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June 11, 2009
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Today's FGVOTD was mentioned the other day.
This is the inaugural song created for the Schoolhouse Rock! Series (there were 46 songs in total). It first aired in 1973.
In 1996, alternative group Blind Melon released a cover version of the song on the Schoolhouse Rock! Rocks album.
In addition (no pun intended) to be educational, it's also a beautiful song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11N-BD1aBo0
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 11, 2009 9:18 AM
I know i posted this yesterday but i can't help myself.
Jim cramer of CNBC the same guy who ran a Hedge fund and was smart enough to see the dotcom bubble coming, purchased a building in Brooklyn yesterday.
But what does he know ! I want advice from Missmuffett and BHO .
The Bottom is close.
Posted by: sebb at June 11, 2009 9:24 AM
got link of that purchase? Curious what & where he bought
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 9:27 AM
it's not even 930 and i turn my computer on ready to gripe about a ton of stuff. but i've decided there will be no crisis of the day from me today.
it occurred to me last night that all i do these days, everywhere, is blah blah blah blah crankiness non stop. that crap needs to be flushed down the toilet. fast!
no more negativity from mouth and fingers.
it's raining. it's good for the flowers. (flowers are nice).
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 11, 2009 9:27 AM
more4less: No link buddy . He was on Cnbc talking about it.
Posted by: sebb at June 11, 2009 9:30 AM
Rob, I just started the clock - to see how long calm happy Rob last till old Rob returns
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 9:31 AM
Cramer's girlfriend (of a few years now) lives in Brooklyn Heights, hence his current interest in the borough.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 11, 2009 9:34 AM
sebb, most of us made more $$$ trading AGAINST Cramer's advice than following them. his concepts are sound but his timing is the worst - ie tells you to sell at bottom or buy at top. if his stock timing carries into real estate, he buying far from bottom. late last yr or early this yr, he made repeated calls that June will be pivot point on NYC real estate - good thing is he appears to put $$$ where his mouth is and we'll see if he's regain his forecasting touch or not
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 9:36 AM
i just read the most barf-worthy article this morning in the wall street journal "Will Gen Y Sit Still for a New Chair?" and it talks about how young workers are demanding from their employers 1000 dollar chairs that will suit all of their many "needs". yeah, good luck with that! then they used the term i hate, which is my favorite way of sitting by the way. indian style. there is nothing wrong with the term indian style. now it's called "criss cross applesauce." lol that is the lamest term i have EVER heard. i refuse to say im sitting criss cross applesauce. im sitting indian! and i dont need a 2000 dollar chair to do it! yeah m4less, i guess it took about 10 minutes for old me to come back
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 11, 2009 9:39 AM
oh! last night i watch the creepiest documentary from 1975! it was a documentary about jackie o's cousin and her daughter who inhereted a house in the hamptons. they were CRAAAAAAAAZY.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 11, 2009 9:43 AM
O.K., Rob, now that you're back to normal, how about bitching about the rain? Flowers need sunshine too.
Posted by: Arkady at June 11, 2009 9:43 AM
Arkady, that's good one
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 9:45 AM
I ate at Saraghina last night and the pizza was incredible. Instead of having 2 pizzas we opted for just one followed by the cheese course which was $19 but could have fed four people!!!! I got there around 7:00, wasn't crowded but filled up by the time we left.
There were a number of people who came in to ask about takeout but he says the quality of the crust will deteriorate by the time you get it home and he doesn't want to do it.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 9:46 AM
M4L I am with you on that one. Jon Stewart was ripping on Cramer after the Bear collapse.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=220288&title=in-cramer-we-trust
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 11, 2009 9:47 AM
like the garbage song, im only happy when it rains. i do however wish it was nice during the week and rained on the weekends. i love rainey weekends. it's the perfect excuse not to HAVE to do anything. and i totally just embarrassed myself in the coney island thread :( i swear i got straight A's in math growing up!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 11, 2009 9:47 AM
"last night i watch the creepiest documentary from 1975"
Rob: Grey Gardens? A fascinating story—downward mobility and insanity at it's "finest". They didn't inherit the house. The house was built by Big Edie's husband, and she and her daughter stayed in it after their divorce. And, well, you saw what happened to them and the house.
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 11, 2009 9:48 AM
more4less: I agree his stock picking is not perfect,but he did get out of the market before the 99/2000 crash.
i think he is looking long term like most should .
Posted by: sebb at June 11, 2009 9:48 AM
quote:
There were a number of people who came in to ask about takeout but he says the quality of the crust will deteriorate by the time you get it home and he doesn't want to do it.
uh. what a freak. what is it any of his business? sounds like a pizza snob to me. first pizza snob ive ever heard of. now i wanna try a slice!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 11, 2009 9:50 AM
YES cobble!!! it was grey gardens!!! hahaha. craziness. ugh downward mobility and insanity is gonna be my OWN downfall!!! i can just picture myself now in 2 years living in a studio in flatbush gardens complex lip syncing miley cyrus songs in front of a big cracked mirror i found in the trash :-/
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 11, 2009 9:52 AM
"it occurred to me last night that all i do these days, everywhere, is blah blah blah blah crankiness non stop. that crap needs to be flushed down the toilet. fast!"
isn't this what i have been saying about you????? glad to see you finally listened.
anyway, did anyone watch top chef masters last night? what a fucking disaster. terrible. i was all excited for it and it really really sucked.
Posted by: randolph at June 11, 2009 9:52 AM
sebb, dont drink the long term koolaid blindly. wall st talking heads yapping about long term long term - meanwhile they're trading in their proprietary accounts to milk the long term sheeps they've added & kept in the herd
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 9:53 AM
He is a pizza snob. He takes pride in the quality of his product. Sam's apparently doesn't deliver either...neither does John's in Manhattan.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 9:53 AM
oh NO randolph! i wanted to watch the new top chef but forgot about it. is it the best of the best old cast members? im sure they will repeat it i guess.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 11, 2009 9:55 AM
and i just love how randi has morphed into an alpha plusa lol like literally overnight.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 11, 2009 9:56 AM
DIBS, how much does he charge for a whole pie? I'll order it then pretend to have emergency so have to take the pie to go
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 9:56 AM
randi, it was a disaster. I was all excited too! I expected better from those guys, especially the exec. chef of Aureole and Hubbert guy.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 11, 2009 9:56 AM
dont some places not deliver because of insurance and liability costs tho?
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 11, 2009 9:57 AM
Rob, it's not the old members. It's chefs who already made names for themselves in the culinary world competing for their favorite charities. I am disappointed. I expected more from them honestly.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 11, 2009 9:57 AM
Pies range from $12 to $15 I think it was. Don't count on him having a box for you to put it in.
Not everything is Chinese take-out you know.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 9:58 AM
it should have been past top chefs but instead it was a bunch of old dudes what are already established award winning chefs with their own restaurants. so there was no pressure on them and they treated it like a stupid game. and the lame ass judges were too nice. what a waste of time.
Posted by: randolph at June 11, 2009 9:59 AM
DIBS, dont U worry about the details - chinaman has it all figured out. if we can counterfeit anything in the world, we can certainly figure out how to take the pizza to go
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 10:02 AM
All those top chef shows are just that, randi, "a stupid game" and stupid shows too, I might add.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 10:03 AM
randi, I actually didn't watch the ending and switch off to UFC Championships between UK and USA. That was way more exciting. Gotta say Etson and Chicken, I thought your guys would take a beating but British did prove to have some pretty good fighters with a drive and stamina.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 11, 2009 10:05 AM
quote:
Rob, it's not the old members. It's chefs who already made names for themselves in the culinary world competing for their favorite charities. I am disappointed. I expected more from them honestly.
ah okay. snorseville than.
Hells Kitchen > Top Chef tho.
i know it's TERRIBLE, but everytime there is a reality show where celebs play for charity it's so ZZZZZZZZZZ
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 11, 2009 10:05 AM
agreed dibs, just one of those guilty pleasures...like trolling the OT.
Posted by: randolph at June 11, 2009 10:05 AM
Dave, M4L will bring his own pizza box :o).
"BE A MAN, DO THE RIGHT THING!"
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 11, 2009 10:06 AM
Celebrity Jeopardy is funny because they have to "dumb down" the answers.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 10:06 AM
"agreed dibs, just one of those guilty pleasures...like trolling the OT."
Randi, that's funny, but I'm afraid there are no happy endings here either!
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 11, 2009 10:06 AM
This was my fav video clip of past few days:
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/video/Diane-Abbott-MP-Slurps-In-House-Of-Commons/Video/200906215299761
From the UK Parliament. One member accusing another of sucking up to a newly promoted minister.
Posted by: etson at June 11, 2009 10:07 AM
"British did prove to have some pretty good fighters with a drive and stamina."
Usually make up in scrappiness what they lack in fitness.
Posted by: etson at June 11, 2009 10:10 AM
etson, that was pretty mild. I prefer the fistacuffs in the Jathat both males and females engage in Asian countries like Taiwan and Korea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht9WEpdi5JY
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 11, 2009 10:13 AM
I meant to say "I prefer the fistacuffs in that both males and females engage in Asian countries like Taiwan and Korea."
Those are some scrappy politicians!
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 11, 2009 10:14 AM
Biff, In taiwan, the "real" action is when the fight carries out from the parliament halls to the streets. some of those elected officials are current or retired big gangster heads. As the fights erupt, they call for reinforcement - ie "bring the boyz ASAP and meet me in the front of the bldg"
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 10:18 AM
Rob, Grey Gardens is a great movie, tough to get it on netlix, too many people want to watch it. It became a broadway musical and an HBO movie. Sally Quinn and Ben Bradlee (2 washington post bigwigs) brought the dump in 79 and re-made it. Little Edie had a cabaret show in NY before her death in FL a couple of years ago. Are you sure you're gay? They are icons for the tribe.
Posted by: DeLepp at June 11, 2009 10:26 AM
"Gotta say Etson and Chicken, I thought your guys would take a beating but British did prove to have some pretty good fighters with a drive and stamina.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 11, 2009 10:05 AM"
They must have only a passing connection to England then. This englishman was going to type a detailed response but I lost the willpower and went for a nap....
"BE A MAN, DO THE RIGHT THING!"
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 11, 2009 10:06 AM
That's going to be my new Bloomberg header now!
Posted by: the chicken at June 11, 2009 10:32 AM
Do DIBS just pinged me and and complained about my Bloomberg header so I've changed it again...
Posted by: the chicken at June 11, 2009 10:37 AM
delapp, we got it on netflix :)
and
"Are you sure you're gay? They are icons for the tribe."
lol yeah im sure. the only gay icon i like really is Cher.
im not a fan of broadway and musicals.. zzzzz, like bring a book!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 11, 2009 10:46 AM
rob, you're lucky I've had it on our list for months, BF has never seen it. Grey gardens and Cher are the only gay icons I can stand, god knows what that says about me.
Posted by: DeLepp at June 11, 2009 10:49 AM
"im not a fan of broadway and musicals.. zzzzz, like bring a book!"
Rob also dislikes museums. If it wasn't for his Miley Cyrus obsession at 30-something years old, we would never believe he is gay.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 11, 2009 10:52 AM
Speaking of gay obsessions, did anyone get a hold of BRG lately?
Does anyone have her email? is she alive and just busy?
I had so much re-write potential past couple of days, it's almost criminal not to take advantage of that.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 11, 2009 10:55 AM
I don't like musicals either. They're for women visiting from middle America. Husbands want to go to a titty bar and their wives drag them to these.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 10:55 AM
Biff - I'm betting he isn't. Needs OT help w/ wardrobe, doesn't have a bed & isn't interested in decorating.
Posted by: Arkady at June 11, 2009 10:57 AM
Cher.
When I was a little kid I thought she was the most glamorous woman ever created. Being that she was half Armenian on her father's side like I was entranced (not too many sexy looking Armenian icons). Those Bob Mackie costumes!!! I wasn't even 3 years old and I had the hair swish over the shoulder move she did down pat.
I love her to pieces.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at June 11, 2009 10:58 AM
Arkady, thank you! I was trying to come up with some other indicia of his non-gaiety and couldn't think of any, but knew they were out there.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 11, 2009 10:59 AM
Oh, Arkady, how about the fact every insult hurled his way just bounces off him and he never goes into a drama-filled hissy fit?
How non-gay is that?
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 11, 2009 11:00 AM
Swine Flu declared Pandemic by WHO.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 11:01 AM
Biff, don't 4get the dog. It's a pitbull vs. those itty bitty ones
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 11:01 AM
Shit, from what you guys are describing, I think I am more gay than Rob.
Rob, it's official, welcome to team Hetero.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 11, 2009 11:03 AM
40's too
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 11:03 AM
Yes, Biff, if anything he takes criticism to heart!
Good point, m4l.
Posted by: Arkady at June 11, 2009 11:03 AM
I conclude Rob is a frat brother hetero DUDE
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 11:03 AM
quote:
"rob, you're lucky I've had it on our list for months, BF has never seen it."
if my roommate didnt drop it in the mail already i can ask if i can borrow it to lend to a friend. as long as you drop it in the mail tho when youre done. do you live in the park slope area?
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 11, 2009 11:04 AM
And then there's the Hannah Montana hat.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 11:05 AM
"Swine Flu declared Pandemic by WHO.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 11:01 AM"
Hooray! The chickens are no longer the social pariahs they once were.
Posted by: the chicken at June 11, 2009 11:05 AM
He drinks 40oz. not cocktails.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at June 11, 2009 11:05 AM
quote:
Rob also dislikes museums. If it wasn't for his Miley Cyrus obsession at 30-something years old, we would never believe he is gay.
miley is NOT a gay icon. at least not yet anyway
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 11, 2009 11:06 AM
He eats a bowl of brownie mix or a block of cheese for dinner instead of waiting on line at La Di Da.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at June 11, 2009 11:06 AM
So what do you call some who's outed for not being gay?
Posted by: Arkady at June 11, 2009 11:07 AM
Hi guys what's going on? Anything to talk about and I don't watch RHONJ.
Oh BTW are there any Housing Bulls left??
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 11, 2009 11:10 AM
LOL!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at June 11, 2009 11:12 AM
Brooklyn brownstone prices will not fall 50-70% from peak comps.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 11:13 AM
Funny you should ask What, It's been determined that Rob isn't gay.
The evidence is pretty overwhelming.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at June 11, 2009 11:14 AM
WHAT got his prescription filled.
No "Hi retards" or "Hi Dumbasses"? Saying "hi guys"? WTF?
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 11, 2009 11:14 AM
"Oh BTW are there any Housing Bulls left??"
Jim Cramer apparently. Which would tend to support your case, What.
Posted by: etson at June 11, 2009 11:21 AM
okay seriously.. why does a gay person have to live up to gay stereotypes? yes i prefer 40's to mojitos, sleeping on a couch instead of a king sized mattress, rap to classical music, and i dress poorly and oftentimes i smell on the weekends. who cares!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 11, 2009 11:23 AM
"i prefer 40's to mojitos, sleeping on a couch instead of a king sized mattress, rap to classical music, and i dress poorly and oftentimes i smell on the weekends. who cares!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 11, 2009 11:23 AM"
I guess the person that spends Saturday night with you on the couch?
You're absolutely right - to be defined as "Rob" is far more important then being defined by your sexual preference.
Posted by: the chicken at June 11, 2009 11:26 AM
"miley is NOT a gay icon. at least not yet anyway"
So then what the heck does Rob have going for him at all to make him a member of Team Gay?
He is on team bi-curious at best.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 11, 2009 11:26 AM
I Am What I Am....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht9WEpdi5JY
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 11:27 AM
"So what do you call some who's outed for not being gay?"
Let's see. Gays come out of the closet. I guess we can say Rob came out of the tool shed? (re-write?)
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 11, 2009 11:28 AM
What the hell is this world coming to when we can't even stereotype gay people anymore??
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 11, 2009 11:29 AM
OMG...the most gorgeous, hot latino delivery boy from Mangia just walked into our offices. I'm definitely gay.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 11:31 AM
Hi everyone...I've been sneaking a peak at the convo today and you all are cracking me up! Trying to "in" Rob! LOL We homos are complex creatures...it's difficult to put us in any particular hole (re-writes anyone?) :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at June 11, 2009 11:34 AM
Anyone going to attempt to take the Quiz up in the Third & Bond thread???? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 11:36 AM
oh boy snappy!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 11, 2009 11:37 AM
My biopic is now appearing at the Brooklyn Heights Cinema if anyone is interested.
http://tinyurl.com/ltbztm
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 11, 2009 11:39 AM
LOL at coming out of the toolshed. i think that's more of a lezzy thing. snappy at what age did you come out of the toolshed!?
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 11, 2009 11:40 AM
Brooklyn brownstone prices will not fall 50-70% from peak comps.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 11:13 AM
Really Dave???? Ok!
"Funny you should ask What, It's been determined that Rob isn't gay."
Rob you got kicked out of the club?
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 11, 2009 11:40 AM
What the hell is 3rd and bond?
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 11, 2009 11:43 AM
Biff, didn't know you were son of Canadian Rambow. Is that a brother of American Rambo?
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 11, 2009 11:44 AM
"What the hell is 3rd and bond?"
Exactly. You just hit the nail on the head. It's the development project that has been featured each week here for 89 weeks. This week's post was just put up. It is meant to allow us to follow the development of a project from soup to nuts. Unfortunately, it still seems to be more soup at this point and the only thing that is nuts is the length of time the project is taking to complete.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 11, 2009 11:45 AM
Between my movie and Rob's sexuality, today's Open Thread should be subtitled "Rainbows and Rambows".
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 11, 2009 11:47 AM
Ok, so far today, we have confirmed:
Rob: Gay
DIBS: Yes totally gay
kens: Not gay
Snappy: Still gay
What: NOT gay
Cramer: Not gay
cobblehiller: not that anyone wondered, not gay.
randi: unclear
Did I miss anyone? Anyone else care to be included in our unofficial official poll?
p.s. will email BRG to see if she is still among the living...
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 11, 2009 11:47 AM
The What just provided his responses to the Inside Third & Bond quiz. Funny stuff. I don't think he'll be getting a tour of the site anytime soon, however.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 11, 2009 11:51 AM
Rob, I always knew I was a "Toolshed Tina" but didn't admit it to the kin folk until I was about 24. That made for one hell of a Thanksgiving! (why do us homos always insist on coming out and ruining a holiday dinner??)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at June 11, 2009 11:54 AM
Well I like women so I think I'm a lesbian...
Posted by: the chicken at June 11, 2009 11:55 AM
"The What just provided his responses to the Inside Third & Bond quiz. Funny stuff. I don't think he'll be getting a tour of the site anytime soon, however."
Who want a tour??!! That thing might collaspe on ya!
Biff this period of time is just insane! What the fuck are people thinking????? 18 months to build a Condo??? Hell the Empire State Building was built in the same amount of time!
The What (Shit!)
Someday this insanity is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 11, 2009 11:59 AM
snappy, i came out and wound up in the hospital lol. (long story) will tell it another time.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at June 11, 2009 11:59 AM
I'm a total lesbian.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 11, 2009 12:00 PM
Dang, Rob! WTF? We need to have our steak dinner and 40 night soon so I can hear that story!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at June 11, 2009 12:04 PM
So someone is building a residential building on 3rd st and bond st? according to google maps that location is flanked by the gowanus canal on 2 sides. that doesn't seem like a very good idea.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 11, 2009 12:04 PM
Ok, I just sent an email to BRG and it bounced back. Does anyone else want to try reaching BRG?
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 11, 2009 12:07 PM
Whoa- really, cobble? I'll try also. Did the bounce message say her mailbox was full? (I know she would just take and run with that sentence :-) !!
Posted by: bxgrl at June 11, 2009 12:17 PM
DH, mktg spin would say "water views from 2 directions"
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 12:18 PM
"DH, mktg spin would say "water views from 2 directions""
haha or "ideal location for condom fishermen"
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 11, 2009 12:21 PM
"So someone is building a residential building on 3rd st and bond st...that doesn't seem like a very good idea."
NOW you tell them.
"Hell the Empire State Building was built in the same amount of time!"
What, if you and DIBS are the only two respondants, you might end up on a tour with him. I would pay to see that!
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 11, 2009 12:23 PM
DH, "condom" means there's other interesting views to see if timing is correct
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 12:24 PM
bxgrl, no it said:
This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification
Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
[BRG's email address]
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 11, 2009 12:26 PM
haha m4l - to some that would be considered an amenity!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 11, 2009 12:27 PM
"What, if you and DIBS are the only two respondants, you might end up on a tour with him. I would pay to see that!"
Biff I can't have any "witnesses". But I will take you to lunch after ; ^ }.
The What (What Happen to Dave What???!!!)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 11, 2009 12:32 PM
I wonder which one of us will be doing the "Pile driving?"
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 12:35 PM
""condom" means there's other interesting views to see if timing is correct"
m4l - sure, if you like to watch toilets flush...
Posted by: Arkady at June 11, 2009 12:40 PM
I gotta stop flushing those things down the toilet.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 12:44 PM
Got the same message too cobble- some people temporarily disable their email address if they are away fo several weeks. lets hope this is temporary.
Posted by: bxgrl at June 11, 2009 12:44 PM
Oh dear, ok, yes, let's hope. Thanks bxgrl.
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 11, 2009 12:49 PM
But bxgrl, maybe we should take this off line, but don't you think that she would just put an out-of-office message on, rather than dis-able it?
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 11, 2009 12:50 PM
"Who want a tour??!! That thing might collaspe on ya!"
That's what I thought. Who "wins" a tour of a construction site?
Posted by: East New York at June 11, 2009 12:56 PM
ENY, good point/reminder. I now need $100 to tour the site
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 12:58 PM
When's the brokers' open house???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 12:59 PM
"i prefer 40's to mojitos, sleeping on a couch instead of a king sized mattress, rap to classical music, and i dress poorly and oftentimes i smell on the weekends."
He may or may not be gay, but he's definitely a hipster.
Posted by: East New York at June 11, 2009 1:00 PM
I thought hipsters kicked out Rob from that tribe?
Rob should create his own category.....anyone has any creative names?
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 11, 2009 1:01 PM
What, if you and DIBS are the only two respondants, you might end up on a tour with him. I would pay to see that!
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 11, 2009 12:23 PM
I would pay $20 bucks to see that as well. We can create a new brownstoner show and charge admission.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 11, 2009 1:03 PM
Why so late with COTD & HOTD. Has the market toatlly dried up???
This is the conundrum that BHO and MM face. There is less and less supply and they may not find something to their liking. Only once the market has bottomed and started to move up will more supply come out. Additionally, rates will be higher. Oh dear, what to do????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 1:16 PM
I saw this one today. Bedrooms aren't huge but it looks very nice. Is on a coveted lane in Brooklyn Heights and was on the BH House Tour last year.
http://www.brownharrisstevens.com/detail.aspx?id=1022047
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 11, 2009 1:20 PM
biff, who among the PLUSA's can afford that price tag? got me excited thinking you found a juicy listing
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 1:22 PM
Lack of new supply now is probably just seasonality (at least according to a broker whom I trust and with whom I discussed this very issue a couple of weeks ago).
She said new supply always dries up after Memorial Day & then increases again in September.
Posted by: etson at June 11, 2009 1:22 PM
"biff, who among the PLUSA's can afford that price tag?"
M4L, you might be surprised. Plus, perhaps you can snag this for $500K, as HOBOKENROCKS hopes to do one day.
etson is right that traditionally things slow down dramatically after Memorial Day until the fall. But there still seems to have been very few new listings this entire year, at least in Brooklyn Heights, which is the neighbourhood I follow most closely.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 11, 2009 1:26 PM
"This is the conundrum that BHO and MM face. There is less and less supply and they may not find something to their liking. Only once the market has bottomed and started to move up will more supply come out. Additionally, rates will be higher. Oh dear, what to do????"
You make a great point Dave.
Might I also add, while no one has the perfect answer of when the bottom is and when you should buy I'd like to think that your house is something meant to live in and enjoy. Not just a chit that you cash in for the highest profit imaginable.
I say buy what you can easily afford when you find what you like. Stop killing yourself trying to time this to the millisecond. You could end missing out on your dream home and winding up with a higher interest rate to boot.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at June 11, 2009 1:26 PM
DIBS visits the construction site:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CllIv0DmEVc
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 1:28 PM
"What, if you and DIBS are the only two respondants, you might end up on a tour with him. I would pay to see that!"
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 11, 2009 12:23 PM
"Great I can make Dave part of the foundation...
The What (Just joking, NOT!)"
Posted by: Return of the What at June 11, 2009 12:02 PM
Better think again on that tour....
Posted by: East New York at June 11, 2009 1:29 PM
Yes, agree totally with what you added, THL.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 1:29 PM
THL, very easy to tell when is the bottom. when you see prices go up, the bottom is right behind you.
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 1:38 PM
"I gotta stop flushing those things down the toilet.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 12:44 PM"
Recycle and go green...
Posted by: the chicken at June 11, 2009 1:42 PM
"OMG...the most gorgeous, hot latino delivery boy from Mangia just walked into our offices. I'm definitely gay."
Lots of leftover Mangia sandwiches in the kitchen, DIBS. Did you get something else to eat?
Posted by: etson at June 11, 2009 1:43 PM
Not to be a downer, but talk about life being so unfair. The white supremacist who killed that poor security guard at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum made it to 88 years of age while Anne Frank, Charlie Parker, Mozart, Lou Gehrig, Martin Luther King, John Lennon, etc. etc. etc. all died so young.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 11, 2009 1:45 PM
etson, DIBS having desert right now (2nd serving too)
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 1:45 PM
Yes, those are from our meeting, etson. Notice that the dessert offerings are lacking. :(
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 1:46 PM
"This is the conundrum that BHO and MM face. There is less and less supply and they may not find something to their liking. Only once the market has bottomed and started to move up will more supply come out. Additionally, rates will be higher. Oh dear, what to do????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 1:16 PM"
Not really a conundrum. More supply will come to the market - as resets hit, people burn through redundancy money, etc.
I, for one, am welcoming higher rates (both for my savings and as a prospective buyer) because that is going to be the straw that breaks the camel's back and pushes prices back to rationality.
Posted by: the chicken at June 11, 2009 1:47 PM
chicken, thought your already own a house in BK
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 1:51 PM
I wonder if Dov Hikind will care to say something about whether or not it was ok to close the Museum today to honor the Black security guard who died? After all, the man was not Jewish. (I can't stand Hikind, as if no one noticed.)
I tried to put a positive spin on it, biff- 88 years of pure misery for him. Not a moment's happiness- that has to be worth something.
Posted by: bxgrl at June 11, 2009 1:52 PM
"Great I can make Dave part of the foundation...
The What (Just joking, NOT!)"
Posted by: Return of the What at June 11, 2009 12:02 PM
Reminds me of a line from SNL Weekend Update back in the Chevy Chase days--
Our top story tonight: dedication ceremonies for the new Teamsters Union Headquarters building took place today in Detroit, where Union President Fitzsimmons was reported to have said that former President Jimmy Hoffa will always be a cornerstone in the organization.
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/75/75aupdate.phtml
Posted by: slopefarm at June 11, 2009 1:52 PM
chicken...how do you think the markets will respond if Ahmedinejhad doesn't get the 50% and there's a runoff???
And then if he loses????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 1:54 PM
"88 years of pure misery for him."
I sure hope you're right, bxgrl. That guard was a hero. I thought it was appropriate to shut down the Museum in the wake of his death in order to honour him.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 11, 2009 1:56 PM
Oh bxgrl, there is no positive spin on it. Sucker lived long enough. Thank god he didn't manage to actually get through the rest of the guard and just start shooting people.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 11, 2009 1:59 PM
The guard that shot the moron is a hero. unfortunately the security guy that got shot and died didn't even see it coming. I think some witnesses say he got shot in the back.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 11, 2009 2:01 PM
Kens- I know. It was just sarcasm in response to biff's comment about the unfairness of life. I understand the guy is in the hospital in critical condition. I hope they "forget" to give him pain meds. I had a few other thoughts on what I think should happpen to him but they would get me a time out on brownstoner if I posted them.
Posted by: bxgrl at June 11, 2009 2:03 PM
is canada and the the scandinavian countries the only peaceful places on the globe?
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 2:05 PM
Oh I thought he already kicked the bucket. I am sure he will. Don't think he'll live to survive a gun shot(s) wound at 88 but who knows. He'll either die or rot in jail. Either case, it sucks that an innocent life was lost.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 11, 2009 2:06 PM
Kens, good point. The security guard who shot the killer certainly prevented what could have been a tragic massacre. There is no doubt he saved many lives.
Posted by: Biff Champion at June 11, 2009 2:07 PM
In my book he's a hero - security guards in high risk jobs know they may have to put themselves on the line- and he certainly was. We take them for granted- and that's a shame. These were highly trained armed guards- the Mall is iconic, like the Trade Center was- I guess it was only a matter of time. He was there on the front line and he died for it - he died a hero.
Posted by: bxgrl at June 11, 2009 2:08 PM
"chicken, thought your already own a house in BK
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 1:51 PM"
Nope - still have a house in London but liquidated the rest of the portfolio two years ago.
"chicken...how do you think the markets will respond if Ahmedinejhad doesn't get the 50% and there's a runoff???
And then if he loses????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 1:54 PM"
better the devil you know than the devil you don't (plus it's not like he really runs the show anyway)
Posted by: the chicken at June 11, 2009 2:09 PM
Just to clarify- the security guard was shot first- precisely because he was a security guard.And I think it takes a special kind of person to place themselves in harm's way to protect others. Just mho
Posted by: bxgrl at June 11, 2009 2:12 PM
better the devil you know than the devil you don't (plus it's not like he really runs the show anyway)
Posted by: the chicken at June 11, 2009 2:09 PM
I thought he was actually running the show. What am I missing?
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 11, 2009 2:14 PM
I believe that he does run the show. Yes, the Ayatollah's have certain power over him but it's not dissimilar to the situation in Thailand where the King has the ultimate say when things get out of hand but the politicians get a free hand to continuously muck things up.
Besides, the guy most likely to win is very moderate and has held the Prime Minister's post before. he's not unknown.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 2:19 PM
The 'supreme leader' is more powerful than the president in Iran, and is unelected. Can't remember what the current guy is called, but he is a religious leader (think he has to be for this role).
Previous president (Khatami) was a reformer but was prevented from going very far.
Posted by: etson at June 11, 2009 2:21 PM
The S&P is at a seven month high. Need I remind you all that it is the best of the leading indicators.
I'm not sure if you'll be able to open this but its a great discussion about how the larger the sample, the better the predictive power, which is somewhat obvious but this is a great article....
http://tinyurl.com/l3fk7x
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 2:27 PM
We are also approachin a floor for the dollar. If the dollar starts to strengthen again then oil prices will drop and so will Treasury rates.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 2:35 PM
DIBS is right re the oil / dollar inverse correlation. In recent weeks, and in general over the past 18 months, it has been very tight.
Rising $, falling commodities and rising treasuries sounds bearish for equities though, DIBS. Reversal of the inflation / recovery trade that has driven the equity market up.
Posted by: etson at June 11, 2009 2:43 PM
who is buying all of the 30 yr T-bills today? the pension fds?
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 2:50 PM
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/06/mortgage-market-remains-solidly-frozen.html
Mortgage Market Remains Solidly Frozen
One problem is lenders are requiring applicants to put up $500 for appraisals and if the amounts do not come in, even if they miss by a tiny bit, the deal is denied and the applicant is out $500. Jeff had a $1.2 million sale stall because an appraisal was $20K short.
A couple years back lenders were letting anything slide, now they appear to be looking for excuses to kill any deal, especially with the recent spike in rates. If the appraisal and paperwork is not perfect, goodbye loan and goodbye $500 appraisal fee. Customers are not too happy to say the least.
Yields on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac mortgage securities rose, setting a new high since the Federal Reserve announced plans to buy the bonds to drive down interest rates on new home loans and further thwarting the effort.
U.S. mortgage applications fell last week to the lowest level since February as a jump in borrowing costs discouraged refinancing and signaled that Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke’s bid to cap rates is stalling, according to Mortgage Bankers Association data released today.
The Fed initially said on Nov. 25 that it would buy as much as $500 billion of mortgage securities, before announcing in March that it would expand the program to as much as $1.25 trillion, as well as buy $300 billion of Treasuries.
Tick Motherfucking Tock Retards......
The What
Someday this war is gonna end....
Posted by: Return of The What at June 11, 2009 3:05 PM
Borrowers need to understand their alternatives for when the appraisal comes in low. If they are scraping by to come up with the down payment and the closing costs then they ought to walk away because its likely that they'll need to cough up more money for when the low appraisal comes in...or renegotiate the price. Sellers need to be realistic about this too.
This is why you need a lawyer to write you an air tight contract.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 3:11 PM
here's your who's who in Iran.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/199145
Posted by: the chicken at June 11, 2009 3:15 PM
Biff...check out sixyears' comment in the Third & Bond thread.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 3:23 PM
"http://tinyurl.com/l3fk7x
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 2:27 PM"
Interesting read DIBS but can ultimately be parried by the "madness of crowds" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowd_psychology) - not that I'm taking any side. You cannot say that the crowd always knows best in one breath, while trying to beat the market in the next.
Btw, Francis Galton (mentioned in the paper) is the father of modern statistics and eugenics. Fascinating man.
Posted by: the chicken at June 11, 2009 3:25 PM
" Sellers need to be realistic about this too."
So when housing prices are down 50% sellers need to be "realistic" then????????
Out from Dave's Ass to your ears...
The What (I can't wait for this Fall)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 11, 2009 3:26 PM
Brownstone Brooklyn prices are not down 50%, What. Talk about pulling shit from your ass.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 3:31 PM
"You cannot say that the crowd always knows best in one breath, while trying to beat the market in the next."
Momentum + beta!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 3:35 PM
Brownstone Brooklyn prices are not down 50%, What. Talk about pulling shit from your ass.
Rewrite!!!
Brownstone Brooklyn prices are not down 50% yet, Dave fucks stay cats!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at June 11, 2009 3:38 PM
It loses a little with the misspelling.
But if that's what you call yours then bring it on over!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 3:42 PM
what's a tie / push? down 35%?
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 3:52 PM
what do you mean? I've always said that prices will decline about 20%+/-...more for condos & coops. New developments are toast.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 3:56 PM
there's a big unspoken for range btwn your 20% and that 50%+. so my question is if it lands in that unspoken for range, what is the % for a tie / push on the debate? I threw out 35% since it's the midpt.
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 4:01 PM
Ahhh, I see. Then the What and I shake hands and have nothing else to battle about. That would be sad.
What will become of this site when BHO and Miss Muffett actually wind up going to contract on places???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 4:05 PM
M4L is looking for technicality of bragging rights on the calling bottom point.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 11, 2009 4:07 PM
At least BHO and Miss Muffett are coherent and can communicate. They will buy a place and move to a forum to seek advice on renovations and such. Maybe they'll even add themselves to the Renovations blogs.
Can't say the same for What.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at June 11, 2009 4:09 PM
"Momentum + beta!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 3:35 PM"
Please tell me that isn't your marketing pitch to potential investors! ;)
Posted by: the chicken at June 11, 2009 4:11 PM
I was wondering when you'd see that comment, chicken. LOL
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 4:12 PM
DIBS, there would be a tie if it landed exactly at 35.00%. anything else, someone will be deemed winner and the other will have to challenge the info source, calc method,...is not correct or relevant.
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 4:12 PM
chicken, sshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
don't repeat it too often. Wall St pro's dont want the buy & hold sheeps to realize that's what the pro's base their decisions on and is really the secret formula for profits
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 4:14 PM
I know you're joking DIBS. My PM also likes his charts - my job is to put a plausible fundamental overlay to those decisions ;)
Posted by: the chicken at June 11, 2009 4:22 PM
Every investment decision should be based on some concocted fundamental decision after the trigger is pulled.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 4:24 PM
Koenigsegg to buy Saab??!?!?!
They've made maybe 200 cars in the last 15 years!
Posted by: the chicken at June 11, 2009 4:24 PM
chicken, they cant have both swedish brands (volvo & saab) fall into Chinese hands.
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 4:26 PM
The Chinese gov't. might block the Hummer acquisition because it doesn't fit the environmental policy and it is losing money!!!
I think we should give Hummer to the Chinese. I've certainly given enough of them one.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 4:31 PM
OK...this is about as ridiculous a thing I've heard in a long time: The City of NY just announced that they are going to contract with the USDA to remove geese from parks surrounding the airport. That's nice but what about the geese in the air coming from elsewhere?
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 4:37 PM
DIBS, it'll be a long term contract - ie real motive was to increase # of jobs
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 4:41 PM
It's like the acid rain debate. Maybe we can start taxing geese who use ny airspace.
Posted by: DeLepp at June 11, 2009 4:42 PM
Wel, the thing that makes this even more ridiculous is that the geese got there by a program many years ago to repopulate the geese in the area! They brought these larger geese in and clipped there wings, so that that generation would 'imprint' to the area. And later generations as well. And it worked! And now they want them to go away.
Perfect.
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 11, 2009 4:42 PM
Why don't "you people" eat them???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 4:43 PM
OY, my apologies for the typos...you get what I mean!
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 11, 2009 4:44 PM
Duck tongue is good. Goose tongue has got to be just as good.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 4:44 PM
DIBS, what's the wholesale rate on that inventory?
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 4:46 PM
Check out the QOTD Thread. Benson's blathering again about Fedder's buildings.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at June 11, 2009 4:47 PM
anyone have any home remedies for feeling like poop?
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 11, 2009 4:48 PM
be back. think I need to handle my business on the 3rd & Bond thread. No way, kettle gets to lecture the pot and gets away with it
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 4:48 PM
$34.00. Don't ask for fity cent off...you go someplace else and they charge you maybe foty dolla. Then you come back and I say thity eight dolla.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 4:48 PM
Wow - looks like wine lover is off their meds in the QOTD thread.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 11, 2009 4:51 PM
am back. re-write the post and it looks like kettle was chewing out the other pot's post more than mine so I'll let it go.
DIBS, that's HK accent. You in NYC now. get your accept correct please. take it or leave it "som sup"
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 4:53 PM
wow, the QOTD thread is good reading
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 5:04 PM
***grabs some popcorn, turns up the biggie***
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 11, 2009 5:06 PM
"the QOTD thread is good reading"
YAWN. It was just ok.
DH, I'm slipping into a rainy day coma myself, I have no good answer for you.
Posted by: cobblehiller at June 11, 2009 5:07 PM
Saw that THL- I loved the links you posted too. I couldn't find pricing on the Liberty one- any idea of what those go for?
Posted by: bxgrl at June 11, 2009 5:16 PM
:( CHiller
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 11, 2009 5:29 PM
Is it just me, or has everything/everyone on here been really negative and tempermental this week? Must be the weather.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 11, 2009 5:37 PM
I like the weather - for the weekdays. so odds of sunny weekends are improved.
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 5:41 PM
DH, ICE CREAM (+ pie if you have some) works wonders for the ladies. How about a big BEER float?
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 5:44 PM
"Is it just me, or has everything/everyone on here been really negative and tempermental this week?"
wtf are you talking about?
(j/k)
Posted by: etson at June 11, 2009 5:48 PM
MMMM beer float - never tried that before. did you just make that up or have you really tried it?
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 11, 2009 5:48 PM
haha etson!
I was half expecting someone to be like "STFU DH - you suck, and smell funny!!"
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 11, 2009 5:49 PM
DH, was suggesting ICE Cream then realizing you like beer so bam BEER float.
never tried it before but root beer vs real beer - can't ruin the taste right?
Posted by: more4less at June 11, 2009 5:52 PM
"Why don't "you people" eat them???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 4:43 PM"
Who says "we" don't?!
Posted by: the chicken at June 11, 2009 5:56 PM
haha thanks m4l - i'll give it a try an report back later - I'm thinking it will work best with a nice imperial stout
Posted by: dirty_hipster at June 11, 2009 6:06 PM
I have big news! (if there's anyone still hanging here)
Posted by: the chicken at June 11, 2009 6:10 PM
nobody? I guess I will have to tell you tomorrow then...
Posted by: the chicken at June 11, 2009 6:16 PM
I am here for another 10 mins chicken.
You moving back over here??
Another Egg on the way??
Trying to think what else it may be.
Posted by: etson at June 11, 2009 6:17 PM
Really big news??
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 6:29 PM
"Another Egg on the way??
Posted by: etson at June 11, 2009 6:17 PM"
That wouldn't be big news - that would be HUUUUGE news!
If that were true, I would have to get another basket. Everyone knows that you shouldn't keep all your eggs in basket... (feel free to groan)
"Really big news??
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2009 6:29 PM"
Fairly big for me. For you, not so much!
Posted by: the chicken at June 12, 2009 1:40 AM
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