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June 23, 2009

Co-op of the Day: 30 Willow Place, #4

This railroad-style co-op at 30 Willow Place has a nice feel to it and has a charming, if not quite as convenient as some parts of Brooklyn Heights, location going for it as well. While the layout is sure to deter most people looking for a place to stash their first child, it could work nicely for as a bachelor or couple's pad, especially for someone wanting a separate home office space. This place is also likely to appeal to someone with a thing for historic details. (Nice hardware!) Now for the numbers: Monthly maintenance is $795, a trifle high for a 720-square-foot apartment in a non-doorman building. Asking price is $565,000. Achievable?
30 Willow Place, #4 [Corcoran] GMAP P*Shark

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That office could be converted to a sweet hallway.

Posted by: northsloperenter at June 23, 2009 12:47 PM

It sure had gorgeous details. The layout is a little challenging but it's a lot of space for the price. If I were confirmed single or childless I'd seriously consider it.

Posted by: TownhouseLady at June 23, 2009 12:52 PM

An inconvenient location?

Biased though I may be, I actually think this is one of the best locations in the Heights.

You're close enough to prime Heights areas like Montague Street and the Promenade, and let's be honest, there's not a whole lot more than that. Here, you're also steps away from Atlantic Ave and a short walk to Cobble Hill and Carroll Gardens. You've got a lot of options.

However, I will concede that it could be closer to a subway...

Posted by: alsawo at June 23, 2009 12:59 PM

784/sqft doesn't seem too bad for brooklyn heights. maybe this area comps lower because of distance from amenities? the layout seems quite aesthetically pleasing from the photos, but it would make the place much more difficult to live in with two people. also, the location of the bathroom is unfortunate.

Posted by: perhaps at June 23, 2009 1:01 PM

This is lovely, and since we've seen a parking space priced at $35K, not a bad deal at $525

Posted by: DeLepp at June 23, 2009 1:02 PM

Is it a walk-up??

Posted by: bk14 at June 23, 2009 1:02 PM

I love the hinges!

Probably not a very good reason to choose an apartment though.

Posted by: badgersmack at June 23, 2009 1:08 PM

love the building, the location, the parking. it is a walk-up. last year the unit on top of this sold super quickly but in the 400s, but a 5th floor walk-up is really much worse than 4th floor imo. I saw that unit. Very sweet. Lovely big rooms and light. Perfect for a single gal/guy.

Posted by: Ringo at June 23, 2009 1:09 PM

It says gated parking is "available" -- did it say it was *included*?

Posted by: tybur6 at June 23, 2009 1:28 PM

I didn't even read the listing here, but as I say I did see the 5th floor sister-unit. parking was available at $75 a month. They have a fenced lot next door. I wonder if they ever consider selling that lot...

Posted by: Ringo at June 23, 2009 1:37 PM

> That office could be converted to a sweet hallway.

Zing!

Too many little "rooms" and an awkward layout. The hinges, however - as pointed out above - are nice.

Posted by: SnarkSlope at June 23, 2009 2:14 PM

Great details and light. Location Ok vs. anywhere else in the Heights. Layout, however, is a big, big drawback.

I think they make a mistake calling it a 2 BR. You'd REALLY have to twist things around to make that work.

Posted by: JKB at June 23, 2009 2:42 PM

Well, they call it a 1.5 BR. But, yes, trying to make it more than it is makes it look like less than it is. It's a good one bedroom plus some extra space. I find it quite beautiful.

Posted by: Nomi at June 23, 2009 2:53 PM

Since the general concensus on this site is that Brooklyn Heights is the least desirable and least convenient neighborhood in Brooklyn. I think we should just all agree that this should be low-income senior housing and focus our attention on more desirable locations such as Fourth Avenue or Red Hook.

Posted by: Minard Lafever at June 23, 2009 3:09 PM

I hate the floor plan - the kitchen is in a weird/bad location.

Posted by: FloatingWorld at June 23, 2009 3:49 PM

i've also seen the 5th floor walkup above it. the layout is terrible, the kitchen is too small for a table but still eats up alot of room, living room is cramped. and don't get me started on the 'den' and 'office.' #5 also showed its age but not in a good way. cracks everywhere, none of the walls met the floor. but maybe #4 is better kept up.

the location isn't great. yes it's within walking distance to shops, but i hate the idea of a 10 minute walk if i run out of something 11 o'clock at night.

no way this trades above $500k.

Posted by: jasonliu at June 23, 2009 5:00 PM

Definitely old school--lots of little rooms. The lack of a dining area is a big, big drawback, tho. So I'll say this sells for around 500-515k. If you're the kind who eats out all the time, it may not be a problem.

Posted by: Bolder at June 23, 2009 7:06 PM

So, jasonliu, is the table they are showing in the kitchen photo very small, or too big for the room? Agreed -- if it's not really an eat-in kitchen -- big problem. If there's enough room for a small table for everyday which can expand for company, that's ok.

Posted by: Nomi at June 23, 2009 9:29 PM

nomi, the kitchen table in the pic looks more like a console. in #5, the kitchen was arranged different, there was more floor space and less cabinetry. and even then, there was a table that can realistically only seat 2. you can maybe shoehorn 4 people and have a new york dinner party, but no more.

Posted by: jasonliu at June 23, 2009 10:09 PM

Thanks, jasonliu.

Posted by: Nomi at June 23, 2009 11:23 PM

Good grief, on the negatives here. This *is* Brooklyn Heights. Where is sam today?

Posted by: BklynSoFar at June 24, 2009 12:07 AM

I didn't mean to be negative. It still looks really nice to me. Love the windows, the woodwork, hardware, the floors and the kitchen despite possible table problem. And the layout is mostly ok with me. Feels airy considering the narrowness. And I don't mind the little rooms giving separation to the bedroom.

Posted by: Nomi at June 24, 2009 12:23 AM

i would be positive on this place if the owner was asking 400k

Posted by: jasonliu at June 24, 2009 10:14 AM

I second Jasonliu

This is an example of how irrational the Brooklyn real estate market can be, and the pointless markup that "prewar charm" gets you. The kitchen looks nice but the layout is prewar in the worst way. It simply isnt functional or practical.

If I'm going into debt for half a million bucks and forking over sizable chunk (if not all) of my life savings, than I want a place that fucntional enough for me to live there for a good long time. This apartment has the same layout of the places my friends and I rented when we were right out of college. Screw the moldings and the fixtures and the silly Victorian door hinges (who cares?!?) and give me light, closets, a dinning area and functional space.

Posted by: clintonhillbuyer at June 24, 2009 11:22 AM

Just to correct an earlier post, the apartment on the 5th floor was listed last year at $450,000, but sold for $522,000.
They had priced it low to attract buyers, and had multiple buyer's bid it up.

Posted by: eddienyc1 at June 24, 2009 6:42 PM

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