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April 29, 2009

Real Housewives: Simon and Alex's Renovation Revealed!

An hour before Simon & Alex's house renovation was unveiled on last night's new episode of The Real Housewives on New York, we stopped by their Cobble Hill house for a guided tour. The reality show couple livea in the lower duplex (plus renovated cellar) with their two kids and have two rentals upstairs. Enjoy the pics! Update: As a commenter points out, how funny was that to see Marty in the background of their housewarming party on the show last night!




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An hour before? talk about on the scene, Mr. B
what did they serve you?

Posted by: chrishavens at April 29, 2009 9:05 AM

They offered wine but we were parched from the BPL panel so we went with a Pellegrino...They were very nice.

Posted by: brownstoner at April 29, 2009 9:08 AM

Not to be snarky but this could very well be one of the worse brownstone renos I've seen in a long time. How bad? Let me count the ways....kitchen, living room, curtains, paint, etc etc etc etc etc

Posted by: 7andfive at April 29, 2009 9:12 AM

Fun renovation. I love when people make their homes special and unique.....

Posted by: PHfamily at April 29, 2009 9:14 AM

Truth be told, Alex and Simon are actually growing on me on the show. First season they were obnoxious, but they're seeming more and more normal and likable. This renovation, however, it not. There are some okay details (tin ceilings, exposed brick) but it's hard to appreciate that with the tacky, amateur-looking decoration.

Posted by: alsawo at April 29, 2009 9:18 AM

I've grown to like Alex more this season too.

This is not my style, but I loved the reveal.

Did I spy the housewives plus Marty at the party? He really is everywhere.

Posted by: Ringo at April 29, 2009 9:23 AM

Better Half called it 'Bordello' red, so I'm going with that. Cozy in January, asphyxiating in July? Maybe they'll be in St. Barths then?

Posted by: cobblehiller at April 29, 2009 9:25 AM

yes - Marty was totally at their party!

Let's see - I realllly like the kitchen - the rest of the reno not my style some of the flooring I liked I think in the living room

however my husband said their renovation was way better than Jill's - so there you go...

Posted by: gemini10 at April 29, 2009 9:30 AM

alex and simon are the heart and soul of brooklyn, and i will continue to worship and adore them no matter how bordello red their living room. now ya know!

Posted by: brentTBC at April 29, 2009 9:30 AM

That red room screams 'Den of Iniquity' but other than that, it's ok. With everything looking so shiny and new, it was a bit shocking to see the pale floors and stair spindles.

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 29, 2009 9:32 AM

OMG!!!! Someone that saw the show last night, please tell me it looks better than these photos.
I don't know if I should hold my tongue or let it rip, as I'm sure Alex & Simon are lovely people as noted by others who met them at the last B'stoner drink up.

Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 29, 2009 9:33 AM

each to their own.

Posted by: the chicken at April 29, 2009 9:34 AM

BRG, I believe nice people can have hideous taste too ya know.

Posted by: cobblehiller at April 29, 2009 9:36 AM

Marty is everywhere...There were some aspects of the reno that I thought were nice and others not so much. We all have different taste and as long as Alex and Simon are happy with their reno -- Congrats!! I do think their place is more inviting than Jill's -- sorry.

Posted by: faithful at April 29, 2009 9:36 AM

Not my style either, though as faithful says I would much rather live there than Jill's place and I think its great that they made a house that they feel is a reflection of them. They have also grown on me as TV characters and as people, since I got to chat with them at the last Stoner gathering. Congrats guys.

Posted by: wasder at April 29, 2009 9:39 AM

I'm a big fan of bordello style. Love that red!

Posted by: rh at April 29, 2009 9:41 AM

PS...As a vendor at the hippest flea market in the world (well, in Brooklyn), I can tell you alta kockers, this is what the kids go for these days.

Posted by: rh at April 29, 2009 9:44 AM

"this is what the kids go for these days."

Alex & Simon are not "kids" and "kids" don't buy houses.

That's also why we landlords write into the lease that painting is prohibited, to protect our properties from "kids' tastes." I may sound like a curmudgeon but I'm the landlord.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 29, 2009 9:48 AM

I love the red - I actually like it all except for the kitchen (cabinets are a little too light)

Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 29, 2009 9:49 AM

me likey :)

*rob*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 29, 2009 9:57 AM

They certainly got their appliances for free -- the prominent display of GE Monogram -- what else did they get free?

Posted by: BH76 at April 29, 2009 10:07 AM

YUCK!!!!

The What

Someday this war is gonna end...

Posted by: Return of The What at April 29, 2009 10:10 AM

Yeah, obviously got stuff for free. From GE, Zarin, etc.

Posted by: Carol Gardens at April 29, 2009 10:11 AM

Every now and then the What and I are in perfect agreement.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 29, 2009 10:13 AM

"Truth be told, Alex and Simon are actually growing on me on the show."

That is certainly my feeling, which is probably largely based on my meeting and chatting with them at length at the last gathering and finding them to be truly lovely people in person.

Posted by: Biff Champion at April 29, 2009 10:18 AM

Wish I would have made it to that gathering!

Posted by: alsawo at April 29, 2009 10:25 AM

I've always liked Alex and Simon - I always feel bad when you guys bash them - especially since they read the blog.

Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 29, 2009 10:31 AM

Yeah, you do sound like a curmudgeon, Dave. ;) By kids, I mean anyone younger than my 43 years. 30 somethings certainly do buy homes. I lost my homeowner virginity at 29.

I write into my lease that tenants cannot paint molding and mantels, but walls are walls. I use wackier colors than any of my tenants anyway.

Posted by: rh at April 29, 2009 10:34 AM

dave is just jealous they dont have a real homos of nyc show that he can star on. like megan from rock of love and charm school says, jealousy is a disease ;)


*rob*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 29, 2009 10:35 AM

so i guess the renovation isn't actually finished? i hope they're putting a deck off that kitchen!

i prefer whatever room it is with the blues/greys as i'm not personally a big fan of the red/black scheme - but i think it works for them. overall, they did a good job of personalizing and modernizing while keeping/restoring enough of the historical details so that it still feels like a townhouse as opposed to a wanna-be modern condo. i would like to see more of the lighting, as that was what we found most challenging in our renovation.

Posted by: i disagree at April 29, 2009 10:37 AM

I have no clue who any of these people are, rob. The closest thing I watch to a reality show would be Chop, Cut, Rebuild or American Hot Rod. LOL

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 29, 2009 10:38 AM

""Truth be told, Alex and Simon are actually growing on me on the show.""

I'm sure they had a 'sit down' with the producers after last season. They've obviously been positioned/edited more positively this season.

I'm betting they've had to do a lot of 'damage control' over how they came off last year. I imagine the principal at PS 29 wasn't too 'thrilled' with them for starters, let alone the other parents who actually wanted to send their kids to the school who were essentially 'dissed' by Alex's statements. Didn't she say something like "It [PS 29] wasn't even our 13th choice"? What a bone-headed thing to say. Way to 'grease the wheels' for your kids, lady.

Posted by: cobblehiller at April 29, 2009 10:39 AM

I'm not sure this reno could be any uglier.

Although PS 29 may not have been on the wish list, sending their kids to a well regarded public school in a pricey brownstone neighborhood actually puts them on par with far more "Real Housewives of NYC" and gives the show a little more credibility. Alex may not be as wealthy as the other wives, but she's still living a very desirable life.

Posted by: Architerrorist at April 29, 2009 10:44 AM

That is gross!!!! Honestly, that kitchen is weird and doesn't go with anything. I like the ceiling and the wood floors but I imagine they were always there. The red with red couch is, NO JOKE, exactly what I pictured the inside of the old whorehouse on Lincoln to have once looked like. Complete with the light fixture.

Posted by: LincolnSlope at April 29, 2009 10:52 AM

I think it turned out pretty cool. They seemed pleased with it on the show last night, so good for them for successfully executing their vision. They are growing on me this season as well, particularly Alex. They live one block over from us and are always very friendly. I heard from someone affiliated with the show that the other women were pissed Bravo helped them with the product placement deal...

Posted by: JBrklyn at April 29, 2009 11:09 AM

Props to Alex & Simon for living in the house while under renovation and for at least putting their own spin on things.

As an aside, this couple does seem more down-to-earth than Ramona & Mario. Two of the craziest (Ramona)and rudest (Mario)individuals here in NYC.

Posted by: tiptoe at April 29, 2009 11:17 AM

a. no way they are that different from the monkeys they portrayed themselves as last year...
b. who gives their kids a french name if neither of them speaks french?
c. this show is stupid - 2 arent even housewives, actually soon to be 3.
d. just lame lame lame


but im glad they seem nice in real life to whomever knows them

Posted by: sbuffon at April 29, 2009 11:19 AM

As the architect for the project, working on this thing was a lot of fun, and for all you haters out there the place looks better than the collection of photos above. Although disclaimer I had nothing to do with the paint choices and lighting design - the whole vibe of the decor is different that anything I would do myself. But it's really fun, I mean who can argue with a bright red room and a 10' high photograph of Alice Cooper?

To answer one of the questions above, yes the deck is going to be built in phase two, as with some other parts. Who knows, perhaps that would be done in the next season, but really this is being held up by my welder, Weng, having gone MIA he's now somewhere in Indonesia. When he gets back, they get a deck.

Posted by: Smokychimp at April 29, 2009 11:29 AM

Oh and also, these people are totally reasonable, nice, and fun to be around in the real world. On the teevees, the editors are looking for conflict and nuttiness, so that gets played up.

Posted by: Smokychimp at April 29, 2009 11:34 AM

I don't see any sign of the book shelves they said they wanted to build and fill with "classics that we're going to buy at the Strand. Because, you know, it's so nice to have lots of books about" even if you don't read them...

Don't think you can tell much from these photos, but I DO like the big glass windows/doors in the back walls.

Posted by: gkw at April 29, 2009 11:41 AM

I love deep red walls in traditional rooms, I mean rooms with contrasting moldings and fireplace mantels etc.
This paint job looks to be very well done. It is difficult to get good, deep, even red like that. I really like it.
The red couch and lamp shades on the other hand, overdo it.
But it is a very luxe statement.

Posted by: mcKenzie at April 29, 2009 11:46 AM

As interested as I am in their reno, Im 100x more interested in how they are in person. Are they essentially how they are portrayed on the show or are they totally different?

Posted by: Mrs. Limestone at April 29, 2009 11:52 AM

What a bunch of two face losers you people are. If Alex and Simon were not on TV you would rip this renovation to shreds, that being said is it St. Barts or the plastic pool in the back yard for Alex and Simon this summer?

Posted by: billyboomer at April 29, 2009 12:00 PM

Oh please these people are LOONS - you have to act like an ass in order to have something showing you acting like an ass. The show isnt a newspaper article where you can take a single quote out of context - they have whole conversations of them acting like fools (all of them btw) - and before someone tells me that everyone acts stupid sometimes - let me say - They choose to be on the show. TWICE!

Bragging and showing off (as well as exaggerating your accomplishments and wealth) is DISGUSTING and CLASS-LESS ALWAYS....doing so on TV is beyond pathetic and frankly is EXACTLY what is wrong with our society - it might make for interesting television, but you can never convince me (or anyone else with any character or class) that these people arent horrible...because they are.

Posted by: fsrg at April 29, 2009 12:06 PM

Red walls, red & black furniture, it just reminds me of my first apartment in 1972. All that's missing is a stucco wall.
Sorry but I expected something a little more stylish. But to each his own, I wish them many happy days there.

Posted by: cggirl at April 29, 2009 12:22 PM

I am glad hear that they are nicer and more sane in person, but really, even with the editing playing up their more excessive nuttiness, they are serious social climbers. At least they stick up for Brooklyn.

They're definitely eating up the attention, invites, and freebies. It's funny how they invite local bloggers around to get even more publicity. (Pics also over at Cobble Hill Blog.) Hard to believe they're not really, really pretentious. At least they've calmed down with the "En Francais! En Francais!" stuff.

Posted by: Carol Gardens at April 29, 2009 12:23 PM

Wow, fsrg, billyboomer, something dead floating in your coffees this morning?

There are plenty of things "wrong with our society" that have nothing to do with exaggerating accomplishments or showing off wealth. And to believe that any one who brags or shows off, (even in mildly amusing and endearingly honest and open ways that I've always found Alex and Simon to do) is HORRIBLE, is naive and judgmental to the extreme.

They expose their vulnerabilities and insecurities more than most, but their struggles are no more horrid than most couples' struggles. Just different. And fwiw, I found them to be by far the most sympathetic people on the show last year as well as this year. I couldn't fully understand the bashing beyond some sense of collective cringing at their openness. Which is what I most appreciate.

I think they are fascinating, flawed, open to a fault about their social interests and insecurities, loving parents doing their best, and seem willing to be honest about the importance of perceptions and judgments.

There. I said it.

Posted by: Nokilissa at April 29, 2009 12:24 PM

"conflict and nuttiness"

Smokey, dear, but the producers can't 'create' the nuttiness, it has to be there to start with. And it is...in spades with these two. THey may play it up, but the words are spoken by the people.


Posted by: cobblehiller at April 29, 2009 12:25 PM

A few unrelated things:

1. reds are hard to get right imo. I once had a red dining room and went thru 4 paint jobs. I don't think the reds here are right, but I've been there.

2. I'm not 100% sure why they're opening themselves even MORE by asking neighborhood bloggers over. I wouldn't be surprised if I saw this listed for sale sometime soon. Not sure why I think this, altho I've always wondered how it is they have so much money to spend on fluff (I secretly think they can't afford this habit).

3. I was told my a somewhat reliable source that they owned only the bottom two floors. That they bought the building, but sold off the top two floors. Wonder if this is true. I'm more interested in how they condo-ized the place than the renovation.


Posted by: Ringo at April 29, 2009 12:41 PM

Nokilissa - its not "anyone" who brags or shows off- its people whose existence is defined by bragging and showing off. And sorry but maybe you have not thought about the psychology that is the root cause of our current economic crisis - but the people in this show are perfect examples of that psychological condition.
The show has been around for a number of years - anyone who watched it (or even heard about it) and the CHOOSES to be on it is either severely damaged or just a narcissistic pig...or both.

Greed, arrogance, narcissism, etc...yes the people on the show are "open", and now I can plainly see that they are despicable human beings...entertaining (in a douche chill way) but still despicable.


Posted by: fsrg at April 29, 2009 12:45 PM

ringo- you're so right! I love red rooms (not these red rooms however) but finding the right red can make you seriously bonkers. My kitchen is a wonderful brickish red- but i find that it doesn't have enough punch to it because its a middle room without much light si I'm now making myseldf insane looking at other reds.

fsrq- since according to everyone who has met them they are sweet and nice, the fact that they are on the show hardly condemns to the deepest circle of hell. They aren't out there killing cats or babies- they're just all too human. Like the rest of us.

Posted by: bxgrl at April 29, 2009 12:58 PM

I think it was the late Mrs. Astor, Brooke Astor, who made red rooms popular. She had a red dining room or library, I forget, it was written up several times. She and other society types would spend hundreds of thousands for hand-rubbed painted walls. Exquisite, beyond the means of mere mortals, hence the chic.
Why are people surprised or appalled at the social climbing couple in Cobble Hill? I have never watched the show, but snobbishness and social climbing is NYC's official sport.

Posted by: mcKenzie at April 29, 2009 1:08 PM

Ringo, a small correction: they didn't condo the place. As typical, they own the whole building, live in the garden unit and the top two floors are rentals. Also, agree with you that reds are extremely difficult -- the only time I've ever seen it perfect is basically pure cadmium red, done in a modern setting (see Bar Etats-Unis on 81st St).

Posted by: Smokychimp at April 29, 2009 1:15 PM

bxgrl - maybe too hyperbolic an example - but many people thought Hitler was charming too.....so what

I'm not saying they are the equivalent of child rapists or animal abusers - I am saying that they are tacky, shallow, classless, shameless and pathetic - and I find it amusing that the people here who condemn people for such horrible transgressions as taking up too much sidewalk space while caring for children, driving an SUV or for simply being wealthy - can defend people who can have countless hours of their lives depicted on television and the only thing shown is materialism, snobbery, classism and pathetic social striving and not a SINGLE selfless act.

Posted by: fsrg at April 29, 2009 1:18 PM

fsrq- to be honest- I never watched the show, or have any interest in it. But you seem a little - er- overexcited about your perception of them. I take you do watch the show. I can only go by what people who I know and who know them, say.

Sure it says something that anyone would want to be on a reality show like this, but a wholesale condemnation of them? those shows are edited to show the worst- you aren't going to see any selfless acts or generosity on them. But that doesn't mean they don't perform them or that they are as flat and lifeless as the producer makes them out to be.

And really, Hitler? If you were hyperbolic before, you've gone to level 10 with that one.

Posted by: bxgrl at April 29, 2009 1:26 PM

Agree with bxgirl 100%.
No need to bring Hitler into it. ridiculous.

Posted by: mcKenzie at April 29, 2009 1:32 PM

I admitted it was hyperbole - it was to illustrate a point.

BxGirl watch half of one episode ( I think they are available free online somewhere - hulu maybe?) - then please tell me my (non-hitler) descriptions are even a little bit exaggerated.

Posted by: fsrg at April 29, 2009 1:41 PM

I've never watched the show. But based on these photos, the reno looks pretty bad. They may or may not be great people, but they don't have great taste.

Posted by: geekspice at April 29, 2009 1:41 PM

Well I always knew that our style of decor would draw nothing but controversy. Firstly the colors as captured above are not accurately reflected. Mr B took these images last night with a little digital point & shoot with a flash and that combined with the color adjustment on your individual computer monitors heavily distorts the actual color. This is not a complaint about Mr B's photos, just a comment to take into consideration when viewing them.

For those that seem to hate our house largely based on their hate or disdain for us I would say that while, yes we chose to appear on this show, it is VERY hard to get an accurate picture of any of the people who appear on it. For all of us, the best & worst aspects of our lives are the scenes that make it to air and it is very hard to capture the totality of who we are based on a few selected minutes of us each week over a 12 week period.

We will be posting many before, during & after pictures on our own website over the next few days for those that are interested.

The parlor level was completely renovated with all new plumbing, electrics, HVAC, new structural support I beams, a completely rebuilt extension rear wall, a new kitchen & 1/2 bath, as well as new flooring & sheet rock in a 9 week period between Sept 4th 2008 & November 1st 2008. We managed to keep all the original moldings as well as the original pocket doors and the tin & plaster ceilings. The ceiling rose in the living room is made of wood and that we kept as well.

For anyone who's renovated in NYC to achieve all of that under the glare of cameras in a 9 week period while complying with all NYC building codes, inspections and so on is remarkable and I am not afraid to say that! :D

Our main contractors, the Pinnacle Group did a sterling effort as did the electricians, plumbers/HVAC guys, steel & roofers, Kitchen cabinet manufacturers and so and and so on. Without their commitment to get this job in 9 weeks there is no way we would have finished in time.

Simon van Kempen


Posted by: 99luftballons at April 29, 2009 1:42 PM

You are certainly entitled to your view fsrg, but I think your vehemence and fury is misplaced. It is not the all-too-human desire to appear to have status in the eyes of one's peers nor the desperate need to accumulate "beautiful" and expensive things that created the mess we are in. The psychopathology under THAT particular evil used and exploited the psychology of which we now speak. There is no indication that Simon and Alex have a moral compass that is askew. There is no indication that they have ever stolen from anyone, or that they have perpetuated near financial fraud on anyone. There is also little evidence to my eye that they are arrogant.

Posted by: Nokilissa at April 29, 2009 1:43 PM

"For all of us, the best & worst aspects of our lives are the scenes that make it to air"

Please describe what of your "best" aspects of your life make it on the show???

and if the show does not accurately depict your "life" why would you sign on for TWO seasons (so far) of a show that portends to depict your life as "reality"????

Posted by: fsrg at April 29, 2009 1:46 PM

fsrg- why the hostility? Your comments are unnecessarily rude/aggressive….

Posted by: PHfamily at April 29, 2009 2:05 PM

fsrq - I am not going to get in to a back & forth as this is a Brooklyn Real Estate blog and is not the forum for it. Additionally to do so via the written word is also not the best way to communicate.

You are certainly entitled to your own opinions based on the show as I am mine.

If you see us at a future Brownstoner gathering (Alex & I attended the last one) I am certainly prepared to discuss it with you in person.

best

Simon van Kempen

Posted by: 99luftballons at April 29, 2009 2:05 PM

fsrq--perhaps you are putting a bit too much stock in the cultural relevance of "reality" TV.

Simon and Alex made the house that suited them and I congratulate them on that. And by being communicative to us here about what their experiences are on the show they make themselves more human and certainly more sympathetic.

Posted by: wasder at April 29, 2009 2:06 PM

I'm trying to figure out which of the many, many "best" aspects of my own life, which of my charitable and unselfish and beautiful acts, would make it onto a reality show... There are just so, so many to pick from!

I think the reno is a little dark (that could be the lighting in the pictures) and busy. It's hard for me to imagine what things like the light fixtures look like in real life. Sometimes I wonder if I could pull of chandeliers in my apartment, and I tend to think not. I need more (lighter) photos to really judge.

Anyway, it's pretty obviously what they wanted, and it does show a lot of personality. I hope their kids like it too. I don't think it's my taste, but that's okay with me. (And it's much closer to my taste than Jill's reno is.)

Posted by: Violet at April 29, 2009 2:10 PM

The hostility I guess is based on an upbringing that emphasized achievement, egalitarianism and modesty over bragging, classism and conspicuous displays of wealth (or fake wealth).

But you people are all correct, I am being too harsh - I am going to save my outrage for the PS stroller set, the bad architects, the horrible landlords that want to charge the market price, poor immigrant franchisees who bring tacky chain stores into our neighborhoods - and of course anything associated with RE development (beyond "affordable housing")

Posted by: fsrg at April 29, 2009 2:23 PM

god everyone has their panties in a bunch today. Happy hump day!

Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 29, 2009 2:27 PM

Reds are very difficult to get them the way you want them. Additionally they usually require 4-5 coats for true depth. I did a dining room in Chicago in Commanche red (yes, it was in the 80s and probably not a politically correct name) and I loved it

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 29, 2009 2:28 PM

Mr. B, please post a link to Simon's page once the before and after pics are done. It will be nice to see the whole reno and maybe the colors are not reflected as well as they would have liked them to be on the pics above.

Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 29, 2009 2:38 PM

Godwin's Law alert at 1:18pm.

Posted by: Biff Champion at April 29, 2009 2:42 PM

bxgrl- Going back to your question about reds in windowless kitchens, I painted mine in a medium bright coral red and it works really well considering my apartment has only one window.

Posted by: jwald at April 29, 2009 2:45 PM

I like or used to like red but it's become so expected. It's true it's too difficult to see the whole room's effect in this photo.

Jill's apartment was pretty bad. Some elements were cool separately on their own but all together it was confused.

Posted by: traditionalmod at April 29, 2009 2:49 PM

jwald- you didn't find that turned too pink? I tried a red swatch and turned on the light and ugh! My place is floorthrough so the living room is in the front and the kitchen just behind it. They are more or less open to each other.

The red I used is ok- but it doesn't look nearly as rich as is does in different lighting. What I loved about it is that it had great coverage. Other reds took 3 or 4 coats. That suprised me. I would have thought red paints tend to cover better than other colors but most I tried didn't.

I do love what reds do in small rooms. Makes them warm and cozy.

Posted by: bxgrl at April 29, 2009 2:57 PM

"The hostility I guess is based on an upbringing that emphasized achievement, egalitarianism and modesty over bragging, classism and conspicuous displays of wealth (or fake wealth)."

Not to worry fsrq, I was raised that way. too. I'm constantly mortified by statements they make!

I question their behaviors, and their motives. Although more and more I question him, not her. She looks unhappy and muted to me lately. I think the last season and the reactions to same shocked some sense into her [more is needed.] She's more and more on the side lines, and less of an actor than her husband.

Posted by: cobblehiller at April 29, 2009 3:03 PM

fsrq- at least you'll be consistent :-)

I was raised the same way too, but I would be enraged if they were hurting anyone but themselves. On the other hand, another reality show I never watched was Fear factor Family edition. What kind of parent would think of exposing their kids to the gross stuff done on that show? I would have been screaming child abuse.

Posted by: bxgrl at April 29, 2009 3:11 PM

fsrq
"I am saying that they are tacky, shallow, classless, shameless and pathetic" agreed to some extent but i think this one really should be aimed at the woman Jill on the show who seems to be from hell.

Posted by: advertmoron at April 29, 2009 3:25 PM

Ha! I so agree advertmoron. Everybody seems to admire Jill, while I find her to be a spoiled, truculent, shallow, simpering, husband manipulating narcissist. Although still not as nauseating as Ramona, the "Countess" or Kelly, (who leaves me sputtering in jaw dropping disbelief on a weekly basis)

Can someone remind me why I willingly participate in this madness?

Posted by: Nokilissa at April 29, 2009 3:48 PM

Who is Marty?

Posted by: shaybronx at April 29, 2009 3:49 PM

I noticed that other than posting these pictures and saying they were nice Brownstoner has no comment as to how he thought the reno turned out. Then again maybe he feels like I do at times and believes if you cant say anything nice dont say anything at all.

Posted by: iluvclintonhill at April 29, 2009 3:50 PM

Our beloved, never miss a photo op boro prez, Marty Markowitz.

Posted by: bxgrl at April 29, 2009 3:51 PM

Noki, Kelly is just amazing, so far gone. BH and I really blew a gasket watching the Bethany/Kelly convo. What was that? She seems deluded and out of touch with her own words! I wish someone would play back the bar scene with Bethany for her so she could see how high she was.

Posted by: cobblehiller at April 29, 2009 3:59 PM

Marty was there, what a douchebag.

Posted by: billyboomer at April 29, 2009 4:02 PM

Simon-st barts or the plastic pool???

Posted by: billyboomer at April 29, 2009 4:05 PM

Billyboomer - It's not an either/or question! We go to/have both. ;-)

Posted by: 99luftballons at April 29, 2009 4:11 PM

Just a thought...It's easier to change the light than repaint the whole room again and again. You can buy daylight bulbs for a blueish tint or warmer yellowish bulbs. It's always a good idea to look at the swatch in various lighting conditions. Not that I ever do....

Posted by: rh at April 29, 2009 4:49 PM

hey rh- but what's the fun in changing the bulb? :-)

Posted by: bxgrl at April 29, 2009 4:53 PM

bxgl- Our color didn't turn pink at all since it veers more to red than pink. I recommend getting those small samples from Benjamin Moore. They are worth extra bucks.

Posted by: jwald at April 29, 2009 5:03 PM

jwald- I know! I'm addicted to them! I'll have to get some more test colors. I like Benjamin Moore paint.

Posted by: bxgrl at April 29, 2009 5:07 PM

Simon, I just want to say that I know what living in a Brownstone undergoing renovation is like. Despite all the comments, I don't think people realize how impressive it is to renovate a Brownstone (even 1 floor) in only 9 weeks, and live there while the work is going on! Congrats to you and Alex for getting it done so quickly! I only wish my mother would hire your contracters on her next renovation!

Posted by: Cobblehillbaby at April 29, 2009 5:28 PM

in support of fsrq, if you watch the show like I do you can completely understand why Alex and Simon bring out such strong feelings of disgust. You don't have to go around "hurting people" to be considered class less tacky pathetic people.

gkw nailed the problem on the head. Watchers of RHW-New York have to listen to the self important van Kempen family go on and on about St. Bart's this, and literature that, and French and good taste and spend spend spend, and then the reveal is this tacky horrible mess of a place no flow. Even Smokey the Architect had to step in and make sure everyone knows he didn't pick the color or furniture, or any of the horrible awfulness inside.

finally, iluvclintonhill and billy are right. A lot of d-list starf*cking going on here, because as a group I have seen you all rip apart less offensive renos than this one without batting a one snarky eye. Suddenly Brownstoner is a lovefest for gross bordello decor. I don't think so. Pretty smart of S&A to rub elbow with the proletariats at the last Stoner gathering knowing they would win some support when this horror show of a house reveal aired.

Their living room looks like a 1980's night club, and the only good thing that can be said about it is that it is a good reflection of the owners.

There I said it.

Posted by: boroughbred at April 29, 2009 6:25 PM

Oh, I know what it's like to live in a place while undergoing renovation! It's been a way of life for me for 15 years.

Bxgrl, more fun that painting! If you disagree, please stop by this weekend. I've got a job for you.

Posted by: rh at April 29, 2009 7:05 PM

I just backspaced and lost my entire post, which was mostly renovation questions. Ugh.

So, kitchen cabinets are bamboo?

Tin ceiling and molding original?

Where are couches and chandeliers from?

Like the choice in entryway with pale floors and rails.

My apartment looks a lot more like Jill's.

There, that is it in nutshell.

Posted by: Heather at April 29, 2009 7:14 PM

Boroughbred,

Well I've got to say that the show has succeeded in bringing out these passionate responses in many viewers - and you're one of them. If all that was shown was just bland people doing bland things there would be no audience and therefore no show. Thanks for watching and ensuring that our ratings are sufficiently high enough to warrant a 3rd season so we can come back & continue to annoy you! ;-)


Heather,

Yes, the kitchen cabinets as well as all the cabinets & flooring in our bedroom are Bamboo.

All ceilings and moldings are original as far as know; we have no reason to believe they were added later.

All furniture in the living & dining rooms is from Maurice Villency and all the fabrics on the sofas & dining chairs is eco-suede, which is made from recycled plastic bottles.

All lighting; sconces, chandeliers and table lamps in the living & dining rooms were bought on the Bowery & were made by http://schonbek.com/

More before, during & after pictures are up on our own website http://www.McCordvanKempen.com

Simon van Kempen

Posted by: 99luftballons at April 30, 2009 11:09 AM

You're right, Simon. The pictures on your blog give a much different impression. Especially of the kitchen and dining room.
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"in support of fsrq, if you watch the show like I do you can completely understand why Alex and Simon bring out such strong feelings of disgust. You don't have to go around "hurting people" to be considered class less tacky pathetic people. "

And that quote is a perfect example- of course how perfectly lovely, kind, caring and intelligent (NOT!)boroughbred and fsrq themselves come off - as well evidenced by their rants. At least, that's the impression I get from reading their posts.

I give you credit, Simon. You've been nothing but gracious and nice in the face of some extremely venal and nasty comments from people who are incredibly stuffy, self-righteous and living in glass houses.

Posted by: bxgrl at April 30, 2009 12:07 PM

Since Simon is now reading this, I have to thank him personally. As much controversy as your show creates, its is highly entertaining. Few people could tolerate the scrutiny you are under everyday. (If this post were about my house, Id be an outright bitch rather than delivery something akin to you your very polite responses) Good for you for being able to take the heat in the kitchen of your own design!

Posted by: Mrs. Limestone at April 30, 2009 1:13 PM

bxgrl & Mrs Limestone

We've had 14 months of reading, & hearing of some really vile things written about us (and our children). Going through a process like this does wonders for one's self esteem. Alex & I are both very happy in ourselves and there is naught that any one, who doesn't know us, can say about us that gets us down.

We have met several people who, based on the show, absolutely hated us and without exception those who've talked to us with an open mind have left with a completely different, and better, impression of us.

Simon van Kempen


Posted by: 99luftballons at April 30, 2009 1:54 PM

Why the switch on the appliances? I remember on the show it was said that you didn't want stainless steel and now the kitchen is full of stainless. Just wondering.

Posted by: mellie at April 30, 2009 6:04 PM

Mellie

In the kitchen all you can really see is the fridge, range & hood in stainless steel. Yes we could have put cabinet doors on the fridge but I couldn't see the point.

Also as I kid I learned the expression to never look a gift horse in the mouth.

Simon van Kempen

Posted by: 99luftballons at April 30, 2009 11:04 PM

Hey, what does anyone think...do have the Van Kempen's being on the show and in the 'hood HELP or HURT my property value? Or no affect whatsoever?

The reno's not THAT bad...I mean, not my taste at all, but not so terrible. And, hey, getting that all done in that time frame is a miracle. (Although, I'm sure if it wasn't being filmed, it wouldn't have been 9 weeks. There's no way it would ever have moved that fast in "real life". (REAL real life).

Posted by: sushi at April 30, 2009 11:39 PM

Sushi,

Although we've been blamed for appearing on a show that is contributing to the decline of Western civilization, your post is the first I've seen conjecturing whether we might be affecting property values too! ;-)

As to the timing - it is true that having to have the parlor level complete for the last of day of filming (Nov 1, 2008), concentrated the minds of EVERYONE working on the job to make that deadline, but who wouldn't want a drop dead finishing date. Having one really made the work drag out less than it would have otherwise and probably knocked three to four weeks of a normal schedule.

Simon van Kempen

Posted by: 99luftballons at May 1, 2009 9:50 AM

Just going through this to answer or respond to specific questions/statements. If I have missed any let me know. ;-)

@ cobblehiller at April 29, 2009 10:39 AM

We didn't have a sit down per se but we did refuse, this season, to do anything that wasn't real to us, unlike we did, on occasion, last season. Like everything, you live & learn and we certainly did from Season 1.

The comment about the 15th choice school was an exaggeration and at the time it was made our eldest son wasn't even attending that school. Despite being zoned for it he was wait listed and was attending another neighborhood school. Of course, by the time that scene aired he had changed schools and everyone's reaction was that it was a slight against his current school. Not sure that makes it any better but it is the truth.

@ Posted by: Architerrorist at April 29, 2009 10:44 AM

It definitely was on the wishlist. When we sold our Co-op in PS (which was zoned for PS321) and moved to Cobble Hill we absolutely were aware of the school zoning of the houses in which we were interested. Due to the current economy there are many NYC parents who wish they'd now paid more attention to school zones when they bought.

@ Posted by: sbuffon at April 29, 2009 11:19 AM

Last I checked our youngest son Johan doesn't have a French name. Both our sons were named in honor of my Father who died when I was just 5 years old. He was Dutch and his name was Francois Johan Walter van Kempen.

@ Posted by: Carol Gardens at April 29, 2009 12:23 PM

Thanks for your comment about sticking up for Brooklyn. A lot of people outside NYC and let's face it a lot of Manhattanites too, have this warped view that NYC=Manhattan. We certainly have been able to spread the word across the country about Brooklyn & are not ashamed in the least to live here. We moved from Manhattan in 2001, first to Park Slope & in 2005 to Cobble Hill and can never see us moving back to Manhattan. Those that don't know these areas have no idea how villagy they really are yet only a very short distance to Manhattan.

Oh & btw this thread didn't out me as 99LuftBalloons, I did that a month or two ago when Alex & I attended the last B'stoner gathering on Atlantic Ave.

@ Posted by: Ringo at April 29, 2009 12:41 PM

Opening the house up to local blogger scrutiny is nothing compared to the close to 2m people who watched this weeks episode! ;-)

Not sure why you'd think we about to sell our house. We're not and if we were why would we have decorated in such an individual style?

You're 'somewhat reliable source' is very wrong. We own the entire house and have done so since June 2005. NYC finance and property records are there for all to see and I have laughed several times at the misinformation posted by those who have looked at those sites and got it completely wrong and then posted their incorrect reading of those sites as 'fact'.

And lastly maybe we should host the next Brownstoner gathering at our house for you all to see it in person as there seems to be incredible interest it in and us!

Simon van Kempen

Posted by: 99luftballons at May 1, 2009 11:35 AM

I do have to admire these two people since they knew beforehand that they would get plenty of rude comments about the colors and decorations. What was so bad? I don't know what was so bad that if I moved in after you, all I would have to do is change the lighting fixtures and repaint the walls and the place will look different. I am not sure I would be comfortable with red walls and AC/w his snake, but I also think I would go crazy in Jills house with all the gaudyness too...so, to each his own`I always say!! I live in my house and you live in yours and we shall meet for drinks at the corner.

Posted by: misslada at May 3, 2009 8:51 PM

I wish i could have finished in 9 weeks. Not a chance. Kudos to you Simon. I have to say, we did a reno which finished Oct '08 (7 mo.)and we are certainly glad it is over and wish we had an "absolute" deadline. what kind of contingency did you have? did you promise some sort of marketing deal? I am curious. I certainly would have. It dog eat dog in the reno business.

Posted by: salvpar at May 4, 2009 3:32 PM

@ Posted by: salvpar at May 4, 2009 3:32 PM

what kind of contingency did you have? - None.

However given a choice of having 2m+ people see your finished work versus having them see your house unfinished because deadlines were missed is a pretty powerful incentive.

Our main contractor, The Pinnacle Group ( see http://www.brownstoner.com/forum/archives/2009/04/alex_and_simons.php ) worked wonders.

The risk they took was that they had to rely on all my other contractors to do their work as well as delivery of everything I ordered; kitchen cabinets, appliances, steel doors & windows, furniture, light fittings etc etc.

It truly was a team effort but having a drop dead date when TV cameras were involved made us all concentrate on that date. It was exhausting but we made it.

Mind you I would rather have an exhausting 9 weeks than a drawn out nine months.

Simon van Kempen

Posted by: 99luftballons at May 4, 2009 5:22 PM

So now that you have been living in your home for 6 months or so since the reno, what changes have you made? Is it still red on red on red? Is the deck complete? What's going on with the blow up pool :) Its almost summertime.

Posted by: mellie at May 5, 2009 12:46 AM

So now that you have been living in your home for 6 months or so since the reno, what changes have you made? Is it still red on red on red? Is the deck complete? What's going on with the blow up pool :) Its almost summertime.

Posted by: mellie at May 5, 2009 12:46 AM

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