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June 18, 2009
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Just wanted to thank Biff for setting up what was imo the best Brownstoner meeting to date. Plenty of space, plenty of bartenders, plenty of Asshats. A great time. Thanks Biff!
Posted by: denton at June 18, 2009 9:17 AM
Yes thanks Biff for everything. I had a really good evening.
Posted by: Amzi Hill at June 18, 2009 9:20 AM
Wonderful evening, how great that we had the garden! Excellent to see some new faces, and many of the PLUSAs. Biff, thanks for finding Rope — just perfect!
CG-ups, didn't see you as we were leaving, hope you got home ok.
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 9:24 AM
Good times - nice talking to you folks. You're just as interesting in real life as you are in text format!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 18, 2009 9:25 AM
where is report on everyone's behavior. A little gossip even if not true would be appreciated.
Posted by: Petebklyn at June 18, 2009 9:25 AM
where is report on everyone's behavior. A little gossip even if not true would be appreciated.
Posted by: Petebklyn at June 18, 2009 9:25 AM
It was a great time, again! As always, great to catch up with familiar people and meet new ones. My only regret at these events is that I never seem to have enough time to talk with as many people as I would like for as long as I would like.
And as Denton and Amzi said - really appreciate Biff's efforts in setting it up.
Posted by: etson at June 18, 2009 9:26 AM
The worst behavior was all the 'Stoners that smoke! Wassup with that? Is home ownership that stressful?
Posted by: denton at June 18, 2009 9:30 AM
"Is home ownership that stressful? "
I wouldn't know :(
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 18, 2009 9:33 AM
And did Mr. B show up? Didn't see him when we left at 10PM. Biff does it his his own hood, and he bails?
Posted by: denton at June 18, 2009 9:33 AM
Mr B was there for a while.
Posted by: etson at June 18, 2009 9:35 AM
Mr B was there for a little bit. He got cornered by Arkady and Snappy for a good majority of the time ;)
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 18, 2009 9:36 AM
My pleasure, everyone. I thought it went really well and was very happy with Rope...the pre-event pub crawl to find a suitable venue seemed to pay off. I want to thank Rope's Manager, Frank, and the two incredibly friendly and efficient bartenders (one was Paul and unfortunately I didn't catch the name of the woman...they were both terrific). Other than the fact it was a slight hike from public transportation, I thought it was an ideal bar.
Thanks to all who attended, especially the first-timers such as Arkady, christopher and Heather, the injured but very game Snappy and CG ups, and Nokilissa, whom we were thrilled to see re-emerge. Also many thanks to sixyears and jessibaby for the ride home.
I counted 31 attendees, which is what I predicted. Let me know if I'm missing anyone; for some reason my mind is a bit fuzzier than usual today:
Daveinbedstuy, Nokilissa, Arkady, Dirty Hipster, cmu, Denton & Mrs. Denton, wasder, Cobblehiller & Better Half, infinitejester, Biff, Arkady, CG Ups & Friend, Amzi Hill, Montrose Morris, Mr. B, Bxgrl, Heather & (Adorable) Child & Other Half, Rob, InsertSnappyNameHere, sixyearsandcounting, Jessibaby, christopher, etson, More4less, Mopar, DeLepp.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 9:36 AM
I couldn't stand those "old" people. Sell the house for cheap and move to Arizona already. Dont we also have an age cutoff at the other end (ie noone under 30 allowed)? Why weren't there some verbal and/or hand-hand combat? Couldn't stand see everyone being friendly, laughing,..... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Posted by: more4less at June 18, 2009 9:36 AM
ok, sorry I missed him then.
Posted by: denton at June 18, 2009 9:36 AM
Pete, You asked for it...
Snappy, bxgrl and I did a strip tease on the bar, everyone threw money! What came, in a suit and tie, turns out to have quite the charming party persona and regaled us all with tales of his recent adventures in Antartica. etson and M4L got into a fist fight and had to be separated for a time, but no blood was shed. Noki and MM turn out to be 4th cousins twice removed! Denton played the saxaphone, and Mrs. Denton turns out to be a drop dead double for Ella Fitzgerald! Jessi and six apparently have run off to Las Vegas for a quicky wedding, we threw rice!
[Note: None of this is even remotely true, but it entertained me to write it! ; )]
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 9:37 AM
Oh, and of course a huge thank you to Mr. B. Without him, none of this would happen. Some real friendships have been formed outside of this online world because of him.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 9:39 AM
I learned alot about alternative uses for ping pong balls in bangkok....
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 18, 2009 9:41 AM
DH, they used on fishing lines. when you see it giggle around, a fish is on the hook, yank it up
Posted by: more4less at June 18, 2009 9:43 AM
I had a great time & am very glad I managed to get my geriatric bones over there. All kinds of erroneous presuppositions about "names" were shattered AND somehow Biff even managed to keep the rain off for the first time in recent memory! Thanks, Biff!
Posted by: Arkady at June 18, 2009 9:45 AM
given I haven't been ding'd for my earlier post, guess Arkady is still in bed recovering.
Posted by: more4less at June 18, 2009 9:45 AM
haha m4l re: fishing lines and age cut off on the bottom end
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 18, 2009 9:48 AM
"All kinds of erroneous presuppositions about "names" were shattered" although I was bored to tears by the maundering thoughts of some callow youths whom I'd thought might be interesting people...
Posted by: Arkady at June 18, 2009 9:49 AM
Last night was great! Biff (or should I call you Ben Cohen), you were *hilarious* in the cab! Snappy, I hope you got home alright!
Posted by: jessibaby at June 18, 2009 9:50 AM
Thanks Biff for putting together a fun evening. Now can you work your magic on this weather.
Posted by: DeLepp at June 18, 2009 9:51 AM
Sounds like I missed a good bash!
Posted by: the chicken at June 18, 2009 9:55 AM
Question of the day is....DIBS is M4L everything that you expected him to be?
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 18, 2009 9:56 AM
"Biff (or should I call you Ben Cohen), you were *hilarious* in the cab!"
JB, you can call me Ben Cohen, Ben Dover, Ben Gay or whatever you want as long as you and your blogmantic partner continue to make sure I get me home safely.
I forgot to add DeLepp's guest to the list of attendees.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 9:57 AM
sorry I missed the strip tease and fistfight. How much money did they throw.. And was it to take off more or put back on?
Posted by: Petebklyn at June 18, 2009 9:57 AM
chicken I missed it too. No worries, we'll have a mini one in our hood when you're back (Biff will be the master organizer, of course).
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 18, 2009 9:57 AM
"make sure I get me home safely"
Yes, my mind is fuzzy indeed.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 10:01 AM
and DIBS' stories about Thailand are even more entertaining in real life!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 18, 2009 10:06 AM
Mornin' all!
Spanish lesson in ten minutes and need to work on my habia/habias/habia/habiamos/habian estado...ando/iendo,
but a quick thank you to Biff and to everyone who turned up and made for one of the most pleasant evenings I have had in ages (sans better half of course!) What a great bunch of asshats :)
(I think What had climbed up that rusty pole o'nine tails in the back of the garden and was watching us, chin in palm, from the roof of the building. I could feel it).
Posted by: Nokilissa at June 18, 2009 10:08 AM
"(I think What had climbed up that rusty pole o'nine tails in the back of the garden and was watching us, chin in palm, from the roof of the building. I could feel it)."
Rocket Launcher in hand....
The What (Nov '09 at The Outpost)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 18, 2009 10:13 AM
The Outpost doesn't have beer on tap, What. That's a dealbreaker.
Was great meeting you all! Wish I could have stayed longer, although it was probably good for my not-smoking that I did not. (Thanks for the cigarette, Arkady :))
Posted by: Heather at June 18, 2009 10:19 AM
Noki! Did you end up driving Rob home?
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 18, 2009 10:21 AM
Noki and I dropped Rob off on the corner of his street.
Posted by: etson at June 18, 2009 10:23 AM
Cool - seemed like Rob had a great time!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 18, 2009 10:25 AM
Can somebody read the BedStuy crime blotter for last night / this morning? DIBS is mysteriously absent this morning. Hope Snappy and CG got back ok too.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 10:35 AM
DH, email me (crownofbk @ gmail dot com) if you want to swing by check out the crown heights place. I'll be back in town and over there more often (to start the renov on it) starting July
Posted by: more4less at June 18, 2009 10:37 AM
> (I think What had climbed up that rusty pole o'nine tails in the back of the garden and was watching us, chin in palm, from the roof of the building. I could feel it).
Here come old flattop he come grooving up slowly
He got joo-joo eyeball he one holy roller
He got hair down to his knee
Got to be a joker he just do what he please
> I could feel it
Hold you in his armchair you can feel his disease
Posted by: Expert Textpert at June 18, 2009 10:38 AM
I had a great time, and finally got to talk to some people I've met before, but have never really chatted with, specifically infinite jester, dirty hipster and DeLepp. Next time, mopar and Snappy, 6 and jessi, we're sitting down together for a longer conversation. Mr and Mrs Denton, too. I enjoyed meeting new faces like Arkady, but missed christopher and heather. Everyone else, I thoroughly enjoyed our time together and look forward to next time. Good to see Mr. B, and to our cruise director, Biff, it was a great location. So good to not have to scream to speak to anyone. The vocal chords thank you.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at June 18, 2009 10:39 AM
Nice chatting with you too MM! I had nightmares about High School last night ;)
Cool m4l - I'll shoot you an email next week. will be out on "strong island" (haha) for father's day this weekend. nice to finally meet you!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 18, 2009 10:45 AM
"> I could feel it
Hold you in his armchair you can feel his disease"
come together - right now.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 18, 2009 10:49 AM
DH, I'll be in N. Carolina till beginning of July - visiting the in-laws
Posted by: more4less at June 18, 2009 10:50 AM
Morning asshats! I had a helluva time getting out of bed this morning...who knew three measly beers could tank me like that! Last night was fun, if not treacherous with the cane on gravel :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at June 18, 2009 10:50 AM
> come together - right now
Over me
(That's what she said)
Posted by: Expert Textpert at June 18, 2009 10:52 AM
"The Outpost doesn't have beer on tap, What."
Good I will have your undivided attention.
Note to Benson- I know we have our differences but I would like to thank you for calling Brownstoner on his Bullshit! Great Job Benson!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 18, 2009 10:53 AM
uh oh inlaws!! gotcha, i'm sure we'll be able to work something out.
jeez - its almost july already? it does NOT feel like it.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 18, 2009 10:55 AM
DH, I don't even monitor the calendar for what month we're in. I'm zero'd in on counting down the days btwn pay days
Posted by: more4less at June 18, 2009 10:58 AM
Snappy, so great to see you, you are a real trooper! I still owe you a drink! I was mortified when I woke up this morning and realized I had welched, yet again, on my promise! DOH!
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 10:58 AM
"Good I will have your undivided attention."
You already have our attention What!
Btw, do you roll your own cigarettes by any chance?
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 11:00 AM
FYI, DIBS just popped up on the NYC down 40% thread
Posted by: more4less at June 18, 2009 11:02 AM
"Btw, do you roll your own cigarettes by any chance?
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 11:00 AM"
You're confusing him with me Cobby!
Posted by: the chicken at June 18, 2009 11:02 AM
"Btw, do you roll your own cigarettes by any chance?"
haha!! how funny would it be if the what was that hipster guy!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 18, 2009 11:02 AM
cobble, that guy looked too young
Posted by: more4less at June 18, 2009 11:03 AM
Here now. Had to go to a presentation on Nuclear Energy that started at 8:30.
Yes, it was a great evening. m4l was better looking than he had let on to be as well as taller. But the surprise was deLepp's bf!!!! Muy caliente!!! LOL
No, dh...it still feels like April with all this shit weather. Global warming??? ROTFLMMFAO.
Takeaway from the presentation: Don't invest in uranium, invest in the plant builders. We own Toshiba (Westinghouse).
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 18, 2009 11:04 AM
"cobble, that guy looked too young"
Well, it can't hurt to ask! What if...
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 11:04 AM
haha, another funny thing that happened last night was Rob offered *me* to buy *him* a drink...
Posted by: jessibaby at June 18, 2009 11:05 AM
Cobble, no problem! If I had one more drink last night I'd have more problems today than a sore foot!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at June 18, 2009 11:05 AM
anybody look at the 10 day forecast? it does not look pretty...no sun until NEXT saturday.
Posted by: boofer at June 18, 2009 11:08 AM
"If I had one more drink last night I'd have more problems today than a sore foot!"
I had 3, yep, count 'em THREE, 3 glasses of wine...I'm a little "foggy" this morning! YOWCH!
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 11:09 AM
JB, I volunteered to buy him & friend a drink and gave him a slice. BTW, you turned out to be cuter than the "cute" I was expecting. 6yrs, don't let her out of your sights - ie "good catch" attracts a ton of competition
Rob, those bartenders wouldn't have given you a drink cause you were toast my friend.
Posted by: more4less at June 18, 2009 11:13 AM
LOL...I guess some of us PLUSAs have to better learn how to soak up alcohol so we can truly hang with the big boys!!!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at June 18, 2009 11:15 AM
"anybody look at the 10 day forecast? it does not look pretty...no sun until NEXT saturday."
really depressing boofer :(
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 18, 2009 11:16 AM
Did Rob get home ok? He seemed pretty toasted alright...I worry about you Rob.
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 11:16 AM
if the rain comes, they run and hide their heads.
They might as well be dead.
If the rain comes. if the rain comes.
When the sun shines, they slip into the shade.
And sip their lemonade.
When the sun shines. when the sun shines.
Raaaaaaa-aaaaain, i don't mind.
Shiiiiiii-iiiine, the weather's fine.
Posted by: Expert Textpert at June 18, 2009 11:17 AM
"Had to go to a presentation on Nuclear Energy that started at 8:30.
Takeaway from the presentation: Don't invest in uranium, invest in the plant builders. We own Toshiba (Westinghouse).
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 18, 2009 11:04 AM"
Nuclear IS THE FUTURE!!!!
Posted by: the chicken at June 18, 2009 11:22 AM
Cobblehiller,
Rob, Noki and I got a cab. We dropped Rob off on his corner. We did not see him in to his apartment, but he seemed OK. Sure he is fine.
Posted by: etson at June 18, 2009 11:23 AM
Sorry I missed everyone. Sounds like a great time. I will try to make the next one.
Posted by: slopefarm at June 18, 2009 11:23 AM
"Rob, Noki and I got a cab."
Thanks etson, very glad to hear this!
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 11:25 AM
hey. nice to see everyone! wish i could have been more mobile, but had a good time. i somehow managed to limp home with some help. thanks to everyone for arranging, and showing up, and being a very nice, laid back group of people. :)
Posted by: CG_ups at June 18, 2009 11:28 AM
"i somehow managed to limp home with some help."
CG, I looked for you as we were leaving about 10:15/30 or so, sorry we missed taking you with us.
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 11:30 AM
Yes, chicken it is. But alas, the US will lag the rest of the world in new nuclear reactors. Of all the reactors to be builkt globally between now and 2020, China India and Russia will build 52% of them and the US will build 5%.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 18, 2009 11:32 AM
We slow on solar & wind deploymt too
Posted by: more4less at June 18, 2009 11:35 AM
Have to chime in- I had such a great time and everyone was so much fun. Rob and I talked a lot and he did get home ok.Biff- you're a peach! MM and I protected Amzi from his many admirers (he's reserved for my niece, dammit!) and we walked almost to Atlantic Ave, admiring the gorgeous houses and the company of deLepp and M4L. See guys- I told you he was cute! I enjoyed meeting all the usernames :-). Biff (and I realize we all recovering from hangovers this morning) when's the next one?
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 11:36 AM
Yes, only one new nuclear project in the US that timeframe -NRG's South Texas 2 project. Still in the approval process(and NRG is the subject of an unsolicited takeover bid from Excelon).
They have a design partnership with Toshiba, which they are hoping to leverage into designing reactors elsewhere.
Posted by: etson at June 18, 2009 11:37 AM
Don't worry - the US will have to come around. It's inevitable.
In the meantime, buy Areva (CEI FP) - biggest builder of nuclear power stations in the world.
Posted by: the chicken at June 18, 2009 11:37 AM
someone once told me long ago, that i should not be allowed out in public, due to my ferral upbringing. if i offended anyone last night, i apologize. :(
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 18, 2009 11:38 AM
cobblehiller, no worries! it was probably my fault. once i decide i'm done, i tear outta da joint. :)
Posted by: CG_ups at June 18, 2009 11:38 AM
Solar, in the form of photovoltaics, is not ecconomically feasible at current prices. It has to be subsidised by the government which, by definition, will continue to make it inefficient.
In reality, coal is still the most efficient here in the U.S.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 18, 2009 11:40 AM
Hey What;
I'm taking a long vacation from Brownstoner, both posting and lurking (of course,there's no way to prove the latter point, but take my word on it).
Before I do,I have something to say to you: you are right about Mr. B. I find it interesting that the three men in this on-line community who were born in Brooklyn (you, me and East NY'er) see this guy for what he is.
I want to tell you something: I was born in a cold-water flat right on the edge of the Red Hook waterfront. My parents were both destitute, as they were both products of broken immigrant homes. After that shack burned down, we were placed in the Red hook Projects. My father never gave in to the temptations of the Red Hook waterfront: the loan sharking, the racketeering,etc. He made an honest living to pull us up, and I never forget it. I know what it means to have to pull yourself up by your bootstraps. When I was 10, I was helping my father on some contracting work he was doing on the side,and he suddenly told me: "You are a smart boy, but I have no money for school. You have to earn your way", which is exactly what I did: scholarships to high school,college and then grad school (and I am proud to say, not just any grad school, but Standford Engineering.
I tell you this because I have utmost respect for ANYONE who tries to accomplish something in this life,and furthermore, I realize that even the greatest baseball players (to use an example) only bat an average of 0.330, meaning that 2 out of 3 times they don't make it to first base.
As you can well sense, here we have a guy who is either a trust-fund brat or made his money easily in some bubble. As such, as only such a person can do, he can easily mock and dismiss the works of others. Architects? Pieces of shit. Developers? Greedy. People who live in Fedder homes? "Ignorant" (to use his exact words). Pastors who have to struggle with a 60-person congregation and must make a hard decision what to do about a decripit old building? Why, he can breezily state from his keyboard that he is a philistine, and his acolytes pile on by calling the guy "venal" and "greedy". A guy on Ocean Ave who tried to legally sell his home to a developer? Why Mr. B. laughs at his loss in value when the home is landmarked, and invites everyone else to do so (remember that one What)?
A developer who goes belly-up? Mr. B also invites derision.
It irks me to no end to see a brat like this guy put down the efforts of others without a moment's thought. Disgusting. I'll tell you this. If a guy like Mr. B. tried some of these stunts in the old days of Brooklyn, he would have received some "attitude adjustments" in a bar.
So,in conclusion, What, I'll once again say that you were right,and you've got his number. As you said, we've had our differences, but I give you mucho credit on that one.
Good-bye to all. I need a vacation from the negativity of this site. It speaks VOLUMES about the state of this site that the OT gets the most hits. Most of you can ignore the negativity that permeates the editorial side of this site, but I can't, at least right now. I need a summer vacation, and maybe I'll be back then. I'll miss the OT and bantering about with you. The OT and the get-togethers are great: people of different backgrounds forming a community.
Posted by: benson at June 18, 2009 11:40 AM
"Biff (and I realize we all recovering from hangovers this morning) when's the next one?"
I don't know. What's everybody up to tonight?
(that's a joke)
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 11:42 AM
Yes, wind also is unreliable and needs subsidies. The TX power grid nearly crashed one day last year because the wind was not blowing enough! Various US states have set unrealistic targets for the % of generation that they want to come from renewables.
But as investments you have to look at 1) whether governments are changing subsidy levels and 2) cost of conventional energy sources (higher cost oil / nat gas is positive for alternative fuels because it closes the cost gap somewhat).
Nuclear is the most efficient marginal cost, coal is most efficient full cycle (including the cost of building the plant). But very few players are building coal plants now because future carbon emissions regulation is so uncertain.
Posted by: etson at June 18, 2009 11:44 AM
im gonna chime in on benson's post.. i <3 ENY, and im indifferent on the What. but sometimes i think mr b IS a complete snob. and benson man youre a cool dude dont go away because u dont always agree with what is posted.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 18, 2009 11:47 AM
Very sorry to hear that Benson. I always enjoy your informed and well reasoned insights. And I have learnt a lot about NYC from you.
You're a great guy and hope to see you again both on here and in real life.
Posted by: etson at June 18, 2009 11:47 AM
Benson, before you disappear, check out the third and bond post - there's an invite with your name on it.
Posted by: the chicken at June 18, 2009 11:47 AM
gotta love the chicken too.. someone needs to maarket that to KFC, stat!
i am on restricted duty today to clean the entire apt from top to bottom.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 18, 2009 11:54 AM
Rob, I'll believe it when you say you "have cleaned" the place
Posted by: more4less at June 18, 2009 11:57 AM
benson, that's a coward's way out. You're better than that. Who's going to run the trivia contest???
And it's Stanford, not Standford. :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 18, 2009 11:58 AM
"I'm taking a long vacation from Brownstoner, both posting and lurking (of course,there's no way to prove the latter point, but take my word on it)."
Not a bad idea Benson! I think I need a rest too.
"Before I do,I have something to say to you: you are right about Mr. B. I find it interesting that the three men in this on-line community who were born in Brooklyn (you, me and East NY'er) see this guy for what he is"
That's funny Benson because we have a different perspective of New York City from the ideas and dreams of the transplants. We know the real "New York" and I'm afraid it will come back.
"As you can well sense, here we have a guy who is either a trust-fund brat or made his money easily in some bubble. "
Benson these people had it easy. I was Born and raised in Bed Stuy and grew up in a Brownstone and took the Hard Knock of growing up in the "Hood". Before the Mutant Asset Bubble Brownstones was just a house, a place where you lived and raised your family. I think the Hyper day of the MAB has made monsters of all of us and people have no sense of hard work, just bubble mentality. Jon exploits that Bullshit for his own gain!
"As such, as only such a person can do, he can easily mock and dismiss the works of others. Architects? Pieces of shit. Developers? Greedy. People who live in Fedder homes? "Ignorant" (to use his exact words). Pastors who have to struggle with a 60-person congregation and must make a hard decision what to do about a decripit old building? Why, he can breezily state from his keyboard that he is a philistine, and his acolytes pile on by calling the guy "venal" and "greedy". A guy on Ocean Ave who tried to legally sell his home to a developer? Why Mr. B. laughs at his loss in value when the home is landmarked, and invites everyone else to do so (remember that one What)?
A developer who goes belly-up? Mr. B also invites derision."
Ding! Ding! Ding! Yes, Fuck yes. There is nothing to add Benson!
"It irks me to no end to see a brat like this guy put down the efforts of others without a moment's thought. Disgusting. I'll tell you this. If a guy like Mr. B. tried some of these stunts in the old days of Brooklyn, he would have received some "attitude adjustments" in a bar."
*** The What breakdance on the floor**** Benson in the "Good ole days" if pussies like Brownstoner post someone's house and made nasty remarks that person(s) would've rang his bell and beat the fucking shit out of him (You know I'm right)!!!! Drug Dealers, Marauding Teenagers, and Neighborhood badasses would clock the fucking shit out of this punk (Jon). I guess we live in a different time Benson.
"So,in conclusion, What, I'll once again say that you were right,and you've got his number. As you said, we've had our differences, but I give you mucho credit on that one."
No problem Benson you like Reagan and I like Carter, LMMFAO!
" need a summer vacation, and maybe I'll be back then. I'll miss the OT and bantering about with you. The OT and the get-togethers are great: people of different backgrounds forming a community."
Take a break and come back Benson. Be well...
The What (Tosses Benson a summertime supply of Skittles)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 18, 2009 11:59 AM
I had a grand time; it was a true party with everyone talking to everyone else. Finally got to meet a bunch of legends too. My one cig (thanks BH) went down easy too.
Posted by: infinitejester at June 18, 2009 12:00 PM
Holy moly Benson, I think we discussed this here before. It's a BLOG (I wish I could put that in like size 70 font). This is not CNN when you have to be neutral on the subjects and report the news (Even they don't do a good job at it). If you don't like it and think Brooklyn real estate and community is more than what Mr. B posts, start your own. It costs 20 bucks a month and there are plenty of sites to start that are user friendly (wordpress comes to mind). If you can do a better job, we'll all read it.
I might not agree with everything on here but I dig the site as well as some of the people I met, albeit briefly. There is tons of information here and I learned a lot of new things from both lurking and posting for the past half a year or so.
Rant over.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 18, 2009 12:04 PM
I also hope you don't disappear benson but I'll be honest with you. The idea of Mr. B as some evil puppetmaster pulling our strings is a little much. Any positive or nagative things on brownstoner are from us because we all read into things and assume thing that we shouldn't. I've been reading and posting on this site since it began- Mr. B tosses stuff out there and we react- or not. and lately everything thing sets you off. I don't know why- lord knows you are one of my favorite people and I love debating with you but only you could take offense at an MM article on antique doors.
And now this final diatribe on Mr. B. Sorry benson, but don't you think it's a little over the top? The guy has a blog. That's it. I'm sorry but you're projecting things onto him that maybe have more to do with you than with Jon.
And that said, again, I hope you stay- everyone asked about you last night and we missed you. One of the reasons I went was to finally meet you. None of us will agree 100% of the time but that shouldn't make us enemies, just stronger friends. Again- please stay. You'll always be my favorite curmudgeon :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 12:05 PM
I am the only one who had a hard time growing up. You were all born with a silver spoons in our mouths. I can't accept that others have a different point of view than mine. I also can't accept the responses to my post so I am going to run away before you say anything. For someone who pretends to be tough, I have a very thin skin.
I like congratulating the one person on this site who consistently curses, threatens others with physical violence and apprears to do nothing with his life on a daily basis.
I don't know any of you personally, but I will comment as if I do.
I am better than all of you and you live in my shadow.
Time to lurk and see what my childish comments do on this site.
Posted by: ghettoazzpnkbtch at June 18, 2009 12:06 PM
Oh - and if anyone lost a pack of Newports, I stole them ;)
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 18, 2009 12:06 PM
"We know the real "New York" and I'm afraid it will come back."
What a load of crap. Times have changed, What. You need to get out in the real world. You could start your own blog but that would require you to actually do something instead of just rant.
"Benson in the "Good ole days" if pussies like Brownstoner post someone's house and made nasty remarks that person(s) would've rang his bell and beat the fucking shit out of him (You know I'm right)!!!! Drug Dealers, Marauding Teenagers, and Neighborhood badasses would clock the fucking shit out of this punk (Jon). I guess we live in a different time Benson."
YEAH, civilized people don't do those sort of things. The ghetto mentality of responding to free speech with felony assault is so low class, what. it'll only get you tossed back in lockup. Fool.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 18, 2009 12:07 PM
Sorry to hear that Benson, but I hear where you're coming from.
Hope you stay, you're a cool dude and I really enjoy your posts
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 18, 2009 12:08 PM
What:
stop being such a stereotype. seriously. im as angry as you. u know that. u take it to seriously disturbing levels tho. relax. breathe. blow it in a bubble like darma says. u like bubbles, try a different one. a real bubble. let it go. the war really is over. people like us lost.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 18, 2009 12:14 PM
GOOD RIDDANCE!
You are such a Mother-F@cking HYPOCRITE! YOU JUDGE EVERYONE!
You're so god damned self-righteous and enamored with yourself and your struggle (because you clearly are the only one who has ever faced hardships and prevailed) you fail to see it.
Don't let the door hit your in your miserable, negative, ignorant, self-important ass.
Douche.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at June 18, 2009 12:15 PM
(I love THL)
Posted by: ghettoazzpnkbtch at June 18, 2009 12:16 PM
Good News!!!
Just got a nice call from our one and only BRG! Just taking a break and focusing on other things for now. She sounds good, and told me I could post a note.
I told her about all the PLUSAs asking after her at the party last night, and she was sincerely touched and thanks everyone for the well wishes!
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 12:17 PM
Hi, what and benson,
Interesting exchange.
What, you wrote: "Before the Mutant Asset Bubble Brownstones was just a house, a place where you lived and raised your family."
Wasder and I have been saying this all along. For a lot of us, it still is a house to live in and raise a family, pre-bubble, mid-bubble and post-bubble.
What and Benson, aaprt from what you think are the excesses of Mr. B's reporting and rhetoric, is there no room in the debate for a legitimate preservationist viewpoint? What and the preservationists, but not benson, are actually pretty much in agreement on AY, for example. The nature of blogging and commenting tends to lock in the extremes of everyone's views. There is actually more common ground amongst the posters here than you would know from reading the posts.
Benson, have a nice summer, chill out and hope to see you and your Borsalino sometime soon. Maybe if what shows for a gathering in the fall, you will join us too.
Posted by: slopefarm at June 18, 2009 12:17 PM
Let's hope this time he actually means it and stays the F away.
I've had my hopes shattered so many times in the past.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at June 18, 2009 12:18 PM
dipster those were most likely MY newports. hahahahah
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 18, 2009 12:18 PM
Benson:
I don't know why you say goodbye
I say hello
Posted by: Expert Textpert at June 18, 2009 12:18 PM
cobble- that's great!! I'm so relieved and hoping we can all get together again soon.
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 12:19 PM
i think it is time for a group hug people. the negativity in today's OT is distressing.
***hug***
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 18, 2009 12:20 PM
benson, you're an insider here, why throw that away? Your opinions are absurd...blogs confuse you obviously.
Posted by: infinitejester at June 18, 2009 12:21 PM
rob- were those the ones you were looking for? FYI- you did nothing to offend anyone last night. You were a sweetheart. Gee- you mean you don't remember :-(
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 12:21 PM
haha Rob - Newport 100s - they were left unattended at the back table most of the night. I swiped them when we all had to go inside. If they are, I'll hook you up with a replacement pack when you return to work!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 18, 2009 12:22 PM
no, sometimes i say weird things to people, bxgrl. nothing bad, but maybe off the cuff type stuff.
it was awesome talking to u in person :)
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 18, 2009 12:25 PM
"What a load of crap. Times have changed, What."
No Hot Money poured into the Leviathan called The Mutant Asset Bubble and changed the psychology of worth is asset classes.
"ou could start your own blog but that would require you to actually do something instead of just rant. "
I love how the way everyone tells me to "start my own Blog" but I fucking like it right here Bitches!
"YEAH, civilized people don't do those sort of things. The ghetto mentality of responding to free speech with felony assault is so low class, what. it'll only get you tossed back in lockup."
Dave certain people don't care about going to jail. That's the part of living in New York baby you don't understand. For example if you're caught with a unlicensed Gun that 3.5 years in state prison but to a Younging that's five minutes dumbfuck. That ignorance can cost you your life! The funny thing is you and the retards have no clue about New York, it can become very violent.
I want you to continue on your merry way Assholes because very very soon it's going change. Someday this war is gonna end..
The What (Five months Jackasses)
Someday this war is gonna end....
Posted by: Return of The What at June 18, 2009 12:25 PM
benson, you were missed last night and will be missed by many if you leave here.
If you're up to it, let's get together with just a few PLUSAs for a drink, perhaps at one of the places you've suggested in the past. biffchampion@yahoo.com
I hope everything is ok at home, especially with Mrs. Benson.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 12:26 PM
yes dipster the newports 100s were def. mine, hhahhahah. and since montrose doesnt smoke and snappy sorta kinda doesnt eithe, they are mine. (they are black lady cigarettes)
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 18, 2009 12:29 PM
-(the feeling's mutual ghetto)
-"no, sometimes i say weird things to people, bxgrl. nothing bad, but maybe off the cuff type stuff."
You do that here Rob and we love you (for) in spite of it.
-Enjoy your break BRG. We just wanted to know you were o.k.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at June 18, 2009 12:30 PM
THL, even the WSJ is getting on the RHNJ route 208 wreck. An article the past 2 days. Missed Tuesday's episode but will park myself tonight to watch. Lots of agita over a blog no?
Posted by: DeLepp at June 18, 2009 12:31 PM
Sorry bout that Rob! Lets meet up next week near our offices and I'll get you a new pack. (as i've smoked most of them already)
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 18, 2009 12:31 PM
ok now ive heard it all
"certain people dont care about going to jail"
:-/ x 5000
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 18, 2009 12:31 PM
I don't get this, benson, to be honest. And I come from a similar background. There's an anti-development bias in NYC, it's all around you. DDDB and so on. It's part of living in a left-leaning city. It also stands to reason that people who buy brownstones don't like new construction. You made your choice, you bought in new construction, that's great. Some people would rather live in old construction and restore it accordingly. That, after all, is how this blog got started.
As to Mr. B's background, seems a bit unfair to speculate unless you know better. In any event, it's unlikely he's making millions off the blog. He pays a mortgage like most of us. And, his anti-development bias, if you were, attracts like-minded people. Altho strangely enuf his biggest advertisers seems to be developers. So they're not bothered.
Like the What, there are many things I miss about the old New York, about growing up in the 70s. Still, change is inevitable. I'm a New Yorker and I will never leave.
Anyway maybe I'll see you around.
Posted by: denton at June 18, 2009 12:31 PM
I heart THL!!!
THL, looking forward to the director's cut tonight of RHONJ.
Benson, last time I checked, I don't think a single PLUSA that I met was born with a trust fund and a silver spoon in their mouth. I might be wrong but not a single one struck me as such. You have noooooooo idea what's growing up tough is. Trying growing up a jew in communist Russia than get back to me. You wouldn't get into a good college period, even if you were the smartest one in the whole town. Instead ,you would be forced to serve in the army, and be beatin everyday by non-jews until you learn to defend yourself agaist at least 5. Yes, we're talking about modern day, including 90s.
P.S. I think the fedora hat or barsalino or whatever that is is pretentious and makes people look like they are better than someone else anyways. Here is some NYC hate for ya azz.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 18, 2009 12:32 PM
The wonderful thing about blogs Benson is that if you disagree with the person who writes the blog you can call them out, as you and What both do with regularity. But I can understand your desire for a break. I go up and down with this feeling, not because of Mr B's editorial take but because of the trolls and the investment that some folks have in shitting on other people. I find this tiresome and frustrating.
I hope you come back cause you have a unique take on things and are valued for that.
Posted by: wasder at June 18, 2009 12:36 PM
DIBS, you haven't recommended NLR, an ETF that tracks a bunch of nuclear-related companies. Rather than put all your eggs in one basket...
Posted by: denton at June 18, 2009 12:37 PM
This must be one of the best lunches more4less has had in months...
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 12:37 PM
> Just got a nice call from our one and only BRG! Just taking a break and focusing on other things for now.
Look for the girl with the sun in her eyes,
And she's gone.
Posted by: Expert Textpert at June 18, 2009 12:38 PM
Biff, thanks for organizing the event last night.
Good meeting everyone, sorry I had to leave early. Next time I'll stick around longer.
benson, vacations/leaves are great. Sorry we never got a chance to hoist a pint together.
Posted by: christopher at June 18, 2009 12:38 PM
sorry to have missed another fun outing
I will make it one of these days
left work kinda late and just wanted to head home
wow - seems i missed some drama on the board today
Posted by: gemini10 at June 18, 2009 12:38 PM
dipster NO some of those were soaked with angel dust!!!!
jk hahaha
yeah let;s meet up next week for lunch and make fun of the soho shopper brats
and arkady, it was a pleasure to meet you.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 18, 2009 12:39 PM
"Like the What, there are many things I miss about the old New York, about growing up in the 70s. Still, change is inevitable. I'm a New Yorker and I will never leave."
Denton get the fuck out of here!!! You know what I mean! Change is change but this shit was HYPERDRIVE!!! Name one time in New York City history when WHOLE NEIGHBORHOODS was subjugated and large numbers of people had to move out for "Progress", HUH????!!!
Name it Denton???? Fucking When???!!! Historic building torn down for shinny pieces of shit. Rents doubling and housing prices going to the moon! Guess what the retards believe this is normal now, are you kidding me????!!!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 18, 2009 12:42 PM
BRG is alive! woot! give her hugs if u talk to her outside of here. i was terrified it would be a law and order episode with biff in the arrangement po' room explaining PLUSA's
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 18, 2009 12:46 PM
"Like the What, there are many things I miss about the old New York, about growing up in the 70s. Still, change is inevitable. I'm a New Yorker and I will never leave." - What
Yeah I just love being:
1. robbed at gunpoint walking to school in 8th grade at 7 in the morning by some cokehead.
2. stabbed/sliced during a fight of 2 against 20.
3. having my jaw dislocated during a robbery of my friends nintendo while walking to my house.
(Disclaimer: All happend to me in Kensington in the 90s.)
I would just love my kids to be exposed to that as opposed to walking on the streets of Brooklyn safely (sarcasm). Oooo, this NYC is soo bad. It's actually safe to get out of the subway at midnight and walk home. Wow, who would actually want that? I want my kids to run home from school and dodge bullets, hey why not, it will only make them tougher if they survive. I'll just have like 5 kids and I figure 4 will survive the tough NYC and I'll only lose one. (more sarcasm).
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 18, 2009 12:48 PM
"i <3 ENY"
Huh? I don't know what that means.
"*** The What breakdance on the floor****"
THAT was funny!
""Benson in the "Good ole days" if pussies like Brownstoner post someone's house and made nasty remarks that person(s) would've rang his bell and beat the fucking shit out of him (You know I'm right)!!!!"
He probably is right about this.
Benson is a great guy, hands down. I agree with him that Mr. Brownstoner at times goes to far. To me, it seems that he (Brownstoner) tends to place everything in the context of historic preservation, and any views that oppose or conflict with the end goal of saving and restoring old buildings are unworthy and subject to ridicule. I try to call him out on it when I believe see it, and then move on, because it's his blog, he can say whatever he feels.
However, while no one appreciates history and historic structures more than me, I'm old enough to know that you can't save everything. Furthermore some things, although old, aren't worth saving. I don't see any of that from Mr. Brownstoner. It's almost like he's a modern-day Ellsworth M. Toohey.
The What remains the single funniest and among the most prescient posters on this blog. I don't always agree with him, but his contributions here are invaluable, although I don't approve of how he tends to sling around the insults. But he does crack me up, and he makes some very good points at times, as I see it.
Benson, take it easy my man and have a good break. Hope to hear from you again soon.
Posted by: East New York at June 18, 2009 12:49 PM
Yo, I just noticed that yesterday HOTD (385 Grand Ave) thread is gone. what happened? I hope it's not sold yet cause I like to pick it up for cheap
Posted by: more4less at June 18, 2009 12:50 PM
Benson, I will miss you as well, and even though we probably will never agree on much politically, or on other issues of the day, I always respected you, and like you very much in person. It's all just talk and opinion, that's all a blog is, and this one has brought together a disparate community of people who probably never would meet, and from it have come real friends, at least for me. I include you in that group. I hope you come back, and I sincerely wish you and your wife and family the best.
For what it's worth, I don't think too many here were born with silver spoons, and some of us have had similar, or equally challenging life circumstances. All of that shapes who we are now, and in the long run, all of us are only trying to make our lives, and the lives of those we love and respect better. I think that binds us together much more than the petty differences separate us.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at June 18, 2009 12:53 PM
Gem!! I was so sure you were there and I just missed you! You MUST come to the next one. Noki and I had a great chat about RHoNJ - we needed you in there with us!!
"I go up and down with this feeling, not because of Mr B's editorial take but because of the trolls and the investment that some folks have in shitting on other people. I find this tiresome and frustrating."
Likewise, wasder, likewise. Although I have to say I don't like Mr. B's editorial take at times. But I've lost the will/energy to fight it! LOL!
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 12:54 PM
Doggone it, I just ran out of Extra Strengh Tylenols!
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 12:58 PM
what happened to the Grand Ave house post from yesterday?
Posted by: Ringo at June 18, 2009 12:59 PM
Biff, I see the effects too - spelling errors are popping up on your posts and you haven't corrected my errors
Posted by: more4less at June 18, 2009 1:00 PM
I'm with denton and Kens on this- and i agree. Speculating about someone's background is foolish. Brooklyn wasn't the only tough place to grow up in, and plenty of us and our families did the bootstrap thing so this whole "only the Brooklyn-born know NYC" stuff to be ludicrous. (and I <3 THL too!)
"Name one time in New York City history when WHOLE NEIGHBORHOODS was subjugated and large numbers of people had to move out for "Progress", HUH????!!!"
Oh well- you were one up on us in the Bronx. The Bronx got burned down- and not for progress. Homes completely destroyed, people burned to a crisp, neighborhoods decimated- not just "subjugated". Think it was violent in Brooklyn? Oh- and did I neglect to mantion the disease factor that resulted from all the arson? And not the changing demographics but the NO demographics? You would have been considered a wuss in the Bronx. It's only been within the last maybe 10-12 years the Bronx has begun to come back. Compared to that, Brooklyn was practically a cakewalk.
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 1:00 PM
Obviously spelling is not a "Strengh" of mine today.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 1:01 PM
more4less, I hope you're also taking in the action on the "Bank Predicts NYC Market to Fall Another 40 Percent" thread. Posters are swinging away in there. What a day for you!
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 1:02 PM
"BRG is alive! woot! give her hugs if u talk to her outside of here. i was terrified it would be a law and order episode with biff in the arrangement po' room explaining PLUSA's"
You're too much Rob! I'll pass the word! : )
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 1:03 PM
am sorry - I got totally laazy!
I have to remember to Tivo RHONJ directors cut tonight as I won't be home!
Posted by: gemini10 at June 18, 2009 1:03 PM
"Yo, I just noticed that yesterday HOTD (385 Grand Ave) thread is gone. what happened? I hope it's not sold yet cause I like to pick it up for cheap"
"what happened to the Grand Ave house post from yesterday?"
It's across the street from Brownstoner's house!!!!!!!!!
The Hypocrisy on this Blog is just disgusting! At lease one thing about me I don't "Flip Flop" Assholes!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 18, 2009 1:04 PM
As an Oldie, I think everyone is losing sight of the fact that the world changes in ways both good & bad & the longer you live, the more changes occur. The purpose of this blog it seems to me is to serve as a place for an exchange of ideas &, as we saw last night, even when our basic philosophies may differ, the gumutlich is there. A totally homogeneous group would be boring. I've learned a lot of both practical & theoretical knowledge from many posts. Some of the ad hominem remarks are uncalled for but even they add to the spirit of the dialogue. Some days a neutral stimulus can just lie there while other days the same entry will start a bunch of vitriolic comments. I believe it has more to do w/ our own particular mood on a given day than w/ what specific issue is raised. I hope, Benson, that you find some tranquillity during your vacation & return w/ the general upbeat outlook you're more typically noted for.
Posted by: Arkady at June 18, 2009 1:06 PM
"gotta love the chicken too.. someone needs to maarket that to KFC, stat!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 18, 2009 11:54 AM"
I almost missed that! Thanks Rob!
Posted by: the chicken at June 18, 2009 1:06 PM
K, I managed to survive without those things happening to me, but anecdotes are just those.
I loved being able to play actual sports instead of Nintendo, with real kids on the streets.
I loved being able to get in just about every cultural institution for free.
I loved being able to take the train to Yankee Stadium and actually be able to buy box seats and see the game without paying a fortune to some effin' broker.
I loved being able to go to Times Square and see a double feature for a buck without seeing fukin' Disney all over my town.
I loved being able to ride on the outside of buses and trains.
I loved being able to get what I need from quirky local merchants who lived in my neighborhood.
I loved playing stickball with my homies, and basketball, without some damn parents trying to stick me on a team with a coach and a uniform.
I loved smelling the bread from the Silvercup factory.
I loved smelling all the other factories in NYC and knowing that all the 'poor' parents actually had jobs in them.
I loved when the stuff I bought didn't say 'Made in China'.
I loved when any working shlump like me could live in any neighborhood they wanted.
I could go on, but you get my drift. There was good and bad, but all we ever hear about is the bad. NY was a thriving place then, always was, and always will be. A lot to be said for the good old days, but I've moved on and adapted.
Posted by: denton at June 18, 2009 1:06 PM
Glad to see everyone's got their "irish up" today. Biff, you should have stopped for a V-8 at a deli, works wonders 4 the morning after.
Posted by: DeLepp at June 18, 2009 1:08 PM
Bxgrl - Bronx was HORRIBLE inthe 70's and 80's
my mom(nyc school teacher) - um her first job placement was in the south bronx in 1974 - good god what that must have been like
she said the Black Panthers used to picket out front shouting at the teachers to go home whitey - meantime here is my mom 28 years old not a racist bone in her body honestly wanting to help the youth regardless of race and she had to deal with that upon entering the school
Posted by: gemini10 at June 18, 2009 1:08 PM
so what does it mean? the grand ave house is sold? I don't care who lives across the street. I don't care if they don't like me. I like what I like and I'll buy what I like & can afford.
Posted by: more4less at June 18, 2009 1:09 PM
"Doggone it, I just ran out of Extra Strengh Tylenols!"
If you find some more will you pass some over here, PLEASE!
G*d love me, I am just too damn OLD to drink like that!
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 1:09 PM
"Oh well- you were one up on us in the Bronx. The Bronx got burned down- and not for progress. Homes completely destroyed, people burned to a crisp, neighborhoods decimated- not just "subjugated". Think it was violent in Brooklyn? Oh- and did I neglect to mantion the disease factor that resulted from all the arson? And not the changing demographics but the NO demographics? You would have been considered a wuss in the Bronx. It's only been within the last maybe 10-12 years the Bronx has begun to come back. Compared to that, Brooklyn was practically a cakewalk."
For you to experience this you birthday is before 1965. The reason the Bronx was barbeque is the speculation from the 60's Bxgrl just like today. Poverty and crime and inflation was rampant!
Why is it that you and Montrose Morris have to be Brownstoner's lap dogs???? Can anyone say anything with out the both of butting in. Do Jon have is Nut Sack down your throats??
God damn!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 18, 2009 1:10 PM
What the Sam Hill is an "arrangement po' room"?
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 1:13 PM
and I <3 denton too! I miss those same things and I know when we have to move on. It takes more hard work and gumption to make things better than it does to sit and whine about the past- denton has the right of it.
(Loved meeting your better half last night.) Sorry we didn't have more chance to talk. Hopefully next time.
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 1:15 PM
I believe Rob means, and pardon me if I am translating incorrectly...
arraignment room at the Police Station!
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 1:15 PM
biff, po is slang for the police. in texas it's po po
Posted by: DeLepp at June 18, 2009 1:17 PM
po po is used here too delepp
Um ok that 40% off NYC real estate is a funny thread - man oh man they are slinging!
Posted by: gemini10 at June 18, 2009 1:19 PM
Everyone is so fiesty today! Can we talk about kittens or something?
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 18, 2009 1:19 PM
denton, I might have came across wrong. NYC did have a lot of great things about it as well. I have great memories, otherwise I would have jetted first chance I could. I love it as well but I still wouldn't turn back the clock. Like Arkady said, as you grow up, the world changes but NYC overall, in my opinion, changed for the better, not worse.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 18, 2009 1:21 PM
TO ALL THE KIDS WHO SURVIVED THE
1930's, 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's!!
First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they were pregnant..
They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a can and didn't get tested for diabetes.
Then after that trauma, we were put to sleep on our tummies in baby cribs covered with bright colored lead-base paints.
We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, locks on doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes, we had baseball caps not helmets on our heads.
As infants & children, we would ride in cars with no car seats, no booster seats, no seat belts, no air bags, bald tires and sometimes no brakes
Riding in the back of a pick- up truck on a warm day was always a special treat.
We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle.
We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and no one actually died from this.
We ate cupcakes, white bread, real butter and bacon. We drank Kool-Aid made with real white sugar. And, we weren't overweight. WHY?
Because we were always outside playing......that's why!
We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on.
No one was able to reach us all day. And, we were O..K.
We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride them down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem.
We did not have Playstations, Nintendo's and X-boxes. There were no video games, no 150 channels on cable, no video movies or DVD's, no surround-sound or CD's, no cell phones, no personal computers, no Internet and no chat rooms
WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them!
We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no lawsuits from these accidents.
We ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever.
We were given BB guns for our 10th birthdays, made up games with sticks and tennis balls and, although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes..
We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just walked in and talked to them.
Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment.
Imagine that!!
The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law!
These generations have produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors ever.
The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas.
We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned how to deal with it all.
If YOU are one of them? CONGRATULATIONS!
You might want to share this with others who have had the luck to grow up as kids, before the lawyers and the government regulated so much of our lives for our own good.
While you are at it, forward it to your kids so they will know how brave and lucky their parents were.
Kind of makes you want to run through the house with scissors, doesn't it ?
Jay Leno
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 18, 2009 1:22 PM
"biff, po is slang for the police. in texas it's po po"
Oh, got it. When DIBS said he loves po' boys, I thought he was referring to a sandwich. Now I know what he meant.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 1:24 PM
Just came across this:
The door of a bigoted mind opens outwards so that the only result of the pressure of facts upon it is to close it more snugly. -Ogden Nash, author (1902-1971)
Posted by: Arkady at June 18, 2009 1:26 PM
i dont want to live across from million dollar homes anymore. it's wack. they are ugly and look like roach motels to me. how can those places be worth that?
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 18, 2009 1:27 PM
DIBS! - thanks for that
that's exactly how I feel - (born in the 70's)
people are sooooo ridiculous and precious about their kids. yes I know times have changed and all that crap - but maybe if we really tried to understand why it's ok to give our 9 year old a CELL PHONE than I think we would be a better society
Posted by: gemini10 at June 18, 2009 1:28 PM
what- Your personal fantasy is of the great Brooklyn savior/rebel- unfortunately that's your delusion.
So your best answer is to claim that MM and I are jon's lapdogs or have "Nut Sack down your throats??" Gosh- that makes you sound just so intelligent and really gets your point across. You also don't get what a blog is- so obvious. YOu had no real answer to what I said so throw some insult out there. I'm always amazed at how many people seem to find that refreshing or find you cute. I simply find it disappointing because on occasion I actually see glimpses of actual thought. Too bad it's always obscured by your obscenities and insults.
And read some history, What- it wasn't speculation that burned down the Bronx. No one was speculating in the Bronx- it was being written off. (And what does my birthday have to so with knowing that? My family lived in the Bronx (and still do) for several generations. I kinda think that makes me a bit more of an expert on it than you.
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 1:29 PM
Agreed gem! That was great DIBS!
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 1:31 PM
O.k....We need some cuteness.
There is a woman in Washington and she is a foster mother to little infant kittens until hey are old enough to be adopted out.
The thing is she's also a photographer and she takes the most INCREDIBLE photos of these little imps. For real, the pics are fantabulous.
scroll a few posts down and look at little babies getting all puffed up and hissing. It killed me...
http://www.theittybittykittycommittee.com/
Posted by: TownhouseLady at June 18, 2009 1:32 PM
AT 5 MINUTES AND 6 SECONDS AFTER 4 A.M., ON THE 8TH OF JULY, THIS YEAR, THE TIME AND DATE WILL BE:
04:05:06 07-08-09
THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN UNTIL THE YEAR 3009
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 1:37 PM
oh g-d! THL- please! I have enough felinity :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 1:38 PM
I LOVED those THL! Yummydeliciouscuteness!
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 1:38 PM
THL - OMG! they are tooooo cute!!
sweet
Posted by: gemini10 at June 18, 2009 1:39 PM
"I'm always amazed at how many people seem to find that refreshing or find you cute. "
Likewise Bxgrl, Likewise!
"And read some history, What- it wasn't speculation that burned down the Bronx. "
I don't have to read anything I lived thru it! So that's two questions not answered!
"No one was speculating in the Bronx- it was being written off."
Really Bxgrl buying Bronx property and finding out you couldn't squeeze the tenets and setting fire to them creating a downward spiral??!! The same thing will happen here it's only a matter of time. When the fucking Specuvestor finds out he's 50% underwater and still stuck with the Mortgage he/she will torch the living fuck out of that wonderful BROWNSTONE!!!!!!
" (And what does my birthday have to so with knowing that?"
Because you would live thru it instead of reading it Stupid asshole!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 18, 2009 1:39 PM
biff: arrangement po' room = the room u r in before getting arrested. fyi ive never been knock on cheap hardwood.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 18, 2009 1:40 PM
> AT 5 MINUTES AND 6 SECONDS AFTER 4 A.M., ON THE 8TH OF JULY, THIS YEAR, THE TIME AND DATE WILL BE:
04:05:06 07-08-09
THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN UNTIL THE YEAR 3009
- Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 1:37 PM
Where I come from, It'll happen in the P.M. also.
Posted by: Expert Textpert at June 18, 2009 1:40 PM
"i dont want to live across from million dollar homes anymore. "
You should move to where you can live across from two hundred thousand dollar homes. The Bronx comes to mind.
Posted by: denton at June 18, 2009 1:41 PM
Ok Cobblehiller and Biff I'm going to chill (For now)..
The What (Clutches the AK-47)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 18, 2009 1:41 PM
You cannot have too many pix of kits. A-DOR-able.
Posted by: Arkady at June 18, 2009 1:43 PM
What- I'm picturing you hissing and protecting his brethren like little Hubie Darling.
Seriously- if that little guy doesn't bring a smile to your face protecting all his sisters from the large interloper (he's the only boy- poor thing).
Posted by: TownhouseLady at June 18, 2009 1:44 PM
"Ok Cobblehiller and Biff I'm going to chill (For now)..
The What (Clutches the AK-47)"
Yes, It's a rainy day, relax, enjoy life a little! Asshats aren't going anywhere, they'll be here tomorrow, and the next day...and the next day! LOL! Can you just point that thing away from me?! ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 1:44 PM
This thread is all over the place today.
Posted by: infinitejester at June 18, 2009 1:45 PM
denton, 200k homes there is JuSt as absurd.
i just wish i lived on a block that wasnt either millionaires or welfare queens. oops i said that. tho i prefer welfare queens. at least they are real and nice and always offer dinner.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 18, 2009 1:47 PM
One sweet dream
Pick up the bags and get in the limousine
Soon we'll be away from here
Step on the gas and wipe that tear away
One sweet dream came true... today
More apropos, don't you agree?
Posted by: Expert Textpert at June 18, 2009 1:49 PM
You know the What has a VERY scary point....
What if many of these developers do go under water, will they resort to horrible measures and burn those buildings down to get the insurance money?
Posted by: gemini10 at June 18, 2009 1:50 PM
fyi: telling my grandmother when i moved to brooklyn...
her response.
"omg that is where poor people live"
and we we were from the projects :/
where can poor people live now? and DONT say the bronx.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 18, 2009 1:50 PM
hey what did u see what denton just said? i should live across from 200k homes lol.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 18, 2009 1:52 PM
Expert, I love how the key changes when he sings "to-day-ayy."
Also, in "Polythene Pam" the acooustic three-chord progression is in stereo the first time, then in mono only afterwards.
Posted by: infinitejester at June 18, 2009 1:53 PM
Sorry, this one is now appropriate from the same.
Thanks for the tip.
Out of college, money spent
See no future, pay no rent
All the money's gone, nowhere to go
Brooklyn!
Posted by: Expert Textpert at June 18, 2009 1:54 PM
"What if many of these developers do go under water, will they resort to horrible measures and burn those buildings down to get the insurance money?"
The moment of truth. Don't put things past people when they're desperate..
The What (Oh now you see..)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 18, 2009 1:56 PM
"Because you would live thru it instead of reading it Stupid asshole!" Thanks for proving my point, What. In that you never disappoint. (My family lived through it and I through some of it- again, creds.)
"I don't have to read anything I lived thru it! So that's two questions not answered!" Hey, Mr. Brooklyn- did you actually live in the Bronx? Nope- didn't think so. Classic What- can't answer so ergo insult and back off. Now I'm taking my AK47 and going to sulk in my room.
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 1:57 PM
Rob- Newark
http://www.trulia.com/property/1078386174-76-9th-Ave-W-Newark-NJ-07107
Posted by: TownhouseLady at June 18, 2009 1:58 PM
Textpert, that's Brushwick!
Posted by: more4less at June 18, 2009 1:59 PM
g10, at worst the banks end up owning them. They're all financed. They can be rented also. Unlike the SOuth Bronx when they were owned by individual landlords, and no one wanted to rent hem (they were rentals in the first place).
Posted by: denton at June 18, 2009 2:01 PM
more4less...just for you:
Out of college, money spent
See no future, pitch a tent
All the money's gone, nowhere to go
Bushwick!
Posted by: Expert Textpert at June 18, 2009 2:03 PM
i would never move to newark. my ass would be kicked on day one.
like i said earlier.. our country is SO 3rd world, but violent too. where do non violent poor people live now? oh yeah no where unless they want to pay like 75 percent of their paycheck. suuuuuuuuuuucks
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 18, 2009 2:03 PM
ah so in the south bronx back in the 70's - those huge multi-dwellings were owned by landlords and conceivably those LLs would have owned the buildings outright, correct? So why did they torch them? Because they had build these buildings for people with money to live in?
sorry to sound ignorant just want to have a better understanding of that time period ...
Posted by: gemini10 at June 18, 2009 2:05 PM
Rob, there's a place call
C
AN
ADA
full of conflict free people
Posted by: more4less at June 18, 2009 2:06 PM
Rob - maine
Posted by: gemini10 at June 18, 2009 2:08 PM
hells no m4less! canada is where white vegans threaten to move when things get too tough herre. im not white and im not a poosey.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 18, 2009 2:09 PM
> where do non violent poor people live now?
There is a place,
.........
.........
.........
And it's my mind
Posted by: Expert Textpert at June 18, 2009 2:12 PM
Has anyone gotten to the bottom of here-yesterday, gone-today post about the townhouse on Grand? If there was an error, Brownstoner, I'd advise you to just correct it rather than removing the post and fueling needless speculation.
If the guy running this blog won't tell us what is going on with that house, perhaps there is someone else out there who knows and will share? Many thanks.
Posted by: chebubble at June 18, 2009 2:14 PM
Oh dear g*d, are we back to figuring out just what Rob is AGAIN?!!!
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 2:15 PM
The landlords burned them down for the insurance money- many of the buildings were long ago paid off so landlords felt they had no way to make money on the building, there was no back up financing. They were losing money. they weren't speculating- there was nothing in the Bronx at that time that was attracting people, there was no gentrification movement. Partly, I think, becasue it was mostly apartment buildings. Though most were Pre-War to the 60's, they didn't have the cachet of brownstone neighborhoods and because the neighborhoods were poor,they were red lined.
It had nothing to do with speculation and everything to do with the times. denton is right except to say that most of these buildings had tenants, but they were very poor.
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 2:16 PM
" Because they had build these buildings for people with money to live in?"
Most of the South Bronx is pre war. They torched them for insurance money.
Bxgrl you're telling me a Jewish girl grew up in the South Bronx in the 70's and 80's???!!
Is that what you mean???
The What (Removing safety of the Ak-47)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 18, 2009 2:16 PM
Bxgrl/Denton - thanks! -always was so curious as my mom and I used to speed down the Cross Bronx Expressway in her Buick Skylark on our way to visit family in NJ and would marvel at the burned out shells of buildings that stood there vacant for at least the entire 80's!
Posted by: gemini10 at June 18, 2009 2:19 PM
gem- because the taxes were too high for the income, and most of the buildings were in terrible states of disrepair- it was just a horrible cycle of no money-no repair- no high ent- no repair, etc. At some point landlords decided they would make money from their insurance policies and everyone be damned.
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 2:19 PM
What...you've got your eye off of treasuries today with all this crap. My TMV is up 5.4%!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 18, 2009 2:21 PM
What happened to yesterday's HOTD on Grand Ave? Just glimpsed it on the blackberry yesterday then when I went to take a closer look today, it was gone.
Posted by: grand army at June 18, 2009 2:21 PM
Obviously What you never set foot in the Bronx. Plenty of us lived ALL OVER the Bronx. We lived more north but I had friends who lived further south. But maybe thats too complex a picture for you to grasp? (oh, I'm so afraid of you and your ak47. )
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 2:22 PM
"because the taxes were too high for the income, and most of the buildings were in terrible states of disrepair"
How old are you?????? Seriously how old are you because you're talking out of the ass..
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 18, 2009 2:23 PM
I'm guessing the Grand Ave. owner walked across the street to Mr. B's and told him to take down all the negativity or he'd ...
Posted by: dittoburg at June 18, 2009 2:25 PM
um ok totally dropping the Bronx topic
so on to kittens and flowers.... - anyone?
Posted by: gemini10 at June 18, 2009 2:26 PM
Wow, I don't even have a moment to catch up with all of this, but will do so at home in a few hours. Great to see familiar faces again, and meet new people and have my assumptions about them proven wrong. I was sure Arkady was male. Maybe we'll even get CG ups' bf and the artist/teacher at their table to log in and comment sometime.
Biff Champion - I mean, Ben Cohen - glad you got home and then to the Death Star alive and well.
Kensingtonian - hope you had a good flight even though US-based airlines suck these days. Sorry we missed you but I'll see you on Cortelyou. BTW all those rough experiences in K-town in the '90s make you a "pioneer" in some gentrifiers' books.
In other news, we're done grading the US History Regents. Winning sentence (written by an American-born student): Workers were forced to return to their pitiful homes, which were usually located in slums where sidewalks broke and sank like reenactments of the Titanic and buildings resembled fecal matter of the apocalypse.
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at June 18, 2009 2:26 PM
Mopar- You out there?
I found this very cool blog about Newburgh, NY and the restoration of the city not just a particular house:
http://newburghrestoration.blogspot.com/
Very interesting stuff.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at June 18, 2009 2:28 PM
Grand Army,
This is the Grand Ave house thread:
http://www.brownstoner.com/brownstoner/archives/2009/06/house_of_the_da_709.php
Posted by: etson at June 18, 2009 2:29 PM
"I'm guessing the Grand Ave. owner walked across the street to Mr. B's and told him to take down all the negativity or he'd ..."
HA! Good one, ditto.
Posted by: East New York at June 18, 2009 2:31 PM
Or he'd what, dittoburg? Not go to the Flea?
Posted by: chebubble at June 18, 2009 2:32 PM
Oops, full url did not come across. Last bit is 709.php
Posted by: etson at June 18, 2009 2:33 PM
It was so disappointing to see that the Restaurant of the Day photo today didn't feature a bodacious booty like yesterday's ROTD did.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 2:34 PM
Six Years
see now am thinking that the students are actually much more savvy than you think. I beleive they are writing these sentences to make sure that you the teacher are inf act reading their essays!!!
ha
Posted by: gemini10 at June 18, 2009 2:34 PM
Presdient Obama swatted a fly in a news interview yesterday.
PETA is calling it an execution and wants him to use a fly catching device so that they fly can be caught and released. Now I have heard everything.
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 2:35 PM
""I'm guessing the Grand Ave. owner walked across the street to Mr. B's and told him to take down all the negativity or he'd ...""
Ding ding ding!!!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 18, 2009 2:36 PM
Sixyears- that winning sentence was brilliant is a weird, whacked out, inaccurate way. The writer must have aspirations to being a writer or a street poet :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 2:38 PM
What, I told Mr. B last night at the gathering that I thought you owned the Grand Ave. house!
Posted by: jessibaby at June 18, 2009 2:39 PM
just cuz someone's skin is white doesnt mean they are white. you know trannies right?
i have never been a white person. from day one. i love white people tho. im also not black proper, hispanic, asian,etc.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 18, 2009 2:40 PM
"PETA is calling it an execution and wants him to use a fly catching device so that they fly can be caught and released. Now I have heard everything."
I know bxgrl, how BIZARRE and RIDICULOUS is that?? I'm just surprised that he did it himself! Isn't there a special assistant to swat flies for the guy?! ; )
Wait till they find out that I have Combat disks all around my kitchen!! And an exterminator who comes in twice a year!
I'm just gonna sit here and wait for the PETA demonstration to start outside my building for saying that! [What, I may need that AK-47 for a few days!]
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 2:42 PM
oh no! you too, cobble? well, we can share a cell in insect murderer's prison :-) I wonder if the heavy duty spray works on PETA folk?
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 2:45 PM
This is what wasder just posted about the "Bank Predicts NYC Market to Fall Another 40 Percent" thread above this one:
"Easily the worst thread of the year here at Brownstoner..."
I wasn't going to say anything, but I can't resist: that is the ONE story idea I ever sent to Mr. B to consider using on the blog. I can't believe I get credit (blame) for the worst thread of the year! Do I get a tiara?
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 2:50 PM
"I'm just gonna sit here and wait for the PETA demonstration to start outside my building for saying that! [What, I may need that AK-47 for a few days!]"
Try the Ar-15! It's lightweight and the pressure pull is light and you can Mod it to go Full Auto!
The What (Rrrrttttttttttttt!!!!! Rrrrttttttttttttt!!!!! Rrrrttttttttttttt!!!!! Rrrrttttttttttttt!!!!!)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 18, 2009 2:51 PM
"Or he'd what, dittoburg? Not go to the Flea?"
No, he "would've rang his bell and beat the fucking shit out of him."
Posted by: East New York at June 18, 2009 2:51 PM
Yes, and it'll be crowded too! They'll be taking my 5 neighbors with me when I rat on them for having the exterminator into their apt.s too!
I'm not going down alone!! LOL!
Hmm, let's try RAID!!
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 2:51 PM
Speaking of wasder, G10, he mentioned he really wanted to meet you last night and was disappointed you didn't show up...he thought it would be cool to speak to another person who is in the biz.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 2:51 PM
Maybe I should put my cats on a vegetarian diet?
The other day they killed a waterbug!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at June 18, 2009 2:52 PM
"Try the Ar-15! It's lightweight and the pressure pull is light and you can Mod it to go Full Auto"
Excellent suggestion What! I'll be over in an hour, can you load me up with some extra ammo? Come to think of it, I might need to borrow some camo too!! This could get ugly!! ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 2:53 PM
"The What (Rrrrttttttttttttt!!!!! Rrrrttttttttttttt!!!!! Rrrrttttttttttttt!!!!! Rrrrttttttttttttt!!!!!)"
I'm telling you, he's funny!
Posted by: East New York at June 18, 2009 2:54 PM
"No, he "would've rang his bell and beat the fucking shit out of him.""
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0PamtXZO70
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 2:54 PM
THL, do your cats eat the bugs after they kill them? Our big orange one does. He's 22 lbs. Too many bugs.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 18, 2009 2:55 PM
sixyears, tell that kid to get a book deal pronto! my fav was the one yesterday: "media is so out of control, there's like a thousand channels now."
Posted by: infinitejester at June 18, 2009 2:57 PM
Thanks Six but I am no where near any sort of pioneer status. Just moved to america to South Bronx first for 2 months then Kensington. See you at Sycamore soon.
Thanks for clarifying the american-born student part. I wasn't picking at you as a teacher at all, just saying that some of the students that wrote these sentences might be immigrants that lack proper grammar. Nothing more than that.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 18, 2009 2:57 PM
Thanks for that Biff! You know, that's the first time I've ever actually seen Anita Ward. Terrific song.
Posted by: East New York at June 18, 2009 2:57 PM
I missed this earlier:
"Where I come from, It'll happen in the P.M. also."
Not in military time.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 2:59 PM
The cats that used to be strays do.
The older ones that have long since put their sordid pasts behind them do not.
In fact Cookie will just knock it around and holler and yell until dad comes to kill it for her. Then she does the happy proud of herself twirling dance because she knows she's getting a treat.
For the strays the bug is the treat.
Blech!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at June 18, 2009 3:02 PM
Biff quick story! When that song came out the knuckleheads was singing "You can ring my belllllllllllllllllll ring my bell" God that was annoying!
The What (I'm commenting on a song that came out 30 years ago, damn I'm old)
Somedau this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 18, 2009 3:04 PM
They'll have to take my whole block but we've stocked up on pitchforks and torches. Those AK's can jam and then what happens when the ammo runs out? Sometimes low tech is the way to go.
DIBS- ugh! mine do (I have to hide them from PETA now).
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 3:05 PM
What, I used to have a big crush on Donna Summer. I would have loved to ring her bell.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 3:06 PM
> Not in military time.
Drill Sargeant (Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band)
Posted by: Expert Textpert at June 18, 2009 3:07 PM
THL - My guys eat flies & gnats & spiders - I don't mind that. It's the 1000-leggers that make my gorge rise. Hope PETA isn't on this blog.
Posted by: Arkady at June 18, 2009 3:07 PM
"I wasn't going to say anything, but I can't resist: that is the ONE story idea I ever sent to Mr. B to consider using on the blog. I can't believe I get credit (blame) for the worst thread of the year! Do I get a tiara?"
It wasn't the article but the (non) discussion that ensued. Trolls a plenty making a reasonable discussion impossible and therefore a complete waste of time.
Posted by: wasder at June 18, 2009 3:10 PM
What, you and I are about the same age. That WAS A REALLY BAD SONG.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 18, 2009 3:12 PM
But you still get a tiara, Biff.
Posted by: Arkady at June 18, 2009 3:12 PM
"Hope PETA isn't on this blog."
Survival of the fittest, circle of life, heck- it's what they do.
They also torture the crap out of them first.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at June 18, 2009 3:12 PM
HEY, YOU OUT THERE. THE GUY FROM THE BAR WHO CAME BACK TO MEET US. STOP LURKING AND LOGIN!!!!!!! :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 18, 2009 3:13 PM
wasder, it's all good. I thought what you said was hilarious and absolutely true. It made me laugh out loud. Actually the article wasn't great, but I thought it would lead to an interesting discussion. Not that what ensued wasn't captivating on some level; just not exactly what I was expecting.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 3:13 PM
Rob - have you ever traveled outside of the US? You might find your monolithic view of "white" people just a tad stupid if you got into a room with a white albanian, greek, south african, icelander, scot, kiwi etc.
It'd be forgiveable if you weren't living in a city with a huge number of white immigrants from all over.
Posted by: dittoburg at June 18, 2009 3:14 PM
Come to think of it, it's really dangerous - cats wear fur coats too.
Posted by: Arkady at June 18, 2009 3:14 PM
"What, I used to have a big crush on Donna Summer. I would have loved to ring her bell."
Me too. Later Retards I'm hitting the bricks..
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 18, 2009 3:14 PM
THL, one of the saddest animal things i can ever remember is when i was in a pet store once and there was this little white mouse cowering in the corner of the glass terraruium cage that had a snake in it. He knew he was going to be dinner soon.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 18, 2009 3:15 PM
"Hope PETA isn't on this blog."
Me three! They might come after me for having killed a few threads around here recently.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 3:15 PM
Asshats, please, What.
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 3:16 PM
"Come to think of it, it's really dangerous - cats wear fur coats too."
Arkady- take some comfort in knowing they are not wearing the fur coats of an endangered species. :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 3:17 PM
"HEY, YOU OUT THERE. THE GUY FROM THE BAR WHO CAME BACK TO MEET US. STOP LURKING AND LOGIN!!!!!!! :)"
Which guy was this DIBS?
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 3:17 PM
Got wool? And hide your silk, everyone!
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 3:18 PM
The guy from the neighborhood who was sitting at the bar when we arrived. biff spoke to him early on and then he came out back to meet us.
He was wearing a brown polo shirt.
I also met a young guy, hipsterish, (but I do not judge) who just bought a house on Halsey near Saraghina.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 18, 2009 3:21 PM
You did smell the clove cigarettes from that hipster girl who came out to smoke. they are almost as annoying as hazelnut coffee
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 18, 2009 3:22 PM
DIBS, is everyone under 40 considered a hipster to you? :-)
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 3:24 PM
Anyone ever gone ziplining? I am going to a resort in July that offers it.
Posted by: infinitejester at June 18, 2009 3:28 PM
I'm with you there. Hazelnut coffee. bleurgh.
Posted by: dittoburg at June 18, 2009 3:28 PM
He told me to "blog about it."
Posted by: infinitejester at June 18, 2009 3:29 PM
If I recall his name was Doug and lived on Clinton between Park and Mrytle. Had other props too.
Posted by: DeLepp at June 18, 2009 3:29 PM
DeLepp, did you give him the PLUSA brochure and schedule of upcoming training courses?
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 3:32 PM
Even put a landmark approved bow on the package.
Posted by: DeLepp at June 18, 2009 3:34 PM
We don't have time to adequately take apart Benson's tirade right now, but we find it funny that Benson and his new-found buddy, The What, can't seem to get their stories straight: Benson accuses us of being anti-development and The What accuses us of being a cheerleader for the development boom. Which is it? Sometimes the truth is a little more nuanced than that. And, for the record, we were born and raised in New York and, yes, even got mugged a couple of times in the 70s, so you two can stop pulling your city cred crap. It's getting very old. You don't have to have grown up in the Bed Stuy or the Red Hook Houses to be a New Yorker. Heck, you don't even have to have been born here. You are both blinded by your own burning self righteousness and, ironically given the humble origins you both love to brag about, sense of entitlement.
Posted by: brownstoner at June 18, 2009 3:34 PM
Biff/Wasder - I keep forgetting it was Wasder that worked in the bizz!!! -am sorry I didn;t come
Wasder - any cool projects you working on?
Posted by: gemini10 at June 18, 2009 3:35 PM
Did Randi ever show up and named the PL of the party?
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 18, 2009 3:39 PM
way to go Mr. B!
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 18, 2009 3:41 PM
I know I'm new around here, but I never got my welcome kit or 'my invitation' to the party last night.
Did I not 'carry my weight a long time'
Posted by: Expert Textpert at June 18, 2009 3:42 PM
"You did smell the clove cigarettes from that hipster girl who came out to smoke. they are almost as annoying as hazelnut coffee"
haha Dave - gotta hate those kreteks!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 18, 2009 3:42 PM
"Wasder - any cool projects you working on?"
Gemini--deep in Bonnaroo post production hell! Going to London next week to shoot concert DVD with Dave Matthews Band.
Posted by: wasder at June 18, 2009 3:53 PM
Take care of self, benson, and don't take it so seriously.
Posted by: Heather at June 18, 2009 3:53 PM
Whaddya call a bloke without a spade on his head?
Douglas.
Posted by: dittoburg at June 18, 2009 3:54 PM
good for you, Mr. B.
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 3:59 PM
Did Benson buy in the Novo or something?
Posted by: dittoburg at June 18, 2009 4:01 PM
How about this...
..."everyone is wrong. about everything. all the time."
(and I missed the memo, and am to tapped to figure it out on my own, what is PLUSA?)
Posted by: christopher at June 18, 2009 4:01 PM
> Whaddya call a bloke without a spade on his head?
A Beatle
Posted by: Expert Textpert at June 18, 2009 4:01 PM
Benson & The What both get PWNED. A twofer for Mr. B.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 18, 2009 4:03 PM
Expert Sexperv, you're always welcome at any party.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 18, 2009 4:05 PM
Did anyone collect benson's blackberry and PLUSA badge before he left?
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 4:06 PM
Did we nominate a PLUSA exit interviewer and a badge collector? I think it should be you Biff since you officially have an opening in your schedule for the time that you spent on FGVOTD.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 18, 2009 4:09 PM
> Expert Sexperv, you're always welcome at any party.
daveinbedstuy, you're calling me the name reserved for you. And from what I've read about / by you any party you're involved with, is a party I'd have to come in the back door.
[quietly turning the back door key]
Posted by: Expert Textpert at June 18, 2009 4:12 PM
Thanks for everyone's compliments on this student's future career choices. I just assumed that the phrase "fecal matter of the apocalypse" was a not-so-subtle commentary on the Gowanus Canal or Newtown Creek.
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at June 18, 2009 4:12 PM
I don't think we should mix the job of party-planner w/ that of membership secretary.
Posted by: Arkady at June 18, 2009 4:12 PM
Wasder - ohhh jealous! very cool ont he DMB front
Posted by: gemini10 at June 18, 2009 4:13 PM
Kensingtonian, can't we automate the exit interview?
We could use the COTD/HOTD widget feature for blog departees to rate various aspects of their experience here.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 4:14 PM
Expert, I've welcomed a lot of guys in my back door.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 18, 2009 4:15 PM
Based on the number of guys in his rotation, I think DIBS' back door is a revolving one.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 4:21 PM
Kensingtonian, can't we automate the exit interview?
We could use the COTD/HOTD widget feature for blog departees to rate various aspects of their experience here.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 4:14 PM
Or you can use them (exit interviews) as an excuse to research various bar locations for our upcoming parties. I see that pub crawl was a success.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 18, 2009 4:21 PM
> Expert, I've welcomed a lot of guys in my back door.
So, I've read that about you!
"Yeah, Im a back door man, Im a back door man
The men dont know, but the little girl understand
Hey, all you people that tryin to sleep
Im out to make it with my midnight dream, yeah
cause Im a back door man, the men dont know
But the little girls understand, all right, yeah
You men eat your dinner, eat your pork and beans
I eat more chicken, than any man ever seen, yeah, yeah
Im a back door man, wha, the men dont know
But the little girl understand
Well, Im a back door man"
^^^ I know it's not true to my namesake, but if I had to pick another log-in name, it would be Mr. Mojo Risin or Lizard King.
Posted by: Expert Textpert at June 18, 2009 4:23 PM
PLUSA =
Pathetic Loser Usual Suspect Asshat.
Expert, Christopher, and any other Losers...our parties are OPEN to EVERYONE. Even Asshats! ; ) Your welcome packages are in the mail, we're a little back-logged here, apologies.
Mgmt.
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 4:23 PM
(and I missed the memo, and am to tapped to figure it out on my own, what is PLUSA?)
Posted by: christopher at June 18, 2009 4:01 PM
I'll attempt to answer this one christopher.
PLUSA = Pathetic Looser Usual Suspect Asshats/Assheads.
Pathetic Looser - Contribution of Randi
Usual Suspects - not sure who but comes from Brownstoner thread of usual suspects are the evil kenivel posters that kidnap all the threads and don't let innocent lurkers post their opinions.
Asshats/Asshead - Contribution of the WHAT.
I think Biff gets the official credit of creating "PLUSA" club and is not only the president but also a member? Correct me if I am wrong on this one.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 18, 2009 4:27 PM
Should we have a blog psychologist to evaluate all the blogicides we've had here in the last month or two. I think it's fair to say there's been an epidemic.
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 4:28 PM
"I don't think we should mix the job of party-planner w/ that of membership secretary."
Exactly...the person planning and drinking at the parties should not be responsible for selecting members.
We have to be assured that we have the most upstanding members entering our circle, despite the fact we had a couple of limping members out last night.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 4:29 PM
Looser=Loser. Sorry.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 18, 2009 4:29 PM
I think rob invented "blogicide" or at least introduced us to it.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 18, 2009 4:30 PM
"Usual Suspects"
This came from the thread where Mr. B invited everyone who hates the OT to dis it, and dis us good! They called the OT people, regular posters, "Usual Suspects". It had quite the derogatory and nasty edge to it, so we adopted it for our own.
Do you notice a trend here?
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 4:31 PM
"I think Biff gets the official credit of creating "PLUSA" club and is not only the president but also a member?"
If a member commits blogicide and then comes back, does that mean he or she remembers?
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 4:31 PM
I say we nominate Rob to be official PLUSA to dub people into the PLUSA club (and kick them out). That should be fun :o). he might even get some free drinks out of it as bribes.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 18, 2009 4:33 PM
"We have to be assured that we have the most upstanding members entering our circle, despite the fact we had a couple of limping members out last night."
One of your best ever, Biff.
Posted by: etson at June 18, 2009 4:34 PM
> I think Biff gets the official credit of creating "PLUSA" club and is not only the president but also a member?
So to join the PLUSA 'club' do we approach the president?
I don't really want to stop the show,
But I'd like to know......
How do I become a card carrying member?
Posted by: Expert Textpert at June 18, 2009 4:34 PM
If a member commits blogicide and then comes back, does that mean he or she remembers?
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 4:31 PM
It means he or she is a PLUSA for life (with a capital PL according to randi)
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 18, 2009 4:36 PM
Expert, you've become very annoying so that means you are now a member. There's no form to fill out. it's similar to the Mickey Mouse Club.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNK5KzI48mM
You think "Bobby" looks kinda gay????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 18, 2009 4:37 PM
Expert, there is a committee that hands the cards. You have to buy all of them drinks at the next gathering to get one.
Committee members are Cobblehiller, DIBS, Biff, Rob, and like 20 others so be sure to call the credit card company and up your spending allowance for the next party.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 18, 2009 4:40 PM
"How do I become a card carrying member?"
Card? What card? We have cards? Why didn't anybody tell me!!!
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 4:41 PM
Thanks etson!
"There's no form to fill out."
DIBS, obviously you haven't been keeping up-to-date with our recent changes. We have raised our standards for assessing members. The requirements are much more stringent now. We have to assess each member's form to ensure it is adequate and complete. There is stiff competition amongst potential members and we don't want any jerk off the street coming into our gang.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 4:42 PM
Biff, did you tell them about the Pee test yet?
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 4:44 PM
> DIBS, obviously you haven't been keeping up-to-date with our recent changes. We have raised our standards for assessing members. The requirements are much more stringent now. We have to assess each member's form to ensure it is adequate and complete. There is stiff competition amongst potential members and we don't want any jerk off the street coming into our gang.
Biff Champion, I'm a long time lurker and that is....."One of your best ever, Biff."
The textpert in me likes it.
Posted by: Expert Textpert at June 18, 2009 4:45 PM
am i kicked out of the PLUSAs because i didn't wear a nametag last night?
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 18, 2009 4:45 PM
Thanks cobblehiller and kensingtonian...
Posted by: christopher at June 18, 2009 4:45 PM
DIBS, I introduced that term re 11217.
I'm hurt.
Posted by: dittoburg at June 18, 2009 4:45 PM
"Biff, did you tell them about the Pee test yet?"
WHAT?!?!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 18, 2009 4:46 PM
"a PLUSA for life"
For life at least - I think Google cache will preserve these threads long after we're all six feet under. Headlines will be made when future internet archaeologists unearth a treasure trove of information on the pleasures of Bangkok in the most unlikely of locations...
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at June 18, 2009 4:46 PM
We're a very buttoned-up organization here DH. Keep up! ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 4:49 PM
"am i kicked out of the PLUSAs because i didn't wear a nametag last night?"
Don't worry, nobody other than you in that group would be mistaken for a dirty hipster. I went for the hipster look, but unfortunately my jeans were not tight enough, my shoes were too new and clean, and I'm about 20 years too old (and I can't stand camping, especially in backyards).
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 4:50 PM
yeah biff - your shoes were WAY too clean. i had the urge to step on them all night.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 18, 2009 4:52 PM
Biff, are we allowed to exclude people that sleep in tents in backyards when they don't have to? Or is this type of discrimination against our bylines?
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 18, 2009 4:53 PM
Has anyone checked the sex offenders database???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 18, 2009 4:54 PM
"yeah biff - your shoes were WAY too clean. i had the urge to step on them all night."
- At least I would have had a nice selection of canes to borrow if you hurt my feet.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 4:55 PM
cobble....checkout the Forum thread...A BoCoCa Arts Festival. I know how much you love that acronym.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 18, 2009 4:55 PM
"Biff, are we allowed to exclude people that sleep in tents in backyards when they don't have to? "
Cobble, there is nothing in the policies and procedures that prohibits members from pitching tents.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 4:56 PM
> Expert, you've become very annoying so that means you are now a member.
I have been annoying 'In my Life'
Posted by: Expert Textpert at June 18, 2009 4:57 PM
What about people who execute flies? Or should we exclude people who protest people who execute flies and other insectoidia?
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 5:02 PM
Textpert rules - love the communication via classic rock lyrics.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 18, 2009 5:03 PM
How about we exclude those that make up words like "insectoidia" just to further their own misguided agendas????
To quote the dear departed benson: "One can often sense the intellectual bankruptcy of a movement by the shrillness of its rhetoric."
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 18, 2009 5:05 PM
"What about people who execute flies?"
Our members realize that flies are essential and should be handled appropriately.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 5:09 PM
dibs- I vote for that!!.......er....wait a minute. :-b
biff- I agree. flies, especially in clothing are essential. I'll let DIBS add to that one. I'm sure he can explain to us the ins and outs of flymanship.
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 5:21 PM
Would "flyfishing" then be similar to "muff diving?"
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 18, 2009 5:24 PM
No dave. Times have changed. Muffs are no longer de rigeur for the well dressed woman's winter wardrobe. One should never get a fishing hook caught in ones expensive clothing.
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 5:39 PM
I thought muffs refers to the mishandling of balls by pros.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 5:42 PM
think we need to have diff levels of membership (regular, VIP, gold, Platinum......)
some of the following are legit requirements for premium levels and some are purposely to EXCLUDE (& insult) people so we can make this a SNOB CLUB:
employed - doesn't matter; YES does yield bonus points
Age - doesn't matter; over 30 yields bonus points
Own property - doesn't matter; more ppties, more points
Rich - doesn't matter; more money, more points
Here comes the good stuff:
SINGLE - NO GO; if you cant hook up, you aint good enough to join
have CATS - NO GO; to accommodate our gay membership - no pussy cats
No Car - NO GO; if you rolling on bike, go play with the kiddies in the park
Live outside of NYC - STAY OUT; we don't want you
According to that, who's at platinum, gold, or EXCLUDE?
Posted by: more4less at June 18, 2009 5:43 PM
Uh oh, based on that criteria, I think the PLUSA President just got disqualified.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 18, 2009 5:46 PM
Biff, there's always the mail room posts you can take
Posted by: more4less at June 18, 2009 5:50 PM
wow- I see a conflict. I do own property - cats. So far that's about the only double requirement I qualify for :-(
Oh wait- live in Brooklyn. No car- but I take public transportation which should appeal to the self-righteous elitist ecology types among us who aren't opting for coHousing.
How about excluding those who WORK in Jersey? If you aren't contributing to the NYC tax database or work for someone who doesnt, NO GO!
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 5:52 PM
"So to join the PLUSA 'club' do we approach the president?"
president=me
i WAS there last night, lurking in the corner. did none of you PLUSAs notice?
Posted by: randolph at June 18, 2009 5:54 PM
jeez - based on that criteria i think i would qualify for a "tin" membership.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 18, 2009 5:57 PM
From what I know, you just DINGED almost EVERYONE, m4l.
Posted by: etson at June 18, 2009 5:57 PM
etson, that's the objective. in order to be a SNOB CLUB, tons of applicants need to be EXCLUDED or downgraded in membership level
Posted by: more4less at June 18, 2009 6:00 PM
outta here. stay out of the rain if you can - yeah right, NYC is now Seattle EAST
Posted by: more4less at June 18, 2009 6:07 PM
Alright, Randi. If that's true, what were some folks wearing?
Posted by: jessibaby at June 18, 2009 6:07 PM
You can't be a SNOB CLUB without members, however. At this point we're all downgrades.I can see the membership levels now:
Primordial Ooze (for the lowest of the low- hipsters perhaps?); rust; tin; fool's gold; less than 925 sterling; 10K gold and solid gold.
Posted by: bxgrl at June 18, 2009 6:10 PM
M4L: thanks for your kind words earlier in the day. That was sweet.
Posted by: jessibaby at June 18, 2009 6:12 PM
anyone else notice mr b is stepping it up with the PayPal ® ad on the site...brownstoner is all grows up
Posted by: randolph at June 18, 2009 6:26 PM
and papa johns!!! sell out!!!!
Posted by: randolph at June 18, 2009 6:27 PM
"We don't have time to adequately take apart Benson's tirade right now, but we find it funny that Benson and his new-found buddy, The What, can't seem to get their stories straight: Benson accuses us of being anti-development and The What accuses us of being a cheerleader for the development boom. Which is it? Sometimes the truth is a little more nuanced than that. And, for the record, we were born and raised in New York and, yes, even got mugged a couple of times in the 70s, so you two can stop pulling your city cred crap. It's getting very old. You don't have to have grown up in the Bed Stuy or the Red Hook Houses to be a New Yorker. Heck, you don't even have to have been born here. You are both blinded by your own burning self righteousness and, ironically given the humble origins you both love to brag about, sense of entitlement."
This like yelling after the bully leaves, ROTFLMMFAO!
You know something Jon? You just validated everything Benson and I said about you. Thanks Jon...
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 18, 2009 7:39 PM
Sorry to be posting soooo late. Had the best time ever, hope we get together again soon. The venue was very tranquil and we didn't have to shout. I owe Montrose a chat. Was Heather there? I would have liked to meet her.
The fellow sitting with Rob who just wandered in, the one you think might be the What, told me his name was Cory. He said he'd been "away" in Europe for a long time, had grown up in the neighborhood, and had only lived in it a few months (now).
Rob, you are delightful and we all love you, but it's painful to see someone drink so much (by the time we chatted, you could not finish a sentence).
Thank you, THL, for the Newburgh link, I will check it out.
Posted by: mopar at June 18, 2009 7:50 PM
THL, you coming to the next one? Living in New Jersey and having to commute 16 hours each way is only half a valid excuse.
Posted by: mopar at June 18, 2009 11:49 PM
Bully? More like cry baby...
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