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June 10, 2009

More Renderings of New Arena Design

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In the wake of Nicolai Ouroussoff's hammering review of the new design for the Atlantic Yards arena, the Times' City Room blog dug up some additional renderings from the architecture firm Ellerbe Becket.
Atlantic Yards Development: Two Designs, Many Opinions [NY Times]
Battle Between Budget and Beauty, Which Budget Won [NY Times]
Ouroussoff, Tell Us How You Really Feel [Brownstoner]
The View of the Arena from Flatbush [AY Report]
Hello, Cleveland! [I Cover the Automat]




Posted by Brownstoner at 11:00 AM | Comments (22)
Categories: Architecture, Atlantic Yards

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Ellerbe Becket
Renderings don't represent
Our diversity

Posted by: BrooklynGreene at June 10, 2009 11:09 AM

It won't bring non stadium goers to Brooklyn to see it, but it will suffice as a home to entertainment. Besides, supposedly Gehry is still attached to the housing, so there is still a slight glimmer of hope for high end architecture.

Posted by: ReMiXxd at June 10, 2009 11:14 AM

Please explain what would represent your diversity?
It's a glorified basketball court with lots of seats. Granola, Beef Patty, Organic Falafel, along with beer, Hot dog, and burger concessions are not relevant to the building. "Represent your Diversity"? How exactly does a brick and mortar (or in this case steel and glass) shell of a building do that?

Posted by: ou812 at June 10, 2009 11:31 AM

I think the point is that Brooklyn has over well 2 million people as a Borough (larger than most cities) and not only deserves but can support a venue llike this on it's own. It doesn't need outside people to come to see it.

Posted by: ou812 at June 10, 2009 11:34 AM

I thought that was supposed to be a haiku, although I question the 1-syllable pronunciation of "our" -- some dictionaries list it as a variant, although Merriam Webster actually lists it first.

Posted by: babs at June 10, 2009 11:43 AM

Gehry's totally gone from this project:

(Found here: http://www.wnyc.org/news/articles/133901)

Frank Gehry Out of Rest of Yards Too
by Matthew Schuerman

NEW YORK, NY June 09, 2009 —Days after marquee architect Frank Gehry was dropped as the architect of a new Brooklyn Nets Basketball arena, WNYC has learned the architect won't be involved in other parts of the complex either. WNYC's Matthew Schuerman reports.

REPORTER: Just two years ago, developer Forest City Ratner was insisting Gehry would design each and every one of the 16 towers that surrounded the arena. Gehry had dubbed one of them Miss Brooklyn. But two sources close to the project say now the developer is not planning to use Gehry any more, citing costs, the architect's lack of interest and the complications of meshing different architectural styles in a small space. A spokesman for Forest City Ratner said Gehry is still "involved" in the project but did not answer specific questions. The developer says it plans to break ground on the arena this fall, and the first residential building six months later. For WNYC, I'm Matthew Schuerman.

Posted by: SteveFtGreene at June 10, 2009 11:52 AM

Oh well, I guess a stadium is all we will get. At least the 20,000 people attending events will spark a flood of bars and Easy on the wallet eats.

Posted by: ReMiXxd at June 10, 2009 12:03 PM

underwhelming.

cutting edge circa 1959.

Posted by: sam at June 10, 2009 12:05 PM

I appreciate the depiction of traffic and pedestrians. A slighlty more accurate version would show every inch of the roadway blocked by traffic with pedestrians running for their lives as cars use the parking lane as an Indy 500 expressway. That is until you get about 50 feet from the Arena which would be outside the zone the developer and the City consider to be impacted by the arena.

Posted by: Boerum Hill at June 10, 2009 12:07 PM

Out-of-Towner men
No knowledge of our streetscape
All peds are not white

["Our" equals one here
Sorry for the odd cadence
You can handle it]

Posted by: BrooklynGreene at June 10, 2009 12:13 PM

I joined yesterday's thread too late but I am shocked and outraged by this bait and switch. What a travesty. Which public officials can we contact to complain? I hope this is a hot button issue in the election - Bloomberg should not allow this betrayal of public trust!

Posted by: Miss Muffett at June 10, 2009 12:34 PM

please stop - I can't take anymore of these renderings.
I feel like I need to blame someone for this:
Develop Don't Destroy? for continuous stalling
Ratner? for being a cheap ass with no taste ie. Atlantic Terminal

Posted by: oldrte10 at June 10, 2009 12:35 PM

Who cares!

Everyone hated Gehry's design when it was first made public and now people are pining for his "high end" touch. Please. Put up a basketball arena where there is currently rubble and weeds, it's going to have a big ad for a bank on the side of it no matter who made the blueprint.

Posted by: Lothar of the Clinton Hill People at June 10, 2009 1:55 PM

A slight glimmer of hope for high end architecture?

Gehry is not a "high end architect" but a self-indulgent, no talent hack who's famous for being famous-- nothing more, nothing less. Thank God he's been excised from this project; we'll be spared the embarrassment of an EMP or some other building that leaks, has engineering problems, and looks like trash from every angle.

Posted by: wwworldclique at June 10, 2009 2:10 PM

This will be a Titanic black hole that will leave the remaining survivors in the surrounding neighbourhoods clinging to their life boats.
This is the end of Brooklyn. I see two choices ; become a scalper or sell T-shirts out side the stadium or just get the hell out of Dodge.

Posted by: oldtimer at June 10, 2009 2:18 PM

ROFL. People complained about the original project. Now you end up with a more craptastic project. Yeah - all that lawsuits and protests have made the project even better looking. Yay!

Posted by: crimsonson at June 10, 2009 2:51 PM

crimsonson
The bulldozers are scheduled to roll thru Brooklyn and there ain't nutthin we can do. So let's load up our wagons and head to California I hear that there are jobs and land galore.

We are now twenty fist century shizoid men and should know that to protest will just make it worse for everyone. So be quiet and maybe the big Ratner will go away.

Posted by: oldtimer at June 10, 2009 3:38 PM

Dip into the fund
Public dough can make you rich!
Packaging is key

Posted by: BrooklynGreene at June 10, 2009 5:17 PM

I totally agree with those posters noting that people against AY complained endlessly about Gehry's design, only to embrace it once it ceases to be an option. You guys hate everything!

Posted by: Big Jugs at June 10, 2009 6:45 PM

I am completely confused by these renderings: the technique is so different from what I normally see I focus on the style of the rendering vs what they are showing....

Hard to say what I think about the design: There isn't enough visual information.

With all of that said: does this remind anyone else of Bauhaus style drawings?

Posted by: young archi at June 10, 2009 11:42 PM

Oldtimer - protest is fine at all but if you don't offer a reality based alternative you get the shitty one - as in this case. Protestors rubberstamped bunch a 'No's and some self serving local politicians and individuals took advantage of them. Now you get - good ol Midwestern sports complex.

Now it will definitely not go away.

Posted by: crimsonson at June 11, 2009 9:42 AM

No arena please
This is not Weimar Bauhaus
Please return to school

Posted by: BrooklynGreene at June 11, 2009 10:44 AM

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