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July 6, 2009
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Biff should be back. I hope he's not lost at sea....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rELOFvy81CI
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 9:19 AM
so yesterday i wake up at like 630 in the morning or so. totally oblivious to everything and was like ah, i must go feed the cat (supposed to feed him friday evening and sunday evening). i totally thought it was like 630ish at night and im walking to prospect heights and was like this is really strange there is NO ONE around, no cars, nothing. and the weather was chilly. i didnt realize it was early in the morning until i was on my way back home asking someone if it was sunday morning, sunday evening, or monday morning. this guy with two pitbulls of his own (like the only one on the street at that hour) was laughing at me be being like, oh ive been there hahaaha. crazy!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 6, 2009 9:24 AM
oh yeah and i was convinced the time on my cell phone was wrong. wtf?
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 6, 2009 9:25 AM
rob, the time shown on cell phones are now feed via a wireless signal from the wireless network clock (ie accurate) vs. those old bricks where the clock is in the phone and we occasionally have to change it when it runs a little fast/slow or we traveling to a diff time zone, etc. in others words, trust the time on the phone
Posted by: more4less at July 6, 2009 9:30 AM
Haha Rob - I've had a few days like that. A total time warp.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 6, 2009 9:31 AM
Speaking of trusting time - is there anyway to make automatic watches not stop running if you take them off for a day or so?
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 6, 2009 9:35 AM
dh - shake the watch a few times to keep it going.
Posted by: Arkady at July 6, 2009 9:38 AM
DH, get a watch winder or get one of fancy watches with the power reserve
Posted by: more4less at July 6, 2009 9:38 AM
dh, it's still correct twice a day.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 9:40 AM
i always feel so frazzled after a long weekend. shake it off shake it off!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 6, 2009 9:44 AM
Hola,
I am back from a nice weekend in Ithaca. Lots of vineyard tastings, outside restaurants and waterfalls viewing AND 9 HOURS TRIP BACK HOME IN CRAZY TRAFFIC!!!!!! BAD ECONOMY AND PEOPLE NOT TRAVELING AS MUCH MY ASSSSS!!!!!
I went to a wedding on Saturday on the Cornell Campus (Beautiful by the way) and the groom was Cornell Undergrad, MIT and LSE Grad and Cornell Law. Needless to say, most of the guests (besides family) were from those schools. I felt pretty damn stupid around these people but everyone was super nice and friendly.
Overall a good time.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 6, 2009 9:45 AM
it's not broken - i'm just tired of resetting them. thx ya'll
ugh - i was dying here at work on friday without asshat entertainment :(
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 6, 2009 9:47 AM
Greetings fellow PLUSAs. Unfortunately I am back and not lost at sea. I am swamped and won't have too much time for chit chat this morning, but had to comment on some new ads Brownstoner has. Seems he's going big time with American Apparel and a couple others. I think PLUSAs who post more than 50 comments per day should get a cut of the advertising profits since we're keeping the site hits up.
Speaking of the American Apparel ad, am I the only one who finds the brunette woman with the glasses quite fetching?
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 9:51 AM
ditto was all worked up over her last week, Biff.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 9:53 AM
Gotta love American Apparel billboards
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 6, 2009 9:58 AM
"ditto was all worked up over her last week, Biff."
Re-write:
"ditto would have liked to work her all over last week, Biff."
That plus Serena winning the women's singles title at Wimbledon (and the doubles title with Venus) must have also made Snappy happy.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 10:01 AM
american apparel billboards are always the same thing, over and over and over. a stoned and slutty looking barely legal chick.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 6, 2009 10:02 AM
I never see any Asian or Latin guys and no blacks for that matter as well in the American Apparel ads. I just clicked on the ad and NONE. Just ugly skinny lame white hipsters.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 10:03 AM
"Just ugly skinny lame white hipsters."
Just appealing to their target demographic.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 6, 2009 10:05 AM
what that is their clientele dave hahaha, but i totally agree with you
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 6, 2009 10:06 AM
Dibs - I read somewhere that that's about to change - you're not the only one to comment on it.
Posted by: Arkady at July 6, 2009 10:06 AM
slopefarm...what time were you at Dilly's???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 10:06 AM
Well, here's a nice ad.....
http://www1.seanjohn.com/landingpages/landing.php?dept=men&category=mensunderwearsocks
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 10:09 AM
Biif, I commented on the new ads a few weeks back- papa johns was the first one that made me think Mr B is really stepping up his game at OUR expense. but as for 50 posts a day, I think that would be a record even for the most dedicated PLUSA.
Posted by: Return of Randolph at July 6, 2009 10:10 AM
randi, why do you now have to post as "Return of Randolph?"
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 10:12 AM
We didn't make it until about 5:45 on Fri. I looked for you (and your car) but didn't see you. Lots of red-headed kids when we were there. We had a nice canoe ride down from Tinicum to Pt. Pleasant. How was your weekend (and when were you at Dilly's)?
Posted by: slopefarm at July 6, 2009 10:15 AM
its the new me DIBS. i'm gonna try to be nice.
Posted by: Return of Randolph at July 6, 2009 10:16 AM
I was at Dilly's around 2:30. I didn't bring the 442 b/c I knew we were going to get showers. Had it out all day Sat & Sunday though.
There was one car there with NY plates when I was there but I somehow knew that couldn't be you in the wife beater!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 10:17 AM
But randi, you told us you were a black woman a few weeks ago and this profile says "Male"
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 10:20 AM
You're right Dave. It doesn't matter how long I live in Brooklyn (23 years and counting). I'm never going to rock that look.
Posted by: slopefarm at July 6, 2009 10:22 AM
"a stoned and slutty looking barely legal chick."
Rob, you say that like it's a bad thing.
Randi, I like the new handle and attitude. When you say he's stepping up his game at our expense, what do you mean? Posting more controversial topics? (Sorry if I'm even slower than usual today; I'm still in vacation mode).
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 10:24 AM
ooooooooooh so on the 4th i was bored so i decided to walk along 5th avenue and then in the far distance i saw a Target!! i went on a home furnishings shopping spree. what neighborhood is that target in?
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 6, 2009 10:29 AM
Rob,
I think the Atlantic Terminal Mall would be considered Fort Greene.
Posted by: faithful at July 6, 2009 10:34 AM
biff, i mean making some serious $$$ by letting us run wild on the OT and baiting What and others with all this race/class BS. i am sure the money brought in by the likes of american apparel and papa johns beats running local development ads, right?
Posted by: Return of Randolph at July 6, 2009 10:38 AM
Did they have a duvet???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 10:39 AM
i got $5 that rob doesn't know what a duvet is.
Posted by: Return of Randolph at July 6, 2009 10:42 AM
Thanks Randi, I figured that's what you meant.
"i got $5 that rob doesn't know what a duvet is."
I'm guessing he thinks it's a fixture similar in design to a toilet that is straddled for bathing the genitals and the posterior parts.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 10:46 AM
wrong. that's a bidet.
Posted by: Return of Randolph at July 6, 2009 10:46 AM
Shoot, he beat me to it!
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 10:46 AM
come on rob, think.....
Posted by: Return of Randolph at July 6, 2009 10:49 AM
Rob, g'morning!
That is a good guess.
A duvet is a kind of slipcover for a comforter. It is bed linen.
Also, fyi, a bidet is not really a toilet but rather a personal hygine fixture.
Posted by: sam at July 6, 2009 10:50 AM
oh. well whatever those toilet contraptions are, i think they are absurd. how exactly is spraying water on your dainty parts , i cant construct the sentence im trying to ask :-/ ah well, bidets are just ridiculous. it's not like soapy water comes out of them right? so youre still dirty down there when you think about it. now if someone could make a bathroom contraption to deal with poo mist, that would be great. similar to how smokeless ashtrays work.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 6, 2009 10:50 AM
rob, don't you remember that video that was taken of those Asshats walking through Target asking if anyone knew where they sold the duvets???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 10:52 AM
Rob, in the days of yore, especially in Europe, a bidet was seen as a good alternative to a bath. It just washed the nether regions, mostly of women, mostly after sex or during their "time of the month". Aren't you sorry you asked?
PS: also excellent for washing babies' hinies.
Posted by: sam at July 6, 2009 10:57 AM
sam, I never knew how to spell "hinies." Thank you.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 10:59 AM
Bidets are great. A lot of guys I know think they feel terrific.
Posted by: Arkady at July 6, 2009 11:10 AM
After living in WT for a year, I took a walk in Marine Park near where I grew up. I gotta say, after using Prospect Park excusively for months, the Marine Park athletic field seemed so small! It's just a small part of the actual 2000+ acres but it's what we always referred to as "the park." Between Olmstead's brilliant designs and the sheer scale Prospect Park has increased my appetite for visual aesthetics. I may have to visit the larger part of MP, the "creek" and walk the nature trail before I give my final opinion!
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at July 6, 2009 11:13 AM
Hey Everyone
anyone else bummed they couldn't see the fireworks this year?
we went to the pier in Red Hook and all we saw were the wack-a$$ fireworks from Jersey City, not the ones from Macy's!!! - oh well - there were lots of people in Red Hook though waiting for the fireworks so it was kinda funny when we all realized we wouldn't be seeing them this year
Dibs- I remember that Target video - it was hilarious
Posted by: gemini10 at July 6, 2009 11:15 AM
bidets are good, they used to be considered "French luxe" in new houses. They save on toilet paper, so that makes them green.
Has anyone tried the new waterless urinals? That's the future!
Posted by: sam at July 6, 2009 11:16 AM
What do the waterless urinals use instead? Is it just re-circulated water?
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at July 6, 2009 11:18 AM
"Bidets are great. A lot of guys I know think they feel terrific."
Why is it that all of a sudden the song "Tainted Love" pops to mind?
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 11:24 AM
I thought you were kidding Rob, with the mixing of the duvet/bidet thing.
I love bidets. After birthing my first baby (do I sound circa 1870?), I thought one would be an excellent idea (for any of you men out there who don't get this, don't try to picture it. It isn't pleasant. And the help in using one lasts for several weeks post-birth because tp is simply too painful). And I was right, it was. And Rob, you keep soap or a cleanser on the bidet, so one is not still "dirty down there" following. Oh, and they are GREAT for cleaning little kids bums, feet, hands etc. Right at their height.
I sound like an ad.
Posted by: Nokilissa at July 6, 2009 11:24 AM
im sorry but how do bidets cut down on toilet paper usage? you still need to wipe yourself dry unless you wanna walk around with swamp ass all day. how much pressure comes out of these things anyway?
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 6, 2009 11:27 AM
In the new green certified highrises such as 4 Times Square the toilets use captured rainwater and the urinals use no water.
Posted by: sam at July 6, 2009 11:27 AM
Chemical fluid that seals the fixture by floating on top of urine, which just flows away. No flush
Posted by: cmu at July 6, 2009 11:27 AM
When I was in Rome 2 months ago, son called me into the bathroom claiming flush did not work, you had to hold the handle down constantly and even then it was spraying water in a strange way. Turned out it was a combo toilet-bidet with two different handles for the two functions. Bidet spray tended to splash out of fixture, so result of son's mis-flush would not have been agreeable to Rob
Posted by: cmu at July 6, 2009 11:31 AM
Rob, you just use a towel. Same as after a shower. Presumably one is pristine following the use of soap! :)
Posted by: Nokilissa at July 6, 2009 11:34 AM
I fear if Rob ever comes into contact with a bidet, he might mistake it for a drinking fountain.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 11:34 AM
Rob - There're controls on the bidet so you can regulate how strong the jet is (& how much hot/cold water you want.)
Posted by: Arkady at July 6, 2009 11:39 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^
or even worse, he might mistake a drinking fountain in a public park for a bidet!!
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 11:39 AM
cmu: where have you seen the new urinals?
Posted by: sam at July 6, 2009 11:42 AM
I guarantee that if Rob tried one he'd love it.
Posted by: Arkady at July 6, 2009 11:43 AM
QUESTION: Have any of you experienced a slowdown in your computer because there were so many saved internet pages in a folder, all from refreshing brownstoner pages????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 11:44 AM
I think we are being a little mean to Rob.
What would we do without him?
In terms of the fireworks, I was out of town but I heard that they were not visible from the usual locations in Brooklyn such as the promenade and Fulton Ferry Park.
Posted by: sam at July 6, 2009 11:46 AM
It would be worse if Rob came into contact with a duvet and used it as a bidet.
Posted by: Expert Textpert at July 6, 2009 11:46 AM
sam, I've seen them in 1 Bryant Park, myself.
Posted by: denton at July 6, 2009 11:47 AM
Dibs - YES!
how can we get rid of them?
Posted by: gemini10 at July 6, 2009 11:48 AM
4th of july was awesome up until I was shooting roman candles off on n9th and wythe....i mean...
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 6, 2009 11:49 AM
1 Bryant Park? Is that the new Durst building?
Posted by: sam at July 6, 2009 11:51 AM
I read that fireworks were moved to the Hudson to honor anniversary of Henry Hudson's discovery - 400 yrs.
Posted by: Arkady at July 6, 2009 11:59 AM
sam, yeah, that's the one.
Posted by: denton at July 6, 2009 12:00 PM
denton, that's the second tallest building in NYC now, after the Empire State Building (built in 1929!)
Posted by: sam at July 6, 2009 12:01 PM
sam, the fireworks were visible from Brooklyn Heights, including the Promenade, much to my surprise. They must have had multiple locations, like when they were done on the East River. I think they were launched somewhere off the southern tip of Manhattan.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 12:02 PM
Is 1 Bryant Park the new BoA building that sporadically showers broken glass upon people on 42nd St when it gets windy?
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 6, 2009 12:03 PM
No people in today's ROTD
Posted by: Arkady at July 6, 2009 12:05 PM
Biff: really?
The paper said the fireworks barges were to be located between 23rd Street and 59th Street. In years past they have been right in front of the promenade.
Posted by: sam at July 6, 2009 12:05 PM
sam, iirc I toured a large building in Manhattan last year that had them. did not use, but they look just like a regular one with only a hint of a fluid surface, and no flush lever.
Posted by: cmu at July 6, 2009 12:06 PM
"Is 1 Bryant Park the new BoA building that sporadically showers broken glass upon people"
At least they'll be free of pee-mist.
Posted by: cmu at July 6, 2009 12:07 PM
sam, definitely. I saw the whole show. It was south of the Promenade (and West toward Jersey). I suppose it's like when they generally advertised the show in midtown on the East River but had an identical display down by the Promenade.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 12:11 PM
I was able to see, from Clinton Hill, fireworks - saw two sets of them (guess the smaller one is the Jersey City one G10 referenced)
Posted by: more4less at July 6, 2009 12:14 PM
It was 400 years since the Asshat Henry Hudson sailed in. That's why the Fireworks was over there! God Damn Retards!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 6, 2009 12:15 PM
Arkady, the people-less ROTD pictures have been an (unfortunate) trend after the kerfuffle a few weeks ago.
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at July 6, 2009 12:16 PM
"i am sure the money brought in by the likes of american apparel and papa johns beats running local development ads, right?"
Right. Also explains why Mr. Brownstoner would never ban The What, easily his most provocative poster.
Posted by: East New York at July 6, 2009 12:21 PM
What, just so you know, I saw your apology to cobblehiller and me last week but I was on vacation and not commenting. No hard feelings at all and thanks for posting it.
On another note, as I was watching on TV the many tributes to Michael Jackson and outpouring of emotions from people all over the world as they grieved his passing and celebrated his music, I was wondering if some of those here who, subsequent to my FGVOTD tribute to MJ, were questioning his impact on the entertainment industry (and beyond) and implying he was irrelevant might have changed their opinion at least just a little bit.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 12:34 PM
Nope, Biff. I loved a quote I think was from Gail Collins about the coverage, "While media were busy announcing that M.J. was still dead, Sarah Palin..."
Posted by: Arkady at July 6, 2009 12:39 PM
As for MJ, there are plenty of soldiers coming home dead and they get nary a drop of ink. 10 days of MJ all day is very spooky. And why do they need Al to be their spokesperson.
Posted by: DeLepp at July 6, 2009 12:42 PM
DeLepp, I agree with you about the pathetic lack of coverage soldiers (and Afghani and Iraqi civilians) killed in action are getting. That's been raised as an issue for a long time now and was one (of many) criticisms directed towards the Bush administration from the start of both invasions. MJ didn't exactly knock the coverage off the front pages.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 12:52 PM
Biff, true enough. But I think this grieving period for MJ doesn't seem healthy for us as a nation. He was a genius for his time, but 10 days and counting? Is it because it makes people feel as if they are part of a community (of grievers)? Maybe it's just the total saturation that bothers me. Hell, even nightline posted super ratings last week. WSJ mentioned last week he was the last "celebirty". When Anna Nicole Smith died there was more ink/bytes/tears wasted for a nut then a past president dying.
Posted by: DeLepp at July 6, 2009 1:02 PM
DeLepp, I'm hoping it will all be over after the official memorial service(s) get saturation coverage. Otherwise 10 days and counting might turn into some longer time period and counting...
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at July 6, 2009 1:09 PM
I grew up watching MJ. I saw him on Ed Sullivan. I think Diana Ross introduced him. The Jackson Five had great songs. He kept writing hit songs and creating great choreography. I am very sad thinking about his death. But after all, fifty is not all that young especially when compared to the 19-year-old soldiers killed in Iraq and elsewhere. We can't all expect to live as long as Robert McNamara who died in his sleep at age 93 yesterday. he is remembered by my generation for masterminding a senseless and immoral war in SE Asia.
I believe MJ began to think of himself as Jesus (as pictures in one of those old holy cards surrounded by little children). Most of the world began to see him as a creepy phantom of the opera/child molester. No wonder he needed drugs to sleep. In any case, RIP, his music and dance will outlive him and us and the controversies. McNamara will only be remembered for his idiotic war.
Posted by: sam at July 6, 2009 1:13 PM
Chicken, are you out there? Still going to Sycamore this evening?
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at July 6, 2009 1:15 PM
DeLepp, I would surmise the extended coverage is a combination of the fact he was such a compelling personality for a variety of reasons and the fact his music was extremely uplifting; not necessarily in a spiritual sense, but in the sense many people find it difficult not to want to jump up and dance when they hear it. And, not to sound too hokey, but I think the current economic conditions (including home foreclosures, lost jobs, declining wealth, etc.) have made people yearn for something to uplift them.
sam, speaking of McNamara, did you ever see the movie The Fog of War? It's a must see, especially for those like you who are familiar with McNamara.
http://www.sonyclassics.com/fogofwar/
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 1:16 PM
when one hears the "MJ" reference, who comes to mind most often?
for me, it's Michael Jordan, then Magic Johnson, then Michael Jackson, and lastly (as a big knicks fan) Mark Jackson
Posted by: more4less at July 6, 2009 1:24 PM
a vast majority of people do not want to be mentally and emotionally bogged down by serious topics. that's just how life is. why would someone want to watch bloody war footage if they could just flip the channel and watch hannah montana?
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 6, 2009 1:25 PM
Mick Jagger
Marc Jacobs
Mick Jones
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 1:28 PM
Mary Jane, Peter Parker's girlfriend
Posted by: infinitejester at July 6, 2009 1:34 PM
Biff, yes the fog of war is a great documentary.
I was a child and adolescent during the long Vietnam war, but even if one was not born until way after that conflict ended, the "fog of war" is worth watching.
Posted by: sam at July 6, 2009 1:34 PM
There was an article in the WSJ last week about salaries for athletes. The gist was, if we really did value service professions like we say we do, those salaries would not be the case. The American public is a selfish one...most people think the only goal in life is to have fun, and that's it.
Posted by: infinitejester at July 6, 2009 1:38 PM
Rob, you make an excellent point.
Posted by: sam at July 6, 2009 1:39 PM
Afternoon PLUSAs! Hope everyone had a great weekend.
I had the most humoruous subway ride today. A guy was preaching to us at the top of his lungs. Some of the gems he laid out:
"I used to be on crack. To get it, I stole from my momma, my sister - I stole my landlord's tv and vcr - TWICE! If I can do that for crack, I can do this for Christ!"
"If you don't listen, you'll wind up in hell. It's like the people of New Orleans who didn't listen when they were told that the levees were going to break. They weren't told the levees *may* break. NO! It was a sure thing. They were told, the levees *are* gonna break. FO SHIZZLE MY NIZZLE!"
"When you die you can't take it with you. When Bill Gates dies, Microsoft will still be here. When Jay-Z dies, the 40-40 Club will still be here. And when Curtis "50 Cent" Jackson dies, G G G G G-UNIT will still be here folks!"
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 6, 2009 1:48 PM
> why would someone want to watch bloody war footage if they could just flip the channel and watch hannah montana?
- Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 6, 2009 1:25 PM
> Rob, you make an excellent point.
- Posted by: sam at July 6, 2009 1:39 PM
Sam watches Hannah Montana.
Posted by: Expert Textpert at July 6, 2009 1:50 PM
Did you get a pic, Snappy? it may have been the What.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 1:51 PM
LOL Dave! No pics, I was too busy howling and wiping the tears from my eyes :) I hated that I laughed in the face a man preaching but it was too damned funny!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 6, 2009 1:55 PM
> Did you get a pic, Snappy? it may have been the What.
- Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 1:51 PM
If it was the What....
"I am on medication. To get it, I go upstairs from the basement in Lodi and steal from my momma, my sister - I stole my Asshat landlord's tv and vcr - TWICE! If I can do that for medication, I can do this for Brownstoner!
Someday this was is gonna end"
Posted by: Expert Textpert at July 6, 2009 1:56 PM
Snappy, that's hilarious. G G G G UNIITTTT.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 6, 2009 1:57 PM
was = war
Posted by: Expert Textpert at July 6, 2009 1:59 PM
Kens, I literally laughed so hard I cried and almost fell off the seat. I'm *so* going to hell!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 6, 2009 2:01 PM
Snappy, I think laughing at the preaching man is not the worst of your sins!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 2:04 PM
Hey everyone hope you had a great weekend.
Snappy! That's too much. I'd have laughed too.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 6, 2009 2:05 PM
Insert, Not to worry. God forgives everything, even laughter.
Posted by: Expert Textpert at July 6, 2009 2:09 PM
Very true Dave! He also went into how God made Adam and Eve and not Adam and Steve and how we gays are in trouble for our "if it feels good, do it" attitude!
Hey THL! How goes it?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 6, 2009 2:10 PM
Two questions:
1) Someone suggested putting coffee grinds in potted plants to promote their growth. Has anyone else ever heard of this?
2) Is it just my imagination or is it more often than not the wind in the morning is blowing from the Northwest? It seems I am almost always cycling against the wind on my way to work as I cross the Brooklyn Bridge.
Thanks in advance for your answers, even the snarky ones.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 2:11 PM
So today I went to the grocery store. Spending about a half hour loading up my cart with my carefully selected items and some kick *ss sales stuff that I use regularly. I'm in such a great mood.
Get to the register.
Unload my stuff.
Help and old lady unload her cart (hard to reach down and in).
Wait for it all to be rung up.
$149 blah blah blah...
Open my wallet.
It's empty!
Huh?
Oh right! I took out my cash, credit card and debit card and stuck it in my super cute little clutch purse when we went to a party this weekend.
Mother !@)#(&!@(*#$&R(!*@&E)(!@#*)((!!!!!
"Miss, I'm really sorrybut I have left my money and card at home in another bag."
Pissy grunt snort and roll of the eyes as I do the walk of shame out of the store empty handed.
Boo Hoo.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 6, 2009 2:11 PM
Biff, just sent you an email.
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at July 6, 2009 2:12 PM
This one's for the chicken and more4less:
http://www.angryasianman.com/2009/06/we-accept-asian-kids-with-funny-hats.html
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at July 6, 2009 2:16 PM
THL - That's awful but at least better than having been pick-pocketed which is where I thought the story was going...
Posted by: Arkady at July 6, 2009 2:17 PM
sixyears, was it an answer to my potted plant and coffee grinds question? kidding...didn't get the email yet.
That reminded me of another question. Why do people spell out their email addresses (i.e., biff dot champion at yahoo dot com) rather than typing them in the traditional way? I can understand doing that if certain sites don't allow one to post them as proper email strings, but this site allows it. So what gives?
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 2:17 PM
THL, that blows!!!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 6, 2009 2:18 PM
Biff, my mom does that in her garden and swears by it.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 6, 2009 2:18 PM
What a gorgeous day
m4l - lots of talent out and about in soho/nolita today.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 6, 2009 2:19 PM
6yrs, I actually wore one of those rice paddy hats growing up. I'll take the hat over the usual slanty eyes
Posted by: more4less at July 6, 2009 2:21 PM
I'm trying to understand. If I post something that's offensive then everyone is calling for Brownstoner to "Ban" me. If I don't post anything the the little retards miss me.
InsertSnappyNameHere you must be a very good Lawyer to remember Verbatim what this "Preacher" said. Forgive me but I doubt a man of God would say all those things.
"I used to be on crack. To get it, I stole from my momma, my sister - I stole my landlord's tv and vcr - TWICE! If I can do that for crack, I can do this for Christ!" is a testament of this man cleaning up is life for GOD and the funny thing is that you ridicule him for doing that.
I notice the undertones of Covert Race/Class Warfare that skinks this Blog up but, we are in the beginning of the end. I wonder how you Mind Set will wind up this fall as you watch everything you work for turn to dust maybe this "Preacher" is not so crazy after all..
The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
Posted by: Return of The What at July 6, 2009 2:22 PM
I was so upset.
Even though I knew with 99.9% certainty where it was I didn't feel good until I got home and went into my purse dresser, took it out and had it back in my wallet.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 6, 2009 2:23 PM
DH, thanks to the arrival of summer interns, there's some young talent in the NJ office else the only eye candy is if a hot convertible car is parked in the lot
Posted by: more4less at July 6, 2009 2:24 PM
Oy vey
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 6, 2009 2:24 PM
> 1) Someone suggested putting coffee grinds in potted plants to promote their growth. Has anyone else ever heard of this?
If you're growing coffee, what do you put in the soil to promote growth?
Posted by: Expert Textpert at July 6, 2009 2:24 PM
That reminded me of another question. Why do people spell out their email addresses (i.e., biff dot champion at yahoo dot com) rather than typing them in the traditional way? I can understand doing that if certain sites don't allow one to post them as proper email strings, but this site allows it. So what gives?
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 2:17 PM
Biff, that's because there are program bots that search through websites for email addresses typed in conventional ways and written by programmers for those mass spam email companies. They pick up your email and then unload a whole crap of Spam to your email address. BTW they pick up sentences with the words "dot" as well. Creative people put like a few spaces in between not to get their email address picked up.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 6, 2009 2:25 PM
haha nice M4L - someone will be cruising the hallways during lunch this week!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 6, 2009 2:27 PM
"InsertSnappyNameHere you must be a very good Lawyer to remember Verbatim what this "Preacher" said. Forgive me but I doubt a man of God would say all those things."
What, I never said the man was a man of God. I said he was a guy preaching to us. I'll be the first to agree that anyone holding a bible and spouting verses etc isn't always a man of God. Whether or not he is right about what he said is a matter of opinion and in time will bear itself out :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 6, 2009 2:29 PM
Biff, re: the coffee it really depends on the soil you start out with. Most soil around here benefits well from it.
You could do the whole soil testing kit to find out what it needs but yeah, we always added coffee grinds to our compost pile and it makes for a really rich soil.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 6, 2009 2:29 PM
quote:
That reminded me of another question. Why do people spell out their email addresses (i.e., biff dot champion at yahoo dot com) rather than typing them in the traditional way?
cuz if someone googled your e-mail address, they would find all the websites you are registered for under that e-mail address. like if someone googled dibs' address gaysianrentboys.com could theoretically pop up.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 6, 2009 2:29 PM
Hope everyone had a good break!
"Chicken, are you out there? Still going to Sycamore this evening?
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at July 6, 2009 1:15 PM"
Yep, what time can you come out to play?
Posted by: the chicken at July 6, 2009 2:29 PM
i googled my ex boyfriend's email address, a few of his email address that i knew of, and was MORTIFIED at some of the things that came up. youd think someone would be smart enough to use different email addresses.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 6, 2009 2:30 PM
Thanks Kens. I find, despite having typed out the actual email address, I'm not getting much spam these days. Perhaps Yahoo has gotten much better at recognizing and blocking it.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 2:31 PM
You name the time, chicken - I'll probably be there anyway! All the rest of you PLUSAs are welcome too - Kensingtonian, will you be able to make it to Sycamore this evening?
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at July 6, 2009 2:32 PM
Wow, someone stopped off at the bait shop before stopping in today and is fishing.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 6, 2009 2:32 PM
"This one's for the chicken and more4less:
http://www.angryasianman.com/2009/06/we-accept-asian-kids-with-funny-hats.html
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at July 6, 2009 2:16 PM"
Oh - I thought that was a child demonstrating an isosceles triangle...
Posted by: the chicken at July 6, 2009 2:35 PM
Rob, thanks, that makes sense too.
Thanks THL. The plant in question is the one in my office at The Death Star so presumably the soil is crap to begin with. I haven't tried it on anything at home (not that I would; Mrs. C is in charge of all vegetation, including me when I'm on the couch on weekends watching hockey or football), but will mention it to the head of the household.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 2:35 PM
six, thanks for asking. I did 2 days of wine tastings in upstate and then had to drive 8 1/2 hours from Ithaca with all the crazy traffic yesterday and didn't get home till 2:30. I am exhausted and going to crash as soon as I get home. if it would be tomorrow, I would have definitely made it.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 6, 2009 2:35 PM
Shall we say from 6? Snag a table in the garden?
Posted by: the chicken at July 6, 2009 2:36 PM
Biff, I think yahoo, aol and gmail have gotten better at spotting spam. I don't get nearly as much as I used to.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 6, 2009 2:37 PM
6 is always a good number to pick. Sycamore is at 1118 Cortelyou, just off the Q train. Kens, sorry you can't make it - it was originally scheduled for tomorrow but the chicken couldn't meet then. What about you, etson?
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at July 6, 2009 2:41 PM
"skinks this Blog"
Did you mean the Kinks?
Give it a rest What, You are not 'A Well Respected Man'
Posted by: Expert Textpert at July 6, 2009 2:41 PM
Biff, speaking of hockey, You saw the trades last week??? Rangers getting rid of Gomez and picking up some of your fellow Canadians? Rumor has it, they might be freeing up room for Heagtley.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 6, 2009 2:41 PM
The headmaster of my grammar school was killed by rent boys. Electrical flex cord at his bedsit in Plumstead. Sordid affair the whole thing.
Posted by: dittoburg at July 6, 2009 2:44 PM
Six, if I don't pass out right when I come home from work, I'll show up to Sycamore for a drink. The weather is just too nice.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 6, 2009 2:44 PM
Snappy - The devil is noted for quoting the bible for his own purposes...
Posted by: Arkady at July 6, 2009 2:44 PM
Very true, Arkady! How are you? It's a wonderful day outside :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 6, 2009 2:47 PM
BRG, did you get your caddy washed yet?
Posted by: more4less at July 6, 2009 2:47 PM
Plumstead, PA, ditto????
All my rent boys are nice guys.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 2:48 PM
Thanks, but don't think I'll be able to make it over to Sycamore tonight.
Posted by: etson at July 6, 2009 2:49 PM
"Electrical flex cord at his bedsit in Plumstead."
ditto, I grew up learning the Queen's English and still need subtitles for that one.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 2:49 PM
The Queen's English?
There's a giggle.
Posted by: sam at July 6, 2009 2:52 PM
bedsit = small studio / SRO.
electrical flex cord = wire for electric kettle or similar.
Plumstead = neighborhood in outer SE London.
Posted by: etson at July 6, 2009 2:54 PM
What,
I'll bite. This is just me, but I don't think I've ever suggested you be banned. I also don't think DIBS -- your eprceived main nemesis -- has, either. You and I have sparred a lot, but usually on a topic. Sometimes I try to call you on what I perceived to be gaps in the logic of your arguments, and I find it frustrating sometimes when you just won't do it because, it seems, you think all your arguments are self-evidently logical and anyone who can't see it is, well, in your words an R word or an A word. Sometimes, I take the bait and try to press really hard, because, regardless of the merits of your views, I think you get away with sloppiness. Sometimes, I just don't bother because I know that you will counterattack, but not debate in a meaningful way. Way, way back, when we were new to each other, I expressed some concerns about whether some of your posts threatened real violence and I was worried you had gone beyond puffery. I don't see it that way anymore.
My take, fwiw, is that you probably perceive more people wanting you banned than is actually the case. I think that is because you have a hard time distinguishing argument and disagreement with your views from actual attacks and hatred. It is probably true that a lot of the posters you don't respect or think much of have a similar view towards you. You've gone pretty agressively on the attact, and with seemingly a lot of personal venom towards a number of posters and teh community as a whole. (For a while, you were gleefully predicting that I would not be able to get an appraisal to support my refi. Now why would you wish that on me? I don't wish harm to you. And btw, you were wrong -- the appraisal was quite strong.) As a result, you have made yourself quite a target. Also, you have put you persona at issue so heavily that some on this blog miss you just because they want to unravel the mystery -- if there is one -- about who you are and what makes you tick. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
So, in the end, if you want to dish it out, be ready to take it. This is a blog, and I don't believe in banning unless there is a serious reason. But I think the better course is to actually pay attention to the arguments of those disagreeing with you and, if you think they are wrong, explain why, with logic and data that actually accounts for the opposing view. When pressed on logic, you usually retreat behind a barricade. I don't want you banned, but I am not sure at this point that I would miss you if you dropped off the blog.
Posted by: slopefarm at July 6, 2009 2:55 PM
Biff and etson, how about this one:
"He walked and drove in a run."
Posted by: infinitejester at July 6, 2009 2:58 PM
I won't be able to make Sycamore tonight. Friday night was whiskey sours all night, Saturday was margharitas and beer last night.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 3:01 PM
The Queen's English = Rhetoric spoken by daveinbedstuy
Posted by: Expert Textpert at July 6, 2009 3:05 PM
Apparently everyone was drunk on 4th of July weekend, except the chicken, who was in mourning.
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at July 6, 2009 3:06 PM
He used to dish out corporal punishment at our school. (Birching for those speaking the Queen's English)
Posted by: dittoburg at July 6, 2009 3:12 PM
DH, I have a suggestion for your automatic watch issue from this morning. put your watch inside a sock (or something that can cushion it against shock) then inside a plastic bag and hang it to a hook or something on your bathrm door (which I assume is the most active dr in your apt). Maybe the dr opening & shutting might just give it enough movemt to keep watch going.
Posted by: more4less at July 6, 2009 3:14 PM
I like rent boys to dish out a bit of corporal punishment to me. Then there's the Marine corporal but that's a different story. :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 3:17 PM
Instead of pay toilets, I'm thinking of opening a bunch of pay bidets around New York. Then when someone asks how my day went, I can say, "another bidet, another dollar".
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 3:22 PM
Slopefarm I typed out a long reply and it got lost on my computer. In a way I'm very glad it happen. So it is what it is...
I will let this stand on it's own...
Someday this war's gonna end. That'd be just fine with the boys on the boat. They weren't looking for anything more than a way home. Trouble is, I'd been back there, and I knew that it just didn't exist anymore.
Captain Benjamin L. Willard - Apocalypse Now
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 6, 2009 3:22 PM
Why does What post as Return of the What? Was his original namesake banned or taken?
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at July 6, 2009 3:23 PM
> I like rent boys to dish out a bit of corporal punishment to me. Then there's the Marine corporal but that's a different story. :)
daveinbedstuy, you left out a word or two in your above sentence.
I like TO rent boys to dish out a bit of corporal punishment to me. Then there's the Marine corporal but that's a different punishment. :)
Posted by: Expert Textpert at July 6, 2009 3:23 PM
I believe the What was banned for awhile, so was Rob, for a much shorter period.
I think anyone who uses words such as "idiot" or "moron"
or racist taunts aimed at other posters should be banned for a couple of weeks. Even though this is an anonymous blog, hateful comments can still be offensive and they are a huge turnoff.
Posted by: sam at July 6, 2009 3:31 PM
just notice that I haven't seen ghetto in action here
Posted by: more4less at July 6, 2009 3:32 PM
slope....did you expect anything else from him????? All he can do is cut and paste and quote Apocalypse Now.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 3:32 PM
Thanks.
I'll try to keep my hate at an acceptable level.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at July 6, 2009 3:35 PM
"I think anyone who uses words such as "idiot" or "moron"
or racist taunts aimed at other posters should be banned for a couple of weeks. "
You you agree Dave should be banned for using the "N Word" right??!!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 6, 2009 3:35 PM
omg, this might just be one of my new fav. websites...
http://stfuparents.tumblr.com/
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 6, 2009 3:39 PM
"You you agree Dave should be banned for using the "N Word" right??!!"
Context, it's all about the context.
No one agrees it was used in a racist manner so can we please stop beating this horse?
It's dead. D.E.A.D. DEAD.
I think your insisting on repeatedly going back to this is hurting your larger argument. It's a bit 'the boy who cried wolf'. When someone is genuinely being racist or insightful people will be less likely to listen to your argument.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 6, 2009 3:41 PM
It wasn't a racist taunt aimed at anyone.
If you really can't understand the difference then you're no where near as smart as you believe you are.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 3:42 PM
Rob, this one is hysterical as well. Most of the comments are as funny as the posts.
http://www.fupenguin.com/
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 6, 2009 3:44 PM
"I think anyone who uses words such as "idiot" or "moron"
or racist taunts aimed at other posters should be banned for a couple of weeks."
Of all the words in the English (or should I say Queen's English) Dictionary, "Idiot" and "Moron" are mild. Does someone really deserve to be banned for using THOSE two words. Come on now!
Where would we be if the Village Idiot who happens to be a Moron gets banned?
Posted by: Expert Textpert at July 6, 2009 3:44 PM
But the What IS racist AND insightful! That's why most (un-asshatted) Brooklynites get their news from What! Read the opinion polls people! The man is on FIYA!
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at July 6, 2009 3:45 PM
Wow, talk about a bad spell-check error. Changes the entire context:
Insightful = Incitefull
Which is probably not even a real word hence the spell check wanting to change it on me.
Regardless, I hope you understand what I meant.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 6, 2009 3:47 PM
Dave, he is too busy blowing BHO (as per his own words) to realize the difference.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at July 6, 2009 3:47 PM
F' ed up that I used the mispelled one to check my spelling against! LOL
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at July 6, 2009 3:48 PM
ROFL.
Actually that one IS a real word. Just SO not what I wanted to say.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 6, 2009 3:50 PM
Say Hello to Underachieving
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/05/fashion/05summer.html?_r=1
Will Ehrenfeld, right, a Tufts senior, hoped for a White House summer internship but ended up with no job. He’s shown with Josh, his brother, a college graduate who is also jobless.
See Retards 'Someday this war is gonna end...' The inertia has collapsed from the Mutant Asset Bubble!
"She ended up starring in a real-life version of the movie “Adventureland” instead. In that recent comedy, a recent college graduate is forced by economic hardship to work at a suburban amusement park."
Wow you mean I can't move to Brooklyn anymore ROTFLMMFAO!
You know something Retards-- I forgot how much fun it is to torment you!
The "Cut and Paste" hurts right????
The What (Suck my balls all of you)
Someday this war is gonna end...
"You you agree Dave should be banned for using the "N Word" right??!!"
Posted by: Return of The What at July 6, 2009 3:51 PM
im really not liking the american apparel ads. grrr
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 6, 2009 3:57 PM
Now that's inciteful, insightful, vaguely racist/classist and I LOVE IT! Nothing lasts like hate...
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at July 6, 2009 3:57 PM
"im really not liking the american apparel ads. grrr"
They're definitely unique.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at July 6, 2009 4:00 PM
> You know something Retards
A Mentally Challanged individual will be highly offended by the use of the word 'Retards'
> The What (Suck my balls all of you)
I'm offended by this as I don't think the what has any balls!
Posted by: Expert Textpert at July 6, 2009 4:01 PM
"The What (Suck my balls all of you)"
This always adds credence to your arguments, What
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 4:02 PM
"I'm offended by this as I don't think the what has any balls!"
Of course not. It was established last week that the What is actually my daughter. I'm proud of my little girl!
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at July 6, 2009 4:03 PM
I would have been the first one to ask that dave be banned if he used the N-word as an insult. He didn't- he referred to it to compare it to another shameful word. He did not call anyone the N-word. He did not use the N-word as a label. Frankly I would have spelled out the word I was called when I talked about what I experienced being in an interracial marriage, except I was sure it would bring down a firestorm of misplaced rage from you on my head too.
Slopefarm wrote a very honest and also respectful post to you, What. No one wants you banned but most of us are are tired of getting bludgeoned by your anger if we disagree with you. Some people are willing to let anything you say slide- I'm not. Not because I don't respect you- that's far from the case- but because you have a brain and we would rather the discussion be an honest one, even if it pisses you off.
Posted by: bxgrl at July 6, 2009 4:04 PM
You all should read that NYT article if you haven't already - if it was posted on Brownstoner it would get 100+ comments.
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at July 6, 2009 4:05 PM
here comes the July 6th fireworks - this one can be viewed from anywhere as long as you have internet access
Posted by: more4less at July 6, 2009 4:06 PM
What NYT article?
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at July 6, 2009 4:06 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/05/fashion/05summer.html?hpw
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at July 6, 2009 4:11 PM
Hey, gentlemen...can any of you recommend a good place to get nice cufflinks that aren't expensive? I'd prefer some place that has a website that I can look at before I go to their physical store. If the place is only a website that's fine too.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 6, 2009 4:14 PM
okay i just read the article. oh boo hoo some self entitled adults brats have to work at an amusement park in the summer. why is it we are supposed to feel sorry for them again?
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 6, 2009 4:16 PM
Just read it. Summer jobs have been disappearing for years. Not cool internships but the more run of the mill after school/summer type jobs doing pizza delivery or working in a store. People don't like to admit this but it's ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. That's the truth, IMF policies that ruin people's lives in other countries also take away jobs right here. I don't blame the immigrants (criminals), they're just looking for a better life. No it's the white-guilt feeling privelaged liberals that want to sell out the poor and the young here in this country so that we can have open borders.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at July 6, 2009 4:16 PM
"Hey, gentlemen...can any of you recommend a good place to get nice cufflinks that aren't expensive? I'd prefer some place that has a website that I can look at before I go to their physical store. If the place is only a website that's fine too."
Snappy - Tiffany's has some decent sterling cufflinks that aren't too expensive.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 6, 2009 4:18 PM
snappy you can borrow my Hello Kitty cufflinks if you want. (i dont think they officially licensed San Rio tho), i think they are knockoffs.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 6, 2009 4:19 PM
Insert, Century 21 has some nice cuff links and at bargain prices. They sometimes get the fun ones from Kenneth Cole. I picked up a pair that were scooters.
Posted by: Expert Textpert at July 6, 2009 4:21 PM
joe, dave provides employment opporunity to hundreds and hundreds of illegal immigrants. ahhaha sorry. hahah
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 6, 2009 4:21 PM
Snappy, you could also try looking on etsy.com
There are quite of lot of small time jewelers who make them by hand.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 6, 2009 4:22 PM
The What couldn't even elaborate on the Henry Hudson anniv w/o anger. Inciteful is the right word.
Posted by: Arkady at July 6, 2009 4:23 PM
"People don't like to admit this but it's ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. "
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!! You're a fool! Thanks Joe for proving my point about Brownstoner! The other Retard in the picture has a DEGREE!!! What does this have to do with "ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION"???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I don't blame the immigrants (criminals), they're just looking for a better life. No it's the white-guilt feeling privelaged liberals that want to sell out the poor and the young here in this country so that we can have open borders."
ROTFLMMFAO!! Joe from Brooklyn??? Anyway this is the type of filth you defend here HYPOCRITES!
I want to see the response..
The What (Joe is the new bitch)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 6, 2009 4:23 PM
Expert, I was at Century yesterday (Miss you BRG!!!) and didn't see any :(
DH, Tiffany is outta my price range!
Rob, where did you find Hello Kitty cufflinks? I want some!!!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 6, 2009 4:24 PM
eBay has some good, cheap ones too.
Posted by: Arkady at July 6, 2009 4:24 PM
Thousands of cufflinks on ebay.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 4:26 PM
Allright...Etsy and Ebay it is.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 6, 2009 4:26 PM
Would we hire illegal immigrants if American-born folks didn't think certain types of jobs were beneath them?
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at July 6, 2009 4:27 PM
"DH, Tiffany is outta my price range!"
I think they are only like $100 and they are very shiny!!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 6, 2009 4:28 PM
Just a hint. On Etsy, search for 'cufflinks' then filter by price high to low and zero in on your price range. It's the only was to sort them without making yourself crazy.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 6, 2009 4:28 PM
"Thousands of cufflinks on ebay."
DIBS, is that where you picked up this pair you wore at the last gathering?
http://tinyurl.com/mnu973
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 4:28 PM
I stand by my opinion, no matter what kind of hot mess it creates. What, you would call your own Daddy a bad name like that! For shame! I'm no longer getting you that training bra you asked for... we'll see how you like it with lace panties and no matching top!
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at July 6, 2009 4:29 PM
Wait...I gotta set up an ebay account and paypal to buy something from there?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 6, 2009 4:29 PM
"Would we hire illegal immigrants if American-born folks didn't think certain types of jobs were beneath them?"
I know a gravedigger who feels his job is beneath him.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 4:29 PM
snappy, ted baker and bluefly has some unique cuff links.
http://www.tedbaker.com/shop.do?cID=605
http://www.bluefly.com/Designer-Mens-Cufflinks/_/N-foy/list.fly
Posted by: DeLepp at July 6, 2009 4:30 PM
Insert, which one were you at? There's an entire case of Cuff Links at the one in Bay Ridge (it was there as of last week - Men's section, against a column, facing the PJ's/underwear)!!!
I love cuff links and always look at them when I'm there. Go back and ask for them. Prices are great.
Posted by: Expert Textpert at July 6, 2009 4:30 PM
I just saw some Jim Morrison cuff links on etsy.com....I swear if I can get my hands on some Bea Arthur cuff links I'll be dancing down Flatbush Avenue...jacked up foot and all!!!!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 6, 2009 4:31 PM
> The What (Joe is the new bitch)
Female dogs will be offended by the use of the word 'Bitch' towards a man!
Posted by: Expert Textpert at July 6, 2009 4:32 PM
joe from brooklyn- I honestly think you and your family need to go back to whatever motherland spawned you. I was especially taken by the juxtaposition of "immigrants (criminals)". I could delve into what really damaged this country but people like you are too blind to get it. Hint: It ain't Liberals.
Go get him, What.
Posted by: bxgrl at July 6, 2009 4:32 PM
Some eBay sellers let you send a check but transaction takes longer. Wonder if anyone at the flea sells them.
Posted by: Arkady at July 6, 2009 4:33 PM
Nobody noticed that American Apparel seems to win the award for the most illegal immigrants in one factory? lol. But hey, it's Made in America!
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/03/us/03immig.html
Someone didn't like one of their ads when the Smith Street store opened...
http://www.pbase.com/dentontay/image/81881809
Speaking of 1 Bryant Park, a shot of some workers napping on their lunch break 58 floors up.
http://www.pbase.com/dentontay/image/98115167
Posted by: denton at July 6, 2009 4:34 PM
You'd be surprised at how many "beneath me" jobs I held while in HS and college.
Not trying to place all the blame on illegals but, I don't see white teenage girls in those jobs these days.
Could it be that parents are making their kids do stuff that would enhance a college application instead? Maybe now kids DO think these jobs are beneath them. We'd become quite the indulgent society until this economy hit and set us all straight with a hard lined reality check.
I don't know. Point is, I think there are a lot of factors in place one of them certainly is the illegal immigrant factor.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 6, 2009 4:34 PM
I really don't think that illegal immigrants have taken jobs away from Americans who are interested in working. I do believe that some line has to be drawn when a larger corporation hires them so that they don't have to pay benefits. Many restaurants and other small businesses could not exist around the country without them.
The whole system is f*&*&ed up as to how to deal with the millions that are here. Did you know that in 2007, Mexicans working in the US sent back $26B to mexico.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 4:34 PM
Expert, perhaps I missed it due to the throngs of bargain hunters out there on Sunday. I'll go back during the week and try my luck.
DeLepp, thanks for the tips!
Biffy...PLEASE!!! You must warn when a site is not safe for work!!! You should have seen me scrambling to close that browser window w/ the lap taffy cuffs!!! YIKES!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 6, 2009 4:34 PM
Snappy, the best I could do was find these pendants for you:
http://tinyurl.com/nb5dll
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 4:35 PM
Insert, www.overstock.com also has cufflinks, check under jewelry.
While I don't like department stores, I would imagine they would have cuff links.
Posted by: Expert Textpert at July 6, 2009 4:36 PM
Expert, do you know if C21 has sterling silver ones? How are the prices on them?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 6, 2009 4:36 PM
I would like to thank everyone here at Brownstoner for proving my points. Other people can conduct Covert Race/Class Warfare but when 'The What' say something I'm attacked from all side. Slopefarm this is my "Illustration" for today, I hope you understand my point and if not, I really don't care.
The What (I know where to get some beautiful cufflinks)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 6, 2009 4:37 PM
Sorry about that, Snappy! Perhaps you could just say they were rockets? The subsequent link is quite clean. I'll give a warning next time.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 4:38 PM
Biff.....one of my old rent boys now has a union job at a cemetery.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 4:38 PM
Snappy, there's always Brooks Brothers for cufflinks, and the shirts that go with them.
Posted by: denton at July 6, 2009 4:38 PM
"Go get him, What.
Posted by: bxgrl at July 6, 2009 4:32 PM"
F******* You and everyone else! I fight my own wars Hypocrite!
The What (M-4 at the ready)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 6, 2009 4:39 PM
Any cab drivers out there that wear cuff links?
These are cute.
http://www.kennethcole.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3442566&cp=3075215.3075278.3075287
Posted by: Expert Textpert at July 6, 2009 4:40 PM
if one wears cufflinks, is it expected that their shirts are premo brands and also has their initials or monograms on it?
Posted by: more4less at July 6, 2009 4:41 PM
"I really don't think that illegal immigrants have taken jobs away from Americans who are interested in working. I do believe that some line has to be drawn when a larger corporation hires them so that they don't have to pay benefits. Many restaurants and other small businesses could not exist around the country without them."
I totally disagree. These days a LOT of families aren't in the same financial position they were in when buying kids closets full of designer clothes, gaming systems and cars were the norm. Whether they had the money to begin with or were just allowed to rack up gobstopping amounts of debt by lenders is still in question.
Now, I bet a lot of teens wouldn't mind scooping ice cream at the DQ or delivering pizza. I'm serious too. I personally know a lot of parents who have closed the cash tap and the kids are NOT finding summer jobs. There are 5 families on this block alone who have become single income families. They all have kids and essentially they have been told if they want money they need to work.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 6, 2009 4:42 PM
The day started with posts about why the media covers Michael Jackson instead of dead soldiers and ends with 100 cufflink posts interspersed between 20 illegal immigration posts! I'm too lazy to actually count...that's randi's job.
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at July 6, 2009 4:43 PM
Illegal immigrants are not the real problem. I worked some godawful summer jobs but I can just see the look on the faces of my friend's kids if anyone suggested they clean up vomit in the bathroom of a holiday inn or make the beds up, or scrub the toilet bowl out as part of the job.
Most summer jobs are low pay and not that wonderful. So kids today don't want to do them- they have "standards".
Posted by: bxgrl at July 6, 2009 4:43 PM
Yes, bxgrl, What is VERY choosy as to what he will fight as far as racism. If it doesn't directly affect his own personal situation he's not interested in taking a stand.
He makes his own hatred even more obvious when this happens.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 4:43 PM
I forgot all about overstock. I'll check that out too. I just want to get several pair of nice sterling silver ones, nothing too fancy, but pretty enough. Since I plan to buy several pair I don't want to spend a lot.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 6, 2009 4:43 PM
Yes, m4l. What kind of shirts do you wear your cufflinks with??? Custom made and monogrammed.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 4:45 PM
Insert, Not sure if Century has Sterling (worth a look though) as I tend not to like the conservative ones but more cute fun ones.
Overstock def. has sterling (I bought a few there).
Posted by: Expert Textpert at July 6, 2009 4:47 PM
"Could it be that parents are making their kids do stuff that would enhance a college application instead? Maybe now kids DO think these jobs are beneath them."
I think there's some truth to that, THL. Working in MickeyD's don't cut it on the college app, you need to go to Honduras and build some houses and sh*t, for community service, even if you've never picked up a saw in your life. So it's only the poor kids that don't have the air fare to Honduras that work in McDonald's.
Then again I heard from the street a while ago that some kids will do food but not fried food.
But I've also heard a few employers see value in kidz dealing with, and getting dumped on, by the general public.
So, to cover all bases, I made sure my kid worked one summer at Subway's on 5th Ave, and another summer went to Colombia for the summer, you know, for the community service credits.
Posted by: denton at July 6, 2009 4:47 PM
sixyears, nice observation. But it sort of gets to Rob's point about how it's hard to continue to deal with serious topics all day long when we have enough bad news these days.
*throws a cannister of Pringles to sixyears*
Biff
(Someday my poor late afternoon snacking habits will end)
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 4:47 PM
Excuse me if am wrong but aren't all those illegals paying into a social security system of which they'll never get any benefits?
Posted by: DeLepp at July 6, 2009 4:47 PM
For all those who think I should go back to "the motherland which spewed me out.", this only proves my point. The most racist rhetoric in the immigration debate is coming from HISPANIC SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS. Groups like La raza (google the plan of San Diego) are nothing but HISPANIC KLU KLUX KLAN type groups that english-speaking "gringos" need to learn about. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, certain LABOR UNIONS (Yes Dave)and these racist pro-immigartion lobbies are what's behind this, not hardworking immigrants (who are criminals for crossing international borders illegally, much like Bush was wrong when he invaded Iraq.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at July 6, 2009 4:48 PM
"They all have kids and essentially they have been told if they want money they need to work. "
Hell, my heart bleeds for those poor kids... Welcome to the real world.
Posted by: denton at July 6, 2009 4:49 PM
There's a poster with the name "big swinging nick" in the iron gates thread. I'd say that's right up there with bowl of dicks, big jugs, i haz two toilets, and heck of a job brownie!
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at July 6, 2009 4:49 PM
DIBS, own no cufflinks. no shirts with monograms. no shirt over $25. work attire is super casual, un-hip, ... - picture what an old engineer wears to work
Posted by: more4less at July 6, 2009 4:49 PM
I find it funny there is no "Semantic" connection of illegal immigrants when talking about the Eurotrash that washes up on our shores! Do they take some jobs from Megan and Josh?? Or maybe there are not enough jobs anymore because we are in a DEPRESSION????
No one takes Joe to task for his comments huh?
The What (Muck the sack)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 6, 2009 4:49 PM
Yes, THL, THESE days things are different. That's also why border crossings are down and why a lot less money was sent to Mexico in 2008 and it'll be even less in 2009.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 4:50 PM
Oh well- so much for me thinking optimistically the What still had some brain cells left. My mistake- He's scum. But since he can't seem to leave b'stoner, he's still Jon's bitch.
Posted by: bxgrl at July 6, 2009 4:50 PM
Oh! I want some Pringles (too bad stupid had to leave all her groceries back at the supermarket after forgetting to bring some form of payment- DUH).
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 6, 2009 4:50 PM
Thanks for the Pringles, Biff, and I totally agree. Why take the fun out of life?
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at July 6, 2009 4:50 PM
"Excuse me if am wrong but aren't all those illegals paying into a social security system of which they'll never get any benefits?"
Tricky question DL but if they are working under a fake SS card then the answer is yes. If they are being paid 'off the books' in cash then no.
Posted by: denton at July 6, 2009 4:51 PM
ROTFLMMFAO Where do these Assnuts come from??
Joe take your meds, bitch!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
Posted by: Return of The What at July 6, 2009 4:53 PM
Hmmm...my shirts are the expensive brands purchased at a lower price (love the C21 men's dress shirt dept!) Will nice cuff links look ridiculous with those shirts?
**eagerly trying to avoid the whole immigrant argument - argh**
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 6, 2009 4:53 PM
Snappy, no comment on my Serena post way up above?
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 4:55 PM
"Hmmm...my shirts are the expensive brands purchased at a lower price (love the C21 men's dress shirt dept!) Will nice cuff links look ridiculous with those shirts?"
Correct me if I'm wrong people who actually wear proper clothes to work - but I was always under the impression french cuff shirts/cufflinks should not be worn unless a suit jacket was being worn with them.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 6, 2009 4:55 PM
"Oh well- so much for me thinking optimistically the What still had some brain cells left."
LMMFAO Wont you be.. wont you be.. Please wont you be my neighbor.....?
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 6, 2009 4:56 PM
> Where do these Assnuts come from??
Assnuts are under the Asshead.
Posted by: Expert Textpert at July 6, 2009 4:56 PM
Joyce DeWitt (janet from three's company) was arrested for drunk driving on july 4th! her mugshot is hysterical
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at July 6, 2009 4:56 PM
JFB- "spawned"- not spewed. You need to know the difference. I also think its hysterically funny that you think anyone pro-immigration is racist. Or that you compare illegal immigration to Bush invading Iraq. I would write a list out for you as to what is wrong and offensive with that cmparison, but again, i fear you wouldn't get it anyway.
Posted by: bxgrl at July 6, 2009 4:57 PM
Biff, I missed the match :( I'll have to catch the highlights online when I get home. What was she wearing?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 6, 2009 4:57 PM
No thanks, What- I like human beings for neighbors.
Posted by: bxgrl at July 6, 2009 4:58 PM
**eagerly trying to avoid the whole immigrant argument - argh**
You cufflink wearing wuss you!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 6, 2009 4:58 PM
complete bs that illegal immigrants are taking away jobs from permanent residents. if permanent residents show up to apply for those jobs, no way an english speaking, legal applicant would lose out to an non-english speaking, illegal applicant. those jobs are crappy, low paying, long hours,.. and most of the time, that's the only ones these illegal immigrants can get. if you're permanent resident and you need to take one of those crappy jobs, you f'd up big a long time ago and hence why you have to settle for this kind of crappy job.
Posted by: more4less at July 6, 2009 5:01 PM
Lets take a look shall we...
I posted a story about Asshats having problems finding job and Joe from Brooklyn started to spew Xenophobic Racist Garbage and no one has taken him to task for it but 'The What' just "copy and pastes" something and the Retards go Ape S***!!!! So at this point (SLOPEFARM WHERE ARE YOU??!!) you have show me the true colors of Brownstoner, nice job 'tards!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 6, 2009 5:02 PM
Joe, you told us to google "Plan of San Diego". I'm sure an extremist group from the 1910s developed a master plan for killing all gringos that almost 100 years later is still the Mexican government's agenda for retaking its lost territories. Furthermore, thousands of unsuspecting American Hispanics are part of this conspiracy in organizations like La Raza and MECHA. Sorry, I'm unconvinced.
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at July 6, 2009 5:03 PM
Snappy, it was something along these lines. She's such a goddess!
http://www.mkrob.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/serena1.jpg
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 5:03 PM
LOL THL!!!
DH, I do have on a suit with my nice shirts! Sometimes I even wear a tie :) (obvious lesbo) :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 6, 2009 5:04 PM
Yes, what, nobody - not a single one of us Asshats - has taken Joe to task.
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at July 6, 2009 5:04 PM
Biff, to that photo, all I can say is
Ha-cha-cha!!!
Those are the kind of thighs you wanna use as earmuffs in the winter :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 6, 2009 5:05 PM
Looks like Overstock.com will be the winner for my cufflinks...gorgeous and cheap!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 6, 2009 5:06 PM
DH, cufflinks don't need suits/jackets any more. Some of the shirts etro comes out with would never work with a suit. Jeans and cufflinks are OK now.
Posted by: DeLepp at July 6, 2009 5:07 PM
Hey What- excuse me but several of us did- as you would know if you would actually read. But I hope for too much. Asking What to act intelligently is like asking a mouse to piss on cotton to make music.
Posted by: bxgrl at July 6, 2009 5:07 PM
haha cool snappy! your question just reminded me about that debate a friend and I had a while ago.
Sounds like you go to work pretty spiffy everday!! ;)
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 6, 2009 5:08 PM
M4L- It's kids that take these jobs. Kids with no resumes. Those are the jobs I used to do when in HS and College. I'm telling you, I have 4 teenagers on my block that can NOT find summer jobs and there parents are NOT giving them money because there's none to give. One went to stay with his gandmother and she's paying him some money to help her fix stuff around the house. Tell me how many kids you know want to go down south to help grandma for the summer?
There are a lot more people looking for these low-end low-pay jobs and they aren't out there. People didn't worry about i so much when a lot of folks could bank roll their kids lifestyles now, it's different.
Again, not saying it's all the fault of illegals but it DOES play a factor. Absolutely.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 6, 2009 5:08 PM
> Biff, to that photo, all I can say is
Ha-cha-cha!!!
Insert, forget about looking for cufflinks and start looking for handcuffs.
Ha-cha-cha!!!
;-)
Posted by: Expert Textpert at July 6, 2009 5:10 PM
DH, on days I have to go to court I'm in a full suit. On office-only days I wear almost the same thing, just no jacket.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 6, 2009 5:11 PM
"Asking What to act intelligently is like asking a mouse to piss on cotton to make music."
I have never heard that expression before in my life. I'm making a note of that one!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 6, 2009 5:11 PM
Gotcha Delepp - thanks! i never saw anything wrong with it but one day a friend called me out haha
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 6, 2009 5:12 PM
Expert, you got it!!! Anyone got the furry kind I can borrow? Dave? (If Dave doesn't own a pair, that sound you hear is hell freezing over!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at July 6, 2009 5:12 PM
"People didn't worry about i so much when a lot of folks could bank roll their kids lifestyles now, it's different. "
Parents who do that are not doing the right thing. Rich kids need to develop a work ethic too. Isn't it funny how conservatives are always telling 'the poor' that they need to develop a work ethic? So does Muffy, it appears.
My kid had to do production work at my biz on weekends since she was 11. That's on your knees, manual labor, immigrant style work. She hated it. So I told her to go to college if she didn't want to do it. Soon as she was 14, she had to work every summer, either something we got her or in the nabe.
And while she's currently unemployed, she has a tremendous work ethic.
Posted by: denton at July 6, 2009 5:16 PM
Groups like Mecha and La Raza have promoted ideas od Aztlan which the Nazi's tried to use to their advantage to convince Mexicans to stand up for the "Brown Race" and kill white americans in border areas during WWII. Could you imagine if a group of whites called itself "the Race" and applied for gov't funding and got it! Calling white people names like Euro-trash, etc,. just continues to prove my point. I say SOME, particularly groups LEADING this Pro-Illegal Alien agenda are racist and you retort with Euro-trash, go back to your country,etc. It's funny you think you're being pro-Hispanic when you're BEING MANIPULATED BY A BUNCH OF RICH WHITES WHO WANT CHEAP LABOR! A permanant brown underclass, quite an acheivement. So while the Republicrats run game on you I will fight for the rights of ALL AMERICANS regardless of race, the right to not compete with slave labor whether it's here or in China.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at July 6, 2009 5:20 PM
I think immigration as in general is a good thing, but I don't think it is racist to oppose illegal immigration, as some posts seem to assume.
Posted by: etson at July 6, 2009 5:22 PM
I don't think anything Joe has said is racist. You're all arguing the same pt - just different perpectives.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 6, 2009 5:24 PM
Again, not saying it's all the fault of illegals but it DOES play a factor. Absolutely.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 6, 2009 5:08 PM
Yes yes please come out of the closet.. Come on I know you can do it...
Every day here is a new experience for me. I get get to prove Covert Race/Class Warfare and I don't have to do anything and you want me to "Hang out" with at a Brownstoner get together?
You're low-life human garbage just like Joe..
The What (Suck it well..)
Someday this war is gonna end..
Posted by: Return of The What at July 6, 2009 5:25 PM
I agree with dh...joe's just making a pretty standard point. albeit in our NYC-bubble of thinking where we know more than anyone else, it's hard for some people to listen to it.
Posted by: infinitejester at July 6, 2009 5:26 PM
Couldn't agree more Denton.
hat's a sure fire way to have them get into trouble later. I hate to go to an Oprah reference but she's had a few shows regarding over indulgent 'never say no' parents and the after effects it's had on them and the kids. The kids assume that their starting pay salaries are going to afford them the lifestyle they're accustom to.
It's also causes a lot of guilt and resentment on the parents end once they realize that the kids have no idea how to manage money and have now as young adults begun to get themselves into debt that the enablers oops I meant parents are, of course, cleaning up for them but getting angry that they have to. Crazy.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 6, 2009 5:27 PM
THL, my point is if permanent residents (ie the kids you're talking about) applied to those jobs when the opening popped up, they most likely would've beated out the non-english speaking illegal immigrants. The fact they didn't apply when the opennings popped up, they cant blame the immigrants for taking them (ie you can't claim to have lost something when you chose to NOT to be in mix).
Posted by: more4less at July 6, 2009 5:27 PM
What,is that the same mouth you use to blow your father?
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at July 6, 2009 5:28 PM
"A permanant brown underclass, quite an acheivement. So while the Republicrats run game on you I will fight for the rights of ALL AMERICANS regardless of race, the right to not compete with slave labor whether it's here or in China."
Shaddup....
The What (Joe miss his Med schedule)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 6, 2009 5:29 PM
> The What (Suck it well..)
What, you left out a letter in the above.
The What (Sucks it well..)
Posted by: Expert Textpert at July 6, 2009 5:30 PM
Joe does make a reasonable point, and his conclusions aren't entirely out of mainstream thinking, but his focus on La Raza and Mecha (which in my high school in San Diego promoted innocuous things like after school tutoring and applying to college - oh the horror!) is out of line. Yes, there are extreme elements in those groups. Joe makes them out to be some sort of Mexican al-Qaeda, but like al-Qaeda, they're a tiny minority.
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at July 6, 2009 5:31 PM
"I think immigration as in general is a good thing, but I don't think it is racist to oppose illegal immigration, as some posts seem to assume."
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Hypocrisy is the act of pretending that one has beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities or standards that they do not actually have; this is usually done in order to mask their actual motives or feelings; falseness.
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 6, 2009 5:35 PM
That may be true but it's the origins of the group and its national leadership that I'm talking about. I have some MAJOR issues w/ the Catholic Church but I don't think the Monsignor over at my old parish is in on some kind of conspiracy. Most special interest groups/churches/associations/fraternal orders are like that
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at July 6, 2009 5:37 PM
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- That's what she said
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 5:37 PM
Hypocrite (see politician)
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at July 6, 2009 5:38 PM
The problem isn't illegal immigration - the problem is making it illegal for people who live in this country to work.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 6, 2009 5:38 PM
What,
I belatedly heard your call. I was dealing with work, so just catching up. Yeah, Joe spewed some garbage. I can't speak for anyone else, but sometimes I find it best to ignore a jerk like that. He said some bigoted sh*t just to put himself in the middle of a brownstoner kerfuffle. But I don't think it shows that the brownstoner community is engaged in an exercise in race/class warfare if they don't actively jump all over a comment like that. Seriously, I imagine there have been times in your life when you experienced bigoted slights, or heard bigotry directed to others, and you decided not to dignify it with a response rather than go after it directly. Doesn't make you a bigot.
Posted by: slopefarm at July 6, 2009 5:39 PM
sarcasm biff
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 6, 2009 5:39 PM
oh i get it
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 6, 2009 5:40 PM
joe- aren't you assuming What had a father?
I'm not saying you don't have some points-but this country needs to be much more realistic about immigration, and much more compassionate. The illegals I see have the worst, lowest paying jobs- not because they want them. No one else does. They had a contractor gut reno the house next door to me for section 8 residents. Those guys worked under truly horrible conditions including not one single dust mask. Try telling a teenager he can work for minimum wage in filthy and unsafe conditions with no, even minimal protection from 7 am to 9 pm. Lets see how many jump at the chance.
And if they were legalized, they would pay taxes- as it is, even as illegals they pay money- they buy food, rent housing, buy clothes and gas. A lot of small businesses who do pay taxes, depend on them. But by going after them, we spend millions in pursuit, we lose revenue we could be gettig if they were legal, and any number of other less than beneficial results.
Posted by: bxgrl at July 6, 2009 5:40 PM
> oh i get it
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
- Posted by: Return of The What at July 6, 2009 5:40 PM
Ding ding ding Thank you!
But do you really?
Posted by: Expert Textpert at July 6, 2009 5:43 PM
You know those empty factories in Williamsburg and Greenpoint have a lot more to do with why there are no jobs than illegal immigrants. I just want everyone who wants to to be able to make a life for themself, no matter who they are or where they're from. De-industrialization is making this harder and harder to do. People in this country need to make things again. Illegal immigration is a bad sympton of a race to the bottom but it's not the cause, the race (to the bottom) itself is the cause and that affects everyone here.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at July 6, 2009 5:44 PM
"I have some MAJOR issues w/ the Catholic Church but I don't think the Monsignor over at my old parish is in on some kind of conspiracy."
Have you asked gay men and women in California who want gay marriage what they think about that? Prop 8 wasn't a conspiracy of religious organizations to deny rights to gays? Seems it was to me.
Posted by: bxgrl at July 6, 2009 5:44 PM
The What,
Which statement did you think was hypocritical? Both reflect my actual views.
Are you accusing me of being hypocritical because I am a legal immigrant who supports legal immigration, but can see both sides of the argument re illegal immigration?
I can't see how that is inconsistent at all.
Or were you assuming I am a racist and that I oppose all immigration? That would hardly be consistent with my own status.
Posted by: etson at July 6, 2009 5:44 PM
What, I couldn't resist. By the way, you joined late today, so not sure if you saw my thank you to you above regarding your posts to me and cobblehiller last week.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 5:44 PM
bxgrl - it's amazing how truly skilled some of those 'day laborers' that contractors hire.
Out in Farmingville, LI - there is a huge illegal immigrant population of day laborers who are taking steps to unionize. About 5 years ago there was a string of assaults where people would pick them up from the 7-11 parking lot where they gather and take t hem to an abandoned building and beat them within an inch of their lives.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at July 6, 2009 5:45 PM
What-
There's a big distinction. We are not discussing immigrants. We are discussing individuals who are here illegally.
You talk about class warfare. How about the lower class Americans (you know, the ones in the ghetto) who are being let go and replaced by illegals because they don't have to be paid minimum wage, they can't join a union, they can't collect unemployment, they can't get disability insurance should they be injured at work.
What about that class warfare?
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 6, 2009 5:47 PM
I think the US made a huge mistake in allowing an overabundance of legal Canadian immigrants in the 90s.
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 5:47 PM
I'm pro-gay marriage. But only for whites.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at July 6, 2009 5:48 PM
Slopefarn If put you on mute then you will accuse me of not confronting the issue.
Name a time where I said "I hate white people or C*******s"???? You cant!
My issue is with Gentrification and the Knuckleheads engaging in Covert Race/Class Warfare, end of story! Joe from Brooklyn is talking nonsense and some of the posters agree with him! Re-read todays Open Post because it's proves my point. Ever since Dave's "N Word" Dust-Up No one here will EVER get to see thing differently Slopefarm. This the last time we will have any dialogue so if you don't get my point then too f*** bad, I can't help you...
The What
Somedasy this war is gonna end..
Posted by: Return of The What at July 6, 2009 5:48 PM
"What, I couldn't resist. By the way, you joined late today, so not sure if you saw my thank you to you above regarding your posts to me and cobblehiller last week."
Yeah Biff but the Weapon System was fully armed and at that time the computer overrides communications! Thanks Biff..
The What (Target Acquisition in progress...)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 6, 2009 5:51 PM
> I'm pro-gay marriage. But only for whites.
OMG!!!!!! I'm at a loss for words.
Posted by: Expert Textpert at July 6, 2009 5:51 PM
"I'm pro-gay marriage. But only for whites."
That's racist wishing the pain of marriage only on white people!
Posted by: Biff Champion at July 6, 2009 5:55 PM
Is the What at the Target over at Erskine blvd?
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at July 6, 2009 5:55 PM
I'm going to assume he was joking Text.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 6, 2009 5:55 PM
Oh Slopefarm The whole Illegal Immigrant dust-up began when I posted this story!
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/05/fashion/05summer.html?hpw
Go read the article and get back to me. How in the hell the connection was made?????
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at July 6, 2009 5:56 PM
I am hoping he was being sarcastic, expert.
Posted by: bxgrl at July 6, 2009 5:56 PM
JOKING zzzt. (sound like computer from Star Trek)
Polit-ical zzt correctness choking hu-mor zzt.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at July 6, 2009 5:57 PM
am I the only one who just cant reference BRG under this new ID?
Posted by: more4less at July 6, 2009 5:58 PM
Good night all (and I mean everyone!)
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at July 6, 2009 5:59 PM
Snappy - If you're desperate, I used to make cufflinks out of buttons - just leave a lot of thread between a pair of buttons & wrap thread around the sort of stem thingy that's left.
Posted by: Arkady at July 6, 2009 5:59 PM
I'm hoping also. I didn't read all of Joe's posts. I lightly scanned them so not sure what his take is.
Posted by: Expert Textpert at July 6, 2009 6:00 PM
Got it, Joe.
Posted by: Expert Textpert at July 6, 2009 6:02 PM
"www.overstock.com"
This company is run by a racist jerk. Do not shop here.
Posted by: East New York at July 6, 2009 6:11 PM
ENY- what's the story?
Posted by: bxgrl at July 6, 2009 6:13 PM
"There are 5 families on this block alone who have become single income families. They all have kids and essentially they have been told if they want money they need to work."
So, they've got to come up with a way to make money. ANY type of job will do, or some money-making idea of their own. What makes these kids so special that they shouldn't have to apply themselves even if it is tough to find work? Scapegoating ANYONE is just an excuse.
"those jobs are crappy, low paying, long hours,.. and most of the time, that's the only ones these illegal immigrants can get. "
M4L is right. Americans don't want the lowest-paying jobs, and won't work for the $ ilegal immigrants will to get that job.
"I'm telling you, I have 4 teenagers on my block that can NOT find summer jobs and there parents are NOT giving them money because there's none to give."
Two words: Car wash.
"How about the lower class Americans (you know, the ones in the ghetto) who are being let go and replaced by illegals because they don't have to be paid minimum wage, they can't join a union, they can't collect unemployment, they can't get disability insurance should they be injured at work."
I don't buy it. "Lower class Americans" have MANY advantages illegal immigrants don't. If they find themselves competing for the LOWEST level of jobs, with illegal immigrants, and haven't acquired the skills to get ahead, I can't feel sorry for them.
Posted by: East New York at July 6, 2009 6:34 PM
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1917174/posts
Posted by: East New York at July 6, 2009 6:38 PM
ENY- wow. Burn those kids? Er....like in ...I won't even say it. What a moron that guy is. Shortsighted, and abysmally stupid. I will never buy on overstock.com ever again.
Posted by: bxgrl at July 6, 2009 6:48 PM
WOW...I missed most of that illegal immigrant discussion and I probably know more illegal immigrants than any of you.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 6:50 PM
And consider many of them good friends.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 6:50 PM
I missed it too! Great to see Mr xenophobic, the nativist par excellence, everyone-get-out-of-my hood ranter shout down others by taking the moral high ground in support of illegal immigration and then shout out "hypocrite". Classic.
I hope he'll post tomorrow about how he's disgusted with everyone on this board and that his napalm is nearly cooked or whatever.
Posted by: dittoburg at July 6, 2009 6:55 PM
I thought you preferred your bad friends dave?
Posted by: dittoburg at July 6, 2009 6:56 PM
When they are bad, they are even better!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 6, 2009 6:58 PM
Jobs I've done:
dirty laundry pick up at hospital
carpet warehouse carpet-lugger
cold store packer
garbage transfer station shoveller
stable boy (just mucking out basically)
veterinary surgery cleaner
oh it goes on and on...
Posted by: dittoburg at July 6, 2009 7:03 PM
ENY:
So let me get this straight, you say:
"So, they've got to come up with a way to make money. ANY type of job will do, or some money-making idea of their "own. What makes these kids so special that they shouldn't have to apply themselves even if it is tough to find work? Scapegoating ANYONE is just an excuse."
"If they find themselves competing for the LOWEST level of jobs, with illegal immigrants, and haven't acquired the skills to get ahead, I can't feel sorry for them."
Two words: Car wash."
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Contradicting yourself. In one breath you say 'what makes these kids so special they shouldn't apply themselves'. In the next you laud them for trying to get low end jobs and not having acquired the skill sets. Then your grand idea is a Car Wash?
YES! Great idea. that's exactly how they'll learn great skills that are real resume builders.
How can you possibly be serious? You'd rather see someone that is in the country illegally, earning the money and sending it out of the country without contributing taxes like you and I get a job delivering pizzas, busing tables or washing dishes or any of those other jobs in a restaurants kitchen instead of some American H.S. kid who is trying to make some money cause his family is strapped. Or how about the guy that got laid off when his company folded, his unemployment is is running out and delivering pies sounds better than not having ZERO dollars coming in to feed his family.
The long held excuse for letting them come and stay in the country was because American's don't want those jobs. You know, that is partially true. Most don't. However, there are those that do. I did. When I was a kid those were the jobs I worked. My first job? Individually wrapping muffins in a bakery factory and filling palate orders.
Here's where the hard truth comes out...I along with 15 or so others were let go citing cut backs. Thing is we were replaced by illegals. I know, because one of the old timer bakers that had been let go had them busted for hiring undocumented workers. They closed down 3 months later. I didn't know, I was 15 I only found out later when my parents explained what had happened. I did know that I was busting my hump in a hot bakery trying to earn money that summer and then bam, I'm out.
There's still the 'that jobs beneath me' factor. The overindulged kid contingent, and as I stated above now college is so competitive that most kids need things other than McD's fry guy or delivery guy on their applications like major volunteer work.
And for the record. I didn't say that illegals WERE the problem. I said they were a PART of it. However, you'd be naive to say that illegals and those who employ them don't contribute to the problem.
No, better to hate on the out of work Americans and defend people who are here illegally. Good job you're very P.C.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 6, 2009 7:22 PM
What,
I can't for the life of me figure out why you went off on me. In my last comments to you I agreed with you that jfb's posts were bigoted and offered my rationale as to why I didn't bother to call him on it. I did not accuse you of racism -- quite the contrary, I made clear that I was not -- but you react as if I did. My only point, with which you seem to disagree, is that it is not class warfare not to jump down the throat of someone who makes a bigoted remark. There are many ways to respond, including not bothering.
It seems pointless to engage in a discussion with you because whenever a conversation has even the slightest chance of moving off square one into a real dialogue, you sabotage it with a gratuitous attack. For all the bravado, I think you operate from a fearful position, fearful of taking the risks required to have a meaningful dialogue and to actually listen and comprehend the positions and reasoning of those with whom you disagree, to the point where you actually make enemies of people who even agree with you on some things.
So go ahead, keep me on mute. I tried to have a dialogue, but dialogue really isn't what you want. I am always happy to converse with you if it is a real conversation, but I am not going to keep beating my head against a wall.
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Posted by: Jeff9 at July 6, 2009 11:17 PM
My 2 cents re illegal immigration - Reagan had the chance to fix it and chose instead to pass it on to future generations.
All I can is that this is just one more issue which undermines trust in how our society operates. One more straw on that camel's back.
Whatever the "truth" may be, the fact that millions of legal immigrants and citizens PERCEIVE that they are following the rules and getting screwed while someone else gets a "free ride" is just more fuel for the fire that is smoldering.
Add to that resentment over banker bailouts and it won't be a surprise to see more middle class choose to opt out of what used to be called the rat race and instead go for a smaller nicer lifestyle that, incidentally, will kick in fewer taxes. Just some thoughts...
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