am depressed today because my company has decided to shift some manufacturing from a plant in Indiana to one in Mexico. The manufacturing in question is for the automotive sector.
I've been to the plant a number of times - it is in the southern rural part of Indiana. In fact, to get to it,you have to fly into Lousville. It is a slice of Middle America,and I mean that in a good way. Folks work at the factory, and it provides enough to buy a modest home with a small boat in the driveway for fishing on the weekend - and that is fine with them. People with no pretensions - just good plain folk.
I am beside myself these days in watching all the business sectors related to engineering slipping away. Of course that's self-serving, but there is more to it than that. This morning I had to drive to work, which I rarely do. As I was driving up 4th Ave, I noticed that the construction site on 4th Ave and Baltic is active again -swarming with hardhats. Big, burly guys doing a job. Perhaps I'm strange,but such a sight makes me feel good. The problem is that it is happening less and less.
Posted by: benson at September 30, 2009 4:17 PM
Sorry I've been away all week.
Did I miss anything?
Posted by: Sad sad little man at September 30, 2009 4:18 PM
That is a downer, Benson. (And I liked your earlier remarks about the thread too.)
Posted by: Arkady at September 30, 2009 4:19 PM
"I am depressed today because my company has decided to shift some manufacturing from a plant in Indiana to one in Mexico."
DIBS, why don't you apply for the Foreman's position?
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 30, 2009 4:20 PM
"DIBS, check your email for my thoughts on the matter."
LOL
"Forgive me, that comment was inappropriate."
I thought it was funny. Also, as PLUSA President, shouldn't Biff be making the rules? Mr. President?
Posted by: East New York at September 30, 2009 4:25 PM
What's the position???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 4:25 PM
No rules, just use common courtesy.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 30, 2009 4:27 PM
"No rules, just use common courtesy."
Elegant, and to the point.
Posted by: benson at September 30, 2009 4:30 PM
"What's the position???"
Not sure, but if it involves four men who are mexican, I'm sure you'll be interested.
"as PLUSA President, shouldn't Biff be making the rules? Mr. President?"
The young man knows the rules, but the old man knows the exceptions.
Oliver Wendell Holmes
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 30, 2009 4:34 PM
One more:
"Hell, there are no rules here - we're trying to accomplish something."
Thomas A. Edison
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 30, 2009 4:35 PM
There are rules for punctuation and grammar, which should be followed.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 4:37 PM
Arkady - I've attempted to get shad roe to eat on a number of occasions - never pulled it off. I've had shad itself though which is just too boney for the effort.
Posted by: dittoburg at September 30, 2009 4:40 PM
Shad roe has a very specific season - in the spring for a very short time. As stated above, it's not a fave of mine but my motehr & brother loved it. Sauteed in butter. No good at all if not really fresh.
Posted by: Arkady at September 30, 2009 4:44 PM
Yoicks! Mother.
Posted by: Arkady at September 30, 2009 4:45 PM
I never had shad roe, although I have lived on skid row.
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 30, 2009 4:45 PM
What a good president, Biffy! Bringing it all back to real estate.
Posted by: Arkady at September 30, 2009 4:47 PM
Thanks Arkady, but on Brownstoner I should be discussing row houses as opposed to skid row.
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 30, 2009 4:48 PM
Trademark violation going on over at Asshat Hill. That bitch stole my [wink].
Posted by: Sarah Palin at September 30, 2009 4:49 PM
Get over there and defend yourself, one bitch to another.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 4:50 PM
The question is: is it "contextual" shad roe? Hope so, so that it gets Mr.B's thumbs up!
Posted by: benson at September 30, 2009 4:51 PM
So go complain about it over there. Why are you carrying it back over here?
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 30, 2009 4:51 PM
Arkady - I know, when the Shad are running up the Hudson - my luck has been the places have sold out by the time I get there...
Posted by: dittoburg at September 30, 2009 4:52 PM
I'm sure the [wink] was ghost-written anyway, just like your forthcoming books. No big violation there. (There, that ought to get lechacal back here where he belongs.)
Posted by: slopefarm at September 30, 2009 4:52 PM
slope, come on. You don't think Sarah palin wrote those 400 pages?????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 4:56 PM
they cancelled shad roe fest this past spring. 'cause not enough shad anymore.
Posted by: Petebklyn at September 30, 2009 5:01 PM
bummer
Posted by: dittoburg at September 30, 2009 5:03 PM
I remember smelt season on Lake michigan when i lived in CHicago.....fried smelts...yuuuummmmmm
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 5:06 PM
M4L;
I just saw your question above regarding mortgages.
Here is the general rule:
Homes that are 1-3 family are considered "private",and fannie mae and freddie mac will buy their mortgage on the secondary market. The down payment required varies from 10 to 20%, depending on your credit score.
Homes that are 4 families or more are considered commercial/investment. Mortgages on these homes are not underwritten by Freddie or Fannie, and are thus more strict. Usually 30% down is required, and the interest rate is usually 0.5% higher than that of conventional single-family home mortgages.
Posted by: benson at September 30, 2009 5:09 PM
Funny DIBS. The papers were full of quotes yesterday from sources close to Palin talking about how hands on she was, how these are her real words, etc. No one was willing to come out and say she wrote the thing, but they tried to imply it without lying. Sounded like a bunch of realtors.
happy to play along if it gets lechacal (and Palin's wink) back.
Posted by: slopefarm at September 30, 2009 5:11 PM
"There are rules for punctuation and grammar, which should be followed."
"I remember smelt season on Lake michigan when i lived in CHicago"
Posted by: Arkady at September 30, 2009 5:11 PM
DIBS, can one get fried smelts in NYC?
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 30, 2009 5:11 PM
A politician who uses a ghost writer. I'm shocked, SHOCKED,I tell ya.
Slopefarm, you do remember that when Hillary Clinton wrote her puff piece "It Takes a Village", she didn't have the courtesy to acknowledge her ghost writer on the cover page?
MWA HA HA HA!
Posted by: benson at September 30, 2009 5:15 PM
I've smelt fries in NYC.
Posted by: Arkady at September 30, 2009 5:16 PM
Biff, I haven't seen them. I get them at Sansome Street Oyster house in Philly.
Looks like I got pulled over by the punctuation beoch, er, I mean police.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 5:17 PM
I've fried tuna melts.
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 30, 2009 5:19 PM
Dibs - I didn't see any comment about your punctuation by the police - looks like a self-inflicted wound to me.
Posted by: Arkady at September 30, 2009 5:20 PM
MWA HA HA HA!
Posted by: benson at September 30, 2009 5:15 PM
Somehow MWAHAHAHAH coming out of your mouth seems uncharacteristic.
And that was a compliment.
OK...it's down in the subway for me, emerging in the ghetto in 35 minutes
Bye Bye
[wink]
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 30, 2009 5:21 PM
Oh yes, benson, very funny, lots of pols do it. Pointless to engage in a Dem v. Rep. battle over whose books were ghostwritten. What I love, however, is the spin in Palin's case. There's no need to imply that Hillary wrote her book. She obviously could ahve if she wanted to, she was just too entitled/busy/lazy/arrogant/name your adjective. The reason people cared about Hillary not naming the gw is it revealed her arrogance, not stupidity, because whatever things people think about Hillary, they don't question her intellect.
The spin now is all about implying that, whatever's in those 400 pages, Sarah Palin could have written it herself, because there are inevitable doubts. To the extent the book is about burnishing her credentials, it fails if no one but true believers believes it is her book. You watch -- all the spin is going to be about trying to imply how much this book is really hers and reflects her writing, her intellect, her ideas, etc.
Posted by: slopefarm at September 30, 2009 5:25 PM
We'll know if she wrote it by the 'Gosh' and 'Golly' count. You have to assume the editors couldn't have caught and deleted all of them.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 30, 2009 5:29 PM
Slopefarm;
OK, I understand your point, but let me make a follow-up comment. Just as there are "true believers", there are also "true unbelievers". Somehow I think that no matter what Sarah Palin did here, including having a 3rd party witness her writing the book, would have convinced the True Unbelievers that it was her baby. She's just one of those polarizing figures (like Bill Clinton and "W").
Posted by: benson at September 30, 2009 5:31 PM
benson, really sucks what is going on. I am really fearful for the future of this country, for the first time ever.
Anyway, you're in engineering, not mfg. Someone still has to design the sh*t.
What I really effin' hate is when I get some new sh*t in that used to be made somewhere in the US, now it says made in Mexico or China. Happened to me last week. So I call up the mfgr and say, how come it's the same price? Then you get some blathering bs about the need to 'be competitive'. But the big companies are sucking up the money and not even letting the little guys getting a taste of what they save sending it offshore.
A few months ago I got blindsided like that by another American mfgr, you'd immediately recognize the name. I only noticed cuz the Mexican factory left some production slip in the box in Spanish. I called them up and told them we found a tequila bottle in the box. Assholes!
Posted by: denton at September 30, 2009 5:34 PM
THL, we can add, "Ya know" and "Darn" to that list.
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 30, 2009 5:35 PM
True!
Very few people these days write their own books. Particularly politicians. So even if she did 'write it' I'm sure she had plenty of oversight.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 30, 2009 5:37 PM
I just came out from long mtg where I have constant thought bouncing in my head "boy, am I surrounded by idiots (or numb nuts)"
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 5:38 PM
CG_ups, I immigrant. not child genius like you. unappropriate, inappropriate - they look close enough to me
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 5:39 PM
Benson and Denton I was watching the show Shark Tank last night. Don't really love the show but, what I did love was this one guy who came on. He'd developed a wheat free (for kids with allergies) version of Play Doh.
Play Doh was trying to buy the patent from him. One of the Sharks was trying to get him to do a deal with him and give away 51% of the company so that he could negotiate with Play Doh on his behalf.
Loved the guy. He would ONLY agree if the Shark made sure that it would bring jobs to his community. He wanted it to be manufactured in his town (I think somewhere in Indiana or Nebraska- I remember him standing in a corn field).
That guy made me so happy.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 30, 2009 5:42 PM
M4L- So I'm not an immigrant what's my excuse? Public schooling?
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 30, 2009 5:45 PM
THL, blame the immigrants - it's a very convenient excuse
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 5:50 PM
I agree, benson. The figures are polarizing and the public is polarized. People on both sides are unreceptive to contrary facts and unable to accept that their own opinions are not necessarily facts or the only way of looking at things. As for me, I'd probably need a video of Palin typing away, and the video needs to show the screen. ;)
Meanwhile, I join you and denton in bemoaning the loss of mfg jobs. The labor-oriented view is this is why we need protectionism. The right's view is this is why we need to reduce taxes, regulations and wage requirements. It's an awful choice -- wall off Mexico, become Mexico or let the jobs go. No easy answers.
Posted by: slopefarm at September 30, 2009 5:53 PM
later peeps. till tomorrow.
Posted by: more4less at September 30, 2009 6:00 PM
You know I follow Nascar and there was this big Brouhaha when they allowed Toyota in. Previous to that it had always been the big US automakers. so it got everyone's dander up.
Thing is my dad pointed out to me that while everyone was getting their knickers in a twist about that Ford moved one of their biggest manuf. plants to Mexico. Meanwhile Toyota operates several throughout the US. Texas, Miss, Alabama, Kentucky, W. VA.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 30, 2009 6:02 PM
Jessi, are you out there? Interested in walking the bridge tonight? I didn't cycle today.
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 30, 2009 6:03 PM
Biff, watch out for those cyclists
Posted by: dittoburg at September 30, 2009 6:11 PM
Very funny, ditto!
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 30, 2009 6:14 PM
that's right thl, it's not about the name on the front, it's about where it was built and by whom. I'm glad there's a '% domestic content' section on window stickers these days.
Posted by: denton at September 30, 2009 6:23 PM
Something to lighten the mood.
A Blonde drops off a shirt at the cleaners.
The Asian lady behind the counter thanks her, and says
"Come Again".
The Blonde says
"No, it's toothpaste this time you nosy b*tch"
Have a good night all. Let's keep the mood happy tomorrow.
Posted by: brownjokester at September 30, 2009 6:27 PM
brownjokester, why does the joke have to perpetuate the stereotype that only Asians work at cleaners? That is VERY racist.
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 30, 2009 6:30 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AND I AM TOTALLY KIDDING! :-)
It was a good joke.
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 30, 2009 6:31 PM
Awesome joke (I totally know who you are). ;)
Posted by: lechacal at September 30, 2009 6:32 PM
oh boy, never mind. I was just trying to lighten things up around here. Oh Well.
Posted by: brownjokester at September 30, 2009 6:33 PM
Sorry Biff. I didn't see your follow up post.
I hope tomorrow is a sane day around here.
Let's all hold hands and pray.
Posted by: brownjokester at September 30, 2009 6:37 PM
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