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August 20, 2009

Rental Picks: Bed-Stuy Edition

A few of the apartments for rent in Bed Stuy that caught our eye:
1) Throop and Hart, 3 bedrooms, 1.5 bathrooms, $2,375
2) Lafayette and Nostrand, 3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, backyard, $2,600
3) Patchen and Gares, 1 bedroom, 1 bathroom, $1,345
4) Kosciusko and Throop, 2 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, $1,545
5) Kosciusko and Marcy, 1 bedroom duplex, 2 bathrooms, garden, $1,400

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StreetEasy Stats for Bed Stuy Rentals:
- 67 listings
- 15 one-bedrooms; $1,435 average
- 36 two-bedrooms; $1,565 average
- 11 three-bedrooms; $1,898 average
- 3 four-bedrooms; $2,633 average

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Are these former condo units that failed to sell? They look nice. I like this thread by the way. Will you be doing this weekly with different nabes highlighted?

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 20, 2009 10:35 AM

Sorry - Shiny new appliances or not, 1,400 bucks is alot of scratch for a 1 bedroom.

Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 20, 2009 10:38 AM

I don't know the rental market for this area. What is a good price on these?

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 20, 2009 10:39 AM

These places are all northern Bed Stuy, closer to Broadway. Yes, most look newly renovated. Some are even a bit of a walk from the JMZ trains.

I rent my garden level one bedroom with new granite kitchen and new bath plus yard rights plus W/D in basement for $1,200 on Stuyvesant Ave, 5 minute walk to the A train.

I think these are overpriced.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 20, 2009 10:41 AM

I suspect these all came from a post on the bedstuyblog

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 20, 2009 10:41 AM

some of these are on some pretty crap blocks in bed stuy. $2,375 for throop ave and hart street? ugh.

Posted by: aj at August 20, 2009 10:43 AM

Dave, is your rental priced below market? Or is it spot on? That sounds like a sweet price for all that you include.

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 20, 2009 10:44 AM

dibs, you only get $1200 cuz your rental is TACKY! Granite and a new bath, yuck. Surely some of those original tasteful brownstones would rent for a lot more. You know, cast iron wood-burning stove, icebox, and gas lighting.

Posted by: denton at August 20, 2009 10:45 AM

1200 is the sweet spot for a one bedroom, dibs has it correct. it's do-able for a single person who wants to live alone. when youre charging 1500 for a one bedroom you most likely will 2 tenants who are a couple. then they break up, one moves out, 2-3 riff-raff friends are invited to stay to help the rent, and turn your apartment into a crack den. moral of the story? price your apartment (1 bedrooms) as if you want just ONE person living there.

*rob*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 20, 2009 10:46 AM

When I first rented it in Feb 08, I believe I might have been about $100 or so below market. I did not raise the rent in 2009. I have excellent tenants.

I think these prices are too high up in that neck of the woods. Walk around and see!!!!

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 20, 2009 10:49 AM

I totally agree Rob... and that's my price range, max 1250. But I guess everyone is supposed to have a six-figure income even to rent. $1200 for a one-bedroom (of course not in BH or North Slope) seems to me like it should be more common... so adults can live like adults. But that's not how it works I guess. Sucks to be me. :-)

Posted by: tybur6 at August 20, 2009 10:52 AM

Oh, and I have to add... $1,345 for Patchen and Gates? $1345 for a one-bed in Bushwick?! Seriously!?

Posted by: tybur6 at August 20, 2009 10:54 AM

I must be hopelessly out of touch. The Avalon Greene prices yesterday, and now this!
These prices are insanely high.

Posted by: Maly at August 20, 2009 11:02 AM

Thank heavens my rent hasn't reached 1200...my cheap @ss would cry.

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 20, 2009 11:02 AM

actually patchen and gates is still bed-stuy, tybur6. east of broadway is bushwick.

Posted by: aj at August 20, 2009 11:07 AM

I think these prices are extremely optimistic, to say the least. 1 bedroom duplex with garden is the only one that sounds reasonable at $1400, since it includes the garden and is a duplex. I think the immediate neighborhood's not great though.

Posted by: Heather at August 20, 2009 11:08 AM

Yeah... I know AJ... but it's not exactly "prime" Bed-Stuy. It's out there.

Posted by: tybur6 at August 20, 2009 11:09 AM

I agree...all of them are overpriced. Folks can't afford those prices. Plus the neighborhood doesn't warrant such high prices. I love Bed-Stuy...went to school there and I currently attend church in the neighborhood but I would not pay those prices in Bed-Stuy.

Posted by: A CrownHeightsLady at August 20, 2009 11:10 AM

1500 for kosciusko and throop? i'm sorry i cant condone this crap. not when there's like stray dogs and M80s going off. throop ave is like one of the worst streets in bed-stuy...

Posted by: aj at August 20, 2009 11:14 AM

11217 is probably going to wake up any second, log on, and scream at us all saying we're all whiners and we think they are too high cuz we cant afford it.

or maybe he'll just say something nasty about the neighborhood in general and then talk about you know where.

*rob*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 20, 2009 11:16 AM

Not to mention that I'm not fully confident I know how to pronounce *either* kosciusko or throop properly.... that should figure into the rental price.

Posted by: tybur6 at August 20, 2009 11:17 AM

rob, he probably wont come on this thread. no listings for studio apartments.

Posted by: aj at August 20, 2009 11:18 AM

tybur6, phonetically its said like "ka-shoos-ko", and if you're from brooklyn you say "troop"

Posted by: aj at August 20, 2009 11:19 AM

Throop is pronounced "Troop" I think Kosciusko is fairly phonetic. Putnam is "pootnam"

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 20, 2009 11:20 AM

It's kos-kee-oos-koh and the "h" in throop is silent.

Posted by: A CrownHeightsLady at August 20, 2009 11:25 AM

Is anyone else bothered by the fact that, I think, only ONE of the GMap links in these craigslist ads actually *works*!!

Seriously, you're renting an apartment... why wouldn't you take an effing minute to make sure you spelled everything correctly and typed the right things in the right fields on the craigslist form. It's not friggin' rocket science.

I hope these renovations were handled with the same level of care.

Posted by: tybur6 at August 20, 2009 11:25 AM

lol @ crownheightslady thats how the hood says it....i did the polish pronounciation.

Posted by: aj at August 20, 2009 11:26 AM

They're not overpriced if the LL is able to get what she/he is asking.

Posted by: East New York at August 20, 2009 11:26 AM

it's 'troop' and not 'trope'? Trope would be how you pronounce it in dutch.

Pootnam! I like that. I just like saying poot.

Posted by: tybur6 at August 20, 2009 11:27 AM

I live close to Broadway on the Bed-Stuy side and I have to agree I think these prices are high because there ain't a whole lot going on over here but believe it or not they are not that out of line depending on the apt. There is a building directly behind me and one two doors one, both newly renovated that were renting 2 bedroom, one baths for about $1750 and 3 bedroom 1 baths for $1900 (approx.) at the beginning of the summer. And if I'm not mistaken they are all rented now by what looks like the archetypes for the hipster stereotype. No washing machines in the apts either. True there aren't a lot of amenities but the subway runs great.

Posted by: Tdeezy at August 20, 2009 11:28 AM

AJ...and what hood would that be?

Posted by: A CrownHeightsLady at August 20, 2009 11:28 AM

AJ...and what hood would that be?

Posted by: A CrownHeightsLady at August 20, 2009 11:28 AM

tybur, not sure that there are any Dutch left around that neck of the woods. Of course Stuyvesant is VERY Dutch as well.

When i moved to Stuyvesant Ave I knew how to spell it without a problem because there was a "Stuyvesant Plaza" near where I grew up in Albany.

No one i ever speak to on the phone would know how to spell it or even say it correctly once they've written it down.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 20, 2009 11:30 AM

DIBS does your rental price include utilities or do the tenants handle their own?

I think the prices on these four are a little high but all the properties look like the owner cared about creating a nice functional living space. There is a premium for "pretty" that a lot of people will pay and if the landlord covers the utilities the tenants can make this work, especially the shares.

Posted by: bedstuy11216 at August 20, 2009 11:31 AM

Also, don't forget DeKalb is pronounced DEEEEkalb

Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 20, 2009 11:35 AM

No Dutch left on Throop!?! Next thing you're gonna tell me is that there's no forest left in Flatbush!! AAACK!

Seriously, if these were cheaper and I worked in Manhattan or downtown Bklyn, I'd definitely consider these places... though, not at these prices. The duplex with the garden seems to be the only one that makes sense to me. Though, I'd still need a second income (aka sugar mama) to help pay the rent.

And it's shocking that Streeteasy has the Bed-Stuy rentals averaging over $1400 for 1-beds. Very shocking.

Posted by: tybur6 at August 20, 2009 11:38 AM

They pay their own gas & electric but it includes heat and hot water of course.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 20, 2009 11:43 AM

section 8 is also partially to blame for ridiculously high prices in the hood. if a landlord accepts section 8 they can charge the top end of the spectrum for rent with a guaranteed payment every month. tho these are one bedrooms so most likely it wont be for section 8. but section 8 sets the bar for landlords who arent section 8 to keep rents high.

as *f*d up as it is to say, if i was a female id so get knocked up and qualify for section 8. hells it's WHY 3/4 of young women in this city DO get pregnant. just ask around. ask THEM in fact they will freely admit it. and good for them maybe, take all you can, but it still sucks and hurts the rest of us

*rob*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 20, 2009 11:44 AM

tybur, i don't see how it's possible that 1 bedrooms in Bed Stuy AVERAGE over $1,400.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 20, 2009 11:44 AM

DIBS... I agree. But that's what it says above, thus my shock! I guess Bed-Stuy is the new Cobble Hill!

Posted by: tybur6 at August 20, 2009 11:50 AM

" I guess Bed-Stuy is the new Cobble Hill!"

That's what I saw in its potential when I was looking!!!

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 20, 2009 11:53 AM

I can understand $1,400 for something like what Dave is renting - in prime 'pretty' bed stuy. but not up near the G/J trains. You can get the same or cheaper in another neighborhood with better transport and amenities.

Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 20, 2009 12:06 PM

@ DaveinBedStuy I have to disagree though this area is not Stuyvesant Heights
the Northern part of Bed Stuy is actually transforming The JMZ commute is actually better than the A and the going price for a 1 bedroom duplex, 2 bathrooms, garden $1400 sounds correct and to be honest they are great looking apartments

Posted by: mysideofstuy at August 20, 2009 12:10 PM

These are all overpriced, possibly because they're all renovated.

Of the lot, No. 2 and No. 3 are best located with the best subway access and also happen to have the nicest layouts (from what you can see in the photographs). Specifically, Gates & Patchen may be near the projects, but it's also on top of the police station and close to the subway. No. 2 is closest to Pratt and also close to the subway.

They all seem to be aimed at Pratt students. I am not a Pratt student, so can't judge if these are desirable.

None of these are what I would look for in a rental in Bed Stuy. If I were a single mother, a couple, or a couple with one child, a 1.5 bedroom floor through on the top floor of a brownstone in Stuyvesant Heights for $1200 to $1300 with a nice landlord who lives in the building and all the original details and close to the A Utica would be ideal.

That's the beauty of Bed Stuy.

Posted by: mopar at August 20, 2009 12:11 PM

Th JM commute cannot be shorter than the A to midtown...It's 5 stops from Myrtle to get to the East Village just for the luxury of catching the awful F train. It's a lot slower on those elevated tracks than on the A line. The JM ride was my first experience into bed Stuy.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 20, 2009 12:23 PM

they are all over priced.

Posted by: armchairwarrior at August 20, 2009 12:31 PM

I take the J train every morning and I can get to the Empire state building in 30mins taking the express J and the express Q
the A train to me is fast but not as fast as the J

Posted by: mysideofstuy at August 20, 2009 12:33 PM

these apartments aside, I really like this new feature so I hope it continues.

Posted by: bowl of dicks at August 20, 2009 12:41 PM

Have you all taken a walk around the norther part of Bed Stuy to observe what is going on? some of the apt especially located cusp Bushwick is completely changing I have been in the
area for 5 years and noticed the complete transformation.
Some of these prices for rent are not far off especially for these newly renovated apartment

Posted by: mysideofstuy at August 20, 2009 12:43 PM

acrownheights lady, your pronounciation is of kosciusko is how they say it in the stuy

Posted by: aj at August 20, 2009 12:51 PM

"dibs, you only get $1200 cuz your rental is TACKY! Granite and a new bath, yuck. Surely some of those original tasteful brownstones would rent for a lot more. You know, cast iron wood-burning stove, icebox, and gas lighting."

Ha ha ha, Denton, we're going to test your theory. Just kidding.

Posted by: mopar at August 20, 2009 1:04 PM

They arent overpriced if you individually can't afford them Rob - they are overpriced if they cant get rented at the asking price. I also wouldnt be so sure that these arent units where the tenant pays their own heat - most new buildings (whci at least a couple seem to be) are setup like that.

I dont know the neighborhood all that well so I cant say for sure but a 1br with 2baths and a garden is pretty rare - so if it isnt totally misleading I'd say that is a good price. The rest....I think it truly depends on the immediate neighborhood

Posted by: fsrg at August 20, 2009 1:07 PM

Tybur6, I would be unlikely to rent from someone whose google map didn't work. I'd be afraid they're not conscientious. Or, more likely, a broker.

Is that ridiculous?

Posted by: mopar at August 20, 2009 1:12 PM

The rental rates attest to why they're still available.
(You have got to be kidding me! Bed Stuy?)

***Bid half off peak comps***

Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at August 20, 2009 1:14 PM

Tdeezy, my landlady also has been hitting up the hipsters and getting $1900 for rentals in Bushwick. What is up with that? I thought they were all supposed to be moving back to Williamsburg now that all the condos there are half off.

Posted by: mopar at August 20, 2009 1:15 PM

Also, Snappy, I believe rents of $600 to $800 per person are more the norm -- at least this is true on the JMZ side of things. I really don't know what the market is in the Pratt area. Maybe it's higher. Does anyone know?

Posted by: mopar at August 20, 2009 1:19 PM

MySideofStuy, in my experience the JMZ is very convenient if you commute to the LES or Wall Street. But I have found it very difficult to get to Grand Central. The L is much better. Have you had a different experience?

Posted by: mopar at August 20, 2009 1:22 PM

The 3brs definitly seem rich to me but - no matter how you slice it the 1 & 2 brs cant be THAT overpriced - I mean where in NYC can you get a decent apartment for below $1100? And these are at least attractively renovated.

Posted by: fsrg at August 20, 2009 1:29 PM

@ Mopar...
you can take the J train to Brooklyn Bridge/Chambers and
transfer to the 4 train uptown which also goes express and head to 42nd st Grand Central. I do not frequent the L train only because it is a little out of the way for me.

Posted by: mysideofstuy at August 20, 2009 1:31 PM

For all of you commenting that the rates don't look unreasonable, I bet you've never been on these blocks.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 20, 2009 1:46 PM

"For all of you commenting that the rates don't look unreasonable, I bet you've never been on these blocks."

Sorry - one bedrooms around there shouldn't be more than 1,000 bucks.

Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 20, 2009 1:49 PM

dh, i think you misread what I typed.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 20, 2009 1:55 PM

Mysideofstuy...I think we can agree that the area question has improved over the last 5 years...BUT they have not improved that much. Give it a few more years and MAYBE this prices will make sense. The area needs some more work.

Posted by: A CrownHeightsLady at August 20, 2009 2:04 PM

I havent been on those blocks and I freely admited that I was unfamiliar with the area involved BUT I am familiar with rental rates in other 'less than prime' parts of NYC and I can say that it is extremely rare to find a below 1K apartment anywhere in NYC.

Posted by: fsrg at August 20, 2009 2:08 PM

i was agreeing with you DIBS - but it came out wrong.

How much did stuff around here rent for in the year 2000?

Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 20, 2009 2:12 PM

Clarification: $600 to $800 per person IN A SHARED ROOMMATE SITUATION. Absolutely, one bedrooms are usually at least $1,000 and generally more like $1200. I've actually never heard of a studio for less than $900. (I'm talking about market rate of course.)

Posted by: mopar at August 20, 2009 2:21 PM

Yeah, that transfer will be soon be my new commute. Unfortunately, it does take 40 to 50 minutes. Whereas the same commute on the L is 30 to 40. Oh well.

Posted by: mopar at August 20, 2009 2:22 PM

I live further south, near the Nostrand stop on the A. The blocks by the J/Z vary a lot--some are beautiful and some are really, really ugly and some are scary. More consistently nice down here and better services too.

I am renting a floor-through 1.5-bedroom (above the parlor, but not the top floor--much cooler in the summer and higher ceilings than right under the roof!) in a brownstone for $1300 but my landlord had a lot of trouble getting the same for the parlor floor during the winter. I think he had to go down $100, and that apartment includes gas and electric. But I think the rental market has recovered a bit since winter.

Posted by: rf at August 20, 2009 2:25 PM

But it's improved enough to get these prices. I know it's hard to believe, along the J isn't pretty but I'm telling you, there's a certain set of people that are actually seeking out living there. The transportation really is pretty good especially if you just need to go downtown. I used to live off the C in Clinton Hill and that train can be very irregular. Long delays between trains even in rush hour with A trains flying by. Here the J runs like clockwork. Also, farther south in BedStuy you might end up far from the A/C line and I'm sorry but I don't think the G is that great of a train.
This is coming from someone who would really much rather live further south but we wanted to buy and we couldn't afford a place that we like anywhere else so there it is.

Posted by: Tdeezy at August 20, 2009 2:31 PM

One thing....there is an excellent dive Mexican restaurant called Taco Poblano on broadway just south of Throop.

The goat barbacoa is really good.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 20, 2009 2:39 PM

Thanks, Dave. I will definitely check that out.

BTW, I don't know if you have an interest, but the butcher Marlowe & Daughters on Broadway near Berry has amazing homemade duck & pork liverwurst sausage. (Many other good things too.) It's very tasty on the quarter round Amy's bread they sell.

Posted by: mopar at August 20, 2009 2:51 PM

@ CrownHeightsLady yes i would say the some parts of North Bed Stuy needs work, but as I stated before that there has been an influx of people who are moving(those who can no longer afford Williamsburg) into the neighborhood. I see this just riding on the J train every day it is amazing.I love Stuyvesant Heights especially McDonough between Stuyveant & Lewis my favorite block but North Stuy is going through this great transformation>
I just wish that Broadway had more to offer such as coffee shops like Athom and book stores, etc.

Posted by: mysideofstuy at August 20, 2009 2:57 PM

mopar, thanks but that's way tto far from me. A quick trip to Boerum Hill and Smith & Hoyt is where I get everytthing these days

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 20, 2009 2:58 PM

Tdeezy, congrats on your place.

I have a friend near the Gates stop who just rented to some recent Pratt graduates.

Seems like there are some interesting businesses in the area, many of them new. Market Hotel, Athom Cafe, Goodbye Blue Monday, the Beauty Bar and, further afield, Tandem. But I thought people were still more interested in the L train side -- no?

Posted by: mopar at August 20, 2009 3:03 PM

Oh, I see, that's right on the A/C. Very convenient.

Posted by: mopar at August 20, 2009 3:10 PM

If you're heading up near grand central you can take the J to Canal and get the 6 there as well.

I think the Williamsburg/Greenpoint refugees split into two camps. A slightly upscaler set goes towards the L and a bit of a earthier set gravitates to the area around Broadway. It's a lot less showey(so far) and more neighborhoody. A lot like the difference between South and North Williamsburg in fact.

Posted by: bunkerlabs at August 20, 2009 3:19 PM

I was getting $2600 for my 3BR duplex last year, but my tenants renegotiated and it's now $2250. If it was empty, I'd probably try for $2350, but I didn't want to lose them over a hundred bucks.

The other tenants have been there since 2006. They pay $1450 for a 1BR on the parlor level.

It's a restored (as opposed to "renovated") brownstone within spitting distance to the A @ Nostrand.

I would think the northern end of the neighborhood should be less, therefore, I vote....

overpriced.

Posted by: rh at August 20, 2009 3:19 PM

mysideofstuy ... and that's exactly my point. The area needs better stores, quality supermarkets, shops etc. before it can sustain rental prices this high.

Posted by: A CrownHeightsLady at August 20, 2009 3:20 PM

If you're heading up near grand central you can take the J to Canal and get the 6 there as well.

Posted by: bunkerlabs at August 20, 2009 3:22 PM

To be fair ACHL between Food Dementia on Myrtle and Broadway and Mr. Kiwi's we are pretty well set for supermarkets over here.

Posted by: bunkerlabs at August 20, 2009 3:25 PM

bunkerlabs....To be fair ACHL between Food Dementia on Myrtle and Broadway and Mr. Kiwi's we are pretty well set for supermarkets over here.

IF YOU SAY SO!

Posted by: A CrownHeightsLady at August 20, 2009 3:27 PM

To be fair ACHL between Food Dementia on Myrtle and Broadway and Mr. Kiwi's we are pretty well set for supermarkets over here.

Posted by: bunkerlabs at August 20, 2009 3:25 PM

IF YOU SAY SO!!!

Posted by: A CrownHeightsLady at August 20, 2009 3:28 PM

shouldn't 40x the monthly rent of an apt be somewhere in line with the median annual income of a neighborhood?

Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 20, 2009 3:34 PM

Wait A CrownHeightsLady ...Our supermarkets especially Associated on Broadway
by Ralph Ave has changed alot we finally carry organic food and fresh fruit and vegtables...Also I might add that we have a Farmers market on Gates & Broadway and if all else fails Fresh Direct finally delivers in the area.
I wish there were better stores but food is most important
I just want a good book store and a coffee shop

Posted by: mysideofstuy at August 20, 2009 3:41 PM

dh, this is NYC, Capital of The World, no one is concerned with such pedestrian rules-of-thumb.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 20, 2009 3:42 PM

Ok...Fair enough.

Posted by: A CrownHeightsLady at August 20, 2009 3:44 PM

Mopar - I think the L is more interesting to more people, but if you had the same new finishes as the places advertised here, they would probably be more on the L.

I also agree with DH that the rental income as a whole probably *should* be 40X of monthly but that doesn't really work in this city. Just like other neighborhoods across the city, there are subsets of cultures here so for the group that is looking for this type of thing (new condo like finishes in this case) they will pay for it, and for less then what they'd pay somewhere else for a similar esthetic. I think this is true in most neighborhoods although it's more extreme in this neighborhood because of where it is in it's progress. Both Park Slope and Williamsburg used to be super sketchy, Park Slop quite a while ago, Williamsburg more recently. Clinton Hill, Fort Greene same deal. I'm sure the monthly rate to median income doesn't hold up in any of those places due to people living there a long time and having pre-boom time prices and new people who paid the much higher new rates.

Posted by: Tdeezy at August 20, 2009 3:53 PM

I'm laughing at myself now DIBS:
"this is NYC, Capital of The World, no one is concerned with such pedestrian rules-of-thumb."
but it's true! you even cross the street in new york and the vibe of the neighborhood changes. I think that's proven by how heated the "neighborhood street boundary" arguments get on this website! lol

Posted by: Tdeezy at August 20, 2009 3:57 PM

Oh. and Thank you Mopar. Sorry that was rude :-/

Posted by: Tdeezy at August 20, 2009 4:07 PM

"shouldn't 40x the monthly rent of an apt be somewhere in line with the median annual income of a neighborhood?"

Yes, but you would have to compare based on just market rate renters' incomes and unregulated rents to make the comparison.

Posted by: etson at August 20, 2009 4:16 PM

This is all very interesting. Good point about the median income and rents not holding up. We're moving from Bushwick L train to Bedstuy JMZ train soon. The groceries near us are quite good, but we'll probably still have to shop outside the area for meat and 100 percent whole grain bread -- as we have everywhere we've lived in NYC, including Carroll Gardens. I swear, you can fall into anyplace for a drink or designer clothing, but running a simple errand is a massive undertaking.

Posted by: mopar at August 20, 2009 4:18 PM

"Yes, but you would have to compare based on just market rate renters' incomes and unregulated rents to make the comparison."

Yeah - I realized that as I posted it. Rent regulation is evil and communist

Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 20, 2009 4:19 PM

As a point of comparison, someone is trying to rent a 2 bedroom duplex in Carroll Gardens for $3K on the bococa listserve right now. Believe me, I am a fan of Bed Stuy -- if we buy that'd probably be where -- but that makes some of those rents seem a bit high.

Posted by: Heather at August 20, 2009 9:09 PM

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