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April 21, 2009
Tuesday Blogwrap

Tom Otterness-Loading Dock. Photo by pixonomy from the Brownstoner Flickr Pool.
New Paint Job at Forman [WGPA]
As the Worm Turns [Brooklyn Based]
Killer Dog Rampage in Park Slope 'Tot Lot' [Gawker]
Kossuth Place Co-named for Jose Sucuzhanay [Bushwick BK]
The Oddest, Shabbiest Building on 7th Avenue [Here is Park Slope]
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"Tom Otterness"
Isn't this jerk-off who killed a dog as part of a film he made?
Posted by: East New York at April 21, 2009 4:40 PM
re: the killer dogs in the tot lot. what is a tot lot? on one hand i agree, keep your damn dogs leashed but my lord i just read that rant from the park slope parents website on gawker, fuh-reaaaaaak!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 21, 2009 4:44 PM
Yes, ENY he is. There was a big heated discussion on here about a year or two about it when he had some new sculpture on display somewhwere.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 21, 2009 5:10 PM
I have a hard time reconciling the playfulness of Otterness' sculptures that often appear in playgrounds with the fact he killed a dog for art. And I have to admit that I really like his work. Not a new dilemma, I know, many artists can be sited for similar contradictions between their art and the person creating it.
Posted by: Schultz at April 21, 2009 5:35 PM
I sympathize w/ 'rents who don't want dogs in "their" park but ended up wanting to take a few rottweilers there after reading that piece.
Posted by: Arkady at April 21, 2009 5:37 PM
"I have a hard time reconciling the playfulness of Otterness' sculptures that often appear in playgrounds with the fact he killed a dog for art."
Me, too. And I'm indifferent at best about his "art."
Posted by: East New York at April 21, 2009 5:38 PM
I think over all, he's a much better artist than Hitler ever was.
By the way, check out this link to this high tech NJ studio/foundry where Tom gets his work done. http://www.digitalatelier.net/projects.html
CAD modeling and rapid prototyping services.. very cool.
Posted by: IMBY at April 21, 2009 5:59 PM
Now I am sort of sad I canceled my sub to the PSP, but it is prob for the best. Of all the things to mock about Brooklyn parenting culture though, this letter seems weak. Especially considering the author is kind of right. Dogs don't always react well to a pack of screaming tots that want to pet them.
However, I can say from personal experience, taking a tot to the dog lot is a much better experience... as long as you pick the small dog run so that your tot does not come to actual harm.
Posted by: Heather at April 21, 2009 6:38 PM
She says her dog stays home, does that mean it never goes outside to use the doggie-potty? Nor gets any exercise other than running away from her rug rat for fear of its own safety?
Posted by: BobfromBklyn at April 21, 2009 7:19 PM
Tom Otterness is a grade A Number one A**hole. Anyone who kills an animal for "art" is no artist, and is in fact barely human. That playfulness is more likely fullblown psychopathy. There was another "artist" - Vito Acconci I think his name is- who put a cat in a box for a week in an art gallery as "performance" art.
People who call themselves artists and harm animals or other people as supposedly a function of their art are fakes. Art is about creation and expression. I don't see any contradiction - if you think killing an animal makes you an artist you haven't even begun to process the meaning of the word. I hope Otterness rots in hell.
Posted by: bxgrl at April 21, 2009 7:43 PM
For the love of god, the guy has apologized profusely and you wouldn't have a clue that he ever did this in the first place if he hadn't apologized for it.
unless the dog he killed was one you or a loved one loved dearly, you need to shut the F up and move on to the next fashionable line item you mindless sheep droid.
btw i am a dog loving multiple dog owner.
Posted by: BrooklynLove at April 21, 2009 8:22 PM
I can overlook his youthful stupidity. He admits to it. His act was regrettable, deplorable, and he admits as much. Move on.
"Art is about creation and expression"... what a load of bullshit.
ps Vito Acconci is great. Check out his latest at lacma
Posted by: buttermilk channel at April 21, 2009 8:40 PM
"One noted installation/performance piece from this period is Seedbed (January 15-29 1971). In Seedbed Acconci lay hidden underneath a gallery-wide ramp installed at the Sonnabend Gallery, masturbating while vocalizing into a loudspeaker his fantasies about the visitors walking above him on the ramp."
Posted by: SnarkSlope at April 21, 2009 10:04 PM
He was probably imagining future Park Slopers...
Posted by: buttermilk channel at April 21, 2009 11:43 PM
bklynlove and buttermilk channel- its always nice to read truly inspiring and compassionate posts from the 2 of you. At least, it would be if you ever wrote inspiring and compassionate posts of even mediocre intelligence.
It takes a real lack of ethics and morals to kill an innocent animal for "art." How brainless do you have to be to be incapable of comprehending that fact? The only reason he apologized was because he was terrified of ruining his career. But why waste my time explaining anything to someone so inept at social discourse he has to call people names to hide the fact he lacks the vocabulary to fashion an real rebuttal.
Acconci is great? Mwah ha ha ha ha ha ha.... Yeah. If you can't tell the difference between art and garbage. Which, obviously buttermilk channel, you can't.
Posted by: bxgrl at April 22, 2009 12:24 AM
Classy, Bxgrl. Classy.
Posted by: buttermilk channel at April 22, 2009 12:33 AM
As were you, bc. Or did you think you and bklynlove wrote with any particular finesse?
Posted by: bxgrl at April 22, 2009 12:44 AM
Hey bxgirl, I'll try and give you a classy response, ok? lol
We own a dog and a cat, so we certainly are not in favor of animal abuse or murder. And what he did was reprehensible, without a doubt.
At the same time, let's put it in perspective.
a. In this country we kill, in shelters, almost 600 dogs per HOUR, that's every hour, ever day, and every week, 24/7. 5 million dogs a year.
b. He was twenty-five when he did it, and has apologized profusely.
c. This was over thirty years ago. The average time served for homicide of a HUMAN in this country is less than six years, and the average time served for rape is under five and a half years. But when they get out we're supposed to take into consideration that they've 'paid their debt to society' and give them a second chance.
If we can give a murderer a second chance, surely we can extend that here.
Posted by: denton at April 22, 2009 6:44 AM
denton- thank, yes. Yours was classier and didn't tell me anything I didn't already know.
It doesn't excuse anything-this guy merely apologized (where does the profusely come from?) and has not taken one iota of responsibility.
Can anyone verify that he has since contributed one dime to an animal shelter or worked to stop animal abuse? If you can show me that, I'd be much more forgiving- still doesn't mean I think he's a great artist by any stretch. His work is cute and sly and comes out of the same shallow character that adopted and shot a dog so he could film it suffering to death.
So you think that because shelters kill animals and rapists get out with short sentences we should just look the other way because, hey Tommy's an "artist" and it was 30 years ago? That makes him a better person now? And yes, murderers sometimes do get a second chance but as you and I both know circumstances have a lot to do with that.
You would have to abe a pretty cold, bloodless human being to do what Otterness did. Maybe you're used to taking your animals to a nice clean vet's office for euthanasia. But having seen animals suffer and die painfully, I will tell you yet again, any person capable of adopting an animal, then taking it home to shoot it and watch it die while you film it isn't much of a human being. 30 years and a "profuse" apology made only to salvage your reputation doesn't change what you are.
Posted by: bxgrl at April 22, 2009 9:01 AM
philosophical question: is it ever justifiable to impose your own morality onto others?
Posted by: the chicken at April 22, 2009 9:38 AM
oops, denton- make that "self-serving" apology.
Considering that Otterness seems to have never put his regret into any kind of action- like working against animal abuse or donating money to shelters- I can't credit him with much sincerity.
Posted by: bxgrl at April 22, 2009 9:42 AM
What's your definition of morality? Don't you think being against cruelty and suffering is a "morality" as opposed to a universal socializing principle? We're not talking killing to survive- we're talking gratuitious cruelty, done to maximize pain and discomfort. If society operated on the idea no one should impose their morality on anyone else, we wouldn't be a society- we'd still be living in little groups, hunting and gathering.
Posted by: bxgrl at April 22, 2009 9:54 AM
I'm not taking a position on either side - I'm just interested in the points of discussion.
Whether you are for or against something is entirely your privilege. Whether you can impose that view though is another matter.
Society defines it's own moralities by laws. You want to live in our society then you have to obey our laws. i'm pretty sure that what Mr Otterness did is against the law and therefore the morality of the society that he is living in should judge him for that.
Posted by: the chicken at April 22, 2009 10:24 AM
I totally agree with you, chicken.
Posted by: bxgrl at April 22, 2009 11:21 AM
Spare me the self-stroking BXgirl. I have to deal with way too many over-educated over-paid under-brained people at work, please don't subject me to that same crap here.
I don't have the patience to put together a scholarly piece for you on this subject. Mindless drones referencing the story about the dog they read on some blog every time this artist is a subject doesn't deserve the effort.
Once you're done being impressed with yourself you should give some thought to whether ariculate stupidity is any less stupid then unarticulate stupidity.
Nice about face by the way.
Posted by: BrooklynLove at April 22, 2009 7:36 PM

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