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Now you tell us what the cause of the big November shockwave is going to be????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 8, 2009 1:03 PM
No!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 8, 2009 1:11 PM
This is your last chance. Either tell us what you believe will happen in 4 months or end the ceaseless inane posting of all your crap.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 9:22 AM
Might I really be the first today? Jolly joy.
Is the economy still tanking?
Posted by: BrooklynGreene at July 9, 2009 9:23 AM
Might I really be the first today? Jolly joy.
Is the economy still tanking?
Posted by: BrooklynGreene at July 9, 2009 9:23 AM
Pwnd
Posted by: Return of Randolph at July 9, 2009 9:23 AM
Might I really be the first today? Jolly joy.
Is the economy still tanking?
Posted by: BrooklynGreene at July 9, 2009 9:23 AM
Morning all. Is it Friday yet?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 9, 2009 9:23 AM
Also, apparently someone much smarter than you believes, as I do, that China and the rest of Asia will be the engine that revives the global economy and, eventually, the US employment situation:
Soros Says China Will Help World Economy Recover From Recession
July 8 (Bloomberg) -- Billionaire George Soros called China“a positive force” that will help drive growth as the world emerges from the current economic crisis.
“For China, the crisis is something affecting them from
the outside,” said Soros, 78, in a Bloomberg Radio interview. “They can stimulate their economy. They have reserves. They have a trade surplus. They will be one of the motors of the world economy.”
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 9:24 AM
Snappy, remember - be careful what question you ask today
Posted by: more4less at July 9, 2009 9:25 AM
Thank you randi. I take back all the nasty things I've said about you (at least for today). :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 9:25 AM
You just gotta love it...
Here Jon this is a nice story...
Failed Condos to Affordable Housing Gets a Name: HARP!
http://curbed.com/archives/2009/07/09/failed_condos_to_affordable_housing_gets_a_name_harp.php
Stalled real estate developments are already being used by squatters and the homeless, and why should they have all the fun? City officials agree, and they've unveiled a $20 million pilot program to put a long rumored plan—converting unsold condos into affordable housing—into practice. The aim is to create 400 units for moderate- and middle-income households and help neighborhoods avoid the big bad blight monster.
The program is called the Housing Asset Renewal Program, and it'll focus on areas outside of Manhattan. A Notice of Funding Availability will go out in July, and projects will be selected based on discounts being offered by developers and banks, as well as how much public money it will take to get the buildings up to speed. Is this a developer bailout, as some have alleged? The city estimates the average cost of HARP housing to be below the $75,000 to $100,000 it spends to build each affordable housing unit from scratch, so we're not quite talking shelling out $1,000 per square foot. Plus, there are no good comebacks to a "You got HARPed!" diss. Develoeprs, be wary.
Get your radiation suits ready.... 5..4..3..2..1..
The What (Real Estate always goes up, ...right?)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 9, 2009 9:26 AM
"Might I really be the first today?"
No, but you were the first one to post the same thing three times in a row. :-)
"Is the economy still tanking?"
I'm sure we'll hear many different answers to this over and over today.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 9:26 AM
Did the Mets lose, er, I mean play, last night???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 9:28 AM
"Pwnd"
I thought there was an "e" in pwned. What does Merriam-Webster say about this?
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 9:28 AM
More importantly, the fellow arrested for going naked to his d-word wasn't Rob.
Posted by: Arkady at July 9, 2009 9:29 AM
M4L, today I'm only willing to discuss cats, sex and food...that oughtta keep me out of trouble! I learned my lesson yesterday man!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 9, 2009 9:29 AM
Who's Mirriam Webster?? Was that Ritchie's mother on Happy Days???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 9:30 AM
Whoa...Arkady...where/when did that happen?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 9, 2009 9:31 AM
that turning condos into affordable housing sounds like a good thing to me, as long they don't discriminate against the childless which this city notoriously does. i think people should be REWARDED for not having kids, not discriminated against.
also, is it safe to leave one's belongings unattended on coney island beaches? i was thinking about taking a trip there this saturday but i dont wanna go in the water with all my stuff. do keys rust in the water? also how do you protect your wallet while you in the water? grr. do they have lockers?
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 9, 2009 9:32 AM
Dave how come you let someone from the hood run your financial life? Damn was you up all morning thinking of what to say to me? That's a great feeling knowing I'm right between your ears, My foot up your ass and my predictions coming true.. Again...
Feels just like last summer right Jackass?
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 9, 2009 9:32 AM
hey what can i ask you a personal question? what do you for for fun, enjoyment, entertainment in your spare time? im very curious, no judgement btw.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 9, 2009 9:36 AM
Dave how come you let someone from the hood run your financial life? Damn was you up all morning thinking of what to say to me? That's a great feeling knowing I'm right between your ears, My foot up your ass and my predictions coming true.. Again...
Feels just like last summer right Jackass?
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 9, 2009 9:32 AM
You never made any specific predictions. Try making one now for a change.
And, you weren't "right between my ears," more like between my legs.
ANSWER THE QUESTION, FOOL.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 9:37 AM
Snaps - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5782811/Man-arrested-for-attending-appointment-dentist-naked.html
Posted by: Arkady at July 9, 2009 9:39 AM
"Thank you randi. I take back all the nasty things I've said about you (at least for today). :)"
ok, but what did i do?
Posted by: Return of Randolph at July 9, 2009 9:39 AM
So there's an italian street festival near my apt and my whole block smells like sausage. so annoying.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 9:40 AM
"More importantly, the fellow arrested for going naked to his d-word wasn't Rob."
I didn't hear that story. I wonder if he had his cavity filled.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 9:41 AM
Arkady, I truly laughed out loud on that one! Thank goodness I'm in the office alone right now!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 9, 2009 9:42 AM
Here's some Harlem RE porn to lighten up the mood:
http://www.corcoran.com/property/listing.aspx?Region=NYC&listingid=1563930
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 9:42 AM
Rob - just don't take a lot of stuff to the beach - metrocard, couple of bucks wrapped in a baggy for food & rides.
Posted by: Arkady at July 9, 2009 9:43 AM
DH, thought the area around you is filled with stalled construction sites. but yet they chose that area for the festival?
Posted by: more4less at July 9, 2009 9:44 AM
I thought you pointed out that the What was PWNED.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 9:44 AM
WHAT- rob is being racist over on the union market thread!!! shameful.
Posted by: Return of Randolph at July 9, 2009 9:44 AM
"how do you protect your wallet while you in the water?"
you can buy swim shorts with a waterproof pocket. I have a pair and it works great, not that I go swimming much.
Posted by: etson at July 9, 2009 9:45 AM
On that listing...what's with the 'view setup' option instead of a floorplan? Lame-o!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 9, 2009 9:46 AM
oh, i did. but i am still shocked by the compliment.
Posted by: Return of Randolph at July 9, 2009 9:46 AM
quote:
WHAT- rob is being racist over on the union market thread!!! shameful.
calling myrtle ave ghetto is racist? lol okaaaaay. plus i can say things are ghetto since im ghetto myself. so stick it randi. stick it in whatever hole youre going with today.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 9, 2009 9:51 AM
WHAT- rob is being racist over on the union market thread!!! shameful.
Sadly Rob made a great point. Sometimes Rob have flashes of brilliance.
Randi I love the -- Return of Randolph. Very nice.
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 9, 2009 9:51 AM
Possible November shockwaves:
Mars discontinues selling skittles?
Posted by: DeLepp at July 9, 2009 9:53 AM
"Ghetto" comes from Latin for 'slag' & has come to mean any neighborhood of low income - nothing racist there. It's been applied to many ethnic groups &, in an ironic sense, to upscale areas of vapidity - Golden Ghetto.
Posted by: Arkady at July 9, 2009 9:56 AM
"im ghetto myself."
please elaborate, rob. how ghetto are you and wtf does that exactly mean? i dare you to walk up to the guys outside a myrtle deli and ask them if they are ghetto and then say "its ok, so am i!!!".
so maybe not racist, but definately classist and just plain stupid.
Posted by: Return of Randolph at July 9, 2009 9:56 AM
WOW...why is part of my posting being deleted??? Very bizarre.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 9:58 AM
quote:
i dare you to walk up to the guys outside a myrtle deli and ask them if they are ghetto and then say "its ok, so am i!!!".
oh i HAVE done it before. in harlem tho, not on myrtle.
and im not going to give you a list of my ghetto attributes. youre a troll who needs to get off my dic|<
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 9, 2009 10:04 AM
M4L - I'm a block away from Havemeyer, where there's a Catholic Church which seems to be the terminus for the 'feast of the giglio'
http://www.nyhumanities.org/speakers/adult_audiences/lecture.php?lecture_id=1000
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 10:05 AM
WOW...why is part of my posting being deleted??? Very bizarre.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 9:58 AM
Maybe Brownstoner's being pwned by North Korea
Posted by: bridges at July 9, 2009 10:06 AM
I am sure it has been asked: Why Return of Randolph? Was he kicked off?
Posted by: LincolnSlope at July 9, 2009 10:06 AM
Randi Randi! Leave Rob alone! He's a misguided soul..
Rob is Bi-Polar
It's not worth it.
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 9, 2009 10:07 AM
I mistakenly typed to a friend of mine the following:
"I has two friends whose birthday is today also."
She replied:
"You has? I didn't realize that you are now working the cotton fields."
Is it racist that she said that (she's African American - and loves the Golden Girls, but I'm not talking about Snappy)
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 10:08 AM
Lincoln...she had a sex change operation.. randolph used to be "Female" and is now "Male" according to the profile.
We welcome all types here in the brownstoner community.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 10:08 AM
If I deliver a witty insult to an orange drink, is that a pwn-tang?
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 10:09 AM
Rob is Bi-Polar
It's not worth it.
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 9, 2009 10:07 AM
And what are you??? Schizophrenic???
Secondly, he may be bipolar but he doesn't live in both the Arctic and the Antarctic.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 10:10 AM
...or is that spelled gigolo?
Posted by: Legion at July 9, 2009 10:11 AM
Its racist to use the term ghetto to describe anything other than the Eastern European jewish ghettos.
Posted by: dittoburg at July 9, 2009 10:11 AM
"New York, NY - July 8, 2009 - (RealEstateRama) – Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg and City Council Speaker Christine C. Quinn today announced a $20 million pilot program to turn unsold condominiums, unrented apartments and stalled construction sites into affordable housing opportunities for moderate- and middle-income families."
http://newyork.realestaterama.com/2009/07/08/mayor-bloomberg-and-speaker-quinn-announce-housing-asset-renewal-pilot-program-ID0730.html
Posted by: East New York at July 9, 2009 10:12 AM
I live in the ghetto. The rest of you are poseurs; and, probably a lot of you are Eurotrash as well. :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 10:12 AM
haha giglio - but i totally thought it was a male prostitute feast until someone told me different.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 10:12 AM
...just a gigilo, and everybody knows...
what's that song by David Lee Roth?
Posted by: Legion at July 9, 2009 10:13 AM
MARKET DOWN 7% from recent highs. If stock market is going to lead the economy when it's going up, how about when it's going down?
China may be in a great economic position right now, but they are a fascist dictatorship, a major polluter, and have imperialist asperations.
The US stupidly put China in the cat bird seat, and eventually will have to deal with the negative implications of our short sightedness.
Dibs, how come you hate workers in this country, but love them when they run China?
Posted by: DeadCatBounce at July 9, 2009 10:13 AM
Ditto - First used in Italy not Poland.
Posted by: Arkady at July 9, 2009 10:14 AM
did you guys read about Dumpster Pools!?! turning dumpsters into pools!?!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 9, 2009 10:14 AM
"moderate- and middle-income families."
what if you're a moderate income single dude
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 10:14 AM
Ye bright and gentle PLUSAs,
Leaving tomorrow for a 3 ½ week vacation in Maine. Won’t be posting, and sad to miss all the great posts and comments. Thought I’d post my reading list though.
FICTION
1. “Let The Great World Spin” by Colum McCann – 1974 NYC, with Philippe Petit as opener.
2. “Lush Life” by Richard Price – The LES in 2003, with gentrification and poverty not coexisting.
3. “The Northern Clemency” by Philip Hensher – 1970s and 80s family saga, set in Thatcher’s Britain.
NONFICTION
1. “Liberty and Tyranny” by Mark Levin – Visited a friend in SC who kept talking about this book, “a conservative’s manifesto.” Saw it at McNally Jackson and decided to buy it.
2. “Physics of the Impossible” by Michio Kaku – A scientist explains force fields, invisibility, and time travel.
3. “Chess Master vs. Chess Amateur by Max Euwe and Walter Meiden – Supposedly the best way to learn chess as an intermediate player (like me) is to study games between players with very different rankings.
4. “Way of the Peaceful Warrior” by Dan Millman; “War of Art” by Steven Pressfield – I’m a sucker for anything that will make me feel more self-actualized.
Finally, if you only read one book this year, make it “Columbine” by Dave Cullen, the real story behind the massacre. Eric and Dylan wanted to create another Oklahoma City, and 95% of their plan that day failed. The massacre was a desultory attempt to just do something in the face of failure. It will leave you breathless, horrified, and fascinated. Best book I’ve read in years.
Posted by: infinitejester at July 9, 2009 10:15 AM
Dibs, how come you hate workers in this country, but love them when they run China?
Posted by: DeadCatBounce at July 9, 2009 10:13 AM
HUH??? I think unions are no longer necessary here and they have an egregious sense of entitlement as recently witnessed by the Stella D'Oro plant closing.
As far as workers here orr in China, I have no opinion on whether one froup is better than the other. They are apples and oranges.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 10:16 AM
Berkeley-Carroll School used a dumpster pool for years.
Posted by: Arkady at July 9, 2009 10:16 AM
no but seriously,
the Feast of the Giglio, honors an Italian Saint from the 5th century as well as The Madonna.
Posted by: Legion at July 9, 2009 10:18 AM
Arkady, thanks for the correction.
Posted by: dittoburg at July 9, 2009 10:18 AM
Have a great time, IJ. Age of Wonder by R. Holmes looks like a terrific book, too.
Posted by: Arkady at July 9, 2009 10:18 AM
There would be no Madonna had it not been for the beatles.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 10:19 AM
Have a great vacation jester!
Have heard good things about 'Liberty and Tyranny' but not got round to buying it yet.
'The Northern Clemency' sounds interesting as well (for me at least, given my origins).
Posted by: etson at July 9, 2009 10:20 AM
Dibs - There'd've been no Cats w/o T.S. Eliot.
Posted by: Arkady at July 9, 2009 10:20 AM
East New York I was all over that story! I told you to stock up on Popcorn and get a Lawn Chair this Fall is going to be Awesome!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
Posted by: Return of The What at July 9, 2009 10:22 AM
"Dibs - There'd've been no Cats w/o T.S. Eliot."
There'd've been no pussy without Adam's rib
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 10:23 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^
sorry, was that crass?
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 10:23 AM
Yeah Legion - I was kidding about the prostitute stuff.
Have you ever been? It's pretty good I suppose compared to other street festivals (San Genarro, blah)
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 10:23 AM
Biff - Chortle - yes - snicker.
Posted by: Arkady at July 9, 2009 10:24 AM
quote:
what if you're a moderate income single dude
basically youre screwed. nyc discriminates against the childless. you would need to get a sex change dipster, then make babies, then you can qualify for many things. it's quite unfair if you ask me and it just makes people have children they dont want nor take care of properly.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 9, 2009 10:24 AM
"I told you to stock up on Popcorn and get a Lawn Chair this Fall is going to be Awesome!"
I thought the Brooklyn Bridge Movies With a View Series started tonight with Raising Arizona.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 10:26 AM
As far as required reading is being mentioned;
a MUST read for all;
The Road
By Cormac McCarthy
the rightful heir to William Faulkner.
The scariest book you will read.
Especially if you have a child.
Not because of monsters and devils.
Because it is our ultimate fate.
It's about our end, and what's left over.
And yet, it is a love story.
Posted by: Legion at July 9, 2009 10:27 AM
You PLUSAs are putting me to shame. The only things I read on my recent vacation were the dinner and wine menus.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 10:29 AM
"basically youre screwed. nyc discriminates against the childless. you would need to get a sex change dipster, then make babies, then you can qualify for many things. it's quite unfair if you ask me and it just makes people have children they dont want nor take care of properly."
Whack - what if i have a baby mama?
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 10:31 AM
That sounds like an ideal reading list, Biff.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 10:32 AM
Oh, goodie! Books not baseball.
Posted by: Arkady at July 9, 2009 10:32 AM
didn't you read the trailer gas stove instructions?
Posted by: dittoburg at July 9, 2009 10:33 AM
Apparently he didn't, ditto. Didn't you hear about the accident??? It involved the stove and fireworks.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 10:37 AM
dh, that's be a good pickup line, I'll have to try it: "I need a baby mamma - interested?" while making the "Call me" gesture with thumb and forefinger.
Posted by: infinitejester at July 9, 2009 10:40 AM
ditto, that's my everyday life! I took a break from cooking during my vacation. No fried turkey or ambrosia last week.
And to combine the topics of the Brooklyn Bridge Movies With a View Series and ambrosia, Edward Scissorhands is playing on Thursday, August 27. There are also some great classic movies being featured, such as To Catch A Thief and The Maltese Falcon. And no, I am in no way affiliated with this film series.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 10:40 AM
Sorry to interrupt with something related to real estate, but there is a story I would like to share that doesn't fit on any of the non-OT threads.
I was in Kansas City, MO this past weekend visiting in-laws. One of in laws recently got terminated from a pretty well paying tech job on the West coast and moved back to KC to start investing in real estate. He has been buying $25,000 houses (I didn't miss any numbers - and that includes the cost of initial rehab) and renting them out for $850 a month. Carrying costs are maybe $150 a month. Once after another. Sometimes multi-unit properties with similar economics. All cash, but he could finance if he wanted to.
That's almost a 30% annual return with zero leverage.
By contrast, most property in prime Brooklyn is priced to generate a LOSS as an income property.
Lots of ways to read this, but I think the correct interpretation is that rental properties in Kansas City are substantially undervalued and property in Brooklyn is substantially overvalued as a result of a lingering expectation of appreciation (and thus a decoupling from value supported by income).
Posted by: lechacal at July 9, 2009 10:47 AM
haha jester - i'll have to try that haha.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 10:47 AM
Biff, you didn't have a cameo in "To Catch a Thief"? I thought I recall seeing you, wearing your white dinner jacket, at the roulette wheel near Grace Kelly.
Posted by: sam at July 9, 2009 10:47 AM
Lechacal--interesting. Hard, with the shifting rental market as well, to determine what the price point is for a brooklyn property to be economically sound as a rental property.
Posted by: wasder at July 9, 2009 10:51 AM
kansas city is a cesspool lethecal. but then again so it most of brooklyn, so you have a point.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 9, 2009 10:57 AM
lechacal....what's the restaurant scene like now in KC???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 10:58 AM
rob, note that even with economics this compelling there is zero chance of my moving out there to take advantage of them.
Posted by: lechacal at July 9, 2009 10:58 AM
Dave, that was definite RE porn.
Biff, care to tell us where was the location of your vaca? seen anything interesting?
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 9, 2009 11:00 AM
lechacal, spmeone I know has been doing the same in upstate NY by Canada. There is a huge army base there so the rentals are pretty much guaranteed and most are footed by the government. The only problem is actually shlepping there from NYC if some problem occurs in one of the rentals cause if you hire a management company, they're screw you lovely if you're not around to witness the problems with your rentals.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 9, 2009 11:02 AM
Kens...the best way to do that in a smaller town is to partner up with a contractor. In many of these depressed areas they are starving for work.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 11:04 AM
DIBS: Well, there's Applebey's, TGIF, Chuck-E-Cheese, Outback Steakhouse, the Cheesecake Factory -- and of course some all-you-can-eat buffet places, which are popular with the fatties.
There is of course good bbq, but I can only handle so much of that before desperately looking around for something resebling a vegetable.
And there is the American, sort of a classic place downtown, but that place makes me sad because it is so underappreciated by the locals who would rather go eat in a strip mall in Johnson County.
Posted by: lechacal at July 9, 2009 11:05 AM
OH well. :(
I thought Lydia Bastianich (Felidia Restaurant) had a place there.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 11:06 AM
sam, if only I was so suave and debonair!
Kens, I sailed up to the Maritime Provinces in Atlantic Canada. Saw Peggy's Cove, amongst other beautiful places. Friendliest people in the world.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 11:10 AM
Lechacal, 30% on cashflow is juicy. Juicy enough for me to look into it.
Posted by: more4less at July 9, 2009 11:10 AM
" Applebey's, TGIF, Chuck-E-Cheese, Outback Steakhouse, the Cheesecake Factory "
Thees are processed-foods distributors, not restaurants.
Posted by: dittoburg at July 9, 2009 11:10 AM
Cheesecake Factory makes a subpar Gin Rickey
and their cheesecake is "deeply chilled" according to the server - aka frozen.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 11:12 AM
Perhaps, but that would interfere with my ability to make snyde remarks about the culinary habits of the SUV driving fatties who pack themselves and their fat little kids into all-you-can eat buffets consisting of corn syrup and starch disguised in 30 different ways. I sometimes like to play over/under on whether the aggregate weight of the family that just walked in the door hits one ton.
There are actually a couple of good places. 40 Sardines, if it still open, is quite good. A couple other place come to mind but I forget their names.
Posted by: lechacal at July 9, 2009 11:12 AM
Oscar G. Mayer died at age 95.
A moment of silence while we watch the 1965 weiner song commercial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNddW2xmZp8
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 9, 2009 11:13 AM
Biff, was your wife with you when you were exploring Peggy's Cove??
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 11:13 AM
m4l - you would have to live there. Don't fall into the trap of thinking you can get the same economics as an absent investor. That field is littered with bodies.
Posted by: lechacal at July 9, 2009 11:13 AM
Is there a Chinatown in KC????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 11:15 AM
THL, Randi announced that last night in the OT. Is Mason Reese going to be a pallbearer.
DIBS, Peggy's Cove was gorgeous and very scenic. Everything smelled so fresh. Navigating my craft around there was a bit difficult as the passageway was narrower than I anticipated.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 11:17 AM
Lechacal, OK - scratch KC off so Philly remains the only one on my list
Posted by: more4less at July 9, 2009 11:17 AM
There are all-you-can-eat Chinese buffets that act as caloric conveyor belts. No Chinatown.
Posted by: lechacal at July 9, 2009 11:18 AM
was your wife with you when you were exploring Peggy's Cove??
Biff: Don't assk, don't tell.
Posted by: sam at July 9, 2009 11:20 AM
I'm suprised it smelled so fresh. It was definitely fishy last time I berthed there.
Posted by: dittoburg at July 9, 2009 11:22 AM
Just heard that the purloined Statue of Liberty has surfaced in an internet video - it shows her blindfolded & then decapitated.
Posted by: Arkady at July 9, 2009 11:22 AM
I hear that it's not all that it's cracked up to be.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 11:23 AM
What are you implying, Arkady, a terrorist attack??
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 11:24 AM
That's what the radio said - FBI are investigating it as such.
Posted by: Arkady at July 9, 2009 11:26 AM
"Just heard that the purloined Statue of Liberty has surfaced in an internet video - it shows her blindfolded & then decapitated."
Yeah Arkady - So stupid. Reeked of a crappy art school video
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 11:26 AM
Dave, the person actually did just that. Found a retired builder there who pretty much has nothing to do all day since kids are grown and he's retired so he looks after his properties. He was referred to from a friend of his who was doing a lot of investing and development in the area so that worked out. I just heard other horror stories about investing in places you're not too familiar with and places where you don't actually live in the area.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 9, 2009 11:28 AM
Biff, never heard of it. Is that by where you grew up? Had a good time overall?
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 9, 2009 11:29 AM
Yes, Kens, agree with those horror stories being the norm.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 11:30 AM
The Statue of Liberty thing seemed like a publicity stunt.
Posted by: etson at July 9, 2009 11:30 AM
Here it is...IT"S THE VOX POP STATUE THAT WAS STOLEN!!!!!!!
http://tinyurl.com/lgstgj
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 11:32 AM
Can someone tell me what that mark is on the woman's chest in the American Apparel ad? It looks like a scar from a liver transplant. What is that?
Posted by: sam at July 9, 2009 11:33 AM
has anyone been using bing? i just read this article about it in the times and now i'm trying to think of things i can look up to see if it's all david pogue claims it to be..
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/09/technology/personaltech/09pogue.html?em
ps this is a work friendly link this time.
Posted by: bodhi_brooklyn at July 9, 2009 11:37 AM
sam. I am not seeing the AA ads anymore with those chicks. Do you think the site has some gadar targetting software that doesn't target me with that ad????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 11:38 AM
DIBS, you're correct, it was the statue of liberty from Vox Pop. I am on their emailing list and got the email this morning about that. It sucks, that statue was awesome right in front of the store.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 9, 2009 11:41 AM
My AA ad gets replaced by the Forte one sometimes.
Eeesh Forte.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 11:43 AM
sam - it's a poorly air-brushed bra line.
Posted by: Arkady at July 9, 2009 11:44 AM
Biff...get over to the thread on the Basil thief.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 11:45 AM
a poorly air-brushed bra line? It is the only thing I see now in that ad.
Posted by: sam at July 9, 2009 11:48 AM
Trouble brewing on the mortgage thread too.
Posted by: Arkady at July 9, 2009 11:50 AM
"Biff, never heard of it. Is that by where you grew up? Had a good time overall?"
Nope, not from there. Had a great time, thanks.
Here's are some images from Google of it
http://tinyurl.com/o493xp
It is famous for it's beauty and infamous for being very close to the site of the Swissair Flight 111 plane crash in 1998 in which all 229 passengers and crew of were killed.
Peggy's Cove is near Halifax, Nova Scotia, from where the first responders to the Titanic sinking came. Some of the passengers who died are buried there. During 9/11, Halifax and other communities in Atlantic Canada hosted 21,000 passengers after air traffic was shut down over the United States in the wake of the attacks. Lastly, Ellen Page, of Juno fame, is from Halifax.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 11:50 AM
bhodi, I tried Bing just yesterday. I gave it three different searches. All crap results compared to Google. I don't know what Pogue is talking about. I won't be using it.
Posted by: dittoburg at July 9, 2009 11:52 AM
Thanks DIBS and Arkady, I'm heading over (I love having blog monitors!)
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 11:52 AM
ditto b - i'm curious to hear what ppl think of bing, since i tend to be something of a luddite. anything new can scare me.
and speaking of being scared..even though everyone thinks the be-headed statue of liberty is stupid, it kinda freaks me out..! i can't see any of the youtube videos since they are blocked from work. but i'm definitely the target audience for a scare tactic video since i'm a giant chicken.
Posted by: bodhi_brooklyn at July 9, 2009 12:06 PM
bodhi, this link might work for you.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07082009/news/regionalnews/brooklyn/stolen_statue_of_liberty_beheaded_in_sho_178244.htm
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 9, 2009 12:11 PM
Ok, PLUSAs, I have a friend who is coming to NYC with his 11 year old son just for one day and is looking for super cool things that his son would enjoy. My friend has been here a million times so he only cares about what his son wants to do. I suggested Top of the Rock (I think one has to do something like this the first time here and Empire State Building wait is just too brutal on a weekend) and The Sony Wonder Lab (apparently the kid is obsessed with video games).
Any other suggestions?
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 12:15 PM
thanks ken. just watched it. that was weird.
what kind of terrorist that takes themselves seriously makes a video game reference at the end (with the font and the sounds)? and uses a hand held circular saw? huh?
Posted by: bodhi_brooklyn at July 9, 2009 12:20 PM
"Any other suggestions?"
I've always liked the Wax Museum in Times Square
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 12:23 PM
Biff -- Letterman show? very close to rockefeller center. maybe too young for that, I don't know.
Posted by: joe_the_bummer at July 9, 2009 12:25 PM
Biff, is the kid a baseball fan? Take him to see the new stadiums.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 9, 2009 12:26 PM
The statue of liberty crown is open now too.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 12:27 PM
Thanks Snappy, DH and Joe. Since they'll have limited time, I think a baseball game and museum might not work. I also thought about:
Nintendo store in Rock Center
Central Park
NBC / NHL / NBA Stores
NBC Studio
The Beast
I guess I should also check GoKids NYC
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 12:30 PM
11 yr old is tricky age for suggestions. is that apple store near fao schwartz any diff / better than the normal apple stores? if yes, maybe he might like that
Posted by: more4less at July 9, 2009 12:30 PM
What's that Jekyl & Hyde place like on 6th Avenue??? Is that for kids???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 12:32 PM
You could go play laser tag for an hour in times square then do lunch at the ESPN Zone.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 9, 2009 12:33 PM
Thanks M4L. Anything that is all around that location is a good suggestion for them, given the lack of time.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 12:33 PM
DIBS, I once went to that place and wasn't impressed.
Snappy, awesome idea!
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 12:40 PM
11 year old?
1) dinosaurs at the American Museum of Natural History
2) Hayden planatarium
3) Apple Store on 59th St.
4) Hot dog lunch in the model boat pool in CP
done!
Posted by: sam at July 9, 2009 12:43 PM
Thanks sam, I'll add those to the list of suggestions
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 12:46 PM
Oh, fogot to drop in on the CP zoo (to see the polar bears and penguins) on the way to the model boat pool.
And make that have lunch at the pool not in the pool.
Posted by: sam at July 9, 2009 12:47 PM
Sam, most 11 yr olds now dont like Dinosaurs or Planetary stuff in museums - think a lot of that has to do with them get hands on computer and video game consoles so early on. When I visited recently sister in-law & family, was super surprised the young kids both have the apple itouch (on top of latest sony playstation, nintendo DS,.......).
Posted by: more4less at July 9, 2009 12:49 PM
Biff: if he is obsessed with video games, take him to the Nintendo World Store (think it's near rockefeller center) it's great :) you can play games in there and they have tons of video game merchandising and stuff. they sometimes have events there and stuff :) the last i event i went to tho, i went alone, and i felt like a giant pedophile :-/ and i think parents were giving me the stink eye lol
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 9, 2009 12:50 PM
By the way Biff, if you do wind up doing my laser tag and lunch idea, I expect to be invited :) :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 9, 2009 12:50 PM
it's kinda touristy biff, but a lot of fun, and they have an arcade inside and the whole place is decorated like out space.. mars 2012 or something like that. somewhere in midtown, also Madama toussad's wax museum would be fun!!!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 9, 2009 12:54 PM
I didn't know Hayden Panettiere was a new York attraction.
Posted by: dittoburg at July 9, 2009 12:54 PM
dibs, the economic situation in Asia is apples and oranges to what's been going on in the U.S. Unemployment rate in Hong Kong never got above 4.7 percent. We are big savers of money, and there was no toxic mortgage waste. "Recovery" here is faster because we didn't fall that far.
As for mainland China, well their economy is controlled by the central government. They can massage their economic figures any which way they want, and manipulate their currency, and suppress information that is unfavorable to investment. There's no rule of law, really, and everyone knows the state banks are a mess. So it is very difficult to know what is really going on there.
Keeping tabs on the amount of gold and property that mainlanders buy in HK is one way to tell how the Chinese economy is going :)
Posted by: WonTon at July 9, 2009 12:59 PM
HOLA FROM ESPANA!!!!! She said YES if anyone was paying attention last week. Got to run... duty calls. I can´t wait to get back but it´s been nice. Talk to everyone next week.
Posted by: Adam Dahill at July 9, 2009 1:01 PM
the economic situation in Asia is apples and oranges to what's been going on in the U.S. Unemployment rate in Hong Kong never got above 4.7 percent.
Exactly my point. And because of that the cross trade dynamics have changed quite a bit over the last 10 years with US, J and EU trading partners all topsy turvy and Asia now the biggest consumer.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 1:01 PM
congrats Adam
Posted by: dittoburg at July 9, 2009 1:02 PM
Snappy, I'm not going to do any of those things. I try to stay away from touristy places as much as possible, unless it's Ellis Island (although the waits to get the ferry are now unbearable - I would suggest getting advanced tickets that allow you to move to the front of the line).
Rob, I added that one. Sounds perfect for the kid. Also added Mme. Toussaud (sp?)
"Sam, most 11 yr olds now dont like Dinosaurs or Planetary stuff in museums - "
M4L, exactly, which is why I will resist as much as possible in allowing my kids to have video games. Fortunately, they have an incredible interest in museums, and are obsessed with the NY Hall of Science. They spent 6 hours at the Brooklyn Museum yesterday with Mrs. C and protested greatly when she said it was time to leave!
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 1:02 PM
Adam Dahill - congratulations!!!!
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at July 9, 2009 1:03 PM
WonTon, I'm sure that if the Chinese massage their economy there will be a happy ending
Posted by: dittoburg at July 9, 2009 1:04 PM
The whole idea of coming to New York is to get away from the video screen for a few hours. 11 year olds don't know what they want to do. Once you take them to look at the dinosaurs and the giant planets they'll get into it.
Posted by: sam at July 9, 2009 1:04 PM
Biff, would you make your kids do a coin flip as to who would sleep in the inner vs. outer bedrm on that lincoln unit? Am assuming the inner bedrm is the more preferred one since it's more private
Posted by: more4less at July 9, 2009 1:04 PM
Bueno, Adam!
Posted by: Arkady at July 9, 2009 1:05 PM
Chinese are massaging now. Happy ending for them, maybe, but not for us.
Have you ever had a Chinese massage (tui na). It hurts like hell.
Posted by: WonTon at July 9, 2009 1:06 PM
I did have a tui na, but it hurt after not during.
Posted by: dittoburg at July 9, 2009 1:08 PM
"WonTon, I'm sure that if the Chinese massage their economy there will be a happy ending"
- Ditto, who gives a shiatsu what you think? :-)
Adam, congrats!!
sam, I totally agree it is f'ed up, but it is what my friend and his son want. Personally, I would never hit some of those places with my kids. My friend and his son also hate museums (go figure).
M4L, the apartment I linked isn't for me. I'm not in the market and it's too small. I just thought it seemed like a good deal, even though the sf isn't listed.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 1:08 PM
If I have two Asian masseuses, one on each end of me, is that a tui na sandwich?
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 1:09 PM
Had some tacos yesterday afternoon at yesterday's ROTD - outstanding!
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at July 9, 2009 1:10 PM
Biff, yes, but what if its two dressed russians rueben your back?
Posted by: dittoburg at July 9, 2009 1:12 PM
LOL, Won Ton, my Chinese bf is a professional accupuncturist & accupressurist and gives me tui na. Never had anything like that before. Incredible.
Don't ask what I give him.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 1:13 PM
Don't ask what I give him.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 1:13 PM
Head...
The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
Posted by: Return of The What at July 9, 2009 1:22 PM
DIBS, you give him aggrevation in exchange
Posted by: more4less at July 9, 2009 1:22 PM
"Won Ton, my Chinese bf is a professional accupuncturist"
DIBS, does it hurt when he pricks you?
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 1:23 PM
Don't ask what I give him.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 1:13 PM
Head...
The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
Posted by: Return of The What at July 9, 2009 1:22 PM
DING, DING, DING, DING, DING. What finally gets something right. But he thought he was making a joke and instead appears clueless.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 1:34 PM
Adam - que buenas noticias! Felicidades, y que lo pases bien en Espana.
Posted by: lechacal at July 9, 2009 1:35 PM
Adam - Mazal Tov
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 9, 2009 1:45 PM
DIBS, even worse, the witless What thought he was being witty.
Posted by: dittoburg at July 9, 2009 1:48 PM
DUH! I meant Mazl Tov.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 9, 2009 1:49 PM
DUH! I meant Mazl Tov.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 9, 2009 1:49 PM
Schlemiel, schlamazel, what's the difference???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 1:50 PM
Kens, you sure you didn't mean Mazel Tov?
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 1:53 PM
Hola from Espana?? tsk tsk...where's Gwyneth Paltrow with her nice Castilian accent to correctly say: Saludos de Espana.
Posted by: sam at July 9, 2009 1:54 PM
DIBS, did you guys move office yet?
Posted by: more4less at July 9, 2009 1:57 PM
No, m4l, next Friday. We are "teaming up" with a nice sized family office with whom we have had a relationship in one form of another for almost 30 years.
We'll be on 55th bet Madison & Park.
We're also launching an Asian L/S Fund if you know anybody who wants in.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 2:03 PM
Hiya Jackasses! Be careful of Hedge Funds especially if the "Head Day Trader' lives in the Ghetto!
Lookie Here!!
Cerberus Won't Let Investors Out of Hedge Fund: Report
http://www.cnbc.com/id/31831437
Cerberus Capital Management is still declining to let investors out of its main hedge fund, according to the Wall Street Journal.
Wait a minute! Was Cerberus was the biggest Hedge Fund around?
The letter cites weak market conditions that are still preventing Cerberus from giving clients their money back. Cerberus also says significant macro risks may affect future results. The letter also notes that the firm has had difficulty selling existing positions.
Cerberus says it has created a special vehicle to let some investors cash out over time.
In December of last year, Cerberus suspended withdrawal requests, joining a group of hedge funds that had halted redemptions. Feinberg also said in the letter that Cerberus plans on avoiding headline-grabbing deals like its ill-fated investments in automaker Chrysler and lender GMAC.
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 9, 2009 2:05 PM
pretty sure it's Mazl Tov officially. In Hebrew there is no vowel in between Z and L.
If you spell by pronunciation its MazEl Tov.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 9, 2009 2:05 PM
All the best, Adam! We want details (ok, well Not every detail) :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at July 9, 2009 2:05 PM
Well done Adam. Congrats!
Posted by: wasder at July 9, 2009 2:07 PM
Oh no, kens! I'll have to throw out every Hebraic congratulatory card I've ever been sent!
Posted by: bxgrl at July 9, 2009 2:09 PM
herbic card? is this the basil thread ro the OT
Posted by: dittoburg at July 9, 2009 2:14 PM
DIBS, whats the minimum investment?
Posted by: dittoburg at July 9, 2009 2:15 PM
Back from Al Fresco wine lunch - might be too drunk to be at work right now - luckily all the bosses are in Europe.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 2:18 PM
Don't do that yet bxgrl. I think it's accepted as Mazel Tov in english but I am pretty sure in Hebrew and/or Yiddish its spelled more like Mazl Tov. I can reconfirm that.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 9, 2009 2:19 PM
"I am pretty sure in Hebrew and/or Yiddish its spelled more like Mazl Tov"
Does that mean I'm Jwish and not really Jewish?
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 2:21 PM
rob - wanna go to sycamore to check out fag night tonight? maybe we can find you a nice ditmas park boy to date? also an interesting band playing downstairs
dibs - does the chinese bf do acupuncture housecalls? insurance?
kens - how many people are meeting up next week? won't barrio chino be too crowded? if it's a large group i'd suggest grand sichuan on 7th ave south. the best one of all the grand sichuans in the city. granted it's not the same loud/drunken/great mexican food vibe of BC...
Posted by: winthropst at July 9, 2009 2:22 PM
Ok Bxgrl. I confirmed. In Hebrew the pronunciation is MazAl Tov, in Yiddish MazEl Tov and both are acceptable in English Spelling translation but in both Hebrew and Yiddish there is no vowels in the word so technically Mzl Tov.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 9, 2009 2:23 PM
Lechacal, that's very interesting. But who is renting these places for $850 a month when they could be paying $150 to own?
Posted by: mopar at July 9, 2009 2:26 PM
No housecalls, except me. He works in a place in Chinatown in Manhattan.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 2:26 PM
Don't ask what I give him.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 1:13 PM
Money.
More important than love, in my part of the world!
Posted by: WonTon at July 9, 2009 2:27 PM
I was going to suggest Grand Sichuan too. But the one at 54th and 2nd is MILES better. And they have a liquor license. Uh oh restaurant fight.
Posted by: mopar at July 9, 2009 2:27 PM
"in both Hebrew and Yiddish there is no vowels"
That ought to make playing Wheel of Fortune a lot easier for you guys!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 2:27 PM
Cngrtltns!
Posted by: Arkady at July 9, 2009 2:28 PM
Attention Brownstoners: Manhattan Restaurant Week is approaching. Get your revervations while they last!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 2:29 PM
thanks for that dave. anyone know any good acupuncturists near PLG? or anyone who will do housecalls? i'm going to check out third root in ditmas park.
Posted by: winthropst at July 9, 2009 2:29 PM
Damn, I would go to the gay night in Sycamore. Should be fun and if there are girls, less competition for me. I have a dinner with friends tonight though and bootie call later on, shoot! What time are you planning on going? Rob?
Re: next week, so far 6 confirmed (including you). If it ends up being more, DH said he has a perfect back-up place in the area to replace Barrio Chino.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 9, 2009 2:29 PM
I think I may have rattled a few cages with my last post in the Car Crash thread!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 2:32 PM
"Re: next week, so far 6 confirmed (including you). If it ends up being more, DH said he has a perfect back-up place in the area to replace Barrio Chino."
Honestly not sure if Barrio Chino is worth it for a big group - too small and loud.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 2:33 PM
The Ebn Ozn song "A-e-i-o-u And Sometimes Y" must be very boring in Hebrew.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 2:34 PM
"DIBS, whats the minimum investment?"
*****CRICKETS***********
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 9, 2009 2:34 PM
"lechacal....what's the restaurant scene like now in KC???"
FYI, I was in KC a few months ago and tried Jack Stack in the freighthouse district. They are a few locations, but this one has the best atmosphere and specializes in BBQ.
The locals told me that the other fantastic place is Oklahoma Joes, which is inside of a gas station. It is "wonderful, authentic, very popular."
http://www.oklahomajoesbbq.com/
Posted by: East New York at July 9, 2009 2:35 PM
Kens, take it from me, when it comes to gatherings, bigger is definitely better. Space is usually the biggest issue. I think you should consider moving to another venue unless you know the numbers won't be large.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 2:36 PM
kens - i'll probably go around 9 to catch the band downstairs - they're supposed to start around 9:30. i know a straight guy who goes to gay bars with us - he always has great luck meeting up with women that way. speaking of bootie call - i never heard back about the other brasileira i told you about
mopar - i don't drink but i'm sure the grand sichuan on 7th ave south serves alcohol now. i was there 2 weekends ago and i though i saw beer bottles. a taiwanese friend always orders for the whole table whenever we're at any chinese restaurant - he knows how to decipher those menus. so we've had amazing meals there. i'll check out the location you like with him and the gaysian posse.
Posted by: winthropst at July 9, 2009 2:38 PM
You should meet at a REAL Chinese restaurant.
Posted by: WonTon at July 9, 2009 2:38 PM
wonton - suggest one. my favorite is a taiwanese place in flushing but you have to take a minibus from nyc chinatown since it's nowhere near the train. i don't think that will work for a group meet on a weeknight. and have you been to the grand sichuan on 7th ave south to say it's not real? are all my chinese friends who love this place delusional then?
Posted by: winthropst at July 9, 2009 2:43 PM
ditto...probably a couple hundred thousand.
m4l, I pay others but the Chinese bf and I are a different relationship.
Won Ton...Grand Szechuan ois probably better than 80-90% of the Chinese places here in manhattan, maybe not in Flushing, but probably better than any in brooklyn.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 2:44 PM
Biff, I just originally wanted to check out Barrio Chino since it should be very good food but a few people want to go so it's obviously opened to all PLUSAs. If it ends up like 6 people, we can go there, if more respond by Monday, we can pick a bigger place. We can move it to a Russki place in Midwood if everyone is up for that but I have to call them ahead of time to get a table big enough and load up on Booze since they are all BYOB.
winthropst, Thanks regardless, I appreciate it. I'll be occupied by that time so maybe next time. Sycamore is practically around the corner from me.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 9, 2009 2:48 PM
Have only been to the GS on the far west side. It was okay, not great.
The big problem with Sichuan food is getting the right ingredients, and getting fresh ones. (my main criticism of GS on the West Side).
There's much better Sichuan food--almost as good as I have eaten in Chengdu--in this basement arcade in Flushing on Main Street. Don't know the exact address but I think it is called "Golden Mall".
For a big dinner (10-12 people) I'd recommend this Fukienese place on East Broadway called Fu Leen. They don't mind if you bring your own wine/liquor. (not beer) Make sure you order the giant crab.
Posted by: WonTon at July 9, 2009 2:50 PM
Kens, sounds good. Just let me know the time and place and, in the words of MJ, I'll be there.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 2:51 PM
"Kens, take it from me, when it comes to gatherings, bigger is definitely better. Space is usually the biggest issue. I think you should consider moving to another venue unless you know the numbers won't be large."
Ya - bigger space would be ideal if anyone doesn't wanna commit but might randomly drop by.
Barrio Chino has one communal picnic table - a few two tops and a 10 person bar. Chances are slim we'll all get bar seats, and if we aren't eating at the communal table they'll wanna turn it over.
No standing room.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 2:52 PM
DH, what was your other suggestion that was bigger?
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 9, 2009 2:56 PM
Kens, if you're doing dinner, I would suggest reserving for the exact number of people who have confirmed to you. If anyone randomly drops by, you can try to squeeze them in but they should understand they can't be guaranteed a seat. After dinner, if you need more room to accomodate droppers in, you can all move to a venue that offers more space to just have drinks.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 2:56 PM
Biff, I couldn't find any joke in that last post of yours.
Posted by: dittoburg at July 9, 2009 2:57 PM
thnk gdnss, Kns! :-) I ws s wrrd.
Posted by: bxgrl at July 9, 2009 2:59 PM
DIBS, get your chinaman straight (re-write if BRG was here). It was Wonton who said you give money. I said you give aggrevation.
Posted by: more4less at July 9, 2009 2:59 PM
dave - i go to 3 of the grand sichuans regularly - 24th st, st. marks and 7th ave south. gotta say that they are all different even though they have the same owner. the chefs at 7th ave south are my favorite. and if you haven't been - another lure is the quality of eye-candy there for you. customers and workers.
mopar - i looked up your suggestion and realize it's not part of the same chain. slight variation in name. is phoenix garden still open around there? how's it doing these days?
Posted by: winthropst at July 9, 2009 2:59 PM
I second Wonton on Fu Leen.
Posted by: more4less at July 9, 2009 3:01 PM
"DH, what was your other suggestion that was bigger?"
If we're doing Manhattan - there's a place that just opened (by a friend of a friend) on Elizabeth btw Houston and Prince called "Jo's"
http://www.josnyc.com/
Bistro food with good cocktails and a wine/beer happy hour (7 dollar wine/4 dollar beer)
I could understand if people would rather do a centrally located brooklyn joint though.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 3:01 PM
btw, Fu Leen is on Division St. parallel st to East B'way and opposite Confucius plaza
Posted by: more4less at July 9, 2009 3:03 PM
wonton - thanks for the tip on the flushing and e.bway places. i will make sure to try them. i agree with you on the 24th st GS. if you're ever in the west village give the 7th ave south location a try.
Posted by: winthropst at July 9, 2009 3:04 PM
Re: above - the fois gras french toast is poppin
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 3:05 PM
ditto, not sure how that one slipped through. I'll have to be more vigilant in screening to ensure my posts meet the minimum standards for corniness.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 9, 2009 3:05 PM
DIBS, get your chinaman straight (re-write if BRG was here). It was Wonton who said you give money. I said you give aggrevation.
Posted by: more4less at July 9, 2009 2:59 PM
Sorry, you guys all sound alike on here. :) And now my mind has started to wander with all the talk about Fukienese
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 3:08 PM
DIBS, how often do you get down on your fukienese?
Posted by: dittoburg at July 9, 2009 3:13 PM
dh - i used to live across the street from 264 elizabeth st where jo's is located. 18 years ago. i think it was apartment #6 out of 20 plus i've had here. sigh.
Posted by: winthropst at July 9, 2009 3:16 PM
Sometimes he's mandarin me. Depends upon how we're oriented.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 3:17 PM
But ditto, and this is not meant to be a slight towards anyone, nothing beats a hot Mexican burrito.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 3:18 PM
"dh - i used to live across the street from 264 elizabeth st where jo's is located. 18 years ago. i think it was apartment #6 out of 20 plus i've had here. sigh."
Nice winthrop - thanks btw for the couch heads up you relayed to me through Kens.
When did you live on Elizabeth? I know the restaruant 'the tasting room' was in 264 elizabeth for a while.
it's amazing how fast 'nolita' has transformed, pushing out all the chinatown/little italy stuff.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 3:21 PM
dave - have you ever met a brasilian-japanese? or brasilian-korean? not mixed. but just born and raised in sao paolo. damn.
Posted by: winthropst at July 9, 2009 3:23 PM
dh - i lived on elizabeth st in 1991. in that monstrosity called the "empire condo". aging hipster here.
Posted by: winthropst at July 9, 2009 3:26 PM
oh very cool winthrop - elizabeth is a great st, can't imagine what it was like down there in '91
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 3:30 PM
yes, winthropst. I have a mixed Ecuadorian/japanese friend....banzai chihuahua!!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 3:31 PM
hey winthopst, thanks for the offer, cant tonight unfortunately. what is sycamore? where is it, ive not heard of it i dont think. isnt sycamore the name jerry blank changed her name to when she joined the cult on strangers with candy? but yeah count me in for the thing next week
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 9, 2009 3:36 PM
dh - it was pretty quiet back then. still very italian-american. neighbors saying "hello" to each other on the street. bella's luncheonette, kitchen club, connecticut muffin, la poeme (if you know agathe snow this was her mom's place and she was waitressing there after school when she was 12 or so.)
Posted by: winthropst at July 9, 2009 3:41 PM
Hiya Jackasses! I'm starting my own Hedge Fund! Hell if a Jackoff in Bed Stuy with a E-Trade account can do it, why not me??!!!
Blowmynuts Hedge Fund LLC...
Guess what? No Redemptions! GTFOOH!
The What (Dave sucks off Cats)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 9, 2009 3:43 PM
Winthropist you bring back memories...I used to live on Mulberry, then Centre Market, right by the hanging gun sign!
Posted by: bridges at July 9, 2009 3:44 PM
Awesome winthrop/bridges - would have loved to lived there back when it was a neigborhood. I lived on Mott in 2002 and it's even changed alot since then.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 3:48 PM
Hey what, I asked you a question in the Mortgage thread. You ever going to answer us or just pretend you have all the answers and we're supposed to accept them.
What's your fee structure at your Numbnuts Fund LLC????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 3:50 PM
Need to clear up some points:
*I have been to all the Grand Sichuans in Manhattan. The one on 2nd Ave. and 54th St. is the real deal. They have sichuan peppercorns and cook dry style. About half the patrons are Chinese, and I often see tables of Chinese men with suitcases as if they're on their way to the airport, suggesting to me this is a very beloved restaurant.
*You all enjoy your visit to Barrio Chino. It's a great restaurant. I will never go there with more than one other person or after 6:45.
*The Grand Sichuan on 7th Ave. does NOT serve alcohol. The beer you see is BYOB from across the street. I am not meeting any Brownstoners at a restaurant that does not serve alcohol.
*I really want to try that mall in Flushing. I have been to another highly regarded Sichuan restaurant in Flushing. It was not as good as the Grand Sichuan on 2nd Ave. and 54th St.
Posted by: mopar at July 9, 2009 3:52 PM
dave - does the ecuadorian/japanese live in nyc? or sf? : )
rob - sycamore is a trendy bar/flowershop in ditmas park. the crowd isn't super annoying for now (granted i haven't gone on a weekend evening yet.) they sell flowers up to a certain time at night, have a nice outdoor deck in the back and a performance space downstairs. fag night is 2nd thursday of each month.
dh - nolita is still a neighborhood. but with an alienating experience for someone like me who experienced a very different vibe not too long ago. when i moved in the neighbors weren't welcoming at first since i was a sign of changes ahead.
Posted by: winthropst at July 9, 2009 3:55 PM
mopar...I will be at Sara's Vagina sometime around 8:00. Some people are coming around 6:45 to pick up my aquarium. I'll try and get there earlier. Otherwise, have fun.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 3:55 PM
Nolita is kind of going backwards now. Lots of empty storefronts. Most of it not very interesting any more.
Posted by: mopar at July 9, 2009 3:57 PM
DIBS - its What, a three-legged cat, and Mr. Potato Head missing one arm and wearing lipstick.
Posted by: dittoburg at July 9, 2009 3:57 PM
He's in Queens. He's a real hot potato. Scares some people b/c he looks like a thug!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 3:57 PM
Dave, we're going at 7:30. Come over and say hi!
Posted by: mopar at July 9, 2009 3:57 PM
Yeah, I bet winthrop. You can still see some of the old timers walking around the nabe. I was talking to a guy who has been living in the neighborhood for 50 years while i was having lunch on Prince the other day and he was telling me stories of the 'good ol days' - really interesting.
despite being boutiquified, i think nolita is still my fav neighborhood in manhattan. very low key/relaxing ( during the weekdays at least).
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 4:03 PM
quote:
fag night is 2nd thursday of each month.
wow they only give us one stinkin' night a month!? how menstrual is that!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 9, 2009 4:03 PM
mopar - GS on 7th ave south serves alcohol now. i called to make sure i wasn't daydreaming when i saw bottles 2 weekends ago. also, when they didn't have their liquor license my friends always went to that place across the street you mention that has a great beer selection or from the liquor store on carmine/bedford. definitely saved $ome with that.
Posted by: winthropst at July 9, 2009 4:05 PM
"Nolita is kind of going backwards now. Lots of empty storefronts. Most of it not very interesting any more."
Definitely - I've brought up Nolita in other threads re: retail rents in Brooklyn. Boutiques and restaurants are getting hammered. Lots are moving to Williamsburg.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 4:05 PM
dh/wintropist - Recently I turned up Centre Market, of course it looks nothing like it did almost 20 years ago! I lived there around the time of the gotti trials. It was quite colorful. Especially for a mix like me ;)
I'm not sad about the changes though I realize more and more that in my mind NY is a different city than newbies experience. Newbies see what's right in front of them, I see the changes ;) Winthropist remember the chicken coop on on grand street and centre?
Posted by: bridges at July 9, 2009 4:10 PM
Thanks, Winthropist. Good to know!
Posted by: mopar at July 9, 2009 4:13 PM
Yeah, DH, they are moving to Williamsburg. And apparently getting hammered there too, as you and I have previously discussed. Though I really hope they do well.
Posted by: mopar at July 9, 2009 4:14 PM
Mopar, you convinced me. I'm going to check out the GS at 54th. it's a short walk from work.
Posted by: more4less at July 9, 2009 4:15 PM
im not a fan of nolita at all. there is this one lady who always sits outside with a bunch of other old school ladies in lawn chairs always bragging that her rent is 155 dollars a month. i wanna be her grandson and move in when she dies.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 9, 2009 4:18 PM
dave - you gotta play yenta for me
rob - if fag night at sycamore is popular enough maybe they'll give it more play on the schedule? at least ditmas park is fairly progressive. there's a yoga center that has twice weekly classes for queer & transgender yogis. anyone want to to to that? : )
bridges - i'm trying to remember a chicken coop. all i can remember from that time/area is o'nieals and mare chiaro when it used to be good - my favorite bartender there was this big old chinese-american brute who grew up in brooklyn and had the biggest vinnie accent. hot.
Posted by: winthropst at July 9, 2009 4:19 PM
m4l...i eat there all the time, or at least used to. it's very, very good. If you want good Shanghainese, in a nice place too, go to Our Place Shanghai Tea Garden on the north side of 55th bet Lex & 3rd......very good soup dumplings.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 4:20 PM
rob 4.03 - good comparison
Posted by: dittoburg at July 9, 2009 4:21 PM
winthropst, you're supposed to be into white guys. I'm not introducing you to all my other flavors!!!! :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 4:21 PM
my favorite bartender there was this big old chinese-american brute who grew up in brooklyn and had the biggest vinnie accent. hot.
Posted by: winthropst at July 9, 2009 4:19 PM
LOl. Sounds hawt! The chicken coop was on the corner, you'd go in, chinese guy behind the counter (relevant only because technically it was still little italy)and floor to ceiling caged chickens. Always old ladies on line. They'd point to a chicken and that was it: dinner.
Posted by: bridges at July 9, 2009 4:22 PM
Yeah Mopar - it's a really tough spot for these little interesting boutique owners.
The only shopping bags I've been seeing around downtown lately is 'Topshop' blech.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 4:22 PM
I just noticed that if not for mopar popping up here, the usual cast of ladies have been MIA today and we have not dominated the board with sports like yesterday
Posted by: more4less at July 9, 2009 4:22 PM
Hey! Does anyone have a lead on where the lesbo eye candy can be found? What's with all this talk of boy night?? :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 9, 2009 4:30 PM
Haha M4L - i guess the sports talk might have scared them away for good!!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 4:30 PM
Did you say "sports?"
Yankees win......THAAAAA YANKEEESSSS WINNNNNN!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: East New York at July 9, 2009 4:31 PM
M4L, speak of the devil and she will appear :)
Hello! Or shall I say meow?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 9, 2009 4:31 PM
dave - i like all flavors. heck i may even end up marrying a woman some day. or a chick with a dick. never say never.
bridges - i totally missed that chicken coop. if only chinese vinnie at mare chiaro knew that we were lusting after him he would have beat the sh*t out of us. he should have known by all the patsy cline songs we were playing from the juke box that we were strange fruit.
Posted by: winthropst at July 9, 2009 4:32 PM
You fellas just wait...I'm gonna email the girls and let them know that tomorrow is Bra Talk day! Ha!!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 9, 2009 4:32 PM
snappy - are you looking for lipstick or butch?
Posted by: winthropst at July 9, 2009 4:34 PM
"tomorrow is Bra Talk day! Ha!!"
anyone good at taking a bra off with one hand?
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 4:37 PM
dipster what about the new hollister store opening on the corner of houston and broadway? double blech
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 9, 2009 4:38 PM
When are you coming over to see my fruit trees, winthropst???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 4:38 PM
DH, I'll be dropping by my rental unit Sat to do some measurements, etc. then dropping by lowes. if you want to drop by let me know.
Posted by: more4less at July 9, 2009 4:38 PM
Lipstick but not high maintenance femme to soft stud/sorta andro but not fully boyish works for me.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 9, 2009 4:38 PM
winthropst - I think we all know by now that if you find snappy a serena williams look alike, she will be greatful forever! especially if she has her thighs.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 9, 2009 4:39 PM
When are you coming over to see my fruit trees, winthropst???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 4:38 PM
Is that what they call it these days? AND
that's why she said.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 9, 2009 4:40 PM
"DH, I'll be dropping by my rental unit Sat to do some measurements, etc. then dropping by lowes. if you want to drop by let me know."
Yeah - I'll be around M4L. Shoot me an email @ dipster11211 at gmail dot com and we can coordinate.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 4:41 PM
"tomorrow is Bra Talk day! Ha!!"
anyone good at taking a bra off with one hand?
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 4:37 PM
Don't know, I've never put one on.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 9, 2009 4:41 PM
Yeah Rob - eff hollister. all that means there will be more tourists downtown looking to buy the same stuff they can buy in their local mall.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 4:43 PM
anyone good at taking a bra off with one hand?
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 4:37 PM
I mastered that technique but sometimes they trick you with the ones that open in the front. Damn women!
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 9, 2009 4:43 PM
that's why she said.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 9, 2009 4:40 PM
I even screwed that one up! Time for third coffee of the day. I soooo self PWNED myself just now.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 9, 2009 4:45 PM
I can remove one with only two fingers. Don't be too jealous though...I've got unfettered access to the equipment and lots of time to practice :) Ha!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 9, 2009 4:45 PM
haha kens - too funny. it's always those weird strapless ones that open in the front too.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 4:46 PM
not fair Snappy! as you said, you are able to practice haha
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 4:50 PM
snappy - i think i know your type. smith girls? LTTR magazine? do you like them in their 20's at all since they're all over the L train. that L. if you're near the burg tonight go to a friend's photo exhibit reception at capricious gallery - 6 to 9. notice i didn't use the word "opening". great photos and i'm sure there will be great eye-candy. i have a boring building meeting so i can't go myself.
speaking of bras save up some pennies and get custom fitted for a rigby & peller
dave - my csa fruit share didn't arrive on time from upstate yesterday. what kind of fruit you got to pick? haha.
Posted by: winthropst at July 9, 2009 4:54 PM
boyz, that's really an unnecessary skill. how does it help things?
Posted by: more4less at July 9, 2009 4:55 PM
Winthrop...never heard of smith girls ro LTTR mag. My type is a super thick black woman, insanely smart, high level education, great sense of humor, kid at heart. Know any of those? :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 9, 2009 4:58 PM
"anyone good at taking a bra off with one hand?"
I was pretty good at that once. Takes practice. Now, I just ask my wife to take her bra off.
"Lipstick but not high maintenance femme"
GOOD LUCK with that one, Snappy! HA! Aren't they all....nevermind.
Posted by: East New York at July 9, 2009 4:59 PM
haha m4l
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 4:59 PM
ENY, not all of em are high maintenance (most are but not all!). I'm talking about the women who will rock a dress and then the next day have no problem wearing jeans and a t-shirt while helping me build a bookcase without whining about ruining her manicure or breaking a sweat heaven forbid!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 9, 2009 5:02 PM
snappy - smith college. LTTR = "Lesbians To The Rescue". one of my neighbors might fit your bill. will have to do some investigating.
Posted by: winthropst at July 9, 2009 5:03 PM
Winthrop...is she at least 30? I went out once (ONCE) with a girl (note I said girl and not woman) who was in her mid 20's about a year ago. NEVER AGAIN WILL I HANG WITH THE TODDLERS! ARGH!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 9, 2009 5:05 PM
"I was pretty good at that once. Takes practice. Now, I just ask my wife to take her bra off."
haha awesome - 'wife, please remove your brassier - thanks'
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 5:05 PM
quote:
My type is a super thick black woman, insanely smart, high level education, great sense of humor, kid at heart.
omg! mine too (minus the high level of education part tho)
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 9, 2009 5:06 PM
Winthrop...never heard of smith girls ro LTTR mag. My type is a super thick black woman, insanely smart, high level education, great sense of humor, kid at heart. Know any of those? :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 9, 2009 4:58 PM
You sure you don't want to date yourself Snappy? :o).
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 9, 2009 5:09 PM
somehow, I suspect ENY makes that request to his wife via a simple hand gesture or a certain stare with his eyes
Posted by: more4less at July 9, 2009 5:09 PM
Kens, I've dated myself for too long :( LOL
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 9, 2009 5:10 PM
snappy - i think she is in her late 30's. my gaydar tells me something about her. i hear ya about dating kids in their 20's. too much puppy energy for me. makes me want to give them a valium and a shot of whiskey.
Posted by: winthropst at July 9, 2009 5:11 PM
Rob, sounds like we can go lady-hunting together then!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 9, 2009 5:11 PM
Today’s OT and Basil thief thread were awesome. I enjoyed it immensely.
Have a good evening everyone!!!!!
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 9, 2009 5:12 PM
"makes me want to give them a valium and a shot of whiskey."
Sounds like my Sundays.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 5:13 PM
Winthrop, if anything this girl needed to back off the alcohol! She got sloppy fall down drunk and I had to threaten to call the cops on her if she tried to drive her car. She also had the immaturity to come out to manhattan with only a few bucks in her wallet (she let some lecherous looking guy buy her drinks all night - henny...what else!) and couldn't afford the cab ride home. NEVER AGAIN!!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 9, 2009 5:16 PM
dh - do you hang out with mrs. robinson on sundays?
snappy - did you try match.com?
Posted by: winthropst at July 9, 2009 5:19 PM
No, I've never tried match or anything. I'm skeptical about paying for something like that and then not finding anyone. Besides, if I did find a girl there I'd probably be embarassed to tell folks "yeah, I found a chick on the net!" LOL.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 9, 2009 5:21 PM
It's time for me to dash...nite all and just you wait for tomorrow's bra convo!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 9, 2009 5:26 PM
snappy - it's worth a try to see what's out there. i've met great people but not any serious dates though. don't be embarassed - people would probably be jealous.
Posted by: winthropst at July 9, 2009 5:27 PM
haha winthrop - is Mrs. Robinson a synonym for cougar.
I got QOTD on Curbed - eff yeah!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 9, 2009 5:30 PM
nighty nite. i'm off too. will be away for tomorrow's bra talk. shame cause i've actually had lots of experience with that.
Posted by: winthropst at July 9, 2009 5:33 PM
Wow.
See comments by owner of Adelphi Street house on the HOTD at 540pm.
And stay the f**k "Awaye" from the shady broker.
Posted by: etson at July 9, 2009 6:27 PM
ugh snappy, that girl might be my OTHER long lost sistah lol
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 9, 2009 6:45 PM
dipster , that might be an accomplishent if forn't the fact there are only 10 comments a day on curbed. hahahah but congratz, i noticed u there
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 9, 2009 6:47 PM
Wow,am I glad my 11 yr old is into neither video games (xcept Zoo-whatever) nor sports, I'd have a sorry time accompanying him anywhere if so. No longer into dinosaurs!! *I'm* into dinosaurs!
I took him to the High Line last week. And the Alice Neal show at a gallery nearby.
My suggestions:
Shakespeare in the Park
CP Zoo small but good 1-2 hr jaunt
Cycling on Governor's Island
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