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April 1, 2009
House of the Day: 213 Berkeley Place

This four-story brownstone at 213 Berkeley Place in Park Slope is a beauty, no doubt about it. The period vibe on the parlor floor also works nicely, we think, and doesn't come off as too over-the-top. The backyard is simple but attractive. There's also a garden-level rental to take the edge off the mortgage you will likely need given the asking price of $2,475,000. We'll be surprised if they get full price in this market, but suspect that within 10 percent of it is not out of the question. You?
213 Berkeley Place [Brown Harris Stevens] GMAP P*Shark
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This will be a real test of my theory that prime block park slope brownstones will hold up better than other properties. I think the sale price will start with a 2. It would not surprise me if the price is within 10% of ask.
Posted by: lechacal at April 1, 2009 1:21 PM
Jeez, the renter's bedroom looks pretty unappealing. Otherwise nice, I guess, though that living room looks like it was designed to stifle all possibility of ever allowing anyone to do anything remotely resembling fun.
Posted by: toadie at April 1, 2009 1:30 PM
I agree with you Lechacal...this will be a good test. I really like the look of this house, and last year, this would have been listed at 2.8 at a minimum.
A house two doors down from here was asking 2.75 last year and sold for 2.45 last year and needed to be gutted (it actually IS being gutted as we speak).
It's a handsome block, that's for darn sure. ;-)
Posted by: 11217 at April 1, 2009 1:31 PM
Great location, and fantastic detail in the first two photos, but the kitchen is dated and hideous, and the back yard is bare and uninviting. Without seeing what the rest of the place looks like, can't really come to a conclusion - but I'm guessing if the rest were really gorgeous enough to justify the price, there'd be more photos.
Posted by: geekspice at April 1, 2009 1:33 PM
I agree...the backyard does need a little sprucing up it looks like, but also notice how the trees behind this block are quite large/mature and provide quite a lot of privacy and greenery...
Posted by: 11217 at April 1, 2009 1:36 PM
great locale
but this house is sooo not my cup of tea and that kitchen is dreadful
am sure the backyard is nice when it's spring and summer
I think it will get 2mill
Posted by: gemini10 at April 1, 2009 1:39 PM
Thought the pics were charming until getting to the kitchen. Do people really pay over $2MM with kitchens that awful? Also, not sure what's going on withe the third bedroom on the top floor, 6' wide?!?
Posted by: CG_ups at April 1, 2009 1:41 PM
Ha....never heard this one before...
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As the Landmarks Preservation Commission sees it "Berkeley Place is one of the most handsome residential streets in the District."
I agree...handsome is an appropriate word.
I'm biased though.
Posted by: 11217 at April 1, 2009 1:43 PM
Horrible design. Would be much better as double duplex with internal stairs, all that wasted space otherwise. Tiny kitchen, tiny renter's bedroom.
Posted by: cmu at April 1, 2009 1:43 PM
Any idea what the square footage is? Property Shark says 4416, but that doesn't make sense (20.5 x 42 = 861 x 4 =3444).
Posted by: Stuart at April 1, 2009 1:47 PM
A good solid house in the prime slope (I'm waiting for some idiot to write that this is a fringe location because it is too far from Fifth Avenue)
So how much for a good haute-bourgeoise house?
I say 1.9 in today's market. It does need some spiffying up.
the purple parlor does no one any favors, but it is a lovely, solid house. I hope it sells. Otherwise we are all doomed.
Posted by: sam at April 1, 2009 1:52 PM
OOPS! I mistankenly typed 19 milllion in the widget instead of one point nine million.
...desculpar por favor....
Posted by: sam at April 1, 2009 1:55 PM
Sam - that's ok b/c I typed in 200K instead of 2 million
Posted by: gemini10 at April 1, 2009 1:58 PM
I normally love the more period houses like this one, but this house gave me a major case of the blahs... blah, small extension - the bedroom must be tiny on the ground floor (plus it faces your yard, so all your dinners and bbqs are going to be right in your tenants face). Kitchen is dreadful, and no real room to improve without encroaching on the dining room and really changing the parlor floor around. Plus, the house is narrow to begin with and the hall / stairs take up a full third of the width, leaving mostly 12' wide rooms. The parlor floor consequently looks long and dark...
Can't say will it'll go for... maybe between $2M and $2.2, but I certainly wouldn't pay that for it (even if I could).
Overall - eh.
Posted by: Gravy at April 1, 2009 2:00 PM
I think it would be cool if the widget recorded each username/corresponding appraisal. When you revist when sold, the closest appraiser could get some sort of praise...
Posted by: pickles at April 1, 2009 2:04 PM
11217, yeah, great block, if you don't have what it takes to be on Berkeley b/w 6th and 7th. ;)
Between Mr. Wonton, Ace, the asian grocer with the great fresh cilantro, the runner's shop, the Mexican place, the awesome dry cleaner that always addresses me by "Mr [insert last name]" and 7th Ave wines and liquors I think that intersection is pretty damn awesome.
Posted by: lechacal at April 1, 2009 2:05 PM
i think someone is screwing around with the appraisal widget. the distribution roughly follows a bell curve as one would expect, except there is an outlying cluster of 7 or 8 estimates around $1.5mm. someone may be using multiple logins to drive the average down.
Posted by: z at April 1, 2009 2:10 PM
the widget should allow for a do-over.
Posted by: sam at April 1, 2009 2:12 PM
p.s. i like pickles' idea of keeping score.
Posted by: z at April 1, 2009 2:12 PM
Agree with M. Jackal, should be a good test. If it doesn't get at least $2 million, I'm going to have to take yet another write-down on my place.
Posted by: FatLenny at April 1, 2009 2:13 PM
Beautiful place, awesome location ... I don't think they're going to have to hold a fire sale on this one. I think Sam's about right at 1.9mm, but could even see it going for like 2.2.
I'm curious how many times I've probably walked by 11217 or lechacal at the asian grocery or ace without knowing it was them. :P
Posted by: cwbuecheler at April 1, 2009 2:14 PM
I thought the same thing the other night when I was at Ace CW. I'm in there or the Korean Grocer a couple hundred times a week, it seems like.
Posted by: 11217 at April 1, 2009 2:18 PM
cwb: Well I'm easy to spot. Bald guy in a suit buying tonic water at Ace, limes at the asian grocer and gin at 7th Ave wines and liquors.
Posted by: lechacal at April 1, 2009 2:18 PM
Ha!
And I'm the one buying ginger ale at Ace, Jameson at 7th Ave wine and liquors and spinach at the Korean Grocer.
Posted by: 11217 at April 1, 2009 2:21 PM
QUOTE:
I'm curious how many times I've probably walked by 11217 or lechacal at the asian grocery or ace without knowing it was them. :P
11217 is easy to spot. he's the one with the I Heart Park Slope belly shirt
*r*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 1, 2009 2:30 PM
"11217 is easy to spot. he's the one with the I Heart Park Slope belly shirt"
OMG....LOL!!!
That is brilliant, Rob.
House not so brilliant.
Why didn't they put the kitchen where the bedroom is on the garden level? And make the kitchen the living room and the living room the bedroom?
Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 1, 2009 2:35 PM
I say 2.2
Posted by: broker at April 1, 2009 2:47 PM
It's a stunner, and looks exactly like the Eastlake featured in "Bricks and Brownstones" except with different paint.
You could do a lot with the paint.
Y'all are complaining about the tiny kitchen, but this layout has the advantage of having all the entertaining rooms on one floor.
I wonder, though: Is the tenant's bathroom really accessed from the hall? That is incredibly inconvenient. But you could add a door.
Posted by: mopar at April 1, 2009 2:56 PM
This will be a good test.
I'm not voting though as I have no idea about prices here.
Posted by: mopar at April 1, 2009 2:58 PM
I think the layout is near perfect.
Posted by: mopar at April 1, 2009 2:58 PM
I don't know why everyone is so obsessed with the appearance of the kitchen. Have real estate brokers actually convinced you all that slapping up a bunch of new stainless steel appliances adds that much value? I generally avoid newly renovated kitchens becaue I know I will have to pay a large multiple of the actual cost. And I more heavily discount the price on any real estate listing that includes brand names of kitchen appliances. A kitchen is just a place to cook. I cook a lot (often times with fresh cilantro from the asian grocer, in fact) in a kitchen that most of you would pretend to be appalled by. And not once have I noticed that I'm not using a Subzero or Wolf or Fisher & Paykel or whatever. What I DO notice is that I don't have as much space as I want, I only have one bathroom and I live in a walk-up. Those things matter. But my lack of stainless steel appliances? I just don't care. This is an amazing property in an amazing location. This is obsession with the superficial appearance of the kitchen just sounds....well, cheap and classless, to be a bit blunt. It's like you're looking at a rolls royce and you're pretending to be appalled by the lack of shiny rims or something.
Posted by: lechacal at April 1, 2009 3:10 PM
As another Berkeley Place resident, I'll add to the praise for this location! (HOTD could be better, though.)
Posted by: Park Sloper at April 1, 2009 3:11 PM
The only thing I'd do to the kitchen, is slap up some new blinds instead of those curtains. The rest of it is more than adequate. I love the cabinets, in fact. I might change the hardware. Per usual, I agree with Lechacal.
Posted by: 11217 at April 1, 2009 3:18 PM
I'd much rather buy a place with a crappy kitchen than a place with a brand new kitchen. Every show on HGTV points out over and over that spending $10k on a kitchen adds like $30k to the price of the house ... why, then, would you want to buy a place with an already-remodeled kitchen when you know you're paying 3x what it'd cost to do it after you moved in?
Posted by: cwbuecheler at April 1, 2009 3:35 PM
Oh, and I'm the guy in his early thirties wearing a ralph lauren leather jacket that's falling apart, carrying a canvas messenger bag, and buying ... basically anything with alcohol in it. And probably a diet root beer. :P
Posted by: cwbuecheler at April 1, 2009 3:40 PM
cwb: Exactly. I fail to understand why people fall for properties with a bunch of new brand-name kitchen appliances and a huge price hike to go with them. Brokers love to write about that crap in their listings. Makes me gag.
I used to own a house in the suburbs. Really nice big brick house on a couple of acres of some leafy Connecticut suburb. The kitchen was pretty dated and there were a few totally superficial things wrong with the carpeting in a couple of places. I figured anyone who was going to buy a place like that would be able to see through stuff like that. I had a few open houses, and everyone complained about how crappy the fridge looked and how there were spots on the carpets on the basement stairs. So I went to the local appliance store and dropped about a thousand bucks or so (maybe less, can't remember exaclty) for the fridge. Free installation. Then I went to Loew's and dropped about fifteen bucks on a little 3 foot by 10 foot piece of carpet and replaced the carpeting on the stairs by myself. Result? No more complaints, offer, brief negotiation, and sold. And do you know what happened between the first open houses and when we did all of this? The blowup of the two Bear hedge funds in the summer of '07 and the first major collapse of the mortgage market.
Most people just aren't very smart.
Posted by: lechacal at April 1, 2009 4:00 PM
Thank you CWB and Lechacal! I always say I don't want to pay top dollar for someone elses choices.
Maybe we're the minority. I think most don't want to have to do anything when they move into a home.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at April 1, 2009 4:08 PM
Brownstoner:
I have family who've lived on this block for decades. They'll leave it only feet first.
They've been in Park Slope so long (generations, in fact) that their definition of the neighborhood is Grand Army Plaza to Third Street, Prospect Park West to Seventh Avenue.
Anything beyond that -- to them -- is "risky."
It's interesting to hear how the neighborhood's epicenter has shifted over the years.
Fifth Avenue, to my grandparents, was South Brooklyn -- and beyond their imagination.
Two-and-a-half million for this house?
It's still a lot cheaper than the triplex penthouse in my Manhattan building, which I'd consider a "comp." (It has three terraces and a big green house.)
But pay millions for anything now?
Not unless the buyer's going to be like my relatives and sit and sit and sit.
Nostalgic on Park Avenue
Posted by: NOP at April 1, 2009 4:11 PM
I think the point of the comments about the kitchen is the seller shouldn't expect to get top dollar for a house that doesn't have a renovated kitchen. I find amusing the way lechacal fabricated complaints about lack of stainless steel. I don't see a single comment about that.
My opinion is that the kitchen looks cheap and dated - the floor tile, the wall tile, the cabinets, and the countertops. A cheap, dated kitchen is not going to help the seller get 2.4MM for this house in this market.
I agree that some (not all)kitchen renos are horrific and leave you wishing the owner had not bothered, but that doesn't erase the fact this this kitchen is damn ugly, esp in a house that has otherwise very visually appealing interiors. And after you've lived through a few kitchen renos, the appeal of imposing your own particularly exquisite taste wears off a bit.
Posted by: geekspice at April 1, 2009 4:13 PM
Lech - I think the point many posters(or at least myself) is trying to make, is that if I am spending upwards into the millions to 2 million the kitchen BETTER be upgraded and fabulous so that when I show my friends and family my house, I am not entertaining out of my cringe worthy outdated, no space having kitchen making humbled apologies of how awful it is.
I'm a cook and I love to entertain so a kitchen especially a reallly nice one draws me in as a buyer, but I could care less about crown moldings and old parlour doors and whatnot.
Clearly a case of "to each their own" - but I wouldn't say I am classless b/c I expect the kitchen to be brand new when I am spending all that money.
Posted by: gemini10 at April 1, 2009 4:13 PM
TownhouseLady, I think that you're definitely on to something. A lot of people don't want to have to deal with major upgrades. I was actually pretty willing to keep looking until we found a townhouse in move-in condition when I bought for my family because I know they didn't want to deal with the hassle of not having access to kitchen/baths etc for a few months. Or having workers coming in and out. For some people, that is a big problem, that certainly doesn't make them stupid, as lechecal seems to think.
Posted by: CG_ups at April 1, 2009 4:15 PM
Lechacal, I love your story and have one just like it. My dad was selling a place in Palo Alto during the 1989 downturn. It was in perfect condition. It sat on the market a year with no offers. So on the advice of a real estate agent, he replaced the existing high-quality carpet and paint job with new, ultra-cheap but blinding white ones. Got several bids and the place sold in three days. Ridiculous!
Posted by: mopar at April 1, 2009 4:17 PM
of course I havent been in the house and only looking at same kitchen pic as the other but maybe I don't have some big screen computer with super resolution.
But to me, although the kitchen may not be the trendiest taste, it looks very new, the cabinets may be cherry and looking at the # of cabinet space I don't think was cheap.
Maybe darker countertops would have been more dramatic but still looks new. Can't really tell what is material.
Layout is great....sink, stove refridge triangle, All very close and easy. Dishwasher also.
I think many of the folks that have such a problem with it only look at magazines and don't really use kitchen except to warm something or to show off.
But those stainless steel, etc look is the look that will be 'dated' in a few years because is too too too common.
Great layout, great block, area, etc.
Unless the owners don't care or are in real hurry - they'd be fools to sell for much less than asking.
I don't like their color choices - but only neophytes look at that.
Posted by: Petebklyn at April 1, 2009 4:25 PM
I love the fake class outrage of the people defending the kitchen. It's hilarious that people aren't allowed to have personal opinions without some kind of class content being read into it. it's also extremely amusing how the Kitchen Defense Squad feels the need to back up their ad hominem attacks with fabrications. For the record: No one has complained about the lack of stainless steel appliances, nor has anyone complained that the kitchen is not "trendy." How about sticking to what people have actually said, rather than what you think they might have said if they were stereotypes rather than people?
Posted by: geekspice at April 1, 2009 4:31 PM
Prime house in a prime location so yes, this could be a major test of the market. Hard to tell much about the kitchen from the pics. Could be better or worse than it looks. If money were no object, I'd reconfigure the rental with a much smaller central kitchen and add a bedroom in the old kitchen space to create a 2-bed. I'd also move the kitchen into the dining room for a kitchen-cum-family room arrangement ("heart of the house" and all) and make the old kitchen an efficient dining room with a banquette.
Posted by: 1929 at April 1, 2009 4:40 PM
There is nothing wrong with this house that isn't merely cosmetic (such as the paint color) and couldn't be fixed in a day.
For instance, the kitchen cabinets are not ones I would have chosen myself, but they are very expensive and work nicely with the house. The new owner could put in counters and a new floor to their liking. These are minor upgrades that don't take long and don't cost much.
But most people lack the visual imagination to see how a space could easily be altered.
Posted by: mopar at April 1, 2009 4:45 PM
Having to renovate a kitchen is a big downside, in my view. Love kitchens, hate renovations, hate to pay for them on top of a price this high.
Posted by: gussy at April 1, 2009 4:48 PM
Dealing with a bathroom renovation now (which has turned my husband, dog and me into basement dwellers for the present due to the inevitable dust throughout much of the house) and I can understand why an unrenovated kitchen would be a turn off to buyers. On the other hand my tastes are very specific and I imagine that my tune will change once the renovation is completed, with the fixtures and finishes that we picked out ourselves.
I see very few kitchens on this website or even in my rare perusals of design magazines that I wouldn't want to change in some respects. And changing anything in a kitchen usually isn't worth it unless you are redoing the whole thing. This house generaaly looks good, and the kitchen appears functional at least, so it is a project to take on once the buyer is settled in and has saved some money for this purpose (and come up with their design concept). Or do it before renting out the apartment, so that kitchen is available for use. It's much better than having a whole house to renovate.
Posted by: supersleuth at April 1, 2009 4:48 PM
As I mentioned above, there IS a discount on this house for it not being in pristine condition. As I said...a house two doors down sold last year for 2.4 million and was a GUT JOB!
An immaculate home on this block sold for 3.4 million at the height of the market.
I'd say the current price reflects not only the less than perfect kitchen (for some of you) but also the significant economic impact of the last year.
Think of the gut two doors down...they paid 2.4...and by the looks of things have spent 100's of thousands of dollars over the last few months restoring the place...THEY are paying top dollar for a house just like this one...anyone who gets this at 2.2 or below is getting quite a hefty discount from peak.
Posted by: 11217 at April 1, 2009 4:51 PM
You guys are nitpicking. Why does this kitchen need renovation?
Posted by: mopar at April 1, 2009 5:04 PM
I like the kitchen, and I bet the cabs are pretty decent quality...my feeling on kitchens, having moved into our current place knowing the kitchen needed a gut reno (and paying less than comps b/c of it) is that a recent mid-range reno is the minimum that most buyers want.
For foodies, a spectacular, tasteful reno will bring a premium. and for bargain hunters, a crappy old kitchen is like catnip, because a gut kitchen reno sucks to have to live through...
Don't know if a kitchen reno will bring 3X cost. it's pretty hard to spend under 20k in New York on one.
...and I also agree that if a prime park block brownstone in move-in condition sells for under 2 mil, you can probably call it a market trough...
Posted by: Bolder at April 1, 2009 5:19 PM
Exactly, mopar. It doesn't. It's a kitchen. It has all the right kitchen stuff in it and I bet it works just fine. People seem to get distracted by whether there are shiny objects involved and lose sight of the big picture (like the fact that this is a beautiful building with great space on a beautiful block).
Sorry if all of this seems ad hominem. I am feeling somewhat snarky today.
I am leaving early today. I think I might go cook a nice meal in my old-fashioned but totally functional kitchen. I'm guessing the smell of simmering tomato sauce and garlic will be much more important to me than the appearance of the stove I am cooking on.
To add to my snarkiness, have you ever noticed that people with the fanciest kitchens are often the worst cooks (or never really cook at home)?
Posted by: lechacal at April 1, 2009 5:20 PM
Have a nice dinner!
Posted by: mopar at April 1, 2009 5:33 PM
Hey L., I'd like to think I disagree that I am a bad cook altho I have a nice new kitchen :-) We'll have to have a 'stoner cook-off one day.
But I too don't get some of the comments. The kitchen is fairly new, based on the shape of the faucet. I mean, hell, a new kitchen is practically a rounding error on a house this price. Also, if you can afford the house, you can certainly afford to eat out every night for the few weeks while the kitchen is being re-done. And of course being so small, the kitchen reno will be both cheap and fast. The size in fact would be my big complaint, not the finish.
But I'm surprised no one's complained about the laundry on the 4th floor. That's a walk. And we should take out some of those tiny BRs upstairs and increase the bigger ones.
Posted by: denton at April 1, 2009 5:34 PM
"Also, if you can afford the house, you can certainly afford to eat out every night for the few weeks while the kitchen is being re-done."
Funny you say that Denton, because there's a couple I know on this block who eat out EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. Period. They have a rotation of PS restaurants which they frequent every single day of every single week. Nice, huh...?
Never seen their kitchen though.
Posted by: 11217 at April 1, 2009 5:39 PM
Lazy as I am, even I get tired of eating out every night. The restaurants just aren't that good. We've been trying to be good and cook three nights a week, as per Apartment Therapy.
Posted by: mopar at April 1, 2009 5:43 PM
That's the whole point, 11217.
With the money saved on all the kitchen appliances, one can eat out most of the time.
A suggestion: Find one or two good places and eat there frequently (two or more times a week). The chef and staff will love you and comp you something each meal. You'll also be seated before anybody else.
When I was in New York more frequently, I had just such relationships with a circuit of neighborhood places. They were especially useful when hosting out-of-town guests because we'd be whisked past the crowds waiting at the bar.
And another poster was correct. Often the fanciest kitchens go unused. Another suggestion: Instead of blowing five and six figures on a depreciating asset, put the money in art. If it's good it'll grow in value. And you can take it with you when you move!
NOP
Posted by: NOP at April 1, 2009 6:05 PM
"Instead of blowing five and six figures on a depreciating asset, put the money in art."
Great perspective, NOP.
Posted by: mopar at April 1, 2009 6:11 PM
Brownstoner, Allow for commas in the appraisal so mistakes don't happen. I just gave an estimate of 24,000,000 by mistake!!
Posted by: dt at April 1, 2009 6:16 PM
> "Instead of blowing five and six figures on a depreciating
> asset, put the money in art."
About the only tanking worse than the real estate market is the art market.
Posted by: SnarkSlope at April 1, 2009 6:18 PM
Snark Slope:
Not if you buy and hold. Which would be the same advice for anybody buying real estate right now.
Find a curator with a track record (or a friend with a proven collection) and pick up pieces by established or emerging artists.
Art can be quixotic, but it's pleasurable and -- importantly! -- transportable. And it can hide chipped plaster and peeling paint, saving you some dough -- a lesson learned by the Italians hundreds of years ago. (Ever walk into a palazzo where an Italian family lives? It'll likely give Brownstoners heart attacks for all the flaws and imperfections. But for true lovers of the archaic, what a way to live!)
NOP
Posted by: NOP at April 1, 2009 6:34 PM
> "Not if you buy and hold."
Agreed. It's the "flipper" speculative aspect of the market that is taking a bath.
> "Art can be quixotic, but it's pleasurable and -- importantly! -- transportable."
Agreed again. Love your posts, by the way.
Posted by: SnarkSlope at April 1, 2009 6:38 PM
I think the size of the tenant's bedroom is great. I don't do much other than sleep in my bedroom so all I'd need is room for a bed. I'd much rather have the larger space to entertain.
Posted by: nycdelisauce at April 1, 2009 7:00 PM
"About the only tanking worse than the real estate market is the art market."
About the only thing tanking worse than the art market is the wine market!
Posted by: denton at April 1, 2009 8:01 PM
Denton - laundry on top floor is great idea....Do the wash where the clothes closets are. Basement laundry is the trek.
And this is a renovated kitchen...just not to some peoples taste. I don't know how expensive the appliances---only that they are white. I think some people think that stainless steel is quality. I think the food stays just as cold in white and fire on white stove is just as hot. (or low burner too).
The kitchen curtain does have to go.
Knock down $50 on price for that.
Posted by: Petebklyn at April 1, 2009 8:20 PM
Thanks mopar. Dinner was great fun. I started out with some chicken breast (which Mrs. Jackal had defrosted for the kids but never got cooked). I had in my mind that I wanted something involving peanuts or peanut butter. I love cooking with peanut butter. So I chopped up some giner and some garlic and started sauteeing it in some olive oil, then threw in a bunch of dried chili peppers. While that was going I sliced up the chicken breast and added it to the pan. Then I took a jar of peanut butter that was almost empty (it had a couple tablespoons maybe in it) and added some soy sauce to the peanut butter and stirred (so it made kind of a soy sauce peanut butter mix). Then I took a bunch of broccoli and cut it into pieces. Once the chicken-chili-ginger-garlic mix had gone for a few minutes I added the peanut butter and soy sauce mix with a bit of water and the broccoli. I put a top on an let it all simmer for a while. Then I took the top off. The sauce was still pretty watery, so I added some corn starch (mixed in water) to thicken it up. Oh yeah, I forgot, I started the entire thing by cooking up some brown rice (this takes a while so you have to start it first).
So now I'm eating my peanut spicy chicken whatever on brown rice, which is fucking delicious by the way, and guess what - my kitchen has never been renovated. Now let me ask you. Do I really need to spend a hundred thousand dollars more for an apartment just because some jackass dropped a few grand for a couple of shiny new appliances?
Posted by: lechacal at April 1, 2009 8:54 PM
I love having a laundry room in the middle of the house. Right next to the generator of the greatest amount of laundry.
Posted by: guest4 at April 1, 2009 10:18 PM
>"Instead of blowing five and six figures on a depreciating asset, put the money in art."
Yes. In particular, I suggest my art. It's value can only go up.
Posted by: Nomi at April 2, 2009 12:38 AM
>"Instead of blowing five and six figures on a depreciating asset, put the money in art."
Yes. In particular, I suggest my art. Its value can only go up.
Posted by: Nomi at April 2, 2009 12:38 AM
Oh. Oops. In defense of my double post, I was trying to catch it to fix the incorrect apostrophe in "it's." Was too late. But see how it's correct in the second post? So, worth it. At least my mother doesn't have to be ashamed of me.
Posted by: Nomi at April 2, 2009 12:42 AM
Hey, thanks!
Posted by: Nomi at April 2, 2009 1:37 AM
Hilarious, all.
Posted by: mopar at April 2, 2009 4:41 PM

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