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August 4, 2009
Walkabout with Montrose: Tenement Living
This is the second in a series of pieces about the development of multiple-unit housing in Brooklyn. Starting at the bottom of the economic ladder and moving up – tenements.
There have been tenement buildings in NY since the beginning of the city. The poor and lower working classes have long been sheltered, if you could call it that, in cramped and wretched rooms by the docks, slaughterhouses, and factories, and in areas allowed to go to seed by unscrupulous landlords and city officials. With immigration rising, beginning in the mid 19th century, the population of the Manhattan and Brooklyn continued to grow by leaps and bounds. In 1867, the first of three Tenement House Laws was passed in an attempt to improve conditions, which almost everyone agreed were horrible and inhumane. Legally, a tenement was defined as any building with 3 or more units, with shared sanitary facilities. This 1867 law only required that a legal tenement had a fire escape and at least one privy for every 20 tenants. This privy was outside, in the back of the building, and the law also forbade the keeping of sheep, goats, horses and cows on the premises. Most of these tenement buildings had 2 or 3 room units, and had received little light or air. Many of them were 3 and 4 story wooden buildings which deteriorated quickly, and were prone to catch fire. Real reform was still to come.
In 1879, an important new tenement house law was passed, which is referred to as the “Old Law”. It mandated that new tenement buildings be built to allow natural light and air in every room. The "dumbbell" apartment was invented, with wider rooms in the front and back and narrow centers to allow air shafts to be built in the center to let in necessary light and ventilation. The lowest income adjoining tenements shared a single rear yard privy, and water was only available in the rear yard. Higher end tenements typically had 4 units per floor, with indoor toilets in the center of each floor, along with the stairwell. Most higher end units had three rooms, with a living room in the front or rear, and bedrooms open to the air shafts, each successive room being reached by passing through another room. The living room contained a tub and cold water, and a chimney or flue for a coal stove for heating and cooking. Many of these buildings had four residential floors rising above retail stores on the ground floor, and were often on mixed commercial blocks. Corner buildings, with two street frontages were exempt from the dumbbell configuration, and were often larger than midblock tenements. By this time, the preferred building materials were brick and stone, not wood, but in spite of the changes, tenements were still crowded and miserable places to live. In 1929, the Multiple Dwelling Law mandated that all tenements be upgraded to replace outdoor privies with one indoor water closet for every two families, and fire safety standards, such as sprinklers and better fire escapes were implemented.
In Brooklyn, we can still find the remnants of the “Old Law” tenements in the oldest neighborhoods like Brooklyn Heights, Cobble Hill, Williamsburg, Bushwick, and parts of Bed Stuy. Many of us may have been in one of these apartments that still has the tub in the living room, tiny kitchen against a wall, and a toilet that seem like an afterthought tucked into a closet. It was. Ironically, many of these buildings do not look like our idea of tenements from the outside. The Victorians believed in exterior ornament, whether on a factory, tenement or private house. These buildings can have expressive cornices, framed windows with ledges and pediments, and fine entry doors. Most are brick, all are walk-ups, and they range in styles from early Neo-Grec, to Romanesque and Renaissance Revival.
The best, and most judiciously thought out tenements are the workers’ housing built by Alfred Tredway White, designed by Wm Field and Son, from 1876 – 1890. The Tower Building, Home Buildings, and Workingman’s Cottages are found on Warren, Baltic and Columbia Place, in Cobble Hill, while his Riverside Apartments, by the same architects, are in Bklyn Hts, on Columbia Place and Joralemon, part of which was lopped off in the building of the BQE. All of White’s tenement buildings share the same basic design, are quite beautiful, and allow light and air in through windows and air shafts. The balconies and exterior hallways prevent the foul enclosed hallways of other tenements, as well providing architectural interest. Storefronts line the street level on Columbia Place. He also provided a large courtyard in each development with a fountain, play area for children, and concert space. In spite of this, the apartments are still extremely small, especially for families. They also had indoor toilets in each unit, although, originally, common bathing facilities were located in the basements, and were available for an extra fee. A similar effort in decent worker’s housing was built by Brooklyn’s richest man, Charles Pratt, in 1885-86. The Astral Apartments, for Pratt’s Astral Oil Company workers, span a complete block of Franklin, Java and India Streets in Greenpoint. They were designed by Lamb and Rich, who also designed most of Pratt Institute. 95 families originally lived here, and because Pratt was not trying to make a profit, he added some amenities White did not. Each apartment had a toilet and a bathtub with hot and cold running water, and a dumbwaiter to the cellar was provided for trash removal. Like the White buildings, the Astral was well ventilated, and also had stores on the ground floor, and a large courtyard in the rear.
In spite of these two philanthropic projects, the majority of the tenements in Brooklyn were still beyond awful. During the Depression, the WPA tore down many of the deteriorating wood frame tenements. Very few remain today, and beginning in the 1950's, modern housing projects removed many more tenement blocks. My Flickr page has some historic photographs of the buildings and those who lived in them, as well photos of some of these buildings today. Since tenements were designed to house the workers who made the city run - the day laborers, servants, clerks and factory workers, coachmen, carpenters and dressmakers, they are often found on streets now highly desirable for the restaurants, stores and establishments that are now found on many of their commercial ground floors. Many former tenement buildings have now been reconfigured as desirable coops, condos and rentals.
Next in the series: Most late 19th century middle class apartments are not classified as tenements; they are flats, French flats to be exact. So what’s the difference?
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little did they know back then that people would be paying 250,000 in 2007 for there tenement. even more shocking to them would be that it would be considered livin large!!!
Posted by: brickoven at August 4, 2009 10:33 AM
ha! great read MM. my first apartment in nyc was in a tenement on the LES. my bedroom (well basically my only living space because the woman i subletted from used the living room as storage) was literally 6 x 7 feet. i lived in that tiny room for 4 1/2 years, 2 of those years with a large pitbull! tub in kitchen of course. thinking back tho, i dont know HOW i went 4 1/2 years without a shower. ick.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 4, 2009 10:37 AM
1st photo, like Columbia St in the Heights.
***Bid half off peak comps***
Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at August 4, 2009 10:40 AM
you guys ever seen the shower in the kitchen? anybody know the reason for that?
Posted by: brickoven at August 4, 2009 10:40 AM
Probably to wash the blood away after killing the livestock, no?
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 4, 2009 10:46 AM
my bathtub was in the kitchen brickoven. some of the apartments in my building in ludlow street just had a stand alone shower in the kitchen though. and yeah the toilet was in a tiny little closet. i liked it though.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 4, 2009 10:48 AM
BO, you mean Tub in the kitchen? yeah, had that in 1st aptmt in LES when I landed in this great country. Thought it was an improvement over my setup in China (ie wooden scoop & wooden bucket of cold water)
Posted by: more4less at August 4, 2009 10:48 AM
m4l, when I was in Vietnam in 1993, I met a guy and he took me to a "hotel" where we stayed overnight and used the cistern & scoop method.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 4, 2009 10:52 AM
Rob, that's exactly what my husbands parents have down on the LES. 5 room deep railroad tenement apt. with the bathtub in the kitchen and the water closet off to the side where I'm sure back in the day was accessible from the hallway for shared usage. My sister in law has the other one on the floor and the apts. have a door that join them through the water closets.
My husband's bedroom growing up was that same 6 x 7-ish room, no windows, no doors since it is a pass through room from the kitchen to the parlor (living room) and he shared it with his brother.
Yes, it's rent controlled. My Mother in Law says the only way she's ever leave it was feet first and laying horizontal.
MM, thanks so much for this post. My hubs is going to LOVE it.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at August 4, 2009 10:52 AM
This is a great piece, MM.
A world of information.
Thanks.
Posted by: Expert Textpert at August 4, 2009 10:53 AM
I have seen a couple of them and the I forget the reason they put them in the kitchen but I remember it was real funny
Posted by: brickoven at August 4, 2009 10:54 AM
If it is a tub in the kitchen then I assume it was there to be close to the stove where you would have to boil the water in order to take a hot bath.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 4, 2009 10:54 AM
glad it was ok to build out-of-context to replace many of these.
Posted by: Petebklyn at August 4, 2009 10:55 AM
glad it was ok to build out-of-context to replace many of these.
Posted by: Petebklyn at August 4, 2009 10:55 AM
"Thought it was an improvement over my setup in China (ie wooden scoop & wooden bucket of cold water)"
It's all relative.
Great information, MM!
Posted by: East New York at August 4, 2009 10:55 AM
The kitchen was the only warm room because of the stove and all the plumbing runs down one side of the building.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at August 4, 2009 10:56 AM
Thanks, MM. Of all your posts, I've enjoyed this one most because it's so close to home for me. I've lived in apartments like this in my early 20's, as did my parents and my grandparents when they came to this country and landed on the LES.
Everyone really needs to check out the Tenement Museum if you haven't already done so!
Posted by: rh at August 4, 2009 10:58 AM
The kitchen was the only warm room because of the stove and all the plumbing runs down one side of the building.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at August 4, 2009 10:56 AM
Same in my current home!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 4, 2009 10:58 AM
The bathtub in my in-laws set up is very tall and right next to the sink. There is a cover that fits over the tub that essentially serves as the kitchen counter. Need to take a bath? lift the cover.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at August 4, 2009 10:59 AM
THL is correct. The bathtub was put in the kitchen for two reasons: low-cost simplicity of plumbing (one vertical stack) and the ability to heat the water.
My immigrant grandfather struck it rich for a while when he came to the US by establishing a business to "upgrade" tenements. He would buy buildings (mostly in Sunset Park and Red Hook) that had no steam heat nor hot water, upgrade them to install such systems, and then sell them. He was a "flipper" of tenements.
Alas, his fortune turned for two reasons: he was the victim of a Ponzi scheme (remember that the original Ponzi preyed on Italian immigrants) and real estate crashed in the Depression. My grandfather was a broken man and skipped out on his family, leaving my grandmother to take care of 9 kids in the middle of the Depression.
Posted by: benson at August 4, 2009 11:05 AM
I lived a block away from the Astral Apartments in Greenpoint in the summer of 2000. The interior bathroom had a tub and toilet, but no sink.
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at August 4, 2009 11:06 AM
when my son grows up, I'll tell him Dad really upgraded you - you have your own bathroom vs. Dad had to share a tiny tub in kitchen with rest of the family so before you complain about "small" issues, realize how good you have it
Posted by: more4less at August 4, 2009 11:06 AM
Benson that's so unbelievable;e I can't even grasp the enormity of it. I'm sure your grandmother is a remarkable woman.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at August 4, 2009 11:11 AM
my apt was rent controlled too. the woman i subletted from had my apartment and the apt next door with a broke thru entry to connect both apartments. she paid about 350 and 450 for each apartment. mine was the 350 one. she charged me 750 then lowered it to 725 when i started doing work for her husband. the apartment next door she charged over 1000 dollars for.
when the building was sold private detectives started coming around pretending there were break ins and asking people there if they saw anyone, and asking if they lived in the apartments and for how long, etc. turns out it was the management company that set us all up in a sting operation. i totally blabbed, stupidly, and was forced to move out in a matter of a week. i guess i could have stayed but i didnt want to make waves. i had to repaint the apartment (that was neon pink that i painted) back to white and have all my stuff out ASAP so she could move back in and pretend she lived there the whole time. i was officially homeless with a dog and zero dollars in savings. i am pretty sure she got bought out. most people in the building were evicted pretty damn fast. there were a few hold outs though. i havent been back there in a while. our super was a creepy old alcoholic who lived in the cellar, but he was cool as hell and everyone in the neighborhood loved him. when a sushi restaurant opened up next door in the building they said he wasnt allowed to sit outside the building anymore :(
i loved that building, i like tenement buildings' setup. ludlow street was bad tho when it started turning into mardi gras every weekend though.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 4, 2009 11:12 AM
This is fascinating. wish I could enlarge some of these photos, would love to see the racial make-up of tenements, would a building house predominately Chinese or Irish or Jewish - or were they all mixed in together?
Posted by: tiptoe at August 4, 2009 11:12 AM
In the 1860s & later almost all houses had privies outside - in London in the 1960s there were still a lot of houses w/ no indoor toilets - just an outhouse in the backyard.
Posted by: Arkady at August 4, 2009 11:15 AM
guh-ross arkady! no wonder so many people from europe have skid marks.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 4, 2009 11:20 AM
That's some story, Benson. Wow.
Posted by: East New York at August 4, 2009 11:23 AM
This is a great piece.
To this day I recall my mom yelling at me when I would hang my towel up to dry on her condo terrace in LI,stating "people will think you live in a tenement, take down that wet towel now"!
I'm with Tiptoe - would love to know who were living in these buildings together? Did you have 1 tenement bldg filled with only irish and another building filled with jewish etc? or were they all mixed in together?
Also were black people allowed to live in tenements along with the whites?
Posted by: gemini10 at August 4, 2009 11:23 AM
My Mexican bf lives in a very, very small town in southern Mexico. they have the largest house in town. Everybody has an outdoor kitchen and an outdoor bathroom & shower. It's basically a cistern on the roof and the water flows down to the shower. I love the outdoor kitchens. the outdoor bathrooms, not so much.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 4, 2009 11:25 AM
Always so interesting and informative MM, and such great photos! Thank you! : )
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 4, 2009 11:25 AM
on my bedroom door in my tenement there was a little latch (there was no door, but maybe back in the day there was). i pulled it off and inside was a scroll with hebrew writing on it. it was super old!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 4, 2009 11:28 AM
wish i could be around in 200 years when someone does a written piece about fedders buildings and glass box condos. i could only imagine what they will say about such living!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 4, 2009 11:30 AM
I have to say that I’m having a bit of a hard time with this post and most comments. I lived in a Chinatown/Little Italy tenement for many years during the 1970s-80s. (Born in Brooklyn much earlier, returned to Brooklyn mid-80s.) Our apartment had a tub in the kitchen and toilet in the hall. That meant you had to leave your apartment to use the toilet. That also meant that during the winter, when you’d live for months on end without heat and hot water, the toilet would freeze, and you’d use a bucket. The tenants on our block and in our building were mostly a mix of Italian, Dominican and Chinese. The gentrifying newcomers were referred to (kindly) as “young Americans.”
Reading these comments reminds me somewhat of the tourists during the San Gennaro festival: the crowds of gawkers who’d point with mock horror and ask
“do people really live here?” and whose only tenement “experience” is through museum exhibits. The apartments with showers in the kitchens are ones where tenants themselves made “upgrades”—swapping out clawfoot tubs for showers and adding a few precious square feet of living space. All these apartments originally had only cold-running water. As late as the 80s and beyond, due to real slumlords (not the epithet thrown around so casually on Brownstoner), you had to put a giant pot of water up to boil at night, and wake up to water cascading down every wall where the steam condensed. Many of the older, currently-reviled/envied RC/RS tenants still live in these conditions, though 311 has made it a little easier to get relief.
MM, thanks for the post. Sorry that there was no mention of Jacob Riis, whose activism, photojournalism and seminal book, “How the Other Half Lives,” did so much to target the owners and expose the misery of tenement life. I hope you can refer to him in the second of your series.
Posted by: vinca at August 4, 2009 11:42 AM
it is called a mezuzah , Rob. not a latch.
Posted by: Petebklyn at August 4, 2009 11:43 AM
Gemini;
I can WELL relate to your story about your mom's expression. My parents would say the same thing.
The funny thing is that I'm the same way. I live in a 46 unit condo development which has balconies facing a court yard. I and another resident are always railing against the lax policies regarding the balconies. Wouldn't you know: I and this other resident are "white-ethnic" NY'ers from the old immigrant stock.
THL;
Yes, I must say that my grandmother was a remarkable, saintly woman. Not only did she face this hardship, but she came here in remarkable circumstances. Her mother died when she was about 13. Her father remarried, and her step-mother had no use for her. When she was 16, she was packed off on a ship to NY, all by herself. When I think of her situation, I never complain about any problems that come my way.
Posted by: benson at August 4, 2009 11:44 AM
Montrose:
The historic photo at the top of your post is a great one!
Who were these people? What became of them? How did they see themselves in Brooklyn of the time?
Housing is, above everything else, about people, the vast majority of them anonymous.
Were the ones in these tenements told they were to depict life in a "slum" (as noted on the photograph)? Or did the photographer merely ask them to pose? Blowing up the image, it's possible to see a woman bent over her child giving what appears to be the smile of a proud mother.
There are families and individuals here, not slum "types."
Taking Kenneth Jackson's History of New York City course at Columbia many years ago, I learned that around 1900 75-percent of the city lived in tenements because most people were poor, the Lower East Side had a population density the same as Calcutta, the city's murder rate was over 700 people year (with today's much larger population, the equivalent of 2,300), the jails were filled with immigrants and their children (approximately one third of them Jewish, which correlated with ethnic poverty rates at the time), and there were 50,000 homeless children roaming the streets.
Park Slope, Clinton Hill, Brooklyn Heights, etc. represent only a small piece of the city back in the day.
What did the people pictured above think of Brownstone Brooklyn, if they thought of it at all?
Nostalgic on Park Avenue
Posted by: NOP at August 4, 2009 12:16 PM
Jacob Riis did amazing work. My mother grew up in Hell's Kitchen. My father's family moved around- but always into another tenement. My father grew up hating anything old (except people)- furniture, houses, dishes.... everything had to be new and modern. To the best of my knowledge tenements were a mix of Jewish, Italian and Irish in most neighborhoods. A wonderful book is East River by Sholem Asch- it captures the flavor of tenement NYC, and it is rich and teeming with life.
Posted by: bxgrl at August 4, 2009 12:19 PM
benson- that was an amazing story. My grandmother and my mother and her twin sister came over by boat to join my grandfather. My grandmother spoke broken English years later but then none. My grandfather died 6 months after they arrived so the other 2 girls were left in Russia. One was wiped out with her family by the Germans, the other came after she was grown up.
My mother talked about growing up- not about the hardships really, but about the people they loved, the good things that happened. Making sure my Aunt got her high school diploma, while my mom went to work.
My father's family was a bit wilder, although I don't know very much about them. Lots of kids and my father went to work at 10 years old to help support them.
Posted by: bxgrl at August 4, 2009 12:25 PM
Thank you, MM. Thank you, Vinca. To both of you, thanks. . . as usual.
Posted by: Brooklynista at August 4, 2009 12:25 PM
BTW, you might enjoy this story about tenement life and Ellen Eddy Shaw, the founder of the Brooklyn Botanic Garden's Children's Garden: http://www.bbg.org/edu/children/cg_history.html
I never met Ms. Shaw, but I knew her successor Ms. Frances M. Miner—another remarkable woman.
Posted by: vinca at August 4, 2009 12:32 PM
I happened to go to the Tenement Museum for the first time last weekend. Indeed, there was no plumbing at all in the tenements built in the 1860s or so. In that particular building, a laundry tub with a cold tap was added to each kitchen and a toilet was put into the hallway around the turn of the century. Sometime later, maybe in the 1920s, the building added hot and cold running water in a wall-hung sink in the kitchen next to the laundry tub. The apartments never had tubs or showers. Families of seven slept in three rooms, some of them on crates, couches, chairs, or combinations thereof.
Now the funny thing is, immigrants are still living in similar conditions now, though fortunately the plumbing has improved, though it's still inadequate and these places are still firetraps. In Bushwick, for example, it's common for 12 unmarried people, including mothers with children, to share one bathroom and kitchen on one floor with four or five rooms for sleeping. Also for families with three adults (a sibling plus a married couple) to split similar apartments. I'm sure conditions are similar in Sunset Park, Bay Ridge, parts of the Bronx, etc.
One apartment I saw was particularly well kept, with a fold-up wooden bed frame for the parents tucked up against a wall during the day in the living/dining/kitchen, bunk beds for the boys in one room, and two beds for the girls in the front room. An additional tiny room was being used as a walk-in closet.
Posted by: mopar at August 4, 2009 12:33 PM
Bxgrl;
Thanks - it seems like there were alot of such stories back then. My folks also loved anything new.
Today it is fashionable to look back on the 50's suburbs and mock the drive for something new! new! new! and peaceful back then. However, as someone once explained to me - imagine growing up in the Depression in a 6-story walk-up tenement surrounded by crime and poverty, and then getting shipped off to fight in WWII and witnessing that devastation. Coming off those experiences, what was not to like about the peace and serentity of a Levitt Town???
Posted by: benson at August 4, 2009 12:36 PM
Wow, I'm glad this story strikes a cord. My research into this issue was fascinating in ways both horrible and interesting. I too, wonder about the lives of those in the photos, especially the children. Some of the pictures date as close as the 1950's, so many of those people should still be alive. Often, kids don't know the conditions they live in are awful, it's all they know, and kids the world over can play and run in the most horrific poverty, and appalling conditions. Look at Slumdog Millionaire.
Of course, Jacob Riis' writings brought the tenement conditions to the forefront, as did the work of many people known and unknown who worked to improve things. We haven't gotten there yet, in many ways. I didn't include him only because I was trying to keep the piece as short as possible, and relate it specifically to Brooklyn, as much as possible. As it is, it's longer than most of my pieces, and we all know I can blather on. I didn't do too much in-depth research as to ethnic groups living where, especially in Bkln. It would be a great topic for a dissertation, or book. I would imagine, the large immigrant ethnic groups, the Irish, Jewish, Italian, Polish, black and Hispanic, all kept to themselves as much as possible, for their own safety and security, as well as ease in culture, language, food, worship, etc. Most groups eventually ended up interacting, but not always peacefully. Stories like "Gangs of New York", even "West Side Story" are based on fact and history.
Since my focus is architectural history, I'd love to find out more about Brooklyn's tenement history. Aside from the photos from the Brooklyn Public Library, I could find few real Brooklyn pictures, and little information on exact location of many of them. The Cobble Hill photo with the buildings with the rounded backs - were those staircases inside? Bathroom facilities? Do any of them still exist? Do any of the wood frame buildings still stand in neighborhoods like Bushwick, Brownsville or Williamsburg? Anyone know?
Posted by: Montrose Morris at August 4, 2009 12:40 PM
BTW, if there are tenements as described in this article in Bushwick, I've never seen one. The apartments there are indeed multi-family housing, mostly railroad, but they were built with bathrooms for each apartment (or floor) from the beginning. That's the difference. They did not have the bathtub in the kitchen with one common toilet in the hall. Otherwise, I'd certainly call them tenements.
One interesting oddity of Bushwick two-family buildings, though, is that the apartments did not always have a front door. This means the bathroom (an original bathroom, with tub, sink, toilet, and window or skylight) would appear to be "outside" the apartment across the hall.
Posted by: mopar at August 4, 2009 12:44 PM
Our Park Slope "Brownstone" is clearly an old tenement.
When my husband's grandparents came to visit (Jewish, both grew up on the UWS) his grandmother said, "I just can't believe that you guys worked 1/2 your life to buy the same place that my parents worked so hard to get out of."
It is pretty funny.
Posted by: pmmtenement at August 4, 2009 12:49 PM
Coincidentally, to our mutual amazement, our Tenement Museum guide grew up in a tenement on Macdonough and Bainbridge -- literally two blocks from where we are moving to. He is white (maybe Jewish -- I didn't ask). He said the rent was $28 in 1938 and increased to $32 by the early 1950s. In the early 50s, as the neighborhood became progressively more African American, his family moved to Maspeth. He said buying a new house was very cheap back then, so why wouldn't you?
Posted by: mopar at August 4, 2009 12:55 PM
Montrose, plenty of wooden buildings in Bushwick. Most of them are wooden (covered by beautiful aluminum siding of course). They follow the same pattern as the brick buildings. Perhaps the reason you don't see these outside wooden staircases anywhere is because the law abolished wood and mandated metal fire escapes.
If you're interested, I can sketch every floor plan for you. Most of them have parlors in the front with dining rooms in the back, a small kitchen and bathroom on the side, with the bedrooms in the center. No one likes this arrangement, of course, so usually the interior walls are ripped out to make one large open center room, and the two big rooms on each end are closed off and used as bedrooms -- or sometimes the one in the back is used as a combined DR/LR/family room.
Mostly this pattern seems to date from the 1890s through the 1910s. The older part of the neighborhood, which radiated out from the Dutch Church and the breweries along Bushwick Ave., has more brownstone and freestanding type houses.
Posted by: mopar at August 4, 2009 1:06 PM
i found this article extremely interesting. frankly i'm amazed that these type of apartments still exist with tubs or showers in the kitchen.
Posted by: bkny at August 4, 2009 1:08 PM
Rob, they still make those "latches" today, so it's probably not some great historic find. LOL.
Posted by: rh at August 4, 2009 1:11 PM
Thanks, Mopar, that would be great. I've always wondered if some of Bushwick's wood frames were configured as tenements, I guess they are. I'm sure elsewhere as well. While walking around Bed Stuy and Crown Heights yesterday, Amzi Hill and I figured a lot of buildings on commercial streets could be tenements, but a lot could also be flats, bachelor flats, at least. (Next article in 2 weeks) so I didn't include them in my photos. Sometimes there wasn't much difference, anyway. It's all very interesting, and all a part of what makes a neighborhood.
Has anyone been in the Riverside or other White buildings in the Heights or Cobble Hill? Anyone lived there, or in the Astral? (thanks 6days!)
Posted by: Montrose Morris at August 4, 2009 1:22 PM
Tiptoe and Gem, ethnic groups would cluster in particular neighborhoods, but you'd still have mixes of different groups living in one building. For example, in the Tenement Museum building in one year, there were Sephardic Jews speaking Greek, Sephardic Jews speaking Spanish, Italian Catholics, Russian Jews, etc. One Catholic lady said she was honored when her Jewish neighbors asked her to turn their lights on and off for them on the Sabbath.
Posted by: mopar at August 4, 2009 1:26 PM
The subways probably had a lot to do with tenement development in Brooklyn. People started moving out of the Lower East Side and into Williamsburg. My bf's mom grew up in Williamsburg -- as far as I know, her parents moved there directly from Poland/Russia/Palestine in the early 1920s, before the anti-immigration law was passed. His uncle owned a factory in Bushwick. His father's family was from the Bronx. His parents moved to a nice new house in Connecticut in the 1950s and his mom is a little bit exasperated with our preference for an old place in the city.
Posted by: mopar at August 4, 2009 1:32 PM
Can't wait to hear about French flats and bachelor flats!
Montrose, if you want you can email me at moparbrownstoner at gmail. I've got something I want to ask you also.
Posted by: mopar at August 4, 2009 1:34 PM
"French flats" were tenements!
One of the the lessons I picked up from Jackson's history course at Columbia was that ALL New York City multiple-family buildings containing three or more apartments were legally classified tenements (unless they were hotels) until a new housing law in the 1920s changed the designation "tenement" to "multiple-family dwelling."
And that means that a lot of grand buildings, including ones along Prospect Park West, Eastern Parkway, etc., if built before the 1920s, were tenements, although their builders may have advertised them as French flats to appeal to an "up" market.
Granted there were changes in tenement laws from the 1860s to the 1920s, but even the fanciest buildings on Park Avenue were guided by their rules regarding windows, room sizes, construction standards, emergency egress, etc. (Ever see the backs of a lot of high-rise Fifth Avenue apartments? They have fire escapes!)
And yes, Montrose, many of the three- and four-story buildings on top of shops in Crown Heights and Bedford Stuyvesant would be classified as tenements.
I had a friend who lived in one of them back in the 50s, when I was a boy. His place was a classic railroad flat, sharing the floor with an identical apartment. With two floors above a storefront there were four apartments in the building, making it a tenement.
W's apartment was cramped, dark and simply furnished. Different from any of my other friends' fathers, his dad wore overalls to work. One thing tenements did was accommodate working-class families in otherwise middle-class neighborhoods -- a social benefit for kids of all backgrounds, who mixed. And with stores on the ground floor, these homely little buildings offered services to everybody -- as they do to this day along Brownstone Brooklyn's Seventh and Fifth Avenues, Fulton Street, and Nostrand Avenue.
Posted by: NOP at August 4, 2009 2:06 PM
Great posts Montrose. Please keep them coming!!
Posted by: boerumite at August 4, 2009 2:15 PM
Great posts Montrose. Please keep them coming!!
Posted by: boerumite at August 4, 2009 2:17 PM
Mopar and all;
Your posts touch on an aspect of NYC housing that is not much discussed today (expect by my cranky old dad, perhaps) as such:
-you are indeed correct that housing in NYC (both old and new) was relatively cheap in those days. A part of this had to do with the attitude towards housing, which (according to my dad) was completely different back then. A house, meaning the building itself, was largely viewed as a depreciating asset, much in the way a car is thought of today. If you were rich or reasonably well off, you bought or rented a new house or apartment, and someone of lesser means lived in a "used" home.
-Given this status, there was virtually no "home remodelling" industry at that time. As my dad puts it, in those days people "used a house until it wore out'. The only upgrades were in the mechanical systems, like my grandfather did. Indeed, a few years ago I was going through microfilm rolls of the 1939 Tax Photos in the Municipal Archives, and I was struck how all of the exteriors were the same as the day they had been built, no matter how modest or shabby the home. No aluminum siding or replacement windows back then!
-Since a building was not considered an "investment" as it is now, homes did not appreciate in value. Only the land was considered to have value. According my dad, the biggest concern was not the price, but the upkeep cost. He tells me the story of how the VFW he belonged to in Red Hook had a huge fund-raising campaign in which the top prize was a new home in Dyker Heights - for free! More incredibly, the winner turned down the prize, as he felt he could not afford its upkeep!!!
-interestingly, buildings are still viewed this way in some countries - Japan, for instance. The Japanese place little value on a typical home. To them, it is a depreciating asset that wears out. Only the land has value that appreciates, especially given its scracity there.
Posted by: benson at August 4, 2009 2:48 PM
I now live in a gut-rehabbed tenement building that used to have a mirror-image twin, long since torn down, so you can see the outlines of the dumbell airshaft and the old fireplaces, four to a floor. So half of my "small" railroad apartment would have been three tiny rooms, home to a family plus boarders. (My old boss, who was in his 70's in the 1970s, an Irishman from Third Avenue in Manhattan, remembered that he was a grown man before he knew couches came without new arrivals from Ireland asleep on them.)And one of my friends lived in an unrenovated railroad flat on the sixth floor of a building in Alphabet City, five tiny rooms in a row and a linoleum-lidded bathtub in the kitchen. The rent was in two figures. It was heated by Con Ed steam, not a gas or oil boiler, or it would have been a serious firetrap. That was in the 1970s.
I was inside the Tower building in the 80s, on a house tour just before a major reno, and got to see one of the original bathrooms. It had a tank high on the wall with a long chain, something you still see all over England. The room was dank and dark, but at least it was private.
Posted by: crat at August 4, 2009 7:21 PM
Ms. Montrose,
I live near the Riverside Houses and have many friends there. Please contact me privately(can you do that through the blog?) and I will be very happy to set you up with a long-time resident or two who can give you a tour.
Thanks.
Posted by: bklyn20 at August 5, 2009 12:02 PM






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