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Today is the day! For anyone who is interested, we are meeting tonight at Floyd NY. People will begin arriving at 6pm, but feel free to drop by whenever you can. We plan on staying late. We will have name tags on which you can write your login name, but by all means feel free to remain anonymous if you prefer.
Please see me for a wristband that will allow you to get a discount on drinks all night long.
http://floydny.com/
131 Atlantic Avenue
between Henry and Clinton Streets
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 9:22 AM
a super funny update on the overcrowding stroller parking situation in my building that i wrote about yesterday... well turns out one of the people with the strollers is someone who lives on my floor, the ground floor, the LOBBY! so there is no need to take it up that many flights like i thought and felt sympathy for. (tho to be honest i think she's in a one bedroom with her husband and three kids). that's gotta blow. so maybe it's a room issue. however it gets funnier. she put up a note near the strollers saying she lost the key to her stroller and if anyone has something she can cut the lock chain with!!! lol. i totally think we do have wire cutters in the apartment and if it's still locked up tonight im going to knock on her door and be a good neighbor. oh btw she is the one who complained to me that my roommate's dog left a dookie on the floor in the lobby near her door. btw that does not happen often. we had a new dog walker, and it happened to me once too, but his dog is 16 years old and she doesnt drop one out like a normal dog where they circle and make a face. it just plops right out of her (and it's totally solid so it's not like hard to clean up). of course i felt bad, but seriously lady... a little nibble of poop < 4 strollers and a scooter locked on chains blocking the freepile and mailboxes. hahaha.
so who is coming tonight btw?
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at March 19, 2009 9:25 AM
Biff, strollers, poop, what's next????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 9:28 AM
And poop gets mentioned on post #2. Good work, Rob! :-)
Rob, are you coming for sure tonight? I know you said you can't make it until a bit later. I really hope you can attend.
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 9:29 AM
biff i suck at names AND faces, but you were the first person i met that night right? or was that adam? turns out my roommate is getting back at 2 from barcelona today so i dont have to go home first to walk the dogs after work. however i stupidly forgot to DVR hell's kitchen. GRRRRRR. so i have to call him to see if he knows how to do it. if not ill have to stop home first.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at March 19, 2009 9:29 AM
"Biff, strollers, poop, what's next????"
Where's cobblehiller with today's agenda??? Hmm, cats? porn? reality tv? I don't know!!
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 9:29 AM
Don't think I'll make it tonight, unfortunately.
I forgot I have Parent/Teacher Conferences tonight. Won't leave work until 7:30/8:00. I'm usually pretty wiped after these days/nights.
But I'll get to smile at all the honesty I drop on the parents about their little "angels".
;)
Have fun tonight...
Posted by: christopher at March 19, 2009 9:31 AM
DIBS' sex life???
Posted by: Bold type guest at March 19, 2009 9:33 AM
Rob, excellent! Looking forward to seeing you. It's possible you saw me first although there's a slight resemblance between me and Adam.
You can always download or watch Hell's Kitchen on the network website if you have to. I've caught up with missed shows that way.
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 9:33 AM
Rob, excellent! Looking forward to seeing you. It's possible you saw me first although there's a slight resemblance between me and Adam.
You can always download or watch Hell's Kitchen on the network website if you have to. I've caught up with missed shows that way.
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 9:33 AM
DIBS' sex life???
Posted by: Bold type guest at March 19, 2009 9:33 AM
christopher, we'll be there well past that time so if you can find the strength, try to drop in.
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 9:35 AM
STFU BTG. Bitter??? I go out to refill my coffee and look what happens.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 9:36 AM
ooooooooh parent teacher nights are funny. i always got glowing reviews from all my teachers except my 7th grade homeroom / english lit teacher. she was a total townie who lived in the same town as us in jersey and moonlighted at the pathmark in our town at night. she was like 22 or something. anyway everyone hated her. EVERYONE. someone wrote beach whale on the chalkboard one day and she actually corrected everyone and was all like it's beachED whale. derrr. anyway my grandparents used to grocery shop at that pathmark every friday night and of course she worked there and she would tell them things i said and did and what other kids said about me, blah blah. and i think she made stuff up, no kidding. it was really frustrating. the worst was when she had someone from another class come in to my history class, call me out, bring me into her class, and said "youre being suspended!" i was like what? i think i nearly cried (i was a huge nerd) in front of the whole class and she screams APRIL FOOLS! i was totally mortified. okay now retelling this story it's actually kind of funny. it wasnt at the time tho.
there was this awesome hoodlum chick in my class who used to get into big arguments with her. she was seriously 15 in 7th grade. she put tacks on her seat, glued her seat, stole her purse, etc. i pretty much for the most part loved all my teachers but that one will go down as worst teacher of ALL time!
ms. sandstrom you big beach whale, you sucked!!!
anyway that had nothing to do about parent teacher conferences.. but those were funny i guess. what really went on in those anyway?
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at March 19, 2009 9:38 AM
We never had parent/teacher conferences when I was growing up. Besides, I was a model student... :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 9:43 AM
Rob - i was walking on your block yesterday and smelled LOTS of pot smoke coming from some apt. was that you?
does anyone know the law about smoking in your apt? i.e. safe to assume that someone can smell it, call the police, and they can enter your place on probable cause? i ask b/c a friend wanted to smoke while at my place and i was too nervous (i dont smoke)
Posted by: goldie at March 19, 2009 9:45 AM
Mr. B.....do you ever glance at the Forum??? Nike spam been there for about 40 minutes already
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 9:47 AM
When you Assheads are partying tonight just remember this is just over the horizon! The shockwave from the collapse of the Mutant Asset Bubble is coming this way! The FED has gone off the reservation with Quantitative Easing. The FED is printing money and destroying the value of yours and will unleash the inflation monster! So have fun tonight and plan for the next one this October, I might show up for that one..
Please read...
Scenes from the recession
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/03/scenes_from_the_recession.html
The state of our global economy: foreclosures, evictions, bankruptcies, layoffs, abandoned projects, and the people and industries caught in the middle. It can be difficult to capture financial pressures in photographs, but here a few recent glimpses into some of the places and lives affected by what some are calling the "Great Recession". (35 photos total)
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at March 19, 2009 9:49 AM
I heard the sales of the edible Spam are going through the roof due to the economy. (Oh, and I use the term "edible" loosely).
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 9:50 AM
I had a really bad day yesterday after discovering I lost a lot of work on my computer that I need for a meeting today. I was up most of the night frantically working, as I am now.
If I crash and burn right after my meeting, I’m not sure I’ll be there tonight. I hope to be able to make it, but if not, have a great time!
And if I’m not there and since I don’t drink, will someone please not have a drink on my behalf.
Hope to see you all later.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at March 19, 2009 9:55 AM
Good morning all, Glad to see you've all been hard at work!
So far you have covered:
Poop
Strollers
Park Slope [ipso facto - since Rob said it]
Dogs
Porn
Reality TV
DIBS sex life
Pot smoking
Cigarette Smoking
A What rant [Morning What!]
Derivatives [ipso facto, see What's rant]
SPAM [digital & edible!]
We still need:
Actual cat discussion - brief mention doesn't count!
bxgrl rant
benson rant
What's kid photo - Pretty please?
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 9:55 AM
Rob, funny story about your 7th grade teacher.
I love Conferences. I make the kids tell the parents how they did and why they earned the grade on their report card.
There is no better feeling as a teacher than to watch a kid, generally the disrespectful loudmouths, describe to their parents why it is they failed or almost failed. Half the time I don't say a word, I let the student do all the talking.
99% of the time that student's work and behavior improves dramatically from there on out.
I teach 250 kids so I get about 40 or so parents at these things. Draining but well worth it.
If I can muster it I'll try to swing by tonight on my way home...
Posted by: christopher at March 19, 2009 9:56 AM
"I heard the sales of the edible Spam are going through the roof due to the economy."
I love the "inedible" spam! Nice and chewy...
The What (Can I have some more.. please..)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at March 19, 2009 9:58 AM
Had a parent-teacher conference this morning.
Plan to attend tonight.
Posted by: lechacal at March 19, 2009 9:59 AM
Probably Scrapple too, down in Philly. Awful shit.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 9:59 AM
the What-
I can guarantee you will -never- show up. You lack balls.
Posted by: Prodigal_Son at March 19, 2009 10:01 AM
goldie that most certainly was not me! however there are a TON of pot smokers in my building. someone said it a while back in some thread, but it seems like 1/2 of park slope's adult smoke weed. i only smoke it when im offered it, never buy it, but everytime i smoke i get so delerious and cant function. it's just not good for me so i try to stay away from it.
i *think* you cant call the cops if you smell weed coming from someone's apartment because there are deodorants and room odorizers that smell like weed that are sold. so cops cant just come in for some random cause like a smell.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at March 19, 2009 10:01 AM
Burning sage leaves smells EXACTLY the same as pot.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 10:03 AM
Aw BRG, sorry to hear it. Hope you can sneak in a nap today and make it to Floyd.
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 10:03 AM
BRG, PLEASE try to show up.
What, we would all love to meet you despite what some might say.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 10:05 AM
Just in case anyone was interested, a new photo of Charles Manson was just released...
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/03/scenes_from_the_recession.html
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 10:08 AM
I am in the midst of "wife doesn't want to go back to work" freakout and hope to be there tonight. If not its because I am being a good husband and helping talk my wife off the proverbial ledge. Hope to see everyone though. Will definitely be the early posse if I make it...
Posted by: wasder at March 19, 2009 10:09 AM
ooooh kids go to yours christopher? i think our "parents night" it was called back then it was only for parents and teachers, but im not sure. i liked it cuz it meant my grandmother was out of the house for a few hours. tho she mostly was out most nights anyway at bingo. (i was pretty feral growing up. my grandfather didnt live with us during the week.) ahhahah
*r*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at March 19, 2009 10:09 AM
so wait a sec, Rob.
"because there are deodorants and room odorizers that smell like weed that are sold."
People buy products that specifically smell like something that otherwise people want to mask?
Thats like a candle that smells like farts. Or incense that smells like b.o.
Posted by: Prodigal_Son at March 19, 2009 10:10 AM
> "Burning sage leaves smells EXACTLY the same as pot."
No it doesn't. Not in the slightest. Or so I read someplace...
Posted by: SnarkSlope at March 19, 2009 10:10 AM
I'll rant right after the next What kiss-up from you :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at March 19, 2009 10:11 AM
"ooooh kids go to yours christopher?"
Posted by: PitbullNYC at March 19, 2009 10:09 AM
Not all, but most students do attend with their folks.
I'm preparing my grade book and the like as I browse....
Posted by: christopher at March 19, 2009 10:14 AM
"What's kid photo - Pretty please?"
The one where they hooked up the car battery to my testicles?
"I can guarantee you will -never- show up. You lack balls."
I left them down you wife's throat. No kissing...
"What, we would all love to meet you despite what some might say."
I rather shove my balls in a bread slicer!
Yeah three ball post prefect score!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at March 19, 2009 10:17 AM
cops will barely stop you on the street for smoking a joint - let alone busting down your door for a little pot smoke. good luck.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at March 19, 2009 10:17 AM
No tea bagging reference???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 10:19 AM
I'm not sure I like this 'kiss up' thing you have mentioned bxgrl...
I'm sincere in my comments. I'm not 'kissing up' to anyone. Not my style!
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 10:21 AM
christopher my roommate is a private school (girls school) teacher in manhattan. he told me that gossip girl is not that far off the mark. the stories he tells me are hysterical! he's been bribed for grades more times than he can count.
*r*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at March 19, 2009 10:21 AM
OY, c'mon What, take it easy over there — I haven't had my second cup of coffee yet!
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 10:23 AM
wasn't crazy about the rant comment myself.
Posted by: bxgrl at March 19, 2009 10:24 AM
I'd been looking for these numbers for a few weeeks. Here are three graphs representing the amount of money pulled out of the stockmarket waiting on the "sidelines." These are historically unprecedented amounts of money that eventually will move back into the stock market...
http://seekingalpha.com/article/125537-money-from-the-sidelines-will-determine-next-rally
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 10:25 AM
How about this question:
Who is the one poster here you would most like to meet in person that you haven't met before?
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 10:25 AM
Ok, Ok, point taken, peace bxgrl.
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 10:26 AM
Easy, Biff...the What..or BHO as the booby prize. :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 10:27 AM
wasder, hope you can make it! Biff and I are counting on you for the receiving line and the 'Hello I am..." stickers!
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 10:31 AM
"OY, c'mon What, take it easy over there — I haven't had my second cup of coffee yet! "
The blood should flow to you brain on the first cup! The second cup is the booster shot! The third cup should have your arms shaking ; ^ )....
The What (More Coffee Damn it!!!!)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at March 19, 2009 10:32 AM
I have two posters I'd like to meet:
What and SnarkSlope
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 10:32 AM
Rob,
We had to go to ours with our parents. You'd sit on a chair outside the classroom door and then when they'd finished discussing you they'd call you in and let you know how you were doing and what they expected from you.
You're teacher had to moonlight at Pathmark? You should feel bad for her now knowing that she worked two jobs! I'd be cranky too.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 10:33 AM
I just talked to my wife about it again and I am pretty sure I will make it. I just didn't want to assume anything because its been a rocky week with the end of maternity leave. Biff is getting the name tags just in case.
Posted by: wasder at March 19, 2009 10:33 AM
"the What..or BHO as the booby prize. :)"
this could easily be a two birds with one stone situation dibs
Posted by: wasder at March 19, 2009 10:34 AM
Yes, SnarkSlope....no condo meeting this time.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 10:38 AM
wasder- I saw my sister and brother in law go through this when my nephew was born. It was stressful and of course it became a toss up between having more money coming in vs the extra expense of have childcare. Not to mention she was so in love with the baby and couldn't bear to leave him.
cobble- :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at March 19, 2009 10:38 AM
i feel like going to the party store today and getting a plastic clown nose cuz i burned my nose this past weekend (dont ask). :(
*r*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at March 19, 2009 10:39 AM
besides- I'm ranting on the BHOD thread.
Posted by: bxgrl at March 19, 2009 10:39 AM
bxgrl, you're supposed to rant in here or we don't count it :-)
wasder, great to hear you'll likely make it. I've already called Staples to make sure they have the name tags and I'll pick them up.
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 10:41 AM
I would like to meet DIBS and Wasder and 11217. And everyone in general.
Posted by: lechacal at March 19, 2009 10:43 AM
"The blood should flow to you brain on the first cup! The second cup is the booster shot! The third cup should have your arms shaking ; ^ )...."
LOL! In my case, 3rd cup is only for very special 'nuclear manuevers'!!!
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 10:44 AM
I'm so bummed that I cannot attend tonight. I would like to personally meet all of you, but I would really, really like to meet Montrose Morris. We live like around the corner from each other, but never had the pleasure of meeting.
BTW, did anyone watch High School Reunion on TV Land last night?
Posted by: faithful at March 19, 2009 10:44 AM
Biff....if that Staples is out of your way let me know. There's one on 3rd Ave a block from my office.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 10:45 AM
rob- why would you go buy a red plastic clown nose if yours is already bright red from sunburn? Save your money :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at March 19, 2009 10:48 AM
I want to meet Asshead and Asshat!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at March 19, 2009 10:49 AM
I'm sorry bxgrl, I'm afraid Biff is correct, according to the Open Thread Daily Agenda and Bingo rules, the item must be mentioned in this thread.
[Dirty Hipster will back me up on this, I'm sure, as he wrote the handbook].
Furthermore, I can't be counted on to traipse all over thread to thread looking for appropriate references! ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 10:50 AM
BRG....mirror, mirror, on the wall....
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 10:51 AM
Am I allowed a cat rant or did we cover the subject already? I noticed we did cover poop (in sordid detail) and we are verging on the reality tv talk.
Posted by: bxgrl at March 19, 2009 10:54 AM
WOW...in the HOTD Thread, What and bxgrl are in agreement and both ranting against some loon from Spokane!!!! ROTFLMMFAO
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 10:54 AM
That was HOD Thread.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 10:55 AM
DIBS, I might take you up on that as I have to do something at lunch and then I have to leave early (and the Staples isn't that close to me). I'll try my best to get them but will let you know if I can't.
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 10:55 AM
BRG....mirror, mirror, on the wall....who's the dirtiest gay man of them all.
- Posted by: daveinbedstuy
Posted by: bayridgegirl at March 19, 2009 10:56 AM
Biff...consider it done. I will go over in about 20 minutes and I'll let you know whether I was able to get them or not. It's literally 1 block away and on my way to get a sandwich.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 10:57 AM
"WOW...in the HOTD Thread, What and bxgrl are in agreement and both ranting against some loon from Spokane!!!!"
Is bxgrl kissing up to The What AGAIN??
:-)
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 10:58 AM
FIre away bxgrl! Cat topic is wide open!
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 10:58 AM
I just can't gaurantee I'll be there right at 6:00
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 10:58 AM
Perfect, thanks DIBS. I'll bring the magic marker. What time (approximately) are you going to get to Floyd?
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 10:59 AM
Since you brought up my sex life I have to say that I'll be needing to get a second wind sometime tonight.
You know how it is when you take someone home for the first time and the two of you don't get a lot of sleep that night?? Well, that happened last night.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 11:00 AM
It's okay DIBS, the early ones will just have to write their login IDs all over their shirts.
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 11:00 AM
No- I am cutting my wrists after that was pointed out to me :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at March 19, 2009 11:01 AM
cat discussions go here---> http://icanhascheezburger.com/
Posted by: goldie at March 19, 2009 11:04 AM
I'll be there by 6:30 at the latest. Will you have access to your email so I can confirm whther or not I got them...say around 11:30-11:45??
What & bxgrl, sitting in a tree.
K-I-S-S-I-N-G
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 11:04 AM
DIBS, yes, I'll have access to it at all times today.
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 11:06 AM
so where is floyd's exactly and how do you get there? please don't tell me to google it.
*r*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at March 19, 2009 11:07 AM
I can bring some small mailing label stickers to kick us off until the "Hello my name is" stickers appear Biff.
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 11:09 AM
Are mostly-lurkers like me allowed at this Floyd's thing or is it more for you hardcore folks?
Posted by: etson at March 19, 2009 11:11 AM
"I would like to meet DIBS and Wasder and 11217. And everyone in general."
The Jackal will be in attendance? How cool...
Posted by: wasder at March 19, 2009 11:11 AM
> "Yes, SnarkSlope....no condo meeting this time."
Condo meeting? I think you must be thinking of somebody else.
But no, I can't make it tonight. I have to shampoo the cat.
Posted by: SnarkSlope at March 19, 2009 11:13 AM
Faithful, we have to figure out how to meet. I have a feeling we have, but didn't know it. Write me at montrosemorrisATyahooDOTcom, and we can discuss it.
I'm offended there is no call for a daily MM rant.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at March 19, 2009 11:13 AM
Here Rob:
http://www.hopstop.com/route?zip2=11201&address2=131+Atlantic+Ave%2e&mode=s&city1=New%20York
You can plug in the address you are coming from and it will tell you ways to get there.
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 11:13 AM
etson...everyone is welcome.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 11:14 AM
"I have to shampoo the cat." Code???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 11:15 AM
Have fun everyone - will be leaving for India tonight. Has anyone been? Any suggestions?
Posted by: dirty_hipster at March 19, 2009 11:16 AM
Rob, what subway are you closest to?
etson, of course, all are welcome. We had mostly-lurkers and complete-lurkers show up last time and they seemed to really enjoy themselves.
wasder, I think lechecal was there late last time and didn't see the handful of us who were still there. We should be there late tonight as well.
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 11:16 AM
"Are mostly-lurkers like me allowed at this Floyd's thing or is it more for you hardcore folks"
Everyone is welcome Etson!
MM, please accept our apologies for the omission, but your comments are usually more Thesis-like than Rant-like!
LATE ADDITION TO THE AGENDA: MM Thesis needed! ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 11:17 AM
Cool, thanks guys. Will try to stop by 730-8ish.
Will be kind of like meeting my favorite reality show characters!
Posted by: etson at March 19, 2009 11:20 AM
Nobody wants to meet the chicken..... :(
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Posted by: the chicken at March 19, 2009 11:20 AM
dirty hipster...we will miss you. I've been to Mumbai and stayed at the Taj Mumbai before it was rrenovated...and now renovated apparently again already after the terrorist incident.
However, I also went to Goa and stayed at the Taj Exotica bown there...walk along the beaches and find great food at the thatch "restaurants" that populate the beaches. we kept going back to one called "Coco's" It had a Pepsi sign with the name...run by Nepali guys for a British/Irish couple.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 11:23 AM
the chicken, I'll reserve a stool for you to plunk (or is it pluck) yourself down on.
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 11:23 AM
yes chicken, we all want to meet you.
I hear there are chicken wings on the menu.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 11:25 AM
im gonna leave from work and im near the 6 train and R train. short walk to the F, 1, and Q on canal i think..
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at March 19, 2009 11:26 AM
100
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 11:26 AM
Cobblehiller;
Here is my rant of the day,and it is directed at you!
I find it amazing how you "suck up" to the What. I hestitate to use that phrase, given that we are talking about this person, but I am using it in the rhetorical meaning.
I don't wish to give this person more air time, but I frankly find it amazing that anyone would take him seriously, never mind treat him like he is some type of celebrity. This is a guy whose stated hero is Sonny Carson, the man who applauded Yankel Rosenbaum's murder (he was "very proud" of the murderers), the man who stated after the infamous Korean grocer boycott (you know, the boycott which had the motto "Don't Shop With People Who Don't Look Like Us"}:
"In the future, there'll be funerals, not boycotts."
Here is a poster who engages in the most vulgar racist,misogynist and homophobic rants - just like his stated hero - and you talk to him like he is just some cute rascally fellow.
Political correctness at its finest!
See you tonight!
Posted by: benson at March 19, 2009 11:28 AM
Would be great to meet you chicken - you are one of those I was hoping to see there.
Posted by: etson at March 19, 2009 11:31 AM
Have a great trip DH!
Rob, take the R train to Court Street, be at the BACK of the train. You'll pop up at Clinton Street and Montague. Walk AGAINST the traffic on Clinton to Atlantic, turn right, and walk down the block. If you get to Henry, you've gone too far!
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 11:31 AM
Cobblehiller is this true? You've spoken to someone with the expressed written consent of Benson?
Weren't you aware that he dictates the moral code?
Benson, once again I'm brought back to this thought- stuff it. You're disapproval does not a wrong make.
Cobble:
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind" - Dr. Suess
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 11:36 AM
Thanks CH/Dave
Goa is actually where I'll be spending most of the trip. I'll have to swing by Coco's and tell em DIBS says hi.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at March 19, 2009 11:38 AM
thanks cobblehiller!!!
does it matter if i take the first car instead of the last? i always take the first car unless a bum peed or pooped in it. (im asking cuz i know sometimes you have to take a certain car to even get out of the stop...) i dont mind walking down the length of the subway on court street if that isnt the case.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at March 19, 2009 11:40 AM
Hooray! The chicken is feeling the love!
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Think I will adopt this as my new signature.
Posted by: the chicken at March 19, 2009 11:42 AM
"Cobblehiller;
Here is my rant of the day,and it is directed at you!"
Yippee! Bring it benson! I've had two cups of coffee, I'm ready!
I could care less what you or anyone else thinks about how I talk to or treat any other poster. Unless I am treating someone badly, I see no reason for you to take notice or concern yourself in anyway whatsoever.
There are plenty of posters that interact in a positive way with another poster whom I dislike, or happen to think is an asshat/asshead. But I don't march around thinking that my opinion matters more than a pile of doggie doo to anyone but me.
So I find it surprising that you think that your opinion of my interaction with What would matter to me anymore than your opinion of my relationship with BH [my Better Half] or the Dalai Lama would matter to me.
Shall I submit requests to you about who I want to talk to and more importantly how I should talk to them? What format would you like that in? How much notice would you like? Do you want that in PowerPoint or Word format?
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 11:42 AM
Rob, you could also take the 6 and transfer to the 4/5 and pop out around Court and Joralemon. But I would stick with cobblehiller's directions. She knows the area better than most of us.
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 11:42 AM
THL;
I have never told a single person on this thread what to do.
I express my opinion on matters, just like you do. You have tsked-tsked the morals of brokers and people on reality TV shows who prize celebrity over a normal family life.
I am talking about someone whose moral compass points to Sonny Carson, who, by the way, is also a convicted kidnapper.
Political correctness sometimes reigns on this Board. We can tsk-tsk mis-guided people who seek some minor shot at celebrity through a reality TV show, but we should all seek peace and dialogue with someone whose hero is a convicted thug that applauded a murder.
Posted by: benson at March 19, 2009 11:43 AM
Rob,
No, it really doesn't matter, but it's easier if you pop up right on Clinton. Was just trying to make it simpler for you! : )
If you end up at the front, walk down Court WITH the traffic to Atlantic and turn right, walk over past Clinton to the bar.
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 11:44 AM
Benson, don't worry so much about what we do. You mind yourself. It seems you haven't done so well with that as of late.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 11:49 AM
benson you keep bringing up political correctness. it would actually be MORE politically correct to ignore the what and rant about him like YOU are doing.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at March 19, 2009 11:51 AM
Biff...you there or back in the foxhole??? I got the labels.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 11:54 AM
dipster...i'll send you a pic of the place if you have an email that you care to post
dave
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 11:58 AM
Talk about the law of unintended consequences! We will now be discussing The What all afternoon. (Actually, I have to leave soon and will miss out on it).
DIBS, thanks so much. I am about to step out. Not sure if I'll be back here today. If not, see you soon.
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 11:58 AM
Rob;
I have been the biggest proponent of making The What a persona non grata on these boards, in the same way as PropJoe and others. That is exactly my point.
Oh well,folks just want me to shut up. Fine by me. I'd like to see this site continue to degrade into a political echo chamber and a continued vehicle for The What to feed his need for noteriety and celebrity, like his thuggish hero.
Posted by: benson at March 19, 2009 11:59 AM
Maybe this whole What argument can end if Mr. B puts it to a vote Co-op style :) Then we can get back to discussing cats!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at March 19, 2009 12:01 PM
Project Runway Finalist Accused of Throwing Cat At Fiancee....
http://www.nypost.com/seven/03182009/news/regionalnews/project_runway_finalist_facing_assault_c_160185.htm
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 12:03 PM
Hi Everyone!
am trying to make it tonight
I hope to!!
Posted by: gemini10 at March 19, 2009 12:05 PM
Dave, always there in a pinch - thanks dude!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at March 19, 2009 12:07 PM
"see this site continue to degrade into a political echo chamber"
Benson, I completely understand the logic behind your reasons for not wanting to provide a platform for the What. However, I think that if he were not here (or his alter-ego BHO) this site really could become an echo chamber. And a few of us here have figured out that What is really a performance artist and an invented personality and as such is kind of entertaining. SO I wouldn't fault anyone for taking your position on this and I definitely wouldn't begrudge cobblehiller or biff or myself for that matter the odd indulgence of mixing it up with him. Its kind of funny if you look at it the right way.
Posted by: wasder at March 19, 2009 12:07 PM
gemini10, had to pop back in here to post after seeing your comment. Hoping you and Other Half can attend!
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 12:07 PM
He's not as racist as winelover & propjoe.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 12:09 PM
Important news!
Google Streetview is back up for London - in case you can't get the time off for a holiday, why not take a 5 minute break to see the sights?
Big Ben
http://snipurl.com/e5bmm
Towen Bridge
http://snipurl.com/e5bsq
Royal Courts of Justice
http://snipurl.com/e5bzs
Enjoy!
Posted by: the chicken at March 19, 2009 12:12 PM
Here is a poster who engages in the most vulgar racist,misogynist and homophobic rants - just like his stated hero - and you talk to him like he is just some cute rascally fellow.
Why thank you Benson : ^ }. That comment is a badge of honor.
Mr. Sonny Carson was fighting in the trenches of the Ghetto why you was voting for elements to destroy Black Men and Women. Mr Sonny Carson was a friend to my family for years and It was an honor to have known him!
Let's take a look at your hero Ronald Reagan. This president did a end around Congress and instated the Greatest Covert Operation in American history!
Iran-Contra affair
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_affair
Iran-Contra affair (Persian: ماجرای مکفارلین; Spanish: Escándalo Irán-Contra) was a political scandal in the United States which came to light in November 1986, during the Reagan administration, over an arms-for-hostages deal with Iran and funding for the Nicaraguan Contras.
It began as an operation to improve U.S.-Iranian relations, wherein Israel would ship weapons to a relatively moderate, politically influential group of Iranians; the U.S. would then resupply Israel and receive the Israeli payment. The Iranian recipients promised to do everything in their power to achieve the release of six U.S. hostages, who were being held by the Lebanese Shia Islamist group Hezbollah. The plan eventually deteriorated into an arms-for-hostages scheme, in which members of the executive branch sold weapons to Iran in exchange for the release of the American hostages.[1][2] Large modifications to the plan were conjured by Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North of the National Security Council in late 1985, in which a portion of the proceeds from the weapon sales was diverted to fund anti-Sandinista and anti-communist rebels, or Contras, in Nicaragua.[3] While President Ronald Reagan was a supporter of the Contra cause,[4] there has not been any evidence uncovered showing that he authorized this plan.
Plus this Covert Operation produced Blow-Back in the form of Drugs being sold on the streets in America in most Black neighborhoods...
Gary Webb
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb
Webb was best known for his 1996 "Dark Alliance" series of articles written for the San Jose Mercury News and later published as a book. In the three-part series, Webb investigated Nicaraguans linked to the CIA-backed Contras who had allegedly smuggled cocaine into the U.S. which was then distributed as crack cocaine into Los Angeles and funneled profits to the Contras. Webb also alleged that this influx of Nicaraguan supplied cocaine sparked and significantly fueled the widespread crack epidemic that swept through urban areas. According to Webb, the CIA was aware of the cocaine transactions and the large shipments of drugs into the U.S. by the Contra personnel and directly aided drug dealers to raise money for the Contras.
Webb's reporting generated a large controversy and the Mercury News backed away from the story, effectively ending Webb's career as a mainstream media journalist. In 2004, Webb was found dead from two gunshot wounds to the head, which the coroner's office judged a suicide.
See Benson you can suck my Balls. This was the greats PWNING ever. I used the truth to hang you..... Pick yourself of the floor and reply..
The What (Na Na Na)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at March 19, 2009 12:18 PM
So, I guess you're not a Chelsea fan!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 12:22 PM
I do not believe that What is racist. Why would he talk to me then? I'm white - as my baby photo attested to, and as some of you have met me know also.
I have spoken - umpteen times - about why I talk to What. I find no reason for me to defend my ongoing conversation with him. That's between us.
If anyone disagrees with his comments, you are free to comment directly to What. And I have no vested interest in anyone arguing or not arguing their points with him directly.
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 12:23 PM
Oh BTW Dave you are number two. The Asshat Targeting Systems just updated ...
Load profile....
The What (Benson The What is calling you....)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at March 19, 2009 12:24 PM
I wish we could have a Horror Show Friday to focus everyone's rage on a building instead of each other!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 12:25 PM
UMIST!
No-one else apart from chicken will know what that means.
Posted by: etson at March 19, 2009 12:25 PM
Wasder;
Sorry, I don't agree. First, I don't buy the argument that this guy is necessary to balance out the arguments here. There are plenty of folks on this site who can make an intelligent argument about the possible downsides of gentrification, Bxgrl for one.
Secondly, I still think folks are missing my main point, and have a blind spot wrt this person. Again, HE stated that his hero is Sonny Carson. You know, words can have an impact and for that reason folks like PropJoe and Winelover are virtually banished from this site, yet here we are talking about someone whose words have been equally racist AND has said that he applauds a person who instigated violence and death threats. Why is he tolerated? There is a double-standard at play here.
Posted by: benson at March 19, 2009 12:26 PM
I personally like the What
I think his perspective is something we need from time to time and I have to admit he's been pretty spot on in regards to the whole economy. He's a bit of a throwback and I think just wants to be respected as someone who lived in BK before it became what it is today and is warning us not to walk the streets with the ipod headphone in one ear and our cell phone in the other!
I just wish he would refrain from some of the language and picking on posters..
Posted by: gemini10 at March 19, 2009 12:29 PM
yeah baby! "I missed"
Sorry DIBS, I think it is illegal to support Chelsea if you are english.
Posted by: the chicken at March 19, 2009 12:29 PM
" anyone disagrees with his comments, you are free to comment directly to What. "
Cobblehiller I'm so sorry that you are guilty by association but this shows how many cowards their are on Brownstoner!
Hey Benson I'm right here punk. I called you out before and you ran! This is why I can't show you because I would have to restrain myself ..
The What (Benson over here)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at March 19, 2009 12:29 PM
WTF did I say today, What. I was the first one to agree with you on the HOD thread!!!
Anyway, I think the Douchebag Targetting Systems are more powerful. They were funded with Reagonomics money!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 12:29 PM
"I do not believe that What is racist. Why would he talk to me then? I'm white - as my baby photo attested to, and as some of you have met me know also."
Assuming What is black - which I have no proof of! [And we know what happens when we assume!]
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 12:30 PM
I have relatives in Burnage as well. Afraid I moved south for college, though.
Posted by: etson at March 19, 2009 12:32 PM
" just wish he would refrain from some of the language and picking on posters.."
WHAT???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 80% of the time I'm taking enemy fire!!! Like today-- Did I start with Benson???? No!! But this Assnut goes after someone that don't get involve with the BS!!
I have to run but this is not over!
The What (Benson the balls)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at March 19, 2009 12:33 PM
"Cobblehiller I'm so sorry that you are guilty by association but this shows how many cowards their are on Brownstoner!"
I'm not sorry if I am 'guilty by association' What. But I appreciate the thought! : )
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 12:34 PM
Brownstoner makes for strange bedfellows at times!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 12:35 PM
"Mr Sonny Carson was a friend to my family for years and It was an honor to have known him!"
The What, 2009,on the Open Thread
"I'm anti-white - don't limit my anti's to one group of people."
Sonny Carson, 1991,at a press conference after the Crown Heights riot, in which he applauded the death of Yankel Rosenbaum and said he was "very proud" of those who did it. When asked if he was anto-semitic, Mr. Carson gave the above statement.
Posted by: benson at March 19, 2009 12:36 PM
Benson thinks that if he's deemed someone a pariah then WE ALL should as well. Benson dear, will you remind us, who was it that said, "You're either with us or against us?"
I'm not going to debate the benefit or detriment of The What.
I will however stand by anyone's right to speak to whomever they wish.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 12:41 PM
There sure-as-hell better be some good real estate porn to discuss today, Mr. B.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 12:41 PM
Can we all go over to the HOD thread and have a kumbaya moment?
Posted by: bxgrl at March 19, 2009 12:45 PM
THL;
I await your next compelling moral condemnation of someone on a reality TV show.
In the meantime, I will put the spotlight back on these statements, to reinforce my point:
"Mr Sonny Carson was a friend to my family for years and It was an honor to have known him!"
The What, 2009,on the Open Thread
"I'm anti-white - don't limit my anti's to one group of people."
Sonny Carson, 1991,at a press conference after the Crown Heights riot, in which he applauded the death of Yankel Rosenbaum and said he was "very proud" of those who did it. When asked if he was anto-semitic, Mr. Carson gave the above statement.
Posted by: benson at March 19, 2009 12:45 PM
"I will however stand by anyone's right to speak to whomever they wish."
Thank you THL.
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 12:46 PM
Wow, not real estate porn and not porn per se but have you seen the Reggie Bush and Kim Kardashian photo shoot for GQ?
Good Lord! He's giving me the vapors! Yummy.
http://www.popsugar.com/2940716?page=0,0,2
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 12:47 PM
"Wasder. Sorry, I don't agree."
We are not always going to agree. There are times when I think you are a raving lunatic and there are times when I totally agree with you benson. That's kind of the beauty of this board.
Posted by: wasder at March 19, 2009 12:50 PM
YOWSIR, THL. Made my day.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 12:51 PM
THL - I love that you know Popsugar!
I haven't checked that site in ages!
Posted by: gemini10 at March 19, 2009 12:51 PM
Anyone who does not believe the What is as racist as they come needs their head examined. I'll examine it for you if you like.
Posted by: dittoburg at March 19, 2009 12:53 PM
THL, Oh dear mother of g*d I do love good shoulders...
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 12:53 PM
"http://www.popsugar.com/2940716?page=0,0,2
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 12:47 PM"
Bah! I'll see your six-pack and raise you a keg...
Posted by: the chicken at March 19, 2009 12:54 PM
Hey, where's the porn for the gay girl??? Kim Kardashian is icky :(
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at March 19, 2009 12:55 PM
So don't talk to him Benson. I've said the same thing myself when he's gone off the meds. How dare you condemn anyone for exercising their right to draw their own conclusions. You get all preachy when people don't lash out at PropJoe or Winelover. Again, don't tell people how they should react. Silence can be deafening.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 12:56 PM
Wasder;
You didn't address my second point, as has no one else on this site.
Folks are talking to me as if I have the power to control what is said and done here, when they know full well I don't have any such authority. They are totally mis-representing my point.
I am talking about what passes for acceptable conversation by a vast majority of people on this site, and what doesn't, and in doing so, I am stating that there is a double-standard at play.
The fact that folks are avoiding a discussion of this double standard convinces me that I am correct. I generally find that when folks don't want to address your point, it is a tacit concession.
Posted by: benson at March 19, 2009 12:58 PM
"Anyone who does not believe the What is as racist as they come needs their head examined. I'll examine it for you if you like."
ditto, darling, are you coming to the party this evening? We can talk about this more then.
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 12:59 PM
Sorry Snappy, I love her. She's an Armenian with a ton of tush just like me.
Now can I go back to drooling over Reggie? That's a lot of man.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 1:00 PM
benson- having battled it out with What on that thread I have to say a couple of things- and it's not something that is relevant only to him. Every group looks at life through its own particular lens.
I understand why Sonny Carson is a hero in the Black community- he fought for them tooth and nail. He did a lot of good, fought to instill pride in young people, used his community clout to get things done. Doesn't mean I don't think he was capable of being a complete ass at times but I can't expect the Black community to reject him just because I am Jewish and he is antisemitic.
Sonny Carson's interests were in his own community and he felt the Jewish community ( and whites in general) were the enemy. I'd be a liar if I said he had no reason to feel this way. I'd be lying even more if I said the Jewish community was without fault. But theres plenty of blame to go around on both sides- Black and white. (I'm an equal opportunity blamer).
I'll argue with What on nearly everything- actually I fight with him because of his personal attacks, but not so much on his way of thinking. I warrant more people would listen to him if he didn't get so insulting or obscene (for those who missed a classic late night showdown between him and legion- gross!!)
Granted I don't think he rates a "cute and rascally" reputation, and I posted a whole list of those I think are real heroes, but I can't get upset because of Sonny Carson.
Posted by: bxgrl at March 19, 2009 1:01 PM
"I generally find that when folks don't want to address your point, it is a tacit concession."
Maybe we're just sick of you and have stopped caring what you think?
I'm just saying.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 1:02 PM
"I generally find that when folks don't want to address your point, it is a tacit concession."
I concede to nothing that you have said benson.
I didn't say that you 'have power', I suggested that you think your opinion of my conversations with What should matter to me.
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 1:02 PM
"Now can I go back to drooling over Reggie? That's a lot of man."
Wait up THL, I'm going with you!
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 1:03 PM
yeah that would be great dave.
JSB2789@gmail.com
thanks.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at March 19, 2009 1:04 PM
Benson, I happen to agree with you about the double standard of what is acceptable conversation on this blog. I have chosen to remain silent, simply because I don't want to get caught up in the fray of this argument. People will speak to whomever they wish, and that is their business. Not everyone who remains silent or simply lurks is de-facto condoning the What's tirades and name calling. Am I guilty for not joining the fight? Maybe. But that's something I'll have to deal with inside myself. I'm not asking you to stop pointing out the discrepancy. I guess I just want to say that you should try to recognize that there are people with you in your thoughts but simply choose not to post about it. Somehow I think it all feeds into his ranting and uncalled for insults (and now I too have fed the fire. sigh.).
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at March 19, 2009 1:04 PM
Sorry Cobblers - I'm not coming. Various baby duties on Thurs and Fridays.
Posted by: dittoburg at March 19, 2009 1:05 PM
benson...we talkes about this double standard about a week ago. Basically, you are correct. Italian jokes, Irish jokes Polish jokes (though i don't think we've had any)even Asian jokes always seem more "acceptable" in mainstream society than does anything black or Jewish. I'm not saying its right or wrong but it is there and you're not wrong about bringing it up.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 1:05 PM
Cobble, he talks out of the side of his mouth. When I defended myself the other day he said that the reason I did was BECAUSE I was guilty. That if I weren't I'd have not need to defend myself.
Whatever, Benson is inconsequential.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 1:06 PM
"I am talking about what passes for acceptable conversation by a vast majority of people on this site, and what doesn't, and in doing so, I am stating that there is a double-standard at play."
OK--I will bite because I admire your chutzpah to continue with this line of reasoning. I agree that What gets away with saying things that other people would be shunned and abused for saying. I also agree that Sonny Carson's praising of Yankel Rosenbaum's killers is heinous and against everything civil people ought to be for. What you are tapping into benson is part of a much larger national conversation about race relations, especially along the black/white divide. Bxgrl said it well when she stated that What exploits white guilt about the historical treatment of black people in America and I admit that I am certainly vulnerable to that line of guilt-inducement. No reparations or formal apologies have ever been offered for slavery and I am painfully aware of that fact. For The What to then extrapolate that to "all white people in Clinton Hill are hijacking asshats" is of course laughably reductionist and silly and I try to do my part to uplift dialogue and get people out of the stere-typing business. However, I do know that this site would be less entertaining and weirdly less thought provoking without his special brand of bomb throwing. Sorry to go all moral-relativist on you. I do think I try to call out hateful language from everybody but I know that the internet is a big messy place where consensus will never exist. Your attempts to curtail other people's conversations, or to suggest who they talk to, will never find a welcome audience because of the lack of uniformity as to what is acceptable. I do welcome your attempts to discuss thorny issues like this and think that you have contributed something positive here benson.
Posted by: wasder at March 19, 2009 1:08 PM
"Assnut"
Hey...that's a NEW one! I like it!
You guys crack me up. OK, back to work.
Posted by: East New York at March 19, 2009 1:10 PM
I'm waiting for the What to adopt the outraged at the besmirching of his character tone that he adopts at the end of the day.
Normally it starts off in the morning with an "assheads do you know this" or "retards get a$$raped" nonsense, then proceeds with a lot of missing the point cuss-and-paste siging off with "suck my" or "stick it" or "I am great, bang my drum", then he gets called to task and at the end of the day he is "disgusted" at the level of discourse and the unwarranted assasination of his good name.
What a card.
Posted by: dittoburg at March 19, 2009 1:10 PM
Bxgrl;
Everything you just wrote above could have easily been written about David Dukes. After all, he had his own particular view on life, that he saw through his "group lens", didn't he? He certainly was a hero to a large group of folks too, wasn't he?
His interests were for his own "community" and in that role, he saw blacks, jews and others as the enemy, didn't he?
There is only one difference between Sonny Carson and David Dukes, at least on threads like this one. One has been recognized for the vile racist that he is, and is treated accordingly, while the other (and his associates) have not been, and are treated as a legitimate voice.
A double standard, indeed. Political correctness run amok.
Posted by: benson at March 19, 2009 1:11 PM
DIBS - its Polak jokes.
Posted by: dittoburg at March 19, 2009 1:14 PM
OY! wasder! Now I'm being accused of 'white guilt'?
Is that what you think [or others] think of my talking to What?
Wow, this is fascinating...
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 1:15 PM
ditto...that about sums it up. I especially like "cuss-and-paste."
Sorry we won't we you there. Hope that changes.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 1:15 PM
Wasder - very eloquent...and you are in the music business ;) - hahaha
Posted by: gemini10 at March 19, 2009 1:17 PM
LISTEN ALL.....part of the reason What doesn't get called out on all his racist shit is because we're all tired of doing it and it is all too inane and predictable. making sense of the off-the-meds tirades is often difficult and circuitous.
You're letting a common enemy (most of the time, but not all...did you see his comments on The Invisible Man yesterday?) divide you. I think you all stand for essentially the same thing but devote varrying degrees of outrage at it. It's only a blog. If you want to battle real racism there are many other sites for that.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 1:19 PM
Don't think the solution to an excess of political correctness is more political correctness (in the form of shunning certain posters or seeking to broaden the range of 'unacceptable' jokes).
Posted by: etson at March 19, 2009 1:20 PM
"Sorry we won't we you there. Hope that changes"
Sorry we won't see you there....
WTF is "white guilt." Never mind.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 1:21 PM
"Now I'm being accused of 'white guilt'?"
Sorry! not accusing anyone of anything. I was trying to speak for myself and not anyone else. I do think that it is easier to call out winelover or propjoe than What and what the reason for that is I don't know.
And yes DIBS I do agree with you that trying to call out every ridiculous things that comes out of his mouth is a losing and tiresome cause.
Posted by: wasder at March 19, 2009 1:23 PM
Benson in a desperate bid for attention and relevance has become the What!
Decides his compass is the sainted moral one for the group.
Calls out a poster for not abiding by said code.
Cuts and pastes quotes.
Points angry finger at dissenters.
Sits back and enjoys the resulting fray.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 1:24 PM
"Don't think the solution to an excess of political correctness is more political correctness (in the form of shunning certain posters or seeking to broaden the range of 'unacceptable' jokes)."
Etson;
Once again, I agree with you.
Posted by: benson at March 19, 2009 1:25 PM
Snappy- you said it well, and so did wasder. I think its more difficult for some of us to watch how the What gets treated- and there is a good deal of truth in benson's comment- especially those of us who have been in the line of Whatfire.
He has said some truly awful things , and very often to people who don't deserve it, and I'll mention Montrose. Some of the things he has said to her would have found him lying in a fetal position with his balls kicked up into his nose if he said it in the street. I'm not able to overlook that stuff. This may be a cyber community, but it is a community, and it's now going offline as well. I love the intense, and often brutally honest discussions we have- its healthy and it educates. But the anger and resentment What brings out is neither. If we all met on the street and the What said some of the stuff he posts here, no one would tolerate it. So why tolerate it here?
Posted by: bxgrl at March 19, 2009 1:28 PM
Would anyone like to join me in 'deep breathing' exercises? In through the nose.....out slowly through the mouth :) Feels good, don't it?!
I think we are all going to have to agree to disagree on how to deal with this issue. Everyone will deal with the What in his/her own way and that will simply be that.
In through the nose....out slowly through the mouth :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at March 19, 2009 1:30 PM
Thanks Benson, but I partly meant that I think that people should continue to engage the What as he has the same free speech rights as all of us.
Not that I have yet had the energy to do so myself!
Posted by: etson at March 19, 2009 1:30 PM
Snappy;
Good idea!
Iiinnnnhaaaaallllleeeeeee.....Exxxxxhhhhhalllleee.
I wish that you were coming to the party tonight.
Posted by: benson at March 19, 2009 1:32 PM
"I think we are all going to have to agree to disagree on how to deal with this issue. Everyone will deal with the What in his/her own way and that will simply be that."
I think this pretty much sums up my opinion, thanks Snappy.
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 1:32 PM
Yeah Rob,I agree - can we please talk about Cats or fecal matter stat?
Posted by: dirty_hipster at March 19, 2009 1:33 PM
Benson, I'll try to make the next get together. I'd love to meet you :)
Ok, now back to our regularly scheduled program:
CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS
CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS
CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS
CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at March 19, 2009 1:34 PM
OK, what will we talk about next???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 1:35 PM
natasha henstridge?
Posted by: dirty_hipster at March 19, 2009 1:36 PM
I said hateful things to MM in the HOTD thread because she likes the colors.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 1:37 PM
sorry natasha richardson
Posted by: dirty_hipster at March 19, 2009 1:37 PM
Every time it rains I want to wear a Hawaiian shirt to work in protest.
Trouble is, hard to find a classic Hawaiian shirt.
Posted by: infinitejester at March 19, 2009 1:37 PM
Etson;
I am not in disagreement.
You probably missed it, but I wrote a letter to The What about a week ago. In it I told him that I would engage with him in a civil dialogue, if he would do likewise, but that the ball was in his court, given his past "performances". I told him that I am not going to write to him simply to serve as fodder for one of his street performances.
Even if I were to engage, that would not change my mind about him, specifically, he is a racist, and certainly not someone worthy of praise, or treated like a cute rascal. He is what he is, The What, a vile racist, from his own written record.
Posted by: benson at March 19, 2009 1:37 PM
OMFG!!! I just had a *Rob* moment!
So, I have a very important meeting today in a few. I go to the bathroom to spruce myself up. I look in the mirror and realize my glasses are crooked. (Yes, I wear glasses. Big hair, plastic pumps and eyeglasses, I’m a sight to behold). I take off my glasses and bend them a bit to fix them, they’re still crooked, so I bend the frame some more, still crooked, bend the frame again and SNAP….my frames broke in half at the bridge…..aaaarrrggghhh.
For goodness sake, anything that could go wrong regarding this meeting is going wrong. I can’t show up to the meeting with tape holding my glasses together. I’m going without glasses and can hopefully see enough to not make a fool of myself.
Oh, and if I show up tonight without glasses and don’t say hi to you it’s because you’re a blur and I don’t recognize you or can’t read your nametag….not because I’m a biatch, I swear.
Hope to see you later; well technically, maybe I won’t ‘see’ you.
And I’m sure as I’m walking on Atlantic I’ll slip on the hill or step in poop as a black cat crosses in front of me.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at March 19, 2009 1:37 PM
Ok, big admission here...I guess I live under a rock. Until this skiing accident hit the news, I had never even heard of this Natasha woman. But, of course, I will say a prayer for all the people she loved and cared about and all the people who loved and cared about her. I gotta get out more.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at March 19, 2009 1:39 PM
im very pro color and my den when i lived in chelsea was that purple. but seriously that color purple and all those shades of wood look heinous together.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at March 19, 2009 1:41 PM
"CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS
CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS
CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS
CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS"
Oooooooooohhh noooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm outta here.
See, that's all you have to do if you want me gone!!!
Posted by: benson at March 19, 2009 1:44 PM
BRG! I'm So Sorry! That is horrible!
I do applaud your getting both cats, slipping and poop into one sentence. Good submission.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 1:44 PM
Good luck with the meeting, BRG.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 1:44 PM
"I said hateful things to MM in the HOTD thread because she likes the colors."
You colorist you!
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 1:44 PM
ALOL one of my coworkers said she just friended simon from real housewives of nyc on facebook and that she's in neighbor!
*r*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at March 19, 2009 1:45 PM
benson....we had a tabby that would "sit" and "Shake" on command. Even you, cat hater that you are, have to be intrigued by that.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 1:46 PM
Benson, come back and enjoy the kitty love fest! Petting a cat is proven to lower your blood pressure and reduce stress :) Did you pet your kitty today? (get your minds out of the gutter folks! i mean kitty cats!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at March 19, 2009 1:46 PM
"Talk about the law of unintended consequences! We will now be discussing The What all afternoon."
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 11:58 AM
It might not be too often, but sometimes I do nail it.
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 1:48 PM
cobble.... I said I was a "purplist" and that there was no place in this world for purple people or purple walls.
I am not a "colorist" as I do not hate all other colors. There you go again making an illogical leap again. I may not be a ROY G BIV supporter but its just the "V" part I hate. Indigo is different.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 1:49 PM
BRG - As a sometimes glasses wearing individual, I feel your pain!
Good luck with the meeting!
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 1:49 PM
Biff, I heard some girls talking about you...they said you "nail it" quite well! Ha! j/k
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at March 19, 2009 1:50 PM
I hate david dukes too- but he comes from a background of wealth and privilege and in all honesty, the white experience in this country is vastly different than what the Black experience has been. Dukes was never a minority and believe me when I say I am no fan of political correctness when its a cover up for hypocrisy. That said, a Sonny Carson is far more understandable to me than a David Dukes- and I think anyone who is in a minority can understand my reasoning on that. It's a survival tactic.
And now, off to lunch.
Posted by: bxgrl at March 19, 2009 1:51 PM
"I may not be a ROY G BIV supporter"
I guess good 'ole Roy wasn't a petite Asian man :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at March 19, 2009 1:51 PM
Snappy, flattery will get you everywhere!
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 1:52 PM
dibs- I' so shocked. Violet is one of my favorite colours (and I spelled it that way so I can be labelled an anglophile snob :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at March 19, 2009 1:54 PM
Well, it's not getting me a job as your non-nail-clipping-in-public assistant! :)
Gotta run folks...exercise calls!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at March 19, 2009 1:55 PM
Snappy...if you're going to insult me and call me out on my ethnic love interests you better have the cajones to show up tonight. :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 1:55 PM
I stand corrected DIBS, I didn't realize you were simply purplist. However, I ask you to reconsider supporting ROY G BIV, we need a rainbow coalition here, and ROY G BIV is THE on the cutting edge of the 'anti-colorist' movement.
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 1:55 PM
DIBS - what's your opinion on mauve?
Posted by: dittoburg at March 19, 2009 1:57 PM
bxgrl...actually I considered getting a period tiered mahogany planter that I could fill with violets to complete the 'old lady look" of my Victorian parlour!!!!
Maybe I should clarify. Nothing should be purple except violets and iris.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 1:59 PM
cobblehiller, please refrain from talking to DIBS. You are only encouranging his anti-Violet tirades.
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 2:00 PM
If anyone says anything about the colors red, white and green, I'm coming back fighting...cat talk or no cat talk!!
:-)
Posted by: benson at March 19, 2009 2:00 PM
Mauve is for faggots, ditto. As is teal. Is that clear enough?
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 2:01 PM
and eggplant.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 2:01 PM
Are you Mexican, benson??? ROTFLMMFAO
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 2:02 PM
Very funny Biff!
Dave, How doe you feel about Reflex Blue?
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 2:03 PM
Benson's Hungarian?
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 2:03 PM
LOL, THL. I was at dinner in Schenctady with my family and we were in The Stockade Inn and we had this big battle as to whether the walls were brown or purple (as I said they were). The waitress told us the they were eggplant (aubergine for our British & Aussie friends).
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 2:04 PM
I knew Gary Webb. I thought the Merc abandoning him/not standing behind him was just terrible.
Posted by: mopar at March 19, 2009 2:04 PM
Oh I'm sorry, he's from Madagascar! My bad.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 2:04 PM
Mauve is very Fall 08. This season is all about neon.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at March 19, 2009 2:05 PM
State Dept. has just put out a travel warning for Madagascar.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 2:05 PM
When I was last in Mexico, I saw a lot of fences painted red white & green. I was nostalgic for Queens.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 2:06 PM
I'm Team Blue.
Posted by: infinitejester at March 19, 2009 2:06 PM
I blue someone last night.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 2:08 PM
While I really don't like "purple" walls I love the brown that has that hint of purple. I'm not sure I'd call it eggplant. Would make for a very sexy bedding.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 2:09 PM
I'm Baaaaccckkkkkk! I had to check in with my Psych Doctor. I told him "I'm OK and can function in society", LMMFAO.
Owww Weee! Where do I start, Oh right here: "You probably missed it, but I wrote a letter to The What about a week ago. In it I told him that I would engage with him in a civil dialogue, if he would do likewise, but that the ball was in his court, given his past "performances".
This is disingenuous Benson! It's like if you stop you belief system I will have a dialogue with you and I told you to "Suck Balls"! That should have been the end of it but NO! You have to poke you nose into every fight I having with other posters Benson. If I a such a "Racist" then you do you engage me and giving me more credibility??
I posted a long Harangue on Ronald Reagan and no one commented about that! The Iran-Contra Affair was grounds for Impeachment Benson unlike Mr. Sonny Carson was expressing his opinion like every other American citizen. Sonny Carson did not ignore the wishes of Congress and initiated a Covert Action and back funneled Drugs onto America streets! This is history benson, not something "The What" made up!
I see why you don't want to engage me Benson, you rater attack someone else connected to me. You see that's a punk move and I hope everyone tonight put you on blast because of it!
Let me explain something to everyone. I could say this statement: "I HATE WHITE PEOPLE" and guess what??? The war will be over. I can sell my Asshats targeting system on Ebay and sell my bunker and go home. But this is my issue "GENTRIFICATION"!!!!!
This is a very complex issue affecting all New Yorkers. Deep down in my heart I wish you City Hijacking dirtbags would go home. I wish all the Asshead developers go bankrupt and maybe you can stop destroying this great city. Maybe you can stop the Plutocratic Criminal Hijack machine on devaluing you currency!
Have a great time tonight and remember that I was the one who brought you together...
The What (Brooklyn's Finest!!!!!)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at March 19, 2009 2:13 PM
If you take an oil painting class they tell you like 12 colors to buy - burnt sienna, umber, mars black, rose madder, china white. From there you can make your own palette.
Posted by: infinitejester at March 19, 2009 2:14 PM
He's right on that last sentence.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 2:16 PM
I am also anti purple, but I am against color mixing in general. That's right orange, green, gray.... you are abominations of nature.
Keep the primary colors seperate but equal
Posted by: Troy McClure at March 19, 2009 2:18 PM
What...I have repeatedly said that Bed Stuy was "gentrified" by the people who have been the long-standing residents who were, incidentally, black.
You have to explain what aspects of your definition of "gentrification" you don't like because, to most of us, it sounds like you don't like anyone "non black" moving into any neighborhood that is predominantly black, whether its a nice place or a hell hole!!!! As long as its stays black that's all that matters. Am I wrong???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 2:19 PM
well, I would love to join you all for cocktails tonight except that most of you fall in one or more of the following catagories:
a)psychotic
b)sex addicts
c)babes lost in the woods
d)totally self-absorbed.
So I pass.
Posted by: Mrs de Dough at March 19, 2009 2:19 PM
"He's right on that last sentence."
That the war is going to end someday?
Actually, I couldn't agree more with The What on his thoughts re: Reagan. I'm disgusted his reign is looked back on so fondly by so many. He was a disgrace.
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 2:20 PM
The colors throughout my house here are a light yellow in the parlour, a light gray in the family room, sage in the kitchen, a grey-sage in the bedroom, a sea-foam green in the master bath, a rose coral in the other bath and a gray/blue in the second bedroom. Hallways are a deep beige.
How can any of you argue with those?????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 2:21 PM
Good riddance, Mrs de Dough. We'll toast one to you.
No, Biff....this one...
Have a great time tonight and remember that I was the one who brought you together...
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 2:23 PM
"Plus this Covert Operation produced Blow-Back in the form of Drugs being sold on the streets in America in most Black neighborhoods..."
Yes, while Nancy Reagan was telling us all to "Just Say No To Drugs"
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 2:25 PM
"I am also anti purple, but I am against color mixing in general. That's right orange, green, gray.... you are abominations of nature.
Keep the primary colors seperate but equal"
You better go talk to Josef Albers about that Troy!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Albers
http://www.albersfoundation.org/Albers.php?inc=Galleries&i=J_1
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 2:25 PM
DIBS, I was just kidding. I knew which one you meant. He is absolutely right. The last gathering on October 16 was because of The What.
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 2:27 PM
Nope, almost the same as my house. We didn't even need to paint when we moved in. The previous owner had each room painted in various light neutral colors all very unobtrusive. You really barely notice them.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 2:27 PM
"Good riddance, Mrs de Dough. We'll toast one to you."
I second the first part, but I won't waste a drink on M dM.
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 2:27 PM
I love sea foam green for bathrooms...that sounds really nice DIBS.
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 2:28 PM
And here's a recent insightful comment from you Mrs de Dough.......
There's the Myrtle avenue bus.
The last time I rode, it was like a scene out of some Third World country where the population is fleeing in advance of some occupation force. It was not lovely. It was enough to put you off public transportation for ever actually.
Without a car, much of that area is pretty inconvenient.
Posted by: Mrs de Dough at March 19, 2009 11:38 AM in response to The Myrtle Miracle?
You married to John Rocker?????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 2:30 PM
QOTD!!!
***
well, I would love to join you all for cocktails tonight except that most of you fall in one or more of the following catagories:
a)psychotic
b)sex addicts
c)babes lost in the woods
d)totally self-absorbed.
So I pass.
***
Posted by: PitbullNYC at March 19, 2009 2:30 PM
The Natasha Richardson thing has been really haunting me the last couple of days. And also reminding me of exactly why I don't ski. I am sure there are plenty of people on here that ski but for me its just not worth it. I used to say "jews don't ski" because I'm jewish and I don't ski, but since then I have met jewish skiers. Either way, I don't ski...
Posted by: wasder at March 19, 2009 2:35 PM
"You have to explain what aspects of your definition of "gentrification" you don't like because, to most of us, it sounds like you don't like anyone "non black" moving into any neighborhood that is predominantly black, whether its a nice place or a hell hole!!!! As long as its stays black that's all that matters. Am I wrong???"
I just brought a wireless Mac Keyboard and I don't want to smash it it against my HD Monitor. I will leave that topic for some other time...
I want to know Where is BENSON!!!!! I want to know why any of the Retards (except Biff and No you are not a Retard) did not parse the Reagan Rant????
The is a degree of Hypocrisy on Brownstoner is disgusting, I really mean it!! Whuh was correct that you are "intellectual cowards"!!!
Benson where are you?? I'm waiting....
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at March 19, 2009 2:36 PM
wasder, I heard a doctor talking about the accident. Of course it's all conjecture, but the way it happened and the fact she couldn't be saved made the doctor suspect she had a pre-existing condition. Either way, it's so sad, especially for her children.
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 2:38 PM
I went snowboarding once (and only once) and banged my head to the point of seeing stars. Kids, don't go on the slopes without a helmet!
I used to be really clever before the fall but ever since then I've asdnboiwtkano if;aa/rfsd................zzzzzzzzzz
Posted by: the chicken at March 19, 2009 2:38 PM
Reminds me of the "Shortest list in the world" jokes, wasder. I hope we don't rehash this whole racist crap all over again this late in the afternoon because of your snide remark. :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 2:39 PM
chicken--ha ha...
Biff--they are doing the autopsy today so we should know something soon. when learning to ski I think the most common accident is when the skis get ahead of the body and you fall down backwards--which could bring the back of your head into contact with hard packed snow (not unlike hitting plain old hard ground). Could have caused some kind of slow leakage of blood which would explain why she didn't feel anything until later. Either way, awful awful story and she sounded like a wonderful person.
Posted by: wasder at March 19, 2009 2:42 PM
"the way it happened and the fact she couldn't be saved made the doctor suspect she had a pre-existing condition."
Interesting, this is the conclusion that BH and I came to this morning. Me too wasder, it's kind of stunning, and she's close to my age, and people my age aren't supposed to die yet.
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 2:42 PM
I voted for Reagan. That was all many years ago. Just like Clinton. Not worth the time and effort to discuss at this point. Christ, no one's even interested in talking about Bush anymore. Get your ass out of the past and start looking forward. This is a testing of NYC during this crisis and my bet is that it will come out just fine and will remain "Capital of the World." Neighborhoods throughout Brooklyn are doing fine. They're on a path to betterment no matter what their makeup looks like. No one cares to argue that kind of divisive crap either.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 2:43 PM
"I see why you don't want to engage me Benson, you rater attack someone else connected to me. You see that's a punk move...!"
"Let me explain something to everyone.... my issue "GENTRIFICATION"!!!!!"
I think you've summed it up there What!
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 2:44 PM
never heard of her..
related to skiing, i went on a ski trip for my birthday a few years ago with my ex and his friend. i never skiid before. there was a green supposedly easy path to go on for beginners. anwyay, take the air trolley up the mountain and i realized just then how afraid of heights i actually am, especially in nature. i think id die if i went to the grand canyon. i literally almost started crying. it was the first time i put skiis ON and i couldnt walk in them even. they tried to give me a mini lesson than wanted to push me down the slope. and it looked like a HUGE f'ing mountain to me! i was like no no no. then this little 14 year old brat goes oh it's easy! whatever! anyway i dont regret my decision now to go down that huge mountain. even my bf and his friend who skiid before said it wound up being hard and they fell a few times and it took them forever to get down the whole thing!!!
seriously, big long sticks do not belong on human beings feet, especially on top of slippery snow covered mountains!
just go sledding or something. it's the same thing.
*r*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at March 19, 2009 2:46 PM
cobblehiller, I couldn't begin to try to explain what the doctor said, but it was basically that in a "normal" case, they would have had hours and hours to operate and save the person.
"biff do you ski?"
not so much, although I will brewski tonight. But I basically learned to ice skate at the same time I learned to walk and I found learning to ski fairly easy after skating for years as the motions are very similar. It was kind of like skating on a hill.
Speaking of helmets, I have been taking my kids ice skating over the past couple of years and I insist they wear their helmets when skating. I am amazed by how few kids wear them on the ice.
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 2:48 PM
I used to LOVE skiing. I went and broker my ankle though (not skiing) so I can't fit the boot now that I have plates and pins all through my ankle. My foot can't bend back towards my leg enough to accommodate the "lean forward" of the boot. Besides that, even if it could I can't have anything pressing against the screws it irritates the surrounding tissues too much.
I miss skiing. :(
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 2:51 PM
"biff do you ski?"
not so much, although I will brewski tonight.
Exceptionally lame. Like old jewish vaudevillians!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 2:52 PM
"Like old jewish vaudevillians!!!"
DIBS, what the hell do you think I am?!
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 2:53 PM
yours sincerely,
Digusted in Brooklyn.
Posted by: dittoburg at March 19, 2009 2:53 PM
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Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 2:54 PM
I miss skiing too. I lived in Chicago from 1980 to 1994 and we'd always go to Utah. I miss Alta and the Alta Peruvian.
I grew up in Albany and we'd always go north to Vermont or NH...even a night trip to West Mt in Glens Falls....NEVER south to anywhere that's be full of goddam New Yorkers...Hunter comes to mind.
I did injure my head once and required 3-4 stitches but luckily that never had any lasting effect.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 2:55 PM
"This is a testing of NYC during this crisis and my bet is that it will come out just fine and will remain "Capital of the World." Neighborhoods throughout Brooklyn are doing fine. "
One of the reason I get along with Cobblehiller is we has born and raised in Brooklyn. We (from our perspectives) have experienced the good and the bad of New York. Most of the posters at Brownstoner never saw the Dark Side of New York City. My fear is when things get bad, the retards are going to flee bringing down the hood. I write from experience not watching Sex in the City or Marry Tyler Moore but hardcore urban living.
Oh my last post to Benson was 45 minutes ago. Where is he??? Yoo Hoo Benson, come out to playa.....
One think that the Assheads can count on "The What" steps to the plate! Now again the whole "Benson" thing is being put to rest. I called him out and he did not show up. Now I know his "Fan Club" will say "he's not around" and that "Scarecrow" thing, Blow me!
Now for now on if benson Attacks me or someone connected to me, please ignore him...
BENSON=PWNED!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at March 19, 2009 2:57 PM
"I did injure my head once and required 3-4 stitches but luckily that never had any lasting effect."
Says who?
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 2:57 PM
This just in from the autopsy...
"The NYC medical examiner's office says Natasha Richardson died of blunt impact to the head.
A spokeswoman for the ME says the death has been ruled an accident. The cause of death is "epidural hematoma due to blunt impact to the head."
Dr. Wouter Schievink, a neurosurgeon at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, tells TMZ a common example of someone suffering an epidural hematoma is when a baseball player is hit in the side of the head by a pitch.
He also says that an epidural hematoma can be detected by a CT scan. But sometimes if the scan is performed early on, the injury might not be detected."
No mention of pre-existing but I guess that doesn't mean that there wasn't something...
Posted by: wasder at March 19, 2009 3:00 PM
"My fear is when things get bad, the retards are going to flee bringing down the hood"
Apparently can't live with 'em or without 'em.
Posted by: dittoburg at March 19, 2009 3:00 PM
I have been knocked out cold a number of times. Don't know if I would be a smarter man if that hadn't happened.
Posted by: lechacal at March 19, 2009 3:02 PM
DIBS,
What has done what any successful demagogue has done, picked a permanent and ever-changing enemy and a cause without practical remedy. He thinks that if the economy tanks all the way into a depression, then gentrification will reverse itself, so he roots for everyone to fail so that they can abandon their houses at a fraction of current value. There is no nuance at all, and no end to the straw men he might identify as stand-ins for his enemy.
Montrose has written eloquently about the form of gentrification you describe, neighborhoods picking themselves up in the aftermath of the 60s-70s fiscal crisis and improving themselves to the point where others want in. I'm no fan of unbridled free-markets. I believe in a strong regulatory and planning role for government. But I simply do not see how you "win" a war against gentrification. If property becomes more valuable, someone with more means is going to pay for it whenever an owner wants to cash in on the increase. Gentrification is often rough, and governent and community organizations have arole in trying to find ways to curb excesses and help people who are displaced. But there are also a lot of lower and middle class homeowners of all backgrounds in some of the neighborhoods What seeks to defend against gentrification who now have the means to retire beyond their wildest dreams because they made the best of of the run-up in home values over the last three decades.
Many things have raised property values in formerly "ungentrified" areas -- drops in crime, parents oprganizing to improve neighborhoods schools, community organizations, gardeners, etc. A depression isn't going to bring back high crime and de-gentrify the City. The City's finances are so much better managed now than in the 60s and 70s that drops in revenues are not going to take the same toll. All those empty lots and burned out buildings were the results of decades of disinvestment and destruction (Cross Bronx and Sheridan Expressways anyone?).
In short, there is simply no way for What to get what he wants, which allows him to tilt at windmills here ad nauseum. The frustrating part of What's arguments -- apart from the vulgarisms -- is that he never spells out, nor thinks he has to, what he is for. Does he want a freeze on home sales? 100% tax on home sale profits? Racial segregation by neighborhood? A few highly publicized muggings to scare new people away? He just wants the tanking economy to destry everyone he thinks is a gentrifying asshat, while somehow leaving everyone else alone. But an economy that does that will also cause the loss of many more jobs of those in the communities he thinks he is trying to save from gentrification. The enemy seems to be anyone who remotely seems to embrace anything tangentially related to gentrification. If you like a coffee shop that opened where a laundromat used to be, you're an asshat. If you worry about crime, you're an asshat (or its variations), or perhaps even a racist.
I have nothing against the feelings that may lie behind some of What's statements, but real debate and substantive argument is impossible. As much as I am sympathetic to housing and community organizers who do their best to help communities address the many inequities that exist in our City, I see no way to engage meaningfully with What. I don't hate him, but I can't attend to most of his postings as charitably as our good friend cobblehiller and others.
That said, I did what you did and agreed with his post on the HOD thread.
Posted by: slopefarm at March 19, 2009 3:04 PM
"My fear is when things get bad, the retards are going to flee bringing down the hood."
What...this seems to be a markedly different point of view than what many of us have interpreted your stance to be in the past. And, one that I'm in agreement with and siding with you on.
Retards or not, the vast majority of us have no plans to flee. We, along with our neighbors both new and old, will not let any hood be brought down.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 3:05 PM
I smacked my head on a glass coffee table when I was a kid, and got a few stitches...and now you know why I am the way I am! ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 3:06 PM
Well written, slopefarm. I don't have the patience to spell things out at such length but I'll say that you have hit each and every point and I'm in total agreement with your assessment of the issues and, rightly or wrongly, what cultural issues drive people's motivations and prejudices.
However, as I just pointed out above, that sentence that What just posted is markedly different from what we have been hearing.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 3:08 PM
Cobble-
Thanks for offending my delicate sensibilities. I went to Mr. Albers' wikipedia entry and was disgusted by the co-mingling of colors. To see red and yellow forced into these mutuations of pigmentation was truly too much to bare.
When will you people learn that God just did not intend for colors to mix.
Posted by: Troy McClure at March 19, 2009 3:10 PM
As a youngster I ate a rabbit turd once and that has apparently done me no harm.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 3:12 PM
wasder, thanks for the update. Do you have and breaking news on BRG's interview?
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 3:12 PM
Slopefarm--kudos on your post. You are a mighty sensible man.
Posted by: wasder at March 19, 2009 3:15 PM
Troy...have tou seen the new Tide (I think) commercials with Tim Gunn from Project Runway. I always laugh when he's pointing out a faded dress and says something like "There is nothing in the world so TRAGIC as a faded essential wardrobe element...."
Your thoughts on colors seem to be as forceful reminding me of this.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 3:15 PM
Don't watch much TV DIBS, too many tertiary colors nowadays
Posted by: Troy McClure at March 19, 2009 3:18 PM
DIBS,
You are right about that last comment. I don't know that he will see your point. That is why there is no real argument with What. He just rants. There is no exchange. If you box in a position, he just turns 20 degeres and fires at a new version of the target. Pointless rage.
See you at Floyd.
Posted by: slopefarm at March 19, 2009 3:20 PM
does the What realize when he's been pwned or is he oblivious?
Posted by: dittoburg at March 19, 2009 3:23 PM
"See you at Floyd."
slopefarm, really glad you'll be able to make it. I was considering you a maybe. Looking forward to seeing you again.
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 3:23 PM
Troy...you must go absolutely insane in a flower garden. Is there a word for this malady?
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 3:24 PM
"When will you people learn that God just did not intend for colors to mix."
Good g*d man! You have got to edumacate yourself! Some of the greatest paintings in the world have - please don't faint - MIXED colors! Nature herself mixes colors in flowers, in cat fur [like how I mixed cats into the convo?] and in the very fruits and vegetables we eat everyday!
Mixed colors are everywhere! Suck it up Troy!
And not for nuthin' but that's the second time today that I've heard the phrase 'you people' - I'm not talking to you anymore. Or any of you people for that matter! ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 3:24 PM
"You people" is code.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 3:26 PM
Heya - How late do you think you all will be there until?
Posted by: gemini10 at March 19, 2009 3:31 PM
Boy the Targeting Systems just went Code Red!
"What has done what any successful demagogue has done, picked a permanent and ever-changing enemy and a cause without practical remedy. He thinks that if the economy tanks all the way into a depression, then gentrification will reverse itself, "
No that has already happen. The moves by the FED yesterday was a all out panic! They are printing money for bad assets.
"so he roots for everyone to fail so that they can abandon their houses at a fraction of current value."
That has already happen. Pleas look at the first post post.
"Montrose has written eloquently about the form of gentrification you describe, neighborhoods picking themselves up in the aftermath of the 60s-70s fiscal crisis and improving themselves to the point where others want in."
Allow me to pull out my RPG and blow that assumption out of the sky! These Brownstones have been standing for over 90 years and anyone at anytime could've purchased one. Now why now this Hyper-Love for Brownstones?? It's call HOT MONEY. Remember 911 (Oh you just moved in 2006, sorry) Alan Greensperm lowered rates to 1% after the NASDAQ meltdown. Now you have Jr. Donald Trumps popping out of the woodwork and now every Asshead is a Real Estate expert. Why did anyone buy Brownstones when Rudy Giuliani was mayor??? *** Crickets*** There was no hot money to fund the upcoming Mind F*** for the retards! Now here comes Gentrification! Here comes the Developers! Here come the Hipsters! Here come the Retards Here comes WHATEVER! Now a working class family get pushed out because Josh, Megan, Bill and Jane wants to pay 2100.00 for a studio in the Ghetto!!! Now the fun begins-- Asshats whining about every thing and this gave birth to "The What" (Dave here is your answer)!
"A depression isn't going to bring back high crime and de-gentrify the City. The City's finances are so much better managed now than in the 60s and 70s that drops in revenues are not going to take the same toll. All those empty lots and burned out buildings were the results of decades of disinvestment and destruction (Cross Bronx and Sheridan Expressways anyone?)."
See this is Cognitive Dissonance in it's purest form. This retard just moved into New York and going to lecture someone about urban planning. Please take you computer and smash you face with it! If you need any help with that call me..
The What (Fire!)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at March 19, 2009 3:33 PM
You never know, gemini but I'd say 11:00 or so.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 3:34 PM
Someone could use a drink.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 3:36 PM
I'm trying to figure out where I fit in Mrs DeLough's characterizations.
Posted by: benson at March 19, 2009 3:37 PM
I'll be there until about 9pm or whenever BH wants to leave - whichever comes first!
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 3:38 PM
but but I was just about to launch into a scientifically vetted and SERIOUS discussion of how colors is determined in cats and how this relates to those of the calico and tortishell variety- which, by the way, is genetically tied to the gender gene.And I nintend to prove that gary is a color found in naytch-chah.
Posted by: bxgrl at March 19, 2009 3:39 PM
"Someone could use a drink."
Yeah, I'm ready now myself, but I'll wait for the bar!
"I'm trying to figure out where I fit in Mrs DeLough's characterizations."
I wouldn't bother benson, it's not worth it.
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 3:40 PM
benson...its Mrs de Dough, get it?
You gunna be wearin da red white and green sweatbands and wristbands tonight???
That was a joke benson, a joke.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 3:41 PM
"I'm trying to figure out where I fit in Mrs DeLough's characterizations."
benson, I am guessing you are all of the above.
gemini10, I will very likely stay past 11. What time were you thinking of showing up?
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 3:41 PM
Let's recap shall we. The retards always accuse me on ducking issues but I put out the big smash and I hear ** Crickets*** Where are you?????? Huh???? What's going on, I am right here. OK It's been fun!
The What (ROTFLMMFAO)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at March 19, 2009 3:41 PM
"gary is a color found in naytch-chah."
You know Gary Naytch too? ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 3:42 PM
ROTW -- I have been living in Brooklyn since 1985. You know that from previous exchanges we have had on other threads a while back.
Do you have any evidence to back up your suggestion that NYC's finances are in a comparable position as 1975? Do you actually understand all the financing moves that led up to NYC nearly going bankrupt in 1975 and do you know what NYC's financing and debt obligation practices are today as compared with 35 years ago? Do you know how much of the City's current budget goes to debt service as compared with 1974? Do you know what the City is paying in interest on its various bond issues now as compared with then? How about ratings for its bonds? The City's financial position at this difficult time is not merely a function of real estate tax revenues. I am curious as to your knowledge and historical perspective on the City's finances.
Posted by: slopefarm at March 19, 2009 3:42 PM
bxgrl...friends of ours in PA had a male with two black spots and the rest of the calico colors. They took him to the vet to get neutered and the vet told them they could make a lot of money breeding him. They neutered him anyway.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 3:42 PM
cobblehiller, I am working from home this afternoon and am so tempted to just walk over to Floyd and start the party early!
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 3:45 PM
Cripes Biff, they let you work from home too. See, I could do that very well. I can login to Brownstoner from anywhere, really!
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 3:48 PM
I just want to make sure that no one coming to the party has bed bugs.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 3:50 PM
See you all around 7:15 or so.
Posted by: slopefarm at March 19, 2009 3:51 PM
"ROTW -- I have been living in Brooklyn since 1985. You know that from previous exchanges we have had on other threads a while back."
Since 1963! Next!
"Do you have any evidence to back up your suggestion that NYC's finances are in a comparable position as 1975? Do you actually understand all the financing moves that led up to NYC nearly going bankrupt in 1975 and do you know what NYC's financing and debt obligation practices are today as compared with 35 years ago? "
Where have you been? There are states and local municipalities take are going broke. Look at California they have a 38 billion dollar deficit. Gov Patterson said that NYS has a 6 Billion dollar short fall! You know that street um, Wall Street?? Thangs don't look so good now right?
"I am curious as to your knowledge and historical perspective on the City's finances."
Here is one Ford to NY Drop Dead
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at March 19, 2009 3:51 PM
cobblehiller, I rarely do it. I could do it more often but I actually prefer to go into the office where there are no kids jumping on me asking to play foosball! Plus, when I'm in the office my wife believes me when I say I'm busy. When I'm home she can see that I spend most of my time posting here.
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 3:54 PM
slopefarm, your point was just proven once again. His ability to discuss any of the details is nonexistent.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 3:55 PM
"I just want to make sure that no one coming to the party has bed bugs."
Hm, just checked, just a kitty cat on the bed, no bugs in it!
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 3:56 PM
Ohhhh, look at this house guys! It's only 599K but it's in Jersey City (on a very good block- doctors row) and it has vinyl siding. Look inside though! I like it, I like it a lot!
http://www.coldwellbankermoves.com/Property/PropertyDetails.aspx?PropertyID=1353384
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 3:56 PM
And no inclination to go down to the panelled basement and play the drums.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 3:57 PM
"One of the reason I get along with Cobblehiller is we has born and raised in Brooklyn. We (from our perspectives) have experienced the good and the bad of New York. Most of the posters at Brownstoner never saw the Dark Side of New York City. My fear is when things get bad, the retards are going to flee bringing down the hood"
There were hard times all over the city- not just in Brooklyn. You have no idea what most of us have or have not seen or lived through- that's an assumption on your part. The Bronx was no picnic either, you know. As much as I love Brooklyn I don't find that a qualification for being better than everyone else. And if things get tough, I'm not bailing on my neighborhood.
People like DIBS, wasder, me, MM and many others moved here because we love it- I have no trust fund. MM? Her loyalty to Bed-Stuy and CHN is far beyond anyone I can mention. SO what if she wasn't born and raised in Brooklyn- what a ridiculous dichotomy. how many years should she be here before you accept her as a fellow Broooklynite? I chose to live in Brooklyn most of my adult life. I think that more than qualifies me to be a Brooklynite too.
Posted by: bxgrl at March 19, 2009 3:57 PM
im wearing my special purple taco bell contacts just for tonight!!! i totally forgot ive been carrying them around in my nintendo bag.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at March 19, 2009 3:58 PM
DIBS, very good! But that was not my basement, thankfully.
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 3:58 PM
true. has anyone ever been or lived somewhere where it's nothing but townies? gack. no offense to any brooklyn townies here or anything
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at March 19, 2009 4:00 PM
And those who leave Brooklyn are even worse!!!! Lodi??? Come on, how lame is that????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 4:00 PM
cobble- I HATE when I am at my most brilliant, only to destroy it all with one slip of the keyboard. I meant gray. Apologies to Gary, tho' I don't know him :-)
DIBS- NOOOoooooooooo.........they didn't??!!! Very very rare animal.
Posted by: bxgrl at March 19, 2009 4:02 PM
I've always liked Natasha Richardson's work, and she always impressed me as a likable and lovely person who was obviously very much in love with her husband (and who wouldn't be) and kids. I guess, in part because celebrity was hers at birth, she always had a calm about her that was refreshing. Several obits I read mentioned her "luminous" persona, and I have to agree. Her sudden death was tragic, and my thoughts and prayers go to her family and friends.
Celebrities seem to have it so good, and their lives in front of the camera make their personal tragedies public, something that doesn't happen to most of us, but their grief and sadness is something we all know and recognize in our own lives. I was saddened when Princess Diana died, although I never gave her much thought, and I am saddened now. My own mother died suddenly, on an ordinary day, and I know the shock and disbelief that accompanies the event. My most sincere condolences go into the universe for them.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at March 19, 2009 4:03 PM
true. has anyone ever been or lived somewhere where it's nothing but townies? gack. no offense to any brooklyn townies here or anything
*rob*
There is one thing worse, rob. Being a "townie" in Albany, we absolutely detested all the obnoxious New Yorkers coming up to SUNY!!!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 4:04 PM
Hey, I left Brookyln! Some of us had to cause we'd been priced out by asshats!
I'm kidding, about the asshats, not about having to leave.
Did you look at the pics of that house yet? So pretty and it's one block from an enormous park.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 4:04 PM
dibs dont you have like houses and apartments all over the third world? i wouldnt consider that a townie. :-/
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at March 19, 2009 4:06 PM
"townies"
I just realized.... I'm a townie! ROTHFLMAO!
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 4:09 PM
That interior was beautiful, THL.
I was, by definition, a townie in Albany.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 4:09 PM
townhouselady you live in chilltown J.C.!!!! the best city on the east coast! im being serious!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at March 19, 2009 4:11 PM
I love the diningroom, the woodwork and the plaster details...very very nice THL.
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 4:11 PM
I wonder how that poor little blind girl from Bay Ridge is doing at her meeting.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 4:11 PM
If we're going to pull "nativist" ranks here, then I think I win the contest, as I was born in 1957 in little ole Brooklyn, NY.
See some of you at the party. I should be there around 7. I wish my fellow curmudgeon Sam was going to be there, but alas, it looks like we've lost him.
Posted by: benson at March 19, 2009 4:12 PM
See you later benson, I'll leave my weapons at home!
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 4:15 PM
"My own mother died suddenly, on an ordinary day,"
My dad too MM. Walked out to work one day when I was 15 and didn't come home in the evening. That kind of shock is something I don't wish on anyone, especially kids as young as Natasha's are.
Posted by: wasder at March 19, 2009 4:20 PM
Biff...Floyd's looks like its about equidistant from both Jay St and Hoyt St A train stops even though Hoyt is one stop further coming from manhattan. Additionally, i always get disoriented coming out on Jay St and never know which direction to point myself in. On top of than none of the morons that work for the city know which direction anything is there either. So my question is it six of one, half a dozen of the other???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 4:21 PM
If it's so chilltown Rob why won't you come back and enjoy the rent stabilization they have here? You'd once said you never wanted to come back :(
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 4:21 PM
oh wasder, that is awful. I'm so sorry for both you and MM.
DIBS, I'm assuming you are coming on the A/C. I usually get off at High Street, but that works best for going to my home. I would have to think Jay St. is closer than Hoyt St.
cobblehiller, would you agree?
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 4:23 PM
I consider anyone a true son or daughter of a neighborhood when they contribute to that neighborhood in some way. It doesn't matter if you've lived there a year or all your life. If you join a local organization, or house of worship, or even sweep 2 houses beyond your own on weekends, you become a neighbor, not just a resident.
A neighbor cares about what is going on around them, a neighbor interacts with the other people around them, even if only greeting someone on the block. A neighbor gets involved somehow, somewhere. Of course, not everyone has the time or inclination to become a community activist, and I don't say you have to. But if you hole up in your house or apartment, don't shop or even walk around in the neighborhood, speak to anyone outside of your family, don't participate in anything, not even the signing of a petition, and don't even care to find out what's going on around you, you aren't a neighbor.
I've known and worked with people who became active in the community from the day they unpacked, and people who have lived here forever who do nothing, whatsoever, but complain or reminisce about the old days, "when there were still quality people in the neighborhood", and lots of people in between those two extremes.
To be a real Brooklynite does not depend on an accident of birth or upon one's parents' decision made long ago. A real Brooklynite wants Brooklyn to be the best it can be, and that takes the efforts of the new, the old, the rich, the poor, the majority, the minority, whatever that may be. No one has a God given right to the title. It must be earned.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at March 19, 2009 4:23 PM
Wow, THL, gorgeous house, really gracious proportions and wonderful detail. Price looks great, too.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at March 19, 2009 4:28 PM
Yes, I would say Jay St. is closer.
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 4:29 PM
benson...remind me to tell you later the story of the most loyal dog in the world. Since you're in Japan alot, you may already know this story. I'll print the details here tomorrow.
Tomorrow, dog stories only, no cats.
My first was a golden retriever, Brandy and my second was an Akita, Toshi.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 4:30 PM
DIBS, if you come up on Jay Street near Willoughby, then just walk towards Borough Hall. Then you're at Court Street, you go left, walk with the traffic to Atlantic, hang a right on Atlantic and walk past Clinton to the bar.
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 4:31 PM
Montrose;
Well said!! I fully agree. There is nothing I can add to what you have written.
I am sorry to hear about your mom, and ditto for Wasder. I am fortunate to still have both of my folks,even though my dad is now approaching 85. He's one of those salty old Brooklynites who pronounces "oil" as "erl" and Greenpoint as "Greenpernt".
Will you be there tonight? I hope so. See you then!
Posted by: benson at March 19, 2009 4:31 PM
cobblehiller...actually its a toss up which one is closer, Jay St being further west but Hoyt being further south.
www.onnyturf.com/subway/subway
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 4:32 PM
I never had a dog so does that meant I can't post on the open thread tomorrow :-(
Can I post sad gerbil tales of woe? :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at March 19, 2009 4:34 PM
The problem is I don't know which way Borough hall or anything is when I come out of the subway. Coming out at Hoyt, I know the whole neighborhood pretty well.
Don't worry, I'll get there.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 4:34 PM
DIBS, Hoyt is miles away, don't get out there. It lets you out way down by Bond Street.
I wouldn't wish that long walk on even an Anti-purplian such as yourself.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at March 19, 2009 4:35 PM
"Can I post sad gerbil tales of woe? :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at March 19, 2009 4:34 PM"
I think Richard Gere has some sad gerbil tales of woe!!!!
These too my friends are untrue urban myths!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 4:37 PM
MM, So right, and so eloquently spoken.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 4:37 PM
Well, in my mind it's further east!
"But if you hole up in your house or apartment, don't speak to anyone outside of your family, you aren't a neighbor."
Uh-oh...maybe I'm not a Brooklynite! Just kidding MM. : )
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 4:38 PM
MM...you may know this....what do the large letter "L" that are in the tilees at the Hoyt Schermerhorn subway station stand for?? Nobody seems to know, certainly not any of the MTA employess. "The What?? " "What L?"
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 4:38 PM
quote:
If it's so chilltown Rob why won't you come back and enjoy the rent stabilization they have here? You'd once said you never wanted to come back :(
i must have said that in some kind of a hissy. i just figured it would be strange i guess to move back to my birth town. the rent stabalization there is very tempting, tho im sure if i ever moved back it would cease to exist haha. i enjoy my current living situation tho and probably won't move out of where i live unless i hit a financial rock bottom.
question is floyd's in an area that's safe for a man in a hannah montana hat to walk around at night?
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at March 19, 2009 4:40 PM
"question is floyd's in an area that's safe for a man in a hannah montana hat to walk around at night?"
What is a hannah montana hat?
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 4:44 PM
Oh, like a baseball cap?
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 4:44 PM
MM, are you coming tonight?
bxgrl, I think you already said you aren't attending, right?
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 4:45 PM
dave- when you come out at Jay st. look for Boro Hall. Walk up to Boro Hall and Court St, then go left following the direction of one way traffic on Court to Atlantic. The right on Atlantic.
Posted by: bxgrl at March 19, 2009 4:45 PM
"question is floyd's in an area that's safe for a man in a hannah montana hat to walk around at night?"
AYOR
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 4:46 PM
"What is a hannah montana hat?"
I think I would rather wear an Asshat!
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 4:46 PM
Maybe the station had another name at one time. If the tiles are upstairs, but not on the platform, they may reference back to a retail store that used to have an entrance to the subway. They closed it off, but McCrory's (long gone) used to have an exit leading to the station, much like the one KMart now has at the Astor Place downtown #6 train, in Manhattan.
I can't recall where the "L" is, which is pitiful, I've been in and around and through there for the last 25 years.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at March 19, 2009 4:46 PM
I'm baaaaack!...with some crazy glue.
I'm not going to read all the posts, someone give me a brief re-cap.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at March 19, 2009 4:46 PM
DIBS, you're not taking the company chopper tonight?
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 4:47 PM
"someone give me a brief re-cap."
A lot of talking and nothing was resolved. Same old, same old.
How was the interview?
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 4:48 PM
I'll probably be there around 7.
Bxgrl gave me a mug for Christmas that says Elitist Pompous Black Asshat. I may bring it for identification.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at March 19, 2009 4:48 PM
I vaciliated, thinking yes but suddenly found out last night a project deadline is 2 weeks sooner than I thought and am now desperately working to finish. So no going anywhere unless someone foolishly offers to do @ 50 photoshop repairs on a series of portraits for me. In addition to all the layout and illustration I'm doing on it.
Posted by: bxgrl at March 19, 2009 4:49 PM
MM, wonderful! That will make me and many other attendees very happy.
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 4:49 PM
But I don't know what Boro Hall looks like. Don't worry...I'll ask which way to Court & Atlantic.
It'll be like a mini Brooklyn adventure with alcohol at the end.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 4:50 PM
bxgrl, that's disappointing. Maybe you can find a way to make it. If not, good luck finishing the project. I'm happy to hear you have work these days!
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 4:51 PM
MM...there are a number of them....all about 4-5' high with circles around them. They are on the level of the turnstiles. The "L" inside the circle reminds me of the Lionel train logo.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 4:52 PM
I know what you're talking about Dave. I've wondered the same thing!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 4:54 PM
How' the meeting go BRG?
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 4:55 PM
The circle reference brought it back. I remember them. I'm pretty sure they have something to do with some long forgotten store, which lay above. Benson might remember.
Anyone remember Lamston's? They were all replaced by Duane Reades, it seems.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at March 19, 2009 4:56 PM
"someone give me a brief re-cap."
benson called me out for being nice to What. I told him to shove it, but i used my nice words.
otherwise, poop, bigotry, cats, dogs, colors, DIBS sex life, you know...the usual...
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 4:56 PM
I'm going to invite everyone over after drinks to help figure out if I have a gas or electric dryer.
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 4:57 PM
The "L" stands for the old Loesser's Dept. Store.
Posted by: bxgrl at March 19, 2009 4:57 PM
"I'm going to invite everyone over after drinks to help figure out if I have a gas or electric dryer."
But Biff, Then you'll just have a lot of gassy drunk Stoners...and you still won't know if you have a gas or electric dryer...
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 4:58 PM
"I'm going to invite everyone over after drinks to help figure out if I have a gas or electric dryer."
He does have a lot of hair!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 4:58 PM
After all the drinks it's most likely to be a lot of gas.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 4:58 PM
Borough Hall is the large white building with a steeple and gold dome. Like Manhattan's City Hall, complete with large wide staircase. Dave, you gotta get out more often. With a guildbook.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at March 19, 2009 4:58 PM
Err, guidebook.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at March 19, 2009 4:59 PM
Si, I remember Lamston's - Joralemon/Court had one.
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 4:59 PM
"The "L" stands for the old Loesser's Dept. Store."
Which neighbourhood had the biggest Loessers?
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 5:00 PM
Wait...a dryer party? I'm so there!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at March 19, 2009 5:00 PM
Thank you, bxgrl. I'll look them up online tomorrow.
Mayb now it can stand for brownstoner "Losers"
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 5:01 PM
The "L" stands for the old Loesser's Dept. Store.
Thanks, Bxgrl! Now get back to work, so you can go tonight.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at March 19, 2009 5:01 PM
Then I'll look like a tourist.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 5:02 PM
Biff- I'm going to say, Bklyn Hgts ? ;)
Posted by: bxgrl at March 19, 2009 5:02 PM
"Wait...a dryer party? I'm so there!"
Nothing is dryer than a Brownstoner blogger party!
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 5:02 PM
Is there going to be any "hooking up" tonight???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 5:05 PM
Apparently it won't be too dry with all of the drinking that is sure to be happening!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at March 19, 2009 5:05 PM
Biff....believe it or not the first time I went to Union Hall from Manhattan for the first party I took a car service. But that was pre-Lehman.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 5:06 PM
I expect to see details of all the debauchery posted tomorrow!! Rule #1 - Snappy must be kept in the loop :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at March 19, 2009 5:06 PM
MM- abusive b***ch :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at March 19, 2009 5:07 PM
Snappy...PLEASE come. Even us gays like to watch some girl-on-girl action once in awhile.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 5:07 PM
bxgrl...what happened to Third World Tool???? :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 5:08 PM
Ha! No dice Dave :) Besides...if BRG can't see without her peepers she won't be able to appreciate my luscious..um...you know!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at March 19, 2009 5:10 PM
Snappy....take it from someone who's been to a lot of bar backroom "dark rooms", you don't need to be able to see to have a good time.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at March 19, 2009 5:12 PM
Thanks for the re-caps. I thought as much; that little would be discussed.
Thanks for asking re: meeting. It went blindingly well.
WHAT bxgrl isn't going tonight??!!
Snappy isn't going either :-(
Who the heck is gonna be there?
Crazy glue WORKS!!!
but now my glasses are more crooked on my face than before. I'm a little vain, I'm putting them away and will try to walk to Floyd by sense of smell.
Which way do I walk if I get out of the Union Street Station on the R train??
Posted by: bayridgegirl at March 19, 2009 5:12 PM
"Rule #1 - Snappy must be kept in the loop :)"
Show up and BE in the loop!!!
"Besides...if BRG can't see without her peepers she won't be able to appreciate my luscious..um...you know!"
I might not have my sight but I still have my sense of touch!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at March 19, 2009 5:14 PM
Well, Dave that is true. Darkness sometimes helps - beauty is only a light switch away!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at March 19, 2009 5:15 PM
Ah, yes, the sense of touch...its been so long!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at March 19, 2009 5:16 PM
Sorry, can't make it. K-Fed's Birthday Party is at M2 Ultralounge tonight can't miss that can I?
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 5:17 PM
"Which way do I walk if I get out of the Union Street Station on the R train??"
About 15 blocks west, then 10 blocks north! But there is an easier way to get there!
Floyd in on Atlantic Ave between Clinton and Henry.
Take the R to COurt Street, or the 4,5 to Borough Hall, or the F to Bergen.
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 5:17 PM
dibs, you are correct.
MM= abusive 3rd world mouthpiece b**ch. Of course we all underatand the b**ch can be either a lovely place of surf, sand and sun or a tree, right?
(excuse me- I think I hear someone pounding up the stairs now.....)
Posted by: bxgrl at March 19, 2009 5:17 PM
Oh, a K-Fed event? THL, no one will blame you for attending that instead :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at March 19, 2009 5:19 PM
Snappy, I am taking tomorrow off, so if I am not on providing input to the recap, that is why. It doesn't necessarily mean I got completely drunk and woke up naked in a cornfield suffering from hypothermia (although that has happened before).
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 5:19 PM
I'm gonna be there. Biff and I will have a long chat. :)
Hey, anyone interested in a beautiful stick-frame Victorian single family with all the details and a three-car garage for $699,999 list? It's in Ridgewood, Queens (close to the Brooklyn border.) I doubt it's anywhere near a subway, so the three-car garage will come in handy. Check it out, they got nine pictures.
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/Ridgewood_NY_11385_1104654412
The MLS is 2132314.
Posted by: mopar at March 19, 2009 5:19 PM
"Well, Dave that is true. Darkness sometimes helps - beauty is only a light switch away!"
A light switch and a six-pack.
I will have to logoff soon. It will take me some time to pick out the matching argyle socks and v-neck sweater that I will be wearing.
Posted by: Biff Champion at March 19, 2009 5:21 PM
BRG, you'd be closer getting out at the Court St. Station at Montague and Clinton.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at March 19, 2009 5:21 PM
"She's an Armenian with a ton of tush just like me."
Sounds good to me! Don't listen to Snappy!
Posted by: East New York at March 19, 2009 5:22 PM
Snappy, I know right? I heard about it and couldn't resist posting that.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 5:22 PM
Biff, nice way to cover yourself! And I do expect to hear the cornfield details at some point.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at March 19, 2009 5:23 PM
Mopar, very cool. Looks like the city version of the house I grew up in, although we didn't have that kind of detail in my house. Ironically, my pier mirror in this house is similar to that one, except I have fluted columns, which will be a beatch to strip someday.
Looks interesting. Are you thinking about it?
Posted by: Montrose Morris at March 19, 2009 5:26 PM
You all have a good and safe time tonight. Be sure to toast the Snapster in her absence! G'nite!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at March 19, 2009 5:26 PM
thanks all, I know how to get to Atlantic. I'm there every week at Sahadi
I was just making a bad joke about some PWA being directionally challanged + I picked the train station (union) in the bestest neighborhood in all of brooklyn :-)
Gotta run, have to go pick out something to wear that matches my plastic pumps.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at March 19, 2009 5:26 PM
Mopar, great house. it that were near a subway the price would be much higher.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 5:29 PM
THL, that's too funny that we both posted places in Jersey and Queens today -- I didn't see yours before I posted. But now I have and it's lovely.
But, you know, we're much more fun than K-Fed. He wouldn't get that house at all.
Posted by: mopar at March 19, 2009 5:30 PM
Have fun everyone, play nice.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at March 19, 2009 5:31 PM
Montrose, no, I need a subway! Hey, I'll get there at about 7 too. Looking forward to seeing you.
Posted by: mopar at March 19, 2009 5:34 PM
Still at work for a while - hopefully everyone isn't gone by the time I get there (like last time).
Posted by: lechacal at March 19, 2009 7:29 PM
that was great guys! it was awesome meeting new people and great seeing the people who were there the last time! be honest, who raided the free condoms by the bathrooms? lol
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at March 19, 2009 10:37 PM
Same here Rob! It was so great to SEE everyone!
The mystery of cobblehiller's coat was resolved - cmu mistakenly took my coat! BH rang my phone, and cmu answered! I have his coat - I hope! The exchange will take place tomorrow.
Stay tuned for further developments!
Posted by: cobblehiller at March 19, 2009 10:58 PM
Good to meet so many of you last night. Sorry I didn't get a chance to speak to more of you but it was already way past my bedtime by the time I left.
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(that's a brownstone to my left).
ps Cobblehiller, that website I was telling you about is www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/
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