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After a long discussion, multiple conference calls, emails and legal representation, Biff has allowed me to post the FGVOTD since he is on vacation.
I hope there are no further celebrity deaths this week;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tyct9l-fD8
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 9:19 AM
Billie Mays?
Posted by: dittoburg at June 29, 2009 9:22 AM
Maybe we should nominate those celebs we would like to see less of.
Posted by: DeLepp at June 29, 2009 9:24 AM
He died, ditto. He was only 50 and he had been on a US Airways flight the night before and hit his head when there was tyrbulence. They don't know if that had anything to do with his death yet.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 9:24 AM
a Natasha Richardson type thing?
Posted by: dittoburg at June 29, 2009 9:28 AM
A tragedy for him and his his family, but I won't miss the commercials with him screaming which are 25% louder than whatever is on.
Posted by: jawbreaker at June 29, 2009 9:30 AM
poor billy mays. who's next? predictions?
i saw a prediction of kasey kasem. dick clark could be in line.
Posted by: goldie at June 29, 2009 9:32 AM
I'd like to say that today marks the first day for the next 2 months where trains are free of NYC public school kids, teachers and personnel which means more seating!
yes!
Posted by: gemini10 at June 29, 2009 9:37 AM
I predict more assaults on subway employees since the fares rose $0.25 as of today.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 9:39 AM
So yesterday I took my kids to the playground behind PS 282 between Lincoln and Berkeley. There is a basketball court right next to the playground. There were a bunch of guys playing ball who stopped to smoke a big blunt, and the smoke wafted right into all the kids playing in the sprinklers. Really strong smell. I gave them the stink-eye and all, but any one of those guys could have kicked my ass so there was only so much I could do. I'm all for live and let live when it comes to that stuff, but smoking next to a playgound full of kids? Upwind? That's just fucking rude.
Posted by: lechacal at June 29, 2009 9:43 AM
Rob, except for the ones going to summer school, a category which thankfully does not include me!
I missed the Friday OT, but my best Michael-related memory is from Kerman, Iran. We were in a restaurant and one of the musicians (the group was playing traditional Persian songs) asked us where we were from. We told him, and the response was instant: "Oh, Amrika! We play for you Michael Jackson!"
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at June 29, 2009 9:50 AM
"Gonna make a change
For once in my life."
I heard on TV that the burning MJ suffered in 1984 was the start of his transformation from normal to freakish. Seemed plausible.
Posted by: infinitejester at June 29, 2009 9:54 AM
i found a metrocard with 19 bux on it on the street btw :)
which is great cuz i don't get my monthlies for another few days.
and gemini, yes the trains are so much less crowded. i took the M train this morning instead of the R since it passed and after a few stops, i was the ONLY person in the entire car. it was creepy! i thought maybe something happened and no one told me!
and remember that article about the R being the dirtiest train? i started looking around and i was like wow, it really is the skank train.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 29, 2009 9:59 AM
"That's just fucking rude."
Yeah, which was probably what they were aiming at...
Another reason to walk the few extra blocks to the park on 5th and 3rd (other reasons: more shade, they've opened up the grass field, and farmer's market on Sundays).
Posted by: northsloperenter at June 29, 2009 10:00 AM
"we should have a celebrity death pool!
*rob*"
that is pretty low, even for you, rob.
Posted by: randolph at June 29, 2009 10:04 AM
Randolph - Rob's idea isn't all that different from newspapers writing obits in advance - how do you think all that MJ coverage was put together in a matter of seconds?
Posted by: Arkady at June 29, 2009 10:06 AM
Anyone watch the BET Awards last night?
Posted by: gemini10 at June 29, 2009 10:07 AM
" Rob's idea isn't all that different from newspapers writing obits in advance "
you are a moron. newspapers aren't making bets about who is going to die, they are just being prepared so they can print the story right away. in a 24hr news world they have no choice.
people on a real estate blog making bets about who will die next is sickening.
Posted by: randolph at June 29, 2009 10:09 AM
I was scrolling down and this caught my eye
"i don't get my monthlies for another few days"
I swear to god I thought it was some nasty girl talking about her 'monthlies'.
Of course when I looked to see who Miss Nasty was, turns out it's Rob.
ROFLMAO!!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at June 29, 2009 10:09 AM
Anyone watch the USA-Brazil game yesterday afternoon??
World Cup, less than a year away!
Posted by: infinitejester at June 29, 2009 10:09 AM
Arkady, that was actually surreal. They had all these specials with footage about MJ this whole weekend about his life story and I was saying to myself that no way they put this together, cut and edited it in 2 days.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 29, 2009 10:11 AM
THL - me too!
Posted by: Arkady at June 29, 2009 10:17 AM
rob, would you think it was funny to have a PLUSA death pool? thought not. do i still need to get off your dick?
Posted by: randolph at June 29, 2009 10:17 AM
randi, I think you'd be voted to the top of the list!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 10:19 AM
Randolph - You're really grasping at straws to find some bone of contention. Go work it out on the public school thread.
Posted by: Arkady at June 29, 2009 10:21 AM
Ha ha ha Dave. You have my vote on that one.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 29, 2009 10:23 AM
dave wants me dead? Mr B i take that as a threat. time out for DIBS. seriously.
Posted by: randolph at June 29, 2009 10:23 AM
randolph - that's not a threat it's a deduction - you obviously have high blood pressure & are at risk.
Posted by: Arkady at June 29, 2009 10:25 AM
randi, reading comprehension my dear. I just said you'd probably wind up at the top of the list. I didn't reveal anything about MY preferences. ;)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 10:26 AM
fine i'll go away for good this time. i promise this to be my last post ever. consider me dead. you all win. bye.
Posted by: randolph at June 29, 2009 10:29 AM
BTW, I hung out with DH in Willyburg this weekend and he took me to Uber Hipster Bar(s). I have to admit, I had a pretty good time. Cheap booze, cute girls, can't beat it.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 29, 2009 10:29 AM
It'll be creepier if you're not here, randi, because we know you'll be lurking.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 10:31 AM
randi going away that easily? I call a bluff.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 29, 2009 10:31 AM
I do not think the burn on top of his head had as much to do with MJ's weird behavior as the schizophrenia inside his head.
He took meds for schizophrenia. Evidently his lungs were diseased as well. He was a mess. As I posted on Friday, in a way it is amazing he made it to 50. Elvis died in this forties, Mozart (who wrote to friends about "hearing voices" in his head died in his thirties). It also looked to me like he was anorexic. Karen Carpenter dies around age 50....so it goes.
Posted by: sam at June 29, 2009 10:31 AM
sam, all of America has Billy May's voice in their heads.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 10:35 AM
Thank god I'm working in Brooklyn and taking the car.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 10:35 AM
i agree with the schizophrenia diagnosis. most men who get it, usually begins to appear in their 20s and it just gets progressively worse. isnt that around the time he started getting a little bit freakytown? i mean there's eccentric, and then there's psychologically disturbed. i did always find his antics funny though. oh look at me randi, laughing at the mentally incapitated. im going to hell!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 29, 2009 10:36 AM
I think you have to be schizophrenic to do that to your face. The doctors who did it to him, on the other hand, have no excuse.
I heard about Billy May's death. Interesting to read here that it may have been caused by a bump in the head ala Natasha Richardson.
Posted by: sam at June 29, 2009 10:41 AM
remeber when michael jackson's nose actually FELL off during an interview!? i tried catching a ton of MJ stuff this weekend, and no one played that clip!!! :-/ i mean i understand they want to remember the good stuff, but his nose falling off and then him freaking out is just comedy gold.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 29, 2009 10:49 AM
I tried Cafe Grumpy and their $10,000 Clover machine coffee. Iced coffe after 2 hrs. w/ melted ice cubes still "good to the last drop." Gotta say, probably smoothest most drinkable cup I ever had.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 10:50 AM
does cafe grumpy give you a cup of ice with like 1 ounce of coffee in it? that is my biggest pet peeve (only second to the concept of Apple)!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 29, 2009 10:58 AM
If you mean the company Apple and its products, they are no longer a concept.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 11:01 AM
The coffee was European style, extra strong ( if you've ever been to a northern Euro country you know the real Vienna roast is DARK), the cubes were a welcome dilution, but as strong as it was, not bitter.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 11:02 AM
i know it's not a concept. maybe that wasnt the word i was looking for.. i dont know. maybe i meant the apple kool-aid machine. that still doesnt sound right.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 29, 2009 11:07 AM
Apple kool-aid machine?
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 11:09 AM
no it's not an actual machine like the snoopy sno-cone machine. nevermind, im having difficulty expressing my thoughts today.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 29, 2009 11:14 AM
I drank the Apple kool aid and because of that I've never had a virus on my laptop. Nor do i get pop ups. Can't say the same about the countles PCs I've had.
The only gripe I have is that they never supplied instructions for keystrokes. It took me awhile to figure out the equivalent to the F5 Refresh and Ctrl-Alt-Del
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 11:16 AM
haha - good times Kens
hopefully i wasn't too incoherent at the end of the night after my friend kept feeding me double shots of jameson haha
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 29, 2009 11:17 AM
Your "friend" wanted to get you drunk and take advantage of you lol.
You were fine Dude, all good times.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 29, 2009 11:21 AM
Ironically, both the Apple Macintosh and the Snoopy Sno Cone machine were things I wanted for Christmas as a kid but didn't get.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 11:21 AM
BTW, the chick was super cool & nice. Laura said she hopes you guys start dating, he he.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 29, 2009 11:22 AM
Best Kool-Aid was Purplesaurus Rex - grape and lemonade mixed together.
Posted by: infinitejester at June 29, 2009 11:27 AM
Any places you recommend in Williamsburg/Greenpoint DH? My friend just moved to GP.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 11:28 AM
i found a spongebob squarepants ice cream (or ice?) maker on a stoop a while back. but it had no instructions, i wasnt able to figure out how it worked, and it may have been missing a part or two.
i dont remember if i ever had the snoopy sno cone maker.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 29, 2009 11:29 AM
For those interested - there's an amazing a picture on Reuters of a newly constructed high rise that fell over on its side.
Posted by: dittoburg at June 29, 2009 11:31 AM
It was one of those things that just looked so cool on the commercial. Something about the cherry flavor, the technicolor red on the TV mad it look like the most delicious thing in the world.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 11:32 AM
Madoff gets 150 years.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 11:33 AM
That's still less than Hoffa Dave.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 11:36 AM
wow so he is in for life after all.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 29, 2009 11:36 AM
ditto - in BK?
Posted by: gemini10 at June 29, 2009 11:37 AM
Bloomberg.com scooped the Times.
Posted by: infinitejester at June 29, 2009 11:40 AM
Hey IJ, I'm assuming you're a David Foster Wallace fan?
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 11:41 AM
Bloomberg was publishing the words of the judge over my news page even before CNBC had them. The reporter in the courtroon must have had online access to get them scrolled in the headlines section.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 11:41 AM
Have a signed copy. Read it several times. My favorite novel, ever.
Posted by: infinitejester at June 29, 2009 11:44 AM
There were pix in the Times on Sunday of a brand new high-rise in China (I think) that fell over.
Posted by: Arkady at June 29, 2009 11:47 AM
"Any places you recommend in Williamsburg/Greenpoint DH? My friend just moved to GP."
There's alot of crap going on - what's your friend into?
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 29, 2009 11:52 AM
There's alot of crap going on - what's your friend into?
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 29, 2009 11:52 AM
420, PNP, S&M, B&D, mild CBT.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 12:00 PM
420, PNP, S&M, B&D, mild CBT.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 12:00 PM
with Hipsters?
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 29, 2009 12:04 PM
Shanghai building collapse
http://mwcnews.net/content/view/31546/0/
Posted by: DeLepp at June 29, 2009 12:06 PM
"It'll be creepier if you're not here, randi, because we know you'll be lurking."
Watch for a new name popping up in the next day or so.
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 29, 2009 12:07 PM
"420, PNP, S&M, B&D, mild CBT."
Dave, what the heck is the 'alphabet soup' there??
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 29, 2009 12:09 PM
You don't want to know, rob. The "T" means torture.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 12:09 PM
ugh my dentist office just called me to reschedule my appointment that iw as supposed to have today. oh well that's fine. it will be a week from tomorrow. i was looking forward to a glass of wine and laughing gas tho :(
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 29, 2009 12:14 PM
Hiya Dumbasses! I got a Hard On reading this story and you know why? This is your future.
Madoff Cursed by Victims Who Scavenge Food, Bottles (Update1)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aotxaZMe71lA
"June 29 (Bloomberg) -- Victims of Bernard Madoff’s $65 billion Ponzi scheme branded him at his sentencing hearing as “beast” who had ruined their lives, forcing one to scavenge for food in Dumpsters."
ROTFYASMMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe they can fight the Hipsters for stale shrimp!
Madoff “discarded me like road kill,” said Mirian Siegman, of Stamford, Connecticut, today at the hearing in Manhattan. She now relies on food stamps, collecting recyclable bottles and digging through Dumpsters.
I willing to bet that a 3 years ago this genius was the "Smartest person in the room".
"Madoff “shattered my dreams” when he lost her mother’s inheritance, said Sharon Lissauer, a model who lives in Manhattan. Victim Sheryl Weinstein, of Manhattan, said she was a longtime friend of the money manager, calling him “a beast” for losing her investment. She said her son had worked for Madoff years ago.
"
What no "Reach Around"??? Oh man this is fun!!!!
"Madoff has shown “no remorse,” said victim Carla Hirschhorn, of Manalapan, New Jersey, at the hearing. She told Chin her life is a “living hell,” her mother is dependent on social security and her daughter works two jobs to pay tuition. “Don’t fail us,” she told the judge."
What??!!! You have to "work" to get somewhere in life??!! You mean I can't be a millionaire on paper???!!!
T-Minus 4 months 'tards..... Tick Tick.. Tick.....
The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
Posted by: Return of The What at June 29, 2009 12:15 PM
does CBT involve electricity?! ive heard of that.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 29, 2009 12:15 PM
Well, I did say "mild CBT" so maybe a few milliamps.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 12:23 PM
""mild CBT" so maybe a few milliamps."
EEEK, nevermind, I don't wanna know!
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 29, 2009 12:34 PM
It could also involve, say, clothespins. One must learn to be creative or the torture rituals become boring.
I bet none of you even have any clothespins anymore!! Well then take xome of those black binder clips home from the office.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 12:37 PM
A glass of wine?
Posted by: East New York at June 29, 2009 12:38 PM
Speaking of torture, did anyone go to the Gay Pride Parade??? What was your favorite float??
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 12:41 PM
Thanks for responding DH. a place to get a drink, meet people, good music (genre doesn't matter). She did remark that she's feeling a little old and unhip living there. (She's 30, I'm 29). She's more of a rock/dance music person, I like everything. I'm looking to start heading up there more and looking for a basic place to have a drink with friends (and hopefully meet some more!)
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 12:44 PM
Hmm, I might try some CBT if it was from some of those W'burg hipsters women:)...I think I've seen some J.Crew models on the L train.
Posted by: infinitejester at June 29, 2009 12:45 PM
Any Hip Hop places in Billyburg since Black Betty closed? I actually tried to get them financing a few months back.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 12:49 PM
yes ENY, my dentist office has wine in the waiting. it's a perk i was talking about on friday but no one believed me! maybe dipster can verify and walk into my dentist office since he works right there too.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 29, 2009 12:55 PM
OK. Wine IS relaxing, I guess.
Posted by: East New York at June 29, 2009 1:00 PM
Rob - I thought we'd agreed to use a euphemism - d-word. Please don't elaborate on it again! Go w/ whatever CBT is instead. Thx.
Posted by: Arkady at June 29, 2009 1:03 PM
Too bad today's ROTD photo is utterly devoid of humanity...
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at June 29, 2009 1:06 PM
Joe
On the weekends there's a few places that have DJs and play hip hop/pop music and every dances. Really fun vibe. These places include
K&M (Kens can give some feedback about this place as we were there Sat)
Enid's
Royal Oak
I think Hope Lounge has a hip hop DJ on the weekends.
Good Dives up in Greenpoint:
R Bar
Mark Bar
The Palace
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 29, 2009 1:09 PM
DIBS, I wasn't there, but I saw a piece in the Daily News.
Miss Understood was there!
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 29, 2009 1:10 PM
Thank you sir!
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 1:12 PM
Oh Joe - whatever your friend does, tell her to stay away from Union Pool on the weekends!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 29, 2009 1:20 PM
Hey Rob - would you mind giving me the information for your dentist? I'm looking for a new one, and one close to work that gives out nitrous and wine would be ideal.
dipster11211@gmail.com
probably shouldn't give out his info online as he may get busted by the feds!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 29, 2009 1:21 PM
What's up with Union Pool? Youngsters?
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 1:23 PM
99.....Yaaaawwwwwnnnnnnnnn.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 1:29 PM
100
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 1:29 PM
another Michael Jackson question (after not thinking about him for years, I can't get him out of my mind today):
Does anyone believe that those three little white children of his are biologically related to him? They don't look like biracial children.
Posted by: sam at June 29, 2009 1:33 PM
Yes, I don't think anything about this guy's life is believable after a certain point (like age 12). He slept with (other people's) children! They described waht his penis looked like! Sick POS. 'nuff said.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 1:37 PM
i dont think they are really his either, but who knows. actually i dont know if ive ever seen them as older kids.
dipster, i sent you the dentist info!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 29, 2009 1:44 PM
stop the lies, right now. they did not describe what his penis looked like.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 29, 2009 1:45 PM
oh sam! and how are biracial children supposed to look like?
I actually think they do look like him and have his PRE SURGERY features , but are very very light.
Posted by: gemini10 at June 29, 2009 1:47 PM
Bi-racial children can run the entire spectrum of looking totally like one parent or the other & something of a mix.
Posted by: Arkady at June 29, 2009 2:00 PM
Joe, K&M was fun. Chill crowd, cute hipster girls (can't speak for the guys since I didn't pay attention to any), played MJ pretty much all the time, CHEAP booze, not pretentious at all, might bump into DH there.
Pretty much sums it up.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 29, 2009 2:01 PM
"They don't look like biracial children."
Officially, today's dumbest statement.
Posted by: East New York at June 29, 2009 2:07 PM
Bi-racial children look like Obama did when he was a little boy, or like Holly Berrie, or like two little kids on my block, some take more towards one side of the family than the other but they are not tow-headed like his youngest.
I can just imagine MJ, picking the Mom, then picking the sperm donor in order to "make" the perfect chid. I guess there is no law against that, it's just SO WEIRD!
Posted by: sam at June 29, 2009 2:08 PM
exactly. which is why i get upset when people think im making a joke that theoretically i COULD very well be biracial. there were no paternity tests back then and my mother was with a lot of men.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 29, 2009 2:11 PM
"They don't look like biracial children"
You are racist Retards and cannot help yourselves..
The What (You know what to suck..)
Someday this war is gonna end..
Posted by: Return of The What at June 29, 2009 2:12 PM
"Bi-racial children look like Obama did when he was a little boy, or like Holly Berrie, or like two little kids on my block, some take more towards one side of the family than the other but they are not tow-headed like his youngest."
I stand corrected.
Posted by: East New York at June 29, 2009 2:12 PM
Bi-racial people (am talking white and black) can really run the gamut of all colorings and features - you never know what gene cocktail will come up when your kid is created.
Posted by: gemini10 at June 29, 2009 2:16 PM
Think Anatole Broyard...
Posted by: Arkady at June 29, 2009 2:17 PM
See East New York! You think I'm a nut but the RETARD cannot help themselves!
Last week everything came out into the open!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 29, 2009 2:22 PM
I thought MJ wore the mask sometimes because of the plastic surgery problems of his nose. I still think he died of a *broken heart*. The media was brutal to him for years. Now they adulate him again because he brings in audiences for the multi-million-dollar salaried media hawks.
Hadn't heard about the schizophrenic (sp?) thing yet. It seems he was tortured first by his dad, and later by the media. Can't those things lead to schizo? I think the press will be twisting things about him in death, just as it did in life.
Posted by: BklynSoFar at June 29, 2009 2:22 PM
Rob if you really want to know what race you might be - I want to say I read or saw on TV about DNA tests you can take that will search certain gene pool makeups that tend to be categorized by race?
am soo not sure about this and of course not sure you need to have dna samples from your parents(which you only would have 1 side -correct)
it might be interesting for you to pursue
Posted by: gemini10 at June 29, 2009 2:23 PM
Still using slurs eh What. Nicely consistent with your claim last week that you never use slurs.
Posted by: dittoburg at June 29, 2009 2:25 PM
I have to say my biracial son doesn't look a bit like Obama did.
Posted by: dittoburg at June 29, 2009 2:26 PM
ditto....just go to the Public School thread and see how he's gone off the deep end
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 2:26 PM
Rob just see if you have Dog DNA. That should clear up who your mother was "Sleeping" with....
The What (
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 29, 2009 2:30 PM
" Can't those things lead to schizo?"
There is such a thing as drug induced schizophrenia.
Sigh, I grew up with a bunch of mixed race kids. One was blond, blond, blond as a child.
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 29, 2009 2:31 PM
He's lost it. Again.
Mr. B., your continual blind eye to What's daily use of "retard" as a slur (not in a comaprative context, mind)might get your blog some attention from the AAPD.
Posted by: dittoburg at June 29, 2009 2:31 PM
Thanks Rob - I got it
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 29, 2009 2:32 PM
A mother of "mixed" kids told me terminology is "mixed". What do I know. I learn a lot here and from other folks.
Posted by: BklynSoFar at June 29, 2009 2:32 PM
I have to say my biracial son doesn't look a bit like Obama did.
Posted by: dittoburg at June 29, 2009 2:26 PM
Rewrite!
I have to say my bisexual son doesn't look a bit like Obama did.
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 29, 2009 2:32 PM
Bklynsofar, I liked what you wrote about MJ Friday night. Thanks for that.
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 29, 2009 2:35 PM
I have to say my bisexual son doesn't look a bit like Obama did.
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 29, 2009 2:32 PM
Is your bisexual son the result of something that happened to you in prison????
I think if an Asshat (code for white person) said that you'd be off on another crazy rant.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 2:35 PM
He may be, I'll find out when he's grown up.
I suppose you think that's an insult!
Posted by: dittoburg at June 29, 2009 2:35 PM
What, you are getting comical. I had to look twice to see you had changed the word in 4th sentence of - 2:32 PM.
Posted by: BklynSoFar at June 29, 2009 2:37 PM
"See East New York! You think I'm a nut but the RETARD cannot help themselves!"
I don't think you're a nut. You just get heated more easily than I do, and you sling insults in a way that I wouldn't, but you've always made good points from time to time and you're consistently the funniest poster here, in my opinion. In any event, I just can't ignore the incredible, incredible stupidity of the "biracial" posts from "sam." They're idiotic.
Posted by: East New York at June 29, 2009 2:40 PM
Mr. Dibs-- you're expertise in building, finance, and interior decor would put me to shame and under the table. I think, however, that your comments incite Mr. What. Please forgive me if incorrect.
Posted by: BklynSoFar at June 29, 2009 2:43 PM
Agreed, ENY.
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 29, 2009 2:43 PM
BklynSoFar...you are an "inciteful" person. :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 2:45 PM
Human DNA is really pretty efficient, kids usually look like their parents. If someone takes offense at that, I give up.
Posted by: sam at June 29, 2009 2:46 PM
ENY- Sam is anything but stupid -- that is name-calling too. IMO Sam was just trying to make an observation. People are concerned for kids in grief over a father's death. I don't know all the PC terms. For instance some of Dibs, DQ and all of the Q's. Could be BQE to me.
Posted by: BklynSoFar at June 29, 2009 2:48 PM
ok here's a dumb question, that I have to ask as I will have a "mixed black white baby"
What do mixed folks check on forms when prompted to tell about their race?
both?
Posted by: gemini10 at June 29, 2009 2:48 PM
Yes- even a broken watch is right twice a day and "funniest" certainly doesn't translate into "most intelligent", What. Just to clarify.
Posted by: bxgrl at June 29, 2009 2:49 PM
East New York last week was a turning point for me! I was very upset because the Brownstoner Community did not chastise Dave for his use of the "N Word" and that lead me to believe that everyone shares that viewpoint. There was no reason for him to spell it out and I found that very disgusting and to top it off he gives a "Conditional Apology" WTF is that crap???!! So now I'm at DEFCOM 4 and I really don't give a crap about any one here (Yeah you read that right) because Brownstoner and the posters on this Blog could've said something about Dave's behavior and the use of a dirty longtime racial slur was uncalled for!
The What (The Balls...)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 29, 2009 2:52 PM
I wish I could find something the What wrote funny, it'd make it easier to read.
Now, if we're voting for funnies poster, I'd take Snarkslope and, on a good day (or bad day perhaps) Rob. Even if it's inadvertent.
Posted by: dittoburg at June 29, 2009 2:53 PM
gemini- at one time that was a question I asked too (when it was a distinct possibility I would have kids). Finally we decided we would tell our kids to put however they perceived themselves- frankly, "human being" seems to still be the best definition. :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at June 29, 2009 2:58 PM
Oh, and BRG too, whatever happened to her.
Posted by: dittoburg at June 29, 2009 3:00 PM
So now I'm at DEFCOM 4 and I really don't give a crap about any one here
Posted by: Return of The What at June 29, 2009 2:52 PM
Then why keep posting, on and on, using the word "retard" (sorry ditto) and ranting like a lunatic????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 3:01 PM
And it's DEFCON. not DEFCOM.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 3:02 PM
BRG is in the Brownstoner Detox clinic. PLUSAs seem to visit it from time to time. I am glad you're back Ditto.
I vote for Snark as well, hillllarious. Where is ghetto when you need him/her. ghetto, come back to us ;o).
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 29, 2009 3:03 PM
Rob, your posts were so funny last week I was LOL a bunch of times -- wish I could remember them all.
One was the play-on-words with Sam about a person of/or with "substance". Another was a (yenta type): $100 for a boyfriend; $50. for a girlfriend. You have a comic gift with turning things around. Also with your social observations, it seems you could be a novelist.
BTW, I wonder what it costs for a couple of good parents.
Posted by: BklynSoFar at June 29, 2009 3:03 PM
"Oh, and BRG too, whatever happened to her."
She called me, she's just taking some time off to focus on other things. I miss her!
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 29, 2009 3:04 PM
"ENY- Sam is anything but stupid -- that is name-calling too."
I didn't call "sam" stupid. I said his COMMENTS were stupid (and idiotic). As dittoburg said, genetically, it's ENTIRELY possible for a kid not to resemble his parents in many respects. Not only mixed-race kids, but even kids of the SAME race can differ significantly in looks from their parents. Doesn't always happen, but it's certainly possible. By saying bi-racial children "look like Obama did when he was a little boy, or like Holly Berrie, or like two little kids on my block," "sam" is claiming that ALL children of mixed race look the same. There's a famous (and insulting) saying to this effect with regards to black people, but I won't go there. Regardless of whether or not he was trying to make an "observation," "sam's" comment is simply idiotic.
Posted by: East New York at June 29, 2009 3:05 PM
"And he's never been man enough to acknowledge the apology."
Allow me to address this right here. First I don't see a man but a punk hiding behind Covert Race/Class Warfare! Dave could've issued the Apology right away and that would've be OK for me but he was very belligerent and gave a conditional apology.
As someone that lives among Black People and using that type of language speaks volumes to me and I realize it's not about everyone, it's about "US".
Dave you are on mute baby...
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 29, 2009 3:06 PM
me too! CHiller. We'll have to keep in touch with her until she's ready to come out and play again.
Posted by: bxgrl at June 29, 2009 3:07 PM
If you speak to BRG again, tell her Hi from Kens!
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 29, 2009 3:09 PM
DIBS - to tell you the truth, I'm not bothered one way or the other about that slur - I've been harassing him because he constantly uses slurs and then hypocritically claims he doesn't. Everything he accuses other people of being - mainly "hypocrite" or "racist", he himself is the epitome of.
Posted by: dittoburg at June 29, 2009 3:09 PM
And yet you still don't understand the difference between discussing a word and using it as a slur. I think we ALL know who the belligerent one is.
Without me, What, no one will respond to you. I think even you can see that now.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 3:09 PM
I kind of thought that was the case, ditto.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 3:12 PM
"the Brownstoner Community did not chastise Dave for his use of the "N Word" and that lead me to believe that everyone shares that viewpoint."
So when the Brownstoner community ignores your rants, do you assume everyone agrees with you?
Posted by: etson at June 29, 2009 3:14 PM
"Joe, K&M was fun. Chill crowd, cute hipster girls (can't speak for the guys since I didn't pay attention to any), played MJ pretty much all the time, CHEAP booze, not pretentious at all, might bump into DH there.
Pretty much sums it up."
K&M sounds chill. I guess I'll be donning my plastic frame glasses and my (semi-baggy) tight jeans for those cute hipster girls! I might even use my (female) friend as my "wing man".
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 3:18 PM
I need some whiskey stat.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 29, 2009 3:19 PM
I thought asshat was code-word for firefighter.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 3:20 PM
Anyone have a favorite brand of bourbon?
Make mine Maker's Mark.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 3:21 PM
joeFB- wherever did THAT come from?
Posted by: bxgrl at June 29, 2009 3:22 PM
maker's mark is great.
Posted by: dittoburg at June 29, 2009 3:22 PM
Makers Mark or Basil Hayden
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 3:23 PM
Maker's is a good standby.
I like Elijah Craig Single Barrel (18 yr)
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 29, 2009 3:24 PM
Joe, don't forget a Plaid shirt. I brought a female friend to be my "wingwoman" but didn't bother picking up anyone cause I was having too much time watching DH's lady friend getting him plastered.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 29, 2009 3:24 PM
BXgrl- ah - that's probably a good way to handle that question.
Posted by: gemini10 at June 29, 2009 3:24 PM
Yeah btw IJester, I really enjoyed Infinite Jest as well. I read it in college, probably re-read it 2-3 times. It can put you in a very strange, ironic mood. Characters were both funny/ridiculous and emotion-evoking. Orthro Stice!
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 3:25 PM
Mr. Dibs, sorry for being "inciteful". I need to watch how I phrase things and believe me am trying. I was thinking that the way one goes back and forth with Mr. What and such, first that there is a real liking between the two people. Then it seems to go the other way, and they are fighting. I think Mr. Dibs really cares about the What, then, well, now I don't know about what is going on (small w there, not the W). Not that it is any of my business, but this is a public OT. I am wondering if the two people need referees, audience, or perhaps a mediation so they can be friends again.
Big (cracked) light bulbs going on here, but I am thinking this difference is not about N word, but something deeper and more significant.
Let's get to "L" word and "Love one an other" (is that some song?). Less of the "L" as in "lunatic" and such words would possibly help.
Posted by: BklynSoFar at June 29, 2009 3:27 PM
LOL. That's what special-lady-friends (Big Lubowski reference) are for Kens!
You mean the bourbon question Gemini/BX girl?
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 3:30 PM
haha kens - it was also waaay too hot in there and everyone appeared to be hanging in groups unfortunately.
Yeah, my friend is something else. we had 2 more shots and a beer at another bar afterwards. Sunday morning sucked.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 29, 2009 3:33 PM
no joe...
the mixed kid question
my husband is black. I am white - so when we have kids I wonder what box the kid will have to check if prompted to ask what race they are....
BXgrl suggested telling them check the box they feel they are that day. My only concern about that is then in the world of record keeping, then various agencies may have my kid listed as a diff race -
its a mixed up crazyyyyy world
Posted by: gemini10 at June 29, 2009 3:34 PM
No joe :-) what do kids with biracial parents call themselves.
But i was asking you about the firefighter comment.
Posted by: bxgrl at June 29, 2009 3:34 PM
dh, Sunday mornings are meant to suck. Always worsened though if church is involved!!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 3:35 PM
haha dave - or work!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 29, 2009 3:36 PM
I was so proud of team USA btw (reading comments backwords). For USA to be beating Brazil 2-0 for half the game is unprecedented.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 3:44 PM
Gem- every biracial child I know defines themselves or identifies themselves as African American.It's no insult to the White parent but i think it is a function of how society tries to pigeonhole the kids. I hoped our kids would have found strength and pride from both parents, and be strong enough to define themselves as they saw fit.
Posted by: bxgrl at June 29, 2009 3:46 PM
Is anyone here bisexual??
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 3:48 PM
Oh...
I never knew asshat was code-word for white people until the What said something. The What is so against racial slurs, he makes it a point not only to know them but to use them (frequently!). Very selfless. The What, you're a credit to your race.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 3:52 PM
oopsie, I think I hit a nerve with my MJ kids post. ENY has particular issues understanding the fundamentals of heredity. There is probably an interesting story there but I'm not going to ask to hear it.
Anyway, as I tell my youngest (who has an uncanny resemblance to both me and his mother)
"people with issues need tissues".
Posted by: sam at June 29, 2009 3:53 PM
I hope Mr. What will read my comment at - 3:27 PM.
Posted by: BklynSoFar at June 29, 2009 3:53 PM
The Human race of course, BX girl!
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 3:59 PM
bxgrl - ahhh nuts! - so true so true
Posted by: gemini10 at June 29, 2009 3:59 PM
I was thinking that the way one goes back and forth with Mr. What and such, first that there is a real liking between the two people.
Rewrite!
I was thinking that the way one goes back and forth with Mr. What and such, first that there is a real hatred between the two people.
BklynSoFar I know you came in from Wisconsin two months ago so here's the summary. Dave is a Asshead.... He used the "N Worn" making a point that I found disgusting and he wouldn't use that type of language around his neighbors. Dave lives in a Black neighborhood and he's going to tell you soem other garbage. Just go and re read his post and get back to me sunshine..
The What (Please Debrief the news guys please)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 29, 2009 4:03 PM
Maybe the What and DIBS will be on the next season of HBO's "In Treatment" BklnSoFar.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 4:05 PM
Ah yes, gem- I am just a veritable fount of wisdom ;-)
(Joe- your firefighter comment- please explain. Or if you did explain and I still haven't figured it out, kindly remember we all lose brain cells every day so you have to be extra patient with me.)
Posted by: bxgrl at June 29, 2009 4:05 PM
Why do you think I hate you what???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 4:08 PM
I was just making fun of the asshat comment because I really didn't know exactly what Asshat meant. I knew it had something to do with gentrifiers or Yuppies but not totally. I thought it was funny when the What made clear that it was exclusively to be applied to whites. I tried to think of someone that wears funny looking hats and thought of a firefighter.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 4:14 PM
The session begins...
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 4:14 PM
"ENY has particular issues understanding the fundamentals of heredity."
You definitely have a problem - a tragic inability to understand why your previous statements were so incredibly ignorant. Furthermore, I'm pretty sure the "story" behind your lack of insight with regards to your ignorance isn't at all interesting, but unfortunately, fairly routine.
Posted by: East New York at June 29, 2009 4:23 PM
BklynSoFar...I would repost my original post but if I did I'm sure What would have a real shifit again. Like I said, I apologized to him that he saw the word in print and it offended him. He was a belligerent jackass all day long about it so he didn't get an apology initially.
The word was used because someone else called someone who is gay the "F word" I merely discussed that word in the context of the "n word" but had spelled out both of them. It was a discussion of the two words, nothing more, nothing less.
He won't drop it because he thinks everything here is a "covert race/class war" It's just a grand form of paranoia on his part.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 4:25 PM
Afternoon fellow PLUSAs :) How's it hangin'?
**I see that the dead horse from last week is again getting it's @ss kicked...sigh**
Any good news in the world today?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at June 29, 2009 4:37 PM
no - it's monday, work sucks, it just got cloudy outside and I'm really hungry snappy :(
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 29, 2009 4:41 PM
Snappy, there's a "lawyer" question you may be able to answer in the "Obama deli" thread.
Posted by: East New York at June 29, 2009 4:41 PM
Well, there's cake and there's covert class/race warfare. The What's all out of cake.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 4:41 PM
mmmmm cake.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 29, 2009 4:43 PM
Yikes...it's sounding quite grim over here!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at June 29, 2009 4:43 PM
Joe, awesome! I like John "No Relation" Wayne. I have my favorite passages noted on the frontispiece. The most touching moments in writing always come when a comic author gets serious for a moment.
Posted by: infinitejester at June 29, 2009 4:46 PM
You actually should have an "ignore" feature, hopefully by September...
Posted by: brownstoner at June 29, 2009 4:39 PM
And the voice of reason have spoken! yey!
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 29, 2009 4:46 PM
Mr. What:
"BklynSoFar I know you came in from Wisconsin two months ago . . . "
You have me LOL'ing and falling off my chair so much with that comment that I am having trouble following the original etymological argument.
Will have to get back to you when I sober up from laughing (and looking up how to spell the previous "e" word).
Posted by: BklynSoFar at June 29, 2009 4:50 PM
You actually should have an "ignore" feature, hopefully by September...
Posted by: brownstoner at June 29, 2009 4:39 PM
So you will not have to read me rubbing the collapse of the Mutant Asset Bubble is your faces!!!
Yay I wont have to see you!!!! Brownstoner R.I.P!!!!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 29, 2009 4:52 PM
Nice IJ!
What was the name of the Southie kid in Infinite Jest that sold everyone drugs and (convienently) clean urine during drug testing?
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 4:52 PM
So, I just wanted to find out if I'm the only ninny who didnt' think about this...
Last night I was watching the HGTV Dream Home giveaway and got to wondering how many folks who win live in the house vs. sell it for the $$$. I then came across a thread on some blog about how that sweepstakes has ruined people because they are getting hit with huge tax bills for the full value of the prize (the house, all the furnishings, the land, the cash, and the car they receive as part of the package). I then read an article about the winners of the Dream Home built in Tyler, TX several years ago. They decided to move there and live in the 6000 sqft home but first had to take out a $672,000 loan to pay the taxes on the damned prize. At the time the article was published, the winners were trying to sell it and hoping to come out with at least 250K to pocket after all is said and done. I am never entering that contest again! It sounds like a nightmare. And on top of that, last year's home built in Hilton Head SC was in a desolate area that had no other homes in it. By the time the winner was announced, only 2 or 3 other homes were just begining to be built nearby.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at June 29, 2009 4:54 PM
BklynSoFar it's "The What", not Mr. What! WTF is that??!!!
The What <-- SEE!!!!
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 29, 2009 4:54 PM
DH, I know how to turn your frown upside down...get thee to a bar and have a beer!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at June 29, 2009 4:55 PM
Are you saying that you choose to remain sexually ambiguous, or is it just Ms. What?
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 4:58 PM
Got it, The What.
Posted by: BklynSoFar at June 29, 2009 4:59 PM
insert - I don;t watch that show - but am SURE there are loads of tax issues these poor contestants never think about upon entering and then winnging (sorta like the free car giveaway Oprah did a few years back)
HGTV should just agree to pay additional taxes etc
I have to say HGTV annoys me altough I prob watch it 2-3 a week for various home buying/selling/design shows
My favorite is when a buyer is checking out houses and they are concerned about an old rug or the paint color as if that will be the deal breaker for them not to buy the house - it just makes me giggle. Imagine how they would fare looking at these old buildings here in BK?
Posted by: gemini10 at June 29, 2009 4:59 PM
Androginous (spelling!) might be the better word. That's why we call you What! It's like Pat on SNL!
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 5:00 PM
Gem...I wonder the same things about those home buyers. They've got a new show with some guy named Mike Aubrey, an "Real Estate Interventionist". It's sad but funny at the same time. THis guy's job is to explain to home sellers, by showing them active and recently sold comps, that their home is overpriced and/or not very nice and therefore not worth the money they are trying to sell for. When I saw that show, I immediately thought of the What. That should totally be his show. By the time he got done with the foolish home owners, they'd be running to reduce their prices. The few episodes I've seen with the Mike Aubrey guy, the owners tend to fight him and swear that they know more than he does and ignore his advice. On 2 shows the couples refused to budge on their price and wound up having to rent out the home and still have to cough up a couple hundred per month to meet the mortgate payment. Just plain sad.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at June 29, 2009 5:04 PM
"Are you saying that you choose to remain sexually ambiguous, or is it just Ms. What?
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 4:58 PM"
Classic example-- Joe from Brooklyn! You know damn well this Asshead has been here for 2 years and now he's a native Brooklynite! Please spare me!
Got it, The What.
Posted by: BklynSoFar at June 29, 2009 4:59 PM
BklynSoFar not bad trying to have a dialogue with me, unless your writing a Psych Thesis...
The What (Joe Blow me in Brooklyn)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 29, 2009 5:08 PM
I also watch HGTV- its fun but MM and I have howled over some of the homebuyer comments. "Oh honey- they painted this room putrid pink! I'm not sure I can live in this house!!!!"
"Oh no- I don't think I could live with that light fixture"
I thought the fun of moving into your own house would be the decorating!
Posted by: bxgrl at June 29, 2009 5:09 PM
insert- I will have to catch that show with Mike Aubrey!
have you seen "Bought and Sold" with the real estate crew from NJ- that's a good show I think and has me now wanting to move to Montclair or South orange!
Posted by: gemini10 at June 29, 2009 5:09 PM
The What just ripped his name off from a Notorious BIG song - how original.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 29, 2009 5:09 PM
Sounds like a good show Snappy. I'm sure the poster formerly known as the What will be watching.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 5:09 PM
Okay honey. From now on you are Ms. What. It's just like Ms. Pacman. Just picture What with a red bow. Daddy loves you!
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 5:13 PM
I love Bought & Sold. I love the one guy who always has a theme for his open houses. Over the top and wonderful! They clearly know what they are doing, as it says they all average 5-10mil in sales per year.
People crack me up crying about paint colors they don't like. If you are house hunting but can't afford to repaint a house, then you seriously need to check yourself and reconsider buying.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at June 29, 2009 5:13 PM
" THis guy's job is to explain to home sellers, by showing them active and recently sold comps, that their home is overpriced and/or not very nice and therefore not worth the money they are trying to sell for. When I saw that show, I immediately thought of the What. That should totally be his show. By the time he got done with the foolish home owners, they'd be running to reduce their prices. "
That's why I'm not doing any Real Estate right now!
InsertSnappyNameHere please buy this Book/Audiobook ASAP!!!
Predictably Irrational
http://www.predictablyirrational.com/
Buy it used from Amazon.com and read it. Humans are retarded...
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 29, 2009 5:17 PM
insert - YES!!!- I think his name is sam and he's wonderfully gay(hope that's not a slur) and from Alabama and has a gorgeous house.
I agree I think that bunch DO know what they are doing.
Posted by: gemini10 at June 29, 2009 5:17 PM
I'll check it out, What.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at June 29, 2009 5:22 PM
Did you see the one where he had horses and a live joust in the front lawn? My fav though was the one where he invited all the realtors to bring their dogs and he had out all those doggie treats and gift bags. The funniest part was that the food for the humans was in a big dog bowl labeled "People Kibble". I almost fell off the couch laughing.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at June 29, 2009 5:24 PM
I'm so tempted to post the lyrics to the Notorious Big song. But I think people would just have a heart attack here! So I won't!
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 29, 2009 5:26 PM
Heya Cobble! How goes it? What song are you thinking of?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at June 29, 2009 5:28 PM
Hiya Snappy! I miss you being around, also!! : )
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 29, 2009 5:29 PM
haha chiller - don't start another battle over using inappropriate words!!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 29, 2009 5:29 PM
The What song by Notorious Big
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 29, 2009 5:30 PM
Ashy to classy... That's how us natives roll, right What?
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 5:31 PM
Gotta agree with ENY on the "what should a bi-racial kid" should look like. I don't think Sam was being malicious in any way but its just such a stretch to say that there is anyway a biracial kid "should" look. As Gemini said, every single human being of any racial background is made up a completely unique collection of genetic material.
Posted by: wasder at June 29, 2009 5:32 PM
Nite all :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at June 29, 2009 5:38 PM
Snappy, you're such a tease! You turn up when I've been away, and just as I sit down you leave!
Is it me?! ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 29, 2009 5:40 PM
The Human Stain with Anthony Hopkins is a great movie about a black classics professor (played by Hopkins) who passes as white and is (What will like this part) accused of racism by a student.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 5:40 PM
Snappy - Yours at 4:37 was wonderful!!
Posted by: Arkady at June 29, 2009 5:52 PM
You know you were born in Brooklyn when:
1)You say "hide and GO seek" instead of "hide and seek."
2)You ask the store attendant in Ohio why they're not stapling your bag closed.
3)You refer to the intersection of Nostrand and Flatbush as "the Junction."
4)You took a car service before ever taking a yellow cab.
5)You've played stoop ball at least once and your first playground was an alleyway.
6)You know (or know of) the "killer" move in handball that makes the ball drop down the wall after hitting it.
7)You remember when you were glad you didn't live in neighborhoods that you are now priced out of.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 5:54 PM
8)You remember the ice cream shop Jaahn's (could be Queens too)
9)You don't like to go into Manhattan unless you have to pick up a check. And you NEVER want to go to Jersey!
10)You think complimentary pickles in the diner is as expected as complimentary ice cream in Chinese.
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 6:02 PM
Good night all!
Posted by: Joe from Brooklyn at June 29, 2009 6:04 PM
Dibs, wow, this is too much for my brain to figure out, at least I am getting tired. Because of my fatigue, it gets harder for me to try to say things in non-inciting ways.
I noticed your apology to the What last week. Let me try to explain something that happened to me recently: A friend told me I needed to apologize for something I said. I did and asked for forgiveness. She said okay. I felt greatly relieved, until then she made the forgiveness conditional on something else, and then said 4 other things about me she didn't like. So that took back the whole apology acceptance and made it worse (to me). Because of my own experience, I thought I recognized something like that in your apology to the What.
The apology has to be complete. I am not saying one is ready to apologize, nor make a judgment about an apology being warrented. (Gheesh, I am getting in the middle of things too much.)
I still think incitements are made to the What, when understanding and listening are needed. And incitefully speaking as gently as I can, Dibs, I sense anger from you, too. The What has outright stated he has some problems with anger so that is in the open.
So I am saying let us address the What on what he is saying without name calling. I can tell the What is doing less name-calling, himself.
And about n's and f's, perhaps those could be dropped, but the feelings underneath are still there. The What is upset and I wish we'd address that and stop name-calling so we can all get back to whatever we are getting back to. The post I received from you even has name-calling of the What.
I have been called names by both of you before, and perhaps it was deserved.
The What has something to offer and when he leaves the OT two days, the whole open thread is about him and where he is.
And Dibs, the whole class/race warfare thing is way over my head. If we know that as a problem, maybe we can stay away from it.
It is commonly known that the n word incites people. Write one of those and almost everyone on OT is in a dither. Then almost everyone's brain chemicals go into overdrive. I have read that that rush of many brain chemicals can actually lead to addiction and one does it again.
Dibs, nothing to do with you and The What -- but about the brain-chemical thing, just look at how Sam's comment is blown and twisted out of proportion.
Good-bye for today, dear many-talented Dibs. Except for this, I still think this is not so much about the n word as it is a sense of justice and wanting to be recognized. Who does not want love and recognition?
Well, now I am really tired, so read the above with caution.
Posted by: BklynSoFar at June 29, 2009 6:06 PM
>Dibs, nothing to do with you and The What -- but about the brain-chemical thing, just look at how Sam's comment is blown and twisted out of proportion.>
Actually, ENY is way too polite, as usual.
Posted by: denton at June 29, 2009 6:25 PM
BklynSoFar,
You sound like a very sweet person but I think you are taking all of the OT banter too much to heart. The conversation does get heated and tiresome sometimes but people get over it quickly in general. Also, I think many (not all) posters can disagree strongly with an particular opinion without it affecting their overall view of the individual with whom they disagree.
Finally, I think that it would get boring if everyone agreed on everything and held their tongue all the time.
You should come to the next Brownstoner poster get-together. I think you would be pleasantly surprised by how well most people get along, although admittedly this is a self-selecting group each time.
Posted by: etson at June 29, 2009 6:25 PM
bklynsofar- I'm not sure how long you've been on brownstoner and I agree that DIBS can sometimes be a wee bit inciteful :-). That said, and having myself (along with many others) born the brunt of the What's rants- usually for no good reason) I am pretty much done with listening to him. Or believing him. In fact, I am a little suspicious of your post ( you sound a little New Agey/ touchy-feely to me) but maybe you are speaking maybe from the heart- and more from lack of experience. DIBS did nothing wrong and the what not only keeps beating a dead horse, he keeps beating the wrong dead horse.
There's a point at which, despite all reasonableness and logic, someone wants to create a false battle and flay everyone else with it. The What is doing exactly that- I don't believe for a moment he's really outraged over dibs' use of the n-word. He just wants everyone to think so, for several reasons:
1.It's his persona
2.He hates dave.
3.He's over invested in his own hype. And once you fall for your own hype, you have problems.
Plenty of us have tried to "talk" to the What, to treat him respectfully, to listen. His idea of listening is for you to accept completely and wholly everything he says.
Posted by: bxgrl at June 29, 2009 6:33 PM
Sorry I missed the last 2 hours.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 29, 2009 6:49 PM
my innocent comment, an observation really, that Jackson's kids do not look anything like him or his parents, has upset some and made them call me unpleasant names. Remarkable. If you think the kids do bear some resemblance to the Jackson family that's fine, we are all entitled to our opinions.
I could be mistaken, we have not seen much of them without veils and masks. Now, I would assume his family will allow people to see the kids and maybe I will change my mind. But the littlest one is an aryan uber-blond. Anyway, I pity kids who grow up under a literal veil of lies. Someone has to love them, respect them, and tell them the truth.
Posted by: sam at June 29, 2009 6:55 PM
sam- A friend of mine has biracial child who could almost be Nordic except his coloring is not quite pale. Does have lovely blonde curly hair though. Had another friend who also had a biracial child- also blond and with blue eyes. - And I know for a fact these are biological children. Considering we are none of us genetically "pure"- nothing is impossible.
Ultimately I don't it's as important as whether or not these children are loved- and I'm sure they are. I know you mean well and maybe stated things not so well. But I get very uncomfortable when people get discussed the way the AKC discusses bloodlines.
Posted by: bxgrl at June 29, 2009 7:15 PM
Sam, I don't think anyone was really upset with you for questioning whether or not the kids are actually Jackson's. Hell, millions of folks had the same question. I think the problem was in your statement of what biracial kids look like and the seeming conclusion that those children don't fit the physical bill of what biracial kids 'should' look like. There are no 'should's in what a kid looks like. I would love to show you pics of my best friend's little boys. You would never know they had a black mother. I think Bxgirl hit the nail on the head with the analogy of discussing the kids "the way the AKC discusses bloodlines."
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at June 29, 2009 7:33 PM
Hello, Etson. You are right -- I have just been thinking about the What. He wrote that he won't go to the get-togethers because he knows he has anger issues, that he is a big guy, and doesn't want to get angry and hurt someone. I take this at his word. He is being honest and I appreciate his thoughtfulness (at knowing his limitations about possibly smashing someone). I sense a rage-level that comes from growing up in the Bed-Stuy conditions that the What, has himself described. I believe this isolates the What. I wasn't going to address the What directly, then today decided to. The What is very smart. (Rage such as the What has described and disagreement banter are different.)
As you noticed -- it has taken me a long wordy way around the bend to get into this -- was going to ignore for a long time. Etson, I know my abilities to be adept with a witty, cutting phrase. Those two things together can have a devastating effect. Won't do any good to anyone here or anywhere.
Sheesh -- new-agey? Yuck. I am biting my tongue here, BTW.
Posted by: BklynSoFar at June 29, 2009 7:55 PM
Dibs, don't know if you saw my note to you at 6:06 PM. Was trying to answer you both. Don't know if I can get much on-line time tomorrow.
Posted by: BklynSoFar at June 29, 2009 7:56 PM
I agree I agree and I retract any and all comments about biracial children now and forever. We are all bi-racial, and multi-racial. except for MJ's youngest child who is 100% Scandinavian. No, sorry, I mean melanin-challenged.
bxgirl, your post was so elegant, thank you, it took me two minutes to figure out what AKC was, at first I thought you meant something awful, but then it clicked, oh, american kennel club. I know them, I have a Scottie.....
G'night!
Posted by: sam at June 29, 2009 8:17 PM
I call white people Asshats and that is not racist because I said so. I want the world to apologize to me because I feel slighted when called out on my racism.
PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!!!!
Last week was a turning point. I finally admitted that my mother hit me with a 2 x 4, which is why I have so many mental problems.
PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!!!!
If I insult and race-bait all of you but you all "ignore" me, am I really insulting anyone?
PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!!!!!
Marry me, Dave.
Ms. What (Shoving skittles up my rectum with a baseball bat. Taste the rainbow!)
**** This war is over, I lost and I can't admit it. ****
Posted by: ghettoazzpnkbtch at June 29, 2009 8:43 PM
BklynSoFar I just want to say thank you for reaching out to me. I think you're sincere and trying to find out what make "The What" tick. I tell you what just observe the comments here and draw you own conclusion. I not a angel nor I'm trying to be a saint. I speak from my heart about today's issues and not some crack induced BS. I thnk people hate me because 80% of my predictions came true (Crash 08, Welfare Condo's and the economy) and the NY Magazine story!
There are some posters I get along with and I want to apologize to them for changing my "Rules of engagement", Sorry Biff and Cobblehiller I was very upset last week and both became "Collateral Damage"!
Dave you are coming off very disingenuous! I know you're not a dummy and you knew that word would set off a S*** Storm, especially from me! Then you want me to accept your apology, you sound like Krammer fro using the "N Word". Look Dave just leave me alone OK? I'm not bothering you and don't want to engage ether. Ok it's over guys...
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 29, 2009 9:25 PM
I am trying to apologize so that you don't "ignore" me when that feature is available.
I want to be able to continually insult all of you.
Please don't "ignore" me!!!!
Posted by: ghettoazzpnkbtch at June 29, 2009 10:08 PM
The What - thank you for the compliments. You made me both LOL and smile today. Will have to go off-line soon.
Posted by: BklynSoFar at June 29, 2009 10:51 PM
Ghettoazz -- none of us likes to be ignored. Do you like it when you make witty comments and people write back to you, affirming your brilliance? Do you want to be ignored? Each one of us gets something from writing here, including ghettoazz.
I am tired of the jests about the What. It took me a long time of reading to come to some kind of thing about this. Even had to check a couple of books. Maybe I'll get insulted again and will deal with it later. We all need love and attention, including ghettoazz. That is the bottom line of just about everything.
Each one of us here gets something from it, when we write something and boom! someone answers. This blog contains some type of social interaction that most people need. I am seeing that this is some type of family.
BTW, your choice of a log-in name is superb. I have an idea who you are but will hold it for now, as I am often wrong.
Do you want me to get all "cracko" and say I think ghettoazz is in love with the What, and is jealous of Dave?
These satirical expressions could go on and on to blood- dripping daggers. Isn't it time to change course a'ready?
Posted by: BklynSoFar at June 29, 2009 11:26 PM
No, What, I don't consider what "The What" might think about anything before I post it. Is that a requirement here???
bxgrl has it right: "His idea of listening is for you to accept completely and wholly everything he says."
Never any room for discussion. Everyone just needs to agree with every point he makes, no matter how ludicrous, inane or illogical. Like a crazy man.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 30, 2009 8:38 AM
"none of us likes to be ignored."
But some deserve to be whether they like it or not.
The What is worst kind of internet forum troll -- the kind who has become emotionally dependent on getting responses and keeps upping the ante on his stupidity to ensure he keeps getting attention.
Ignore buttons were INVENTED for posters like that.
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