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February 12, 2009
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i posted this in another thread, but that thread is now dead so ill post it here!!!
i think i figured out what "new brooklyn" really is!!! from reading some random book i found on a stoop of all places... it's based on a French sociologist named Pierre Bourdieu and his concept of "culture capital". - how cultural experiences acted as a boundary between the elites and the lower classes. The high prices of brooklyn real estate now are a prime example of culture capital. "The purpose of..." a house in brooklyn is not so much as it is housing and basic needs as it is a way of signifying one's membership in a certain class, an elite liberal with the indoctrination of high expectations, not hard actualities, "a smug belief in one's own entitlement."
i totally hate that but it rings true, no?
discuss
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at February 12, 2009 9:23 AM
For some maybe. Not for all, not for me (especially not the "elite liberal" part ;) )
My family has owned in Brooklyn since my great grandparents came over around 1913. My grandmother's uncles brought them over and already owned property, a rooming house, in Brooklyn.
For me and my family it has nothing to do with class distinction, for us it's a way of life, the only life we've known for generations. For us it is exactly housing but it is also the family business, maintaining a tradition that began when my great grandparents working to provide a better life here in America.
I think a lot of people in Brooklyn are from a similar background, long time residents who own for no other reason than housing and tradition. It is the vocal elite liberal minority that you hear from, that has to read and talk about such concepts to feel better about their own liberal guilt.
.02
Posted by: christopher at February 12, 2009 9:32 AM
Hi folks;
I've been travelling alot, so have not been able to post much. I'm in San Jose, CA right now, and the next stop is Japan. I managed to take a look at Brownstoner late yesterday, and have a few comments:
-Montrose: I have to agree with Sam that your QOTD yesterday was REALLY off the mark. You are advocating that the government seize private property for another private purpose (housing) that you deem socially noble. Allow me to invite you to read the history of the old Title 1 program of the 1950's, if you want to see how that idea works.
-I was also struck that folks are in a mood to curtail freedom: having government seizing private property, having government ban "fedders architects and folks even complained about streetcorner preachers. Lighten up folks!! It's a free country.
-Finally, what's come over Sam? A month ago he was writing that NYC is in a golden age and now he's talking about packing it in and moving to Rye. Not only is our friend a curmudgeon, he's a mercurial one at that.
Posted by: benson at February 12, 2009 9:32 AM
"a house in brooklyn is not so much as it is housing and basic needs as it is a way of signifying one's membership in a certain class"
Keeping up with the Jones'. Catching a lot of people right now. Many a mid-reno listings.
***Bid half off peak comps***
Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at February 12, 2009 9:36 AM
im gonna be honest, brownstoner'shalfoff poster, youre sort of annoying and a really bad one trick my lil pony.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at February 12, 2009 9:42 AM
Christopher;
Your story is quite similiar to mine. Maybe that's why we're on the "right" side of things.
;-)
Posted by: benson at February 12, 2009 9:45 AM
benson....the building that was being spoken of has literally been "abandoned" by it owner. Something needs to be done to places like that which, at the very least are an eyesore and blight on the community, and moreso are downright dangerous.
The preacher/church issue was a valid one as well....they were breaking certain laws and there's no right ro constantly blast music as a public nuissance.
Where are you staying in japan??? I'm always at the Imperial Hotel in Tokyo. It went through its "tired" days in the 90s but I quite like it now. Location can't be beat.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 9:46 AM
Rob-
It does ring true for those who care about status, which is a hell of alot of us. But same can be said for so many things, designer bags, iphones, $100 t-shirts....
Which sparks a new madlib
a _____________is not so much ___________ as it is a way of signifying one's membership in a certain class,
Posted by: Troy McClure at February 12, 2009 9:47 AM
"tramp stamp" "rebellious"
Posted by: dittoburg at February 12, 2009 9:51 AM
DIBS;
I will be staying at the Palace hotel. It's right across the street from the Emperor's Palace complex. I will also be staying in Mito City, in Ibaraki prefecture.
I wasn't referring to the abandoned house. I was referring to MM's QOTD. Take a look at it again.
I also wasn't referring to the issue of the Church with the loud noise. I was referring to some comments along the line that public demonstrations of faith should be banned.
Posted by: benson at February 12, 2009 9:52 AM
As Paul Fussell writes, the real difference between elites and lower classes is that elites take their drinks dry, lower classes like them sweet.
Posted by: infinitejester at February 12, 2009 9:55 AM
a _____________is not so much ___________ as it is a way of signifying one's membership in a certain class,
a nicely mulched sidewalk tree plot is not so much for preserving ground moisture as it is a way of signifying one's membership in a certain class.
I rant.
I see no pattern in the ongoing distribution of mulch in Bed Stuy. Some non-landmarked (and arguably uglier) blocks are getting it. The landmarked block between Bainbridge and Decatur is often the worst for litter while our nonlandmarked block is amongst the cleanest, yet we get no mulch.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 9:55 AM
Yes, the Palace Hotel is not far from the Imperial. The Imperial finally got the "western breakfast" right along about 1994 or so.
If you're a scotch drinker, the Old Imperial Bar at the I H has one of the best selections in the world.
Are you a fluent speaker???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 10:02 AM
a 'pair of glass pumps' is not so much 'just a pair of shoes' as it is a way of signifying one's membership in a certain class,
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 10:03 AM
"im gonna be honest, brownstoner'shalfoff poster, youre sort of annoying and a really bad one trick my lil pony."
I'm gonna be honest too. I give a rat's ass. I speak the truth.
***Bid half off peak comps***
Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at February 12, 2009 10:05 AM
DIBS;
I speak about 10 words of Japanese.
If you're ever in Mito City, there is an incredible pub near the train station called "Sound and Fury". It is notable for two things:
-it has an extensive assortment of bourbons. I've never even heard of half the brands they have.
--it has an incredible collection of America jazz recordings, mostly in the form of old vinyls.
The pub seats about 10. You sit at the bar, sip Bourbon, and the owner plays jazz songs on request on his old turntable. An incredible experience, in little old Mito City, Japan.
Posted by: benson at February 12, 2009 10:11 AM
Here is what most Brownstoner think:
a SUV parked in front of a Fedder's home is not so much a vehicle as it is a way of signifying one's membership in a certain class.
Posted by: benson at February 12, 2009 10:14 AM
ditto, that was hilarious!
Posted by: Biff Champion at February 12, 2009 10:18 AM
For those of us who are not "with it":
what is a "tramp stamp"?
Posted by: benson at February 12, 2009 10:21 AM
"For those of us who are not "with it":
what is a "tramp stamp"?"
It's a tattoo on the lower back, right above the ________. When women get them, they're referred to 'tramp stamp'
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 10:25 AM
tramp stamp = a small tattoo, usually a butterfly or a chinese symbol on above the buttcrack (aka as a coin slot) on a girls (or gay guys butt).
*r*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at February 12, 2009 10:26 AM
Yes, Japan is full of those great quirky places. If you want to go to the IH for the scotch it's "Teikoku Hoteru" to the taxi driver.
LOL...a tramp stamp is that tatoo on the back just above the buttcrack. This discussion always reminds me of this Mexican/Columbian bar/restaurant on 46th street called Tequilazzo. One of the female bartenders always carries her "church key" stuck down the back of her pants!!!!! My hetero friends love it. I'm more focused on the waiters.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 10:26 AM
tramp stamp is a tattoo at the base of the spine - on occasion the bearer of said 'stamp' wears low cut jeans so the 'tat' is viewable to all - get with it benson! ; )
Posted by: cobblehiller at February 12, 2009 10:28 AM
I really think the conservatives among us need to stop beating the very old, very dead horse of "it's all the liberal elite's fault." Anyone with an eyeball who watched the conventions saw exactly who made up each party's demographics- the liberal elite that they seem to think- in their paranoia- controls the country, can be found maybe with an electron microscope.
As for our fears of liberals making the government seize private property or curtail our freedoms- where have you people been for the last 8 years of the Bush Administration? The Patriot Act? The -er- liberalization of eminent domain? The freeing of the evangelical horses to run rampant of the family rights of others? The loosening of financial regulations? No wonder the GOP is in such a sad state. They are taking no responsibility for anything they've done.
Well folks- it's 2009 The old labels don't work, especially because the conservatives have so truly perverted them and turned them inside out. You took the principles of liberalism- as you interpreted them- and used them for your own ends. Sorry guys- we liberals don't buy it. You had 8 years to screw it up and that's the only thing you've done well. Maybe that's why you misinterpret what MM was saying- that new conservative guilt.
Posted by: bxgrl at February 12, 2009 10:29 AM
What's yours, BRG?
Posted by: SnarkSlope at February 12, 2009 10:29 AM
A "tramp stamp" is a tattoo. usually right over the crack of the arse...
Posted by: bren at February 12, 2009 10:31 AM
Benson,
Tramp Stamp - I just did a google image search to provide a picture link, and I can't post anything I found, too much butt cleavage.
Use your imagination about the tattoos.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 10:32 AM
Benson, I unabashedly take the position that I don't have to be politically correct all the time.
I care very much about what I see as the intertwined threads of well built affordable housing, historic preservation, the appreciation and revitalization of good architecture, and the growth and health of neighborhoods. I also advocate sensible reuse and, pardon the use of an overdone phrase, green building practices, by which I mean not so much the use of overpriced eco products, but the recycling of perfectly good housing stock, and the components therein.
The concept of the City as sheriff may indeed prove to be impractical or even illegal, but my comments come from the frustration of seeing buildings lay abandoned and empty, while people are crowding into homeless shelters. I'd like to see more Habitat For Humanity like, sweat equity programs, where people can participate in their home's construction, and keep that sense of pride that comes from doing work and seeing the results of your labor. Anyone who's ever even painted a room knows that feeling.
There should be no abandoned, boarded up housing stock in this city, especially smaller multi-unit buildings, where you would get more bang for your renovation and housing buck. I recently sat in on a community meeting where the concerns of the homeless were discussed, and the general concensus from experts is that moving a vast majority of the homeless into permanent housing would be cheaper in the long run than our current shelter system.
Restoring our housing stock builds neighborhoods, and creates jobs. Some very inventive people are out there recycling building materials, and coming up with great ideas to do things simply, cheaply, and most important, well. Let's use some of those ideas and people. More industries, more jobs. Let's preserve the beautiful buildings like yesterday's Hancock St apts. They add to the streetscape, they are well built, and they are of a size that can provide housing, as well as commercial footholds in a neighborhood.
Enough preaching on the open thread. Just want to say that in a better world, these things would be possible. Enjoy your trip, I wish you travelling mercies, and success.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at February 12, 2009 10:33 AM
benson...you can go up to Takeshi Dori and see lots of Japanese girls with tramp stamps...also girls is sailor outfits, nurse outfits, baby clothes, 10" high heel boots
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 10:34 AM
Bxgrl;
All guns blasting today, eh?
Allow me to remind you that the Patriot Act was re-authorized by the Congress 2 years ago, that is, when the Democrats were in full control of both houses.
As to the demographics of each party, please recall that the blue states are those on the wealthy coasts of the country.
Finally, the Kelo decision of the Supreme Court left the issue of eminent domain up to the states. Take a look at which states have passed private property protection laws, and which have not. One hint: use a red-blue color coding. All the elected officials in NY support the use of eminent domain to take private property for non public use - like AY!!!!
Posted by: benson at February 12, 2009 10:36 AM
Benson,
We are "right", but don't be thrown off by my admission of employer in the Quinn thread. The city may sign my check but I'm still "right".
Posted by: christopher at February 12, 2009 10:38 AM
"What's yours, BRG?"
- Posted by: SnarkSlope at February 12, 2009 10:29 AM
In calligraphy lettering, with scrolls pointing down to my buttcrack it says 'SnarkSlope'
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 10:38 AM
Need I remind you of how congress actually works? the fact that the democrats had more bodies in the seats doesn't mean bills will pass or there won't be changes or politicians will not get coerced. the Republicans are very good at coercion. But as I said, I'm tired of beating a dead horse.
Personally, I don't care which party is supporting eminent domain for private developers. As far as I am concerned, they s*ck. This was never the intention of the use of eminent domain but lets not blame liberals and democrats for every evil. Or accuse MM of advocating governemnt seizures.
Other than that, we missed you!
Posted by: bxgrl at February 12, 2009 10:45 AM
I've seen some very interesting ones on gay guys along those same lines!!!
The best being "Enter AYOR"
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 10:45 AM
if you want to LOL youtube "coin slot snl lindsay lohan"
HAHAHHA
*r*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at February 12, 2009 10:48 AM
We seem to have a bifurcated open thread here.
Posted by: dittoburg at February 12, 2009 10:48 AM
So I'm basically done posting here I think (I know you all will be very happy about that) but I would like to state for the record that Sam's last post on the Remsen Street co-op yesterday was about the most offensive, rude and downright most disrespectful comment I've ever read on this blog. I mean really bad.
Most of my most harshest of words in the past couple weeks were reserved for that sorry excuse for a man, and his post yesterday made me feel like he deserved every word of it, if not more.
He really should be ashamed of himself for talking to another human being like that, especially someone he does not know personally.
Reading that comment was basically the last straw for me.
Feel free to celebrate.
Posted by: 11217 at February 12, 2009 10:49 AM
"BRG's is "Insert Here"
- Posted by: dittoburg at February 12, 2009 10:34 AM
And on my face it says "Slap Here"
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 10:49 AM
^^^^ And I meant 'Slap Here' in a non-sexual way but as a slap across the face, as in someone humilating another.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 10:50 AM
^^^^btw, not referring to you Ditto, just a generalization I guess.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 10:50 AM
11217..I agree that sam's rant was over the top but I too have wanted to say some of those things to rob as well; certainly not the family issues which are sad. I went at him after he posted in the retail sales thread today.
Hope you don't leave. You shouldn't take too much of this so literally or personally. It's largely what blogs are about and you're not likely to find one much more civil, generally than this one.
Besides, you like the real estate porn. Who doesn't?
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 10:55 AM
11217, I think you have good things to say, and I would miss you. I admire your philosophy of doing more with less, and agree with you. Also since I think your career involves working with people in my former pursuits in classical music, I've always felt that we could have a great conversation or two or three. I hope you don't actually leave, you add much to the mix.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at February 12, 2009 10:56 AM
what went down yesterday? dont leave 11217! youre too lolsie to go!
*r*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at February 12, 2009 10:58 AM
Ummm...not trying to be contrary but these folks who post "That's it, I'm leaving, this is my final post!" seem to be the blog equivalent of the skinny model looking girl who says in front of her group of friends "Oh my god I'm so fat, I'm Orka gross, I just can't go out of the house looking like this!"
I'm not begging anyone to stay anymore, you want out, here's the door.
P.S...You look fat!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at February 12, 2009 11:01 AM
quote:
Rob, you have to be the biggest nitwit in the world. No wonder your mother gave you up and your litter mates are turning up on craig's list.
What, oh what, are you doing on a site dedicated to expensive real estate? You can't afford a Happy Meal.
This is NY hon, get your act together and keep your bad-news buffet family problems to yourself. The idea here is to re-invent yourself into a better person not to talk about your childhood in jersey city and say dumb, uneducated things. I am saying these mean things for your own good. NY is a mean and snobbish place. Shape up or ship out!
what exactly did i do to deserve that?
*r*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at February 12, 2009 11:03 AM
Rob, it's best you stay ignorant to it.
Smile, you're an Okay kid :-)
11217, sometimes it's just best to ignore such things. Don't leave, you do have a lot to contribute here. While I did poke fun at you at times, it was all regarding your greatness ;-)
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 11:04 AM
a sort of blog-parasuicide?
Posted by: dittoburg at February 12, 2009 11:04 AM
Ditto, you hot today!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 11:06 AM
what 11217 is doing is called a "boardacide" and it's stupid especially since he does add a lot here, most of unintentional tho, but still a lot.
*r*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at February 12, 2009 11:06 AM
Thanks guys.
Montrose...I follow your posts probably more closely than almost anyone's here, and yes...it's come to my attention that we do have a lot in common, I think. Especially with regard to your opera/classical music interests.
Dave, that personal attack on Rob was absolutely disgusting. I read it and felt sick to my stomach for a second. I know I shouldn't take it so personally, but after so many people seemed to be attacking me this past week (and seemingly siding with Sam) it really left a bad taste in my mouth (don't say it...).
I know it's not about sides (well besides for the team bear/bull stuff) but his comment totally crossed the line.
Maybe I just need a couple days to cool off, and come back with a more open mind when the time is right.
Posted by: 11217 at February 12, 2009 11:06 AM
At least he left a note, ditto.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 11:08 AM
I could meet you at Excelsior and buy you a drink this weekend and we could dish the rest of the posters while watching the lesbians at the bar ogling Suze Orman on the TV.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 11:11 AM
MM,
Connecticut Opera closes down, citing bad economy
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090212/ap_en_mu/connecticut_opera;_ylt=AugZzzjw0vRuAkfmfiDyV9lxFb8C
Posted by: TownhouseLady at February 12, 2009 11:12 AM
11217, don't take what dave said to me heart or be offended by it. i wasn't. im still not even sure which quote youre talking about. you might be overreacting. im one of those brutally honest posters who wears his heart on his sleeve who doesnt really get offended much by people, so i dont think you should get offended about something someone on a blog said to me.
*r*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at February 12, 2009 11:12 AM
Dave, that sounds great. Raincheck. I have a friend staying with me for the next week. I do love Snoozie Orman.
Posted by: 11217 at February 12, 2009 11:13 AM
11217, while I completely agree with you about this (gasp). I'm staying out of it. The last time I called someone out for a belittling comment they made toward another poster, I got slapped so hard it hurt for days.
So I'm staying out of this one.
Rob keep trucking.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 11:14 AM
We've traded a barb or two, 11217, but I hope you stick around.
Sam, however, can shuffle off to Greenwich or Rye.
Posted by: SnarkSlope at February 12, 2009 11:17 AM
Yes rob...that's certainly true...you take a lot of shit here because you do post so openly and you seem never to be offended by it.
I post a lot of shit too and get it back. It doesn't bother me either.
That's what these blogs are about.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 11:20 AM
Perfect ditto, that's exactly what I meant.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at February 12, 2009 11:22 AM
Wow, to get some attention around here you just have to announce you're leaving.
I thought if I put on my glass pumps and revealed my stamp tramp it would do the trick.
Okay, somebody piss me off.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 11:22 AM
^^^^^ oh wait. I'm already pissed off.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 11:22 AM
BRG YES!
It's times like this you learn who your true friends are!
*sniff*
Posted by: TownhouseLady at February 12, 2009 11:24 AM
I might leave someday. Then what would happen here????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 11:25 AM
I admit to smacking rob around once or twice for some stuff he's said but i will agre with 11217- sam went over the line, especially because rob has posted some of his family problems and I think there is a certain amount of trust that he must have in us to do that. I'll snap at rob for something he says- i would never use his (or anyone's) personal life as an attack.
You are a really decent guy, 11217- please stay. I've felt like you many times and several times left for a month or two. But I really do like this online neighborhood and have made offline friends here as well. I think it has to be pretty unusual that bloggers and posters actually do meet and become friends (although I would never be friends with benson- that...that conservative! :-)
B'stoner is a special place and you belong here.
Posted by: bxgrl at February 12, 2009 11:26 AM
"Now don't you remember when you was my honeybee
And you buzzed around the sugar all night long
Now your cheatin' heart is gonna got the best of me
You're gonna miss me when I'm gone
You're gonna miss me..."
Posted by: SnarkSlope at February 12, 2009 11:27 AM
As one who has traded both barbs and pleasantries with sam, I was very surprised and disappointed at his comment to Rob (perhaps not quite as surprising as MM dropping the F-bomb the other day, but surprising nonetheless). I thought it was completely uncalled for.
Posted by: Biff Champion at February 12, 2009 11:27 AM
"I might leave someday. Then what would happen here????"
Move up the date of the next 'Stoner party and make it a dual celebration? :-)
Posted by: Biff Champion at February 12, 2009 11:28 AM
Oh, well DIBS- we would just celebrate!!
But first we would milk it for everything its worth- false tears, fake protestations of how we'll miss you. I'll ask snark to create a special lifetime achievement award for you. We'll all get We Love DIBS tramp stamps and hoist a few at Peaches (is that still there?) while BRG watches through slowily dripping tears.
Posted by: bxgrl at February 12, 2009 11:30 AM
'true friends'
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
If anyone thinks they have 'true' friends here, boy can I tell you a story!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 11:31 AM
That's very hurtful, Biff. It seems a large number of the posters are now becoming offensive, rude and disrespectful.
Are you dissrespectin me???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 11:32 AM
people get over it. i dont find what sam said to be even slightly offensive or hurtful, in fact i just find it funny in like a HA HA yeah you're right kind of way. let's just drop it, seriously. :)
*r*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at February 12, 2009 11:32 AM
Thank you Bxgrl, BRG and Snark. I promise you this was not an attempt to gain attention. I suppose I shouldn't be upset about it if Rob isn't, but it just left a really uneasy feeling. I can give (and take) the harshest of criticism for the most part, but that comment just struck me as hateful.
While I know my writing style and sense of humor seem to come across as extremely arrogant and harsh sometimes, I certainly don't mean it as such. Posters like Sam and wine lover just bring out the worst in me, and I need to learn how to let it go.
Posted by: 11217 at February 12, 2009 11:33 AM
I'm sorry, how is this:
DIBS, PLEASE DO NOT EVER LEAVE US!!
THIS SITE CANNOT SURVIVE WITHOUT YOU!!
Posted by: Biff Champion at February 12, 2009 11:35 AM
THL, I have friends who sang there often, that's a shame. There haven't been that many professional venues around for quite a while. This one will be an important loss. In the line between music school/conservatory graduate and international superstar, there used to be semi-pro, and smaller professional venues where a singer could practice their stagecraft, hone their chops and move up with roles on the resume, so that when you auditioned for the Met, or even for an agent, you had experience. One by one, these organizations are disappearing, and more and more people are struggling to get the few jobs available.
You would think that might separate the wheat from the chaff, talent wise, but that isn't always the case. Like any form of show biz, it's not talent that always wins the day, it's who you know, what you look like, who's your agent or teacher, what you look like, who you'll do to get the job, and what you look like. Sometimes a talent is just so great, none of the rest matters, but those people are rare.
11217, thanks, I hope we get to have those conversations someday.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at February 12, 2009 11:36 AM
"I thought it was completely uncalled for."
- Posted by: Biff Champion at February 12, 2009 11:28 AM
IRONY!!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 11:36 AM
11217 dont let it bother you. people like sam and wine lover wouldn't have the stones to actually say it to anyone's face. seriously. it's really easy to say nasty things behind a keyboard, that's why it's fruitless to really let it get to you. stick around! if you leave, then im leaving too!
*r*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at February 12, 2009 11:36 AM
Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya
Oh Lord, kumbaya
Someone's ranting Lord, kumbaya
Someone's ranting Lord, kumbaya
Someone's ranting Lord, kumbaya
Oh Lord, kumbayah
Someone's bitter, Lord, kumbaya
Someone's bitter, Lord, kumbaya
Someone's bitter, Lord, kumbaya
Oh Lord, kumbaya
Someone's racist, Lord, kumbaya
Someone's racist, Lord, kumbaya
Someone's racist, Lord, kumbaya
Oh Lord, kumbaya
Someone's entitled, Lord, kumbaya
Someone's entitled, Lord, kumbaya
Someone's entitled, Lord, kumbaya
Oh Lord, kumbaya
Someone's genrtifying, Lord, kumbaya
Someone's gentrifying, Lord, kumbaya
Someone's gentrifying, Lord, kumbaya
Oh Lord, kumbaya
Oh Lord, kumbaya
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 11:37 AM
"it's really easy to say nasty things behind a keyboard"
Yep, it sure is!
It's hard to read though.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 11:39 AM
Hm, interesting. 11217, It must have just hit you on the wrong day at the wrong time. I think you'll live. Take two advil and call us in the morning. ; )
"If anyone thinks they have 'true' friends here, boy can I tell you a story!"
Oh please do BRG! Tell us a story!
Posted by: cobblehiller at February 12, 2009 11:40 AM
"that's why it's fruitless to really let it get to you. stick around! if you leave, then im leaving too!"
well if DIBS, 11217, and Rob were to leave, things really would be fruitless around here!
Posted by: Biff Champion at February 12, 2009 11:41 AM
You guys are all too much. No wonder I don't get anything done around here until the afternoon, unless I actually leave the room. That kumbaya was priceless. So was dropping the F bomb.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at February 12, 2009 11:43 AM
Mr. Snark-
I'm always true to you darlin'
in my fashion
I'm always true to you darlin'
in my way
----------------------------
That was a brilliant comment BRG- and I mean it.
----------------------------
11217- I know I have a very emphatic writing style and it comes across sometimes angrier than I mean it to. And then sometimes I really am pissed:-)
But the fact is it's very hard to know wactly what we mean when we type it in- there's no facial expressions, no voal intonations- it's really difficult. But that said, you were right and I admire you for stepping up and saying it.
Posted by: bxgrl at February 12, 2009 11:46 AM
"well if DIBS, 11217, and Rob were to leave, things really would be fruitless around here!"
More bigotry!!!
The fruits---working hard to keep Brookyln sidewalks "stroller free."
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 11:47 AM
Go Fuck yourself!
Or you didn't get the message.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 11:48 AM
bxgrl....that's exactly why we should have the use of emoticons here....problem solved!!!
:-)
L-)
:-(
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 11:49 AM
Well if those guys leave I for one will NEVER buy Fruit of the Loom undies ever again!
Posted by: bxgrl at February 12, 2009 11:49 AM
"Loser" cobblehiller. Thought you would have known that!!! :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 11:55 AM
Thank DIBS : P
Posted by: cobblehiller at February 12, 2009 11:58 AM
Tomorrow I'll bring in a list of old Japanese emoticons...they're really great...things similar to
\../ "banzai"
^.^
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 12:02 PM
>:-( = the Great EVLL :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at February 12, 2009 12:08 PM
11217;
I have to make this quick because I'm travelling.
Please don't leave. I think you are one of the more "vital" posters here. You always have something interesting to say, even if it sometimes gets my blood pressure up
;-)
Actually, as Montrose once said, you appreciate the folks who disagree with you, because they make you think.
I don't know what's gotten into Sam. Sometimes, he can be among the more witty and insightful folks. Lately, he seems to be in a really sour mood. I didn't see his post to Rob until you called my attention to it. It was totally over the line, especially the remarks about his family.
Sam, get a grip!! Please let the old Sam come back.
Posted by: benson at February 12, 2009 12:09 PM
3(== (what's happening to that guy in the picture in the third and bond thread) lol
*r*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at February 12, 2009 12:10 PM
I always find that low class when someone pees over the lot line. The other guy's just in the "grab your feet' position.
I suspect a lot more posters will now pay attention to the Third & Bond" thread now, which was probably the objective in using this photo. Remember the scantily clad contortionist typist?????????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 12:15 PM
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1878509,00.html
Posted by: werner at February 12, 2009 12:18 PM
BRG: What/who was this for?
"Go Fuck yourself!
Or you didn't get the message."
Posted by: cobblehiller at February 12, 2009 12:30 PM
whoops so much for the hipster vandal thread! guess they WERE uggs rob.
Posted by: bowl of dicks at February 12, 2009 12:44 PM
WTF is up with that?????????? I say we boycott for the rest of the day unless that thread is restored.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 12:45 PM
it was restored briefly for an "update" about the woman not being a vandal afterall, but then they took it down again immediately.
Posted by: bowl of dicks at February 12, 2009 12:48 PM
I suspect a lawyer was involved!
Posted by: cobblehiller at February 12, 2009 12:49 PM
Mystery solved...it was a woman from the BID removing stickers, according to Mr. B.
Posted by: Biff Champion at February 12, 2009 12:53 PM
Benson, OK so I have my moods.
Maybe I have been eating too much sushi like Jeremy Piven and have become mercurial.
I was in a bad mood last night.
I promise to be my cheerful, insightful, and witty curmudgeony-self from now on.
Posted by: sam at February 12, 2009 1:02 PM
Hi "r"
I did not think that lady near the mural fit the standard art defacer profile.
What a goof.
Posted by: sam at February 12, 2009 1:06 PM
You can't judge a book by its cover these days, sam.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 1:11 PM
does anyone else think that sometimes people on this blog have two usernames and like to masquerade as dual personalities to create dramz!????
Posted by: gemini10 at February 12, 2009 1:13 PM
and she'd never even get busted even if she had a can of spray paint, a sharpie, and a box cutter in her hand. all she'd have to do was show her lame-o SVA school id card and she'd be let go with just a tiny warning.
*r*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at February 12, 2009 1:14 PM
Oh DO NOT GET ME STARTED on this subject.
Posted by: cobblehiller at February 12, 2009 1:15 PM
"people on this blog have two usernames and like to masquerade as dual personalities"
You can't masquerade what is really in your mind!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 1:15 PM
Some of us have minds? Damn- where did I put mine this morning?
Posted by: bxgrl at February 12, 2009 1:20 PM
11217: If you want to get back at sam, write a really long post. It will drive him crazy! ;-)
See, THL, I am controlling my diva side. It is killing me, but I am working on it.
Posted by: Miss Chiff at February 12, 2009 1:23 PM
"See, THL, I am controlling my diva side. It is killing me, but I am working on it."
A true diva knows that she can never be controlled.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 1:25 PM
"Damn- where did I put mine this morning?"
Check with your landlord, they usually control the renter's mind.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 1:27 PM
Miss Chiff, It can't just be one really long post it has to be five or six consecutive posts, preferably with quotes from Al Gore and the Dalai Lama.
Posted by: sam at February 12, 2009 1:28 PM
"A true diva knows that she can never be controlled."
AH-HEM!!!! and AMEN!!!!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 1:28 PM
O.k., I swear I was not looking for more cat stuff but another website (that shall remain nameless) that I frequent had this posted today and after seeing this little girl I can not stop laughing. The 25 sec. 42 sec. and 1:15 marks literally had me laughing so hard that I scared my cat. It's only a minute and a half. I present:
Kittens Inspired By Kittens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtX8nswnUKU&eurl=http://dlisted.com/
Posted by: TownhouseLady at February 12, 2009 1:30 PM
Dave, while it may be very true that one cannot judge a book by its cover, one can certainly judge a person by how they look and dress, even if one denies it adamantly, or even vehemently.
Posted by: sam at February 12, 2009 1:31 PM
does that little girl have a tattoo on her forearm?
Posted by: gemini10 at February 12, 2009 1:37 PM
And let me add one other thing, good mood or bad, I have just one user name.
Posted by: sam at February 12, 2009 1:37 PM
Me too.
Posted by: Miss Mulch at February 12, 2009 1:39 PM
Yes sam. But you couldn't tell that I was a pompous white asshat that lived in the ghetto and had a thing for Asian & Latin guys and was an unscrupulous landlord and worked at a mutant hedge fund by the way I dressed. I don't even dare go close to the fetishes!!!! :)
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 1:39 PM
Is it just me or is anyone else questioning where in heaven's name did that little girl learn about 'bow wow chicka mow mow'???? LOL
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at February 12, 2009 1:40 PM
OH, NO. What have I started?????
Who's logged in as Miss Mulch??? Biff?????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 1:40 PM
DIBS, You have your pick:
THL
Biff
BRG
I_haz
ditto
and a cast of thousands!
Posted by: cobblehiller at February 12, 2009 1:44 PM
I wondered the same thing Snappy!
If I adopted another screen name it would be compost pile not mulch.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at February 12, 2009 1:45 PM
I think I was the first one to ever do this, except for the What when he got booted. I want a stop to it now, I'm telling you.
Posted by: Bold type guest at February 12, 2009 1:51 PM
Miss Mulch isn't even funny.
How about Miss Trial?
That would be more discriptive.
Posted by: sam at February 12, 2009 1:51 PM
misterbubble is in the house
misterbubble will kill your mouse
misterbubble likes 6 points beer
misterbubble is always near
Posted by: misterbubble at February 12, 2009 1:53 PM
cease and desist
Posted by: TownhouseLady at February 12, 2009 1:53 PM
Maybe this is a bad idea.
Posted by: Miss Take at February 12, 2009 1:53 PM
Dave, all I need to know about you is that you are related to Polly and that you go to the Fort Orange club.
I think I may be...well...smitten with you.
(in real life I'm a hunky New Yorikan with a woody for
your floorplan).
I am out of control.
I have just voted myself off the island to save you all the trouble!
Bye!
Posted by: sam at February 12, 2009 1:59 PM
Jackasses.
Posted by: cobblehiller at February 12, 2009 2:00 PM
sam...I forgot to tell you that on my father's side of the family I'm related to Susan B. Anthony. She was a real "looker" to!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 2:08 PM
Miss AppropriatedFunds
Miss Anthrope
Miss Behavin
Miss Used
Everyone present and accounted for?
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at February 12, 2009 2:08 PM
Guesssss whoooooo??
Posted by: Miss Creant at February 12, 2009 2:10 PM
Miss Andrist
Posted by: dittoburg at February 12, 2009 2:12 PM
Sorry, that was me. :(
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 2:13 PM
omg - am dying - this is tooo funny!!!
Posted by: gemini10 at February 12, 2009 2:14 PM
Miss Sogynist
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at February 12, 2009 2:15 PM
Miss Nomer
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at February 12, 2009 2:15 PM
Miss Hynes...my 4th grade teacher who went berserk in church one day!!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 2:18 PM
The inventor of this line of "humor" is, of course, Mrs. Byamile. Stick to stealing trademark-infringing tap pulls, everyone.
P.S. Please don't feed the droll.
Posted by: slopefarm at February 12, 2009 2:20 PM
This is obveous.
Posted by: Miss Pell at February 12, 2009 2:21 PM
Miss D'mychance
Posted by: dittoburg at February 12, 2009 2:21 PM
Miss Manage
Miss Calculate
ok...I swear I'm done now!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at February 12, 2009 2:22 PM
Miss Seggination (guilty as charged)
Posted by: dittoburg at February 12, 2009 2:22 PM
Miss Begotten
Posted by: cobblehiller at February 12, 2009 2:23 PM
Mr. Bater
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 2:24 PM
are you talking about those Wall St. bonuses Cobblers?
Posted by: dittoburg at February 12, 2009 2:24 PM
WTF???
Cobble, what have you done?
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 2:25 PM
You're blaming this on me? That's rich!
Posted by: cobblehiller at February 12, 2009 2:26 PM
Snappy....would you do Christine Quinn????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 2:30 PM
Betty Swallows
Oliver Closeoff
(ok, I lied. not done!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at February 12, 2009 2:30 PM
"O lookie, Chiff drops in. Who's next? bubble?
- Posted by: cobblehiller at February 12, 2009 1:28 PM"
You called them out...and now they're multiplying.
Make it stop!!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 2:31 PM
"are you talking about those Wall St. bonuses Cobblers?"
Well, I wasn't necessarily...but that works for me!
Posted by: cobblehiller at February 12, 2009 2:32 PM
I love that "Betty Swallows"!!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 2:32 PM
Christine Quinn? Ugh! No!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at February 12, 2009 2:34 PM
What are you saying bayridgegirl? That this is all a Miss Take and none of us should be posting?
Posted by: Miss Take at February 12, 2009 2:35 PM
"Make it stop!!"
And precisely how would you suggest I do that?
Posted by: cobblehiller at February 12, 2009 2:36 PM
Pandora's box is open for business.
Posted by: Oleg at February 12, 2009 2:37 PM
Cobble, should we play the guessing game.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 2:38 PM
Sue Simmons????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 2:39 PM
Oooooh, Guess Me!!
I could be Miss Taken for someone.
Posted by: Miss Take at February 12, 2009 2:40 PM
Sure, why don't you start.
Posted by: cobblehiller at February 12, 2009 2:40 PM
No, DIBS, more like Jennifer Hudson, Serena Williams, and gulp (can't believe I'm about to admit this) Ricki Lake at a size 14!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at February 12, 2009 2:41 PM
aarggghhh, this is so stupid.
Have fun everybody with the Misses.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 2:42 PM
"I like big butts and I cannot lie, you other brothers can't deny...."
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at February 12, 2009 2:42 PM
Carl Quintanilla for me!!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 2:43 PM
"Snappy....would you do Christine Quinn????"
Snappy....would you do BRG????
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 2:43 PM
Actually, I can't play, I have something serious to take care of this afternoon.
But you kids have a good time. Don't break anything, don't play with matches, and don't answer the door for strangers.
Posted by: cobblehiller at February 12, 2009 2:43 PM
Re-write:
Snappy....Do BRG!!!!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 2:44 PM
BRG, if you meet the requirements, it's a date! LOL
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at February 12, 2009 2:45 PM
"I like big butts and I cannot lie, you other brothers can't deny...."
Snappy, I'm backing up right now. Oooh, did I just knock something over with my badunkadunk?!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 2:47 PM
ROFL!!!!!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at February 12, 2009 2:49 PM
"BRG, if you meet the requirements, it's a date! LOL"
Someone who met me at the 'End of the World' get together, tell her, pleeeease. Tell her about my bottom.
Hello DIBS, you saw me from the back tell her!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 2:53 PM
Okay, maybe DIBS didn't check out my rear.
Anyone??
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 2:54 PM
Oh....was that you? I thought that was the wide screen TV.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 2:56 PM
LOL You all crack me up! Ok, it's nap time. This flu isn't relenting :( Be good everyone.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at February 12, 2009 2:59 PM
Oh DIBS, thank you....I think.
Huh?!?!?
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 3:00 PM
Snappy...I got the flu too :(
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 3:01 PM
Where'd everybody go?? I've been away trading the support level and now the rally off of that.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 3:47 PM
I assumed there'd been a power cut, its cricket-quiet in here.
Posted by: dittoburg at February 12, 2009 3:49 PM
They're all taking cat naps.
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=cat%20nap&w=all&s=int
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 3:56 PM
Beauty sleep
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 3:57 PM
Should have stayed in bed all day then. ARR ARRR aRRR
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 4:00 PM
Looks like its just me and you Dave. Lets go for a pint.
Posted by: dittoburg at February 12, 2009 4:00 PM
It's always 5:00 somewhere in the world.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 4:01 PM
You gonna bring the two brothers in law!!!!?????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 4:01 PM
You bed sounds Sealy
Posted by: dittoburg at February 12, 2009 4:02 PM
I thought you were out of action
Posted by: dittoburg at February 12, 2009 4:03 PM
ARR ARRR aRRR
Believe me DIBS, today I would have loved to have stayed in bed. It's been such a bad day.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 4:03 PM
Only when I'm in Philly. Why'd you think that?
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 4:04 PM
Ditto, I'll start drinking if you bring your wife ;-)
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 4:04 PM
DIBS - I thought you had the flu, that normally kills my desire.
BRG - I'm waiting for you to invite us on a strip-hike.
Posted by: dittoburg at February 12, 2009 4:07 PM
I'm at the tail end of the flu...so starting to feel randy!!!
Is a strip-hike a pub crawl of strip joints?? We can start in K-Town at Rick's.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 4:12 PM
Hey brownstoner if you are reading, can you add a "Bar of the Day" ? i really enjoy ROTD, but there are also a zillion and one bars out there which deserve some attention.
(not to mention my usual spots are getting ser stale..could use some new inspiration to try new places)
Posted by: bowl of dicks at February 12, 2009 4:16 PM
I need to get out so much fustration!! I want to hit something right NOW.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 4:19 PM
^^^^Sorry, just venting, nothing related to here...carry on. Flu, strip-hike...fine
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 4:19 PM
thats my girl
Posted by: dittoburg at February 12, 2009 4:20 PM
Ditto, do you like an angry woman?
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 4:22 PM
They can be fun to poke sticks at.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 4:24 PM
I like a bit of passion! grrrr
Posted by: dittoburg at February 12, 2009 4:24 PM
zzzzzzzz
you guys are cracking me up...thanks, I need that.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 12, 2009 4:27 PM
To respond to Rob's initial posting: Brooklyn has "cachet" now -- it's kind of how downtown used to be before it got ruined by celebrities and tourists and such. Brooklyn will no doubt soon be ruined as well.
In fact, last night on Bedford Ave. and North 6th I saw those fauxpunks that hang around Astor Place. And lots of people who look like they belong in the Meatpacking District.
Posted by: mopar at February 12, 2009 5:02 PM
That's sad, mopar, very sad.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 6:02 PM
OK...who's going to be first to respond to the No-See-UMs post in the Forum?????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 12, 2009 6:49 PM
MMMMmmm, isn't that a delicious new kind of consumer packaged good?
Posted by: mopar at February 12, 2009 11:42 PM
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Cousin John's Café & Bakery
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