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Number One! Dai yat go.
Posted by: WonTon at August 18, 2009 9:20 AM
Wonton, that's "gor"; not "go"
Posted by: more4less at August 18, 2009 9:22 AM
Yi ho.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 9:22 AM
Sei ho.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 9:23 AM
Last night I did what's become my favorite walk of the summer--from Park Slope, down Union Street, across the Gowanus Canal, up through Carroll Gardens and over the BQE to Columbia Street.
Caught Tony Scheer's set at Jalopy, then walked back the same way around midnight.
Midnight Gowanus crossing is the best, and I always think about how 6 or 7 years ago I never would have dared it at that hour, or any dark hour.
Posted by: WonTon at August 18, 2009 9:24 AM
I love it when the chinese speakers fight among themselves as to which is the more acceptable pronunciation.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 9:24 AM
我喜欢的奶酪。
Posted by: tybur6 at August 18, 2009 9:25 AM
m4l, in Yale Cantonese romanization, 個 is definitely "go".
Posted by: WonTon at August 18, 2009 9:26 AM
Do lei, tybur
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 9:28 AM
In cantonese we say 芝士! Ji si. Sounds like what it is.
Posted by: WonTon at August 18, 2009 9:29 AM
Fuk Ya
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at August 18, 2009 9:29 AM
I'm What's "say baht po"
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 9:31 AM
Heh, What, "Fuk" is actually a very noble word in Cantonese. That's why there are so many Chinese restaurants called "Fuk" this or that.
Posted by: WonTon at August 18, 2009 9:32 AM
Poor Stephon has lost it...
Stephon Marbury Dances to Barbie Girl( Orginal Upload)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK845-ivNto
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at August 18, 2009 9:35 AM
quote:
Midnight Gowanus crossing is the best
were you out looking for hookers or something!?!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 18, 2009 9:36 AM
WonTon, is it possible that someone could be named Fuk Yu?
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at August 18, 2009 9:37 AM
我只说中文的帮助下，谷歌。
Posted by: tybur6 at August 18, 2009 9:38 AM
WHat.....ROTFLMMFAO...I was expecting him to drop trou. It looked like something I watch on xtube.com under "I am a Man, I am looking for Men"
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 9:39 AM
sixyears, you could theoretically come up with a character combination that said "Fuk Yu", but I have never heard of anyone with that name.
"Fukyu", however, is a fairly common Japanese surname, it seems.
Posted by: WonTon at August 18, 2009 9:47 AM
Wonton, I like to think I'm more of a pro than yale on cantonese - it's definitely "gor" and not not "go".
Chicken, might need you to jump in to serve as tie breaker
Posted by: more4less at August 18, 2009 9:51 AM
Cherish this moment - most of the PLUSAs can't have differing opinions on this argument!
Posted by: Arkady at August 18, 2009 9:56 AM
I'm going to the thread above to look for a bottom^^^^^
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 9:58 AM
Пошел на хуй, The What. Really.
And DIBS, shame on you. I was going to make that comment, thought you'd be offended. HA!
Posted by: bupe at August 18, 2009 10:01 AM
tybur, your chinese posts doesn't make much sense. did you copy & paste them over from a chinese article somewhere? if yes, that writer should be shot for incompetence
Posted by: more4less at August 18, 2009 10:05 AM
Not to get pedantic but...
Roman transcription systems for Cantonese (there are four or five of them) got invented so that gwailos like me could learn the language.
Chinese people in Hong Kong also romanize Cantonese, but they use a kind of phonetic "making things up" system. That's where you'll find spellings like "Gor" and "hor" (or sometimes "gaw" and "haw" for "Go and "ho"
But in the official, academic transcriptions--Yale romanization, Lau romanization, jyutping--the two different "o" sounds (short and long) in Cantonese are written in English as "go" (short vowel) and "gou" (long vowel). Or, "do" and "dou".
Posted by: WonTon at August 18, 2009 10:09 AM
The extent of my cantonese is ni hao
Posted by: Troy McClure at August 18, 2009 10:10 AM
أسمي مات و لاكن انا عيشز. كيف الحال يا بنت من باي ردج؟
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at August 18, 2009 10:11 AM
Troy...that's Mandarin. LOL
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 10:11 AM
I think tybur was trying to say that he used Google.
Tybur, Google translate gives you Chinese that looks as bad to a Chinese speaker as all those funny English signs in Beijing do to an American.
Posted by: WonTon at August 18, 2009 10:12 AM
six, I bet you say that to all the girls.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 10:15 AM
Ich bin ein Brooklyner.
Posted by: DitmasSnark at August 18, 2009 10:16 AM
SO SMOKING IN PUBLIC IS LIKE FARTING ON SOMEONE! LOL
from another ridiculous website... ponder this gem.
"Smoking on 7th avenue with people walking behind you is the same thing as going up to someone on 7th avenue and farting on them, in fact, the smoking is worse. My guess is that smoking in public, in Park Slope, will be illegal within the decade, as it should be."
*ROB*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 18, 2009 10:16 AM
One tongue is sufficient for a woman.
- John Milton
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 18, 2009 10:18 AM
Rob, I agree with that. 2nd hand smoke is not only bad but is an invasion of someone's personal breathing space
Posted by: more4less at August 18, 2009 10:18 AM
bupe just wrote something in Russian. I am not the only russki OT person here, yey!
Posted by: Kensingtonian at August 18, 2009 10:20 AM
It is illegal to smoke outside in Maranouchi (downtown) Tokyo!!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 10:23 AM
so are car exhausts and baby burps and vegan B.O.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 18, 2009 10:25 AM
Vegan B.O. is very wrong. They tend to not use deodorant at all. About that, you are right rob.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 10:27 AM
Kensi, Как дела? Откуда ты? -Аркадий
Posted by: bupe at August 18, 2009 10:30 AM
Hmmmmmm...bupe's name seems to be that of a regular PLUSA!
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at August 18, 2009 10:33 AM
Nihongo ga dekimasu ka? Anyone?
Posted by: Park Sloper at August 18, 2009 10:39 AM
bupe, iz Minksa. My Russian is rusty though since I came here as a little kid.
Sixyears, good catch. I actually thought "Arkady" was a russian guy when I first started posting.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at August 18, 2009 10:42 AM
日本語が好きですか。(?)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 10:42 AM
O.K. I'll go along w/ smoking prohibition if it's coupled w/ laws against strollers clogging the narrowest passage on the sidewalk which is a more immediate health threat since the irritation it engenders can cause an immediate coronary.
Posted by: Arkady at August 18, 2009 10:43 AM
みんなのように日本語の
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 10:45 AM
Stop showing off your language skills people and make folks like me feel stupid :o).
Posted by: Kensingtonian at August 18, 2009 10:47 AM
I used serious vernacular English on the Crown Heights thread from yesterday. Is it my imagination or is jscheff a dolt? He article really really pissed me off.
Posted by: bxgrl at August 18, 2009 10:52 AM
"Rob, I agree with that. 2nd hand smoke is not only bad but is an invasion of someone's personal breathing space"-m4l
God, I hate holier-than-thou anti-smokers. On a public street! How about if I say that ugly person's appearance is an invasion of my personal aesthetic?
Rob, for once I agree with you.
Posted by: cmu at August 18, 2009 10:56 AM
Big difference between a proven health risk and you having to look at a butterface, cmu. I don't want to have to walk behind someone and smell like an ashtray because of it.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 11:00 AM
Yeah - I was confused by Arkady as well (hey, Arkady - what's up with your name? Homage to Tolstoy? Dostoyevski? _insert_great_Russian_writers_here?)
I am from Uzbekistan, also came here 20+ years ago, and have lived all over (Midwest, Cali, now NY for 7+ years).
And boy, would I be in trouble with Byelorussian - whenever I hear that, I think I am going crazy - it sounds like Russian, but gibberish.
Posted by: bupe at August 18, 2009 11:00 AM
Any nerds in the house want to go to the NYCResistor party on Saturday night? My usual partner in crime for this sort of thing will be out of town.
http://www.nycresistor.com/
http://anyvite.com/imuwgd5wpe
Posted by: CG_ups at August 18, 2009 11:02 AM
Agree with M4L- cigarette smoke stinks and when you smoke it goes everywhere- including into other people's lungs.
Posted by: bxgrl at August 18, 2009 11:03 AM
I really want to visit Uzbekistan someday.
So far, the closest I have gotten is the Uzbek muslim restaurant Brighton Beach.
Posted by: WonTon at August 18, 2009 11:08 AM
Is that where Borat is from???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 11:13 AM
bupe, come out to our get together on Thursday in Williamsburg. Should be fun.
I don't speak any belorussian or ukranian but understand a fair bit.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at August 18, 2009 11:14 AM
Dave, Borat is from Kazakhstan. Outside of Almaty to be exact. I have a friend from there and always make fun of her for that. We call her the "#4 prostitute in the country". I even wanted to get her a shirt with that phrase.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at August 18, 2009 11:15 AM
Ahem. Has anyone done the requisite check of the kitchen staff for me at this place for Thursday??
Do I need to teach you the correct questions in Spanish????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 11:16 AM
CG Ups, are there going to be any cute girls there? Any of them make bad decisions?
Posted by: Kensingtonian at August 18, 2009 11:16 AM
i think that was kazakhstan. and turkmenistan is the one where smoking was banned because the president was trying to quit.
Posted by: CG_ups at August 18, 2009 11:16 AM
it's a nerd party, so with that baseline in mind, cuteness is at acceptable levels. equivalent to wburg bar on a sat nite? no. equivalent to a soho lounge? nope. better than the midtown wendy's on a weekday. yes!
Posted by: CG_ups at August 18, 2009 11:18 AM
CMU, chill my man. go have a smoke. I was making reference to 2nd hand smoke PERIOD. nothing about it in public or in closed qtrs. This is a free country and I get to speak my piece. BTW, I've purposely burped into smokers' faces when they're smoking up a storm at a bar. When they complained about my burp, I said it was no worst that the fucking smoke they were blowing into my face
Posted by: more4less at August 18, 2009 11:19 AM
bxgrl, if you think smoke from someone walking BEHIND you can damage your lungs, they're in pretty bad shape. Consider all that car exhaust, restaurant grill smoke and rotting garbage around you. Anyone who worries about this not live in an urban area.
Posted by: cmu at August 18, 2009 11:20 AM
haha cg_ups, Turkmenistan's (now deceased) president was truly bizarre. He even renamed days of the week and months after himself and his accomplishments.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saparmurat_Niyazov#Unusual_decrees_and_laws
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at August 18, 2009 11:22 AM
OK, first - I have no idea what a PLUSA is - please translate.
WonTon - Kashgar is the restaurant you are probably thinking of - it has really gone downhill, and I have stopped going. Uighur food (why is everybody pronouncing it "wigger" all of a sudden?) can be had in Rego Park, other parts of Queens - check out Chowhound.
And DIBS - keep looking for the (a?) bottom - Borat is from one country over ;)
Kensi - I have an 8 mo old daugter - it's hard to make any plans outside the house, but thank you so much for the invite! My partner (he is from Kharkov) would kill me if he saw me typing this (he lurks on the forum from time to time). Just in case, where in W'burg and when? (we get a date night once in a while b/c in-laws take the little one for the eve).
Posted by: bupe at August 18, 2009 11:22 AM
How can you be here and not know what a PLUSA is???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 11:25 AM
So a whiff of cigarette smoke = bad
but 2 million for a house in fort greene/clinton hill a couple of blocks from the bqe with trucks spewing soot and CO2 24 hours a day = good.
wowzers!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 18, 2009 11:28 AM
Er der nogen her, der taler dansk?
Talar du svenska?
Snakker du norsk?
Et je suis sure qu’il y a plusieurs qui parlent français, n’est-ce pas?
¿Hay alguien que habla español?
Posted by: Park Sloper at August 18, 2009 11:29 AM
m4l-but you were agreeing with Rob's post which was about smoking on 7th ave.
And a smoker's rudeness does not excuse your own. I stand by my 'holier-than-thou'.
where are these smoking bars anyway? Not in NYC I suppose?
Posted by: cmu at August 18, 2009 11:29 AM
Speaking of being a "PL", I happened upon the OT before bed last night, and noticed that the last post of the day is an advertisement for Air Jordans! Did anyone else notice that? What's that all about?
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 11:31 AM
CGar, they spammed the forum with those too.
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at August 18, 2009 11:32 AM
cmu- "bxgrl, if you think smoke from someone walking BEHIND you can damage your lungs, they're in pretty bad shape. "
I never said that and I would appreciate you NOT putting words in my mouth. I would also appreciate you reading up on second hand smoke- we no smokers put up with that crap for years- at home, in restaurants, on subway cars and at work. Smokers are incredibly selfish and inconsiderate. Smoking is a choice you make and inflict on the rest of us. You want to smoke at home? Have at it. But I shouldn't have to deal with it.
Posted by: bxgrl at August 18, 2009 11:32 AM
bupe, are you Uighur(ian)? A very good friend of mine is. I know there is a very small community here in the states (I realize it's a small community overall as well).
The get together is at 6:30 till late at Pete's Candy Store.
709 Lorimer St
Brooklyn, NY 11211
www.petescandystore.com
Posted by: Kensingtonian at August 18, 2009 11:32 AM
DH, of course. if that's bad, those nice real estate agents would've warned us about it.
Posted by: more4less at August 18, 2009 11:33 AM
why is everybody pronouncing it "wigger" all of a sudden?
LOL wiggers are an entirely different group of human beings.
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at August 18, 2009 11:34 AM
CGar, I noticed that. Freakin spam. Thank god they post at night. I am a PL as well for checking that BTW.
PLUSA - Pathetic Loser Usual Suspect Asshat. The origins of which will only be explained in person at the get togethers from now on.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at August 18, 2009 11:35 AM
Let's not go there. That was the beginning of the discussion where other "words" were spelled out and then the What went on a five day rampage.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 11:36 AM
i know, right? out of nowhere everyone just decides to change the pronounciation on places. like remember back when americans said peking instead of beijing? or back when it was cuh-TAHR instead of CUTT-er? (Qatar)
Posted by: CG_ups at August 18, 2009 11:36 AM
Thanks, sixyears. I hadn't noticed it anywhere else. Weird.
Hey, bxgrl, how's my favorite online bigamist wife?
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 11:37 AM
Você fala português?
Posted by: Park Sloper at August 18, 2009 11:39 AM
"I am a PL as well for checking that BTW."
ROFL, Kens, I'm glad I'm in such fine company!
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 11:40 AM
CMU, holier than thou - time for look in da mirror Man. Yeah, it's you again and again telling people what they can or can not say, how to live their live,.... BTW, did you get lost - this is the OT thread where people get to say stuff / any stuff. BTW, I was agreeing to Rob's CAP'd line in his posts of 2nd hand smoke is like fart in face. Lastly, the burping thing was when I was the younger self who didn't hesitate to fight and when NYC didnt ban smoking
Posted by: more4less at August 18, 2009 11:40 AM
คุณพูดภาษาไทยเบ็นไหม?
Posted by: Park Sloper at August 18, 2009 11:40 AM
But I'm always true to you, darlin' in my fashion.
I'm always true to you darlin' in my way. :-)
No more bigamy. I've divorced benson for his attacks on Montrose.
ok considering all the sad family stuff going on. (And a thanks to Legion for his good wishes last week. Much appreciated).
Posted by: bxgrl at August 18, 2009 11:41 AM
When are you going to get to the Thai, Park Sloper?
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 11:41 AM
How are you people able to post using the typefonts for languages?
Posted by: bxgrl at August 18, 2009 11:42 AM
Already did, Dave! คุณพูดภาษาไทยเบ็นไหม?
Posted by: Park Sloper at August 18, 2009 11:43 AM
Great news about the divorce, bxgrl!
How are things with the family?
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 11:44 AM
Talar þú íslensku?
Posted by: Park Sloper at August 18, 2009 11:44 AM
Sawatdee.
Posted by: Park Sloper at August 18, 2009 11:49 AM
My favorite Thai line is:
"What hotel you stay?"
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 11:51 AM
Hangukmal hasil jul aseyo?
Posted by: Park Sloper at August 18, 2009 11:52 AM
My favorite Japanese line is:
"Can you eat sushi?"
Typical question asked of foreigners. A gay friend even experienced this while being fondled underwater by a Japanese guy in a hot springs!
Posted by: Park Sloper at August 18, 2009 11:53 AM
bxgrl: I cut and pasted the Thai. I don't have the font packages for Japanese or Korean on my work computer, unfortunately, and I can't read the Chinese people have been posting for the same reason (not that I understand Chinese anyway, except for those characters that are also used in Japanese).
Posted by: Park Sloper at August 18, 2009 11:55 AM
I would be under the water myself with his daikon in hand, unable to hear the question.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 11:57 AM
ciao Raggazi!
anywhoooo - yeah am not digging the smokers creed of smoking all willy nilly in the street
and why do smokers have to drink coffee and smoke? ewww talk about double the badbreath!!!
Posted by: gemini10 at August 18, 2009 11:58 AM
No, not an wigger - your average Russian Jew. And now, apparently, a PLUSA. Nice, I can add that behind my name along with a string of other useless letters I've accumulater over the years :)
And Park Slope - your gay friend may have been asked a very valid question (yes, DIBS, I went there - not literally, of course, just now)
Posted by: bupe at August 18, 2009 12:02 PM
parkslpoer- and i am so jealous! I can barely manage english (my native language)!
Posted by: bxgrl at August 18, 2009 12:03 PM
No, not an wigger - your average Russian Jew. And now, apparently, a PLUSA.
Posted by: bupe at August 18, 2009 12:02 PM
Are you referring to me? I pronouce Uighur correctly. So are you one?
Posted by: Kensingtonian at August 18, 2009 12:08 PM
No, Kensi - I am your average Russian Jew. I made fun of wigger (stupid, should have stuck with Uighur) pronounciation. I actually don't know any in the US (except the ones in the news).
Also now see myself firmly in PLUSA category. Hey, can I be PLUSA of the day?
Posted by: bupe at August 18, 2009 12:12 PM
What's a cool bar in Greenwich Village? Not too chi chi and not too divey.
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 18, 2009 12:18 PM
bupe, Randi nominates PLUSAs of the day. You have to be extra pathetic and extra corny and take up most of your work day in the OT to earn the PL of the day title. If you're really lucky (like Rob is) you can be named PL of the week once in a while.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at August 18, 2009 12:24 PM
"What's a cool bar in Greenwich Village? Not too chi chi and not too divey."
what you wanna drink biff?
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 18, 2009 12:27 PM
It's the Tower of BabelOT!!!
m4l, I would say "gor" but that's just me and the other illegitimate chinese I know...
Posted by: the chicken at August 18, 2009 12:27 PM
Biff:
define Greenwich Village? becuase nowadays I only know "nolita,noho,soho,les,west village and east village
Greenwich Village-not sure I know where that is exactly ;)
Posted by: gemini10 at August 18, 2009 12:28 PM
the other room in the far west village is nice though i think it landed on a bunch of citysearch / yelp type websites and was starting to get oddly crowded but it's a great bar if you get there before the crowds. ditto for turks and frogs. downside to the other room is that it's cash only. if anyone suggests little branch then slap them.
Posted by: CG_ups at August 18, 2009 12:28 PM
what's wrong with little branch>
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 18, 2009 12:30 PM
little branch, employees only, spotted pig, et al were fine when they first opened then became crazy crowded and full of a-holes. anyplace that has a line in the west village is auto on my sh*tlist. that includes magnolia. wtf is up with that place. their cupcakes SUCK and there is a line 24/7 rain or shine.
V Bar on Sullivan is decent biff. it's tiny though, not good for a big crowd.
Posted by: CG_ups at August 18, 2009 12:33 PM
Biff, I recommend the Cooper Square Hotel, 25 Cooper Square, East Village. There are actually 2 or 3 bars, indoor and outdoor. We sat outdoors, on the 2nd floor, and it was really nice, but, if you're going today, it may be too hot.
http://nymag.com/listings/bar/cooper-square-hotel-bar/
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 12:33 PM
Hello everyone :) Any good news in the world?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 12:35 PM
Wonton, the Chicken has spoken and he concurs with M4L. BTW, the Chicken is the supreme court so no more appeals unless you want to do so face to face this Thurs over drinks.
Posted by: more4less at August 18, 2009 12:36 PM
"what you wanna drink biff?"
Something with alcohol, preferably.
G10, I guess I mean West Village.
CG_Ups, thanks for the info. I've been to Employees Only many times as a good friend of mine lived very close to it, but I agree wholeheartedly that it often scores high on the douche-o-meter, especially as far as the bouncers are concerned. Agreed that Magnolia is nothing special and it seems to me most people line up because they feel it's the thing to do, not because they have the best product (kinda like Grimaldi's).
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 18, 2009 12:37 PM
OK, I happen to despite smoking, don't allow it in my home, and get nauseous at the smell of secondhand smoke, but seriously ... can't smokers even smoke outside anymore? This is getting ridiculous. I'm even starting to feel sorry for the poor suckers.
Posted by: Park Sloper at August 18, 2009 12:37 PM
snappy, good news is it's not raining cause forecast says we'll get a ton of it for the next 4-5 days
Posted by: more4less at August 18, 2009 12:38 PM
Snappy, where ya been? How's Hari?
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 12:38 PM
hey snappy, did you try the pool? how was it?
Posted by: CG_ups at August 18, 2009 12:39 PM
I meant "despise," of course.
Posted by: Park Sloper at August 18, 2009 12:39 PM
"little branch, employees only, spotted pig, et al were fine when they first opened then became crazy crowded and full of a-holes."
Can't argue with you there. Little Branch started giving out passes to their regulars who started to stay away - which allows them to bypass any lines.
If i want a cocktail nowadays (which is rare) i'll just go to milk and honey.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 18, 2009 12:39 PM
Thanks CGar, I've been there and it's a good place. I'm just looking on the West Side for now. I know West Broadway has a few decent places too, just north of Canal.
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 18, 2009 12:40 PM
M4L, I wish it would go ahead and rain. This heat is killing me (and my electric bill...energy star a.c. my @ss!)
Howdy Cargar. Hari is having some good days and some bad days. Keep your fingers crossed.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 12:41 PM
CGups...no pool yet...yesterday I was in so much pain I spent most of the day looped out on vicodin just to keep from ripping my whole leg off. I'm gonna go see the doctor again tomorrow and hopefully start getting better.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 12:42 PM
Just saw V Bar pictures. Looking for something a bit darker and "loungier".
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 18, 2009 12:43 PM
don't get me started on how GROSS magnolia cupcakes are
Posted by: gemini10 at August 18, 2009 12:43 PM
Biff, when I lived in the West Village, I used to frequent White Horse Tavern (Hudson, near Bank I think), Automatic Slims (Bank and Washington) and Tortilla Flats (West 12th and Greenwich or Washington). Don't know much about a lot of the new places.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 12:45 PM
v bar isn't loungey but it is totes dark. must have been a wicked flashbulb. i like the bar at bond street. it's downstairs from the restaurant.
Posted by: CG_ups at August 18, 2009 12:46 PM
"Darker" and "Loungier", you say. Well, there's the bar at Perry Street (Jean-Georges' restaurant - food is good), but then we have the whole "chi chi" problem.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 12:48 PM
ps. the bar doesn't have a name. it's underneath the restaurant named bond street.
Posted by: CG_ups at August 18, 2009 12:48 PM
if you're going tonight - employees only or little branch could work - if it's thurs - saturday, steer clear
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 18, 2009 12:56 PM
I want rain! It will wash away all the 2nd hand smoke!
Posted by: bupe at August 18, 2009 12:57 PM
snappy, I got 1 of those old big fans (not these new tower fans) running and I rarely see the need to run the A/C - except when the little bugger is awake and gives me the curious look that he wants to stick his little fingers thru the fan blade wire guard.
Posted by: more4less at August 18, 2009 12:58 PM
hey WonTon I love Jalopy. Do you go often? I just took a fingerstyle workshop there and it was awesome. I wish I'd bought in Red Hook now... love the Stuy too of course but everything i do takes me to Red hook.
Posted by: herkimermaid at August 18, 2009 1:00 PM
M4L, I don't have a choice but to run the a.c. I can pay a bigger electric bill and breathe, or use a fan only and wind up in the e.r. with an asthma attack. Ambulance and e.r. bill is much higher than con ed rates!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 1:02 PM
snappy, your asthma is that bad? and you have have cats? you're asking for trouble with them cat hairs
Posted by: more4less at August 18, 2009 1:08 PM
"something a bit darker and "loungier"
Sounds like the cheap apt, I'm looking for.
Posted by: Bitter Renter Girl at August 18, 2009 1:08 PM
M4L, that's what daily vacuuming is for :) But really, cats don't bother me. It's extreme heat and extreme cold that set off the asthma.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 1:12 PM
We were worried about you yesterday, Snappy.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 1:16 PM
Thanks Cargar...hopefully soon I'll be pain free and able to boogie again :) Until then, vicodin is my new best friend!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 1:20 PM
GW bars: there's also fiddlesticks on Greenwich I believe. pretty decent irish place. I'm sure there are places around with more atmosphere, though they do a good job. the after work crowd there isn't too icky.
Posted by: herkimermaid at August 18, 2009 1:20 PM
Corner Bistro is good - Hudson @ Abingdon Sq.
Posted by: Arkady at August 18, 2009 1:22 PM
second corner bistro. there's also cubby hole down the street which can be fun but I doubt that's what you're looking for :)
Posted by: herkimermaid at August 18, 2009 1:25 PM
Corner Bistro - my favorite burgers in the City, and one of my all time favorite dives. Nothing like getting a burger there at 4am.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 1:25 PM
Fiddlesticks looks PACKED in the pics I saw. I think I was there during March Madness and barely made it out alive.
Corner Bistro might work.
I guess I can always revert to Meatpacking District and The Spice Market or Gansevoort Hotel...just been there so much it feels very tired.
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 18, 2009 1:26 PM
mmm Fiddlesticks was never packed the times I was there but then again I was never there really late... jump on the train and go to the Brooklyn Inn! Never was there a better place.
Posted by: herkimermaid at August 18, 2009 1:28 PM
Herk, I have a (straight) friend who comes here often from Toronto and a (gay) friend of his took us to the Cubby Hole once. Ever since then, my straight friend loves going back. We also ended up doing karaoke at Lucky Cheng's one time not too long ago. And no, neither one of us got curious after the huge punch bowls filled with booze.
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 18, 2009 1:28 PM
For all you "birthers" out there, there was a case of an Irish immigrant who was elected Governor of Nebraska. The former Governor challenged his citizenship, the militia was called out, and it went all the way to the Supreme Court, which ruled in favor of the immigrant Governor:
http://hnn.us/articles/114783.html
"The Supreme Court held: “That where no record of ntaturalization can be produced, evidence that a person having the requisite qualifications to become a citizen did in fact and for a long time vote and hold office and exercise rights belonging to citizens is sufficient to warrant a jury in inferring that he has been duly naturalized as a citizen.”
Case closed - next!
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at August 18, 2009 1:28 PM
snappy- I am so sorry to hear you're in pain again. Why is your foot not healing? Or healing so slowly? And how's Hari?
Posted by: bxgrl at August 18, 2009 1:30 PM
re W.Village bars.
I totally second CG_ups suggestion of the Other Room, especially if you are there earlier when it is rarely crowded.
Good music, very wide beer selection, good mix of people.
Posted by: etson at August 18, 2009 1:30 PM
I haven't been but someone told me Bayard's Ale House - used to be the Sazerac - is good. Hudson @ Charles.
Posted by: Arkady at August 18, 2009 1:31 PM
Herk, Exhibit A re: Fiddlesticks
http://eats.com/images/restaurants/listings/40660_image3_fiddlesticks2.jpg
Maybe this is a different Fiddlesticks?
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 18, 2009 1:31 PM
Snaps - Any better today? How about Hari?
Do you need any errands run?
Posted by: Arkady at August 18, 2009 1:32 PM
Likewise Snappy, I'm about to jump on my bike to whiz around in any case, do you need anything?
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 18, 2009 1:34 PM
Bxgirl...I'm blaming dancing at Ellis and the Park Slope post office for my foot woes :) I'm going to the doctor in the morning to see what's going on.
Hari is lethargic again today. He's napping as we speak (type). Maybe later he'll be interested in playing.
Arkady...thanks for the offer. I actually don't need anything today. I'm reclining with my foot propped up. I'm gonna try your ice suggestion tonight (hopefully a bag of frozen spinach will work! I've got no ice!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 1:37 PM
Bayard's Ale House looks good, albeit bright. I like it dark though...my attractiveness is inversely proportional to the brightness of the lights (and the amount of alcohol others consume).
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 18, 2009 1:38 PM
Thanks Cobble, but I'm good for the day :) I've got plenty of liquid and food. The cats and I will be dining on chicken and rice today...yum!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 1:38 PM
that is definitely the same place Biff. It was never overcrowded when I was there but then it was always just after work for drinks. Gone by 9. Cubby hole can be a blast! It's such an interesting crowd/mix. I've taken gay friends there before and gotten bonus points :)
Posted by: herkimermaid at August 18, 2009 1:41 PM
Biff - When it was the Saz the place was dark - I imagine there was a little photo-magic going on for that shot. There's a back room that's even darker.
Posted by: Arkady at August 18, 2009 1:41 PM
Everyone should read this Chris Kelly column on the Constitution and birthers- it's spot on.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-kelly/the-constitution-says-oba_b_249730.html
Posted by: bxgrl at August 18, 2009 1:42 PM
Snappy - Definitely post office, not dancing.
Posted by: Arkady at August 18, 2009 1:42 PM
Glad to hear it, please don't hesitate to ask, really. I'm just a few minutes away by bike, and there are a million stores between here and there for any/everything you might need!
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 18, 2009 1:42 PM
i don't get the whole birthers thing. wasn't john mccain born in panama?
Posted by: CG_ups at August 18, 2009 1:45 PM
Snappy, I hope it wasn't the PBR necklace I dropped on your foot.
I'm leaning towards Cubby Hole now. I've had good times there with my own assorted friends.
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 18, 2009 1:46 PM
Arkady...had greed not been my inspiration, I would have skipped the post office all together! I had a $50 rebate that I forgot about until yesterday that had to be postmarked by yesterday. Argh! I don't trust the mail box (I don't have a rational reason why!) so I took it down there. Of course long lines (like 17 people deep) and only two people working and about 4-5 others on break. Hmph! Having to stand there for that long gave the pain time to come back despite being in a vidodin semi-haze.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 1:48 PM
Biffy, you dropped the necklace on me? I so don't recall! Well, then, I'll blame you too!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 1:49 PM
if you go to the cubby hole, stop by The Place on west fourth (a block or two away). tiny bar with only like 6 seats but very charming. good place.
Posted by: CG_ups at August 18, 2009 1:49 PM
That Chris Kelly is pretty funny. I just can't think about the damn birthers for one more minute. It's just not worth my energy, and I'm imagining this is what Obama is thinking too. It's BS.
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 18, 2009 1:49 PM
YEAH Cubby Hole baby!! It's fun, real and totally interesting. What more could ask for?
Posted by: herkimermaid at August 18, 2009 1:50 PM
m4l, I'd rather be seen as sanctimonious than boasting about starting bar fights. To each his own. what's with the comment about getting lost? Never said you couldn't have your say.
bxgrl: this all started with the walking and smoking comment, so if you want to say you were 'just' commenting on second-hand smoke, it's disingenuous. Nopoint arguing about the perils of shs. I, like many of my generation, grew up with smoking parents and friends, and lived. And I don't mind smokers.
Posted by: cmu at August 18, 2009 1:51 PM
Chris Kelly thing is wonderful!
Posted by: Arkady at August 18, 2009 1:52 PM
What are birthers?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 1:52 PM
Whoa! What did I miss? Who's fighting about smoking and why?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 1:54 PM
The birthers are the morons, I mean people, that think Obama isn't a natural born citizen, and so he isn't eligible to be president.
The whole thing makes me want to bang my head against a wall.
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 18, 2009 1:54 PM
Oh heavens. People are still harping on about that silliness? Why do people even give them column space in newspapers or airtime on tv? Ugh.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 1:57 PM
Biff: try Wilfie and Nell...
http://nymag.com/listings/restaurant/wilfie-nell/
Posted by: jessibaby at August 18, 2009 1:58 PM
My sentiments exactly, it's not worth the screen/air time/ink or mental energy. Just another way of saying they don't want a Black man to be our President. EF 'em. Too bad. They voted, they lost. Sour grapes.
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 18, 2009 2:00 PM
hey WonTon I love Jalopy. Do you go often? I just took a fingerstyle workshop there and it was awesome. I wish I'd bought in Red Hook now... love the Stuy too of course but everything i do takes me to Red hook.
Posted by: herkimermaid at August 18, 2009 1:00 PM
I really dig Jalopy. Jeff the owner fixed my old guitar for only, like, $15. I go usually on Monday nights to see Tony Scherr play, but sometimes for other shows. It's such a treat to be able to walk somewhere and hear live music.
Posted by: WonTon at August 18, 2009 2:03 PM
Going out in the heat...what's that saying about Mad dogs and Englishmen? Ah well, it has to be done!
Snappy, if you change your mind and need stuff, I can zip over in the morning anytime before Noon. Just say the word. [Or send an email ; ) ]
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 18, 2009 2:05 PM
snappy- could be the humidity and heat- my cats have all died. At least they're acting that way but please get him checked out and if you need anything, let me know. You have the email.
Posted by: bxgrl at August 18, 2009 2:06 PM
I can't get to Jalopy enough. Jeff and Lynette are geniuses. We should have a b'stoner hoedown there one night! There's a bar next door with a pool table too. Haven't been to hear Tony Scherr play yet but one of my guitar teachers plays with 2 different bluegrass bands so I go whenever he's there.
Posted by: herkimermaid at August 18, 2009 2:07 PM
Bxgirl, he goes back to the vet again next week. Hopefully they'll have good news from his blood tests.
Cobble, thanks again :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 2:10 PM
Wonton, the Chicken has spoken and he concurs with M4L. BTW, the Chicken is the supreme court so no more appeals unless you want to do so face to face this Thurs over drinks.
Posted by: more4less at August 18, 2009 12:36 PM
Hey, when it comes to Cantonese romanization, I am the Supreme Court, and you guys are the anarchists!
I spent one and a half years sitting in a hot room at Chinese University being forced to memorize by rote the "official" roman orthograpies of Cantonese. My Cantonese teachers knew exactly how best to punish slackers--they had advanced degrees in student humiliation techniques.
Many of my fellow students fled the classroom in tears during the semester. I am not kidding.
I used to argue with them that romanization is utterly useless unless you're a Westerner learning Cantonese. They just smiled, and took one point off every time I misspelled "go" as "gor".....
Posted by: WonTon at August 18, 2009 2:10 PM
Snappy, I was just yanking your chain...I didn't drop the necklace on you. At some point, likely during my "unique" dance moves, it broke into pieces. However, I don't think anyone was hurt in the process.
CG_Ups, et.al., thanks so much for all the recommendations. I think I have some great ones to choose from.
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 18, 2009 2:12 PM
cmu- my mother smoked- as did many of my relatives. Smoke stinks and when you smoke around other people you are forcing a disgusting habit on everyone around you. I repeat- don't put word in my mouth. You love to brag about being green- well tell me how you can talk so much about being green and the environment yet blow off someone complaining about breathing in second hand cigarette smoke? I guess you don't get the irony in that? So don't take M4L to task for his stance.
Posted by: bxgrl at August 18, 2009 2:17 PM
snaps- if I can help you out, let me know. Don't let him break my heart, the little beast!
Posted by: bxgrl at August 18, 2009 2:19 PM
CG ups, McCain was born in Panama, but in the Canal Zone, which at the time was under American sovereignty. There were a few challenges to his status as a natural-born citizen, but they didn't get as much press as the current birther conspiracists.
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at August 18, 2009 2:22 PM
Didn't they make the same claim about Barry Goldwater back in the day? Arizona was a territory, not a state, when he was born, so he wasn't really a US citizen and therefore couldn't be elected President.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 2:29 PM
Snaps - the birther story keeps going because 28% of the population believes it! (I don't know what percent of total US is from Ark., Ala, W.Va., etc.)
Auberon Waugh - a fair-minded vehement anti-smoker - cited several studies that illustrated that 2nd hand smoke is not deleterious. I don't doubt that it has an impact on people who are genetically vulnerable but statistics can be warped & it is the case that smoking affects different people in different ways. As has been pointed out, a couple of whiffs from someone on the street is not going to do as much durable harm as the general pollution of city atmospheres.
Posted by: Arkady at August 18, 2009 2:32 PM
I love 2nd hand smoke - almost as much as 1st hand smoke.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 18, 2009 2:33 PM
What did I miss???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 2:36 PM
"What did I miss???"
Apparently what you DIDN'T miss was your weekly nooner.
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 18, 2009 2:38 PM
I was having lunch with Barry Ritholz, Biff, not a NOONER.
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/03/bailout-nation-cover/
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 2:43 PM
Robert Novak died.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 2:44 PM
when I quit smoking (cigarettes) about 5 years ago I used to stalk people on the street who were smoking and follow them for blocks inhaling their second hand smoke. I don't do that anymore but I still feel the occasional twinge of envy. Glad I quit though, it's EXPENSIVE.
Posted by: herkimermaid at August 18, 2009 2:45 PM
And on another note of reincarnation, Brett Favre just signed with the Vikings!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 2:45 PM
Small world, Dave, I suffered through law school with Barry Ritholz.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 2:48 PM
NOT nooner material.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 2:48 PM
fuck brett favre
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 18, 2009 2:49 PM
Not surprised about Bob Novak - he had a brain tumor, correct?
I am surprised about Brett Favre, though I guess I shouldn't really be surprised that he unretired again.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 2:50 PM
Barry is no rocket scientist, CGar. But he is capable of writing what people want to read.
Funny story about this book...it was originally supposed to be published by McGraw Hill (owned by S&P) but as all the problems unravelled it became clear that the ratings agencies were the real enablers. McGraw wouldn't publish what they gave him full editorial rights over a year and a half ago so he took it to Wiley.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 2:51 PM
CGar...no one I have lunch with is nooner material, otherwise I wouldn't be having lunch with them but off having a nooner!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 2:52 PM
I seriously don't know any regular smokers who go into a person's home or other indoor public place who expect to be able to smoke. I don't even smoke in my own apt bc I don't like how the smell lingers.
Some bars let their patrons smoke after a certain hour at night, in order to keep drunk people off the sidewalk late - avoiding noise complaints and potential community board issues when their liquor license if up for renewal. sadly - owners of such bars would probably lose your business rather than their liquor license, as there are enough smokers who will come to a bar just because they can smoke indoors.
if it's out in public, on the sidewalk - tough luck, that's the only place we are legally allowed nowadays!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 18, 2009 2:52 PM
I try to be a considerate smoker, but it doesn't always work out. I don't smoke around those who are eating and try to stay downwind in general. My dad used to say that smoke follows ugly people so if you get second hand smoke blame your mama! Ha!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 2:52 PM
That's my take, too, dave. I happen to see him on CNN last night where he had morphed into a "leading economist".
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 2:53 PM
You know, I turned on HGTV at some point late last night and the show For Rent was in progress (it's like House Hunters but for people looking for a rental). I cracked up laughing because the couple looking for an apartment had previously been living in a tent! I immediately thought of the 'Stoner thread about the hipsters living in tents. Ha! And this show takes place in Canada. I don't know if they would have qualified as hipsters, but I'm not up on the population of Canadian Hipsters. Biffy? Care to enlighten? :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 2:55 PM
I like that show on television where the hot guy named Ahmed stalks people at Home depot and then goes home with them to redo their yards...Yard Crashers.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 3:00 PM
a very important public service announcement:
Can your flip-flops kill you?
Summer footwear harbor more than 18,000 bacteria, including deadly germ
By Laura T. Coffey TODAY staff updated 6:20 a.m. PT, Tues., Aug 18, 2009
Ah, the casual, comfortable flip-flop: A symbol of summertime, an emblem of relaxation - and a harbinger of death?
OK, well, that may be overstating it a little bit - but not by too terribly much, health experts say.
TODAY, with the help of the University of Miami emergency mobile flip-flop lab, tested some footwear and found that there were more than 18,000 bacteria on just one pair of flip-flops. Even more shocking than the number of germs were the types represented - bacteria from fecal matter, skin and respiratory germs. One pair of 6-year-old flip-flops had bacteria that caused yeast infection and diaper rash.
The New York Daily News recently tested two pairs of flip-flops as well, ones that traipsed through bars in New York's West Village, plodded through Brooklyn's Prospect Park, rode the F, A, C, G, 2 and 3 subway trains, attended a Brooklyn Cyclones game in Coney Island and rode the Cyclone roller coaster. One pair wandered into the Coney Island subway station's public restroom.
They found that the shoes that flopped their way into that public restroom harbored about 13,900 more bacteria than the other pair.
Presence of a deadly germ
Most disturbing of all, the flip-flops provided shelter to the potentially lethal germ Staphylococcus aureus. That's serious, said Dr. Philip M. Tierno Jr., director of clinical microbiology and immunology at New York University's Langone Medical Center. He said the presence of this germ can be especially problematic if you have an open cut or blister on your foot, or if you handle your flip-flops a lot with your hands.
"That particular organism can give you a serious infection like a boil, or more serious, it could possess toxins," Tierno told TODAY. "They can make you very sick or kill you."
Tierno - also known as "Dr. Germ" - pointed out that if such shoes were worn for three months over the course of an entire summer, 93 percent of them would have fecal bacteria on them and 20 percent of them would have E. coli.
"These bacteria detected indicate obviously that feces, urine, spit, vomit, animal droppings were all present," Tierno told TODAY. "That is what's on the streets of a big city and in public bathrooms ... Think about what's on the ground we walk on in New York City. There's rat-doo and cockroaches, and they're harbingers of all sorts of germs."
Dr. Lisa Plano, a microbiologist at the University of Miami, agreed with Tierno's assessment of the dangers of germs on flip-flops, but said this knowledge shouldn't inspire utter panic in flip-flop owners.
"As long as your skin is intact, as long as you use common sense and don't knowingly expose yourself ... you shouldn't be alarmed," she said. "Even though those nasty things are out there, those nasty things have always been out there - we just haven't always been looking for them."
Protect yourself
So armed with information like this, what's a fan of casual footwear to do? Tierno said to avoid touching your flip-flops and your unwashed feet as much as possible.
"That's what you do when you're wearing these types of shoes - you're adjusting it often for comfort, since they flop around," Tierno said. "They are thin and you handle it more than a regular shoe to slip it over your toe."
To help combat such exposure, you can wash your hands often and remove your shoes before you walk around your home.
You also could consider reserving those flip-flops as part of your beach or poolside attire only, Tierno said.
"I'm not saying don't ever wear them," he said. "They are nice for the beach and the pool and perhaps even in your home. ... My thought is they should be worn temporarily. There is a place for them."
Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 18, 2009 3:01 PM
"University of Miami emergency mobile flip-flop lab"
???
Posted by: East New York at August 18, 2009 3:03 PM
Brooklyn Bridge Walkers/Bikers (and DIBS):
It's getting treacherous out there as tourist season peaks. I've been noticing the crowds growing exponentially in the last couple of weeks, and last night a tourist "stopped short" in the bike lane (as they are prone to do), and the biker, sans bike helmet, ran into him and took a major spill. Tourist seemed OK, but very rattled that he'd felled the biker, and the biker went flying, and he was covered - and I mean, covered - in blood, gushing from his forehead.
In more pleasant "eye candy" news, Dave, I've been noticing a lot of buff Asians on the bridge in the evening. By my count, at least 3 jogging last night. (So as not to poach on your territory, there were plenty of Italians and Eastern Europeans for me!)
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 3:05 PM
I love Yard Crashers. Did you see they've got a new version out now, Home Crashers? Not the same host though.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 3:05 PM
I hate flip flops. They hurt and I see no need to separate my big toes from the smaller ones. They get along just fine :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 3:06 PM
snappy, for some reason that reminds of a public access gameshow from the 80's that a friend told me about the other day called "guess the rent" where they'd go into people's apartments (shitty east village hovels) and look around at all their stuff, weird bathrooms, tubs in the kitchen, closets, etc. People had to call in and guess how much rent they were paying. I guess what made it interesting was 1) access to people's homes/lifestyles and 2) the absurd rents that were commanded (OK, still are...) for total dumps. Slumlords were special in the 80's though.
Posted by: herkimermaid at August 18, 2009 3:06 PM
"The New York Daily News recently tested two pairs of flip-flops as well, ones that traipsed through bars in New York's West Village, plodded through Brooklyn's Prospect Park, rode the F, A, C, G, 2 and 3 subway trains, attended a Brooklyn Cyclones game in Coney Island and rode the Cyclone roller coaster. One pair wandered into the Coney Island subway station's public restroom."
Bogus.....they didn't survey Williamsburg OR Bushwick, where 78% of flip-flop wearers reside.
Posted by: East New York at August 18, 2009 3:06 PM
CMU, I wasn't boasting about fighting but rather that I wouldn't mind fighting if people start with me. Just because I'm not the type to "just take it" doesn't make me boasting about fighting. Like now, I don't agree with your comments and I'm saying I don't agree. I didn't throw out holier than thou. You threw it at me and expect me to just take it? as you like to say, if you expect to walk over people and expect them to take it, you dont belong in NYC. as for "holier than thou" reference - Return to Sender.
Posted by: more4less at August 18, 2009 3:06 PM
CarGar, are you single? We gotta get you over to Excelsior and find you a hunk-o-man!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 3:07 PM
Herki...now there's a game show!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 3:08 PM
What tipped you off, Snappy? My quest for eye candy on the Brooklyn Bridge?!
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 3:09 PM
bxgrl: no dissonance there. 'green' is being energy-conscious, low carbon footprint etc., and I do subscribe to tthe indoor-air-quality thing, which is where smoking would come in.
'smoke stinks'...the nose of the snifee. many people think beer stinks. my father, smoker that he was, thought wine had the most horrible taste and smell. It's only this generation that reviles smoking.
I'm not glamorizing it, nor suggesting that the Majority L of the anti-smoking rules are not acceptable. But why (to you free-marketers) we don't let bars, for example, institute their own smoking rules is beyond me. You and I might never be able to meet for a drink unless one of us compromises, but that's ok too. And it might bring back tolerance, a virtue sadly lacking nowadays.
Posted by: cmu at August 18, 2009 3:09 PM
"guess the rent"
Good lord. I can see an on-air fistfight breaking out over something like that. It must have taken guts to even air a show like that! Then again, you said it was public TV.
Posted by: East New York at August 18, 2009 3:11 PM
All righty Cargar...I'll borrow Biff's blue ruffled shirt and Gene Rayburn style long microphone and try another hook up. I make a great hostess...ask 6years and Jessi :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 3:11 PM
I can't stand that thing that separates your big toe from the others.
I'd much rather wear something that covered more of my skinny boney feet anway.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 3:12 PM
quote:
Bogus.....they didn't survey Williamsburg OR Bushwick, where 78% of flip-flop wearers reside.
HA! great point! it's kind of mind boggling how many "men" are walking around this summer in womens' flip flops. why not go all out and pur on some clear pumps while youre at it!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 18, 2009 3:12 PM
Plenty of eye candy on the subway, C Gar. there was a particularly hunky asian that got on the E at 34th street this morning.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 3:13 PM
"But why (to you free-marketers) we don't let bars, for example, institute their own smoking rules is beyond me."
PREACH ON! FYI, I fear this is a lost cause.
Posted by: East New York at August 18, 2009 3:13 PM
yeah I agree snappy. I would watch it if it were still on but there's no market for it now that people are so fancy and designy about everything. I think it would be a riot to film a place that had dirty laundry strewn around the floor, dishes piled in the sink, bare bulbs (home depot fixtures got nothin' on a bare bulb), etc... times have certainly changed.
Posted by: herkimermaid at August 18, 2009 3:14 PM
New product idea to suggest to my buddy Marty who runs a shoe factory in Shenzhen:
Flip-flops made from anti-bacterial treated plastic!
Posted by: WonTon at August 18, 2009 3:15 PM
""But why (to you free-marketers) we don't let bars, for example, institute their own smoking rules is beyond me."
PREACH ON! FYI, I fear this is a lost cause. "
You all realize the majority of noise/QOL complaints regarding bars is because people aren't allowed to smoke inside right?
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 18, 2009 3:16 PM
"(home depot fixtures got nothin' on a bare bulb)"
ROFL!!! So true!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 3:16 PM
"Plenty of eye candy on the subway"
I know, Dave, that's why I'm ready for a nooner by the time I get to work in the morning!
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 3:17 PM
"You all realize the majority of noise/QOL complaints regarding bars is because people aren't allowed to smoke inside right?"
Hell, YEAH!
Posted by: East New York at August 18, 2009 3:18 PM
I wonder if bar owners would be amenable to paying a smoking fee...say $10k a year or so paid to the city for the right to allow folks to smoke in their bars. The city would have some great income from it and the bars could easily make up that money because I know as a smoker, the more I can smoke, the more likely I am to continue pounding beer.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 3:19 PM
hmm.. okay im definitely pro-smoking and stuff, but the no smoking in bars i do not mind. i love going out for a cigarette. it also gives you a good excuse to flee any given conversation / situation. i live in a heavy smoking apartment, and seriously, i am always wiping things down top to bottom, youd be shocked how it really does turn everything yellow. but it comes off with mr. clean magic erase like MAGIC, so it's no big deal.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 18, 2009 3:20 PM
i am always wiping things down top to bottom, youd be shocked how it really does turn everything yellow. but it comes off with mr. clean magic erase like MAGIC, so it's no big deal.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 18, 2009 3:20 PM
Does it work on your lungs too??? :(
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 3:22 PM
You know, the government claims to care about the health/rights of nonsmokers but it's all bullsh!t. Cigarettes have killed far more people than weed ever has and ever will. Cigarettes remain legal and smokers rights will always prevail in some fashion because the government makes way too much money off of cigarette companies in terms of taxes. If they could find a way to make the same money off of weed, that would be legal, too. Same argument can be made regarding the deadly nature of alcohol.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 3:25 PM
I tolerated smoke from other people's cigarettes (including my relatives) for years. So did most non-smokers- we suffered for years with it because we had no choice. Try to eat in a nice restaurant? Forget it. Go to a bar for a few drinks and come home reeking of cigarette smoke on your newly drycleaned expensive suit? Trying to work in a small room without open windows and putting up with the reek of cigarettes?You think tolerance is a virtue sorely lacking? I think if smokers like you had been more considerate in the first place, you'd wouldn't be begging for tolerance now?
If anyone is being disingenuous about smoke and how it smells, its you. I'd also like to point out that unless you're swimming in gallons of, wine and beer involve going over and actively sniffing. Please- not even you are able to claim the smell of wine or beer is as intrusive as cigarette smoke. Don't even try. I don't care if you smoke. I don't care if you love having your lungs gunked up with nicotene and tar. I don't care if you do it outside in the street. But I for one am perfectly happy to sit through a meal where I can smell the food and not cigarettes. Your smoking is your problem- don't make it mine.
Posted by: bxgrl at August 18, 2009 3:28 PM
"If they could find a way to make the same money off of weed, that would be legal, too. Same argument can be made regarding the deadly nature of alcohol. "
AMEN!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 18, 2009 3:28 PM
quote:
Does it work on your lungs too??? :(
no, for that you use that canned air stuff they sell at Staples.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 18, 2009 3:29 PM
Agreed on that snappy- and for the record my anti-smoking rant is not for people like you and DH who try to be considerate.
Posted by: bxgrl at August 18, 2009 3:29 PM
Rob, ROFL!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 3:32 PM
Alcohol is easily one of the most dangerous drugs available. It's literally toxic. It kills millions of people each year. And it's legal.
Posted by: East New York at August 18, 2009 3:32 PM
"... the reason coke and weed are illegal in America because the best coke and weed ain't made in America ..."
Chris Rock
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 3:34 PM
Marijuana is illegal simply for the reason that hemp competed very effectively on price with timber for paper production and William randolph Hearst owned most of the US timberland back then and backed the movement against marijuana.
A very run on sentence but now you know the history.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 3:34 PM
If the government were serious about such things, cigarettes and alcohol would land your @ss in jail the same way crack and meth does. The fact that that doesn't happen speaks volumes.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 3:35 PM
Have you ever seen that series...Illegal Drugs and How They Became Illegal? It's very interesting.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 3:36 PM
I've seen that series Snappy. I'm also aware of the Hearst connection, and that cocaine was once legal and widely available in consumer products in this country.
Posted by: East New York at August 18, 2009 3:40 PM
haha bxgrl i know ;)
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 18, 2009 3:40 PM
Oh, Bxgirl, while I'm thinking about it, I wanted to tell you and MM that Petland Discounts does a program similar to Petco's Luv My Pet vaccination clinic and I believe it's slightly cheaper. You should check it out.
(sorry to bring up cats...back to our regularly scheduled programming!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 3:41 PM
Yes, I previously thought the whole cocaine in Coca Cola was an urban legend, then when I saw that series I was like, DAMN! And was it heroin that used to be sold in Sears catalogs?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 3:42 PM
There used to be a product for stomach cramps called Peragoric.....it contained opium. It was great. My grandmother used to give it to us for stomach cramps. When it was outlawed in New York she'd get it in Vermont.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 3:43 PM
"weed is illegal? are you sure about that?"
weed has been decriminalized in most states if you are in possession of under an ounce.
if you get stopped by a cop in nyc and they try to do the whole 'stop and frisk' thing - they cannot arrest you for possessing MJ - only write you a ticket for a violation.
they also can't go into your pockets, just pat you down to check for weapons.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 18, 2009 3:44 PM
I don't smoke. I don't like 2nd hand smoke. but doesn't mean I go around imposing on people. This is a FREE country and I'm free to have an opinion. "An opinion" is all mine. when one imposes on others than it's not an opinion anymore, it's "getting into someone's business"
I'm for legalized weed even though I dont smoke it. Wonder if Marlboro would dominate that market too
Posted by: more4less at August 18, 2009 3:44 PM
"Have you ever seen that series...Illegal Drugs and How They Became Illegal? It's very interesting. "
I think I saw that snappy.
I think that was where i heard that cocaine was origninally criminalized because they thought it gave black people superhuman powers (or something similarlly idiotic)
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 18, 2009 3:44 PM
i don't know, i think we're headed for legalization within our lifetime. Enforcement is much looser than it used to be... just last week I smoked a joint walking down smith street (11pm) and then there was the b'stoner gathering (those of us who participated can hopefully recall where we were) and also standing outside a restaurant recently with friends who were smoking cigs I toked up (8pm). Granted I wouldn't have done it in front of a cop but NO ONE even looked twice.
Posted by: herkimermaid at August 18, 2009 3:46 PM
DH, we black folks are superhuman without it. J/K LOL :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 3:47 PM
I think outlawing alcohol was an exercise in futility, if I remember the history of Prohibition. I think the same would happen for smoking- the idea is that people should take responsibility for what they do if they smoke or drink. I have never understood why drunk drivers basically get a pass after they cause a fatal accident. You know driving is dangerous business.There are no drunk driving accidents. they are drunk driving murders.
I don't think smoking should be outlawed but because it is so intrusive, nonsmokers shouldn't have to deal with it.
Posted by: bxgrl at August 18, 2009 3:50 PM
dh- just wondering how you know so much about being frisked ;0)
Posted by: bxgrl at August 18, 2009 3:52 PM
quote:
it gave black people superhuman powers
uh, you don't my former neighbor!!! sorry
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 18, 2009 3:53 PM
I fantasize about Asian and Latino cops frisking me.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 3:53 PM
If outlawing alcohol is futility in terms of it being about taking responsibility for one's actions, the same could arguably be said about many drugs that are currently illegal.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 3:55 PM
Dave, you horndog!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 3:55 PM
"it gave black people superhuman powers"
I know some brothers who sure THOUGHT they had superpowers while indulging.
Posted by: East New York at August 18, 2009 3:56 PM
"Enforcement is much looser than it used to be... just last week I smoked a joint walking down smith street (11pm) and then there was the b'stoner gathering (those of us who participated can hopefully recall where we were) "
Wait - you mean people were doing drugs at the last gathering!? **gasp**
I have no real frame of reference regarding enforcement loosening. I've gotten caught twice smoking a blunt in public - first time the cop just had me clip it and gave me a warning. The 2nd time i got an open container ticket and the cop confiscated my sh*t - which he probably smoked in his car.
I read somewhere there is a huge disparity in the country in arrests re: pot - something like 80% of the non criminal arrests made are of black people, when 70% of smokers are white people.
For the record, both of the po po that stopped me were black.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 18, 2009 3:57 PM
quote:
it gave black people superhuman powers
Nowadays I find that poppers work well to produce the same effect in bed. :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 4:00 PM
"dh- just wondering how you know so much about being frisked ;0)"
I got frisked once while visiting family of my roommate in the projects in the south bronx (due east of yankee stadium, right next to concourse village)
I wasn't carrying anything - but I know my rights, and I like messing with overambitious rookie cops.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 18, 2009 4:01 PM
"The 2nd time i got an open container ticket and the cop confiscated my sh*t - which he probably smoked in his car."
ROFL! There was a comedian who used to appear on Def Comedy Jam who had a routine about cops busting into a house where there was 100 lbs of weed.
Cop "Man! What are you doin' with a 100 lbs of weed?" **begins shoving some of it in his pockets**
"Dude, don't you know that 80 lbs of weed can getcho @ss put in jail?" **shoving more weed into his pockets**
"60 lbs of weed? WTF were you thinkin'?"
**shoving weed in the trunk of the cruiser**
"10 lbs of weed? How high did you plan on gettin'?"
**more weed goes in the trunk**
"Well, since you only got a single pound of weed I'mll look the other way...this time!"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 4:02 PM
and marijuana was originally made illegal because of the cotton lobby - hemp was a cheaper and more durable material so "big cotton" did a smear campaign - not unlike what is happening now with nationalized healthcare
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 18, 2009 4:03 PM
quote:
and then there was the b'stoner gathering
shhhh!!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 18, 2009 4:03 PM
I am SO not making it to PLUSA of the day. Where do you people get the time???
And Excelsior is kinda skanky. I wish there was a nicer gay bar in PS.
Posted by: bupe at August 18, 2009 4:03 PM
What are poppers?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 4:03 PM
I agree snappy- but then again, the human race is hardly about taking responsibility and a lot about self-indulgence. :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at August 18, 2009 4:04 PM
not sure about the stats actually though that sadly doesn't really surprise me, even still. that said, i think general enforcement and practice IS looser, certainly from when I was in my 20's.
Posted by: herkimermaid at August 18, 2009 4:05 PM
There was an over-the-counter children's cough medicine when I was a kid that had opium in it - I loved it.
Posted by: Arkady at August 18, 2009 4:06 PM
Bupe, first off, hello and welcome :) You don't like Excelsior? I love their garden, the bartenders are super nice and there is no higher level of fun than hangin' with the gay boys :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 4:07 PM
Arkady...Ha!!!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 4:07 PM
Wow bxgrl The point about wine./beer was totally lost, I' afraid. you not reading nuances of my posts too well, but then most rabid anti-smokers don't. The point was: what's 'stinky' is subject to social convention, habit and peer pressure.
And it's you who's lumping me in the 'inconsiderate' sector.I actually didn't even claim to smoke, just that I'm from the old-fashioned school which tolerates my friends' and relatives' habits.
Posted by: cmu at August 18, 2009 4:07 PM
DH:
is your 3:44 statement true? how do you know that?
Posted by: gemini10 at August 18, 2009 4:08 PM
Bxgirl, we are a hedonistic lot! LOL
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 4:10 PM
"DH:
is your 3:44 statement true? how do you know that?"
I was watching a documentary on the history channel a while back. It was definitely something like that - but that wasn't the primary reason. I'll do a little research after work and report back on it.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 18, 2009 4:10 PM
ooooohhhhh...PLUSA homework! DH, I'm gonna take the initiative and crown you PL of the day! LOL
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 4:12 PM
i actually went to excelsior on saturday for a bit.
and get this?
i wasnt told to leave!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 18, 2009 4:12 PM
Snappy, cobble, who's getting bupe his PLUSA Handbook (all done - cobble gave me her mark-up at Ellis, and I incorporated all her changes) and tiara?
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 4:13 PM
so... it's getting on for cocktail hour. Biff are we meeting you at Cubby Hole?
Posted by: herkimermaid at August 18, 2009 4:14 PM
My grandma (who turns 95 this Thursday in Bismarck, ND) quit smoking cold turkey at age 92. She had been smoking for at least 70 years - not sure how many a day but I know it was a lot. Why quit at that age? She didn't have the strength to get the stains off the walls anymore during spring cleaning.
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at August 18, 2009 4:15 PM
CarGar...the handing out of the PLUSA manual is up to Cobble. I simple add nonsense rules for you all to follow and for you specifically to type up :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 4:18 PM
haha thanks snappy!
i find that stuff really interesting though - i find it laughable that stuff like marijuana is not legal, but it's not that hard to get your hands on hydro/oxycodone, and other opiate/amphetamine painkillers that are much more addictive.
Oh and adderal is big now too - which is basically legal cocaine.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 18, 2009 4:18 PM
Rob, and you didn't invite me? :-(
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 4:18 PM
Six!
you are sooo lucky to have a Gma and one that is 95! - god Bless! yeah agreed, I wonder why she gave up smoking after sooooo many years?
DH - thanks, please do!
Posted by: gemini10 at August 18, 2009 4:20 PM
I'd be too afraid to mess with any of it. My dad has a supply of oxy that would make your eyes bulge. He never uses any of it, but fills the prescriptions (WTF?). They have an entire kitchen cabinet full of the stuff. He used it once for the pain and then was like 'uh-uh!' and hasn't taken it since.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 4:20 PM
I had the name of the series wrong...it's called "Hooked: Illegal Drugs and How They Got That Way"
It's going to air again on the History Channel on August 28th at 11pm...set your dvr!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 4:24 PM
That's the show I watched Snappy!! I'll have to set my DVR!
Yeah oxy is bad news.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 18, 2009 4:26 PM
Herk, please define "we"!
Posted by: Biff Champion at August 18, 2009 4:27 PM
95? damn. ugh if my grandmother lasts that long i will shoot myself in my f'ing face.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 18, 2009 4:27 PM
ok this is a DUMB question:
why are pain killers so desired and so addictive?
what do they do exactly?
sure, if you have a bad back and you pop a painkiller, I assume the pain eases temporarily....
but why are soo many people addicted to them? are these people in that much physical pain that they need the drugs?
Posted by: gemini10 at August 18, 2009 4:28 PM
um... well Biff, everyone who knows you're going to be there?? :) just kiddin'. I thought you were going to politely "pretend" you didn't see that! but gee it sure sounds like it'd be an awful lot of fun...
on another note... general question for those of you who seem very well informed: where does "flexeril" fall in the desirable drug category?
Posted by: herkimermaid at August 18, 2009 4:32 PM
I honestly don't get the thrill of pain killers. When I have to take them (and only do for severe pain that advil and tylenol won't kill) I'm always nervous. They make me sleepy and grouchier than normal. I hate that. I guess different people react to them in different ways. I remember that darvoset and percocet used to make me see things in much brighter colors. I didn't like that either. Maybe some people do.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 4:32 PM
Flexeril is a wonderful back pain drug. When I was going through physical therapy for my back, flexeril made walking around more bearable. I don't know why anyone would want to take it for fun though.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 4:34 PM
Snappy. there are a lot of things people do "for fun" that you and I and many others might not understand. :)
Shall I construct a list???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at August 18, 2009 4:35 PM
quote:
where does "flexeril" fall in the desirable drug category?
right up there with pamprin and midol
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 18, 2009 4:36 PM
dibs, I think your list would be blocked by most companies browsers.
Posted by: DeLepp at August 18, 2009 4:38 PM
Gem - most painkillers are opiate based, so a person who uses them develops a strong physical dependence to them. When they stop taking them, they go thru withdrawl symptoms.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 18, 2009 4:40 PM
thanks snaps and rob that answers my question. damn.
Posted by: herkimermaid at August 18, 2009 4:40 PM
Rob, ROFL!!!!
Dave, I'd be afraid to see that list, but I have a feeling that heterosexual sex is right at the top!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 4:42 PM
Um, long day at work...Rob! Did you read my little joke a few days ago about the fictional Park Slope mom who objected to the fictional you smoking outside in the 7-11 parking lot??? Where I grew up, it was illegal to smoke anywhere within 50 yards (or something) of a business. Me and my friends got lots of dirty looks.
Posted by: mopar at August 18, 2009 4:43 PM
DH:
but... in order to get hooked on a pain killer what is going on inside You as the person that is becoming an addict off of this drug?
I have taken pain killers and never felt like "wow I want to start taking these all the time"
idk - I just don't understand the addiction to these drugs per se
Posted by: gemini10 at August 18, 2009 4:45 PM
Speaking of 711 parking lots...on the train to Jersey this weekend I saw a 711 with the requisite trashy parking lot. I immediately thought of you Rob. If I had a 40 on me, I would have poured a few sips on the ground in your honor, true ghetto style :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 4:46 PM
yes i did mopar!!!!hahahah funny stuff, especially the two goth teenage chicks who bummed cigarettes from me ahhah
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 18, 2009 4:47 PM
G10, you must never have been shot full of painkillers in the hospital. After that happens and you feel like you're floating on air, you'll understand!
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at August 18, 2009 4:49 PM
Addictive drugs have always scared the living sh!t outta me. My family has a lot of addictive personalities...I have a cousin who, in the early to mid 80s, was addicted to a number of things. To feed her habit, she robbed her parents while they were at work. Stole everything in the apt down to their underwear. When they came home the whole apt. was empty save for a lone fork - no lie! She then got a job driving for a furniture manufacturer. She drove the truck full of furniture to somewhere in Iowa and sold the truck along with its entire contents for drugs. Now that's addiction my friends!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 4:49 PM
quote:
I saw a 711 with the requisite trashy parking lot. I immediately thought of you Rob.
LOL so lovely what things will conjure thoughts of me.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 18, 2009 4:50 PM
Six:
that might be it! knock on wood am pretty healthy and have escaped typical ailments and have never been in a hospital
Posted by: gemini10 at August 18, 2009 4:51 PM
i dunno gem - addiction is scary.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 18, 2009 5:01 PM
Whoa, that hard core Snappy. I've avoided becoming addicted to most things, save cigs and my two glasses of wine. Coke is the worst one that almost got me—but I got so effed up I blew off a date with a really cute guy...that's when I knew I had to stop!! LOL! Now you know what motivates me!
Back pills can be a mixed bag, I took some once that had me drooling on the sofa for almost three days. I finally realized I had to sober up and stop taking those....the apt could have burned down around me and I wouldn't have cared.
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 18, 2009 5:01 PM
Cobble, ROFL!!! I've done that drooling on the sofa bit and it ain't fun! So, cuties make you put on the brakes, eh? Good thing you've got "Chad" :) LOL
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 5:05 PM
no doubt chiller - coke is effin scary
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 18, 2009 5:08 PM
cobble, we need a manual and a tiara for bupe. Snappy said you dole out the manuals.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 5:10 PM
Entemann's Chocolate-covered donuts...
now that's a scary addiction!
Posted by: gemini10 at August 18, 2009 5:13 PM
I think we're all addicted to that rare drug called OT. Just think if the government taxed us per post!
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at August 18, 2009 5:13 PM
[Oh alright CGar!!]
bupe, Welcome!! Your PLUSA manual, tiara, and membership card are in the mail.
Please be advised that upon attending your first PLUSA gathering, you will be expected to buy the first round of shots. Identification of one or more PLUSAs will earn you extra credit.
Please send Snappy your membership dues by the 15th of the month, she gets cranky if you're late, and we stop sending the newsletter after two late payments.
Also, please advise your boss that s/he needs to lighten your workload so that you can keep up with posting regularly. Spotty posting is frowned upon!!
Sincerely Mgmt.
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 18, 2009 5:16 PM
Cobble that's awesome! Oh, and the newsletter has been canceled. Printing costs went through the roof :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 5:22 PM
Well done, Cobble! Merci.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 5:22 PM
Snappy, nobody tells me anything! And I had a great article about bar-hopping with strangers for the next issue! Damn! ; )
Thank you CGar, you're a tough task master! ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 18, 2009 5:26 PM
Wait, I DO want a Tiara - and I do read manuals, so shouldn't Mr. B just post one up (FAQ for OT)?
And snappy, I don't disagree with hanging out with gay boys (being one myself, albeit a married one - what a bore!), I just want variety and (sorry) something upscale
Posted by: bupe at August 18, 2009 5:27 PM
DIBS, you still around?
"Buggy whips and manacles come to mind in dark gas-lit boudoirs"
I just bet they do! ROFL!
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 5:32 PM
mega millions is 170 mill tonight
if i win i'm buying the HOTD - gutting it and turning it into a loft!!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 18, 2009 5:35 PM
LOL Cobble...ok...the newsletter is hereby reinstated :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 5:35 PM
bupe, Just FYI, the manual is well over 10,000 pages at this point, so a FAQ is prohibitively long, and a PDF just crashes people's browsers. Watch your mail, there's a quiz 3 days after it arrives. ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 18, 2009 5:35 PM
"if i win i'm buying the HOTD - gutting it and turning it into a loft!!"
I see a 500 post thread in our future!! LOL!
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 18, 2009 5:36 PM
Phew! Thank you Snappy!
CGar, you are free to edit this edition over the weekend aren't you?
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 18, 2009 5:39 PM
Cobblehiller, I am used to long readings - scroll up to see the Russian origins. War and Peace? Anna Karenina? 9th grade in the former USSR... (God, that sucked).
Posted by: bupe at August 18, 2009 5:40 PM
"if i win i'm buying the HOTD - gutting it and turning it into a loft!!"
ROFL, dh
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 5:41 PM
"CGar, you are free to edit this edition over the weekend aren't you?"
Of course I am, Cobble. Your wish is, after all, my command. You will find me in my tent. On your deck. You will have Chet bring me my iced coffee, yes? And if Chet is too busy, then Chad will do.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 5:43 PM
Wow cobblehiller, it's so great you were able to do that. I'm in awe.
Posted by: infinitejester at August 18, 2009 5:46 PM
Excellent, I knew I could count on you! Chet, and/or Chad will be at your beck and call!
He makes a mean iced coffee, and fantastic hors d'oeurves!
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 18, 2009 5:46 PM
"it's so great you were able to do that. I'm in awe."
infinite, What? That I wrote a 10,000 page manual??
Great to hear bupe! Then the 6,000 word essay questions should be a breeze for you!
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 18, 2009 5:49 PM
Hmmmm...perhaps we need a b'stoner lotto pool...although I can't lie...If we won and I was holding on to the winning ticket I'd be very tempted to pretend I didn't know you asshats! LOL
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 5:49 PM
"Chet, and/or Chad will be at your beck and call!"
Thanks, Cobble. BTW, bupe has to play "Name that PLUSA" (and break my record of naming 3 in a row, with no hints). I assume this will be in the revised manual?
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 5:52 PM
hors d'oeurves? I'll be by tomorrow around 7:30 :) We can watch House Hunters on HGTV and make fun of the homes without crown moldings while we chew :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 5:52 PM
"Hmmmm...perhaps we need a b'stoner lotto pool..."
If we ever won - it would be the best thing to prop up brooklyn real estate values
Posted by: dirty_hipster at August 18, 2009 5:53 PM
Tell me about it DH...we would all be out there buying homes! I already have my dream home in mind. Granted, it's not for sale, but if I flash enough cash, I'm sure they'd be willing to pack their sh!t and get out :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 5:55 PM
"bupe has to play "Name that PLUSA" (and break my record of naming 3 in a row, with no hints). I assume this will be in the revised manual?"
Correct, I've thoroughly revised chapters 46-87, to which I am confident bupe will pay special attention!
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 18, 2009 5:55 PM
Nytol! Off to walk the Bridge and hopefully avoid being run down by tourists.
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 5:57 PM
Cobble...I think we should introduce a PLUSA Manual audiobook for our PLUSAs in Training (PITs) who are on the go!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 5:58 PM
Night Cargar...try to keep your eyeballs in your head when you see eye candy :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 5:58 PM
I'll try, Snappy, but tis not easy!
Posted by: CarrollGardened at August 18, 2009 6:01 PM
CGar, dinner is at 7:30, please don't be late...Chad gets cranky!
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 18, 2009 6:02 PM
Time to drag my bum foot down the stairs to play the mega millions...gotta be in it to win it! Nite everyone...smooches!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at August 18, 2009 6:05 PM
"PLUSA Manual audiobook"
Snappy, Fabulous idea, it's on the fall programming list.
If you win the lottery, can we have a real PLUSA office with office supplies and everything?
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 18, 2009 6:13 PM
cobble your 5:01? may have misread it.
Posted by: infinitejester at August 18, 2009 6:18 PM
Ah, yes, that. Well, it was something. Fortunately very short lived, and without long term damage....young and stupid, very.
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 18, 2009 6:24 PM
if i win the megamillions (which i forgot to buy a ticket) im turning it into a luxury homeless shelter. FOR CATS!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 18, 2009 6:26 PM
"Wow bxgrl The point about wine./beer was totally lost, I' afraid. you not reading nuances of my posts too well, but then most rabid anti-smokers don't. The point was: what's 'stinky' is subject to social convention, habit and peer pressure.
And it's you who's lumping me in the 'inconsiderate' sector.I actually didn't even claim to smoke, just that I'm from the old-fashioned school which tolerates my friends' and relatives' habits. "- cmu
Ah well, there you go again, cmu.Nuance? I think "poor comparison" is much closer to the mark. The "nuance" you missed is that cigarette smoke is much more intrusive on other people because of the smoke, which does stink. Unless you're addicted to it. You went after M4L, calling him "self-righteous, among other things. You assumed I said second hand smoke from someone behind me outdoors would hurt my lungs- I had to tell you twice to not put words in my mouth and yet you persist.
Now you also assume I am among the most "rabid anti-smokers" I'm sure you won't believe me when I say I'm not because as M4L pointed out earlier today, you're too busy being holier-than-thou all the time. However I even let friends who smoke do so when I have invited them to my home because I don't want them feeling uncomfortable. However, when I go to a restaurant and pay good money for a dinner, or spend bucks in a bar or have to work in an environment where some people make it difficult for others- you bet I love those anti-smoking laws. If you think that makes you a much better person than me, well so be it. I guess you would tolerate your friends driving drunk or beating their wives too? (Let me know if you get the subtle nuances of that).
Posted by: bxgrl at August 18, 2009 7:23 PM
Cobble, welcome back.
Posted by: mopar at August 18, 2009 7:24 PM
Thanks mopar! Btw, I have been holding onto something for you from BH. Sorry I missed you at Ellis—hope to see you again at a PLUSA gathering soon!
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 18, 2009 7:27 PM
** "if i win the megamillions (which i forgot to buy a ticket) im turning it into a luxury homeless shelter. FOR CATS!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at August 18, 2009 6:26 PM**
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Who are you and what have you done with our beloved *rob*? :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at August 18, 2009 7:28 PM
cobble- where have you been?
Posted by: bxgrl at August 18, 2009 7:29 PM
Hi bxgrl, Well, last Sunday night my computer showed signs of taking it's last gasps after 6 years of pretty steady service. And on Monday it died, and BH could not revive it, which is saying something. Diagnosis is that the fan died, and I cooked the motherboard!
So after hours of unsuccessful resuscitation attempts BH looked at me and said, get your bag, we're going to the Apple store. And off we went. And we got cables and stuff from his place of employ and he was able, after minor surgery, to get my old hard drive out of the dead body...and carry my info over to the new machine...it was dramatic, and fast!
And no sooner had we gotten that in hand, then we had to leave for a few days visit to the NJ shore with friends...which was great! Then immediately upon our return...we had to finish the migration from the old hard drive to the new one...
It's been nuts...it's all ok now, but it was nuts!
How are ya?
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 18, 2009 7:59 PM
Been a rough week. Had a death in the family and spending time with my cousins, one of whom is very ill with AIDS. It was their mother who died- we had all been close growing up and it was just very sad.
Still looking for steady work- its scary. So sorry to hear about your computer. I am going to get my alienware laptop renovated and I think I may go open source on it. And rebuild my big desktop- wish I could afford a mac but that will have to wait. My dream is to have lots of computers :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at August 18, 2009 8:20 PM
bxgrl, Interesting. Bark worse than bite, eh? No, from your prev posts, you do sound 'rabidly antoi-smoking', then you admit you let friends smoke around you. Go figure.
Addicted? Not me, and I for one think smoke smells fine. My to-be-ex, an artist, said she loved the smell of turpentine. Was she addicted to it? Hardly. One's aversion to smells is mostly conditioned, it's not like cig smoke is innately horrible.
And, both you and m4l note, it isn't me that started this. Anti-smokers immediately feel they have to tell the world how horrible cigs are and how smokers are (implicitly) stupid and death-loving (check your own language above.) I just reacted to extremism with extremism, not politic perhaps but this is the net after all.
Posted by: cmu at August 18, 2009 9:28 PM
bxgrl, I'm so sorry to hear that. It sounds like a brutal week. Never easy to cope with the death of a dear one. It's stressful and painful. I'm glad you have each other to lean on. Family is so important, no one else knows how it feels, as clearly, in these times.
Well, if I can give you any words of encouragement, some people I've been talking to in the financial world seem to think business is going to pick up in the fall. I'm 'banking' on that myself at the moment.
If you need help with setting up a machine in open source/linux, BH has his home machine set up that way, and knows a ton about it, just let me know. I'm happy just to have one working machine. It's was a strange experience to not have one for a few days — how did we become so dependent on them?
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 18, 2009 10:09 PM
cmu- you interpret everything in the extreme- if it doesn't agree with you. You decided I was rabidly anti-smokers. that's your problem, not mine. Where did I or M4L note that you did not start this? First you put words in people's mouths, then you misinterpret and finally you simply make stuff up. Your comparisons are ridiculous- I too happen to like the smell of turpentine but I don't go around blowing it into the air so everyone else can share my joy. Smokers "share"- and while you may like the smell, the majority of non-smokers find it offensive. For the record I didn't call them stupid or death-loving (again you put words in my mouth. Put your money where your mouth is and quote me.)What I do find interesting is your increasingly desperate defense of cigarette smoking. Got issues much?
Posted by: bxgrl at August 18, 2009 11:53 PM
cobble- thanks. And so if I had to ask BH to help with setting up an open source os for my other laptop, do I have to start calling him Chad (or Chet?) ;)
Posted by: bxgrl at August 18, 2009 11:55 PM
bxgrl, yes, please refer to BH as Chad!
Btw, when I mentioned this to Chet, I mean Chad, he said yes, feel free. You have his email, no? [And .... turns out he knows waaay more about this subject than I even thought!]
Posted by: cobblehiller at August 19, 2009 8:43 AM
Cobble, bxgrl, very sorry to hear that.
Posted by: mopar at August 19, 2009 11:00 PM
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