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July 1, 2009

Wednesday Links

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State’s Top Court Will Hear Appeal Against Atlantic Yards [NY Times]
Queens Street Corner Will Be Named for Run-DMC [NY Times]
NYC Population Up By 53,000 in 2008 [NY Post]
NYPD Creates Terrorism Handbook for Landlords [NY Post]
AY Faces Roadblock from State Court of Appeals [NY Daily News]
Summer's Rain Bad News for Coney Businesses [NY Daily News]
July 4 Biggest Day for Flag Man [NY Daily News]
Gun Attack on St. Felix Street [Brooklyn Paper]
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New York City grew by more than 53,000 residents for the 12-month period ending July 2008, the biggest numerical increase of any city in the country, a US Census estimate shows.

The city's population was estimated at more than 8.36 million people, up from about 8.31 million in July 2007.

While a population increase has been the pattern of the past several years, the latest numbers show a shift in the pattern of who's moving into and out of the city, said Joseph Salvo, chief demographer for New York.

In the 12-month period ending in July 2008, Salvo said, fewer immigrants have been coming in but fewer residents have been leaving.

"Our inflows and outflows are balancing each other in ways we haven't seen in 25 years," he said.

HEY WHAT.....I thought you said you saw the moving trucks lined up and everyone was leaving???? With inventories of brownstones on the market so low, it's no wonder that we get Last Weeks Biggest Sales so astounding to Team Bear every week.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 1, 2009 8:57 AM

i guess can see that figure as anti-bear market.
More people is more demand. How many housing units do you need to create for 53000 people? 13000? 15000?

Posted by: Petebklyn at July 1, 2009 9:25 AM

5000 of them waiting in Williamsburg already pete

Posted by: dittoburg at July 1, 2009 9:31 AM

Pete wrote:
More people is more demand.

I don't know how the things are calculated, but the number doesn't tell us anything about the 53,000 people, they could be rich or poor, generators of employment or welfare recipients. What I do know is that commercial and residential rents are declining in Manhattan. So how does that square? I'm not snarking btw, I want to know

Posted by: bridges at July 1, 2009 9:39 AM

it's definitely not welfare recipients coming INTO the nyc. most are being pushed out to long island and upstate ny. there are parts of long island and upstate new york that are 10x worse than the bronx.

*rob*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 1, 2009 9:55 AM

Hi Rob. I know the boom pushed some of the poor into upstate NY and PA, but that doesn't mean poor from other states aren't migrating to NYC. Hey look, some among that 53,000 bought a 2 million pad in brooklyn, but not ALL of them are doing that since obviously rents are dropping. I'm just curious what people think is really happening

Posted by: bridges at July 1, 2009 10:06 AM

rob- you diss the bronx way too much. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Posted by: bxgrl at July 1, 2009 10:08 AM

For what it is worth, NYC spends the most per capita for poverty stricken and social welfare programs. I know if I were dirt poor I would thrive in NYC relative to other parts of the country.

Posted by: newsouthsloper at July 1, 2009 10:14 AM

But the weather here sucks in the winter if you live on the street. I'd walk to the west coast.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 1, 2009 10:45 AM

In addition to the What, I believe Sam also denounced me a couple months ago and said the population of NYC was declining.

Posted by: 11217 at July 1, 2009 11:02 AM

The trend going back many, many years is that NYC loses net population to the rest of the country, and gains population from immigration.

At the height of the boom a couple years ago NYC saw a net inflow of domestic population. This has probably slowed or been reversed, but recent immigrants have a relatively high birth rate, so now the city's natural population growth is higher than it's been in a long time.

Posted by: Sparafucile at July 1, 2009 11:31 AM

Sparafucile:

"In the 12-month period ending in July 2008, Salvo said, fewer immigrants have been coming in but fewer residents have been leaving."

Posted by: 11217 at July 1, 2009 11:41 AM

"For what it is worth, NYC spends the most per capita for poverty stricken and social welfare programs. I know if I were dirt poor I would thrive in NYC relative to other parts of the country."

NYC spends more because it costs more to live here. Many people who I grew up with in the PJ's have left NYC. Even though their benefits are less elsewhere, they feel that they have a better quality of life.

Posted by: Chosen at July 1, 2009 12:34 PM

Guys you need to come to the "Case-Shiller: Beware the Head Fake" Thread!

Whuh is destroying Dave! Damn I feel a little Bad for Dave, Not!

The What

Someday this war is gonna end...

Posted by: Return of The What at July 1, 2009 1:51 PM

quote:

Many people who I grew up with in the PJ's have left NYC. Even though their benefits are less elsewhere, they feel that they have a better quality of life.

it's cuz f'ing Newports cost like 11 bux a pack here and they are like 4 down south.

*rob*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 1, 2009 3:22 PM

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