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April 10, 2009

Hit and Run by the DDC?

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Like most Clinton Hill residents, we were thrilled when the city's Department of Design and Construction (DDC) wrapped up its Fulton Street project late last year. Like many others, we can only assume, we are not so thrilled with the unsightly street corners that have been left in the project's wake. What's up with that?
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is that definitely the final product? there are some paint markings that could indicate some additional work to be done. although i'm not sure how you could take this mess and make it pretty.

Posted by: z at April 10, 2009 10:08 AM

ew that is pretty fugly. was that soft gravelly tar when you took the pic or was it hard already? i feel like i've seen similar things like that around soho then a few weeks later it's gone and fixed.. hopefully that will be fixed up. in the meantime, if it's still soft, get a stick and write Mr. B Was here!!!.

*rob*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at April 10, 2009 10:13 AM

So what happens if homeowners repair the sidewalks in front of their homes in such a manner?

I'm sure that would be perfectly acceptable RIGHT?

Posted by: TownhouseLady at April 10, 2009 10:17 AM

These repaving repairs are in the new "Pompeiian style", the last word in organic sidewal and street repair. The idea is to imitate the natural flow of molten lava and ash. In Pompeii and other lost cities of Europe, this approach has withstood the test of time.
You guys are so out of it.

Posted by: sam at April 10, 2009 10:22 AM

Mr. and Mrs. B, we are loving the high ratio of Clinton Hill posts. Keep it up and let us know the latest in the Tish/Bid.

Posted by: Putnam junk yards at April 10, 2009 10:22 AM

I have fought the city tooth and nail twice in the last 20 years about city repairs to my sidewalk. They will get away with anything they can and will only cave when you show determination and don't go away. That said, it is worth the fight, because otherwise the city would look like crap.

Posted by: Schultz at April 10, 2009 10:29 AM


They may have done this as a temporary patch-up with plans to return for more work later. Just a hunch, but I've seen it happen.

Posted by: East New York at April 10, 2009 10:39 AM

And the winner is ... East New York! Johnny, what do we have for all our contestants?

The Department of Design and Construction had the contractor make these temporary asphalt patches to expedite returning the street to two-way traffic and bringing back bus service on Fulton Street. Concrete sidewalks are scheduled to be installed this spring.

Posted by: Robert Perris at April 10, 2009 10:57 AM

For our sidewalk street repair, it was a two phase process. The guys doing the repair work, in this case sewer pipes, fill in their mess with the rough asphalt. Later, after a week or two, the city guys come in and do a proper patch.

Posted by: perspective man at April 10, 2009 12:31 PM


ENY victory anthem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksUv-jJZWm8

Posted by: East New York at April 10, 2009 12:31 PM

I figured they'd fix the sidewalks on the north side of Fulton as soon the weather warmed up a bit. No such luck. A barely-functional Fulton St is as high as they seem to want to set the bar.

I saw a guy with a yellow BID shirt on with a broom on Fulton a month ago. He was hanging out on a corner chatting with people. Haven't seen anyone since, but the trash cans on the corner of Fulton & St James are constantly overflowing into the street.

I feel bad for the businesses that had actual hopes for the BID accomplishing something for them other than higher expenses.

Posted by: Lothar of the Clinton Hill People at April 10, 2009 12:53 PM

I don't know who the guy with the yellow shirt was, but the Fulton Street BID won't be operational until July 1 (the beginning of the tax year) at the earliest.

Posted by: g man at April 10, 2009 1:21 PM

I don't think any BID people have started working yet.

As for the sidewalks, it's warmed up now, it is Spring, so when is the promised completion of the sidewalks going to be done.

Also, why didn't they install consistent tree pits on the sidwalks that were repaired. There are some on the south side of the street near the post office, but no new ones anywhere else. They'll probably come back and cut the new concrete as opposed to being proactive and plan where the tree pits should be, just to create more work and a worse looking outcome...

Posted by: 1842 at April 10, 2009 1:36 PM

Robert Perris is the District Manager for Community Board number 2 in Brooklyn that covers this area. If he tells you its a temp its a temp repair....

Posted by: smeyer418 at April 10, 2009 7:42 PM

OK-Is Mr. Perris saying that ALL the crummy looking sidewalk patches - which seem to run all the way from Waverly to Grand on the north side of Fulton- are going to be replaced? I dont want to push my luck and plus people around here dont seem to bother anyway but how about some post-war garbage cans too?

Posted by: dokas at April 10, 2009 10:07 PM

OK-Is Mr. Perris saying that ALL the crummy looking sidewalk patches - which seem to run all the way from Waverly to Grand on the north side of Fulton- are going to be replaced? I dont want to push my luck and plus people around here dont seem to bother anyway but how about some post-war garbage cans too?

Posted by: dokas at April 10, 2009 10:24 PM

here's what is says about sidewalks on the DDC site's notice about the Fulton project:
Sidewalk Violation Notices
Prior to sidewalk installation, the NYC Department of Transportation will inspect your sidewalk. If a violation exists, a sidewalk violation
notice will be issued to you. Included with this violation notice will be a Preliminary Inspection Report (PIR) indicating the square
footage you will be assessed for. Your sidewalk will be installed in no less than 45 days. During this 45-day period, you may request a
reinspection by DOT that may result in a revised PIR. When the sidewalk is installed DDC will notify the NYC Department of Finance to
assess you for the work completed in accordance with the final PIR. For more details, please contact our Community Construction
Liaison or visit the NYC DOT website at www.nyc.gov/dot.

So does this mean that the bldg owners pay for sidewalks>? and that they can really replace that huge stretch of sidewalk in 45 days?

Posted by: dokas at April 10, 2009 10:27 PM

big fracking deal...
works fine
get over it
more important things

Posted by: dutchman at April 11, 2009 5:38 PM

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