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September 25, 2009

Listings Up For 93 Nevins Street

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Listings have finally appeared for the eco-friendly conversion project at 93 Nevins that was dubbed the "Health House." So what's for sale? Only two three-bedroom homes, both of which top 3,000 square feet and cost a cool $2,595,000 apiece.
93 Nevins Listings [Halstead]
Development Watch: 93 Nevins More Fully Revealed [Brownstoner] GMAP P*Shark
Scaffolding Down, Listings Imminent at 93 Nevins [Brownstoner]
Development Watch: Progress at the Health House [Brownstoner]
Development Watch: 93 Nevins Street [Brownstoner]
OHNY Report: Double Your Eco-Friendly Pleasure [Brownstoner]




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Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 25, 2009 11:15 AM


Umm... I have to say that LEED certification for housing must be a little bit retarded.

Even with a few solar panels on the roof, exactly HOW is a 3,000+ sq ft space considered "eco-friendly"?! In terms of heating, cooling, lighting, etc etc etc... this is basically 1,000 square feet per person (2 adults, a kid, and a guest room)

Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that they employed various "lower impact" techniques in this house... but to sell a HUGE space as ecological is effing retarded.

Posted by: tybur6 at September 25, 2009 11:16 AM

Layouts are awkward... Very chopped -- small bedrooms.

Posted by: BH76 at September 25, 2009 11:28 AM

Too bad...is THAT the exterior finished? The interior space is beautifully laid out (altho' with 1 garage space each, which could easily have been another small apt.) And they did do very green construction, including a very advanced heating/cooling system (if they installed it, it was in the planning stages a year ago.)

Price is ridiculous...gives 'green'building a bad rep.

Posted by: cmu at September 25, 2009 11:30 AM

Its limestone - actually looks nice up close. Pity about the bars on the porch. Still - like nothing else I've seen done around here.

Posted by: HonestJohn at September 25, 2009 11:45 AM

neither has a fricking dining room?!

Posted by: randolph at September 25, 2009 11:51 AM

I hate people who complain about things from the blissful ignorance of their computers. Go and LOOK at the actual building before you t y p e out your almighty judgment. It'll be part of openhousenewyork on 10/11, so go see it then.

I walk by this place every day. It is gorgeous. And if not gorgeous, it is at least very cool. It's an awesome reclamation of an existing building that had been gutted by fire and lay empty for decades. It's the epitome of modern urban living, beautiful interior design, and environmentally friendly construction.

I am surprised that they didn't make the two units into an "upper" and a "lower" because i think all the stairs may discourage older or handicapped buyers. That being said, the layouts are like many in Philadelphia, where the houses are smaller and have the same one-room-per-floor layout.

They're going to put in an iron fence a couple feet out from the perimeter of the building, to follow the lot lines, and fill that with plantings, from what I understand.

Posted by: chuck at September 25, 2009 11:54 AM

would all those people wealthy enuf to move to and buy all these houses/condos CobHil/CarGar/BoHill please wear armband or pin to identify yourselves so I can distinguish you from the rental people and oldtimers.

Posted by: Petebklyn at September 25, 2009 11:55 AM

chuck sounds like the broker. STFU.

Posted by: randolph at September 25, 2009 12:00 PM

tyburg6, normally I'd agree about the size being non-green, but with this layout, it's actually quite heat-efficient. I think the sq footage must include the garage?

Having 3 levels may not have been the best, but personally I love the layout.

Posted by: cmu at September 25, 2009 12:13 PM

$850 a sq/ft to live in Nevins St?

Posted by: Brokedeveloper at September 25, 2009 12:15 PM

So, who else here thinks the pricing is delusional?

Posted by: DitmasSnark at September 25, 2009 12:31 PM

fuggedaboutit

Posted by: BK realestate veteran at September 25, 2009 12:34 PM

This building was open as a gallery during the Atlantic Art Walk and I went in to see the layouts. Awkward doesn't even begin to explain it; small rooms, poor quality finishes (although it may not have been entirely finished), definitely not "luxury" yet priced so. If I remember correctly, the "master bedroom" didn't even have a bathtub. (Granted, that isn't very "green", but the floor with the two bedrooms did.) Very disappointing and definitely not a showcase for green building.

Posted by: lambretta76 at September 25, 2009 12:38 PM

These layouts are especially horrible at $850 a sq/ft. You are paying so much per sq/ft for a lot of wasted space.

But wait! The wall is a chalkboard!!

Posted by: Brokedeveloper at September 25, 2009 12:38 PM

I'll wait for the third price cut.

Posted by: mrswynn at September 25, 2009 12:42 PM

Too bad; I had a lot of hope for this building when I first heard about it.

Posted by: phbalanced at September 25, 2009 12:58 PM

I like the upper portion, but I think the lower infilled area is a disappointment. I have walked by and would never have thought the material was limestone - looks like cinder block. The layout and sizing of the windows was poor, although the floorplan probably dictated some of it.

Posted by: neilw at September 25, 2009 1:14 PM

not gorgeous.

Posted by: cottontop at September 25, 2009 2:18 PM

Like Chuck, I live near this structure. I can attest that neither Chuck nor I are brokers. (Hiya, Chuck!)

It's definitely better looking up close, although the size of the limestone blocks is sadly close to cinder block (what was the thinking there??). It is TONS better than the burned-out shell that stood for decades. I look forward to seeing the interiors during OHNY before passing any further judgment.

Posted by: Brooklyn Chicken at September 25, 2009 3:03 PM

I, too, live around the corner from this thing and walk by it frequently. It's fugly. Strange massing. Bad material choices. Fugly.

Posted by: kvnbklyn at September 25, 2009 3:16 PM

The exterior is very unattractive.

Posted by: 1842 at September 25, 2009 3:39 PM

How can you include a *parking spot* in a building in downtown Brooklyn and call that green? It's ridiculous. This is incredibly close to several subway lines. Green marketing is out of control if something that involves off-street parking can be called green.

Posted by: zinka at September 25, 2009 8:47 PM

If they really wanted this to be "green" they would have put a garden instead of a garage. I cannot believe someone into "green" living would pay $3million and not have a proper garden (not to mention dining room). I can easily think of many dozens of homes I have seen in much better areas that are way better than this. You could buy a $2million townhouse and "green" renovate it and be way, way better off. Sadly, the whole "green" thing (however laudable in principle) seems to be equivalent of what "oat bran" used to be - slap on the label and consumers will lap it up. Except not at $3 million.

Posted by: Miss Muffett at September 25, 2009 9:55 PM

fugly and bad location as far as noise. i used to live right near here, on pacific which was bad enough with trucks using it as an illegal shortcut in the mornings. nevins sucks, and being so close to atlantic isnt a plus. "green" stuff should at least be on a tranquil street.

Posted by: BSD at September 27, 2009 8:01 PM

DAMN! This thread pretty much verifies the "head-up-their-collective-tight-asses" mentality that permeates like rotting sewage in ye' olde community of hateful Bore-em. Do you guys know anything about what it takes to get an evacuated tube solar hot water system approved by the DOB? Do you know about the solar voltaic system that powers practically all the electric in there and feeds energy back to the grid for a profit? This development is a damn triumph over adversity and all you can say is "it's fugly." As for pricing, it's priced what other townhouses of equal size and stature go for in your ghetto-ass neighborhood so blame Halstead for that. Property value is based on taxation and what the market can deliver but in the case of valuation on a property like this, there aren't comparisons even remotely like it to make your standard assessments. Anyway, didn't mean to rant, I'm just glad I don't live near any of you.

Posted by: Greenpointer at October 31, 2009 11:21 AM

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