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August 20, 2009
Thursday Links

Worker in Fall Recalls Panic [NY Times]
Eight Charged for Theft: $22m in Wireless Devices [WSJ]
Brooklyn Library Restricts Access to Book [Newsday]
Habitat for Humanity in Brooklyn [NY Daily News]
3.5 Years for DWI Killer [NY Post]
Avant-Garde Agriculture, Architecture in Brooklyn [Brooklyn Eagle]
Organ Trafficking Thriving in Boroughs? [Brooklyn Eagle]
Brooklyn Bridge Park Is Being Built [Brooklyn Paper]
Neil Diamond's Debt to Brooklyn Dodgers [Spinner]
Al Pacino's Sheepshead Movie Shoot [Sheapshead Bites]
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3.5 Years for killing two people is insane. He'll be deported back to Afghanistan after his sentence but still.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 20, 2009 8:39 AM
Despite us being in the midst of the dog days of summer, this blog seems to be on fire. I counted at least 5 threads yesterday with 50+ comments and within them, there were some really interesting discussions. I wonder what the recent stats are regarding hits to the site.
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 20, 2009 8:50 AM
DWI: 3.5 years for murder? If he had taken a gun and shot folks the sentence would have been longer. Why are we treating DWI murderers (yes, they are murderers) with kid gloves? Bull----.
Re: Habitat for Humanity - Love them! I got to work on an 84 hour house they did in PA and had the most fun ever. Everyone should try to volunteer for them at least once. It's a great experience you'll never forget.
Re: Restricted access to the book - Yep, the contents sound despicable enough. But this is a library. If you are going to carry the book, why make consenting adults make an appointment to see it? Either put the damned thing on the shelf or don't carry it at all.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 20, 2009 8:53 AM
Did you guys see that Vicki Sell posted a comment late last night in the Wednesday Links thread?
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 20, 2009 8:53 AM
Biff, love him or hate him (it seems to be a toss up for some posters) Jscheff is bringing the heat with some of his posts. The Prince song 'Controversy' keeps running through my head :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 20, 2009 8:54 AM
Cobble, Yes!!! I was dismayed that she was mis-portrayed (is that a word?) by the article. She should write in to the Times and ask they they publish her response to the article.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 20, 2009 8:55 AM
I agree Snappy, if the article was that far off the mark. I wonder if the author has an anti-Park Slope mommie bias!!
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 20, 2009 8:59 AM
I agree. I commented to Vicki that one should never taalk to the press with expectations that you won't be misquoted or taken out of context or be surprised that the reporter had a specific agenda and would slant your comments to reflect that.
I believe most reporters actually make up about half the "quotes."
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 20, 2009 9:02 AM
Snappy, lol. But actually, none of the threads with the most comments appeared to be controversial, i.e., Bjork moving to Brooklyn Heights, the House of the Day, the new Mexican Restaurant in Park Slope, and an update on the Avalon. Of course I'm counting the OT in my number as well, which is really just a bunch of PLUSAs BS'ing the day away.
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 20, 2009 9:02 AM
"DWI: 3.5 years for murder?"
Snappy knock it off! You know it's the Sentencing Guidelines!
" Jscheff is bringing the heat with some of his posts."
Jscheff is a Race baiting F*****tard! Plus everyone here laps it up! Disgusting!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at August 20, 2009 9:05 AM
"Of course I'm counting the OT in my number as well, which is really just a bunch of PLUSAs BS'ing the day away."
Hey! I resemble that remark!!
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 20, 2009 9:05 AM
"But actually, none of the threads with the most comments appeared to be controversial,"
The Crown Heights dust up was garbage! Plus the Jerk-off doesn't know Danny Simmons is moving to Crown Heights!
http://fort-greene.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/19/a-cultural-eminence-departs/
F***** Him!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
Posted by: Return of The What at August 20, 2009 9:09 AM
He wasn't black, What.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 20, 2009 9:09 AM
Cobble, so do I! And more than you much of the time. :-)
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 20, 2009 9:10 AM
What, I missed the Crown Heights dust up. Was that yesterday?
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 20, 2009 9:12 AM
"And more than you much of the time. :-)"
You're right, as usual, Biff, I need to up my game!! ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 20, 2009 9:12 AM
Sentencing guidelines need to be changed. On that we can agree. I won't call Jscheff a racist. I don't know the man and I don't feel like I can stick such a nasty label on him simply based on the crown heights post. The comments may have been ignorant and/or short sighted, but I think more evidence is required before calling someone a racist. I know you'll disagree, What.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 20, 2009 9:12 AM
Oh, Biff, we losers will find controversy in everything!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 20, 2009 9:14 AM
You know what I find interesting...it's that posting was going on into the evening last night, and on into this morning, in a couple threads.
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 20, 2009 9:14 AM
We had some good topics yesterday. Hopefully today won't disappoint. I know I can't wait for today's HOTD. Now that was something!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 20, 2009 9:17 AM
"You know what I find interesting...it's that posting was going on into the evening last night, and on into this morning, in a couple threads."
Interesting and disturbing...especially the part about DIBS logging in from his tacky ensuite to add comments to the HOTD (just kidding about the tacky part, DIBS).
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 20, 2009 9:18 AM
"He wasn't black, What."
"An illegal immigrant --"
First sentence of this garbage Post writter!
will serve as little as 3½ years for drunkenly killing two women in Queens after pleading guilty yesterday in the deadly crash.
Queens woman? This NY people die here everyday!
Now for the pay off!
Did this happen in "Brownstone Brooklyn"???!! WTF this has to do with "The restoration of Brownstones", huh??!!!
" I don't know the man and I don't feel like I can stick such a nasty label on him simply based on the crown heights post."
You're reading his post, RIGHT?!!! Are you that stupid or disingenuous???!!!!
"The comments may have been ignorant and/or short sighted, but I think more evidence is required before calling someone a racist."
Ok great, disingenuous.....
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at August 20, 2009 9:23 AM
Well, the most disturbing part for me was envisioning DIBS sitting on "the can"!! Please don't do that again DIBS!!
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 20, 2009 9:24 AM
Welcome Jscheff - you aren't officially part of the Brownstoner family until The What calls you a racist.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 20, 2009 9:25 AM
Cobble, that's the part to which I was referring in my own patented subtle and demure way.
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 20, 2009 9:25 AM
What, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
ROFL Cobble...that gave me temporary insanity as well!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 20, 2009 9:29 AM
"What, I missed the Crown Heights dust up. Was that yesterday?"
Go read it Biff and get back to me!
You know something I realized 2 things-- ether you're so God Damned stupid or in concert with all this garbage.. Maybe your attitudes toward Covert Race/Class Warfare suits you and the "Agenda". From day one Brownstoner has initiated this type of climate but no one here has the courage to call him out on his bullsh1t. The Crown Heights thread was garbage and you know it just like Dave's racial slur.
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at August 20, 2009 9:30 AM
"It's "commode" not a "can" cobble."
Oh, right, sorry DIBS, I wasn't being "period correct"! ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 20, 2009 9:31 AM
Biff, Please try not to be so subtle before I've had my 2nd cup of coffee!
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 20, 2009 9:32 AM
What, I'm willing to have a civilized discussion with you (if you wish) but meet me in the OT so others don't have to wade through this if they don't want to.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 20, 2009 9:35 AM
The What is clearly the biggest racist on here since PropJoe disappeared - but I find myself agreeing with him about the DWI story - it basically has nothing to do with Brooklyn.
Posted by: dittoburg at August 20, 2009 9:37 AM
"What, I'm willing to have a civilized discussion with you (if you wish) but meet me in the OT so others don't have to wade through this if they don't want to."
FORGET IT! DONE!
"The What is clearly the biggest racist on here since PropJoe disappeared - but I find myself agreeing with him about the DWI story - it basically has nothing to do with Brooklyn."
Then Dittoburg prove it! Go and look for thing (Not when I called Asshats, Asshats) and get back to me!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
Posted by: Return of The What at August 20, 2009 9:42 AM
OK...my comment about 3 1/2 years not being enough notwithstanding, I hadn't noticed that it all happened in Queens.
What DOES this have to do with Brooklyn??? I don't want to be inundated on this blog with all the crap that goes on in Queens & The Bronx.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 20, 2009 9:44 AM
"You know something I realized 2 things-- ether you're so God Damned stupid or in concert with all this garbage"
Hmmm, I don't think I'm in concert with anything, so it must be the former.
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 20, 2009 9:45 AM
The What seems to be losing it this morning.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 20, 2009 9:48 AM
I called you boring yesterday, and then you called me a racist for calling you boring right?
You're the one who needs to defend what your standard of "racist" is, not me.
"ether you're so God Damned stupid"
Biff - i'm assuming What is sniffing the ether today.
Posted by: dittoburg at August 20, 2009 9:54 AM
ditto, it is what it is. My life will go on. Any chance you'll join us tonight in Williamsburg?
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 20, 2009 9:57 AM
That was aimed at me, Biff.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 20, 2009 9:59 AM
ditto....come on out. If we get tired of looking at hipsters, you and I can go on a latina/latino hunt. We won't have to go far!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 20, 2009 10:00 AM
Biff - are the details on the Forum? - I'll take a look. I was going to help my new neighbor Miss Bjork Gudmndsdottir roof her house with marble pound cake or whatever it is she's using.
Posted by: dittoburg at August 20, 2009 10:02 AM
ditto....come on out. If we get tired of looking at hipsters, you and I can go on a latina/latino hunt. We won't have to go far!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 20, 2009 10:00 AM
I will be joining THAT scavenger hunt!
Posted by: Kensingtonian at August 20, 2009 10:04 AM
Ditto, we're getting together at Pete's Candy Store.
http://www.petescandystore.com/
From 6:30 p.m. till whenever the last PLUSA splits which will prolly be past midnight.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at August 20, 2009 10:06 AM
DIBS - as much as I'd love to, I wouldn't get very far before my wife brained me. Kens thanks for the info, I may look in.
Posted by: dittoburg at August 20, 2009 10:09 AM
Ditto, do you live in BH? For some reason I can't recall what neighbourhood you're in.
It would be great to finally meet you. Try to make it out. Even Snark surprised us by showing up at one of the gatherings.
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 20, 2009 10:11 AM
No Biff, I just wish Bjorkypants was my loony next door neighbor.
Posted by: dittoburg at August 20, 2009 10:18 AM
I agree with snappy- 3.5 years is ridiculous. And that's true for any DWI diver who causes an accident. Why do we give them a pass? And in any case- what does this particular story have to do with Brooklyn?
I almost never agree with What but on the Crown Heights thread he was spot on. Still, I don't know that I would actually label jscheff a racist however. But i did call him out on the story because it was obnoxious, condescending, ignorant, inaccurate and just plain stupid. Of course racists possess all those qualities as well, but while not saying jscheff has jumped the R line, I do have to wonder how much he actually bothered to learn about Crown Heights before he wrote that post. And the answer- in a nutshell- nothing.
Posted by: bxgrl at August 20, 2009 10:48 AM
hate to say it, but 3.5 years is more than most dwi killers get. He probably got that much cuz of his history.
Posted by: denton at August 20, 2009 11:05 AM
The Crown Heights thread WAS garbage. It was nothing less than insulting to the folks who live in the neighborhood (like me). The post suggests the neighborhood was a barren wasteland until Tavern on Dean came along to bring poor, misguided Crown Heights "up to its standards," whatever the hell that means.
Crown Heights has museums (Jewish Children's Museum, Brooklyn Chidren's Museum), parks (Lincoln Terrace Park, Brower Park), a terrific public boulevard in Eastern Parkway, tremendous ethnic cuisine, and it annually hosts the city's largest and most colorful parade, the West Indian Day Carnival. The neighborhood is most definitely thriving and is full of great people, but you wouldn't ever dream that from the "jscheff"'s ignorant and misinformed post.
Posted by: East New York at August 20, 2009 11:42 AM
I came late in the day and posted, probably after everyone had gone home. But I was furious. He could have been a man about it and retracted or admitted to poor writing. But guess not.
Posted by: bxgrl at August 20, 2009 11:55 AM
Agree with ENY, I think Crown Heights is a fabulous neighbourhood. Can someone point me to the thread in question?
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 20, 2009 11:57 AM
I think it was last Thursday, toward the end of the day.
Posted by: bxgrl at August 20, 2009 11:59 AM
August 17, 2009
Closing Bell: Crown Heights' Blooming Art Scene
(I had a few trenchant words for big jugs, who attacked Montrose too)
Posted by: bxgrl at August 20, 2009 12:01 PM
Here is the thread: http://bit.ly/POkZe
Posted by: East New York at August 20, 2009 12:01 PM
Thank you very much bxgrl and ENY.
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 20, 2009 12:38 PM
Oh my gosh! In that post, Jscheff gave the typical outsider's uniformed stereotype of Crown Heights. I had no idea he wasn't just summarizing the story.
Posted by: mopar at August 20, 2009 12:40 PM
Ding!!! Ding!!! Ding!!! Ding!!!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at August 20, 2009 12:43 PM
The "standards" comment was completely inappropriate and offensive, regardless of whether or not it was intentional.
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 20, 2009 12:53 PM
OK....I left work early that day, that's why I missed it. But I remember pointing out a day or two ago that tavern on Nostrand was opened by a black guy who lives about 5-6 blocks away.
I agree that the "standards" comment is out of place, AT BEST.
I also think that Big Jugs, although she may or may not have big jugs, might fit the stereotype of anyone with big jugs being an imbecile.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 20, 2009 2:16 PM
The number of posts is not so remarkable, Biff, especially since you and Daveinbedstuy account for 75% of them. It's amazing how much time people waste on the internet.
Posted by: Big Jugs at August 20, 2009 6:48 PM

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