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Today's FGVOTD comes to us from the band whom the Beatles tried to imitate but could never duplicate (that's a joke, folks). But there is no question this band was a lot of fun.
In this clip, not only can one see why Davy Jones, through his smooth dancing moves, was a teenage heartthrob; one can also appreciate why he has been hailed as a genius with the tambourine. Nobody played the instrument so perfectly from a technical standpoint, but he put more sole into it than Linda McCartney, Stevie Nicks and all Davy's followers ever could.
This video is also meant to make it up to jessibaby, whose FGVOTD was cut short yesterday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfuBREMXxts
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 9:18 AM
/ [Opens door & peeks inside]
"Is it safe to enter?" speaks the Asshat from the ghetto.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 9:19 AM
Come on in, everybody.
The water's warm.
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 9:20 AM
"safe to enter?" - depends if you got the right protection or how much risk you're willing to take
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 9:22 AM
I loaded up on Open Thread Default Swaps yesterday and now I'm gonna have to sell them at a huge loss.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 9:24 AM
good morning everyone,
fellow wanna be Asshat here. Can I come in too?
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 9:25 AM
DIBS, hold onto those swaps. The contagen(s) could strike again
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 9:27 AM
i know it's terrible, but have you ever wanted to see a business close so badly that it hurts you in your joints!?! there is this store around the corner from me on spring street in soho called Pylones.. back in like 2002 they took over a former salvation army. i LOVED that salvation army cuz id go on my lunch break everyday and find the best stuff!!! thrifts can be hit or miss, but if you hit one everyday and you get in good with the people behind the counter you get some great stuff! and i was, for like a whole year and a half or so until this stupid store took over. what do they sell? stupid things that no one wants. 200 dollar lime green spoon sets with frogs on them. cheese graters in the shape of princesses. ridiculously over priced mood rings that don't work! i mean seriously. that store is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO going down and i can't wait.
Dipster, you work on the same block. chant with me.
Goodbye Pylones
Goodbye Pylones
Goodbye Pylones! woo woo
i hope all these idiotic stores that sprouted up like syphillis during the boom times all do down in flames like they should.
(of course that would mean 3/4's of 5th avenue in park slope lol but oh well)
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 9:30 AM
m4l, I've applied for TARP (Total Asshat Retard Protection). Whatever stupid trades I make will be covered by the taxpayer.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 9:31 AM
So there is a beautiful row of limestones around the corner from me and all were occupied until one day last week I passed by and one is completely gutted all the way to the beams. Walls and windows are gone and roof has a few holes in it. It seemed pretty strange to me because I didn't notice anyone actually gutting it. When I appoached the door, there are a few notices glued with Skeleton picture on them and some text along the lines of "poisoned area". Didn't approach too close so couldn't see.
Can you speculate what it can possibly be so that the whole house neeeded to be stripped while the ones attached to it are completely occupied?
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 9:35 AM
Bed bugs, Kens.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 9:37 AM
i would ignore the "poisoned area" notice. if your intention was to loot some stuff from there for your own renovations you will be fine. i think they only put those up to deter people who want to take stuff.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 9:38 AM
gack! dave could totally be right about the bedbugs thing. please ignore my previous post. do NOT take anything from there!!! hahah. i had a friend with bedbugs and it took him a year to realize wtf it was until i was like dude look at your walls and smashed a bug and blood squirted out. grooooooossss
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 9:41 AM
DIBS there was NOTHING left but brick and beams. Is that really necessary to get rid of bed bugs? I mean then the neighbors must have them but the attached house is occupied and no signs of expermination going on there or anything. Kids play outside most of the day now since the weather is nice.
Rob, there is nothing to loot. There are no FLOORS or STAIRS left!
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 9:41 AM
Thanks Biff for the video, I was singing along.
Yes, I feel bad that Jessi’s FGVOTD was cut short yesterday.
I still can’t believe that you saw her. When you first saw her did you have a big grin on your face and where you thinking this woman IS real....Oooooh, I want to meet now.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 9:41 AM
The poison notice was probably because they spread some rodenticide. Your question about the total gut though is certainly interesting.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 9:41 AM
What did you all do yesterday that caused the wipe of the ot? Can you tell me without getting this one wiped too?
Posted by: Heather at April 30, 2009 9:42 AM
So yesterdays open thread got SO bad that Stoner had to pull it?
Seriously?
I'm amazed.
Posted by: Prodigal_Son at April 30, 2009 9:43 AM
"if your intention was to loot some stuff from there for your own renovations you will be fine."
East New York is going to have a field day with this one...
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 9:44 AM
what does this stand for? oo====) "FGVOTD" ?
also dipster and snappy if you wanna do the 40s thing i was thinking about having a get together on my roof tomorrow night. it's definitely BYO40s! if tomorrow is bad i think im going to the flea on saturday unless it rains, tho rain doesnt bother me much (does the flea still go on tho if it's rainey?)
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 9:45 AM
I'll try to take a picture of it so you can see what I am talking about. I mean, besides the front door and the actual house shell, nothing is left. I found it very strange myself since I have never seen anything like that. I've seen abandoned shells but nothing like that since the house was in pretty good condition beforehand and a family/families lived in it for years and in practically one day, completely gutted.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 9:45 AM
Haha Rob - Pylones is a pretty stupid ass store, but not as stupid at that FROG cafe right next to it.
Whenever I worked late (when it was open) they had this fake velvet rope thing going on yet the place was open.
Come to think of it - everything on Spring btw Broadway and Lafayette is pretty freakin lame - that cooking store, the sneaker boutique, the Moma Store, etc.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 30, 2009 9:47 AM
oooo, Maybe some kind of a freaky real life CSI thing happened there? I am going by there today to take down the exact address and google it.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 9:48 AM
m4l, do you work in finance???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 9:51 AM
Tomorrow works better for me too Rob - I have a kinda sorta date tonight hahah
Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 30, 2009 9:52 AM
Okay serious question.
We haven’t had my car washed all winter. The antenna is stuck in the upright position and until hubby can figure out how to bring it down we can’t take it through a car wash. However I’d like to clean the inside.
Does anyone know a place along 3rd or 4th Avenues (between Bay Ridge and Park Slope) that has one of those coin operated super vacuums?
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 9:52 AM
DIBS, yeah - am a bean counter. SAT english scores too low to get into marketing
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 9:54 AM
BRG, this is closer to you than park slope. Avenue C and coney Island has a gas station and it the back, there are coin vacuums that you are looking for.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 9:54 AM
Rob, "FGVOTD" = Feel Good Video of the Day.
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 9:55 AM
quote:
Haha Rob - Pylones is a pretty stupid ass store, but not as stupid at that FROG cafe right next to it.
ALOL did you see their whole front window got busted in the other morning? yeah really that place sucks. overpriced crap and it's always EMPTY. no one wants to eat there on their lunch hour.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 9:55 AM
LOL...I remember that from yesterday, m4l. Were you born in the US??
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 9:55 AM
I think I have been placed on the "bad commenter" list where my posts need to be approved before showing up. Is this because I got worked up about the car chase comments? I wouldn't have expected to end up in time out. Oh my.
Posted by: lechacal at April 30, 2009 9:55 AM
"The antenna is stuck in the upright position and until hubby can figure out how to bring it down"
If the antenna is stuck in the upright position for more than 4 hours, please seek medical attention.
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 9:56 AM
It sounds like the gut rehab they did on the house next door to me a few years ago. They stripped out everything, replaced all the crossbeams and roof- everything. It could be there was a lot of hidden damage, or the foundation was really bad or someone bought it and wanted a totally clean slate to work with. It was awful to see the wood detailing rippped up and in the dumpster.
Posted by: bxgrl at April 30, 2009 9:56 AM
quote:
Tomorrow works better for me too Rob - I have a kinda sorta date tonight hahah
damn that jessi sure gets around!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 9:57 AM
DIBS, Immigrant. Still trying to determine I'm alterego of whom?
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 9:59 AM
rob- there's a big Salvation Army on Atlantic Ave., close to 3rd. Try there.. I haven't gone in but it looks interesting from the window whenever I pass by.
Posted by: bxgrl at April 30, 2009 10:00 AM
No, m4l, I don't think you're a different poster's alterego.
Immigrant! Eurotrash??? :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 10:00 AM
don't worry lechacal- i've been on and off that list many times...
Posted by: randolph at April 30, 2009 10:01 AM
"damn that jessi sure gets around!"
haha no - someone i already know way better than her ;)
seriously though - what the hell do they sell in pylones? it's all stuff that serves no purpose and its $20+
Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 30, 2009 10:03 AM
oooooooooh thanks bxgirl! :) i will check that out! everyone says to go to beacon's closet but i went there once and wound up with a stupid sweater that just well looked stupid. i dont like stores like that anyway that raid the real thrift stores like goodwill and salvation army and then jackup the prices and sell with a snooty 'tude. (tho i didnt get a snooty tude from beacon's closet, but almost every other "thrift" and i use that term lightly store ive been to i have gotten that.) plus the money goes to good causes when you buy from salvation army and goodwill instead of going up some 25 year old girl's nose if you know what i mean.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 10:04 AM
Thanks Kens...but I'd rather a place in the direction of Downtown; as I'm heading down in that direction later this evening and can do it along the way.
Anyone else know of a place.....maybe a gas station with a vacuum?
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 10:04 AM
DH and rob...those kind of stores were all the rage during the Japanese bubble years. We're already seeing a lot of restaurants close and these won't be far behind.
This flu thing is going to push some hotels and maybe the airlines closer to bankruptcy. The airlines seemed to get their businesses in order and then this pops up and they are cancelling a lot of flights now. It's VERY serious.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 10:06 AM
BRG, that is the best excuse I have ever heard for not washing a car
Posted by: the chicken at April 30, 2009 10:06 AM
dipster we should meet at lunch to go into Pylones and accidently knock stuff over. seriously they sell crap crap crap that no one could need. it's an overpriced novelty shop. i bought a gift for someone there once. a little herb garden. sh|t never grew! grrrr
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 10:07 AM
BRG - Try Hess on 4th avenue and Union Street in Park Slope - they have the vaccums
also there is a gas station (I think Hess or Mobile) on 4th avenue and like 30th street that has vaccums as well
you really should get it washed on the outside though - go to one of the car washes that is HANDS only - there are a few in BK - just need to think where...
Posted by: gemini10 at April 30, 2009 10:07 AM
Rob - there's a Salvation Army on Bedford Ave! haha know how much you like the L train!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 30, 2009 10:07 AM
Poor Heather...no one is going to answer her question about what happened to yesterday's OT.
Sorry Heather, while I know what happened, I'm not going to do it. I don't want to risk anything.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 10:07 AM
Shall we just say that there was a very bad troll and leave it at that?
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 10:08 AM
omg if anyone here has a car and going to a carwash and knows of a carwash that is not hands on, the one where you go thru and it's like walking through willy wonka land? i used to LOVE that as a kid. i would insist on being the only one in the car as it goes thru the machine ahhahaha. it would terrify and excite me at the same time!!!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 10:09 AM
The Hess on 4th (near DeGraw?) has coin-op. Have you tried spraying WD-40 on the antenna?
Posted by: Arkady at April 30, 2009 10:10 AM
"m4l, do you work in finance???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 9:51 AM"
You'll probably find that he works on the same floor as you as well....
Posted by: the chicken at April 30, 2009 10:10 AM
Good morning to my fellow asshats, Glad to see you all here in the OT lounge.
Snappy & BRG [I think you're going to like this, it's partly inspired by 'your' shoes!]:
I had a thought about the name for our bar/lounge. It needed 'something'.
Heathens, Hooligans, and Harlots
Yes, no?
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 10:11 AM
Morning Asshats! BRG, I'll be on my way to C21 in about an hour....oooh la la!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 10:11 AM
Is the antenna electrically operated?? If not just use some WD40 or whatever lube you may have handy.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 10:11 AM
WD40 cures all :) Everyone should keep a can on hand.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 10:12 AM
heather:
i was following OT for the most part and i dont really know what happened or what set mr. b off. it may have been the troll that people are talking about here, but who knows. maybe i missed some of the comments right before the thread was deleted. it doesnt matter though. if that poster posts im pretty sure everyone will just ignore it.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 10:12 AM
"Heathens, Hooligans, and Harlots"
I like it!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 10:13 AM
DIBS, no more clues. All will be confirmed at the next gathering.
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 10:13 AM
THANKS Gemeni!! Will try those along 4th. I knew there had to be a place along 4th.
I would like to get the car washed, but I can’t go through a wash with the antenna up. If anyone can think of a place that’s hands on and not so far out of the way, I’ll go there.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 10:14 AM
Our banner ad for the place should have Heathens and Hooligans in a fun-type font and Harlots should be in a sexy font with an image of a clear heel with a goldfish in it!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 10:15 AM
BRG, come to the corner of 5th ave and 1st street ill wash your car!!! (in a thong!)
lol
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 10:16 AM
Car Wash....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXaI-xsyYTQ
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 10:16 AM
Hey - I'm unemployed...I'll wash the car for $50 :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 10:16 AM
I think that's a perfect name for a bar!
Triple H
Posted by: gemini10 at April 30, 2009 10:17 AM
Clear heels, without a doubt!
Glad you like it Snappy, of course we can noodle around with the order if anyone has any suggestions or flashes of inspiration. We need to start drafting our business plan/model. M4L apparently is somewhat 'less than enthused' by our 'management'. Although what credentials he has to pass such judgments have yet to be seen, I suggest we ignore, and move forward!
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 10:18 AM
Triple H Ranch
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 10:18 AM
heather- I think it was one particular poster who starting throwing out really offensive words relating to people's life choices. Not that we don't toss around a lot of bad words and insults but racial, ethnic and gender slurs cross a line. In fact I'll take bets on that being the reason.
Posted by: bxgrl at April 30, 2009 10:19 AM
Good, no, Gem?!
Hmm, yes, and there will be many options for the logo/art work/marketing materials.
I think I might reserve the domain name now.
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 10:20 AM
M4L can't comment on our venture...besides...his wife would bust him upside the head if he even came to our establishment!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 10:20 AM
haha snappy!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 30, 2009 10:20 AM
LOL snappy i offered a second before you did! omg we should totally wash cars in the TD parking lot at the corner of 5th and 1st!!!! no one would say anything. (i dont think) we could tell them we are doing it for the boys and girls club or something. im pretty sure there's a workable hose faucet there too. :)
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 10:20 AM
Rob, most of the car washes in London are drive-thru. They are cheap but they don't do a very good job and I would never put a nice car through it.
I can just imagine you as a tourist over here, jumping in a taxi and asking the driver to take you to the nearest car wash!
Posted by: the chicken at April 30, 2009 10:21 AM
Do any of you future barkeeps have a budget for opening this business???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 10:21 AM
MM can design the waitress costumes and I'll do the banners and graphics for the menus. I have about a 1000 fonts- heck, I could do every letter in a different font. I don't want to go too tasteful on this, ya know.
Posted by: bxgrl at April 30, 2009 10:21 AM
“Is the antenna electrically operated??”
Not sure if it’s operated by electric or gas? ;-)
But when you turned on the radio the antenna would go up, when you turned it off it would go down....It’s up and stuck....been stuck since winter.
We thought it froze in the winter because of ice but now that the weather is warmer we thought it would move.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 10:22 AM
CH, dont doubt if you can do but rather if it'll be "juicy" enough (profit wise) to keep doing it. I believe you & snappy way over qualified to be interested in running it unless the bar is a money press.
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 10:22 AM
"Triple H Ranch"
Fab DIBS, you know, there is a place called Home Spa over here, and they have a place in Costa Rica. Perhaps we/the bar...have a 3 H place in Wyoming? Why not, tie-ins are endless.
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 10:22 AM
"Do any of you future barkeeps have a budget for opening this business???"
It will all be spelled out in our business plan/model presentation DIBS. Hang on to your hat. We're getting there.
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 10:23 AM
"WD40 cures all :) Everyone should keep a can on hand.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 10:12 AM"
Snappy, WD40 is truly the miracle-lube of our time. I even have a backup can on hand in case my main can runs out.
Posted by: the chicken at April 30, 2009 10:24 AM
Rob...you make some sings and I'll bring buckets, soap and sponges! We'll make a killing!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 10:25 AM
"We thought it froze in the winter because of ice but now that the weather is warmer we thought it would move.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 10:22 AM"
If it was working before winter but isn't now then it is either due to poor electrical connection or the aeriel itself has rusted - both can be cured by WD40
Posted by: the chicken at April 30, 2009 10:26 AM
I have a can in my nightstand.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 10:26 AM
Dave, you will determine our budget, being our primary financial backer and all :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 10:26 AM
Rob, I will pay you to NOT wash cars in a thong (shudder)
Posted by: the chicken at April 30, 2009 10:27 AM
"I have a can in my nightstand."
Oh dear g*d, I knew that one was coming.
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 10:27 AM
Uhm, Snappy. Uhm, I just told them that we were working on our budget!
Ix-nay on sking-ay IBS-Day!
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 10:29 AM
Ooops! Sorry cobble. I'll zip my lips! zzzzzzz
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 10:32 AM
I can email you a spreadsheet when you sit down to work the numbers
ETSON.....Bloomberg has a function now to track the flu cases... ALLX H1N1
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 10:32 AM
But Chicken, PS is full of gays...the sight of a gay man in a thong washing cars may pull in more $$$! Think, man, think!!!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 10:33 AM
"I have a can in my nightstand."
"Oh dear g*d, I knew that one was coming."
No re-write required!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 10:35 AM
Most people who wear thongs ought not to. Canadians on our beaches in particular come to mind
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 10:36 AM
lol snappy, not ME in a thong tho. tho if someone can spot me a Hello Kitty bikini...
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 10:36 AM
"If it was working before winter but isn't now then it is either due to poor electrical connection or the aeriel itself has rusted - both can be cured by WD40"
Okay Chicken...I'm going to try it.
So do I just squirt the lubricant in the hole where the antenna goes into?
It won't affect the electrical wiring?
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 10:38 AM
I was teased not too long ago about my gaucho pants so I guess I can't say anything about folks wearing things they shouldnt! LOL. By the way, where is THL lately?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 10:39 AM
Rob, go buy a thong and I'll bring you some of my Hello Kitty Bandaids to affix to it.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 10:41 AM
Ah, okay. Not that interesting. This flu thing is driving me slowly insane. I'm not sure if I feel sick or if the box of wine I drank last night to allay my fears about the zombie apocalypse is making me hungover.
And Noggin is NOT helping.
Posted by: Heather at April 30, 2009 10:41 AM
Here you go rob...see you at the car wash!
http://www.hellokittyuniverse.com/page/Hello+Kitty+Thongs?t=anon
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 10:42 AM
A day too late, but....6years, you asked about the Ocean Hill/Brownsville situation yesterday. I'm afraid I can't help you on that one. I didn't grow up in NYC, and only heard about it after moving to NY. I only know generalities, no more that what you'd read on line. My Mom taught in public school upstate, where we lived, but then only taught in Catholic schools when we returned to the city, so I never got any info from her on the subject, either. Sorry.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at April 30, 2009 10:45 AM
hey all, Just checked in. DIBS - not been following the flu all that closely. Now maybe if I knew a lot of Mexican folks...
Rob & Snappy - My (old and dinged up) car needs washing - maybe I'll stop by on Saturday.
Posted by: etson at April 30, 2009 10:46 AM
Canadians have always worn inappropiate beach wear. Wildwood was more like a jungle with all the tarzans running/gasping about. They also have a penchant for lots of decals-stick ons for their autos.
Posted by: DeLepp at April 30, 2009 10:46 AM
Sounds like you have the wine flu heather.
nothing a little bed rest and gatorade wont cure
Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 30, 2009 10:46 AM
LOL Heather!!! You drank the whole box of wine?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 10:47 AM
BRG, I don't think it will ruin the wiring or shortcircuit or anything. Just spray it in the hole (boy that sounds sooo wrong on so many different levels).
If that doesn't work, it might be that the little motor just burned out and needs to be replaced.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 10:47 AM
Did anyone else notice a post got pulled from the Forum?
I was just checking in on a post from someone about their FSBO coop in Park Slope and noticed the whole post is gone.
anyone know why?
Posted by: gemini10 at April 30, 2009 10:48 AM
Etson, I'm on it!!! For you, the price is a mere $40 (tire whitewalls are extra)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 10:48 AM
"BRG, I'll be on my way to C21 in about an hour....oooh la la!"
Snappy, I was going to go today also (I need to return something)....I can come pick you up, we can vacuum the car (wear a thong please) and head over there to Century.
Forget taking the bus...you can ride in styyyle - okay the jalopy is a 10yr old caddy, but hey you don't have to deal with coughing people on the bus!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 10:49 AM
It is the motor. Spraying it with WD40 isn't going to get the motor started. Wash the car by hand...you know, a hand job. That shouldn't be difficult.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 10:49 AM
Gem, things just disappear at random here. It's something we all just have to adapt to in this changing economy!
; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 10:51 AM
WD-40 will even kill bed bugs.
Posted by: Legion at April 30, 2009 10:51 AM
BRG...a 10 year old Caddy is fine with me...My papa drives one! Actually, his isn't quite 10 years old yet, but getting there! Are you an old black man in disguise??? LOL
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 10:51 AM
Gemini...I don't think Mr. B. allows those types of ads on the forum.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 10:52 AM
It was one of those fancy boxes, not like a gallon, Snappy. But yes, it seems that I did.
Posted by: Heather at April 30, 2009 10:52 AM
i love the fact that heather freely admits that she drinks a box of wine a night. :)
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 10:53 AM
btw Snappy...I just emailed you about something else. Hope you don't mind I included you on that email list.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 10:53 AM
Mrs. Champion and I went dancing last night.
http://tinyurl.com/dmjh3p
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 10:54 AM
Snappy...did you get the pics I emailed you yesterday?????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 10:55 AM
quote:
"fancy boxes"
youre killing me today! ugh now im craving an organic gourmet OE 40 ounce
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 10:56 AM
Is Mrs. Champion's name "Muffy?"
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 10:56 AM
BRG, I think there's a detailing & wash your own car wash at the corner of Smith & 9th Sts. (in the back of the lot where all the Budget trucks are parked). Called something like Hamilton Car Care; have driven past many times, have never used it. Probably has super-vacs, too. Otherwise, for vacs, think someone already recommended the Hess at 4th & Union.
6years, a friend is working on a reunion/conference of students, teachers and others who helped organize alternate schools throughout the city as a result of the OH-B teacher's strike. If interested, drop a line to hsfreepress40 at gmail.
Posted by: vinca at April 30, 2009 10:57 AM
What pics? I haven't gotten any emails...
Are you sending it to Snappy3434@aol.com?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 10:58 AM
"Okay Chicken...I'm going to try it.
So do I just squirt the lubricant in the hole where the antenna goes into?
It won't affect the electrical wiring?
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 10:38 AM"
no, it won't hurt the wiring but you need to squirt it along the shaft (re-write away folks). The aeriel is a series of concentric pipes that are chrome-plated. If the chrome has come away at any point then it will rust in place - that's what you need to get rid off.
I suggested spraying WD40 first because that is the easiest thing to do although it is more likely to be either a burnt out motor or poor connection.
You can tell if the motor is gone by testing it with a 12V battery (the square one with the two buttons on top) and a couple of wires. Wrap the wires around the buttons on the battery and then touch the positive to the positive on the motor (it's attached to the aeriel under the wing) and the negative to an earthing point (anywhere with bare metal on the car). If the motor whirs then it's good.
Posted by: the chicken at April 30, 2009 10:59 AM
Sorry...haven't checked that one in a while...let me catch up on all the mails in that box...
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 10:59 AM
that's where i sent them snappy...check your spam folder
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 11:00 AM
BRG...check the fuse box first
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 11:01 AM
chicken...we call ia a grounding point here, not an earthing point. Our fuses would be your "mains."
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 11:02 AM
The motor is likely unaccessible. It's probably enclosed somewhere deep in the fender.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 11:05 AM
Snappy, I sent you cat pics and one of the Mexican bf.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 11:07 AM
Ok...I'm caught up now...there were 29 emails in there! I was soooo behind! Got all the pics and the conversations that went on. Love those cats!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 11:11 AM
Heather, that sounds better! I was picturing you with one of those big @ss boxes and a straw hiccuping like crazy! LOL
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 11:12 AM
Chicken that’s too much for me...I'm not car savvy. I barely know where the hazards are. I’m just going to go vacuum the car and let hubby deal with the antenna.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 11:16 AM
BRG, before I head down to C21 and get mad, do you know if they still stock the vinyl mattress covers? They used to sell the queen size for about 8 bucks. Target has em for $20 but I don't wanna pay that much. I also don't wanna go down to C21 if they no longer sell em. Any idea?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 11:17 AM
Not every night, geez. Do they sell organic 40's at the fauxdega, Rob?
Posted by: Heather at April 30, 2009 11:18 AM
yoo-hoo - Buyers!
are any of you buyers out there seriously looking for houses? And if so are you capable of buying a house?
sorry - am frustated with my house situation - I feel like we have had loads of interest and second showings, but this one buyer who we are almost about to go into contract with keeps running into issues with their bank(despite them putting down a large downpayment)
maybe I should post a question on the forum - am just wondering if buyers are coming up against issues in regards to obtaining a mortgage....
Posted by: gemini10 at April 30, 2009 11:19 AM
"The motor is likely unaccessible. It's probably enclosed somewhere deep in the fender.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 11:05 AM"
I've never seen an inaccesible aerial motor?
If all else fails, replace the aerial with a wire coat hanger...
Posted by: the chicken at April 30, 2009 11:22 AM
Gemini, I'd love to buy your house, but unless you are willing to accept random cds and cat photos as payment, I can't help you :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 11:22 AM
"BRG.....do you know if they still stock the vinyl mattress covers?"
HEY!!!! Is this a jab at me? What are you saying here?!?!?! :-)
Seriously, I don't know....I don't use vinyl mattress covers (I know that's shocking!)
I can come pick you up and it won't be a waste of your time. We can have lunch at Kareem around the corner...chicken kabob sandwich, my treat!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 11:24 AM
"yoo-hoo - Buyers!
are any of you buyers out there seriously looking for houses? And if so are you capable of buying a house?"
I was looking for a starter apt somewhere - i'm frustrated though and might just buy a cheap vacation property somewhere.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 30, 2009 11:25 AM
Not for that reason, BRG!!! It helps with my allergies. If dust mites cant get to the mattress, I sneeze less in bed. Where is Kareem?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 11:28 AM
Snappy, come to the C21 in Manhattan and we'll shop and schmooze! Actually, I can't do that...I'm even having a hard time being able to meet Mrs. Champion for lunch these days. Darn Death Star! :-(
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 11:32 AM
Anybody work in midtown want to get lunch sometime?? I'm at 46th & Lex
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 11:34 AM
C21 in Manhattan is horrible! Its a swap meet in there! The stuff is always all over the floor and people actually rip stuff. I can't go in there without losing my marbles. The BK on is much nicer. And they seem to have a better selection for housewares too.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 11:35 AM
Dave, if you're treating I'll travel :) J/k
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 11:36 AM
Anytime, Snappy. And no need for these furtive bridge meetings, either.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 11:38 AM
DIBS, are you ever downtown around lunchtime?
We could try to meet.
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 11:38 AM
DIBS, I worked right around that area for years! We could have met up easily. Then again, it was before I moved to Brooklyn and before I went on this blog and before I met all you PLUSAs (Pathetic Loser Usual Suspect Asshats).
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 11:41 AM
Never really get downtown, Biff. But we could organize one sometime as the weather gets nice. I think Harry's on Hanover still has Dover Sole on Tuesday!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 11:42 AM
"if your intention was to loot some stuff from there for your own renovations you will be fine."
Actually, I thought that was pretty funny.
Posted by: East New York at April 30, 2009 11:42 AM
I would totally be up for grabbing lunch in midtown one day with fellow posters (Fridays tend to be best - tomorrow not great tho).
Posted by: etson at April 30, 2009 11:42 AM
If I really loved you it would be La Grenouille. I spit on Per Se. :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 11:43 AM
DIBS, let me know. I just need advance warning since, contrary to popular belief, it can actually get quite busy here at the Death Star.
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 11:43 AM
What are furtive bridge meetings?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 11:44 AM
Ugh! - snappy - yeah cat photos really aren't enough for payment
DH - good luck - but as you can see you can find a studio in PS for $230K
Think I will post on the forum
Posted by: gemini10 at April 30, 2009 11:44 AM
Isn't that where Biff met jessi, on the bridge???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 11:45 AM
"Per Se, all the way!"
For free lunch in Per Se, I'll definitely travel! I am in Chelsea. Area is great but no one seems to work here!
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 11:45 AM
The lunch @ JG is actually a great deal. ;)
Never made it to Per Se - cancelled my rez i had since they opened up the salon to al a carte dining!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 30, 2009 11:45 AM
Ooh, I love Harry's on Hanover! Can I come too! I used to work very close by.
[Mattress cover! Brilliant Snappy. I'm thinking new pillows & covers over here myself. The allergy thing is out of control for BH and me. Also scrubbing entire apt. over this past week.]
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 11:46 AM
"Where is Kareem?"
4th Ave btwn 85th & 86th Street (east side)...don't get a platter, it's overpriced...get a sandwich. D E L I C I O U S!!!!!!
I'm up for lunch....just don't make a nooner, thank you very much!!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 11:48 AM
April 30 (Bloomberg) -- Half a glass of wine a day may add
five years to your life, a new study suggests. Drink beer, and you’ll live only 2 1/2 years longer.
Dutch researchers followed 1,373 men for more than four
decades, noting their eating and drinking habits. Men who had about 20 grams of alcohol daily -- equivalent to a half a glass of wine -- had 2 1/2 years added to their life expectancy at age 50, compared with men who didn’t drink at all, according to the research published today in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health. Men who consumed only wine had twice as much added longevity.
Light alcohol intake was linked to lower cardiovascular, cerebrovascular and overall mortality in the study. Researchers had known that moderate drinking is tied to a lower risk of heart disease, possibly because of an increase in high density lipoprotein or so-called good cholesterol as well as a reduction in platelet clumping, making it more unlikely for clots to form. It is the first study to show that one kind of alcohol is superior to others in prolonging life, the researchers said.
“In this study, 70 percent of all wine consumed was red
wine,” the researchers, led by Marinette Streppel of the
University of Wageningen in the Netherlands, said in the paper. “This suggests that the cardioprotective effect of wine could be due to a protective effect of polyphenol compounds in red wine, but other explanations cannot be ruled out.”
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 11:49 AM
man, terrible day at work. good co-workers are walked out the door and the lazy do-nothings still around. Rob, if you don't mind - GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 11:50 AM
M4L, that just happened today? Are you still ok?
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 11:52 AM
BRG, email me.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 11:52 AM
m4l...you mean they just walked out to go to another firm???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 11:54 AM
"BRG, email me."
I emailed you about something else...did you get that email?
I'm pretty sure I have the right email address.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 11:55 AM
Oh, wait...I cant do it today.,...just got an emergency call...let me get back to you
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 30, 2009 11:55 AM
yeah, today. Thought I might be the list. Was told I'm safe via "I'll need you to pick up XXX's job responsibilities cause he's being terminated today". Man was that super bitter sweet news. Glad it wasn't me but pissed why it wasn't other lazy do-nothings that're still strolling the hallways
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 11:57 AM
M4l - are you guys having layoffs?
Posted by: gemini10 at April 30, 2009 11:58 AM
DIBS, forced terminations. not voluntary resignations.
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 11:59 AM
Yes, m4l. that kind of news is always bittersweet. Why do you think the lazy asses weren't let go???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 12:00 PM
"I'll need you to pick up XXX's job responsibilities cause he's being terminated today"."
In other words, you will have to do more with less. You might want to update your login ID. It's an awful and helpless feeling one gets watching fellow colleagues suddenly being shown the door. I feel your pain.
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 12:02 PM
I wonder if the powers that be ever really comprehend what it does to employees when they are let go? Did they fire them without warning? No notice?
Posted by: bxgrl at April 30, 2009 12:10 PM
econ stinks. no denying. and terminations are understandable & unavoidable. annoyed how lazy do-nothings get to survive all this.
oh well. I got myself a huge lunch to drown out my frustrations.
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 12:16 PM
" Glad it wasn't me but pissed why it wasn't other lazy do-nothings that're still strolling the hallways"
Hold on to your tickets and stay in line..
U.S. March Consumer Spending Fell More Than Forecast (Update1)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a_oglDHVKGyI&refer=home
"Mounting unemployment and falling home values remain challenges for consumers, suggesting the biggest part of the economy may falter again in the second quarter and prolong the recession. Still, low borrowing costs and government stimulus may boost demand in the second half of the year, easing the economic slump."
Oh and to the Jackass named Dave! How is the Quantitative Easing thang going???
The Bond Market said "Fuck This Shit" and the yields did a moonshot yesterday! How in the hell The Fed is going to buy 5 trillion dollars worth of Long Bonds to keep rates down?????
This is a covert action to repay the Chinese and Japanese Bond holders and stick the tax slaves with the loses! Have fun retards, see you in six months...
The What
Someday this war is gonna end....
Posted by: Return of The What at April 30, 2009 12:18 PM
I think just for M4L we should all start fighting with each other so he has some entertainment
ugh - sucks - I understand we go through layoffs about every 6 months and have seen some kick ass people get laid off.
Posted by: gemini10 at April 30, 2009 12:20 PM
"The Bond Market said "Fuck This Shit" and the yields did a moonshot yesterday!"
Did they really?? Where???
And you're two days old on the PCE numbers.
You're losing it What...step up your game.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 12:21 PM
MSCI Global Index is up 11% for the month of April. Your schtick is getting old What. The market is beginning to discount the recovery that will be readily apparent in about 6 months...just when you are predicting doomsday.
Send me your money to invest. Even an idiot like me is beating the market YTD.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 12:27 PM
"Oh, wait...I cant do it today.,...just got an emergency call...let me get back to you"
Translation:
There's now way BRG is gonna get me in that Caddy!
;-)
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 12:28 PM
"A day too late, but....6years, you asked about the Ocean Hill/Brownsville situation yesterday. I'm afraid I can't help you on that one. I didn't grow up in NYC, and only heard about it after moving to NY. I only know generalities, no more that what you'd read on line. My Mom taught in public school upstate, where we lived, but then only taught in Catholic schools when we returned to the city, so I never got any info from her on the subject, either. Sorry."
Thanks Morris! More ammo! Everything that spews from your piehole is a function of story telling and Google and not growing up in Brooklyn! I feel better blasting you on Frankie Crocker and Downtown Brooklyn! Remember???
"The Bond Market said "Fuck This Shit" and the yields did a moonshot yesterday!"
Did they really?? Where???
10 year
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=%5ETNX&t=5d&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=
30 year
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=%5ETYX&t=5d&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=
Keep sucking balls jackass! The equity in Bed Stuy is getting vaporized everyday!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at April 30, 2009 12:33 PM
How much money am I losing in the ghetto everyday, What??? Is there a spreadsheet that I can use to keep up???
Am I losing more money than my neighbor folk because I'm an Asshat???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 12:37 PM
What, this is not the time for you to prick the annoyed grizzly. that keybd wont be enough to help U.
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 12:37 PM
"MSCI Global Index is up 11% for the month of April. Your schtick is getting old What. The market is beginning to discount the recovery that will be readily apparent in about 6 months...just when you are predicting doomsday."
Put you money where your mouth is! Six months from now will be a NIGHTMARE for equity markets around the world! You see Jackass people loaning money to retards will start to price RISK! They want more money for MORE RISK!!!! Rates are going UP JACKASS!!!
"Send me your money to invest. Even an idiot like me is beating the market YTD."
So why don't you live in Park Slope then??? All the Hotshots live in the slope hell, I live in Asshat Hill! You are a poser Dave, a fraud and a nut hugger...
See ya in six...
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at April 30, 2009 12:38 PM
Are you referring to me. m4l? I'm not annoyed and I definitely don't want to be categorized with the bears!!! :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 12:44 PM
Another day, another marginally intelligible , certifiably piece of drek from the What. It is so obvious that being born and raised in Brooklyn has done nothing for his personality, his intelligence or his education.
Montrose, on the other hand, is a prime example of who a true Brooklynite is. That's what pisses you off, What. You're so far beneath her and it just kills you. It bugs you so much you can't even think logically, let alone like a sentient human being (and in your case I use the words "sentient human being" loosely- but at least I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt.)
Posted by: bxgrl at April 30, 2009 12:46 PM
I don't live in Park Slope because I didn't want to spend that kind of money with the three other residences. Besides, I'm going to make more money on this property from a lower base. I'm sure even you can understand that.
Come by and we'll do lunch and talk about your portfolio. I'll teach you how you too can accumulate enough money to have three vacation properties and a garage full of cars.
Lunch will be on me, btw.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 12:48 PM
What, get a life, willya? I have NEVER claimed to have grown up in Brooklyn, and defy you to find where I have. I've lived here for over 25 years, so I'm as much a Brooklynite as the next person.
You can feel better about anything you want. I don't find your judgements of me to be all that memorable or important, I'm not keeping track of them. Please go spew somewhere else.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at April 30, 2009 12:49 PM
What PWNED X 3.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 12:49 PM
"Montrose, on the other hand, is a prime example of who a true Brooklynite is. "
No Bxgrl I tired of people re-writing history and changing history. Like for example:
Nicolaus Copernicus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_Copernicus
Nicolaus Copernicus (19 February 1473 – 24 May 1543) was the first astronomer to formulate a comprehensive heliocentric cosmology, which displaced the Earth from the center of the universe.[1]
This is European Mind-Fuck Bullshit! The Egyptians developed astrology thousands of years before Copernicus was born! But they teach this bullshit to kids everyday! Just like the retards moving in and re-writing the history of brooklyn! I noticed that 80% of the people on Brownstoner was not born and raise in Brooklyn but have a fucking opinion on everything that happen here years ago!
Bxgrl Morris can handle herself...
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at April 30, 2009 12:59 PM
DIBS, WHAT knows my post was for him.
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 1:02 PM
Hi everyone, I see a correction coming by next week.... If we can hold 666 on the SP 500 the market rallies huge if it doesn't than major pain ahead... Good luck to all.. Anyone want to sell me their BHEIGHTS TOWNHOUSE FOR 1 MILLION?
Posted by: HOBOKENROCKS at April 30, 2009 1:02 PM
"I don't live in Park Slope because I didn't want to spend that kind of money with the three other residences."
Right.... You can't afford it!
"Besides, I'm going to make more money on this property from a lower base. I'm sure even you can understand that."
Right.... You will make money.... 2046.
"Come by and we'll do lunch and talk about your portfolio. I'll teach you how you too can accumulate enough money to have three vacation properties and a garage full of cars."
Can I bring my Bat???
"Lunch will be on me, btw."
You wont make to lunch...
"I have NEVER claimed to have grown up in Brooklyn, and defy you to find where I have."
You sure act like it Morris and Plus you missed the Airplane Factory on Eastern Parkway and Before Ave. when you was getting moist over the old Car Showroom places..
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at April 30, 2009 1:04 PM
"Hi everyone, I see a correction coming by next week.... If we can hold 666 on the SP 500 the market rallies huge if it doesn't than major pain ahead... "
Not yet! I think the Short Bus have plenty of gas and this rally can hold up till June!
The Shorts are getting squeezed like hell, LMMFAO! Be careful!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at April 30, 2009 1:08 PM
"DIBS, WHAT knows my post was for him."
If I was you (Thank GOD), I would take my ass back to work stupid because you're next to the firing line Jackass! Stop jerking off on the computer!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at April 30, 2009 1:10 PM
Since when do you have to be born and raised in Brooklyn to have a right to an opinion? especially if you live here? More especially if you love it as much as she does. And yes- Montrose can take care of herself, very very well- but you posted it publically for everyone to see. The corrollary to that is that you want everyone to respond and your big problem is that they aren't agreeing with you. Why don't you just grow up and act your age.
Oh- an about that comment about Copernicus? You do know the difference between "astronomy" and "astrology"? You do understand that Copernicus put the sun at the center of the solar system, as opposed to the idea that the earth was at the center (or riding on turtles?). Or that Copernicus had a completely different concept of the universe, which takes away nothing from the vast contributions of the Egyptians. Maybe you should stop looking at everything in life through the lens of racism- the only one trying to rewrite the world according to an agenda is you.
Posted by: bxgrl at April 30, 2009 1:13 PM
Red wine- WooHoo!!!
Love the smell of WD-40
Biff- Where is that dancing pic from? It's great.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at April 30, 2009 1:16 PM
Does WD-40 smell like napalm?
THL, thanks! For some reason I love looking at that pic. I got it from Google images when I was looking up something. I can stare at it for hours. Looks like it was scanned from a yearbook based on the crease in the middle. I love the expression on the woman's face (even though it's mostly blocked by her hair...which makes it even more interesting).
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 1:20 PM
"You do know the difference between "astronomy" and "astrology"?"
They are intertwined...
" Or that Copernicus had a completely different concept of the universe, which takes away nothing from the vast contributions of the Egyptians. "
I know the "Con" in Concept.
"Maybe you should stop looking at everything in life through the lens of racism- the only one trying to rewrite the world according to an agenda is you."
This only person is you Bxgrl..
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at April 30, 2009 1:21 PM
WHAT, feel free to type but dont pretend to be tough guy/gal/etc. Typing speed, things to say, people to insult, you're good at that. "Being tough" is something you can type but not be. Prove me wrong and show up to the gathering and say that to my face.
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 1:24 PM
What, a question I've pondered (and have no answer to) is how long must someone live somewhere before they can say they are from that place? In other words, if someone is born in Brooklyn and his family moves away when he's 2, is he a Brooklynite for life? What if he moves away at 10 or 20?
On the other hand, what if someone moves to Brooklyn when they are 2 or 10 or 20? Can they every consider themselves Brooklynites and, if so, after how many years of being there?
I've been in New York for over a decade but don't know if I feel like I'm a New Yorker. And I really am not sure I could say I'm a Brooklynite. Maybe I'm just an Asshat?
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 1:29 PM
my opinion Biff - 7 years.
if i'm not mistaken that's how long it takes to live in the US states and become a citizen.
So if the united states is willing to welcome an outsider after 7 years - then so should NYC!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 30, 2009 1:37 PM
Biff, don't ask that guy...do you really think he has some sort of golden metric? You're great. Call yourself whatever you want -- I'm a believer.
Posted by: jessibaby at April 30, 2009 1:38 PM
I have lived in NYC for 10+ years & love it and hope to stay here (now a dual citizen). Even if I live here the rest of my life I don't think I would ever say I am from NYC.
Meanwhile I still describe myself as being from the city where I was born and grew up, even though I haven't lived there since I moved away to college and only go back 1-2 weeks per year typically.
Posted by: etson at April 30, 2009 1:38 PM
Biff....Everyone has a different definition.
Unlike etson, I grew up here and wasn't born here but came to US (Brooklyn NY) when I was 11 and consider myself a die hard Brooklynite. I don't associate myself with the country that I was born and we left there as refugees anyways so my only citizenship is US of A. I would serve in the army in this country anyday and wouldn't do it for any other country (well maybe Israel if I lived there but that's a whole different story). I also don't see myself living anywhere else in the world other than New York. If I ever end up moving, I think I'll consider myself a Brooklynite at heart forever.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 1:46 PM
DH, actually, it takes longer usually. The Green Card process took me almost 5 years (and is likely longer now) and then you have a wait period of another 5 years less 90 days from getting the Green Card until citizenship. But I must say that, as painful and prolonged as the Green Card process was, the citizenship process went incredibly smooth. I would say it's around 10 years for the whole process these days.
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 1:46 PM
JB, that was funny! But What opened up the discussion about growing up in and out of New York and I actually do find him to be insightful at times. He's likely one of the few here who was raised in Brooklyn, so I would like to know his opinion. It doesn't mean I'll take it as gospel...just wondering.
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 1:48 PM
etson and Kens, I guess what it comes down to is that it's up to how someone feels. Every situation is so unique I think it's impossible to measure everyone's situation in terms of years here or there. Like etson, I have a hard time saying I'm from New York or a New Yorker. Unlike Kens, I cherish the country in which I was born and raised and will always consider that my true home, even if I end up living in NYC for a longer time than I was there. When I go back and visit, to me it is really like going home. It's different than when I return to NYC after being away.
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 1:51 PM
WHAT.. I presume your definition of a true Brooklynite and not a transplant is if you were here during rough times and stuck around, you're a Brooklynite.
For example, in my opinion, Montrose is here over 25 years and knows more about Brooklyn and it's history then all of the born and raised Brooklynites that I know put together. How does that not make her a Brooklynite?
I am not trying to pick a fight or anything with you, just want to know your opinion as much as Biff.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 1:52 PM
consider myself New Yawker, formerly manhattanite, currently brooklynite, future Jersey Ci... arh arh can't spit it out so easily. Prices, please fall hard so I can delay moving to Jersey till kid goes to school
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 1:55 PM
Biff, I think you put it in perspective. I think people mostly consider themselves whatever City/Country comes to mind first when you think of "HOME". To me, it's always been New York City. That's home.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 1:56 PM
Biff, I immigrated from ...........
hehe, that was to tease DIBS
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 1:59 PM
I am a good hybrid example of the is he or isn't he a lifelong Brooklyner issue. Born in Brooklyn, partially raised here, moved during childhood, moved back 15 years ago so about half of my life lived in Brooklyn. In Asshat Hill for 7 years now. I know I consider myself a dyed in the wool Brooklynite.
Posted by: wasder at April 30, 2009 2:01 PM
M4L, I believe you mean, "I emigrated from"
I immigrated to the US from Canada
I emigrated from Canada to the US
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 2:03 PM
I consider myself a New Yorker who live in Jersey. Shoot, I was born and raised in NY and spent 12 of those years in Brooklyn. That can't be erased by spending the last 2 in Jersey City can it? Maybe after I've put in 7 years but certainly not yet.
My hubby laughs at me all the time. Whenever we watch the news and Bloomberg's on I'll say, "Our mayor blah blah..." He'll say that's NOT YOUR mayor anymore. Then I hear something about the MTA and I'll say, "They're screwing us...." and my husband will then remind me I take the PATH train not the subway.
Leaving NYC either has a very steep learning curve or I'm delusional and clinging to it by the very tips of my fingernails.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at April 30, 2009 2:07 PM
THL, I don't think you're delusional at all. Thinking aloud and hearing some thoughts here is convincing me that home is where the heart is and wherever you consider it to be. It's the place where you feel you represent and that represents you best.
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 2:09 PM
M4L, I wasn't trying to bust your balls before, btw, over the grammar. Didn't mean to come across as an ass (shut up, BRG) as I know you're having a tough day.
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 2:11 PM
Don't mean to resurrect dead issues here, but i must.
Oh- an about that comment about Copernicus? You do know the difference between "astronomy" and "astrology"? You do understand that Copernicus put the sun at the center of the solar system, as opposed to the idea that the earth was at the center (or riding on turtles?).
BXgirl-
The Egyptians were heliocentric during different dynasties (their cosmological and religious beliefs changed depending on the ruler)
Archimedes even credited them with heliocentrism, but the idea in general lost favor until copernicus
Posted by: Troy McClure at April 30, 2009 2:11 PM
I've spent almost my entire live in Brooklyn. Came here when I was a baby. I don't ever want to leave (except when I retire and move to Southern Spain [sigh]) Even if I move to another state, I'll always consider myself a New Yorker.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 2:13 PM
Biff... again, agreed.
THL that was funny. That would definitely be me if I ever moved to Joysee.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 2:13 PM
I'm just an asshat. Ok, maybe an asshat that was raised here in CH, but still an asshat nonetheless! And What isn't going to like this, but I wasn't born here. I 'emigrated' with my parents at the age of 2 from 'parts North'. Although my Pop was born here.
All this talk about who is and who ain't a NY'er is really pointless. It's really all about heart.
Do you love it here? Do you really want it to be good and strong, and to be a part of the character, heart and soul of the place? Then no matter if you have been here for 45 years or 5 years. You are a NY'er. Just like this country, NY was built on immigrants. And the melding of cultures and ideas.
What, I know you have the heart and soul, of this place we know and love, in you. And I love tripping down memory lane with you, you know I do.
But please, please, for g*ds sake TAKE THE MEDS! ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 2:14 PM
Here comes Cobblehiller, our fight squasher extraordinaire :o).
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 2:17 PM
i only lived in harlem for 15 but i consider myself a true harlemite even tho i now live in brooklyn. when people ask me where im from i say harlem. lol.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 2:17 PM
"M4L, I wasn't trying to bust your balls before, btw, over the grammar. Didn't mean to come across as an ass (shut up, BRG)"
What are you eluding to Biff? hat I think you're an ass everytime you call someone out on their grammer/spelling. I think you should allude correcting people
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 2:17 PM
M4L, very sorry to hear of the 'devastation' in your office today. I was 'there' myself back in early December when 8 people in my group 'got the tap on the shoulder'. And I followed a few weeks shortly thereafter. It's 'not pretty'.
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 2:17 PM
"our fight squasher extraordinaire"
Kens: LOL, moi? I thought I was just a thread squasher/killer! ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 2:19 PM
Hi Biff How are you doing? Long time, no talk. Here we go!
"For example, in my opinion, Montrose is here over 25 years and knows more about Brooklyn and it's history then all of the born and raised Brooklynites that I know put together."
I disagree with you Biff. As per the WABC, Downtown Brooklyn and the WBLS Frankie Crocker posts there are holes in Morris history about Brooklyn. My assessment of those holes was very harsh and I'm sorry for that but what I wrote but cannot stand is the total re-writing of history. Biff Brooklyn and the City of New York has gone thru a dramatic transformation over the last few years! People like myself hate to see change happen so fast and wished for the "good ole days" of Brooklyn but that will never happen again. The New York I know about got crushed by the Mutant Asset Bubble! Only Cobblehiller and Benson are the only people on Brownstoner that understands where I'm coming from (Yes Benson). The disgusting thing is if Morris grew up here and was drawing from those experiences then, I would not have a problem with it (Swear to GOD) but when I read such nonsense (Because I was born and raise here and know the history) it turn my stomach to see it! That's like my moving to Palo Alto, CA and starting a Blog and telling everyone there that it happen this way. I call bullshit on things that I know are false, did not happen and had no part of Brooklyn!
"On the other hand, what if someone moves to Brooklyn when they are 2 or 10 or 20? Can they every consider themselves Brooklynites and, if so, after how many years of being there?"
Hell yes Biff!! But don't try to re-write things to fit you agenda, that's pure bullshit!!!!
Also I'm on a Egyptian rant because no one want to acknowledge the source! Everything we have in place came from them, EVERYFUCKING THING!
"I really am not sure I could say I'm a Brooklynite. Maybe I'm just an Asshat?"
Biff you are not a Asshat! A Asshat is someone that tries to Hijack a neighborhood and force people out (High rents, price and smugness). You live in Brooklyn Heights and you put your money where you month is. Plus I never heard you complain about the conditions of Brooklyn (Even when we was at war) NEVER! People come the New York everyday and make it and they blend in. They are real New Yorkers in my book, not some neighborhood hi-jacking Asshat!
The What (Only for you Biff, only you!)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at April 30, 2009 2:20 PM
i meant 15 months not years. duh. but i like to think that harlem is wear i got my wings.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 2:20 PM
Hey fags. What's going on?
Posted by: w45poywwttgwt at April 30, 2009 2:22 PM
"But please, please, for g*ds sake TAKE THE MEDS! ; )"
They wanted me to take the Meds but I said NO NO NO!!!
The What (Running down the street but ass naked with the orderlies chasing him)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at April 30, 2009 2:23 PM
"Plus I never heard you complain about the conditions of Brooklyn (Even when we was at war)"
War?? Brooklyn was in a Civil War?
North vs. South
Brooklyn Heights vs. Bay Ridge
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 2:26 PM
"They wanted me to take the Meds but I said NO NO NO!!!
The What (Running down the street but ass naked with the orderlies chasing him)"
You crack me up What!
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 2:26 PM
Hey What,
Don't go around saying everything came from the Egyptians. It will lead people to discredit any contributions we do attribute to them. The Egyptians did give us a hell of a lot and a hell of a lot mor than they will ever get credit for.
But when you go around with blanket statements, it will make you the boy who cried egypt and only aids the Eurocentrism we're already stuck with.
The CHinese and Arabs are just starting to get credit (relatively speaking over the course of recorded history) for their achievements. Let's not shoot Osiris in the foot now
Posted by: Troy McClure at April 30, 2009 2:26 PM
The What (Running down the street but ass naked with the orderlies chasing him)
What, that was LOL funny!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at April 30, 2009 2:27 PM
Say BayRidgeGirl, you were going to tell us what you look like. Let's hear it...but let me get a rag ready in case it's really good...
Posted by: w45poywwttgwt at April 30, 2009 2:27 PM
I take it someone's already sent "the email" correct? If not I'd be happy to oblige.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at April 30, 2009 2:29 PM
M4L, I know what can make you feel better! Serious fighting going on in the under a million thread. 11217 vs. Rob and DH with JB throwing a jab or two (she is a quick learner).
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 2:31 PM
Qu'est-ce c'est email? Can I be included? Pretty please?
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 2:31 PM
I'm back.
Did i hear the What say he was Egyptian???
Who's talikng about immigrants???? I'm only interested in a few of them.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 2:32 PM
FYI...that's the email you DON'T want to be included in Cobble.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at April 30, 2009 2:33 PM
Please no one respond!!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 2:34 PM
you're not the boss, brg
Posted by: swine_flu at April 30, 2009 2:36 PM
THL, that was just a petty distraction tactic, perhaps too subtle!? : (
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 2:36 PM
more4less...I understand your pain in not being able to write that. When I closeed on my Brooklyn place I was joking with my lawyer that I couldn't get myself to write Brooklyn as my address. LOL
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 2:36 PM
oooooooooooh from 11217...
"The blog has become a total shitshow. One can't discuss real estate without starting a war, and the OT has become romper room for people with zero social skills or those who are jobless "looking for work"
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 2:37 PM
rob, you are not very smart.
Posted by: swine_flu at April 30, 2009 2:39 PM
Yipeee! 11217! Which thread! Where! I wanna see!
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 2:39 PM
"For example, in my opinion, Montrose is here over 25 years and knows more about Brooklyn and it's history then all of the born and raised Brooklynites that I know put together."
What, just to set the record straight, you quoted me on that but it was Kensingtonian who said that, not me. Regardless, I appreciate you responding to my own points and thanks for the positive things you said about me.
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 2:40 PM
CH the under the million sales thread
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 2:40 PM
Biff, that's hitting low. Already told you my SAT English score was 500 so what do you expect? Immigrate, emmigrate,.. sounds pretty close to this immigrant
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 2:42 PM
M4L, I know...I just like to make the distinction.
Cobble, are you also from the Great White North???
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 2:45 PM
kidding aside, prime areas of Jersey city is real nice. paulus hook section feels a lot like cobble hill or carroll garden. so if prices in BK does not tank, I'll be moving there & prices are cracking there now
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 2:45 PM
morefless...ever hear what the Prime Minister of New Zealand said many years ago? "When someone emmigrates from New Zealand to Australia, the average IQ of BOTH countries goes up."
Classic.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 2:45 PM
Muchas Gracias Kens!
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 2:46 PM
jesus christ! wtf?!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 30, 2009 2:47 PM
"What, just to set the record straight, you quoted me on that but it was Kensingtonian who said that, not me."
Eh sorry Biff, my bad. I have to adjust the Targeting System.
"Regardless, I appreciate you responding to my own points and thanks for the positive things you said about me."
I meant every word.
See ya later..
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at April 30, 2009 2:47 PM
someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morn!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 30, 2009 2:50 PM
Biff, teach me how to become buddy-buddy with the What.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 2:50 PM
[towls off DH and slaps his *ss a few times]
Nice round DH, nice round....KO for sure.
Posted by: jessibaby at April 30, 2009 2:52 PM
Cobble, I think your post said it all.
As for me, I guess I have no right to say anything about Brooklyn, according to what. I'm a relative newcomer in that I've only been here 24 years (slighly more than half a lifetime). I've lived in 7 residences in Brooklyn all within a 30-block radius, so I really haven't gotten around. I've owned, co-opped and rented, but never owned multiple properties. I've only researched the title, occupancy and neighborhood history of one house. There are still a few neighborhoods I haven't spent any time in (hello Bushwick! your time will come). I am still learning some of the Brooklyn basics, like how to reach Buzzy to open Buzz-a-rama when he didn't feel like opening, or where the best spot is in Red Hook to do yoga within view of the Statute of Liberty, or how great the hat guy on Dekalb is, or how late lap swim goes at the red hook pool on weeknights, or who has the best Turkish food near Ave. P, or when to go to Shannon florist/nursery to avoid the crowds, or how to get free advice about dealing with DOB from an architect at 6:30 am, or when you can get a free kayak outing in Canarsie, and I still haven't visited the surviving community gardens in Brownsville. So, by what's terms, I guess I have no right to comment on Brooklyn because I haven't lived here as long as he has, didn't live the Ocean Hill Brownsville fight first hand, and don't use every opportunity to advance an Afro-centric view of history. I got news for you what, if you weren't living in Brooklyn long enough ago to have seen the Dodgers at Ebbets Field, there are a bunch of old guys who won't count you, either (and some of those guys play some mean bocce).
Cobble's right. You've had some good days lately, but you seem to be tilting at windmills today.
Posted by: slopefarm at April 30, 2009 2:52 PM
DIBS, classic
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 2:52 PM
slopefarm,
Best turkish by far is Tacis Beyti. Coney Island Ave. between Avenue P and Quentin Road. They have been there for over 20 years and so far, I haven't had better. Plus it's BYOB.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 2:57 PM
wow 11217 what a lil snot bubble! in case any of you "jobless" people aren't out pounding the pavement, let 11217 spell it out to you! (i took this here cuz i dont think the other thread should go off on a tangent..)
..
No offense, but wasn't the OT shut down yesterday? Didn't see what happened, but saw the remnants when I got back to town last night.
If Mr. B wasn't afraid of losing the 300 comments a day from you guys, he'd probably take it away. But hey...it's a free country...I don't really care, but let's not suggest that the OT is the standard for good conversation.
I've glanced in maybe 3 or 4 times total and simply thought it was high school chatroom type stuff. Pretty lame to say the least. What is especially offensive is the people who are out of work and posting 100 comments per 30 minutes. But again...to each his/her own. I'd just feel like a loser doing that all day when I'm supposed to be pounding the pavement.
Not really on par with what is supposed to be an excellent and high quality blog about real estate.
Mr. B lets you guys keep it so you don't all run away crying. Otherwise, why would he WANT to keep it so you all can talk about nonsense all day? Think about it.
When newcomers come to this blog and see the OT, I'm sure lots are kinda grossed out by a bunch of "adults" talking about absolute nonsense all day.
There are other outlets for such things, you realize...
**
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 2:58 PM
I've lived in Brooklyn since June, 2007 and I had been there once before in my entire life. I think I'm qualified to say whatever I feel like at any given time. I've never lived in Queens or The Bronx so I'll refrain from any discussion on them. :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 2:59 PM
Yeah, you better just get the hell out Slopey! ; )
jessi, you are growing on me, I'll give you that!
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 3:01 PM
Wow, self riotous much 11217?
Posted by: TownhouseLady at April 30, 2009 3:01 PM
DIBS, so if I were to ask you what you consider "home", what would you say?
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 3:03 PM
"Cobble, are you also from the Great White North???"
Silly answer: Uhm, I didn't say I was born in the Artic Circle! ; )
Serious Answer: Think 'WASP' central, not quite as far north as where you're from.
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 3:03 PM
DIBS, I thought you might say you consider Bangkok home.
(re-writes, get your re-writes)
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 3:04 PM
Should I go give 11217 the "Meds talk"? ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 3:05 PM
DH, we've got your back dear.
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 3:06 PM
troy- I should have clarified a little better. What's comment was to claim the Egyptians invented everything but used the fact that Copernicus actually came up with "a fully predictive mathematical model of a heliocentric system" as an example.
The Egyptians may have believed in heliocentrism at varying times, but never came up with such a model and Copernicus was an astronomer- not an astrologer which the What seems not to know are different fields of study (yes interrelated- but very different). So his entire argument is a red herring, in the meantime he takes MM to takes for supposedly being ignorant of Brooklyn.
Posted by: bxgrl at April 30, 2009 3:09 PM
Kens,
I know about Tacis Beyti. I said I am still learning these various things, not that I don't know them. Looks like a hole in the wall compared with the "palaces" nearby. TB's marinated, grilled eggplant is amazing.
Kens, you live near Buzzy's place. Have you ever gone in? Such a throwback.
Posted by: slopefarm at April 30, 2009 3:11 PM
Kens..."home" is Brooklyn but maybe I'm more attached to Philly since I've been there since 1998. I know I root for the Eagles and the Phillies over any of these NYC teams. My mother has them covered. DO NOT REWRITE THAT LAST SENTENCE.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 3:11 PM
Bif....you've been called out by 11217 @ 3:11 in the "Under $1MM" thread.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 3:14 PM
haha chiller - what silliness!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 30, 2009 3:15 PM
Cobble, I'm going, i'm going . . . as soon as what can prove Buddhism originated in Egypt. Too bad he's a bit off the rails today. He's been quite witty as of late. I don't hate him, I just think some of the venom is gratuitous and he needs to be called on it.
Posted by: slopefarm at April 30, 2009 3:18 PM
Duly noted bxgirl,
However, you were pretty clear in stating that Copernicus, not the Egyptians, placed the sun at the Universe's center.
"You do understand that Copernicus put the sun at the center of the solar system, as opposed to the idea that the earth was at the center (or riding on turtles?)."
Sorry if I'm coming off as confrontational, not my intention, but I get passionate about History, especially the Egyptians.
Posted by: Troy McClure at April 30, 2009 3:19 PM
slopefarm,
it does look like hole in the wall. Sahara does not but their quality has fallen to crap over the past few years.
What's Buzzy's? Where is it?
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 3:19 PM
DIBS, I like Philly as well. Have cousins both in center city and suburbs right off NorthEast (not sure if it's Bucks County but I think it is).
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 3:21 PM
"DIBS, I thought you might say you consider Bangkok home.
(re-writes, get your re-writes)"
nah...this one is too easy to re-write...give me a challenge please
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 3:23 PM
Biff, one can only aspire to live in Heaven.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 3:26 PM
"Also I'm on a Egyptian rant because no one want to acknowledge the source! Everything we have in place came from them, EVERYFUCKING THING!"
What, what about the Chinese? They predate the Egyptians on a lot of things.
Posted by: Arkady at April 30, 2009 3:26 PM
troy- I get passionate about it as well and when the What pisses me off I write too fast and in this case dumbed it down to his level. Since he can't tell the difference between astronomy and astrology I didn't see the need to get too detailed. But my degree is in anthropology, and my field of interest was ancient, not modern, so I understand where you're coming from.
Posted by: bxgrl at April 30, 2009 3:29 PM
What is this 'Tacis Beyti' you speak of and where is it? Don't make me scroll up.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 3:31 PM
I want to set up an arm wrestling contest at the Outpost between rob and 11217.
I wonder if What's got a little Eqyptian in him.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 3:32 PM
arkady- facts don't matter to What.
Posted by: bxgrl at April 30, 2009 3:32 PM
Kens,
Buzz-a-rama -- slot car racing. Church & Dahill. Last one left in Brooklyn, AFAIK. Place hasn't changed in 40 years.
DIBS,
I like Philly, too. My wife's from the area and I worked there one summer. We are in Center City a lot. Older suburbs are filled with great stone houses and wooded hills. City has lots of great rowhouses, a bit of Brooklyn and Beacon Hill, but cheaper. Great music history -- jazz, soul, folk, etc. Great cultural amenities. Easy to get around. I have to sign off the thread, but are you in the suburbs or the City?
Posted by: slopefarm at April 30, 2009 3:33 PM
dibs- no. But he does have a lot of BS.
Posted by: bxgrl at April 30, 2009 3:34 PM
"I wonder if What's got a little Eqyptian in him."
No, but I bet he'd like some
Posted by: Troy McClure at April 30, 2009 3:37 PM
For anyone determined to prove themselves as a true Brooklynite, I recommend the following topics from my childhood: please debate the relative costs and merits of a Spaldeen v. a Pensy Pinky, and whether bottlecaps should or should not be filled when playing Skelly. (I am, BTW, a native Brooklynite, older than DIBS but probably not the What, and can speak about the OH-B strike from firsthand experience.)
As to heliocentrism, Egyptians, turtles, and definitive knowledge, I recommend the following (copied from Wikipedia, to save typing): The most widely known version [of "Turtles all the way down"] appears in Stephen Hawking's 1988 book A Brief History of Time, which starts: “A well-known scientist (some say it was Bertrand Russell) once gave a public lecture on astronomy. He described how the earth orbits around the sun and how the sun, in turn, orbits around the center of a vast collection of stars called our galaxy. At the end of the lecture, a little old lady at the back of the room got up and said: "What you have told us is rubbish. The world is really a flat plate supported on the back of a giant tortoise." The scientist gave a superior smile before replying, "What is the tortoise standing on?" "You're very clever, young man, very clever," said the old lady. "But it's turtles all the way down!"
Posted by: vinca at April 30, 2009 3:37 PM
well that was refreshing.
good riddance 11217 - have fun in your garden
Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 30, 2009 3:38 PM
kens yes you can come and bring your vodka to the roof thingie! is snappy here today? snappy and dipster would sometime during the week next week be better? the weather will be nicer, i think it's going to be grey and rainey tomorrow. and someone said they like 11217 cuz he has a lot of fight in him. i find him quite entertaining cuz he really knows how to queen out better than anyone ive ever seen!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 3:38 PM
slope...I'm at 12th and Waverly and also out in Bucks County. We have a nice corner federal townhouse built in 1810. I like Philly because its quiet and civilized. Over the past 10 years the restaurants now compwete with anywhere in the country but that wsn't true 10 years ago save for but a few.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 3:40 PM
slopefarm, I drove by a million times and never knew what that building is!!! I am totally going there now! Thanks!!!!
BRG, trust me, it's really really really good quality Turkish food and cheap!
http://events.nytimes.com/gst/nycguide.html?detail=restaurants&id=1106681330981
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 3:42 PM
*debating whether or not we need a bonus Feel Good Video of the Day right about now*
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 3:43 PM
yeah next week works too.
I used to feel the same way about 11217, he would always be a catalyst for debate given his strong opinions - but he just sorta lost it today, very outta character. Who knows.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 30, 2009 3:43 PM
DIBS, I lived at 15th and Waverly back in 2000.
Posted by: jessibaby at April 30, 2009 3:43 PM
I really don't know why the What has his panties in a twist over what I write. He is especially upset over 2 topics that I voiced my memories of: downtown Brooklyn in the 80's, when I first moved to Bklyn, and my mother's friendship with Frankie Crocker's mother. I don't know why both of those innocuous comments bother him so much, but apparently they do.
Regarding downtown, I simply recounted the stores and conditions as I remember them. Several other people corroborated the same memories, but I pissed him off because he feels I horned in on his memories and his thread, although posting anything on a public blog is fair game for joining in on. If not, write the person you are talking to a private email.
Regarding FC, I said at the time that he was my mother's friend's son. The friend did not live in New York, or even on the east coast. I met Mr. Crocker twice for about 20 minutes each time. I did not know him, and was not aware that he died. My mother and her friend died years ago, and no further social connection was made. For some reason the What also thinks I co-opted his memories of Frankie Crocker. I don't know how he came to that conclusion, and frankly, I don't care. I only write this to explain to anyone who may even give a flying fahootie as to why the What thinks I make up history.
Perhaps instead of insisting that all history comes from the Egyptians, he should realize that others have a point of view, as well, and that their contributions to both history, and one's more recent memories of Brooklyn and New York culture, have worth, too.
Basta, finito.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at April 30, 2009 3:45 PM
Biff....I had a hangover this morning so I feel better now than at any point earlier. And, looking forward to this evenings hijinks.
Would this be mre appropriately a FGVOTA (...Of The Afternoon)?
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 3:46 PM
And wasn't there an actor named Abe FGVOTA??
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 3:48 PM
rob, next week any evening works better for me. Can we bbq on your roof by any chance? That's would be full of awesomeness!
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 3:50 PM
"What, what about the Chinese? They predate the Egyptians on a lot of things."
I was waiting for that. Did you know the Buddha is a Black man? Did you know Africans had major influence on India and China.
http://clyde.winters.tripod.com/junezine/id1.html
IN NORTHERN CHINA the Blacks/Africoids founded many Civilizations. The three major empires of China were the Xia, Dynasty (1900-1700 BC), Shang/Yin Dynasty (1700-1050 BC) and the Zhou Dynasty. The Zhou Dynasty was the first dynasty founded by the Mongoloid people in China.
This is scratching the surface.... I know you don't want to dig deeper. It would shatter you belief system. Stop it you know the truth...
Hey Troy McClure please add something to the discussion...
The What (Look deeper in to Africa)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at April 30, 2009 3:51 PM
"Basta, finito."
Your Mother...
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Basta, fukugo!
Posted by: Return of The What at April 30, 2009 3:53 PM
Here's a FGVOTA.....
What, this one's for you, baby!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP7AJiQM2RI
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXQZFKOV_GY
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 3:53 PM
Man, who's going to stir the pot now that 11217 is outta here (btw, I place 5% odds that being true)? Reading ESPN.com is really bad for me now - no NYC / NJ team is well currently.
Damn Biff, you got me checking my spelling, grammar, word selection,.....
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 3:54 PM
Where's the chicken to stand up for China????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 3:56 PM
DIBS, nice try but here is the OFFICIAL FGVOTA.
It's two-fer Thursdays today in a rare but much needed double dose of the Feel Good Video of the Day.
Funky song mixed with pictures to warm the hearts of all the animal lovers in here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYLsyNBnE5M
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 3:57 PM
"whether bottlecaps should or should not be filled when playing Skelly."
In my neighborhood, it was optional, subject to majority rule of the players. But almost all of us did it, so it was pretty much a given that we'd vote for "filled." We'd collect cps of various sizes and use them in specific situations. One of the guys got a Vaseline jar top and spent like a week filling it with wax. It must have weighed a pound or two. He'd whip it out whenever he didn't want his cap to get bumped.
"Spaldeen v. a Pensy Pinky"
We'd nly use Spaldeens. Never hears of a Pensy Pinksy. We didn't have them in ENY, I guess.
Posted by: East New York at April 30, 2009 3:58 PM
DIBS, nothing perks up the afternoon like Susanna Hoffs!
M4L, sorry, I promise to give you a free pass for the rest of the day, my friend.
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 3:58 PM
"BRG, trust me, it's really really really good quality Turkish food and cheap!"
Why am I drawing a blank on this place? I was hired to write restaurant reviews for a few places in brooklyn, several on Coney Island Avenue. A couple of weeks ago, Hubby and I were there eating at the restaurants. We ate at sooo many, but yet this one is escaping me. I have to go back to my notes.
Not sure I ate at this one, as I love turkish and would remember.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 4:01 PM
ENY and vinca, I love your reminiscing about growing up in Brooklyn. Please keep it up. Not to mention this delicious re-write in the making:
"One of the guys got a Vaseline jar top and spent like a week filling it with wax. It must have weighed a pound or two. He'd whip it out whenever he didn't want his cap to get bumped."
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 4:02 PM
In "Dreams From My Father," Barack Obama wrote that he had several family members who had lived their entire lives in Nairobi and considered it to be their home. But it wasn't really their true home, since the Obama family came from the a village on the shores of Lake Victoria. They called that village "home squared," which perfectly captures my feelings about Brooklyn (my "home" of seven years - ten years in NYC), and San Diego (first 18 years of my life - definitely "home squared"). I would imagine there are some others here who feel the same way.
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at April 30, 2009 4:03 PM
Thank you for your posts in the 'other' thread BRG and mopar, much appreciated. : )
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 4:06 PM
No thanks required Cobble...I don't mind a good argument. I just don't like hitting below the belt. To me that's really cowardly.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 4:10 PM
Hey, foodies, tell me this: Where can I get or sit down and eat really good besteeya?
[Not sure I'm spelling this correctly!] It's the filo, chicken, cinnamon, sometimes raisins and/or nuts, and other spices dish.
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 4:11 PM
ENY, we filled our caps with melted solder. Pensy Pinkys cost a nickel more than Spaldeens. We couldn't afford them and didn't think they bounced as well, but they were lorded over us by the rich kids down the block. The trick with Spaldeens was to rub the seams against the pavement until they'd been smoothed enough to match the rest of the ball.
Posted by: vinca at April 30, 2009 4:14 PM
Only Spaldeens- but I'm not a true Brooklynite to some (the 20+ years here don't count, I guess.) Fine with me- I'm damn proud of the Bronx, love Brooklyn and give a rats ass whether or not anyone defines me as a true Brooklynite or not.
Posted by: bxgrl at April 30, 2009 4:16 PM
CH - is that the Greek dish or perhaps middle eastern?
b/c man I think I know what that is and it's unreal!
Posted by: gemini10 at April 30, 2009 4:18 PM
Just catching up on the various FGVOTDs - geez, I wish the Dept of Ed didn't censor Youtube! I need these more at work than at home.
Also, the latest silliness from the education bureaucRATS: we were told by the quality reviewer in our school that we should not write comments on student work. Comments deface the product and are inherently threatening. Therefore, we should use post-its. Will they provide us with the million post-its we'll need for this? No.
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at April 30, 2009 4:18 PM
"love Brooklyn and give a rats ass whether or not anyone defines me as a true Brooklynite or not."
Spoken like a true Brooklynite :o)
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 4:19 PM
sixyears...that's the most assinine thing I've heard in many years. Take it to The Post and let them run with it!!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 4:21 PM
quote:
rob, next week any evening works better for me. Can we bbq on your roof by any chance? That's would be full of awesomeness!
i believe so. there are bbq grills up there. my roof is sorta weird tho because a few apartments have additions added. these little teeny tiny vinyl sided houses on top of the roof, complete with white picket fences and stuff. i dont really know anyone on the top floor tho to ask to borrow the grill, tho i could put up a note maybe in the hall asking. i have never bbq'd in my life tho just keep that in mind hahaha. hopefully someone will lend me one if i put a note. tho a few weeks i put up a note in the hall asking if anyone had an old vcr they could lend me (i found some random porno in a box in my closet that i didnt get thrown out with the rest of the vhs pornos) but no one responded. maybe no one has an old vcr anymore :(
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 4:22 PM
"CH - is that the Greek dish or perhaps middle eastern?
b/c man I think I know what that is and it's unreal!"
Gem, well, I think the place that I used to go to in San Francisco to get it was Moroccan. But I think other nationalities make similar dishes.
I have such wonderful memories of it! I tried to make it recently, and uhm, well, uh, it didn't turn out so great!
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 4:23 PM
dibs, The thing about hangovers is that you know you going to feel better eventually, those poor tea-totalers wake up the best they're going to feel, nothing to look forward to.
Posted by: DeLepp at April 30, 2009 4:23 PM
MM: No worries about the late response - I'm teaching that lesson tomorrow. Sorry it provoked the wrath of the What (although I must say his confusion between astrology and astronomy was a good laugh!).
Kensingtonian: I might head over to Sycamore tonight. The man-date will happen one of these days!
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at April 30, 2009 4:23 PM
What, I will even grant you that some, or even all, of that information is true. So what, really? It makes sense that the early peoples of the world, who undisputedly came from the African continent, spread across the world to become the various peoples of the earth. Any high school student who paid attentions during genetics week can affirm that over the centuries, those people gradually changed into the racial groups we have today, due to the environments they lived in, and the ebb and flow of genetic traits being accepted and rejected into the gene pool, by environments, conditions and other factors .
And we know now that many early peoples travelled and traded much farther afield than we previously gave credit for. Therefore, you find evidence of black people in parts of Mexico and South America well before the Spanish brought slaves to the area. You find various other peoples in places not thought visited, until evidence was found to the contrary. Everyone knows the Native American peoples are the decendants of Asian peoples who migrated across the Russian steppes over to North America.
I understand the need for pride in proving that our Negroid African ancestors were not just savages without brains or a history, a slave race for centuries of our betters. I understand the need for websites and books, to prove that everyone from Ramses to Jesus to Beethoven was black. I celebrate the books that show that many of the great inventions of our times were invented by black people who got no credit, no fame or fortune, and were often ripped off by people who are now accredited for their hard work. It is frustrating, maddening and unfair to have nothing but the works of conquering Europeans made to be the entirety of history. I HEAR YOU!
But I see no sense in being like those guys in Times Square with the absurd robes on, insisting that the 12 Tribes of Israel are 12 island nations in the Caribbean. Nonsensical history is worse than inaccurate history. Putting up a website with a couple of statues to prove that the early Chinese were black no more proves that than some neo-Nazi website with a couple of pictures of monkeys and black people is true. Our racial honor is neither advanced nor diminished by admitting or celebrating the accomplishments of others. The truths taught by Jesus, for example, are great truths whether he was Semitic, North African, Nubian or Teutonic. Only the latter is out of the question.
I tell you sincerely that what we do NOW, is what is important. How we deal with people, with the world. That is why Obama fascinates the world. Why what we, as Brooklynites of all races and colors need to unite to protect what we love, not worry so much about the color of the hand reached out in friendship.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at April 30, 2009 4:27 PM
rob, you're hilarious.
Fine, let me know for what day next week and I am down. I guess we have to exchange emails at some point to get this out of the OT. I can even bring the meat if we can locate a grill (oy vey I am just waiting for the re-writes on that one).
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 4:29 PM
well and truly said, Montrose.
Posted by: bxgrl at April 30, 2009 4:31 PM
Kens, Rob got the meat. Just be ready to eat.
how's that?
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 4:31 PM
sixyear, definitely. Tonight I am going out for Thirsty Thursday but prolly not to Sycamore.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 4:31 PM
What, basta, in Italian, means "enough."
Finito, also in Italian, means "finished, the end." Basta finito is basically, 'nuff said. Nothing more.
Trust me, if I was going to curse you out, I can do it quite well in English, not to mention a couple other languages. Kindly look it up next time, instead of assuming that I'm like you, and am looking for an easy way to insult someone.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at April 30, 2009 4:33 PM
M4L good one! I like.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 4:34 PM
same here Rob - keep me posted as to your availability. I'm down.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 30, 2009 4:35 PM
Rob, can't say for sure, but I'd bet some of those shacks on your roof used to be homes for breeding and/or racing pigeons. If you want to read more, you can start here: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=990CE1DA1E31E033A2575AC0A9629C946197D6CF
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/16/nyregion/they-don-t-brake-for-statues-racing-pigeons-hurry-home-to-brooklyn-at-55-mph.html
Posted by: vinca at April 30, 2009 4:35 PM
Nicely put MM, as usual, you have 'a gift'.
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 4:40 PM
6 years, that post it policy is stupid beyond belief. I'm not surprised at all they came up with it.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at April 30, 2009 4:41 PM
ooooh thanks vinca ill look at that, seems interesting. you could be right, but i remember looking up my building on property shark (i think that site..) where it gives you a run down of any and all construction work that was done on a specific building and there were some things on it that mentioned roof top additions and combining apartments. my building seems very big on combining apartments. they are in the process of combining two now.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 4:41 PM
6YRS, Student work is called "product". As if it's for sale. Sounds like the quality reviewer is getting kick backs from 3M!
Posted by: DeLepp at April 30, 2009 4:42 PM
"I can even bring the meat if we can locate a grill"
"Kens, Rob got the meat. Just be ready to eat."
-M4L's pathetic attempt at a re-write
M4L, I'm sorry, but this does not qualify as a re-write. You have to use the majority of the words used in the original sentence. A re-write is a twist a play on words. Yours is just a comeback.
Try again sweetheart.
Sheesh.....Amateurs!!!!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 4:48 PM
that doesnt even make sense, the post it thing. what if they fall off? post its are notoriously unreliable forms of communication. also what's to stop a student from putting their own post its on it to show their parents? im not a green freak, but it seems awfully ungreen to me and a waste of money. are they getting kick backs from the Post It organization.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 4:50 PM
Just read the under a million thread. I predict 11217's return next week under a new name. Any suggestions? How about blonde_wig?
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at April 30, 2009 4:50 PM
Three SNAPS your way from BRG, m4l.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 4:51 PM
"I can even bring the meat if we can locate a grill"
BRG, like this?
"I can even spring my meat if we can locate a girl"
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 4:51 PM
Maybe a few girls but certainly no "ladies" on here, Biff.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 4:53 PM
Bravo Biff...now he's the re-write king!
M4L...read it and learn!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 4:54 PM
11217 blogacides every couple of weeks in a big huff. then he dusts off his park slope pom poms and gets right back in the game. he's a trooper!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 4:54 PM
I think you're being harsh on m4l given his immigrant status.
(Biffs from Canada, m4l)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 4:56 PM
Don't worry, folks, nobody will actually follow the post-it policy, so the quality reviewer won't be getting his kickbacks from us!
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at April 30, 2009 4:57 PM
6yrs, give 11217 some credit. I doubt he would come back under a new ID. I predict he'll be back.
BRG,
me immigrant didn't know those were the rules for re-writes
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 4:59 PM
Biff... genius.
Posted by: Kensingtonian at April 30, 2009 5:01 PM
And BRG gets a bit bossy at times.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 5:01 PM
haha Rob - blogacide!!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 30, 2009 5:02 PM
M4L...how long have you been around the OT?? You should have picked up the re-write rules.
Geez, you really have to train these emigrates!!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 5:02 PM
"11217 blogacides every couple of weeks in a big huff. then he dusts off his park slope pom poms and gets right back in the game. he's a trooper!"
Rob, your a hoot!!!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 5:03 PM
Kens, settle down there. Let's not use the G word on the spot like that.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 5:04 PM
BRG, R U my wife? sounds exactly like her
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 5:05 PM
Cobblehiller, I think it was very below the belt, but I love 11217. I think all of you are so interesting, even the What. It has become such a weird community here, racism, side conversations and gay potential bbqs included! I am sad to see him go if he does leave. DIBS, get in here and make him come back. People, this is why I love Brooklyn, because you won't find this crazy mix of nutjobs (including me) in any other place. Hey, DIBS, what does your place look like. I am tired of all the attacks on you for supporting real estate. Can we have a frank conversation about your pretty backyard. Real estate is like jewels to me, one person might think its junk and another might pay billions for it shining. And so what!
Posted by: LincolnSlope at April 30, 2009 5:06 PM
Yes, Kens. Let's raise the bar a bit for the "genius" monicker.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 5:06 PM
m4l...did you marry an American woman??? Big mistake.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 5:07 PM
When 11217 makes his inevitable return, everyone should just agree with all of his comments, in the most syrupy exaggerated terms possible.
That would really piss him off (if / when he realizes), and be more fun than actually arguing.
Posted by: etson at April 30, 2009 5:08 PM
haha i made him snap.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 30, 2009 5:10 PM
Thanks for the yard compliment. The daffodils are all up, the apple tree is in blossom and everything non evergreen has just leafed out.
Yes, you're right. i actually care very little what direction the market is going the next year or two and just love real estate...talking about it, looking at the HOTD porn (or not), etc, etc, etc. I think 11217 is mosatly that way as well.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 5:10 PM
DIBS, I found out too late there's no hassle-free return policies on the wife. Father in-law wouldn't take her back and said "she's all your's now"
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 5:11 PM
he's either reading this thread right now or he's out at the park slapping around some nannies.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 30, 2009 5:12 PM
DH, I think you did. Also, can we all just buy some 'Tussin and get over the Swine Flu. Enough with the bacon fever already.
Posted by: LincolnSlope at April 30, 2009 5:12 PM
DH, you still young so I forgive you. Lesson to be learned today is you hold back the "finishing blows" when you know there's no other opponents out there. Now, who's around to counter-punch with? We now run risk of needing to spar with each other
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 5:13 PM
m4l..that's why I'm wondering why all these gays are adamant about gay marriage. I'm not sure they've seriously considered what they're asking for. :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 5:14 PM
LOL!!!
OMG Rob...you're killing me today!!!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 5:14 PM
Lincolnslope- that's a first. Nutjob is now a compliment! :-) But i have to agree. We're a pretty strange, but interesting bunch. Welcome to the psych ward!
Posted by: bxgrl at April 30, 2009 5:15 PM
Cool DIBS. If one day we randomly meet at Excelsior you will have to invite me over to see it! :)
Posted by: LincolnSlope at April 30, 2009 5:15 PM
"Also, can we all just buy some 'Tussin and get over the Swine Flu"
"Tussin...I love it. ROTFLMMFAO
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 5:15 PM
"Kens, settle down there. Let's not use the G word on the spot like that."
Re-write:
Kens, settle down there. Let's not use the G spot on the bird like that.
(ok, admittedly that re-write works best in England)
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 5:16 PM
LincolnSlope...I didn't know you were of similar persuasion. STATS...come on give 'em up....
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 5:18 PM
DH - yah, it was you that sent 11217 over the edge
he will be back - he enjoys the blog too much and I like him! - he stuck up for me in some inane silliness awhile back about PLG houses or nabes or something. the comment though about the umemployed was below the belt and wrong though!
Rob - youre too much! - hahahah
CH - I think that dish is called something else in Greece - it's escaping me now
Posted by: gemini10 at April 30, 2009 5:18 PM
Yesterday I found one of the funniest websites:
http://devilsdaughterinlaw.blogspot.com/
She re- tells nightmarish stores about her Mother in law. The best is "Some guy touch your boob get over it"
You'll literally laugh out loud.
Me, I'm lucky as all get out. My MIL is incredible. She's hysterical, crazy and something straight from a movie. I adore her nd she adores me. So long as her son does. Then I think I'll be stabbed repeatedly and buried. but until then...
Posted by: TownhouseLady at April 30, 2009 5:18 PM
boo - bring it m4L!!
his hatred for williamsburg and everyone in it is mind boggling!
i always thought 11217 and I were on "friendly" terms even though we've had some spirited debates. he defintely had his panties in a bunch today about something.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 30, 2009 5:19 PM
Okay, I'm back after a couple of hours meeting with a builder.
Looking at a new kitchen, new bathroom, new glass roof on the conservatory (all low-to-mid range stuff but with nice finishes) and knocking out a load-bearing wall.
Who wants to take a guess on what the estimate is going to come out at?
Posted by: the chicken at April 30, 2009 5:20 PM
Help, I can't keep up!
Posted by: mopar at April 30, 2009 5:21 PM
LS, I don't mind when 11217 gets feisty, it's generally pretty entertaining, but I'm not sure it's in a way that he intends/would like. That is to say it's amusing but not in a flattering way for him. He denigrates himself with his own behavior. That's fine that he likes the 'sport' of argument, but then he needs to be "sporting". It's when he makes it personal that it gets my back up. No reason to go where he goes at times.
There are a lot of interesting, smart, funny and cool people on this site. Enjoy it, enjoy intellectual argument. Enjoy the banter. I actually used to trade a few fun comments with him a long time ago. But he turned on me, rather viciously, one day, fortunately for me a few of the usual suspects stepped in and stuck up for me and thrashed him a bit. I really stepped 'in it' that time. I learned to avoid him [and others], and have done so pretty well until today. I knew he'd jump all over me, but I did it anyway, I said what I think and feel. None of us are perfect, and certainly not me. He baited me. I'm no sucker. I can and will stand up for myself.
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 5:22 PM
"m4l...did you marry an American woman??? Big mistake.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 5:07 PM"
Now you tell me - 15 years too late....
Posted by: the chicken at April 30, 2009 5:22 PM
touch=touched
Posted by: TownhouseLady at April 30, 2009 5:22 PM
I'm 28, gym it up, run, and work a lot. And post here!
ThL, Love that blog! HA
Posted by: LincolnSlope at April 30, 2009 5:23 PM
Though I taunted 11217 a few comments ago, I must say I enjoy his presence, as he spices things up a bit. It would be mighty boring around here if we were all in agreement all the time.
Nevertheless, for some real disagreement, I still prefer sebb!
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at April 30, 2009 5:23 PM
"touched" as in "Like A Virgin?"
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 5:24 PM
I'm guessing 75k
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 5:25 PM
THL, that site is a hoot.
"Four years later, the woman tries to tell me about the vacations she wants to bring my daughter on. Can you say hell no?!"
Funny!
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 5:25 PM
Biff, I was waiting for someone to re-write that...these other guys aren't as sharp....Not quick on the take. Unless you tell them there's a re-write potential, they don't see it.
Like I said Ameteurs!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 5:25 PM
White, black, latin, asian??
53, 5'9", 145, 33" waist, S&P hair (mostly S), like to...oooppps, never mind.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 5:26 PM
"Though I taunted 11217 a few comments ago, I must say I enjoy his presence, as he spices things up a bit. It would be mighty boring around here if we were all in agreement all the time."
I agree - WTF did I say though initially?!
this has me all fired up - singapore slings at walter crackfoods tonight for sure.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 30, 2009 5:26 PM
"fortunately for me a few of the usual suspects stepped in and stuck up for me and thrashed him a bit"
cobble, you can always "thrust" the usual suspects to have your back.
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 5:27 PM
Without knowing all the dfetails I'll guess $120k.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 5:27 PM
M4L, sorry! We may have cut into some of your lively lunchtime reading!
Rob, that was hysterical! I have to say I liked mopar's kicking homeless people comment, too!
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 5:28 PM
"cobble, you can always "thrust" the usual suspects to have your back."
That's what I'm afraid of Biff! : )
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 5:29 PM
Yeah, that sounds like it could be like $100k. Also, that quote will DEF go up! For sure. DIBS, L/italian. And you are ridiculous.
Posted by: LincolnSlope at April 30, 2009 5:30 PM
OK...headed home...be back on in 40 minutes.
Play nice.
Lincoln we should definitely have a drink and I'll show you my yard. :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 5:31 PM
"cobble, you can always "thrust" the usual suspects to have your back."
Why YOU!!!!!
[raising my hand in a fist]
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 5:32 PM
What was the ridiculous comment???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 30, 2009 5:32 PM
DH, switching topic a little. if you just want to live in a solid & spacious bldg for cheap, keep an eye out for those hi-rise coops in clinton hill (ie along willoughby ave, hall st, lafayette ave). am starting to see occasionally 1 bdrms units (700-800 sq ft) going for 250k-270k. maint is ~500-600/month. It aint RE eye candy but it's cheap & spacious. You'll see them when you browse craigslist or streeteasy
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 5:33 PM
"Lincoln we should definitely have a drink and I'll show you my yard. :)"
Is that the modern day equivalent of the "let me show you my etchings" line?
Posted by: Biff Champion at April 30, 2009 5:34 PM
THL, that site is a riot...THANKS, saved it as a favorite and will read more later.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 5:37 PM
Etchings? HA, maybe back in '76 in junior high.
DIBS, your "into" comment. Classic. Not very brownstonerish!
Posted by: LincolnSlope at April 30, 2009 5:38 PM
Biff, did BRG's "ameteurs" spelled correctly - in 5:25pm post? Me immigrant wants to know.
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 5:38 PM
thanks m4l - are those the same buildlings as the clinton hill co-ops?
if so - yeah the outside isn't much to look at but the layout look great and looks like they get alot of sun.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 30, 2009 5:38 PM
You are all waaaaaaaaaay off....
Posted by: the chicken at April 30, 2009 5:40 PM
Chicken, it can't be more than 120K...if it is, you're getting ripped off.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 5:42 PM
i know there's some stuff out there - i'm just hesitant as this isn't really monopoly money for me - made through selling another property - if i buy and the market drops even 10% it'll sting a bit!
but then again, i know i won't be moving anytime soon, so it really shouldn't matter as long term things will be okay. it's just hard!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 30, 2009 5:42 PM
Good views from a lot of the CH co-ops as well.
Posted by: etson at April 30, 2009 5:42 PM
DH, those are not the clinton hill coops - worst looking but equally solid. the ones I'm talking about are 2 set of coops - 1 closer to myrtle ave and willoughby and the other is dekalb & lafayette ave. Both are off Hall St / St James Pl. Again, no eye candy but good bang for the buck.
No rush, prices aint going anywhere but down. Keep eye on it and if you see some price at fire sale, then think about it
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 5:43 PM
"Chicken, it can't be more than 120K...if it is, you're getting ripped off.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 5:42 PM"
Waaaaaaaaaaaay off.....the other way....
Posted by: the chicken at April 30, 2009 5:44 PM
DH, just focus on what I said in other thread - keep the job (1st priority), save up, maintain good credit score
while you wait out the mkt, watch for anamolies - ie I've seen twice during this past yr a nice solid 1 bedrm unit at the clinton hill coops listed & sold ~250k. believe both times were distress sellers
Posted by: more4less at April 30, 2009 5:47 PM
Chicken,
Just noticed this one got a px cut but probably needs more based on your previous comments:
http://www.marykayg.com/html/0531.html
Posted by: etson at April 30, 2009 5:47 PM
okay in that case...I'll play along:
"new kitchen, new bathroom, new glass roof on the conservatory and a load-bearing wall."
Let's see...my guess low-mid end reno 50K, maybe a bit lower.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 5:48 PM
Thanks m4L - i'm defnitely no real estate snob and will defnitely keep an eye on those. thanks for the pointers!
i'm outta here - have a pleasant evening all!
Posted by: dirty_hipster at April 30, 2009 5:48 PM
Yeah, $100 to $120K and then there will be astonishing add-ons as the builder discovers plumbing you already knew was there!
Posted by: mopar at April 30, 2009 5:51 PM
Have a good one DH!
Posted by: cobblehiller at April 30, 2009 5:51 PM
wait, hold on....when you said "new glass roof on the conservatory"
Is there something there now and you're replacing it or are you adding a root top addition, breaking thru, with structural work and adding staircase. If that's the case then I need to raise my estimate.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 5:52 PM
Good night all!
Posted by: mopar at April 30, 2009 5:52 PM
"Chicken,
Just noticed this one got a px cut but probably needs more based on your previous comments:
http://www.marykayg.com/html/0531.html
Posted by: etson at April 30, 2009 5:47 PM"
That was the other open house we saw the day that we saw you. It's a bit bigger than the other one we saw but not nearly as charming - lost a lot of it's character.
Posted by: the chicken at April 30, 2009 5:53 PM
"Let's see...my guess low-mid end reno 50K, maybe a bit lower.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 5:48 PM"
Right direction.....keep going...
wait, hold on....when you said "new glass roof on the conservatory"
Is there something there now and you're replacing it or are you adding a root top addition, breaking thru, with structural work and adding staircase. If that's the case then I need to raise my estimate.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 5:52 PM
No stairs - it's just an outhouse/utility room that I'm going to incorporate into the rest of the house so needs insulation and a nice glass roof to replace the current make-shift one there at the mo and let in more light.
Posted by: the chicken at April 30, 2009 5:57 PM
Thanks Chicken. I can't go this weekend anyway. Still thinking it will be more like the end of the year before I get a place (for lots of reasons).
I owe you guys dinner (or at least pizza) when you are back.
Posted by: etson at April 30, 2009 5:57 PM
Good night all!
Posted by: mopar at April 30, 2009 5:52 PM
G'night John-boy!
Posted by: the chicken at April 30, 2009 5:59 PM
Lower than 50K?????? Who's building this? Chickens?
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 6:00 PM
Thanks Chicken. I can't go this weekend anyway. Still thinking it will be more like the end of the year before I get a place (for lots of reasons).
I owe you guys dinner (or at least pizza) when you are back.
Posted by: etson at April 30, 2009 5:57 PM
You and me both, my friend. Patience is the key...
Posted by: the chicken at April 30, 2009 6:02 PM
Chicken what's the magic #?
I gotta run soon and I'm curious to know.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 6:06 PM
"Lower than 50K?????? Who's building this? Chickens?
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 30, 2009 6:00 PM"
Well I'm hoping for it to come in sub-$30k (using an exchange rate of 1.5) as we were talking about $40-45k including a second bathroom.
And that is for some proper guys doing it - it would be closer to $22k if I used a cowboy contractor that I know of.
I think it's very interesting to compare the contracting rates between London and NY for what are otherwise fairly comparable-cost cities. I may have to fly these boys over to do the work when I eventually get a house in Brooklyn...
Posted by: the chicken at April 30, 2009 6:12 PM
OK I know everybody's gone to sleep but did you see *this*? Cops stopping people in East New York just because it's a high crime area -- and only 10 percent actually get arrested. Now....I'm in favor of stopping crime, but that sounds madly unfair to me.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/01/nyregion/01frisk.html?ref=nyregion
Posted by: mopar at April 30, 2009 10:15 PM
Here's a cowboy story for you: My landlady paid $2,000 (labor) for her contractor to install a new kitchen, refinish the floors, and paint my apartment.
The apartment is probably 800 square feet, and the kitchen is a galley side kitchen but the work involved installing about nine linear feet of cabinets, granite tile counter and backsplash with contrast tile, and a tile floor. Painting included contrast trim.
Talk about a deal. Half the grout fell out a week later, and six months later the floors have no more polyurethane on them.
Kitchen still looks pretty good though.
Isn't that a crazy price? Poor contractor, he must be more than half way to the poor house by now.
Posted by: mopar at April 30, 2009 10:23 PM
And she'll probably keep our $2,000 security deposit when we move -- on account of the missing polyurethane, which is entirely her fault -- and make back all the money.
Posted by: mopar at April 30, 2009 10:24 PM
mopar, that sounds about right by London standards if you're not paying a middleman although depends how much prep work involved for the painting.
remove old kitchen - 1/2 day
install new kitchen - 1 day (add 1/2 day if carcasses need building up)
tiling and prep - 1 day
painting prep, undercoat and topcoat - 4 days
Total = 1 week
The grouting problem is because he used cheap grout and not enough of it - which is stupid because even the good stuff is fairly cheap and no more difficult to use the right amount.
He's chosen the wrong PU sealer or applied it incorrectly - again would not have cost much more to do it right.
Sounds like he was a general labourer that needed a bit of direction. Day rate of $250 x 7 = $1,750. Add in another day of contingency and you are there. Not good if you are paying taxes on it but not bad for cash in hand.
Posted by: the chicken at May 1, 2009 3:40 AM
Very interesting, chicken, about the costs and the grout.
Don't forget the floors. Maybe a day to sand and put down the first coat, then two more days to put down more coats and dry? He was late and in a rush so he put down only one coat as far as I know, then covered the whole thing with paper before it was dry so we could move in the next day.
I've been quoted $2,000 just to do polyurethane, I've never heard of anyone installing a whole kitchen for less than $2,000 (but now that I think of it, maybe that included all the materials), and I've certainly met a lot of painters who would like to think they should get $2,000 to paint an 800-sf apt.
Posted by: mopar at May 1, 2009 9:16 AM
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