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June 16, 2009

House of the Day: 244 Hall Street

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After unsuccessfully trying to sell these two carriage houses on Hall Street at the rear of the mansion at 275 Washington Street back in 2007 for a combined $2,600,000, the developer went back and renovated each of them and recently put them back on the market separately for $810,000 (#246) and $1,150,000 (#244). From what we hear, they've already attracted some offers. What do you think the more expensive one is worth?
244 Hall Street [Brooklyn Bridge Realty] GMAP P*Shark
House of the Day: 244 Hall Street [Brownstoner]





Posted by Brownstoner at 1:17 PM | Comments (23)
Categories: Clinton Hill, HOTD

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wow, what a nice job they did.

Posted by: gkw at June 16, 2009 1:25 PM

That's a nice 3 bedroom pad. Great area too.

Posted by: Lothar of the Clinton Hill People at June 16, 2009 1:31 PM

i have heard that the catch here is the air rights were sold to a developer that is putting a condo in the vacant lot next door. whoever buys this place could have an upstairs neighbor...

Posted by: twc at June 16, 2009 1:43 PM

these are gorgeous. Why dont we see developers doing stuff like this regularly? Instead it's white laminate cabinets and concrete countertops in mirrored glass high rises that languish on the market!? this is stylish, bright, charming and I'd be surprised if they didnt sell quickly even in this market.
although i think the distance to the major subway lines would have been a deal breaker for me, and is the only major drawback that i can see, I can't say I'm not envious of this.

Posted by: dokas at June 16, 2009 1:48 PM

not to sound like an idiot, but are these photos or are they the architect's renderings?

Posted by: Ringo at June 16, 2009 1:53 PM

They are renderings.

Posted by: 11217 at June 16, 2009 1:56 PM

Yeah, I thought. Are these things done? I'm always a little curious about developers who continue to use renderings after the place is completed.

Posted by: Ringo at June 16, 2009 2:02 PM

nice pad. love the garage. hate the price. It compares very favorably vs. the coops and condos in the hood. But other than the garage, it doesnt compare that well vs. bigger houses in the hood. if this was priced close to 900k then yeah, it would compare well vs. a bigger 2 family house (ie similar cashflow and no tenants to deal with).

Posted by: more4less at June 16, 2009 2:02 PM

Cute, if it looks like the renderings in the end. But the public space seems very small. Can't beat the garage tho.

Posted by: geekspice at June 16, 2009 2:24 PM

Lovely renderings, laughable prices.

Posted by: SnarkSlope at June 16, 2009 2:26 PM

Is it a weird angle or does the garage seem really narrow? Both units have a garage? I can't tell. My eyes are getting old.

Posted by: CG_ups at June 16, 2009 2:27 PM

I've used the line about renderings to lure people in too.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 16, 2009 2:27 PM

The wider carriage house is very, very nice. I like carriage houses and I espeically like it when they still function as both garage and house. The floorplan is tops. If the lot is really over a hundred feet deep like it says in PS, then I think this should go for ask. It is a perfectly clean, rational, beautiful, house with a place for your car. What more could you ask?
I am a little confused by the pictures of the Pratt sculpture garden, which are not adjacent but rather a block away, no?
It would be great to add a nice sunroom with a roofdeck on top. This is a terrific property (from what I can gather from these pictures).

Posted by: sam at June 16, 2009 2:34 PM

sam, pratt campus should be right across the st from this ppty

Posted by: more4less at June 16, 2009 2:58 PM

theres still idiots willing to drop money on homes based on renderings?

Posted by: cornerbodega at June 16, 2009 3:19 PM

I tried to see these with the realtor. She never showed or called to follow-up. The building is a complete work-zone, nothing finished and full of graffiti. The photos are all mock-ups.

Posted by: papacabo at June 16, 2009 3:39 PM

papacabo's right. These have not been renovated yet, just in progress from what I've seen (if they've even started doing any renovation at all).

That said, I think the larger unit is great, and if you could get it for just under $1MM, it would be a fantastic deal in my opinion.

Posted by: 1842 at June 16, 2009 3:46 PM

right, the Pratt campus is across the street and visible from the 2nd floor front windows.
The renderings had me fooled, they look like photos. I still say the plan for the bigger house is really attractive. But that block is kind of ratty looking.

Posted by: sam at June 16, 2009 4:11 PM

As I recall, the owner of these bought the entire lot next door and on the Washington Avenue side with the free standing mansion and the addition lot. He/she then decided to sell the carriage houses and develop the other two lots. This is zoned R6B, so you'd have something contextual in size (40foot street wall, 50 foot overall height), and it is landmarked I think, so any development would be contextual in scope as well.

Posted by: 1842 at June 16, 2009 4:14 PM

is the garden shared then? or does it back up right onto the park that was mentioned?

Posted by: the chicken at June 16, 2009 5:44 PM

Ha! They just RAISED the price on the smaller unit by $50,000.

Posted by: bkbornandbred at June 16, 2009 5:49 PM

I can't wait to see this property when it's renovation is finished. The renderings make a beautiful impression, and if the results match then I think this property would go for ask. Having the background (the sunken back patio could be nice, plus the big backyard if Sam is right on the lot size) and the garage make it like living in a less dense neighborhood. The bedrooms are small, but still good sizes. We have a half bath on the first floor, always a plus. The building hopefully will match these renderings, and it will be close to perfect. I admit I don't know the neighborhood very well, or stuff like schools, but the fact that its off the G is slightly a turn off, but you're not far from the transfer to the A and C, its still as a whole a good property.

Posted by: thetycoon at June 16, 2009 9:44 PM

As per papacabo's comments, I walked by and this property is a complete dump. No work has started - the roof has numerous holes in it, the foundation looks like it needs serious work, and the work permits have actually expired.

The renderings and copy from the listing are, IMO, BLANTANT and SHAMEFUL misrepresentations by Ellen at Brooklyn Bridge Realty. The property description clearly states that, "...this lovely 19th century carriage house HAS BEEN tastefully reconfigured to create two, unique, side-by-side town homes", more than suggesting that the work is done and the places are ready for a new owner to move in. It’s misleading and pretty slimy... though I guess I'm in good company as the NYTimes Real Estate and Brownstoner editors fell for it as well.

Boo Brooklyn Bridge Realty!

Posted by: BT at June 20, 2009 4:29 PM

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