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HI everybody;

Greetings from Japan! It is 11 PM Monday night. I am going to sleep now. Happy posting!

Posted by: benson at February 16, 2009 8:56 AM

HI everybody;

Greetings from my cube in a midtown office. It is 9:15 AM Monday morning. I am working right now while most of the country is enjoying a day off. Happy posting!

Posted by: Fjorder at February 16, 2009 9:08 AM

im working today too :( 4/5ths of my company has off tho (i opted to take mama lulu kiki's birthday off in stead, we had the option for either his birthday or presidents day. now i wish i took today off, oh well.

anyway, the meeting with my sister went well :) it wasnt akward at all and lots of fun :)

*r*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at February 16, 2009 9:20 AM

good to know im not the only one working, but it sure felt that way driving to work today, clear and free roads. oh to be a government worker, screw up budgets, slack off, and STILL get these days off.

Posted by: goldie at February 16, 2009 9:24 AM

It's a shame that Fjorder's hilarious post following the opening one wasn't built on. I gave it a lot of thought, but couldn't come up with one worthy enough. Now the moment is lost.

Posted by: Jebby at February 16, 2009 9:35 AM

Ohio Gozaimus, benson. Try to stay up as long as possible to combat that jet lag.

Greetings all. I'm home in the ghetto on my second cup of asshat organic coffee. Just sitting here wondering when the MAB will be over and when we will all no longer be "underwasder!!!"

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 9:35 AM

greetings all from...erm...sunny Brooklyn.
Working London hours so I've been at my desk since 2:30am.

Posted by: the chicken at February 16, 2009 9:51 AM

rob....glad things went well with your sister.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 9:54 AM

Hi Everybody;
Greetings from Shitzville America. The time is the same as in NY. I'm sure everyone down here is celebrating the presidents, well except for Abraham Lincoln. They still fly the confederate flag here. Hee Haw.

I wish I was going to sleep right now, so I don't have to deal with this southern lifestyle!

Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 16, 2009 9:58 AM

I wish I was going to sleep right now, so I don't have to deal with this southern lifestyle!

Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 16, 2009 9:58 AM

I wish I was going to sleep right now, so I don't have to deal with this southern lifestyle!

Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 16, 2009 10:00 AM

I wish I was going to sleep right now, so I don't have to deal with this southern lifestyle!

Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 16, 2009 10:01 AM

Not only that but apparently you lose some brain cells down there and can't master that posting thing very well.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 10:10 AM

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Get brownstoner on your mobile phone? Really??

Posted by: dirty_hipster at February 16, 2009 10:17 AM

Or maybe she's got it mastered, and just demonstrating the lack of recreation options.

Posted by: vinca at February 16, 2009 10:17 AM

Yeah, that's all I need is brownstoner on my mobile phone!!!!! Talk about "Get a life!!!" LOL

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 10:25 AM

I'm not saying that I agree with any of it, but this was the last part of an interesting article:

* http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200903/meltdown-geography/6

"So how do we move past the bubble, the crash, and an aging, obsolescent model of economic life? What’s the right spatial fix for the economy today, and how do we achieve it?

The solution begins with the removal of homeownership from its long-privileged place at the center of the U.S. economy...

If anything, our government policies should encourage renting, not buying. Homeownership occupies a central place in the American Dream primarily because decades of policy have put it there. A recent study... shows that...homeowners are no happier than renters...

And while homeownership has some social benefits... it is costly to the economy... those places with higher homeownership rates also suffer from higher unemployment. Homeownership...is a more important predictor of unemployment than rates of unionization or the generosity of welfare benefits... it ties people to declining or blighted locations...

As homeownership rates have risen, our society has become less nimble... This sort of creeping rigidity in the labor market is a bad sign for the economy, particularly in a time when businesses, industries, and regions are rising and falling quickly."

Posted by: SnarkSlope at February 16, 2009 10:39 AM

Question for all you Mac users:

Thinking of running and picking up my first macbook at lunch today - anything i should make sure I have on it? I'm only going to be using it for music, photos and maybe messing around with a few spreadsheets from work. advice?

Posted by: dirty_hipster at February 16, 2009 10:58 AM

Snark....

1. To say that the entire system is broke because of speculation in places like FL, NV and elsewhere is a presumption that they throw out and then don't defend.

2. To imply that renters over homeowners might spend more on "That means less spending on medical technology, or software, or alternative energy. " is also not proven in any way, shape or form.

3. Yes, homeownership might tie people to blighted areas but also ties them to areas that have withstood blight.

4. I for one, have always been happier owning than renting.

5. To think that the mortgage deductibility will go away is ludicrous. You might as well bet that the sun isn't going to rise tomorrow. For better or worse, but a reality, nonetheless.

6."Next, we need to encourage growth in the regions and cities that are best positioned to compete in the coming decades: the great mega-regions that already power the economy, and the smaller, talent-attracting innovation centers inside them—places like Silicon Valley, Boulder, Austin, and the North Carolina Research Triangle." This is what creates regional bubbles anyway....like Silicon Valley!!!!!!!!!

7. Finally, they forget to address the underlying long-term economic reality of home ownership over the long term.....ONCE YOUR MORTGAGE IS PAID, YOU LIVE RENT FREE IN YOUR SENIOR YEARS. Yes, many people don't make intelligent geographic decisions and do get stuck in high RE tax states (NJ) but the flight to FL and NV was a response by many of the elderly to escape high tax states and I'm sure that, despite whether or not they have lost money i their retirement home, they are very, very happy in those places. paying no state income taxes and having low property taxes.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 11:09 AM

congrats, dirty hipster. with a user name like that, I'd assume you were on a Mac; call it social profiling. Macs are FAR superior, computers with an excellent OS.

Macs do not come with the Microsoft Office suite, but from what I hear Google's free programs—that include Google Spreadsheet, are more than adequate.

I'd opt for the extended warranty and a laptop sleeve. Besides that, a Macbook is all set right out of the box.

Posted by: Fjorder at February 16, 2009 11:10 AM

Mac OSX comes with iTunes, iPhoto, GarageBand, etc. For spreadsheets from work you'll probably want to invest in a copy of Microsoft Office (Home/Student version should be plenty). If I were going to recommend anything, it would be AppleCare and maybe One-to-One training ($99/year for 1-hour class every week, if you want). Tekserve often runs free seminars, as does the Apple Store. Describe your needs to the salesperson, wherever you're buying, and ask their thoughts—both immediate and down the road.

Posted by: vinca at February 16, 2009 11:10 AM

The Microsoft suite of Excel, Word, etc. I can't remember if it came automatically when I bought mine.

And I never got a "play card" for the Mac equivalents of PC commands....like Ctrl-Alt-Del and even Refresh...someone had to tell me all of them.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 11:14 AM

Also at work today ... but I do get a free day to use sometime when we're not super-busy.

Posted by: cwbuecheler at February 16, 2009 11:19 AM

Thanks for the advice guys. I've been reluctant to join the darkside, but I can no longer justify spending more money for an inferior product!

Posted by: dirty_hipster at February 16, 2009 11:23 AM

If you're spending more money on a PC than a Mac, you're getting a bad deal on the PC. You should be able to match any available Mac's specs, laptop or desktop, for less money.

Which is not to say that the Macs aren't worth it, though personally I find OSX overrated. To many bells and whistles, animations and such, that you have to turn off in order to move through it efficiently.

Posted by: cwbuecheler at February 16, 2009 11:26 AM

Dave, you can find keyboard shortcuts at: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1343
Also, you can find if you go to System Preferences (under Apple in upper left), then to Keyboard & Mouse, then to Keyboard Shortcuts.

Posted by: vinca at February 16, 2009 11:27 AM

but macs are inherently overpriced to begin with for what you get. why are people such sheep

*r*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at February 16, 2009 11:31 AM

Hiya Assheads! Remember when I said "Keep Ferking around"? Well I had a conversation with a Manhattan Broker and this person said "people are calling her because they want to leave Brooklyn". I was very surprised because I thought all the retards want to live here. The reason is Manhattan is cheap again with apartments offing 1 month of free rent and it's cheaper than Brooklyn. People are looking to move in the spring and are getting a head start now. So I will wave Buh Bye to the Asshat Exodus..

Ohh BTW Suck this one down. The New York Times is having problems and remember the Retards was saying "Publishing is strong in NY", I don' think so...

End Times

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200901/new-york-times

It’s certainly plausible. Earnings reports released by the New York Times Company in October indicate that drastic measures will have to be taken over the next five months or the paper will default on some $400million in debt. With more than $1billion in debt already on the books, only $46million in cash reserves as of October, and no clear way to tap into the capital markets (the company’s debt was recently reduced to junk status), the paper’s future doesn’t look good.

It just gets better....

The What (Obama will save us, right?)

Someday this war is gonna end...

Posted by: Return of The What at February 16, 2009 11:32 AM

yay - rob is here to make baseless opinionated statements.

Posted by: dirty_hipster at February 16, 2009 11:36 AM

Sorry about my mutiple posts earlier, I was so happy about the possibility of conversing with civilzed people as opposed to the drudge I'm dealing with.

I see that's not the case. :-)

Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 16, 2009 11:36 AM

What....first of all HOW MANY people called her???? A few, maybe, Thousands, unlikely. Such crap.

Secpndly, the print media, newspapers and the NYTimes as well have seen declining profitability for years.

Nothing new here. Stop trying to shock the other loons.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 11:38 AM

"Greetings from Japan!"

Hi, Benson. What are you doing way over there? You can now enjoy Japan from the U, S and A.

'morning, What. Where's the Forte? I drove by there last night and couldn't find it.

***Bid half off peak comps***

Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at February 16, 2009 11:39 AM

Question for Dave: Since you enjoy ranting against welfare deadbeats, how do you feel about foreclosure relief? You're a paragon of civic and individual responsibility --I'm sure you're stoutly against it.

It's possible that as a senior you live "rent free," though if you bought a wildly inflated asset at maximum bubblehood, your opportunity cost vis-a-vis other possible vehicles for your saving may be so massive that renting would have made much more sense. (I defer to FinanceGuy, who can manage my money any day of the week.)

What --you're a hero, but that Hirschorn is overblown and already old news. The Times has taken more money from Slim Shady, they're in the process of unloading their stake in the Sox, they'll somehow monetize their building, blah blah. They won;t thrive but they'll survive. Unlike...

Posted by: Whuh at February 16, 2009 11:41 AM

BRG...so were we!!!!!

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 11:41 AM

I don't care if Manhattan is cheaper than Brooklyn now ... I'd still rather live in Brooklyn.

Posted by: cwbuecheler at February 16, 2009 11:41 AM

Greetings Greetings Greetings Greetings, BRG BRG BRG BRG.

***Bid Bid Bid Bid Half Half Half Half Off Off Off Off Peak Peak Peak Peak Comps Comps Comps Comps***

Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at February 16, 2009 11:43 AM

You can taunt the What all you want, Dave, but the panic is rising in your posts again. You know that as Manhattan gets cheaper, Bed Stuy reverts to "Where?" again for your average semi-affluent renter. Good luck with that.

Posted by: Whuh at February 16, 2009 11:44 AM

The WHAT shut up. So fkin what. I am in the process of renting my apartment and I talked to a young professional who said all his friends live or are moving to Brooklyn (Park Slope). NYC IS A BIG FUCKING PLACE people are always moving around. ANd by the way MR. Brownstoner, why do you not have classifieds? I would love to advertise my 1 Bedroom Garden apt. for rent in Park Slope, available March 1. Ha I just did it...

Posted by: billyboomer at February 16, 2009 11:47 AM

dirtyhipster, there is some validity to robs post in that if you spec out a pc with to match those of a mac, you end up paying quite a bit less...and this is coming from someone who owns both. macs are good machines, but you do indeed pay a premium. no need to attack rob.

Posted by: goldie at February 16, 2009 11:50 AM

"'morning, What. Where's the Forte? I drove by there last night and couldn't find it."

It was hiding behind Brooklyn Hospital. You know something BHO I was driving on the Manhattan bridge and happen to look at the J-Condo and only 20% of the lights was on. If they can't get that thing going then we are in big trouble.

"What....first of all HOW MANY people called her???? A few, maybe, Thousands, unlikely. Such crap."

She is getting phone calls from people in Brooklyn, Retard! That's a cause for concern!

I wonder how many Retards are dependent on the renters to help them with the mortgage? And remember it takes about 90 days to find a new tenant! That's very hard when you overpaid to live in that Ghetto Brownstone.....

The What (Obama may I have some skittles please..)

Someday this war is gonna end...

Posted by: Return of The What at February 16, 2009 11:51 AM

dirty_hipster - Everything you need but the MS Office apps should come loaded on your new MacBook.

And if you don't feel like dropping the money on MS OFfice, you can always download Open Office for free. It's a little quirky, but you can't beat the price.

- http://www.openoffice.org/

Posted by: SnarkSlope at February 16, 2009 11:52 AM

No problem with relief for those that need it and can pay a restructured mortgage.

If you think that Manhattan is going to get cheaper than Brooklyn then you're a bigger fool than I thought.

Just because What says some asshat real estate broker (he was one too you know) says she's getting some inquiries from brooklyn about Manhattan doesn't mean the economics have turned topsy turvy.

Stupid, just stupid.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 11:53 AM

"You can taunt the What all you want, Dave, but the panic is rising in your posts"

No, just my laughing at the loons and their inability to understand the long term

What writes....

She is getting phone calls from people in Brooklyn, Retard! That's a cause for concern!

SO HOW MANY WAS IT WHAT???? 4, 25, 100, 5,000????? FOOL

it would take me a week to rent this aprtment, But you would know better FOOL

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 11:59 AM

It is SO sad that the What thinks that only now are people moving from Brooklyn to Manhattan.

Please let him think that this is purely a product of the imploding MAB and not a product of the hundreds of year old tradition of moving between boroughs.

PLEASE!

BTW, I found both of my sets of friends apartments in Park Slope this weekend. That's an additional 6 more residents of Brooklyn starting March 1.

I'm sure more than the number of people who called this alleged broker in Manhattan.

Posted by: 11217 at February 16, 2009 12:00 PM

"The WHAT shut up. So fkin what. I am in the process of renting my apartment and I talked to a young professional who said all his friends live or are moving to Brooklyn (Park Slope)"

Hey Retard reach for the Prozac! I'm talking about the new, edgy, hip places to live, the Ghetto Asshead! Park Slope will do just fine relax and have a enema...

"If you think that Manhattan is going to get cheaper than Brooklyn then you're a bigger fool than I thought."

You can get a 2 bedroom in Soho for 3200.oo, in Park slope the same apartment is 3000.00. You can get a 1 Bedroom on the UES 1400, in Park Slope it's 1600.00.

I know I know you are going to try to refute this and I don't care. If you want to overpay to live in the Ghetto then be my Guest...

"Just because What says some asshat real estate broker (he was one too you know) says she's getting some inquiries from brooklyn about Manhattan doesn't mean the economics have turned topsy turvy."

Dave is a Asshead...

Geithner Pressed By G-7 to Move Faster on Bank Bailout

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aL7CTGCYZBOc&refer=home

The G-7 finance ministers and central bankers want Geithner, 47, to tackle a U.S. credit crisis that lies at the heart of the worst global recession since World War II. Bank stocks, as measured by the Standard & Poor’s 500 Financials Index, have fallen 30 percent this year and ended last week lower than before Geithner presented his rescue plan on Feb. 10.

It just gets better..

The What (Obama, Obama, Obama, Obama, Louder!!!!)

Someday this war is gonna end...

Posted by: Return of The What at February 16, 2009 12:02 PM

WHAT>>>ANSWER THE QUESTION OR GO BACK IN YOUR HOLE AND STFU

HOW MANY PEOPLE CALLED YOUR BROKER FRIEND?????? 1??? 2????

Thanks for the Geithner post....none of us have access to any news.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 12:09 PM

How do we adjust the relevance filter on the Whatbot?

Posted by: SnarkSlope at February 16, 2009 12:23 PM

Snark...where'd you go? Did you see my comment to the "politically positioned" Atlantic???

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 12:25 PM

Congratulations Rob what fun I'm so glad the meeting went well.

Re that Atlantic article, it is germane to the What's post today. Author Richard Florida is a bit of a one-trick pony; with the rise of Web 2.0 and the decline of traditional organizations such as the print media, some members of "the creative class" will be able to move to slightly less expensive creative centers such as Raleigh-Durham, Austin, Portland, upstate New York.

No, I don't think that will make New York a ghost town. I think it will relieve some of the pressure here. We're already seeing a slight decline in rents and purchase prices here. Good news for everyone except flippers.

Posted by: mopar at February 16, 2009 12:26 PM

Dave I know you are trying to discredit me and i does not matter because it sounds like you are panicking. I wanter to post 2 Craigslist searches- one for UES 1 Bedrooms under 1600 and Soho 2 Bedrooms under 3200. I got good hits but, Brownstoner is blocking me and I can't post the results.

Manhattan is cheaper than Brooklyn..

The What

Someday this war is gonna end...

Posted by: Return of The What at February 16, 2009 12:26 PM

Update:

I just got off the phone with a friend who lives in the East Village with 3 roommates and has been wanting to leave when their lease expires at the end of the month. I sent them a few listings last week in Carroll Gardens, Prospect Heights, Park Slope, and they looked at 4 places yesterday and have decided to take the one in the South Slope!!

So that's 10 PEOPLE I know who are moving to Brooklyn starting March 1.

I should run for borough prez.

Posted by: 11217 at February 16, 2009 12:28 PM

What -

SoHo 2-bedrooms under $3200 is not cheaper than Brooklyn. You can get a 2BR, and probably much larger than the SoHo one, in prime Park Slope, for $2600 or less.

Also, I lived on the UES for three years. Yes, you can get cheap apartments up there, if you're willing to walk four or more avenue blocks to the subway each morning and evening. If you get anywhere near the Lex line, the average 1 BR is going to cost you a lot more than $1600, even now.

Neither of your examples are cheaper than comparable Brooklyn areas. Try again.

Posted by: cwbuecheler at February 16, 2009 12:30 PM

I'm back, DIBS. Hey, I pretty much agree with your points. Like I said, I did not necessarily agree with the article, I just found it interesting.

Did anybody else see "House of Cards" on CNBC?

- http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29163182/

Posted by: SnarkSlope at February 16, 2009 12:31 PM

Oh and the What...their new place in Brooklyn is $3800 a month.

Their place in Manhattan was $4800.

Is Manhattan really cheaper?

Posted by: 11217 at February 16, 2009 12:32 PM

A HANDFUL OF RENTAL POSTS IS IRRELEVANT WHAT. GET OFF THIS. IT LESSENS YOUR ALREADY LOW CREDIBILITY AND MAKES YOU LOOK MRE FOOLISH THAN YOU REALLY ARE.

How many people called your broker friend??????????

"Manhattan is cheaper than Brooklyn" Of really???? Where is anyone going to find a townhouse cheaper in Manhattan. You're laughable now what.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 12:32 PM

"I just got off the phone with a friend who lives in the East Village with 3 roommates and has been wanting to leave when their lease expires at the end of the month. "

In a 1 Bedroom apartment.

" sent them a few listings last week in Carroll Gardens, Prospect Heights, Park Slope, and they looked at 4 places yesterday and have decided to take the one in the South Slope!!"

All 3 can move to Brooklyn to live in a 1 Bedroom apartment....

So that's 10 PEOPLE I know who live in a 2 bedroom Apartment in Brooklyn starting March 1.

The What

Someday this war is gonna end...

Posted by: Return of The What at February 16, 2009 12:33 PM

so all im getting out of this thread now is that manhattan is the pc and brooklyn is the mac.

a little grrr-worthy. oh well. that made no sense sorry. i have a cold today but couldnt stay home because there's not enough people here today.

*R*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at February 16, 2009 12:34 PM

> "If you get anywhere near the Lex line, the average 1 BR is going to cost you a lot more than $1600, even now."

Friday night I was out with co-workers. One of them just moved to a pre-war building on Lex in the low 60s.

He rented a 1br for $1650.

The rent had been reduced from the previous tenants, who were paying $1950.

Just anecdotal evidence, your mileage may vary.

Posted by: SnarkSlope at February 16, 2009 12:37 PM

""Manhattan is cheaper than Brooklyn" Of really???? Where is anyone going to find a townhouse cheaper in Manhattan. You're laughable now what."

Nice Dave but I was talking about APARTMENTS!!!!!

Cwbuecheler Do a Craigslist search and get back to me...

"Also, I lived on the UES for three years. Yes, you can get cheap apartments up there, if you're willing to walk four or more avenue blocks to the subway each morning and evening. If you get anywhere near the Lex line, the average 1 BR is going to cost you a lot more than $1600, even now."

There are renting 1 Bedrooms in Asshat Hill for 1700 a month (That's insane)! Then the funny thing is you move and complain about the neighborhood.

I will see you retards later and BTW I want you to make some of the worse financial decisions of your lives. Please please please!!!!!!! Come to Brooklyn Retards because it will be your Waterloo....

The What

Someday this war is gonna end...

Posted by: Return of The What at February 16, 2009 12:43 PM

Anybody grow up with Mother Goose Liverwurst? I'm having my sandwich now. it is without a doubt the best liverwurst ever and you cannot get it in Manhattan anymore. Oddly I found it at the Super Food Town on Atlantic.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 12:45 PM

THANK YOU SnarkSlope!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The What

Someday this war is gonna end...

Posted by: Return of The What at February 16, 2009 12:45 PM

You're welcome.

Now run along, your shtick has grown tiresome.

Posted by: SnarkSlope at February 16, 2009 12:50 PM

hey What...you never told us how many people from Brooklyn called your broker friend. You're looking pretty pathetic.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 12:50 PM

Would love to see what these cheap shit box apartments in Manhattan look like.

UES....where 125th street!!!! ROTFLMMFAO

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 12:52 PM

"So I will wave Buh Bye to the Asshat Exodus"

Hey...wouldn't you be waving "hello" to the Asshat Exodus?

"So that's 10 PEOPLE I know who are moving to Brooklyn starting March 1."

The What is right...you guys are starting to sound desperate.

You ALL need to lighten up. Agree to disagree or just decide that someone is "right." That is, unless you enjoy the battle (which I'd wager is at the bottom of this).

Posted by: East New York at February 16, 2009 12:53 PM

What -

No, the burden of proof is on the guy making the statements. YOU go search craigslist, and get back to me.

Why is it funny that I moved and then complain about the neighborhood? I moved because I didn't like the neighborhood, so obviously I would say it wasn't that great. It was crowded, the commute was obnoxious, and I far prefer Brooklyn's lower skyline.

I paid $1400 for a studio and $3100 for a big (for the UES) 2 BR a short walk from an express stop, when I lived there. I pay $2600 to live in a much larger 2 BR in Park Slope ... and I didn't even get a particularly good deal on my current place. So Brooklyn's certainly been cheaper for me.

Snark -

Evidence noted. Either he got a good deal, or it's a very small place. Either way, $1650 isn't bad for that area (the low 60s are nicer than the high 80s where I lived, too).

Posted by: cwbuecheler at February 16, 2009 12:54 PM

any landlords in here have the experience of being audited by the IRS? Reason I ask: my landlord called me on Friday asking for all this documentation (his company owns several properties around North Brooklyn) He asked me and my roommate to fill out a W9 form and to give additional income documentation. Sounds a little odd to me. Thoughts?

Posted by: dirty_hipster at February 16, 2009 12:54 PM

"Come to Brooklyn Retards because it will be your Waterloo...."

Heh heh! Sounds like a line from "The Warriors."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Warriors_(film)

Posted by: East New York at February 16, 2009 12:56 PM

Or, ENY, nothing better to do today!!!!!

Anyone want to go for a drink??? I had the flu last week and haven't had a drink since last Saturday!!!!

We can toast the mass exodus to Manhattan. i hear the Brooklyn bridge will be closed certain days so that the borough is not left completely void of renters.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 12:57 PM

cw....

"What -

No, the burden of proof is on the guy making the statements. YOU go search craigslist, and get back to me."

What doesn't understand rules of logic, debate or civil discourse. This, I think we are all in agreement.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 1:02 PM

$1600 for a 1-bedroom in Manhattan isn't bad. Many one-bedroom co-ops in brooklyn charge half of that in maintenance, of course the latter is partilly tax-deductible. But still...

I went to a few open houses this weekend in our lovely Boro.
It was pretty grim. I chatted up a couple of realtor friends and nothing is moving. Not houses, not condos, not co-ops. They all were putting the best face on it, but with so many people afraid that they may be losing their jobs in the near future, there do not seem to be too many optimistic buyers ready to plunge into the frigid waters of NYC real estate right now. No one is even bidding. Let's look forward to a spring thaw. Maybe, hopefully, it will come.

Posted by: sam at February 16, 2009 1:02 PM

My my, at waterloo the Asshats did surrender
Oh yeah, and I have met my destiny in quite a similar way
The history book on the shelf
Is always repeating itself

Waterloo - I was defeated, you won the war
Waterloo - promise to love you for ever more
Waterloo - couldn�t escape if I wanted to
Waterloo - knowing my fate is to be with you
Waterloo - finally facing my waterloo

My my, I tried to hold you back but you were stronger
Oh yeah, and now it seems my only chance is giving up the fight
And how could I ever refuse
I feel like I win when I lose

Waterloo - I was defeated, you won the war
Waterloo - promise to love you for ever more
Waterloo - couldn�t escape if I wanted to
Waterloo - knowing my fate is to be with you

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 1:03 PM

DIBS - Oh, sure. And if it wasn't president's day and there were other topics being posted, I wouldn't even be engaging in the dicussion. I'm just bored. :)

Frankly, I don't really care which borough costs more. I care which one I want to live in more, and there are at least five Brooklyn neighborhoods I'd prefer to anywhere in Manhattan.

Posted by: cwbuecheler at February 16, 2009 1:04 PM

"No, the burden of proof is on the guy making the statements. YOU go search craigslist, and get back to me.""

Brownstoner blocks some of my post and I could not post the results my searches on Craigslist Asshead!

"What doesn't understand rules of logic, debate or civil discourse. This, I think we are all in agreement.

Dave you are really a retard....

"I went to a few open houses this weekend in our lovely Boro.
It was pretty grim. I chatted up a couple of realtor friends and nothing is moving. Not houses, not condos, not co-ops. They all were putting the best face on it, but with so many people afraid that they may be losing their jobs in the near future, there do not seem to be too many optimistic buyers ready to plunge into the frigid waters of NYC real estate right now. No one is even bidding. Let's look forward to a spring thaw. Maybe, hopefully, it will come."

Taste the rainbow!!!!!!

The What

Someday this war is gonna end..

Posted by: Return of The What at February 16, 2009 1:11 PM

What -

It's not my problem that your style of posting has led to you having difficulties with Brownstoner. Sorry.

Posted by: cwbuecheler at February 16, 2009 1:15 PM

"What doesn't understand rules of logic, debate or civil discourse. This, I think we are all in agreement.

Dave you are really a retard...."

Well that makes a lot of sense. At least not retarded enough to be stuck living in Lodi, NJ. And where are your other residences if you're so smart??

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 1:21 PM

I hear ya CWB. I'm not particularly interested in living in the UES, though the short commute to the current gig would be nice. Other than that, meh.

Posted by: SnarkSlope at February 16, 2009 1:22 PM

"Or, ENY, nothing better to do today!!!!!"

There must - MUST - be something better to do! If not, all hope is most certainly lost. Then again, Dave such advice doesn't really apply to you, because you post here EVERY day, ALL day. Why change now?

Posted by: East New York at February 16, 2009 1:24 PM

What...you could post the craigslist links here. Just don't get them mixed up with your "Men seeking men" surfing.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 1:25 PM

Well, the sun is shining, so this a**hat is going for a stroll.

Posted by: SnarkSlope at February 16, 2009 1:31 PM

"What...you could post the craigslist links here. Just don't get them mixed up with your "Men seeking men" surfing."

I like woman, you like woman with strap ons.

Tell Brownstoner to release my original post or do a search yourself. Maybe you are afraid Dave.

The What

Someday this war is gonna end..

Posted by: Return of The What at February 16, 2009 1:44 PM

"11217-so thats 10 PEOPLE i know who are moving to Brooklyn starting march 1" yeah thats 10 more weaklings who r gonna get victimized as far as im concerned.u just dont get it, do u? Bk will never become the yuppie haven u all hope it will.why do u think there r more violent robberies in gentifying hoods like Williamsburg and Clinton Hill than there r in B'ville and East New York? stick up kids arent dumb.they know which ones to go after.and things r only gonna get worse.

Posted by: buckfast at February 16, 2009 1:44 PM

WOW...we now have another assinine racist on here. buckfast, we don't need your neanderthal shit here.

Bitter?????

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 1:53 PM

Yeah, boy, Park Slope and the Prospect Heights landmark district sure haven't become any kind of a "yuppie haven" ... Those places be straight ghetto.

Posted by: cwbuecheler at February 16, 2009 1:54 PM

Just tell us what the addresses were What. You trying to ramp up your east Side harlem thang?????

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 1:55 PM

Why is the eater community so mean to eachother? Yikes!

Posted by: idontlikerodents at February 16, 2009 2:04 PM

oh my god guys ive never been so bored in my entire life! work is dead dead dead and so are all the blogs :( i cant believe i actually just opened up a thread to read about a pasty shop. :-/

*r*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at February 16, 2009 2:09 PM

which one of us is really bitter here dave? im staying in BK no matter what.the good and the bad.and did u call me a racist? i have more black friends than u can count.take ur old ass to bed,i think its time for a nap

Posted by: buckfast at February 16, 2009 2:09 PM

buckfast, take your hate and violence mongering posts over to curbed. Maybe you can hook up with some other members of the cave clan that think like you. Don't spew that shit and then come on here all righteous saying you have black friends. You're a sorry poseur.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 2:16 PM

Today really sucks - I think everyone in my office decided to play a mean joke on me and take a personal day today.

Posted by: dirty_hipster at February 16, 2009 2:18 PM

DH: This is a stretch re: your earlier question, but depending on your rental the
W9 might come into play re: interest paid on landlord's bank account for security deposits and due to you, or separately, if you happen to be living in Section 8 housing (as many Roosevelt Islanders suddenly find themselves). Ask your landlord for a copy of his audit notice and a letter from his accountant stating the reasons why you’re involved in your landlord’s audit.

What—your posts are tired retreads of Stephen Potter’s “Gamesmanship” made all the more bizarre by your claim that your posts are being selectively blocked and edited. It’s nothing short of delusional to believe you’re being watched that closely. No healthy human being is mesmerized by your world of hurt and your treble and terrible addictions to conflict, malice and vitriol.

Posted by: vinca at February 16, 2009 2:22 PM

Im a poser? i grew up in Coney Island BK.surrounded by public housing. where did u grow up? anytown usa? aka whiteville?

Posted by: buckfast at February 16, 2009 2:24 PM

Thanks vinca! that does make sense. Having worked in auditing before, I'm surprised the auditors would bother with the negligible amount of interest my deposit has accumulated, but I guess if you have enough 1,000 dollar deposits in an account it starts to add up!

Posted by: dirty_hipster at February 16, 2009 2:31 PM

So, having grown up in public housing in Coney Island, tell us ... are you really hoping to have Brooklyn go back to being full of rampant crime, drug abuse, and violence? That's really what you want? For yourself and your family, your kids if you have or hope to have them, to have to grow up in that kind of environment? That appeals to you?

I don't quite understand why anyone would wish for those "good old days" to come back.

Posted by: cwbuecheler at February 16, 2009 2:31 PM

"where did u grow up? anytown usa? aka whiteville?"

Dave grew up in Assville Ca.

"What—your posts are tired retreads of Stephen Potter’s “Gamesmanship” "

Then why are you responding to me? If people hate me so much then what to they respond to my posts???!!

"It’s nothing short of delusional to believe you’re being watched that closely. "

I use curse words! The reason why I haven't gone off because Word press monitors my IP Address. When I make a post it flags for certain words and will not make the post if it comes across dirty words also if I post multiple URL's it will flag the post too. Now I can break it but, I don't want to. You see 2009 is very bad and I don't have to rant much further. People are losing their jobs, the economy is in the toilet right now, Real Estate is dead and the reality is hitting home. So Vinca you got a response from be and it will be the last. Now suck me off....

The What

Someday this war is gonna end...

Posted by: Return of The What at February 16, 2009 2:38 PM

cw....maybe buckfast can't relate to the "real world." He actually sounds kind of schizophrenic. He could be a masochist longing for the days when he would get beat up so often. Other than these two explanations, I don't know what to make of him. He clearly doesn't think like normal people from the first post.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 2:41 PM

because cw.back in those days we had alot more personal freedom in the city of New York.as far as "rampant crime,drug abuse,and violence" it never effected my quality of life.i would mind my business,and when trouble found me,i would fight and fight hard. and im teaching my kids to do the same.believe me my kids arent gonna be the ones getting their asses kicked in school every day.im sorry to say im not sure thats gonna be the case for the kids of alot of the transplants.

Posted by: buckfast at February 16, 2009 2:52 PM

Dave, the what has a point, why respond to his posts?
I'm a little surprised at you.
By the way, the reason your flu lasted so long, was that you didn't have a drink all week. What were you thinking? Those viruses hate Martinis, it gives then shpilkus.

Posted by: sam at February 16, 2009 2:52 PM

Buckfast at 2:09...."and did u call me a racist? "

buckfast at 2:42...."where did u grow up? anytown usa? aka whiteville?"

I guess we know who the racist is. It's so easy to uncover them. They give themselves up with there stupidity.

What....you never answered my question......how many calls did the broker get from people living in broookyn who want to move to manhattan??? In your words, "Now suck me off...."

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 2:54 PM

Can't imagine why landlords would want income information from a renter UNLESS the apartment is rent stabilized. When the total income goes over a certain amount, the apt becomes destabilized. (Under the old rent decontrol rule, that is, which was recently suspended.)

Posted by: mopar at February 16, 2009 2:56 PM

"their stupidity"...glad Biff isn't here

Nothing better to do today sam than engage the loons. They seem to be particularly stupid today. It's like rattling their cage or sticking a stick in there. Just low level fun!!!

I'll have to look up shpilkus!!!

I see my relative senator is getting bad press on the guns under the bed. LOL

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 2:57 PM

actually dave,i do think like normal people.to me,normal people are the native brooklynites like me.something u obviously would know nothing about.

Posted by: buckfast at February 16, 2009 2:58 PM

shpilkus is like tsorus buy spikier, nu?

Posted by: sam at February 16, 2009 2:59 PM

sam.....literally "Hairpins in the tuchas." That's great....only Cantonese is more colorful!!!!!

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 3:02 PM

"it never effected my quality of life." and "when trouble found me,i would fight and fight hard." are diametrically opposing statements.

If trouble is finding you, and you're having to fight, your quality of life is inherently not as high as it is for those for whom that is not the case.

Far as personal freedom goes ... yes, fair enough. NYC's a bit of a police state these days. Then again, you can walk down the street at night without having to look over your shoulder most of the time.

Posted by: cwbuecheler at February 16, 2009 3:02 PM

What, the sad thing is that if people responded to your posts with warmth, you wouldn’t even notice they were there, or that they’d responded. The only time you recognize you’re being paid attention to is when you’re getting negative attention. The world is filled with people who *could* do something differently but, like you, just don’t want to. What you write, what you say, what you do—that’s your choice, and no one else’s. You want to live in this generation in the same way, and inflicting the same pain, as the generation that brought you into this world, I’d say that’s an unfortunate choice. As to "suck me off"—here’s the kindest thing we say in the very Brooklyn neighborhood where I grew up: “You couldn’t come if I called you.” You see, What, I’m just as capable of you of spewing venom, but I choose not to, even when that choice takes a lot of effort. I rarely resort to song lyrics, but this one’s for you and buckfast (and hannible, too):

The Pointer Sisters, Yes We Can Can

Now's the time for all good men
to get together with one another.
We got to iron out our problems
and iron out our quarrels
and try to live as brothers.
And try to find a piece of land
without stepping on one another.
And do respect the women of the world.
Remember you all have mothers.
We got to make this land a better land
than the world in which we live.
And we got to help each man be a better man
with the kindness that we give.
I know we can make it.
I know darn well we can work it out.
Oh yes we can, I know we can can
Yes we can can, why can't we?
If we wanna get together we can work it out.

And we gotta take care of all the children,
the little children of the world.
'cause they're our strongest hope for the future,
the little bitty boys and girls.

We got to make this land a better land
than the world in which we live.
And we got to help each man be a better man
with the kindness that we give.
I know we can make it.
I know darn well we can work it out.
Oh yes we can, I know we can can
yes we can can, why can't we?
If we wanna, yes we can can.

Posted by: vinca at February 16, 2009 3:04 PM

Posted by: buckfast at February 16, 2009 1:44 PM

actually dave,i do think like normal people.to me,normal people are the native brooklynites like me.something u obviously would know nothing about.

Posted by: buckfast at February 16, 2009 2:58 PM

WOW...you are really messed up, buckfast. None of the native Brooklynites I know would ever write that crap. And, I think they'd disown you as well. You're a pathetic excuse for a Brooklynite. Log out.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 3:06 PM

Can't wait for the What's reply to that, vinca. Well said. he can't deal with anything that's got a positive outcome.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 3:08 PM

You senatorial relative is kinda cute in that blonde upstate way. I loved her listening tour of Brooklyn and the Bronx. Also some of her old constituents are upset at her, like saying -You mean you weren't a sincere racist and xenophobe????
I wish her luck if Rudy (curmudgeon central) runs agaisnt her next year or the year after, whenever.

Posted by: sam at February 16, 2009 3:11 PM

sam...you think she's governor material???? I think her past would ruin that. Rudy won't win the governorship...too many upstate people hate him. D"Amato more likely, for better or worse.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 3:13 PM

Cuomo would win but he may have set his sights higher. Not sure on what though.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 3:16 PM

well thats the difference between us cw.getting in a scuffle now and then did nothing to effect my quality of life or my every day mood.and as far as being able to "walk down the street at night without having to look over ur shoulder most of the time" might be somewhat true.(even thought u still have to be aware no matter where u r walking)but what did we have to sacrifice to get there.

Posted by: buckfast at February 16, 2009 3:17 PM

What exactly did you scarifice, buckfast??? This ought to be good.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 3:19 PM

dave, i meant the senate race, but i think you're right, rudy probably is more interested in running agaisnt como for the governorship. i assume that como will beat paterson in a primary race.
paterson is hapless and has pissed off too many important people.
the guy who impersonates him on SNL is absolutely brilliant, he's an ordinary looking white guy who impersonates both paterson and oabama perfectly. have you seen him?

Posted by: sam at February 16, 2009 3:26 PM

yes seen him. almost a s good as tina fey!!! paterson may just be a bad politician. i think that's becoming apparent.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 3:32 PM

i think i already touched on it dave.peorsonal freedoms.like walking down the street without the pigs going in ur pockets.how many times have u bin stoped and frisked? and just every day things like being able to enjoy a couple of beers with ur friends in front of ur building.

Posted by: buckfast at February 16, 2009 3:34 PM

Sure, you have to be aware of your surroundings in any urban or semi-urban area, anywhere in the world. New York's hardly the only place that can be dangerous. That doesn't mean that it's desirable to live like that.

Whether you minded it or not, being in fights from time to time is a definite negative of any kind of "quality of life" scale. It's demonstrably the truth that reducing quality-of-life crimes -- petty theft, panhandling, petty violence ... even things like jaywalking -- has an overall positive impact in urban neighborhoods on everything from property values, to school graduation rates.

What have we given up to get New York where it is? I don't know - I wasn't here in the 70s. The personal freedoms I enjoyed when I was here in the early 90s aren't any different than the personal freedoms I enjoy now: I can go to restaurants, bars, movie theaters, drama theaters, musicals, parks, museums, historic and architectural tours, and all of the other great things that the city offers.

Same stuff as I could do then, except now I don't have people getting up in my face and asking me if I want to buy drugs every ten friggin feet like I did back then. I don't miss that. Was that worth me giving up the "personal freedom" to spraypaint on subway trains, smoke crack, and kick the shit out of someone whose face I didn't like?

Yeh, probably.

Posted by: cwbuecheler at February 16, 2009 3:38 PM

Good morning everyone! It's 5.30 AM here in Mito City,Japan. I had about 5 hours of sleep last night, which is not too bad for the second day in Japan. I am getting too old to be a road warrior - my body can't take it any more. Considering the economy, however, I guess I'll have to keep on doing it.

Buckfast: I'd like to ask you a question. In a previous thread, you stated that you grew up on Ave Z, near the Coney Island Yards. I know this area well, as I grew up not too far away. Ave Z is not in Coney Island, it's in Gravesend, and it is not surrounded by the housing projects. The housing projects are well on the other side of the belt parkway and further to the west. What the heck are you talking about?

Posted by: benson at February 16, 2009 3:39 PM

Well, it seems lots of people get tickets for drinking on the stoop. Sorry that your sense of entitlement makes you believe you should be immune from that.

As far as you getting frisked by the police, when was the last time that happened and where were you, what were you doing? Let us know when it happens again.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 3:42 PM

gravesend is pretty pricey now. A lot of tear-downs and big McMansions being built on smallish lots. Definitely not poverty-stricken.

Posted by: sam at February 16, 2009 3:45 PM

benson...whenever I arrive in Japan I shower go out to dinner and stay up as late as possible, drinking. I usually wind up sleeping through the nite. It's when I come back this way that I oftentimes have more problems.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 3:47 PM

benson, what kind of new gadgets are you finding in your hotel room? Do the lights dim when you touch the walls? does white noise turn on when you use the toilet?

Posted by: sam at February 16, 2009 3:52 PM

DIBS;

Same exact situation for me. I go out with the Japanese colleagues for dinner and then the requisite karaoke bar. Get in to bed at 11 PM and will get 4-5 hours of sleep, which is enough to get me through the day. Coming back, however, I find that it sometimes takes me at least a week to get my system back in order.

I've noticed something interesting here. Prior to the election, the Japanese were generally pro-Obama. They seem to have soured on him quickly- they don't like the stimulus bill.

Posted by: benson at February 16, 2009 3:53 PM

yes absolutely right benson.i moved to ave Z when i was 15.before that i lived at 31st street.dowm the street from Gravesend Houses.but im not sure if ave Z and shell road if considered Gravesend

Posted by: buckfast at February 16, 2009 3:56 PM

Sam;

Have you ever seen a toilet in Japan? It's unbelievable - more controls than a 747 jet. They can do it all for you: wash your tush, air dry it - the works!

I think that one area where Japan is well ahead of the US is in mobile wireless entertainment. When you take the train in Japan, everybody is watching a video on their mobile wireless phone or device. Given how crowded their trains are, it's the only thing they can really do.

Posted by: benson at February 16, 2009 3:57 PM

benson....i think there's a misperception globally as to the t\"teeth" of the "buy American" crap portion of the bill. Additionally, Japan itself is doing very little. China is doing the most.

There is a sense around the world that the problems with the financial assets started in London & the US...which of course is correct.

Also, the Japanese investor, many of whom invest overseas, have been hurt by the US market but they have benefitted from the weakness of the US dollar. Once the Yen starts weakening they will really get their lunch handed to them.

What's on TV??? Some inane cooking show where everyone agrees how good everything is? Hard Gay??? or the Japanese equivalent of WWE/WWF?

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 3:59 PM

benson....they've also soured on their own PM...his approval rating is down to 9.7%....second lowest in history. We may actually see the death of the LDP this election.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 4:04 PM

well dave i was at a friends apartment hanging out.when we decided to get something to eat.upon walking out of the building which happends to be in the Marlboro Houses complex.we got thrown against the wall with guns pointed at us,and tapped down.the cops said what they always say."u match the desciption"

Posted by: buckfast at February 16, 2009 4:06 PM

benson, the last time I was in Japan, cell phones were the size of men's dress shoes. But even then the bathroom fixtures were unusually complicated and the shower in one of the hotels I stayed looked like the transformation chamber in "The Fly".
Are cigarettes still cheap?
They used to be so cheap and every single person smoked. I have never seen so many smokers, more than in France, or Spain or even Italy!

Posted by: sam at February 16, 2009 4:08 PM

Sorry...typed faster than I was thinking....the US dollar's weakness has hurt the Japanese investors on top of the weakness in the price of the underlying assets (stocks). So they've gotten a double whammy.

The Yen should start to weaken soon if just a technical reversal. That'll make their foreign assets go up in value.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 4:08 PM

Well, if there was a major problem in the Marlboro Houses that evening I'm glad they were looking for the perps.

I don't know what the Marlboro Houses are like other than being part of the NYCHA.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 4:14 PM

"When you take the train in Japan, everybody is watching a video on their mobile wireless phone or device."

Is that a good thing?

Enjoy Japan, Benson. I've only been in the airport (Narita).

Posted by: East New York at February 16, 2009 4:19 PM

I've been accosted by the police more times in Irvine, CA than I have in New York.

Granted, those numbers are Irvine: 1 and NYC: 0. :P

Posted by: cwbuecheler at February 16, 2009 4:19 PM

Buckfast;

Your story still doesn't ring true to me. In the previous thread you said that you grew up on Ave Z. People don't refer to the place that they moved into when they were 15 as the place they grew up in. Also, I am curious that you just refer to the location as Ave. Z. Ave. Z in Gravesend consists of a single large housing complex managed by a famous NY real estate family. Buckfast: what is the name of that housing complex on Ave. Z, and who manages it?

Posted by: benson at February 16, 2009 4:20 PM

ENY...there's no crime on Tokyo subways....only the occassional grope!!!!

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 4:23 PM

ENY...connecting to Bangkok??? ;)

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 4:26 PM

Sam;

Yup, everybody still smokes, and the smokes are cheap. One thing they have cracked down on is the cigarette vending machines. Previously anyone, including children, could buy cigarettes from them. Now it requires a type of "EZ Smoke" card that is only issued to adults.

DIBS;

I work for a large Japanese manufacturing company. What's got them in a snit is the appreciation of the Yen, which has made it hard for us to compete in the US market. Prior to coming to Japan, I had to stop in at a customer in California, and announce that we were raising our prices. Let me tell you: informing a customer that you are raising prices in the middle of a deep recession is not a way to make friends!! Needless to say, they didn;t join me for lunch.

ENY;

Of course it's not a good thing. The Japanese are really into mindless entertainment, perhaps more than Americans. The really incredible thing to me is the popularity of "cartoon porn", which men read openly on the train right next to young girls.

Gotta go for more meetings !

Posted by: benson at February 16, 2009 4:28 PM

"I don't know what the Marlboro Houses are like other than being part of the NYCHA."

And this is why you are a Retarded Filthy Asshat! The Marlboro Houses are in Coney Island and that's place where Black and White people get along, I think it's the weed on Stillwell..

Note to Long time New Yorkers! The retards will be gone soon. Once the economy blows up they will leave. You won't have to hear crap from a idiot like Dave.

"The Yen should start to weaken soon if just a technical reversal. That'll make their foreign assets go up in value."

Seriously!!!! Would you have this Hedge Fund Retard invest your money????!! This why everything has gone Tango Uniform!! These "experts" don't know Ka-Ka about investing, they just throw people money around!! This Asshead can't manage a Lemonade stand!

Asian Stocks Drop as Japan’s Economy Shrinks; Brambles Tumbles

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601091&sid=aa4yGP0zyNPI&refer=india

Feb. 16 (Bloomberg) -- Asian stocks fell, led by finance and consumer companies, as Japan’s economy shrank the most since 1974 and Group of Seven finance chiefs said the economic slowdown will persist through most of 2009.

It just get better.. LMMFAO!

The What

Someday this war is gonna end..

Posted by: Return of The What at February 16, 2009 4:29 PM

stop being so nieve dave,there were no perps."U MATCH THE DESCRIPTION" is some bs the cops always say after searching u. and as for benson,indeed u r correct about there not being any PJs at aveZ.im glad someones else on here knows something about brooklyn south besides me.but im still not sure about it technically being Gravesend.growing up there we always thought of it as CI.since its right between the train yard and coney isalnd hospital.

Posted by: buckfast at February 16, 2009 4:30 PM

Yes, benson, the strength of the Yen is really hurting the Japanese companies. We are betting that it turns soon.

Ojisan (old men) reading cartoon porn is really funny. You'd be surprised how much of it is really out there!!!!!

At least there are great "host" and "hostess" bars throughout Shinjuku. Tokyo never had a Guiliani!!!!

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 4:32 PM

Nope...I was traveling to China for a Yangtze River cruise...back in my days as a travel journalist. I remember talking with a PLASTERED Japanese businessman in the airport "smoking room." Just then a friend of mine from California up and walked into the room! We were both like, "What are you doing here?!?"

Posted by: East New York at February 16, 2009 4:35 PM

Who's being naive? If you're coming out of a PJ that has a certain amount of crime going on within it then what do you expect???? I'm assuming that you are white because you stated above that you have a lot of black friends, correct?

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 4:36 PM

no benson.its not all one comlex.my building on W3rd st and ave Z didnt have a name as far as i can remember.and we sure as hell didnt know who owned it.maybe ur refering to the buildings on W2nd.they were alot nicer.

Posted by: buckfast at February 16, 2009 4:43 PM

I have to say I have zero interest in alleged police brutality in Gravesend.
So I'm changing the subject:
Evidently two nuclear armed submarines, one French the other British, "accidentally" collided in the middle of the infinite expanse of the Atlantic Ocean. Can anyone tell me what these two nuclear subs were doing so near each other in the middle of the ocean? Will we ever know? I think it is the weirdest news item of the week.

Posted by: sam at February 16, 2009 4:47 PM

yes dave u r correct.im a the son of Ukrainian immigrants.but i dont care how much crime goes on there.we did nothing wrong,so why should we be forced up against the wall at gun point.

Posted by: buckfast at February 16, 2009 4:48 PM

sam - hunting for Red October?

Posted by: cwbuecheler at February 16, 2009 4:50 PM

And were the two cops both black???

sam...the French are still upset they've never won a any battle, let alone a naval battle against the British.

I hadn't seen that story. Very bizarre.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 4:54 PM

hunting for something, they were both smashed up pretty good. Somehow they didn't sink with theit nuclear warheads or, oopsie!, let one rip in the direction of Wall Street, but there must have been something there. It took the French sub three days to limp back to harbor, it must have been way way out there.

Posted by: sam at February 16, 2009 4:57 PM

no they were white

Posted by: buckfast at February 16, 2009 4:57 PM

Third world countries shouldn't have nuclear weapons!!! :)

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 5:03 PM

DIBS - I'm sure MrsCWB would take offense to that! :)

Also, I don't think cops profiling people and being abusive jerks - in this city or in any other - is a particularly huge newsflash

Posted by: cwbuecheler at February 16, 2009 5:06 PM

Especially if those people are coming out of a PJ where there was probably a crime. If there was no "roughing up" or other brutality then let it go.

My apologies to MrsCWB. C'est la vie. Good thing Pierre de taille isn't here today. However, you assumed I was referring to france and not our closer allies GB. Classic inferiority complex :) :) :)

Sorry about the roguefort thing. We're all losers there.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 16, 2009 5:16 PM

Buckfast;

It is a single complex. The name of it is Shorehaven (as the signs there say all over the place), and it is managed by the Trump family (not Donald Trump, but his father's organization, Fred Trump).

Posted by: benson at February 16, 2009 5:17 PM

never heard that before benson.and never saw the big signs which u speak of.and i lived there for 6 years

Posted by: buckfast at February 16, 2009 5:25 PM

Buckfast;

Correction: they are called Beach Haven apartments. Shorehaven is further along the belt parkway:

http://hotpads.com/search/listing/5539250_VLSHomes#lat=40.586&lon=-73.9694&zoom=20&previewId=5539250_VLSHomes&previewType=listing&detailsOpen=true&listingTypes=rental,sublet,room,corporate&includeVaguePricing=false&loan=30,0.059,0

How can you not have heard of this name? Google "Beach Haven Apartments", and see what you find. I don't believe that you lived there, and I don't believe that you lived in the CI projects.

Posted by: benson at February 16, 2009 5:32 PM

Fred Trump! Ha!
People I know in Bay Ridge knew him, evidently he was nothing like the Donald.
Well, I am off to make dinner now.
Benson, I bought (without bank financing) a pair of Kobe Steaks (admiteddly from Texas, I think) and a bottle of a very promising sirah from Napa.
Toasting the Presidents and the wonderful day off they have made possible. g'night all.

Samuel

Posted by: sam at February 16, 2009 5:34 PM

benson = matlock?

Posted by: SnarkSlope at February 16, 2009 5:44 PM

Book 'em.

Posted by: benson at February 16, 2009 5:54 PM

i didnt say i lived in them,i said down the street.less than a block away.

Posted by: buckfast at February 16, 2009 6:29 PM

i thought u said u knew about the area benson.its absolutely not the same complex."beach haven" or what ever ur calling it,im pretty sure are the buildings closer to Ocean pkwy.i've bin to those buildings and they were much nicer inside than my building.if u were ever there,u would know that.

Posted by: buckfast at February 16, 2009 6:57 PM

"This Asshead can't manage a Lemonade stand!"

ROTFLMMFAO

***Bid half off peak comps***

Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at February 16, 2009 10:06 PM

You all attack What because he cannot prove that Brooklyn RE is crashing. Indeed, sellers insist on high pricing perhaps 20-25% off the peak of the bubble pricing. In this sense Brooklyn has hardly crashed.

HOWEVER, when one decides to buy needs to make an educated guess for what the prices will be in the future. Unless one is a fool, one cannot ignore what's happening to the US and in particular to NYC economy. One cannot ignore that there was a RE bubble. Brooklyn RE has not crashed but it will soon.

You can bring up any craigslist or RE ad. It does not mater what happens now but what will happen in the next couple of years. If you would like to argue bring YOUR relevant data. And the burden of proof is YOURS. Not What. Most economists say we are in the worst recession since the 30s depression. YOU need to argue against them.

Posted by: MaplewoodGuy at February 17, 2009 1:10 AM

MPG - we attack the What becuase he's rude, hypocritical, racist, sexist, xenophobic and homophobic.

Posted by: dittoburg at February 17, 2009 9:13 AM

BHO - I see you are actually the what posting with a different name. No-one besides 16 yr old girls and the what uses ROTLl etc. You're excused from team bear.

Posted by: dittoburg at February 17, 2009 9:15 AM

LOL, ditto.

Posted by: SnarkSlope at February 17, 2009 11:43 AM

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