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September 29, 2009
Curb Cut-apalooza at The Minerva

Last week's brouhaha over a possible curb cut on a landmarked block of Prospect Heights prompted one reader to send in an update of a mega-curb cut in Greenwood. Over at 614 7th Avenue (the former Minerva site), all eleven new townhouses have their own garages, though most of them double up for curb access, which could make for some tight angles when there are cars parked on the street. But at least they tried to not take up all of the street parking.
614 7th Avenue: Five Weeks Later [Brownstoner]
Development Watch: 614 7th Avenue [Brownstoner]
Development Watch: Fabled Minerva 'Coming Soon'! [Brownstoner]
New Minerva Looking Wonky? [Brownstoner] GMAP
The New Minerva Begins to Sprout [Brownstoner]
Development Watch: 614 7th Avenue [Brownstoner]
Video: SWO Action at 614 7th Avenue [Brownstoner]
The Minerva: Signs Point To Go [Brownstoner]
First Rejection by DOB of Minerva II Plans [Brownstoner]
Minerva. Take Two. Roll 'Em. [Brownstoner]
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Big difference between this and a nice block of landmarked brownstones. Nothing going on here folks.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 29, 2009 10:06 AM
Is this a new weekly feature, akin to the Friday Horror Show?
Curb Cut Tuesdays?
Posted by: benson at September 29, 2009 10:08 AM
This is a dead end with the cemetery on one side of the street - so no keen loss of parking will be felt... And those who do need it, will be parking in the townhouses anyway.
Posted by: bupe at September 29, 2009 10:24 AM
something about seeing these pieces on curb cuts makes me want to blow my brains out.
Posted by: ftgreenepark at September 29, 2009 10:25 AM
well it's a monday when it's your first day back at work...
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at September 29, 2009 10:27 AM
There's a lot of car stripping and stealing (and sometimes burning) on these quiet dead end blocks next to the cemetary. Reducing the cars parked here is probably not a big deal. Also probably best for these new residents to have their car behind closed doors.
Posted by: Park Place at September 29, 2009 10:29 AM
so how much for one of these townhouses?
Posted by: Petebklyn at September 29, 2009 10:44 AM
PP, this will not help any of the issues you described, especially these folks dangerously jockeying to get into their garages, if you can call them that.
Have you seen these rowhouses (I cringe at saying that...but they are in a row). They are 14 ft. wide. I assume the average opening for a garage door (since I don't have one) is 8-10 ft.
You do the match. So that's a might sharp cut to the old wheel to maneuver your car into your garage w/o driving all over the sidewalk...yes, that's 7 curb cuts over the entire corner, which also is supposed to be used by pedestrians.
With 39 new condos around the corner, and at least 40 new rental units within 2 blocks, there is lots more pedestrian traffic, especially folks crossing that corner to goto the train station at 25th St.
Lose, lose situation...but I have said this before about these POSs.
With that in mind, perhaps it will be a mute point as the new owners can float their cars right out of their flooded garages due to the water level in their basements.
We were on the block last night during the downpour and you should have heard those sub-pumps whining. Like a jet landing.
Minerva cries a thousand tears...
And it ends up in the basements of those rowhouses.
Posted by: Action Jackson at September 29, 2009 10:44 AM
Petebklyn,
They were originally listed for $1.1M, now they are down to the mid $900's which is effing nuts for the quality of these homes and the problems they already have.
It is applaudable for someone to build rowhouses in this condo-centric area of Bklyn, but so sad they came up short.
Posted by: Action Jackson at September 29, 2009 10:48 AM
"You do the match."
I meant "you do the math," tough it does not "match up" either way ;)
Posted by: Action Jackson at September 29, 2009 10:52 AM
I think you meant to say to prospective buyers, "You do the meth."
Posted by: IMBY at September 29, 2009 1:38 PM
What dibs said, these are new developments. Furthermore, there is little to no ped traffic here. Altho here is plenty pf parking.
Posted by: denton at September 29, 2009 2:08 PM
denton, not true. During "rush hours" folks are up and down the blocks quite often. Parking, according to our friends, has become a nightmare on alt.side days as folks "park and ride" for the R train on 25th St. So the loss of the spaces will be felt.
Weekends, not so bad, weekdays, fuhgeddaboudit!
And with Green-Wood getting tons of tourism and hipster traffic, there seems to be a consistent stream of folks following the Cemetery's perimeter (right by these condos) towards the main gate on 25th and 5th.
So I have to beg to differ.
And IMBY, damn straight...they buyer's drug of choice.
Posted by: Action Jackson at September 29, 2009 3:03 PM
Wait a sec, all these crazy NIMBYs are complaining about curb cuts? You are all 100% responsible for the curb cuts!
This project was originally intended as an small apartment building with no curb cuts, but, of course, it was "too big" and would "block light and air" and "cause displacement" and all that other typical unsupported BS.
Bowing to NIMBY demands, the developer agreed to build townhouses with individual units and parking. Obviously the parking includes curb cuts! How else are the cars supposed to manage to park off-street?
Posted by: cuentame at September 29, 2009 3:09 PM
"Bowing to NIMBY demands, the developer agreed to build townhouses with individual units and parking."
cuentame, interesting. If the developer "bowed" to the "NIMBY's" demands, "they" (it's a team) would have put in less homes and not have crammed 11 unsellable 14 ft wide stucco rowhouses.
"Obviously the parking includes curb cuts! How else are the cars supposed to manage to park off-street?"
Um, if there was no garages, 11 cards could easily be absorbed into the normal parking patterns. If there had been less rowhouses, even less impact.
the curb cuts have cut the parking, this is my guess, to 1/10 of what was there. So how is the developer helping the community.
I'll accept being called a NIMBY any day over a SHILL like yourself.
Though, better to call me NIMS (not in my street/sidewalk). Too bad two developers will affect so many people.
Posted by: Action Jackson at September 29, 2009 4:11 PM
OK, that last flame was not needed (though I stand by my shill remark).
It just upsets me to no end when development sites, anywhere in Bklyn, have such a negative affect on the local community.
This particular one, curb cuts aside, has been going on since 2005, according to this blog.
I know it's been driving my friends on the block nuts, let alone other residents and Green-Wood Cemetery I assume.
The Bob Scarano original design was just as bad of a plan, so I guess there's no win in this one.
Next...
Posted by: Action Jackson at September 29, 2009 4:22 PM
"It just upsets me to no end when development sites, anywhere in Bklyn, have such a negative affect on the local community."
I should have added, "and defended by people who obviously don't live in the neighborhood."
Done.
Posted by: Action Jackson at September 29, 2009 4:25 PM
hold the F up..The side walk is public! How the hell did this happen! Somebody get me a freaking map!
Posted by: jack slade at September 29, 2009 6:49 PM
> Minerva cries a thousand tears...
>
> And it ends up in the basements of those rowhouses.
AJ - that was fantastic. Kudos.
Posted by: DitmasSnark at September 29, 2009 9:37 PM
I walked by, it's fine. Sidewalk is plenty deep and it won't be hard to angle into the drive. Maybe action 'civic pride' jackson can offer a snarky comment to counter that fact, but i imagine most people living or buying nearby wouldn't make an issue of it.
Posted by: thethird at November 1, 2009 9:22 PM

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