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April 3, 2009

Horror Show Friday: 170 Clermont Avenue

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We just love what the developer has done with this this new four-story building at 170 Clermont Avenue. We're dying to pick up one of those little eaves over the doorway for our place and that little nook he carved out to display the lovely Con Ed meters is to die for. And just imagine all the great parties the residents of the upper floors are going to be able to throw on their balconies. It's great to see such creative, innovative design going on in Fort Greene! GMAP P*Shark




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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! That scared the shit out of me!

Comlete tear-down. LPC! Heeeeeeeeeelp!

***Bid half off peak comps***

Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at April 3, 2009 11:33 AM

It's not all that much out of context from what I see. :)

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 3, 2009 11:37 AM

Everything visible in this photo is a horror...well, except for the tree.

Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 3, 2009 11:37 AM

I don't think this building looks bad at all. Go ahead. Pelt me with rocks if you must. It looks a lot better than 'Little Red Siding Hood' to the right.

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 3, 2009 11:40 AM

Hilarious. The developer told the architect in India over the phone we've got a 25*100 lot, create some plans.

Posted by: DeLepp at April 3, 2009 11:43 AM


It's really too bad they didn't consult the worldly wise Mr. Brownstoner before building this house. They might have been saved from such a terrible, terrible error.

Posted by: East New York at April 3, 2009 11:44 AM

nothing wrong with it if owner sells it cheap enough to account for the ugliness. I suspect this is something in the 1.3-1.4M range. I'll buy it for 800k

Posted by: more4less at April 3, 2009 11:44 AM

It's really not that bad... if it was a slightly different color, you probably wouldn't even have noticed it. And this street seems to have those little "eaves" as standard...

And, what if you spent $3 million and built an amazing replica victorian era brownstone in the spot? (Cuz that's what you seem to want BHO) Do you really think that would totally transform this block? It's across the street from a huge tan institutional building... and on a block with working class brick houses, medium-sized apartment building and random crappy houses... crappy in your estimation, they seem fine to me.

If you don't want to bother with Google street view because that too hard... lets just look at the photo above. What is your opinion of the buildings to the left and right of the "complete tear-down"??? These should also probably be torn down eh?

Posted by: tybur6 at April 3, 2009 11:45 AM

GET RID OF THIS THREAD.

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 3, 2009 11:49 AM

> 'Little Red Siding Hood'

Awessome. http://instantrimshot.com/

Posted by: SnarkSlope at April 3, 2009 11:50 AM

I agree Snappy... I shouldn't have engaged.

Posted by: tybur6 at April 3, 2009 11:50 AM

A whole block of fedders buildings might become a tourist attraction.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 3, 2009 11:51 AM

I think the niche for the gas meters is a reference to the coffin niche inside the old brownstones. Very clever of the developers.

Isn't Fort Greene landmarked? At these prices, the builders could afford to make something that would enhance the area. A little vision wouldn't hurt anyone.

Posted by: mopar at April 3, 2009 11:53 AM

You're right it's totally out of context. Instead of balconies it should definitely have fire escapes on the front of the building. Now that would be luxurious!

This is far from the worst we've seen.

My biggest issue is that I just really don't like any of these fancy colored bricks. Never have.

Posted by: TownhouseLady at April 3, 2009 11:54 AM

Here's the Fort Greene Landmark Map...
http://www.nyc.gov/html/lpc/downloads/pdf/maps/ft_greene.pdf

May it never be expanded!

Posted by: tybur6 at April 3, 2009 11:57 AM

there's nothing wrong with this building if owner wasn't asking for "beautiful building" price. If the price was the working man/woman price, nothing wrong with it. But I'm pretty sure this beast is priced north of 1.2M. at that price level, one would expect a better product. At least I do

Posted by: more4less at April 3, 2009 12:00 PM

I think when I see buildings like this my real concern is how well are they built and are they up to code. I know good design is considered relatively unimportant in this kind of development,but when you see the facade and the oddities of placement, you just have to wonder not only what is going on inside but was there a professional who even checked the plans.

Posted by: bxgrl at April 3, 2009 12:04 PM

"GET RID OF THIS THREAD.

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 3, 2009 11:49 AM"

Now you understand my level of frustration.

The What

Someday this war is gonna end...

Posted by: Return of The What at April 3, 2009 12:05 PM

What are you talking about? There's no excuse for a building to look like this. It's about incompetence and ignorance not cost. A good architect could have built a much nicer building for the same price. Instead, the neighborhood now has to live with this POS.

Posted by: brownstoner at April 3, 2009 12:08 PM

Don't get rid of the thread.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 3, 2009 12:09 PM

THL - I'm not a fan of the tan/yellow bricks either. I'm also not a big believer in painted bricks. I like just plain ol' untreated red bricks. That alone would make this building look much better than it does, in my opinion.

Posted by: cwbuecheler at April 3, 2009 12:15 PM

bxgrl is right. If the architecture is "on the cheap" it's a pretty safe bet that the construction and the systems are as well.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 3, 2009 12:15 PM

These type buildings will not be staanding in 50 years...maybe not even 15 in some cases. That's what the real "horror show" is.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 3, 2009 12:16 PM

ditto stoner and bxgrl - even just to design it so the facade features are symmetrical and in balance would have cost $0 additional dollars. and when a building is the product of someone who doesn't give a crap about what you CAN see, there's no way i'm going to assume that everything you CAN'T see is functional or durable (let alone to code!).

Posted by: i disagree at April 3, 2009 12:19 PM

A lot of comments are being made regarding the structural quality of these buildings. How can you be so sure they are not sound? Unless you have an inspection report, it's all conjecture. Maybe an educated guess, but still a guess at the end of the day. How about this, Mr. B., you pay an engineer/inspector to go there and give this building a good once over and report back to us what his/her findings are. Or better yet, how about you post a pic of *your* house, interior and exterior so we can pick apart your landscaping, front door color, furnishing choices, kitchen table placement, etc.

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 3, 2009 12:23 PM

No way is this better than the red siding next door. This is hideous!

Posted by: mksk at April 3, 2009 12:32 PM

"A good architect could have built a much nicer building for the same price."

Certainly! Instead, they hired an architect of whom you do not approve, who built something you do not like, something that clearly could have been "nicer." Hey, why don't you just take a walk all around all of Brooklyn, figure out which buildings could have been built "nicer," and don't look like you think they should, take photos, POST the photos, and make fun of the buildings. That way, EVERYONE could join with Mr. Brownstoner in hating on buildings that don't meet his aesthetic standards. What fun!

Posted by: East New York at April 3, 2009 12:33 PM

Snappy,
We spent a whole year posting photos of the renovation of our house. Go to town:
http://www.brownstoner.com/renovations/

Posted by: brownstoner at April 3, 2009 12:35 PM

Thanks Mr. B. Now, about hiring that engineer/inspector....

Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at April 3, 2009 12:37 PM

I think this weekly feature and think it should be kept. It's provocative on a number of levels:

Are aesthetics merely personal taste? Is complaining about how a building fits into a neighborhood really elitist? Is affordable housing held to a different standard? What's good, what's ugly? As a designer, this conversation interests me.

I appreciate that b-stoner has opinions on this and takes developers to task. The buildings are here for a LONG time, there absolutely should be a debate about how they affect neighborhoods and streetscapes.

Posted by: squaredrive at April 3, 2009 12:37 PM

ENY,
Fail to see your logic. Because there are a lot of crappy buildings we should give a pass to the folks who keeping putting them up? Not sure if you noticed but real estate and architecture are two of the central topics of this blog so, no, we're not going keep quiet while philistines destroy the urban landscape. Sorry. No one's forcing you to read.

Posted by: brownstoner at April 3, 2009 12:37 PM

We didn't say anything about the structural quality of the building. Our comments were strictly about the design. The Department of Buildings is supposed to be paying attention to the structural elements though since they have no power over aesthetics.

Posted by: brownstoner at April 3, 2009 12:40 PM

nobody's sure they're not sound. it IS conjecture, and that's the point. if someone clearly doesn't give a crap about the exterior, why assume they gave a crap about the interior? and you're naive if you think and engineer/inspection report is going to uncover all the other shortcuts and/or stupid choices they made. that said, if they're charging $150K for each of these, then it might be worth the risk.

Posted by: i disagree at April 3, 2009 12:40 PM

Oh,

SNAP


SANP


SNAP


Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 3, 2009 12:45 PM

agreed with mr. b... a building like this ends up destroying the streetscape. So what if the building next to it is ugly? Why should we keep putting up cheap and ugly housing and not better our streets with nicer looking construction?

Posted by: SouthParker at April 3, 2009 12:45 PM

snappy- true it is conjecture but I still stand by my comment. The facade is badly designed. It's not attractive- and I base that on my years as an artist , my training and my eye. I look at that facade annd i can see where they cut corners on the facade. So I will wonder if they cut them inside too-its a natural thought progression to me. This developer is calling his apartments "luxury" apartments.I don't see anything that says luxury in the facade so how can I assume the interior will be better than the exterior?

And sometimes I think some of these developers, especially in poorer neighborhoods, signal a contempt for the neighborhood and their clientele because they don't care how the house looks. They think poor and working class people just don't care- and we both know that is so not true.

Posted by: bxgrl at April 3, 2009 12:46 PM

This building is currently a complete horror but I think there are still ways to aesthetically improve its look e.g. using historical paint colors for the cornice and trim. They should also definitely consider replacing the eaves and front door with something more historically correct.

Posted by: LuvingModern at April 3, 2009 12:47 PM

Its the things that won't be visible even to an inspector that are my cause to worry. Remember a month or so ago we had pics of a cracked facade on one of these??? That's the brick "curtain" falling away from the walls. Those things deteriorate over time and if they skimped on the lathe or put the mortar on improperly (in january) you'll never know until it happens.

Yes, its just conjecture but it is grounded in the fact that they've skimped on the design and aesthetics of the facade.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 3, 2009 12:50 PM

This is one of the most ineptly designed facades I have ever seen. The windows do not even line up. How much architectural talent do you need to line up windows? And that huge blank spot of masonry between the first and second floor?
The "design" is really terrible verging on the anti-social. The older buildings on either side could be restored some day and become perfectly nice, but the new building is a lost cause.


Posted by: sam at April 3, 2009 1:16 PM

sam...the building to the left is a new facade and cinder block as we can see on the side. It may have an original stoop though. However, you are correct...it can easily be made into something more aesthetically pleasing. This one cannot.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 3, 2009 1:22 PM

"Fail to see your logic. Because there are a lot of crappy buildings we should give a pass to the folks who keeping putting them up? Not sure if you noticed but real estate and architecture are two of the central topics of this blog so, no, we're not going keep quiet while philistines destroy the urban landscape. Sorry. No one's forcing you to read."

****Drum Roll******* Brownstoner is now Shark Jumping!!!!!!

"Not sure if you noticed but real estate and architecture are two of the central topics of this blog so, no, we're not going keep quiet while philistines destroy the urban landscape."

Hey Brownstoner would Crappy Assed Condos fall in this category? Plus the "philistines" has destroyed much of Brooklyn! I think your Retarded Ass is a little late to the party and now you sound disingenuous!!! What the matter? Feeling the radiation from the collapsing Mutant Asset Bubble???!!!

The What

Someday this war is gonna end...

Posted by: Return of The What at April 3, 2009 1:26 PM

B for effort
C- for execution
At least they made an attempt.

You have to take into account that the overwhelming amount of regulations and stipulations by the DOB or the DEP or the HPD all take their toll on the final architectural result. In the end, developers opt for the cookie cutter, no hassel, up-ended shoe box.
Labor costs also eat into the ability of developers to hire an architect with even the slightest amount of imagination or talent. Thanks again unions.
Perhaps the goverment, in it's over-reaching, power-grabbing fit, will consider establishing a board of architecture and development to approve/disapprove submitted designs based on prevailing neighborhood standards and long-term architectural/artistic merit. At least that might do the city some good.
Lord knows, by the time our current Democratic Governor, Democratic State Senate,Democratic State Assembly, Democratic US Senate, Democratic US House of Reps. and Democratic US President, get through with their wholesale bankruptcy of the nation, at least we will have some nice corbels and cornices to look at. And you all thought Bush's 870 billion bailout was bad. 12 Trillion is just the beginning of Obama's folly.
Liberals have only themselves to blame.

P.S. look up in the sky,....it's a bird,...it's a plane,....
no,.... it's North Korea launching an intercontinental missle with an Iranian audience sitting on a mound of Plutonium. So much for "talking" with our enemies. lol.

Posted by: Legion at April 3, 2009 2:02 PM

"Sorry. No one's forcing you to read."

Correct - you're expressing your opinion, which is within your rights (hell, it's YOUR blog). I'm expressing mine as well. For example, the phrase "philistines destroy the urban landscape" is great hyperbole, but it's a subjective viewpoint and an exaggeration in my opinion. Unlike some of the other posters, I'm not "demanding" that you remove this thread (which is silly, because it's your blog - you can do whatever you'd like). But I will continue to object to your posts deriding poorly designed buildings in Brooklyn, because to me your zeal seems as much about snobbery and elitism as it is about architecture and real estate. That's just my opinion, of course.

Posted by: East New York at April 3, 2009 2:05 PM

Hiya Legion! I see your Mommie untied you so you can play with the computer (instead of playing with yourself). Eat your oatmeal and get back in..

The What

Someday this war is gonna end...

Posted by: Return of The What at April 3, 2009 2:07 PM

" because to me your zeal seems as much about snobbery and elitism as it is about architecture and real estate. "

And you forgot about Covert Race/Class warfare!!!

East New York I chucked to myself when you congratulated Brownstoner on the Asshead New York Times award (or something like that). It's very funny now the pixie dust is wearing off and everyone is seeing Brownstoner for what he is. This is why I tee off on ole Jon!!!

The What

Someday this war is gonna end...

Posted by: Return of The What at April 3, 2009 2:11 PM

I blame that ugly building on Obama.

Posted by: Xander Crews at April 3, 2009 2:12 PM

mr b has a wedgie haha lol

Posted by: randolph at April 3, 2009 2:14 PM

And lets not forget the Republican contribution to the wholesale bankruptcy of our nation and our Constitution. Take it to the open thread, legion.

Posted by: bxgrl at April 3, 2009 2:15 PM

Oh, come on, we've all seen way worse than that; this house just looks like you cut up a sort-of-okay house and clumsily reassembled the pieces (while leaving a few out).

Posted by: Brenda from Flatbush at April 3, 2009 2:19 PM

Brenda, you made me laugh.

Wow, you guys get heated.

Posted by: Nomi at April 3, 2009 2:26 PM

This ‘horror show’ thread has probably generated the most posts of all the ‘Horror Shows’, even a few from Mr. B.

We get it already, they’re ugly buildings, actually very ugly, but why the uproar over this one? Is it too close to home; too close to the ‘brownstones’ and not in the outskirt fringe neighborhoods of Brooklyn where this ‘style’ is so common?
Let’s move on already….next.

Posted by: bayridgegirl at April 3, 2009 2:27 PM

meet you there boxgirl. tee hee.

Posted by: Legion at April 3, 2009 2:27 PM

"East New York I chucked to myself when you congratulated Brownstoner on the Asshead New York Times award (or something like that)."

What?? When did I do that?? I'm not into that, man! I must have been having a really off day if I did! I mean, I post here and certainly find some of the information useful and many of the posts funny and insightful (yours among them), but unlike some posters, I'm not into helping Mr. Brownstoner pat himself on the back!

Posted by: East New York at April 3, 2009 2:28 PM

Just for the record, I get very heated too. I just pretend no to (usually) on the internet.

Posted by: Nomi at April 3, 2009 2:44 PM

" post here and certainly find some of the information useful and many of the posts funny and insightful (yours among them), but unlike some posters, I'm not into helping Mr. Brownstoner pat himself on the back!"

I'm not going to look for it ENY because you are one of the few people that I like around here and you are now seeing the insanity of Brownstoner and the Retards who post here.

No Biggie ENY and BTW I would love to get a 2 Family in ENY with a driveway for under 200k! One of those Big Assed Brick Babies ; ^ }.

Be well...

The What (The What throws ENY a bag of Skittles)

Someday this war is gonna end...

Posted by: Return of The What at April 3, 2009 2:46 PM

" because to me your zeal seems as much about snobbery and elitism as it is about architecture and real estate. "

This is why developers build eyesore POS's all over the place - because whoever objects is termed elitist and these concerns are dismissed. Demanding higher standards from developers altering our neighborhoods with the shittiest, cheapest condo buildings they can build is not snobbery. And I'm not suggesting city regulation - if more people spoke up then developers would maybe, maybe, give aesthetics 10 extra minutes of thought.

Posted by: squaredrive at April 3, 2009 2:48 PM

You guys are really being unfair to this developer. IMO the house is a brilliant post-modern homage to a '50s PermaStone(™) cover-up of a traditional row house. How witty! How far ahead of it's time! Why didn't you post this two days ago, Mr. B?

Posted by: Bob Marvin at April 3, 2009 2:48 PM

bob! you should be ashamed! ;-)

Sorry but I don't see where commenting on design is elitist or snobby. And we shouldn't forget that Brownstoner got started because Mr. B loves brownstones and old houses. Beautiful neighborhoods should be for everyone. There have been threads where we hooted and howled over someone's decorating taste and I'll be the first to admit that it was a bit snobby of us. But commenting on buildings like this do have more to do with structure, community impact and value. There are blocks in my neighborhood where beautiful old brownstones have been torn down and these g-dawful POS's thrown up. It ruins the block, and they are built like crap. They do it because they think its a poor neighborhood and no one will care. And they're wrong- this is exactly why CHNA so aggressively pursued landmarking- long before the neighborhood started seeing "gentrifyers."

Posted by: bxgrl at April 3, 2009 3:05 PM

The only thing wrong with the building is the windows - which are way too small.

While it probably wont happen, larger windows will make this the most attractive building in the photo..

and DIBS - the building will be here in 15 years, 50 years and 100 years - if it is maintained ... if porous brownstone buildings have lasted 150+ years, you can be sure that virtually anything today can last just as long (but you know that, you just like being dramatic in your posts)

Posted by: fsrg at April 3, 2009 3:10 PM

fsrq: You think only the windows are a problem?
Do you like the entrance? It looks more like a little mouse-hole than a real entrance. And how about the brick? What can you do with such ugly brick? and how about that enormous expanse of blank wall above the top floor windows? This is one of the most graceless composition of disparite elements I have ever seen.

Posted by: sam at April 3, 2009 3:28 PM

"BTW I would love to get a 2 Family in ENY with a driveway for under 200k! One of those Big Assed Brick Babies ; ^ }."

I grew up in one of these in the Spring Creek section of ENY. My Mom still owns it and lives in it.

Thanks for the Skittles, my man.

Posted by: East New York at April 3, 2009 3:47 PM

"This is why developers build eyesore POS's all over the place - because whoever objects is termed elitist and these concerns are dismissed."

Oh - developers build homes that don't match Mr. Brownstoner's aesthetic sense because they want to see people like Mr. Brownstoner called elitist and have his concerns dismissed, huh? That's ridiculous. They build them to make money. I'm sure that they don't meet Mr. Brownstoner's finely honed aesthetic sense doesn't enter into the thought process, nd since Mr. Brownstoner's money isn't involved in any of these Horror Show projects, he can't do much more than share his viewpoint, which he has. That doesn't mean I or anyone else has to agree.

Posted by: East New York at April 3, 2009 3:52 PM

Sam - The entrance looks like the one next door - its an ugly door - ok, not the end of the world.

The Brick - its tan - so what???? its a matter of taste - red brick is mandated by god or something

The "blank wall" above the top windows - it looks to me like it is both the top floor as well as a parapet wall for a roof/deck beacuse it looks like there is another floor setback from the street - again who cares - it is finished off nicely and again if there were bigger windows you wouldnt even notice...I am not entering it into a design competition - its a utilitarian building that but for its way too small windows is fine

Posted by: fsrg at April 3, 2009 4:12 PM

ENY- it really isn't a matter of aesthetic sense- the facade is uncomfortable because things don't line up and its not balanced. If it doesn't balance on the outside, how can it balance on the inside.If they are that careless about facade details, what else are they going to be careless about? You know PR- is this building the best PR for this company that claims to be building luxury apartments?

Posted by: bxgrl at April 3, 2009 4:22 PM

It's fine if you want have threads like this; as someone says it's your blog. But when you start getting all preachy and shrill about it, like someone gave you the right to be the arbiter about what good is and what people can do with their property under the applicable laws and codes, it's a turnoff. It's a fine line between what "everyone" can see is "obviously" bad and your personal opinion. Also, when you start off in a mean spirited and snarky way, you might be funny, or you might be an a-hole. You never know until it's too late.

Posted by: jawbreaker at April 3, 2009 4:35 PM


Come on. At the end of the day this guy will sell for 300$ per Sq. Ft. Nicer Condo / House - 600$ per Sq. Ft.

I don't like this POS but the "Developer" took the risk - bought the land, designed and built, probably loaned money Etc ....

Why shouldn't he be rewarded. I am 90 % sure most of you commentators only dream of doing something like this.

From a business point of view - He did the right thing. He built cheap so he can sell cheap.

From a visual point of view - This thing is crap.

Posted by: Ethan at April 3, 2009 4:40 PM

quote:

If it doesn't balance on the outside, how can it balance on the inside

what a ridiculous ascertation that has been brought up numerous time in this thread. do you also assume that ugly people are automatically ugly on the inside and vice versa? of course not.

*rob*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 3, 2009 4:51 PM

Friday's Architectural Criticism=Kind of like shooting fish in a barrel or making fun of the disabled.

Here's the real horror show... Always check out the DOB site to get a vibe on what kind of GC/builder performed the work... Stop Work Order Violation for work contrary to approved plans, inadequate shoring unsafe excavation, after-hours work... inadequate house keeping-debris piled up in back and front yards..

You know if the company can't even build a decent construction fence that's pretty much says it all.

This is really ALL they know how to do. The best that anyone can hope for is that these amateurs never build next to YOUR house.

Posted by: IMBY at April 3, 2009 4:56 PM

I'll paste this here from the QOTD:

I suggest renaming this thread, "Things that make you go zzzzz."

I understand Mr B's point, but I think this thread is - in the end - as snarky and ineffectual as the "That's Rather Hideous" posts on Curbed.

Is this virtual "Hall of Shame" of aesthetically challenged buildings going to change the mind of even one of the developers of said horrors?

Of course not. It's preaching to the choir.

Posted by: SnarkSlope at April 3, 2009 5:01 PM

Don't listen to SnarkSlope, Would like to see Brownstoner start doing a "Lowered Expectations" Monday morning post as well.

Posted by: IMBY at April 3, 2009 5:09 PM

And the choir goes "Amen."

Posted by: SnarkSlope at April 3, 2009 5:16 PM

Haven't any of you noticed that there was actually an attempt at a cornice at the top of this building???

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at April 3, 2009 5:26 PM

And my favorite two words...

[queue drum roll]

SHIT SANDWICH.

Posted by: Action Jackson at April 3, 2009 5:39 PM

rob- I suggest you just ignore my posts since they bother you. That way I won't have to explain why the exterior windows off balance will also be off balance on the interior and you won't have to sound like a bigger fool than you usually do.

Posted by: bxgrl at April 3, 2009 5:41 PM

the windows are not off balance. it's the person who took the picture who doesnt know how to take a picture. and even if the windows are a lil crooked. who cares. Brenda from the original 90210 had eyes like those windows and she was on 90210! asymmetry is in , no?!

and those windows are not crooked. go take a head on picture. i think that pic was taken like that to make it look like that.


*rob*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 3, 2009 8:51 PM

I deal with photos and graphics everyday as a graphic artist/designer. All it takes is a ruler laid against the right edge of the molding to see that the window above the door is further over than the ones above. The position of the meter nook being so close to the center window and set back from the left edge is as obvious as the fact that the arch over the door is at the right edge of the building.

The top half of the building and bottom half look like they come from 2 different construction plans. That is not the fault of the photo nor the angle.

Posted by: bxgrl at April 4, 2009 10:08 AM

WHAT I LOVE about this building is the ability to walk right up to the front window and look right in!! Now that is a luxury. Its like being in your very own tv show with all the world watching. If this building is any thing like our other favorite building on Grand & Greene, next to Eddie's furniture, then that bottom unit is a studio that only has that one window for light and ventilation. marvelous. that is really living.

Posted by: tsarina at April 4, 2009 2:04 PM

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