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Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 9:18 AM

[Unzips tent flaps]

Mornin' Snaps! Just goin' to the main house for a minute to see if Cobble made my coffee yet.

[Plods off]

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 9:20 AM

Cargar you crack me up! I'm about to go have some breakfast myself...I'm thinkin' pancakes and bacon...yum :-)

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 9:22 AM

The electioneering is becoming annoying, reminiscent of all those idiots standing at subway entrances. Not that you're an idiot, of course. :-P

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 9:23 AM

Oops, drank all the coffee! But for you CGar, I'll put on a fresh pot!

Posted by: cobblehiller at September 24, 2009 9:23 AM

I had a second helping of egg rolls for breakfast. :-0

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 9:23 AM

sorree, me no citizen. no can vote. bye bye

Posted by: more4less at September 24, 2009 9:25 AM

Mornin' Dave, Cobbble. Thanks, Cobble. Snappy mentioned bacon ... if it isn't too much trouble this morning, do you think you could make me bacon, too?

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 9:25 AM

Never too early for an egg roll, dave ;)

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 9:26 AM

Dave...I represent that remark!

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 9:27 AM

sorree, me no citizen. no can vote. bye bye

Posted by: more4less at September 24, 2009 9:25 AM


This is as offensive as the Italian speak. We'll have none of it anymore here.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 9:28 AM

And just think Dave...you'll be treated to this electioneering until Oct. 2! Weeeeee!

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 9:28 AM

Oopsy, emergency call from a friend, gotta run. Back online tomorrow.

I'm ignoring you, DIBS.

Posted by: cobblehiller at September 24, 2009 9:28 AM

I hope we get some very controversial threads today. I'm in a particularly good mood and up for a few fif=ghts, er, I mean discussions.

I noticed the What took down all his Faggot posts. Perhaps he took his meds. :(

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 9:30 AM

this free country. me speak how I want

Posted by: more4less at September 24, 2009 9:30 AM

"I represent that remark"

Snappy, I realize you're looking for clients, but be a little more discriminating

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 9:31 AM

LOL :)

Ok...off to breakfast! Later asshats.

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 9:33 AM

mmm bacon and eggs sounds good. i bought an onion bagel with cream cheese from the coffee cart for a buck. ick. it looks like a bagel, but it tastes like wonder bread. not that wonder bread isnt tasty or anything, but not when you think youre about to bite into a bagel. grrr

*rob*

Posted by: Butterfly at September 24, 2009 9:34 AM

I saw Jude Law in Hamlet last night, and I highly recommend it. It was an amazing production, and he was great. (Not to mention hot. And it didn't hurt that we were sitting 2d row Orchestra, where I could reach out and touch him inappropriately. I'm convinced JLaw and I locked eyes several times during long soliloquies.)

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 9:42 AM

Allright, what's up with these three-legged dogs in the South Slope? Quite a few around. Is this like a masochistic exercise in dog rescues or what? And how do they get three-legged anyway?

Posted by: denton at September 24, 2009 9:44 AM

I'm with M4L, pay my taxes but am disenfranchised.

Posted by: dittoburg at September 24, 2009 9:44 AM

good morning... I saw this flyer posted on Smith other day
(which I promptly ripped down of course)...but thought would be great thing to do for anybody that is outdoorsy
(not that too many here seem that type).
Ecocruise - Gowanus Canal to Valentino Beach this sat or sunday Gow Canal to Gov's Island or OCt 10th Gow Canal to Erie basin. Padding on Indian Shipping canoe accomdates 21 paddlers at a time..advan.reg req. 347-224-5828.

If I didn't go upstate on wkends I would absolutely do it.

Posted by: Petebklyn at September 24, 2009 9:46 AM

Bitter and Beoch - check your email

Posted by: dirty_hipster at September 24, 2009 9:48 AM

Allright, what's up with these three-legged dogs in the South Slope? Quite a few around. Is this like a masochistic exercise in dog rescues or what? And how do they get three-legged anyway?

Posted by: denton at September 24, 2009 9:44 AM


rob??? Is that you???

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 9:48 AM

OMG denton i notice that too. it's funny ive always sorta kinda wanted a three legged dog, or better one with no hind legs but it's butt sits comfortably on a roller skate type thing!

*rob*

Posted by: Butterfly at September 24, 2009 9:56 AM

Darn you CarrolGardened!!

I went out to dinner last night with friends. Someone chokes on his bite and I said:
You should chew it before you swallow, otherwise you'll have to spit.
[laughing as I'm saying it]

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 9:56 AM

Rob/Denton - Usually those dogs have been hit by cars (& maybe you were too, Denton: that post is so unlike you.)

Posted by: Arkady at September 24, 2009 9:58 AM

so Brownstoner links to headline Brooklyn Family Keeps Latino-Jewish traditions alive:::
who wants to attempt that accent 1st?

Posted by: Petebklyn at September 24, 2009 9:58 AM

Pete...the confusion would set in with a heavy Latin proununciation of "You."

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 10:01 AM

Pete, that's my ideal woman. I'll take a Latina Jew any day BUT not the Hasidic type. I don't want to eat my carne burritos without cheese and sour cream for the rest of my life.

Posted by: Kensingtonian at September 24, 2009 10:01 AM

how does a 3-legged male dog pee?

Posted by: Petebklyn at September 24, 2009 10:02 AM

"chew it before you swallow"

TWHS, RW

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 10:03 AM

" I don't want to eat my carne burritos without cheese and sour cream for the rest of my life."

I'd throw myself infront of a bus

Posted by: dirty_hipster at September 24, 2009 10:04 AM

Arkady, dibs said he wanted something controversial :-)

Posted by: denton at September 24, 2009 10:05 AM

OH GIANT RANT ON THE MTA!!!!!!!!!!!

okay earlier this week i bought a metrocard, put in 20 dollars cash. swiped it in all the turnstyles, didnt work. the guy said go thru the gate, i guess cuz he saw me just buy it? i thought fine, it will work another time, next morning same thing, didnt work. so then i ask the clerk what to do and he gave me an envelope where i have to return it for a refund. like as in MAIL IT IN. okay, there have been weeks where my literal last few dollars have gone to getting to and from work, id be screwed if this happenened on one of those days. the clerk said there was a system wide problem and this happened a lot. he was able to tell me tho after inputting something in his computer or whatever that my card had 20.75 on it. which i found strange considering i put in 20 bux for a new card.

does anyone know how long it will take to get my refund? and if i will even GET a refund? i have a strange feeling ill be waiting til im 75.

*rob*

Posted by: Butterfly at September 24, 2009 10:06 AM

"dibs said he wanted something controversial"

DIBS also said he wanted a contortionist. But he hasn't gotten that.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 10:07 AM

rob...I did this recently. they mail you a new card in about 2 weeks.

Just fill out as much info on the form as possible.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 10:08 AM

DIBS,

What impressed me most about what yesterday was how closely he continues to read this site, including -- perhaps especially -- the OT. He kept modifying his threads in a very up to the minute way in response to things that were said here. He is really invested in what people say on this site, perhaps more than any of us. So much for the buddha-like "I'm happy here" pose he adopted on asshathill. I think he can't stand not being part of the discussion here. (What's the over/under on how many minutes before he posts this comment on his blog and calls me another double expletive?)

Posted by: slopefarm at September 24, 2009 10:09 AM

CarGar, I read that the production was really great. I think JL is underrated as an actor because he's so good looking. He's done some really good work. You lucky tent dweller, you.

Posted by: Montrose Morris at September 24, 2009 10:09 AM

*rob*, the clerk might be able to transfer the amount from the defunct card to a new one.
Ask them to try that.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 10:10 AM

Speaking of contortionists, where is Biff with the new post that he promised daily of some of the oldie good ones???

our Prez is slacking!!!!!

Posted by: Kensingtonian at September 24, 2009 10:12 AM

MM, JLaw's looks and all joking aside, we were really impressed with how good he was. And that's a tough performance. He really carries the play. He's onstage almost the entire show. The rest of the cast, the staging, costumes, set, all were superb as well. I wouldn't be surprised if the limited run is extended.

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 10:12 AM

They won't transfer it, Re Writer. BTW, how do you know I've never had a contortionist.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 10:13 AM

I'd love a contortionist. Of the female persuasion, natch. Love those women in La Cirque and such.

Posted by: denton at September 24, 2009 10:16 AM

"They won't transfer it"
Sorry *rob*, for my bad advice.

"how do you know I've never had a contortionist."
Silly me, I forgot whom I was referring to.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 10:17 AM

Dirty, check FB.

Posted by: brighton beoch at September 24, 2009 10:19 AM

Rob, if you're that hard up, why not walk? Approx 40 mins to the BB, 20 mins over the BB. Add 5 mins for the Manhattan. Getting to be that time of year when temp-wise, it's pleasant.

Posted by: denton at September 24, 2009 10:19 AM

Feel better, Dirty.

Posted by: bitter retort at September 24, 2009 10:21 AM


Kens, are there really frum latinas? Now I'm wondering about blintzes with mole.

Posted by: slopefarm at September 24, 2009 10:21 AM

Never dated a contortionist but did date dancers (not the pole dancing type). One was a backup for stomp and danced in Broadway company since she was a kid and the other danced ballet for 14 years. Man oh man does that bring back memories. These girls could really stretch and bend.

Posted by: Kensingtonian at September 24, 2009 10:23 AM

I'd be less enthusiastic about a circumcised Latino.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 10:23 AM

Rob,
Denton is bit off. Manhattan bridge is quicker route.
I'm an expert.

Posted by: Petebklyn at September 24, 2009 10:26 AM

slope, according to the article there are. A bunch in Crown Heights Hasidic community. Also, I met quite a few from Argentina and Brazil but the ones I met were complete JAPS and their mommies & daddies were loaded. They spent most of their time traveling between LA, Miami, Buenos Aires and/or Rio de Janeiro.


Posted by: Kensingtonian at September 24, 2009 10:27 AM

You asked for it and I'm giving it to you (TWSS).

Some might remember the rather "cheeky" Bold Type Guest (BTG). He/she was out in full force on this thread.

Also amusing was BTG and Biff being told to STFU. Oh how I miss those faded type guests!

I present the Semi-Clad Contortionist Typist Thread:

http://tinyurl.com/yec8vr3

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 10:27 AM

"These girls could really stretch and bend."

Gymnasts are bendy too.

Posted by: dirty_hipster at September 24, 2009 10:27 AM

thanks bravo!

Posted by: dirty_hipster at September 24, 2009 10:28 AM

Paige, book your dirty face check.

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 10:30 AM

That Bold Type guest is really funny!!!!

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 10:33 AM

Peeing is easier for 3-legged dogs.

Posted by: Arkady at September 24, 2009 10:35 AM

"That Bold Type guest is really funny!!!!"

And certainly the first and last time the individual behind that login was referred to as a Mennonite.

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 10:36 AM

Dibs - Someone's asking for you on the Forum thread about insurance.

Posted by: Arkady at September 24, 2009 10:37 AM

quote:
Rob, if you're that hard up, why not walk? Approx 40 mins to the BB, 20 mins over the BB. Add 5 mins for the Manhattan. Getting to be that time of year when temp-wise, it's pleasant.

ive never thought about that. that would be a nice walk actually for exercise and save money! but then id feel like an idiot cuz i get monthly metrocards from work (we pay for it but it's pre-taxed from our paycheck so we save). we get them every three months, but i always wind up selling them on craigslist for cheaper and then wind up buying single rides most of the time :-/ dumb dumb dumb. i already ordered my three monthly cards for october, november, and december. so when they send me a new card with the amount i lost, i wont even need it. tho i probably will in november or something.

nyc needs to HALVE it's cost of living, seriously. or i maybe i need a night job. any have any suggestions?


*rob*

Posted by: Butterfly at September 24, 2009 10:38 AM

Biff, check your lobby.

Posted by: brighton beoch at September 24, 2009 10:38 AM

DH, How much was bail?

Posted by: bitter retort at September 24, 2009 10:39 AM

Aaah, the contortionist thread.
I was posting as 'guest' back in those days.
My post was at 11:35am

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 10:40 AM

Lech, your helicopter is circling.

Posted by: brighton beoch at September 24, 2009 10:41 AM

Some people need to check their email ASAP!

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 10:41 AM

Beoch, lobby is still there. Check.

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 10:44 AM

I see my mail as it come is when I'm logged into yahoo IM. No need for me to constantly check it.

Pull yourself into the 21st Century Re Writer.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 10:44 AM

Contortionist thread was meh. I expected better. It would definitely go over 300 posts these days and all would be about the picture and not the subject.

Posted by: Kensingtonian at September 24, 2009 10:44 AM

"DH, How much was bail?"

Too much - thank god for that new bailbonds place.

Posted by: dirty_hipster at September 24, 2009 10:45 AM

Kens, I definitely agree with you. I think it was by far most memorable for the picture, not the posts. Tomorrow I'll post the Dyker Heights "Mansion" thread, which was more notable for the comments.

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 10:46 AM

Biff, I remember that one! THL posted it at the one year anniversary of the thread mark. NOW THAT WAS HILARIOUS!


DH, bail? WTF did you or your friend got yourselves into?

Posted by: Kensingtonian at September 24, 2009 10:49 AM

"Rob,
Denton is bit off. Manhattan bridge is quicker route.
I'm an expert."

Sorry Pete. Facts are:

Brooklyn Bridge: 5989 feet long
Manhattan Bridge: 6855 feet long.

Maybe not a 5 min diff, but no way MB is faster than BB. Been doing that walk for over twenty five years almost daily. Unless you're including a tourist factor on the BB.

Posted by: denton at September 24, 2009 10:49 AM

OK, so here is my promised super-rant.

For the past two days, I attended a conference on Washington DC on offshore wind power. I'm still trying to recover from this "conference". My blood pressure is sky-high. Never have I seen an event that best demonstrates the lunacy of the way politics is practiced in the Northeast and Washington DC these days. Let me explain, and you decide for yourself.

What part of the country has the highest electricity rates, BY FAR, and the most trouble building new power plants, due to its density? The Northeast, of course. What part of the country has the best offshore wind "resources": the Northeast. The solution seems simple: build some "wind farms" offshore, right? But NNNNOOOOOOOO, this is the Northeast, where we are "sophisticated" about these things. Let me explain.

The first issue is that the NIMBY's who own beach homes don't want to look at off-shore windmills,despite their professed love for green energy. The solution? Developers are now proposing to move them out about 12 miles off-shore. However, doing so raises the cost of these projects enormously, for two reasons;

-the engineering gets alot more difficult. It's not easy building a row of windmills in deep water;

-more importantly, you are now talking about Federally-owned waters, rather than state-owned. This opens up a PANDORA'S BOX of federal regulations, which was really the main point of this conference. At this conference, two lawyers spent ONE AND A HALF HOURS giving a SUMMARY of the regulations. More than TWENTY types of studies and permits have to addressed. Some of them are legitimate - things like making sure the wind farms don't interfere with shipping lanes. Others are pure LUNACY. One of the studies required is to determine the effect of these wind farms on BATS. YES, BATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHO THE HELL CARES IF A FEW BATS ARE KILLED BY THESE THINGS???? You want to hear the ultimate lunacy? You also have to perform a study on the "Cultural and historical landmark" impact of this proposal. Are they for real???? What are we supposed to be concerned about: a brownstone that sunk to the bottom of the ocean??

At the end of this presentation, the director of the Interior Department who is responsible for this lunacy said that she was "proud" of this process. Really????

Of course, after this presentation, there were presentations from teams of lawyers, consultants and other folks with expensive suits who were offering their services to help you navigate through this process, all for a nice fat fee, of course. And of course, they were filled by the very same people who helped develop these regulations, including an ex-US Senator who was there (Senator Tydings of Maryland) They estimated that it would take "at least two years" to navigate through this maze. They must have used the word "stakeholders" 400 times. Leeches!!!! Parasites!!!! Why don't you do an honest day's worth of work, for once.

So, the reason that everyone was at this conference is they were faced with a predicament. Given these constraints, the possibly cheap wind power would now be super-expensive, more expensive than current rates. What to do?? NOOOOO PROBLEM. - the leeches have another answer: use stimulus money to build these things!! The geniuses in expensive suits thought that they were so clever.

Oh wait, though, there is a problem. When you use stimulus money, it's supposed to create "good American Jobs". All of the hardware for wind mills comes from overseas companies. They come from one Japanese company (the one I work for) and three European companies. So, the leeches invite representatives from these companies to attend, in the hopes that we will agree to set up some manufacturing operations here.

MEMO to the leeches: keep dreaming!!! After the presentations, I got together with the other manufacturing reps, and we were almost delerious with laughter at this nonsense. These expensive suits wouldn't know how to execute an engineering project if their life depended on it.

What the hell happened to the big dreamers in NY and areas like it? At one time, we could build the Empire State building in 13 months, and here we have leeches talking about a two year permit process. Robert Moses built the entire Riverside Park and henry Hudson Parkway in three years.

One final comment. At the very end of the conference, a guy got up to talk who made my day. He looked like the stereotypical sourthern highway patrol man. Tall and heavy, spoke with a drawl and wore a cheap suit. He was the president of an engineering company in Texas. He announced that he was already building wind farms off the coast of Texas. They were close enough in to fall into Texas waters, and the permit process was already done. I, and the other manufacturers' reps., gave him my card and told him that we would be pleased to do business with him.

Posted by: benson at September 24, 2009 10:49 AM

"I see my mail as it come is when I'm logged into yahoo IM. No need for me to constantly check it.
Pull yourself into the 21st Century Re Writer."

Oh honey, I am. But seems that others on here aren't.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 10:53 AM

benson, I've watched that bullshit with the proposed windmills off of Nantucket. It has been mostly the NIMBYs (you can imagine nantucket NIMBTism as the epitome of NIMBYism) who have stymied the process. Cape Cod has electric rates similar to Long Island as you might imagine.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 10:55 AM

AND, that may be The Best Rant of The year.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 10:57 AM

denton....I meant taking route for Manh bridge is faster not bridge itself...unless headed to city hall area. If I walked to Brk Bridge on way home I'm sure would take me much longer.

Posted by: Petebklyn at September 24, 2009 10:59 AM

benson, I am so in agreement with you. Not a goddamn thing can get built in this part of the country. It's truly disgusting.

I wish we really went 'locavore'. Maybe if we drilled for our own oil, generated our own electricity, and had our own slaughterhouses (like we used to on 125th Street when I was a kid) we would know the costs and benefits of things.

Look at the Westway fiasco.

And most people's idea of 'green' is some kind of shopping.

I used to have an apt in Houston back when I was in the international marine biz and totally agree about Texans having a better attitude about these things. A lot I didn't like about Texas but the fact that they actually make stuff, build stuff, and provide opportunities to the working classes was quite refreshing.

Posted by: denton at September 24, 2009 10:59 AM

m4l, they're talking about Asians & Chinatown in the rocery Stores thread.

Not making fun of their accents, just talking about dietary habits!!!

Do you guys know you can get Maine lobsters in Chinatown for about $6.00 per lb.!!!!

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 11:01 AM

"stereotypical sourthern highway patrol man. Tall and heavy, spoke with a drawl and wore a cheap suit"

Watch it Benson, Southerners will find this offensive and go on a tirade.
;-)

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 11:01 AM

Benson, your frustration is certainly understandable. I would be ranting too. It's unfortunate that people can't see beyond their own self interest, and the their pinheaded need to make things so much more complicated, costly, and self serving than is necessary.

Posted by: Montrose Morris at September 24, 2009 11:02 AM

DIBS, unlike you, I found myself a good sparring partner - antidope. He is only one I find is looking and is willing to spar with me.

Posted by: more4less at September 24, 2009 11:03 AM

CGAR, we see Jude Law around here quite a lot as he's a big supporter of a charity that we give some office space to.
He's a very nice man.

Posted by: the chicken at September 24, 2009 11:05 AM

I'm generally in agreement with antidope's view of real estate if i remember correctly. Not sure.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 11:05 AM

"Tall and heavy, spoke with a drawl and wore a cheap suit."

Re-Writer, not only is benson picking on the cheap suit, he's also mentioning the accent!

Y'all come back now, heahhh?

Posted by: denton at September 24, 2009 11:06 AM

Great rant, benson. And I am completely agreeing with you- how much more stupid can we get before we figure out that we cannot keep going on like this without clean energy? This is one of those few instances where I will say, re historic areas, screw them because if this keep up they won't exist anymore either. I happen to find the windmills very beautiful- I know some don't but ;more importantly, the energy they provide mus become top priority.

Posted by: bxgrl at September 24, 2009 11:07 AM

Benson,

I feel your pain.
The only thing these folks in Washington are waiting for is how to distribute the federal dollars used for these projects through their Wall street cronies with Bond issues.
This ongoing hoax is becoming more evident day by day.
Look at the Cap and Trade bullshit. The wall street firms like Goldman Sachs are always looking at their angle in these projects because ultimately all the monies will have to be sifted through their companies first. Carbon credits is the next bubble that Wall Street is lining up. Mark my words.
And let me get controversial here, the global warming issue is by no means resolved. I have read that there are many climatologists and metereological specialists who are arguing the opposite.
some of their main points;
-if the ice caps are melting, water levels along the equator would rise and slow down the rotation of the planet.
hasn't happened. and they have instruments that can detect this.
-Earth's temperature is most influenced by cosmic radiation and the solar wind, not green house gases. That is, when the solar wind wanes, cosmic radiation ionizes the atmospheric gasses and traps heat. This is dependent on where our little solar system is in the Milky Way galaxy during any given period in time.
- objective review of shorelines where water levels are said to be rising by the IOCC, have been proven to be areas of tectonic subsidence (where the earth's crust is diving under another plate, slowly). In other words, it's not the water rising but the earth sinking.
there is alot more, people really need to read up on it.

anyway, I really think that windmills are needed, as well as geothermic, solar, tidal and of course nuclear. 3 mile island was a man made problem that derailed nuclear for an entire generation. we really need to re-visit the idea. proper use of nuclear is the true answer to our energy independence.

Posted by: Legion at September 24, 2009 11:15 AM

Benson,
I agree with the main point of your rant wrt Federal regulation and the difficulty of getting things done.
I am more skeptical about the efficacy of wind power given its higher cost and lower reliability relative to other sources. Do you think costs will come down much, or is it still going to require subsidies to compete?

Posted by: etson at September 24, 2009 11:15 AM

Re-writer and Denton;

I picked up on his "cheap suit" because it really did stick out amidst the crowd. I'm telling you, this was one fashionably-dressed crowd!!!

I almost got the feeling that the Texan laid it on think with the drawl just to stick it to them.

Denton, totally agree about the attitude in Texas towards manufacturing and work in general. Recently The Economist predicted that Texas would take over California's former position as the most dynamic state in the country from an economic POV.

Posted by: benson at September 24, 2009 11:15 AM

"Y'all come back now, heahhh?"

Ooooh, now you gone and done it!!!
NOTE: It's a No-No on this blog to write something in an accent.

Denton, go into the Grocery thread and type something out in a Chinese accent.
I DARE YOU!

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 11:16 AM

DIBS comment on the insurance thread ended with:

"Touch wood, I've never had a claim"

More like:

"I touch wood, I've never had a clam"

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 11:22 AM

Etson;

I think the jury is still out regarding wind power. At this point in time, it needs subsidies to compete. I have less of a problem with justifying the susbsidies for a limited amount of time. It could be considered seed money until a true industry is created (including a US-based supply chain). As my rant above, shows, however, I have a BIG problem with leeches who show NO concern for the cost of this power, and just look at it as another pot of gold.

Posted by: benson at September 24, 2009 11:22 AM

That's nice to hear, chicken. Refreshing even. Do you have the dates for your October trip yet? Any chance you'll make it back for Union Hall on the 15th?

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 11:23 AM

Morning All.

Cobble- If you're still frying up bacon I'd like a greasy bacon and fried tomato on white bread sandwich please. I'm feeling particularly English today.

Dave-

"I noticed the What took down all his Faggot posts. Perhaps he took his meds. :("

Simply put, you can't do that kinda stuff on Blogger. If someone flags his blog as having hate speech he's done for (on Blogger at least). Check the section on hate speech.

http://tinyurl.com/y9z2l3a

They make you play nice.

Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 24, 2009 11:24 AM

THL, that sounds even better than plain bacon. Use Dave's fresh tomatoes and throw on some lettuce and I'm set for lunch today.

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 11:27 AM

Interesting, THL. I was wondering why it came down. I was thinking the best in that What may have decided that it was just too over the top but most likely it was flagged and he had to take it down

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 11:29 AM

I brought some of my tomatoes to work for lunch today. Got some leftover buffala mozzarella too. Mmmmmmmm

Went to Sraghina last night. They now have beer and wine. The wine selections are quite reasonable.

I had a bass on soft polenta and the polenta was incredible. Also had spaghetti with calamari & squid ink...very tasty dish.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 11:31 AM

So, What should get his own hosting and blog software so he can say what he wants. Hmm, no skilz?

Posted by: denton at September 24, 2009 11:32 AM

Between this and the grocery thread, I'm drooling...

Posted by: infinitejester at September 24, 2009 11:33 AM

Benson,

I'm with you 1,000%.

One of my favorite things when I go to Palm Springs is looking out over the wind fields as you fly into PSP. They're beautiful!

My folks live on a high bluff right on the Chesapeake Bay about 1.5 miles in from where it meets the ocean. They would love to have those out in their waters.

The objections are ridiculous.

Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 24, 2009 11:35 AM

"That's nice to hear, chicken. Refreshing even. Do you have the dates for your October trip yet? Any chance you'll make it back for Union Hall on the 15th?

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 11:23 AM"

Yes, definitely not the primadonna type and only uses his celebrity to help good causes. All the guys in the office feel slightly inadequate whenever he's around...

Definitely won't be back on the 15th - my boxing match is on the 14th! Plus need to be around while house sale goes through. I'll be there in spirit though. I have a rubber chicken though that I should send to one of you to stand in my place for any events that I can't make.

Posted by: the chicken at September 24, 2009 11:36 AM

"I have a rubber chicken though that I should send to one of you to stand in my place for any events that I can't make"

ROFL. Well, do let us know when you're coming, so we can have drinks. Rumor has it you've been spotted at Sycamore!

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 11:40 AM

The rumour-mill appears to be very old. I was last in there with sixyears in July!

Posted by: the chicken at September 24, 2009 11:44 AM

DIBS, grocery thread pretty mild and nothing for me to add since a few others are represent my Chinatown groceries.

Posted by: more4less at September 24, 2009 11:47 AM

Last week when I did laundry, my bed sheets came out of the dryer very wrinkled.

Do you iron your bedsheets?

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 11:49 AM

m4l, overall it's a VERY boring day here today.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 11:49 AM

chicken, that sounds about right since that's the first time I was there. Great place. And I love the area.

DIBS, why am I not surprised that you were able to weave sex into the grocery store thread?!

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 11:50 AM

"overall it's a VERY boring day here today."

Yes, everybody is checking their emails.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 11:51 AM

Earth's rotation is slowing down because the earth has been losing momentum over billions of years (we have a few billion more before it comes to a complete stop) and the rotation affects the water (and is also affected by the moon). They can and have measured the slowing by atomic clocks and the earth is losing about a second a century (If I remember right). The earth's mantle is always changing because of this and your point about the earth sinking for higher ocean levels questionable. While the tectonic plates slide around as one edge goes down, it is sliding under and lifting another. The land mass isn't changing though so that is not why the ocean levels are rising. And the tectonic plate shifting has been going on since the earth was born. Why should the shifts now be responsible for the rise in sea level? It rises when you put more water into the oceans- by glacial melting. in any case, for the science of the earth slowing down check these links:

pages.prodigy.com/suna/earth.htm

novan.com/earth.htm

www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae695.cfm

www.creation-answers.com/slowing.htm - (for comparison between real and faux science)

members.cox.net/ardipithecus/evol/lies/lie005.html -

Posted by: bxgrl at September 24, 2009 11:51 AM

RW- I'd never iron bedsheets unless I had Elle Decor coming over for a photo shoot.

My trick for smooth sheets is to dry them alone. Usually when you put other items in the dryer they tend to bunch up into a ball and dry crinkled. If they have room to float around they usually come out pretty smooth. Plus they dry much quicker on their lonesome.

Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 24, 2009 11:53 AM

bxgrl, I guess the national debt problem that the democrats are racking up pales in comparison to the issue of when the earth stops rotating!!! :)

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 11:54 AM

Good day all..

Posted by: HOBOKENROCKS at September 24, 2009 11:54 AM

I don't think you want me to chime in on the state of my bedsheets.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 11:55 AM

DIBS give me a play on CHINA Real Estate.. I know you love them chinese stocks..

Posted by: HOBOKENROCKS at September 24, 2009 11:55 AM

Like to inform everyone I have lost 6 lbs... YEA.. From 221 to 215.. Took abouT a month... I got 15 more to go.. I would like to thank everyone who gave me ideas on how to go about losing weight.. I have really benefited from all your ideas..

Posted by: HOBOKENROCKS at September 24, 2009 11:57 AM

We're subsidizng everything else so might as well add wind power to the list.

Posted by: DeLepp at September 24, 2009 11:59 AM

Thanks THL, will try that.
A few things did get bunched up in the sheets and when I untwirled the sheets, the stuff was still damp even after the cycle was over.

I hate looking at wrinkled sheets. How the heck do you iron sheets without them touching the floor while one side is on the ironing board? This will be a test for my patience vs. neatness.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 11:59 AM

Many, Hoboken. Best ones are listed in HK.

Symbols: 16, 688, 1109 & 83 probably the best ones. Some of them have ADRs.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 12:00 PM

"I know you love them chinese stocks.."

Last word is not necessary.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 12:00 PM

Put the ironing board next to a table or chair and drape the sheet over that.

HOBOKEN that ROCKS!

Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 24, 2009 12:01 PM

DIBS are you playing any...

Posted by: HOBOKENROCKS at September 24, 2009 12:03 PM

"I don't think you want me to chime in on the state of my bedsheets."

I didn't ask what state you're in when you're 'chiming' on your bedsheets.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 12:04 PM

Send your best sheets to the cleaners.. Cost a bit though.. Made my wife happier..

Posted by: HOBOKENROCKS at September 24, 2009 12:04 PM

oh crap - the talk about sheets just made me realise that mine have been in the dryer for 3 days....

Posted by: the chicken at September 24, 2009 12:04 PM

dibs- actually it pales in comparison to the one the Republicans left us with :-)

Posted by: bxgrl at September 24, 2009 12:06 PM

HOBO, great news on the weight loss. Keep it going! You'll feel even better when you hit your target.
(TWSS)

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 12:07 PM

thanks biff.. I have got a cold so I am expecting to lose another lb or so.. LOL

Posted by: HOBOKENROCKS at September 24, 2009 12:09 PM

"oh crap - the talk about sheets just made me realise that mine have been in the dryer for 3 days...."

My guezz is you'll need to iron them now.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 12:09 PM

"DIBS are you playing any... "

Do you really need to ask? DIBS is always playing the Chinese.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 12:10 PM

DIBS is an expert on all CHINESE...Got to go.. Take care all.. Wife's bday... Gotta run out to get some goodies...CAKE BOSS HERE I COME...

Posted by: HOBOKENROCKS at September 24, 2009 12:13 PM

"CAKE BOSS HERE I COME"

Oh NO, there's goes the diet!
Only have one small slice. Bring the leftover cake here tomorrow.
Enjoy the day, HOBOKEN

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 12:17 PM

HOBOKEN, that's great news. Keep it going.

Re writer, get a steamer. You can steam your sheets. I should be a spokesman for those things by now.

Posted by: Kensingtonian at September 24, 2009 12:18 PM

No, Hoboken, we don't own any right now. Not for any particularly strong reason though.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 12:20 PM

bxgrl,
the argument is that with rising sea levels, equatorial water would increase away from the solid ice caps. The water would slow the earth's rotation as analagous to an ice skater stretching out their arms while doing a spin. Your argument that the earth's spin is slowing may be true but this is already factored in, the Earth's slowing rotation as a function of time is understood. What we are talking about is a detectable and quite prominent slowing that would be expected on the graphs if water levels were indeed rising throughout the planet. That spike in the graph has not been detected.
as far as the coastal areas of flooding, one place in particular which is pointed to by global warming proponents is the areas surrounding Hong Kong, the climatologists who were making the study understood this to be an area of subsidence but still included the data to support their claim to rising sea levels.
do a google search and check this out for yourself. there is a great deal of politics behind this global warming, too much for comfort.
I recently saw one respected meterologist on television speaking to the issue of global warming and I have to say he is quite convincing, against the idea. The guy's name is Bastardi and he's always on the weather channel about hurricanes. He was showing a graph on how one would expect the strength of hurricanes to increase with global warming. In fact, over the past 10 years, he argues, the sum of global hurricane strength has decreased.
I'm not saying I am the expert in this, but there is enough expert testimony out there by well regarded scientists to punch large holes in the global warming theory, at least with respect to it being a man-made phenomenon.

Posted by: Legion at September 24, 2009 12:23 PM

HR, you shorting? I keep hearing about a Chinese RE bubble.

Posted by: denton at September 24, 2009 12:23 PM

"You can steam your sheets."

Um, my sex life isn't that active.
Is there a machine I can use that will do the trick.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 12:29 PM

Google email service disrupted. Check your email.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 12:29 PM

Denton, there IS a chinese RE bubble - about to be pricked

Posted by: the chicken at September 24, 2009 12:29 PM

There's been a Chinese RE bubble since 1993. Betting it'll get pricked soon is not a bet that I will take.

I like the Hong Kong office market a lot more...Hongkong Land is the best play and it has a 3.2% yield. HKHGF

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 12:33 PM

bxgrl,
the argument is that with rising sea levels, equatorial water would increase away from the solid ice caps. The water would slow the earth's rotation as analagous to an ice skater stretching out their arms while doing a spin. Your argument that the earth's spin is slowing may be true but this is already factored in, the Earth's slowing rotation as a function of time is understood. What we are talking about is a detectable and quite prominent slowing that would be expected on the graphs if water levels were indeed rising throughout the planet. That spike in the graph has not been detected.
as far as the coastal areas of flooding, one place in particular which is pointed to by global warming proponents is the areas surrounding Hong Kong, the climatologists who were making the study understood this to be an area of subsidence but still included the data to support their claim to rising sea levels.
do a google search and check this out for yourself. there is a great deal of politics behind this global warming, too much for comfort.
I recently saw one respected meterologist on television speaking to the issue of global warming and I have to say he is quite convincing, against the idea. The guy's name is Bastardi and he's always on the weather channel about hurricanes. He was showing a graph on how one would expect the strength of hurricanes to increase with global warming. In fact, over the past 10 years, he argues, the sum of global hurricane strength has decreased.
I'm not saying I am the expert in this, but there is enough expert testimony out there by well regarded scientists to punch large holes in the global warming theory, at least with respect to it being a man-made phenomenon.

Posted by: Legion at September 24, 2009 12:35 PM

"about to be pricked"

Who's about to be pricked?

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 12:41 PM

"There's been a Chinese RE bubble since 1993. Betting it'll get pricked soon is not a bet that I will take.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 12:33 PM"


The point of bubbles is that, once they go beyond a reasonable/rational valuation, they continue growing unabated. If something was fairly/under-valued and then becomes 100% over-valued then it must have gone through the point where it was 50% over-valued (otherwise we would never have bubbles).

My point is that something needs to happen to pop those bubbles and bring things down - either a proactive event (eg Lehmans going under) or lack of momentum (eg no more qualified buyers).

My bet is that the chinese RE bubble bursts in the next 12 months. I don't know what factor is going to cause it but I think there are enough potential things that could happen that one, or a combination of them, will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

Posted by: the chicken at September 24, 2009 12:44 PM

Yawn...

Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 24, 2009 12:45 PM

THL, they're all over in the grocery store thread.

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 12:56 PM

Which aisle???

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 12:57 PM

"Yawn..."

THL, here you go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fp67geuhJM&feature=related

Note: Crude language, but one of the funniest men ever!

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 1:00 PM

There better be a really great HOTD today. This is soooo boring today that I'm thinking of committing blogicide.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 1:00 PM

Hola again asshats :-) How's it hangin'?

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 1:00 PM

OMG, did anyone see this GIANT baby that was born? He's picture here next to an average baby.

Dear god in heaven do NOT let this be my fate!!!


http://tinyurl.com/y9glypn

Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 24, 2009 1:03 PM

today has been so ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ here that I ask the dude here that I'll do some more job training with him after lunch

Posted by: more4less at September 24, 2009 1:03 PM

eddie Murphy is soooo gay.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 1:03 PM

dibs,
didn't he get caught fondling somebody's toes?

Posted by: Legion at September 24, 2009 1:05 PM

That's not an infant, that's a damned toddler!!! OUCH! I'll bet his mother needed a zipper after that delivery ;-)

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 1:08 PM

In the news, have a lap dance with your latte:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33003900/ns/us_news-weird_news/

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 1:08 PM

"eddie Murphy is soooo gay."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYNDVaPrTMs&feature=fvw

His Gay Bit
Note: Major use of the f-words (f*ck & f*gg*t)

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 1:09 PM

Not sure about that one, Legion but he was pulled over by a cop and had a tranny in the car with him.

What's the name of Eddie Murphy's next movie??

"Driving Miss Davey"

was the joke back then.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 1:10 PM

CGar...The "Grab-And-Go Espresso Bar"

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 1:12 PM

Legion- actually, read this- http://image.gsfc.nasa.gov/poetry/ask/a11608.html. its atmosphere that can change the speed of the earth's rotation. and when the rotation was faster in the past, the earth was oblate, not as round as it is becoming. Ocean water concentrated in the equatorial region and so the arctic seas are shallower. (novan.com/earth.htm).

Posted by: bxgrl at September 24, 2009 1:13 PM

Hey nothing wrong with Trannies! For some people it take more than a woman to please them.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 1:14 PM

Legion, how often do you read Nature or Science. To be clear - I'm trying to get some idea of what you mean by "well-regarded scientist".

Posted by: dittoburg at September 24, 2009 1:15 PM

I don't think the Hong Kong real estate bubble is going to burst anytime soon. It dipped a bit last December after the financial crisis, but it is back up again (and a friend of mine who bought investment property in January has already made 20% on his well-timed buy).

But a couple of factors make Hong Kong property an unusual situation. First is that there's inflated demand from mainland Chinese looking for ways to launder their money. HK is one of the world's biggest money laundering centers!

The second factor is that the Hong Kong government owns all the land, and sale is by leasehold. Hong Kong has low taxes, so the bulk of its operating costs come from the land "sales". The government treats its land like the Arabs treat their oil, releasing only as much as the market will bear, and thus keeping property values artificially inflated.

Posted by: WonTon at September 24, 2009 1:16 PM

I return to Hong Kong next week. I'm planning to bring you an occasional "HOTD" report. Or, actually, a "FOTD" (Flat of the Day). It might be amusing for you PLUSAs to see what kind of bang your buck gets in a similar-but-different global city.

Posted by: WonTon at September 24, 2009 1:17 PM

"Yawn"- now you guys know how some of us feel when you're talking about Real Housewives of NY, NJ, Atlanta, Podunk... :-) (Or about dave's sex life) ;)

A good cat discussion should liven things up!

Posted by: bxgrl at September 24, 2009 1:18 PM

snapperetta,

Any new pics of Hari?

Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 24, 2009 1:18 PM


That's a great shot, THL!

Even the baby on the left is looking over like "WTF??"

Posted by: East New York at September 24, 2009 1:18 PM

WONTon- will you be here for the Oct. 15 award ceremonies?

Posted by: bxgrl at September 24, 2009 1:20 PM

No new ones yet THL. I'm working on a photobook of him and Pia.

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 1:20 PM

Great idea WonTon...these people will be flabergasted at HK prices!!!!!

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 1:21 PM

No, 'fraid not (waaah!). The ticket's bought, the subtenant moves in on October 1st.

I'll be back in around 5 months, though.

Posted by: WonTon at September 24, 2009 1:21 PM

dittoburg,
As usual, a loaded question. But I will respond.
I read scientific journals all the time, in fact I can claim a publication or two myself. Peer reviewed, no less. So let's not go there, please.
Again, read the arguments from the scientists themselves then get back to me.
Counter the arguments I've listed and I am willing to listen.
By the way, I have a home 900 feet from the Atlantic so, I am deeply concerned and involved with this issue of sea level rising.

Posted by: Legion at September 24, 2009 1:22 PM

Cute Hari story though...he showered with me yesterday! While I was scrub-a-dub-dubbing, he jumped in with me. I expected him to hop right back out upon getting wet, but he was having too much fun chasing body wash bubbles from the back of the tub to the front where the drain is. There was a lot of slipping and sliding and squealing, but he enjoyed himself. He was due for another bath anyway so I didn't kick him out.

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 1:22 PM

LOL! I guess he's gotten used to the water then.

Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 24, 2009 1:25 PM

I suppose so...or at least the trick is to bathe him while I'm in the shower! I guess even kittens can't resist bubbles :-)

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 1:28 PM

", in fact I can claim a publication or two myself. Peer reviewed, no less."

I'd like to know about non-peer reviewed journals..!


As you know from our previous conversation regarding your divine spark theory, I was previously a lab scientist, publish-or-die of course, and I can't say appealing to your own resume is an indication that I should not question your characterization of "well-regarded scientists".

The scientific consensus is clear, please don't confuse earth's warming and cooling cycles with the additional matter of climate change caused by humans.

Posted by: dittoburg at September 24, 2009 1:30 PM

To give you an idea...the flat I rent in Hong Kong is smaller than the one I own in Brooklyn. It is about 500 square feet (it's rated larger, because in Hong Kong developers can count all sorts of things--common space, hallways, even elevator shafts--as part of the "space.")

The 500 square feet is cut into a LR and TWO(!!) BRs. It was built in 1994 so it's not a "new" building (new construction is the most desirable in HK--buildings aren't built to last). Location is the most desirable area of downtown (SoHo), right next to the Midlevels escalator. Roughly analagous to the heart of Greenwich Village.

The last I looked, this baby was selling for 3.5 million Hong Kong dollars, or about $455,000. I would never pay that amount for a place like this. You be the judge...here's some pix:
http://tinyurl.com/y8cjaqk

Posted by: WonTon at September 24, 2009 1:34 PM

TTOTD!

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 1:50 PM

oooops, I meant
TKOTD!

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 1:51 PM

dittoburg,
and if you will recall, our conversation on "divine spark", you left it admitting that there was indeed microvoltage needed to initiate cellular division in animal cloning. The "divine" question is left to the interpreter. Unless you know who is initiating this spark, I would say you are just as much in the dark as the rest of humanity.

as far as "non-peer" reviewed journals, there are many out there, we can play semantics all day in which I will describe a peer reviewed journal is one in which a manuscript is submitted by the investigator and reviewed by colleagues before publication while a non-peer reviewed journal is one in which a scientific writer reports on findings and trends in science.
...but still, you go there and we'll play our game of patty cake.

The consensus is far from clear my friend. In fact, it is the warming and cooling cycles of the Earth that is in question. The IPCC (International Panel for Climate Control) has cherry picked data to match their contention. Look up one respected scientist's opinion on this (Pielke).
The reasons I have stated in my previous posts are based in solid science and physics, not in a cracker jack box.

I've also stated that there is a distinction between man made global warming and normal cycles.
I'm still on the fence about whether or not the Earth is truly warming, but if it is, It is not likely to be man made. Why? because Mars has shown some recent warming trends without our human help.

Posted by: Legion at September 24, 2009 1:51 PM

THL, I hope that mother of that giant baby had a c-section cause that's one massive head to try to push out out out OUCHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: more4less at September 24, 2009 1:52 PM

That's amazing, Snappy. He looked like pitiful on a stick when we were giving him flea baths. He would tremble like death was staring him in the face, and he worked it for hours. I bet he's just too cute now.

Posted by: Montrose Morris at September 24, 2009 1:53 PM

"pitiful on a stick"

ROFL! He still looks like that when he's soaking wet, but this time he had fun with it :-) He really seems to enjoy the after-bath towel rubbing to get him dry. I wrap him in a hand towel (that's the biggest I need since he's so wee) and rub him vigorously. He purrs and coos and just doesn't want it to end.

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 1:57 PM

No kidding M4L!

I'm wondering though if he was severely overdue or just a freaky giant birth that was during the normal gestation period?

Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 24, 2009 2:00 PM

LOL, the wee wet wonder.

Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 24, 2009 2:01 PM

Doesn't gestational diabetes also cause super large babies?

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 2:02 PM

Yea, but I didn't think they could get THIS big!

Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 24, 2009 2:04 PM

Legion, no mystery about any alleged microvoltage required, there is none required. Its simple enthalpy issues.

As for non-peer reviewed journals - I assume you must mean you published in Scientific American.... Your self-congratulations that your articles were peer-reviewed is nonsensical, its de rigueur for any serious publication.

As for the climate change consensus, you know what the consenus is. But you like to style yourselves with the "independent thinkers", the mavericks, no? It all goes back to your God-of-the-gaps approach.

I'm not going to waste as much time today on this as (we both did) previously as I'm sure we both got better things to do. I'm sure we'd both agree that one must not stop questioning, but the god-of-the-gaps approach does nothing useful.

Now let me re-read respected Duesberg's theory as to why HIV clearly doesn't cause AIDS.

Posted by: dittoburg at September 24, 2009 2:05 PM

THL, I'll be praying that your wee one is..well...wee!

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 2:06 PM

bxgrl,
that's part of the argument that is factored into the current debate.
If the ice caps melted significantly in the past 20 years, for instance, the volume of water in liquid form added to the oceans would have a noticable and somewhat immediate effect on the Earth's rotational rate, regardless of the understood steady decrease in rotation with time.
We are talking about a very short time period in Earth's history, the past 20-50 years, if significant polar water melted into the oceans it would be detectable as a slowing of the earth's spin in that time period, well differentiated from historical trends over millions of years.

Posted by: Legion at September 24, 2009 2:07 PM

Me too!

Ugh, last night I was trying to get a baking dish out of the cabinet and I wasn't paying really close attention cause a 12'' round Pyrex lid to come sliding out. It fell onto the granite counter-top and turned into glass crumbs. It was like I shot it at close range.

I had glass everywhere. It completely covered the entire kitchen and even shot out clear through to the far wall in the dining room. I spent 4 hours last night carefully sweeping then vacuuming then wiping down with wet paper towels every freaking inch of my kitchen.

Oh how I cried!

The cats were crying too, I had them all locked in various rooms upstairs as I cleaned. I chased the whole brood up and then closed every door.

Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 24, 2009 2:12 PM

Seems to be something interesting being discussed. Maybe I can read it later. Tylenol, water, no loud noises please. Last night I put a thief in my mouth to steal my brains.

Posted by: lechacal at September 24, 2009 2:12 PM

so....

who watched Top Chef last night?

Posted by: Legion at September 24, 2009 2:14 PM

That sucks THL. My favorite skillet lid met a similar fate. Someone I hate talking to called me one day while I was trying to cook and the lid fell out of my hands while trying to hold on to that, the phone and a spatula. I was ANGRY! I have found though that Pyrex brand baking dishes refuse to break. I've dropped those things so many times, including on concrete (what a terrible night that was...peach cobbler all over University Place in the Village) and it doesn't even crack.

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 2:18 PM

GOT A HEADACHE LECHACAL? LEMME PLAY SOME BONGOS FOR YA! :-)

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 2:19 PM

Normally it doesn't I have a bunch with a few chips around the rims but I don't remember breaking any.

I must have hit it 'just so' because when i tell you it shattered...I didn't find one piece of it that was bigger than a pinky finger nail. Pulverized.

Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 24, 2009 2:21 PM

Wonderful story about the shower, Snappy!
THL, babies start to lose weight when they're seriously overdue.
Corning/Pyrex used to be a client of mine - so many people have their grandparents' stuff they started to branch out to new designs & cookware. The stuff's nearly indestructable.

Posted by: Arkady at September 24, 2009 2:23 PM

Last night I put a thief in my mouth to steal my brains.

Posted by: lechacal at September 24, 2009 2:12 PM


Hmmm, let me think on this for a moment.


I just made an ass of myself in the HOTD because I mixed up Putnam with hancock because I thought the house was on Hancock because it looks exactly like one I looked at.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 2:24 PM

Damn! That is pulverized. Must have hit a true tension point in the glass. Have you ever used silicone baking products? I've been wondering about those because of the ease of removing things like muffins, etc. from them, but worry that there may be something we don't know yet about silicone leaching into the food.

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 2:24 PM

Legion- according to NASA scientists who have been measuring this, El Nino caused a slowing of the earth's rotation because it is the earth's atmosphere that can and does affect the rotation. If the placement of water made the earth slow down, you would have it every day with the tides. The deepest water is at the equator- driven there when the rotation was fastest. It did not slow down the earth's rotation.

Well, enuff said- just want to thank you and Ditto- the science stuff is fascinating and I wanted to thank you both for 2 great debates so far.

Posted by: bxgrl at September 24, 2009 2:25 PM

"The stuff's nearly indestructable."

Yeah. After dropping the pyrex on University Place and it not cracking or breaking, I decided right then and there that I would never by another non-Pyrex item.

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 2:26 PM

anyone catch "modern family" last night, very funny.

Posted by: DeLepp at September 24, 2009 2:26 PM

How to make money by doing business in Iraq:

I'm sure you can get cheap knick knacks made for very little at some underutilized Iraqi factory. So:

1. Get a ton of cheap little trinkets that would appeal to midwesterners made. Real Americana but not in a way that would be obvious to the people making it.

2. Have "made in a free Iraq" stamped on the back.

3. Overprice and sell to people in middle America who will get a stiffie when they read the "made in a free Iraq" caption.

I absolutely guarantee that you can make many millions of dollars doing this.

Anyone want in?

Posted by: lechacal at September 24, 2009 2:27 PM

I do use silicone but mostly just the tools like spatulas and the like. I never got any baking pans.

Although...my mom introduced me to Silpats many years ago and I don't have a baking sheet that doesn't have an accompanying one. They are incredible. I even blogged about them:

http://townhouselady.blogspot.com/2009/04/silpat.html

Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 24, 2009 2:29 PM

"Anyone want in?"

I have a 'semi' just thinking of the limitless possibilities.

Posted by: dirty_hipster at September 24, 2009 2:30 PM

DeLepp- YES! We laughed SO hard. When the guy came out and raised the baby over his head I swear I almost did a lemonade spit-take.

Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 24, 2009 2:31 PM

THL, I just clicked on your link and QTip started playing...I am totally couch dancing right now! LOVE THIS SONG!

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 2:32 PM

dittoburg,

if you think that microvoltage is not needed in the cloning process, you obviously haven't read the literature. enough said.

as far as my "god of the gaps" approach, you are taking me far too literally as usual. I have a playful and sometimes poetic approach to many larger questions in life which is sometimes interpreted as literal by folks like yourself who simply want to discredit a curious mind. When I mentioned "God is in the details" in a previous discussion we had regarding subatomic theory. I was playing on several themes at once, first the well known quote that "God is in the details", refers to the fact that what we human's have always ascribed to unknown forces and unknowable subtleties a godlike power, many times making these very concerns into gods like Apollo or Poseidon. As a modern allegory, the ideas being worked out in particle physics point towards a probabilistic universe in which anything is indeed possible, where our typical reality and it's laws no longer exist. Hence my statement that "God can be found in those gaps".
The "God of the gaps" approach is quite useful in that it at least poses a possibility rather than a humorless void, which is apparently your choice.
Lighten up, read Steppenwolf, Hesse had it right. Harry Haller's problem was that he couldn't see the humor in it all.
Trade in your peer reviewed journal for a Mad magazine once in a while.

Posted by: Legion at September 24, 2009 2:35 PM

"I just made an ass of myself in the HOTD"

And I just made an ass of myself in the HOTD because I can't read a floorplan!

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 2:36 PM

thl, that was inspired and I'm encouraged by the number of new comedies this year. The scene in black and white with the plump boyfriend in the pantry was a hoot as well.

Posted by: DeLepp at September 24, 2009 2:36 PM

For those not venturing over to the HOTD, QOTD, DIBS:

"It seems the two fags are confused today. One can't get his stories straight and the other needs to walk the streets more often."

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 2:37 PM

Ok...I had to hit play on the song so I could dance away to it again. Thank you for that! Whoo! Allrighty...I'm off to get some sausage (No, Dave, not *that* kind of sausage!). Later peeps!

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 2:39 PM

I think Glass does develop faults over time- especially something like a baking dish. It can be very weird- like Prince Rupert's drops.

Posted by: bxgrl at September 24, 2009 2:39 PM

"Anyone want in?"

Lech, I told you yesterday to sign me up, I'm BORED. But I think "Made in Occupied Iraq" will be more valuable. You ever see what stuff marked "Made in Occupied Japan" or "Made in Germany U.S. Zone" goes for?

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 2:40 PM

"The "God of the gaps" approach is quite useful in that it at least poses a possibility rather than a humorless void, which is apparently your choice.
Lighten up, read Steppenwolf, Hesse had it right. Harry Haller's problem was that he couldn't see the humor in it all.
Trade in your peer reviewed journal for a Mad magazine once in a while."

Jeez- I love this stuff! I feel like an observer at a really exciting tennis match and my head keeps going from side to side- ditto- the ball's in your court. :-) (science is sexy!)

Posted by: bxgrl at September 24, 2009 2:43 PM

not much action over on asshathill today. and why do you suppose he took down all the posts from yesterday? DIBS, did ypu threaten to sue?

Posted by: randolph at September 24, 2009 2:44 PM

"I just made an ass of myself in the HOTD"

And I just made an ass of myself in the HOTD because I can't read a floorplan!
- Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 2:36 PM


Carroll & Dave, glad to see the two asses come head to head.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 2:44 PM

Awesome, there's also some good Mos Def, Eddy Grant (Electric Avenue), Musical Youth (Pass the Dutchie), and Neneh Cherry (Buffalo Stance).

Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 24, 2009 2:44 PM

Have you ventured over to the HOTD thread Re Writer? There's a poster over there who has many traits not so dissimilar from your own.

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 2:46 PM

DeLepp,

How about the little boy romeo? I was melting inside. He was deliciously adorable.

"Sir, Mall walkers stay to the right please!"

Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 24, 2009 2:48 PM

cgar, I've got smith and ackerman binoculars made in occupied japan, very cool.

Posted by: DeLepp at September 24, 2009 2:50 PM

anyone catch "modern family" last night, very funny.

Posted by: DeLepp at September 24, 2009 2:26 PM


DeLepp, loved it! My friend is married to the guy who plays the "cool" dad. He's not that funny in real life.

Posted by: bitter retort at September 24, 2009 2:53 PM

Carroll I've read the HOTD.
I don't think I'm confused, if that's what you're alluding to.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 2:53 PM

DeLepp, my mother had a "Made in Occupied Japan" tea service and some china, which I gave to a friend after she died. I kept some great items "Made in Occupied Germany - U.S. Zone" though.

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 2:54 PM

You know who has a sweet ride? Obama. Man, that's a sweet ride.

Posted by: lechacal at September 24, 2009 2:54 PM

thl, "Sir, Mall walkers stay to the right please!"

that was a riot. Romeo in the back seat was a hoot. I just remember his expression which was priceless. That fact he went to pick daisies made it even better.

Posted by: DeLepp at September 24, 2009 2:55 PM

WTF- Why the face?

I roared.

Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 24, 2009 2:55 PM

"You know who has a sweet ride? Obama. Man, that's a sweet ride."

How dare you talk about the First Lady like that!

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 2:56 PM

What? She's a very sweet lady. What's wrong with that?

Posted by: lechacal at September 24, 2009 2:57 PM

Well, once my husband saw Sofia Vergara (Gloria) was on the show he was fine with watching it!

Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 24, 2009 2:58 PM

It was a joke, Lech.
Sorry didn't mean to intimidate you.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 2:59 PM

br, I hope it stays on despite being on the same time as "glee"

There was a new york society hostess who said comics/comedians were not good dinner table company.

Posted by: DeLepp at September 24, 2009 2:59 PM

I tried watching Glee. It wasn't my cup of tea but I can certainly see it's appeal in the wake of the success of High School Musical (which I happen to know all the songs and dances to- NOT).

Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 24, 2009 3:03 PM

"Carroll I've read the HOTD.
I don't think I'm confused, if that's what you're alluding to."

Re Writer, I don't think you're at all confused. Though we haven't been formally (or even informally) introduced, I'd say you're clever, witty, approachable, and, it goes without saying, a superb (re) writer.

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 3:03 PM

There was a new york society hostess who said comics/comedians were not good dinner table company.

Posted by: DeLepp at September 24, 2009 2:59 PM


Did you ever see the Barefoot Contessa episode where she had Mel brooks for dinner. He was really annoying and obnoxious.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 3:07 PM

I was going to volunteer to be the Director of Marketing for Lechacal Industries' new business venture, but when I read Dirty's post, I changed my mind.

Lech, I have one word for you: PUNCH.

Posted by: brighton beoch at September 24, 2009 3:07 PM

Those boys love their punch.

Posted by: bitter retort at September 24, 2009 3:09 PM

Bitter had lunch with M. Obama today. She is too shy to tell anyone.

Posted by: brighton beoch at September 24, 2009 3:09 PM

vulcan mind meld, bitter.

Posted by: brighton beoch at September 24, 2009 3:10 PM

Whoa! Seriously beoch. Bitter do tell! So impressive and cool.

Posted by: wasder at September 24, 2009 3:10 PM

Beoch, speaking of lunch, did you get my package?

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 3:11 PM

Aaaah gee shucks Carroll, that's sweet.
[hands behind back, left foot turned inward, head lowered, eyes raised, bating eyes]

If you weren't married to bx'2timing'grl, I'd blogawed you myself.

btw, I'm also friendly.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 3:11 PM

whiskey tango foxtrot

Posted by: dirty_hipster at September 24, 2009 3:12 PM

dibs, I would imagine that as being painful to watch. I don't think many of them like to share the spotlight.

Posted by: DeLepp at September 24, 2009 3:14 PM

She's being silly.

I was at a restaurant across the street from where she was having lunch, it was still pretty cool to see her. Kind of crazy the whole procession and shutting down the street.

Posted by: bitter retort at September 24, 2009 3:15 PM

"Bitter had lunch with M. Obama today. She is too shy to tell anyone."
Well Beoch, do tell. You don't seem to be the shy one.
How exciting.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 3:16 PM

bitter, did you retort at the table???

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 3:17 PM

"She's being silly."

Is that the first time?

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 3:17 PM

I'm having another chat on silverdaddies with a guy who wants me to call him puta and all other sorts of nastiness. i hope I don't get these screens confused and call any of you something I might regret.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 3:19 PM

who is re writer?

Posted by: dirty_hipster at September 24, 2009 3:19 PM

DIBS, Did not retort at the table, instead I told her to check her email.

Posted by: bitter retort at September 24, 2009 3:23 PM

Speaking of sightings...

When I went to Washington DC on Tuesday, I took the 7.00 AM US Airways Shuttle from LaGuardia. Senator Schumer was on the flight. Even more heartening, he was sitting in coach!! I was heartened to see my Senator sitting among us common folk. He was reading all the day's papers: Times, WSJ, the News and the Post.

Posted by: benson at September 24, 2009 3:25 PM

Bitter, I'm seeing 110%. How is that possible?

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 3:26 PM

benson, he was in my office lobby on Monday. Some fundraiser.. He is a TALL guy.

Posted by: bitter retort at September 24, 2009 3:27 PM

Can I design the tchotchkes? I can do tacky and cheesy!

Posted by: bxgrl at September 24, 2009 3:28 PM

Biff, we all try and give 110% at work. Humidity, not possible. Although there is such a phenomenon as supersaturation.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 3:28 PM

paws OFF my man! Re writer or you'll be using a chopstick held in your teeth to type at a keyboard :-)

Posted by: bxgrl at September 24, 2009 3:29 PM

"btw, I'm also friendly."

So, sorry, Re Writer, yes, you are very friendly. And, upon further reflection, I'd add smart, charming, passionate, endearing, caring, charismatic and amiable. Were I certain you're of the female persuasion, I'd likely add beautiful and sexy to the laundry list.

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 3:30 PM

benson,

I know several people who take the shuttle from time to time and they have all seen him. He hangs out in coach and schmoozes a lot.

Posted by: slopefarm at September 24, 2009 3:31 PM

"Although there is such a phenomenon as supersaturation."

DIBS, PLEASE stop talking about bukkake!

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 3:31 PM

"btw, I'm also friendly."

So, sorry, Re Writer, yes, you are very friendly. And, upon further reflection, I'd add smart, charming, passionate, endearing, caring, charismatic and amiable. Were I certain you're of the female persuasion, I'd likely add beautiful and sexy to the laundry list.

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 3:30 PM


Come on CGar, for all we know she could look like Alice The Goon.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 3:31 PM

dibs is S.M. art.

Posted by: bitter retort at September 24, 2009 3:32 PM

"Senator Schumer was on the flight. Even more heartening, he was sitting in coach!! I was heartened to see my Senator sitting among us common folk"

Senator Schumer was at one of the free Williamsburg 'pool party' concerts I was at during the summer. He was cool - talking to all the kids, chillin and bobbin his head to the music.

Posted by: dirty_hipster at September 24, 2009 3:32 PM

dibs is S.M. art.

Posted by: bitter retort at September 24, 2009 3:32 PM


I've bet you've used a cat'o nine tails a few time yourself, bitter.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 3:33 PM

"He hangs out in coach and schmoozes a lot."

Charles Schmoozer.

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 3:33 PM

"who is re writer?"

DH, I have no clue, and it's not for lack of trying to figure it out, but s/he's been engaging me for days now, so, I figure, wtf.

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 3:35 PM

Netanyahu really blasted Ahnadinejad during his UN address.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 3:36 PM

I have a feeling that re writer is expert textpert.

Posted by: benson at September 24, 2009 3:37 PM

dibs, cannot confirm or deny.

biff, it's holding steady at a decent 48%.

brighton, WOOho.

Posted by: bitter retort at September 24, 2009 3:40 PM

Thanks Bitter, I forgot to divide by two and subtract seven.

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 3:42 PM

"who is re writer?"

"I have a feeling that re writer is expert textpert."

Who's expert textpert?

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 3:46 PM

"paws OFF my man! Re writer or you'll be using a chopstick held in your teeth to type at a keyboard :-)"

bxgrl, no worries, we haven't even reached the "gender verification" stage yet.

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 3:47 PM

Biff, you vomiting yet?

Posted by: bitter retort at September 24, 2009 3:48 PM

For al we know, Re Writer could be that tranny randi.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 3:49 PM

Re Writer, dave's cat'o nine tails got your tongue?

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 3:50 PM

Bitter, I've barfed, chundered, did the technicolor yawn, gagged, got sick, heaved, hurled, regurgitated, retched, spewed, spit up, threw up, toss my cookies, upchucked, blew grits, blew lunch, brought up, disgorged, drove a truck, prayed to the porcelain god, puked, and ralphed.

CG_ups would be proud.

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 3:53 PM

"Biff, you vomiting yet?"

And at what percentage.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 3:53 PM

Uh oh, I just horked as well.

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 3:55 PM

Vomiting talk is sooooo childish. Can we keep this thread to the grown-up civil standards that we normally enjoy.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 3:55 PM

lol, bitter. just spit coffee. thanks v. much.

Posted by: brighton beoch at September 24, 2009 3:56 PM

DIBS, I was civilized in the "The City Spurs Grocery Stores to Underserved" thread. Why don't you give your thoughts on providing fruit to the underserved?

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 3:57 PM

i just ralphed.

Posted by: dirty_hipster at September 24, 2009 3:58 PM

You mean like a banana???

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 3:58 PM

Biff, check your trash can.

Posted by: brighton beoch at September 24, 2009 3:59 PM

I just did, beoch. There's an empty Godiva box in it. Our assistant had a lunch date yesterday and this guy gave her a LARGE box of Godiva. I finished the last piece off after I had my tomatoes.

Has anyone had your tomatoes lately???

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 4:01 PM

"Biff, check your trash can."

Yikes, I need a second one right about now.

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 4:01 PM

CHECK THE CLOSING BELL PHOTO, FOLKS.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 4:02 PM

Dirty, sounds like you need to check your trash can as well.

Posted by: brighton beoch at September 24, 2009 4:02 PM

are all these alias ID's votes counted toward the balloting or do they need to pass the Biff ID and gender verification before they're eligible to vote?

Posted by: more4less at September 24, 2009 4:03 PM

Lots of horking going on over at Death Star?

Posted by: brighton beoch at September 24, 2009 4:04 PM

m4l & wonTon, check your lop sup.

etson check your dust bin.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 4:05 PM

"Biff, check your trash can."

"I just did, beoch."

Oh Dave, you silly goose. Don't you see, it's all an inside joke. You (along with many here) obviously aren't on the email list.
Count your blessings.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 4:05 PM

Every vote for me is a vote for a free drink for you (by way of my future bartender friend at wherever the next gathering is)

Posted by: dirty_hipster at September 24, 2009 4:06 PM

Every vote for me is a vote for a free drink for you (by way of my future bartender friend at wherever the next gathering is)

Posted by: dirty_hipster at September 24, 2009 4:06 PM

Beoch, only in my office. Check your sweater drawer.

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 4:07 PM

you can say that again, Dirty.

Posted by: brighton beoch at September 24, 2009 4:07 PM

I guess it's two-for-one.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 4:08 PM

DH, do we get two drinks now for every vote for you since you posted it twice?

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 4:08 PM

Would anyone like to check my nightstand drawer????

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 4:08 PM

my bad.

Posted by: dirty_hipster at September 24, 2009 4:09 PM

DH, you own 25 drinks. put you for every category except the one you asked all of us to NOT vote you for

Posted by: more4less at September 24, 2009 4:10 PM

I just burped salad dressing.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 4:10 PM

302?

Posted by: more4less at September 24, 2009 4:10 PM

Jinx.

Darn you, daveinbedstuy!

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 4:10 PM

"who is re writer?"

"DH, I have no clue, and it's not for lack of trying to figure it out, but s/he's been engaging me for days now, so, I figure, wtf."

Actually, r w has dropped a few clues lately, perhaps inadvertently. Some of us long-time PLUSAs know or ought to know. I am pretty sure I know. If I'm right, r w was at most of the early get togethers under a previous nom de guerre, was at Ellis incognito (no, not Adam), and was, in fact, a big re-writer under a previous login. Biff will have to feign ignorance but I am sure he knows I am right about this.

Posted by: slopefarm at September 24, 2009 4:11 PM

"Would anyone like to check my nightstand drawer????"

Not without a hazmat suit and safety goggles.

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 4:11 PM

C Gar- I am here, you know. And SHE talks about me two-timing?

Posted by: bxgrl at September 24, 2009 4:13 PM

slopefarm, no doubt. for me, I'll only engage if said person signs in via original ID

Posted by: more4less at September 24, 2009 4:13 PM

haha uh oh - looks like my plan is backfiring m4L!!

i should have put in the fine print 'offer only valid on days that don't end in y'

Posted by: dirty_hipster at September 24, 2009 4:14 PM

"Biff will have to feign ignorance"

I'm extremely good at acting ignorant.
It comes quite naturally to me, in fact.

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 4:15 PM

Biff, check your email.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 4:15 PM

bxgrl, did you NOT see my reply to YOUR post?

slopefarm, Adam was at Ellis incognito??

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 4:15 PM

Slopefarm;

Bull's eye. I agree 100%.

Posted by: benson at September 24, 2009 4:17 PM

"Biff, check your email."

DIBS, that joke is getting sooooo stale.

Oh wait, you really DID send me something...

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 4:20 PM

"and was, in fact, a big re-writer under a previous login. Biff will have to feign ignorance but I am sure he knows I am right about this"

Slope, Bzzzzzz, WRONG.
I know whom you're referring to, Biff's cavort of day's past.
I'm sure Biff has feigned a lot of things, not just ignorance.

Biff, check your email.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 4:20 PM

Benson, stop poking bulls in the eye :-)

I have an announcement to make...I'VE GOT SAUSAGE FOR DINNER! WOOOO HOOO

(yeah yeah yeah, none of you give a rat's patootie, but I'm excited)

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 4:20 PM

"Adam was at Ellis incognito??"

Is Ellis Incognito related to Ellis Bar?

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 4:21 PM

I have an announcement to make...I'VE GOT SAUSAGE FOR DINNER! WOOOO HOOO

Better when you have one for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 4:24 PM

Slope, are you coming on the 15th?

Speaking of incognito, Someone has to shoot Adam an email about our get together since I dont' think he really reads the OT and I am sure wasn't even aware of Ratifico or Brooklyn Inn.

Posted by: Kensingtonian at September 24, 2009 4:25 PM

Oh, Dave...somehow I knew that was ... (I don't want to say 'coming' but I'm not able to think of another word!)

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 4:25 PM

There will be a forum post in the next day or so announcing the Oct. 15 party. We've got graphics and everything!

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 4:26 PM

The sausage is coming, Snappy?! And to think YOU "represented" Dave for a similar remark at 9:27am today. Well, I guess we've come full circle, haven't we.

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 4:28 PM

Speaking of...Kens, Cargar, Re Writer...I've not seen votes from you!

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 4:28 PM

"Well, I guess we've come full circle, haven't we."

This whole discussion is one big circle jerk.

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 4:29 PM

Cargar! No no no. I represented the remark about idiots electioneering outside subway stations!

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 4:30 PM

Or a bunch of jerks in a circle.

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 4:31 PM

(by the by...9:27am seems like yesterday not this morning. ugh)

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 4:32 PM

Slopefarm;
Bull's eye. I agree 100%.
- Posted by: benson at September 24, 2009 4:17 PM

Benson, your bull is blind.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 4:33 PM

"Or a bunch of jerks in a circle."

I just hope they're all playing safe and covering their wagons.

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 4:33 PM

"Kens, Cargar, Re Writer...I've not seen votes from you!"
I haven't been posting long enough to entitle me to vote.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 4:34 PM

Snaps, I was proofing galleys on my BlackBerry during intermission last night! Give me a break on my ballot! Besides, do you know how long it takes to re-read every Brownstoner post for the past 5 years to ensure I cast the perfect votes? A vote is a terrible thing to waste (though, again, mine can be bought).

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 4:35 PM

Thursday Blogwrap has a photo of what Biff will look like i a few years.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 4:36 PM

Ha!

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 4:36 PM

Dave, lay off! That's my grampa Ned!

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 4:38 PM

DIBS, that is absurd!
I don't even know how to read.

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 4:40 PM

Speaking of...Kens, Cargar, Re Writer...I've not seen votes from you!

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 4:28 PM


It's a very hard decision and some of the questions are tricky? Anyone can provide a cheat sheet? Us Russians don't like to play by the rules. We just buy arenas and shit with money magically made post perestroika times.

Speaking of that, I am a Russian Jew and I didn't get the memo. All of the oligarchs struck rich right around my age. I am waiting for the phone call any day now to become a CEO of some precious metal or oil newly developed company.

Posted by: Kensingtonian at September 24, 2009 4:40 PM

Yes- BEFORE you added to your laundry list. (Damn, where's my copy of that pre nup?)

Posted by: bxgrl at September 24, 2009 4:40 PM

"Cargar! No no no. I represented the remark about idiots electioneering outside subway stations!"

I thought you "represented" the egg roll he had for breakfast.

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 4:41 PM

You got a white grandpa, Snappy???

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 4:41 PM

Kens, I plan to be there. May be a bit late.

R-w, you're denial is not credible.

Posted by: slopefarm at September 24, 2009 4:42 PM

No cheat sheets Kens!

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 4:42 PM

Dave, he's not white...just melatonin challenged :)

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 4:43 PM

FOR SNAPPY'S EYES AND EARS ONLY -- IF YOU ARE NOT SNAPPY THIS IS NOT FOR YOU SO PLEASE DO NOT OPEN OR WATCH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCJJG8eSLmU

Posted by: lechacal at September 24, 2009 4:44 PM

bxgrl, for all we know, after Biff does gender verification, it will turn out that Re Writer is really sixyears, so, sweetie, please unbunch!

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 4:45 PM

LOL, lechacal. I peeked.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 4:46 PM

yEAH LAST NIGHT i WAS DRINKIN SOME BEERS W HIPSTER AND PROMISED HIM i WOULD POST THAT FOR sNAPS

Posted by: lechacal at September 24, 2009 4:48 PM

ROFL at the title! Good heavens!

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 4:49 PM

"LAST NIGHT i WAS DRINKIN SOME BEERS W HIPSTER"

Um, that was one email invitation that apparently didn't make it to my inbox!

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 4:52 PM

I wasn't invited either! What gives? And to think I send you nighttime funnies! (I swear I'm getting that diamond one made into a poster for a pal of mine!)

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 4:53 PM

totally impromptu, no planning kind of thing. anyway Snappy, did you listen to the song?

Posted by: lechacal at September 24, 2009 4:54 PM

By the way, your Caps Lock is on, Lech.

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 4:55 PM

I got the invite and then the recinding of it. But i didn't see it until this morning. Not trying to cause trouble or anything though. :)

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 4:57 PM

"By the way, your Caps Lock is on"

By the way, your Dunce Cap is on.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 4:57 PM

^^^^^here comes the vomit.

I know. Check your email.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 4:58 PM

"By the way, your Caps Lock is on"

By the way, your Dunce Cap is on.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 4:57 PM


She's not the funny one we thought her to be.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 4:59 PM

By the way, your Caps Lock is on, Lech.

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 4:55 PM

Biff he is just trying to win the award for #7. Most Frequent User of ALL CAPS

Posted by: Kensingtonian at September 24, 2009 4:59 PM

I listened to most of it Lech!

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 4:59 PM

DIBS, the funny one "we thought her to be" was just as unfunny. And she is.

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 5:00 PM

"recinding", dave, you troublemaker?

Re Writer = rescinding

Posted by: CarrollGardened at September 24, 2009 5:00 PM

ugh. Totally shouldn't have even mentioned it. I wanted to have an after work drink and reached out to a couple people seeing if there was any interest (after the OT was shut down for the night I think) and then figured it was too much work and said forget about it and then some very impromptu random drinks ended up happening after all. OK inquest over.

Posted by: lechacal at September 24, 2009 5:00 PM

We want to know what was discussed, lech. :)

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 5:02 PM

VOTE, you asshats!! [Hi, I'm baaack!]

Posted by: cobblehiller at September 24, 2009 5:02 PM

"Re Writer = rescinding"

Possibly

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 5:03 PM

Aren't we done with the check your email thing. It's so Tuesday.

Posted by: cobblehiller at September 24, 2009 5:04 PM

Hola Cobble!

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 5:04 PM

[Hi, I'm baaack!]

Posted by: cobblehiller at September 24, 2009 5:02 PM


And everything was so nice until then.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 5:04 PM

"We want to know what was discussed, lech."

Check your email. Maybe the wrapup is there.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 5:05 PM

cobble, i took your name in vain describing the kitchen in the HOTD

"cobbled together"

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 5:05 PM

So the 'check your email' thing is now the tuna-melt of OT jokes? :)

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 5:05 PM

Lech, we're totally yanking your chain. No need to explain!
Just make sure you email ME too next time. I hate missing a social gathering.

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 24, 2009 5:05 PM

Hola Snappy! Did I forget to tell you that I'm coming over for dinner tonight?

Posted by: cobblehiller at September 24, 2009 5:05 PM

Re-Writer, I don't like your chummy approach. It's not like you've known us that long.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 5:07 PM

"Aren't we done with the check your email thing. It's so Tuesday."

No Cobble, apparently they're not done.
I'll email you if you email me and then we can come on here with inside jokes.
I'm 12. How old are you?

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 5:07 PM

Yes, Snappy, it is.

I'm still ignoring you, DIBS. : P

Posted by: cobblehiller at September 24, 2009 5:08 PM

Come on by! I've got lots of sausages and I picked up a nice sized onion....yum

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 5:08 PM

OK...I actually DO have to go meet someone for drinks. A Brit Bag friend, not a PLUSA. However, i will be at the Irish bar on 44th street just east of Lexington. it's the one with the blue facade, same as the adjacent italian coffeshop.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 24, 2009 5:08 PM

biff - well to be honest you are kind of in the super totally anonymous category. Totally cool to hang out at the big events and all, but unless I know who someone is it's a little odd to be hanging out with them one on one. Just an explanation, not saying you shouldn't keep doing the totally anonymous thing if that's how you want to do things.

Posted by: lechacal at September 24, 2009 5:10 PM

"Re-Writer" — Is suspicious. But I feel like it's someone we know, and I kind of like him/her, which worries me.

Re Writer: Precisely, the fun is when EVERYONE is IN ON the joke!

Posted by: cobblehiller at September 24, 2009 5:10 PM

"Did I forget to tell you that I'm coming over for dinner tonight?"

You Better Half a sausage.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 5:11 PM

GAH! I forgot to get fresh bread to put it on :-(

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 5:15 PM

Cobble and Snappy, please confirm you got my ballot.

Posted by: infinitejester at September 24, 2009 5:18 PM

Better Half isn't going!

Posted by: cobblehiller at September 24, 2009 5:18 PM

"But I feel like it's someone we know, and I kind of like him/her, which worries me."

BWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!
My plan is working. Nothing to worry about. I only report to The What.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 5:20 PM

"Better Half isn't going!"
But is he coming.

Posted by: Re Writer at September 24, 2009 5:21 PM

Got it Jester and thanks!

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 5:24 PM

Confirmed infinite! I'm sorry! Haven't replied to anyone! Will do so going forward!

Posted by: cobblehiller at September 24, 2009 5:25 PM

Not at the moment, as far as I know, Re Writer!

Posted by: cobblehiller at September 24, 2009 5:25 PM

4. Brownstoner Readers Pick of Neighborhood to Live - south brooklyn! i believe this covers the awesomeness of carroll gardens and redhook, cobble hill can join the sobro party as well i think
13. Best Login Name - snappy :)
24. Most Like their Login Name - more4less. ha! i don't even know what that means
25. Least Like their Login Name - wonton
26. Brownstoner poster/lurker you’d most like to meet - i hear Gabriel Byrne lives in BH. i'd like to meet him! mmm. that dark mysterious thing. it works.

Posted by: CG_ups at September 24, 2009 5:34 PM

sorry, didn't really have an opinion on the rest so wasn't sure about the whole ballot thing.

Posted by: CG_ups at September 24, 2009 5:36 PM

CG!!! NO!!! Keep your votes private...send them to the email addy listed above.

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 5:37 PM

uh oh, was that a big faux pas to post it instead of email? i wanted it to be known, if you know gabriel byrne, please introduce me! :)

Posted by: CG_ups at September 24, 2009 5:38 PM

ps snappy i found your new girlfriend! have you ever seen cooking for real on the food network? adorable, knows how to cook, lovely smile, and got some cushion for the pushin. :)

Posted by: CG_ups at September 24, 2009 5:39 PM

i'd be kind of curious to meet david byrne as well, though he seems like kind of an ass.

Posted by: CG_ups at September 24, 2009 5:40 PM

Oooh! What time does that come on CG? I'm gonna have to check her out :)

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 5:43 PM

hmm, so i've got the all clear to get my first #00

Posted by: CG_ups at September 24, 2009 5:44 PM

And I'll see what I can do about rounding of some Byrnes for ya!

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 5:45 PM

I've seen her Snappy, she's your general type for sure. And she knows how to cook! : )

DB is a bit odd to speak with, awkward. His ex-wife, however, was LOTS of fun, and we used to sneak off for smokes.

Posted by: cobblehiller at September 24, 2009 5:45 PM

http://www.foodnetwork.com/sunny-anderson/bio/index.html

you can thank me by inviting me to the wedding in vermont :) she has two shows. very personable and looks much younger on her shows than she does in that overly made up picture. but you can get the gist. watch a clip!

Posted by: CG_ups at September 24, 2009 5:46 PM

400 *BOO-YA!*

Posted by: CG_ups at September 24, 2009 5:48 PM

SNAPPY!!! She lives in BROOKLYN!!

Posted by: cobblehiller at September 24, 2009 5:48 PM

assmonkeys!

Posted by: CG_ups at September 24, 2009 5:48 PM

not you guys = assmonkeys. it was just my cursing for SOMEONE stealing my 400. sigh. :(

Posted by: CG_ups at September 24, 2009 5:49 PM

Wooooo! Just looked at that link CG....awwwww sooki sooki now!

SHE'S HOT LIKE FIYAH!

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 5:49 PM

: P

Posted by: cobblehiller at September 24, 2009 5:51 PM

i have a good sense for these things. :) it doesn't hurt that sunny is absolutely gorgeous. haha

Posted by: CG_ups at September 24, 2009 5:51 PM

For real? She lives in Brooklyn? Is she gay? Confused? :)

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 5:51 PM

You almost got it CG!

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 5:52 PM

Wait a minute...she's the Sunny from Hot 97? She looks very different than what I remember.

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 5:53 PM

personally if i were to swing that way, i would have to include gabrielle union on my list. saw her in a commercial the other day and i was like that woman is older than me and 1) has the most perfect skin 2) has a slammin bod and 3) is drop dead freaking gorgeous.

Posted by: CG_ups at September 24, 2009 5:53 PM

Gabrielle is quite cute, but I wanna thicken up her thighs a bit more :)

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 5:55 PM

"Is she gay? Confused? :)"

A little detective work may be in order!

Posted by: cobblehiller at September 24, 2009 5:56 PM

as in LIFE IS NOT FAIR! rant over. haha

she looks better or worse than her hot97 days? must be her, says so in the bio. guess she's a bit older than i though. i thought she was late 20's. maybe she is working the 3-handle.

Posted by: CG_ups at September 24, 2009 5:58 PM

honestly, i think sunny may be batting for your team. i wouldn't be so cruel to suggest her otherwise. :)

Posted by: CG_ups at September 24, 2009 5:59 PM

Who here is a good detective? Binoculars, black outfit, car with tinted windows, professional camera...who can help me here? Maybe pose as a Census Bureau member and ring her bell....How many people live here? Are you gay? How do you feel about dating unemployed lesbian lawyers?

:)

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 5:59 PM

wtf? we start talking about hot chicks and all the dudes leave the room?

Posted by: CG_ups at September 24, 2009 6:00 PM

i've never been the thread killer for the OT. this is a strange feeling. a strange losery feeling. no likey.

Posted by: CG_ups at September 24, 2009 6:01 PM

She looks better than her Hot 97 days. Much better.

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 6:01 PM

Yeah...you'd think the boys would be in here hooting and hollering...(Well, except Dave of course).

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 6:02 PM

we don't need them. PILLOW FIGHT! *WHACK*

Posted by: CG_ups at September 24, 2009 6:04 PM

CG, I think we are the thread killers today! I just saw a tumbleweed roll by....

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 6:04 PM

"dating unemployed lesbian lawyers"

Uh, Snaps, You mean: Amusing Super Bright On-Sabbatical lesbian lawyer!!
Positive thoughts, positive self image!

Posted by: cobblehiller at September 24, 2009 6:05 PM

Cobble, yes! I clearly misspoke!

"PILLOW FIGHT!"

*thwack, swing, thwack*

Now we've got feathers all over the OT floor :)

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 6:07 PM

here...just busy googling who in the world this woman is

Posted by: lechacal at September 24, 2009 6:07 PM

*thwack, swing, thwack* TAKE THAT!!

Posted by: cobblehiller at September 24, 2009 6:09 PM

Observation:

When you go to google images and put in "Gabrielle Union" and hit "search images", and a whole smorgasborg of a hot chick wearing not very much at all pops up on your screen, and the head of your practice group walks by and sees your screen, it's a little awkward.

Posted by: lechacal at September 24, 2009 6:10 PM

"just busy googling who in the world this woman is"

All we need to know about her is that she is a fine specimen of toasty brown goodness :)

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 6:10 PM

**WOOOMPH, THWACK...WOOOOSH**

Gotcha!

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 6:11 PM

LOL Lechacal! Just stare him down and tell him to mind his own business :)

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 6:11 PM

It's some fine toasty brown goodness, that's for damn sure.

Posted by: lechacal at September 24, 2009 6:11 PM

(we are losers! a virtual pillow fight? do we three get a special award for this?)

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 6:13 PM

***THWAMP, WOOOOSH, THWAP, THWUMP!***

No, Sunny Anderson, Lech. Google her!

Posted by: cobblehiller at September 24, 2009 6:15 PM

lechacal is distracted! PILE ON! *THWACK*

Posted by: CG_ups at September 24, 2009 6:16 PM

okay, i'm off like a prom dress. can't wait to get home, pop a bottle of wine and watch some *flash forward*

laterz

Posted by: CG_ups at September 24, 2009 6:18 PM

She has a BLOG!

http://sunnyanderson.blogspot.com

Posted by: cobblehiller at September 24, 2009 6:19 PM

*THWACK, WHOOOMP, WHUUUUUMP, WOOOSH, SWING, THWACK**

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 6:19 PM

Nite CG!

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 6:20 PM

I'll be subscribing to that blog :)

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 6:21 PM

So all the other dudes are totally gone and I'm here in the middle of a pillow fight with a bunch of chicks? Awesome.

Posted by: lechacal at September 24, 2009 6:22 PM

LOL! But lechacal, maybe not so good...can't you see our hair now? We all look like chickens! Hair going every which way but loose, feathers stuck in our teeth...quite a mess :)

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 6:24 PM

Don't get too excited Lech. We're fully clothed. ; )

Posted by: cobblehiller at September 24, 2009 6:24 PM

Time to give my pillows a break and go cook sausage! Yay! Nite all!

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at September 24, 2009 6:26 PM

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