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February 25, 2009
Condo of the Day: Montauk Club Mega-Spread
Wow. Could this 4,000-square-foot spread at The Montauk Club be the coolest apartment in all of Brooklyn? If it had outdoor space it would be a lay-up. As is, though, the entire floor of the historic club is pretty darn impressive, with its 45-foot-long ballroom and original leaded glass windows, mahogany wainscotting and inlaid mosaic tiles. Crazy. This time, the listing's claim that this is a "once in a lifetime offering" isn't B.S.
25 8th Avenue Condo [Brown Harris Stevens] GMAP P*Shark
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Ooooooh, me want!
Posted by: Montrose Morris at February 25, 2009 12:45 PM
count me in!
it is cool, historical, with lots of character!
Posted by: bkheightscoop at February 25, 2009 12:46 PM
Finally some satisfying realty-porn!
Posted by: wasder at February 25, 2009 12:47 PM
It has a terrace. I think that qualifies as outdoor space. Oddly, the CCs seem low for the amount of space.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 25, 2009 12:47 PM
Very cool, but not sure about that once in a lifetime thing since I saw this place when it was last for sale. Maybe 8-10 years ago. I could be wrong, but think it was this unit.
Posted by: Ringo at February 25, 2009 12:48 PM
How much was it then, Ringo? I think THAT was the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 25, 2009 12:49 PM
Yeah Mr. B, it DOES have outdoor space!
Posted by: denton at February 25, 2009 12:50 PM
"If it had outdoor space ..."
Who needs outdoor space, it's got the park.
"...warmed by radiant heated floors.."
I'm sold.
Posted by: Bklnite at February 25, 2009 12:52 PM
I'm liking the gothic venetian palazzo windows.
Posted by: dittoburg at February 25, 2009 12:52 PM
OMG MINE!
(calling up dad right now to ask sweetly for the 3.8)
Posted by: bowl of dicks at February 25, 2009 12:53 PM
"historic loft masterpiece"? does that even make sense?
Posted by: joe_the_bummer at February 25, 2009 12:56 PM
Holy Jesus. I love it!!
I live within spitting distance of this building and NEVER tire of walking by and staring at it. I think it's one of the most spectacular buildings in Brooklyn. The apartment itself looks stunning.
Posted by: 11217 at February 25, 2009 12:59 PM
That main room isn't looking very cozy though. I need an 80x20ft antique persian sultan's rug. I'd better factor that into the cost.
Posted by: dittoburg at February 25, 2009 1:00 PM
So what do you all think of the price??? I say it goes for asking price or within 10% of it. No less.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 25, 2009 1:01 PM
DIBS, maybe 500K? I hate to think of all the things I saw back then. Then again I bought my first place in London Terrace in 1992 for 50k.
I honestly don't know how first-time buyers get in these days.
Posted by: Ringo at February 25, 2009 1:02 PM
Do I get to keep the picture of Teddy Roosevelt, staring at me as I sleep?
Posted by: cwbuecheler at February 25, 2009 1:02 PM
Used to be the dining room.
You should join the club 11217!
Posted by: Polemicist at February 25, 2009 1:02 PM
Holy S....I love it.
Posted by: boofer at February 25, 2009 1:02 PM
I wouldn't use the word "loft" in any description of this place. Is there an elevator? I assume there is.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 25, 2009 1:03 PM
incredible piece of real estate. super sexy and very impressive...but seems way overpriced for what it is, especially with annual taxes of $14,000+
how many other apartments are in this building? anyone know what floor this is on? i would hope it's at the top.
Posted by: appoggiatura at February 25, 2009 1:04 PM
> "I say it goes for asking price or within 10% of it."
I think I'll have to agree with you on this one, DIBS.
Wowzers.
Posted by: SnarkSlope at February 25, 2009 1:05 PM
Ringo, I was going to say less than $700k for sure. I wouldn't doubt it.
I bought my first house in Chicago....a beautiful 2 family graystone (they are granite there, not limestone) with a 2 car garage for $75k in 1995.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 25, 2009 1:06 PM
> "annual taxes of $14,000+"
If you can afford a nearly $4,000,000 condo, you can probably find the tax money by rooting around in your sofa cushions.
Posted by: SnarkSlope at February 25, 2009 1:07 PM
Polemicist:
I'd like to learn more about the club, actually....do you know where I can find out more info about it?
I honestly didn't know this buildings housed apartments...I assumed it was all offices on the basement and "meeting rooms" and whatnot on the rest.
Learn somethin' new every day...
Posted by: 11217 at February 25, 2009 1:07 PM
11217 - agreed. It's one of my favorite buildings in the area. I kinda wish it was still just a social club, tho, rather than apartments. :)
DIBS - I can't imagine this one falling much, no.
Posted by: cwbuecheler at February 25, 2009 1:08 PM
I believe I saw this place as well, although it could have been another apartment in the building. Well I guess it's not really ONCE in a lifetime.
I remember thinking one could actually play football in it.
Posted by: MR at February 25, 2009 1:08 PM
The price is interesting. The space is huge and the building's aesthetics are impressive. One could imagine this being bought by a celebrity in Manhattan for $15 million. On the other hand, the layout isn't optimal because it wasn't designed as an apartment. And the building's mix is odd - you have to make your way through the lobby past the AA meetings and kids birthday parties.
Posted by: NorthHeights at February 25, 2009 1:08 PM
11217 -
http://www.montaukclub.com/
it still is a social club.
Posted by: bowl of dicks at February 25, 2009 1:10 PM
Many of us would benefit from having AA meetings in our lobby.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 25, 2009 1:10 PM
Who needs a yard - Prospect Park is right there! What's not to like about any of it? I believe it will go close to ask also.
Posted by: Schultz at February 25, 2009 1:12 PM
Oh my god!
I want it I want it I want it I want it I want it I want it I want it I want it I want it I want it I want it I want it I want it I want it I want it I want it I want it I want it I want it!!!!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at February 25, 2009 1:13 PM
Wow, those yearly fees on the club aren't actually too bad. I figured it was a rich people's club for rich people who are rich.
Posted by: cwbuecheler at February 25, 2009 1:15 PM
I know (and covet) this PHENOMENAL apartment. I agree w/NorthHeights about what something like this could fetch in Manhattan. But, the building has a separate entrance/elevator for the residents. Club is on the 1st/2nd floors, this pad IS THE ENTIRE 3RD FLOOR and the 4th floor is divided into 4 residential duplexes...
Posted by: prospect pop at February 25, 2009 1:20 PM
I would actually love to plan a small chamber music series here...
Posted by: 11217 at February 25, 2009 1:20 PM
Yes, cw, not bad. I did find it interesting that they have an affiliation with The Baguio Country Club, Baguio City, the Philippines!!!!!! Hmmmmmmm.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 25, 2009 1:21 PM
I assume the club sold it back "8-10 years ago" when Ringo said he looked at it. I bet they're regretting having made that decision!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 25, 2009 1:23 PM
quote:
And the building's mix is odd - you have to make your way through the lobby past the AA meetings and kids birthday parties.
i guess this place would be perfect for a rich alcoholic pedophile then!
*r*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at February 25, 2009 1:23 PM
We should all sign up and have weekly Brownstoner meetings where Team Bull and Team Bear challenge each other in pool, chess, cribbage, or whatever else it is people play at social clubs, while Team Sidelines (my team) leans at the bar with a drink and watches. :P
Posted by: cwbuecheler at February 25, 2009 1:30 PM
[wiping drool from the corner of my mouth]
Posted by: bayridgegirl at February 25, 2009 1:30 PM
The current owners and their decorating tastes are doing a huge disservice to this place. Along the idea of an owner just being a "caretaker in the life" of an historic property, these people clearly do not understand that. It's show better empty!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 25, 2009 1:32 PM
the club got a complete management overhaul last year or so.
now it's being run by a bunch of 30-something prepsters and they gear it towards an increasing membership base of ......30-something prepsters. (explains why the dues are reasonable). i hear there is a deec single scene in there. maybe i will go check it out.
Posted by: bowl of dicks at February 25, 2009 1:35 PM
I've seen some of the "30 something prepsters" you speak of.
Some look QUITE handsome.
I wanna join and maybe find myself a husband. Although I do prefer the scruffy/nerdy/artsy type, this could work in a pinch...
Posted by: 11217 at February 25, 2009 1:39 PM
daveinbedstuy: normally i'd just think and not even bother to say "to each his own" but WTFAYTA? the aesthetic of this place, inside and out is crazy beautiful.... "It's (sic) show better empty!!!!" me think it show great like this.
Posted by: prospect pop at February 25, 2009 1:40 PM
I don't know if I qualify as a prepster. But I'm 31 and live in Park Slope, so I probably do. :P
Posted by: cwbuecheler at February 25, 2009 1:40 PM
In the inside this apt seems to be really special, and the building is simply gorgeous - I love to show it to all my out-of-town friends.
However, the inside of the common areas were relatively recently "updated" without any concern for aesthetics. I've gone into the building via both the 'private' apartment entrance (to look at another unit that was for sale) and through the club entrance (main door) and in both cases I got the same feeling: the space was redesigned to fit new items (eg. elevators) without much concern for aesthetics.
Also at some point the club, which I think owned the building, was in such terrible financial stress that had to sell some of the space above (hence the apartments) and I wonder if they are financially in better shape now. Otherwise the upkeep of this wonderful building may fall into the laps of the apartment owners, not an appealing prospect.
Not for me then.. but I am still happy to see it everyday on my way to and back from work.
Posted by: Ray at February 25, 2009 1:41 PM
The furniture is ugly and doesn't go with the aesthetics of the place is what my point was pop. They could have at least cleaned up before they took the pics as well. Nitpicking maybe but I still believe it'd look better empty.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 25, 2009 1:43 PM
You're right Ray. And think of what a roof would cost for this place!!!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 25, 2009 1:44 PM
11217 - omg yes, our husbands are probs in there. okay you can have the scruffy one, if i can have bowtie wearing nerd.
Posted by: bowl of dicks at February 25, 2009 1:45 PM
gotcha, dave. alas i'm hoping to have some furniture as ugly as that one day. hey, have you seen the crap they've got on auction in paris from the ysl estate? you'd hate that stuff too...
Posted by: prospect pop at February 25, 2009 1:47 PM
I think this house was featured in Cookie magazine a while ago...here's the link for more pics.
http://www.cookiemag.com/homefront/decor/2008/10/brooklyn_dads
Posted by: new2hood at February 25, 2009 1:48 PM
I take the under on 10% below ask. No doubt it will be a stoner headline when it sells. who wants to bet?
Posted by: joe_the_bummer at February 25, 2009 1:49 PM
Actually pop I love those Eames chairs and I like that sofa in a modern loft....just not here.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 25, 2009 1:49 PM
Bowl of dicks - I bet there is a much better selection in there for you than for me, but yes...let's make it happen! I might just sit outside on those front stairs and smoke and try to look hot to test the waters. If it could work for Jeanine Garafalo in Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion, it could work for me!
On a side note, while the taxes are incredibly high, the maintenance is LESS than for the co-op of the day yesterday.
Posted by: 11217 at February 25, 2009 1:50 PM
Moveover, duplexes and triplexes and one-fams.
***Bid half off peak comps***
Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at February 25, 2009 1:53 PM
I'll take that bet joe.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 25, 2009 1:54 PM
Judging from that article in cookiemag, the owners are TWO GAY DADS!!! And the one with the glasses is HOT!
Who wants to go for a "viewing" of the property with me?
;-)
Posted by: 11217 at February 25, 2009 1:56 PM
From what I understand, $14k a year is only "incredibly high" on a 3.8mm property in Brooklyn. If you spent that much on a mansion outside of the city, your taxes would be way, way higher. Correct?
Posted by: cwbuecheler at February 25, 2009 1:57 PM
Not my cup of tea, 11217.
Joe....lets do a side bet as to how long its on the market. I say it goes for less than 10% off of ask and it is in contract in 6 months.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 25, 2009 1:58 PM
OK dibs, you're on. 3,465,000.00. you have the over. loser has to switch teams for a day.
Posted by: joe_the_bummer at February 25, 2009 2:03 PM
11217 > 3 month trial membership for only $150
p-l-e-n-t-y of time to scope it out, and then bail if it sux. lets do it!
Posted by: bowl of dicks at February 25, 2009 2:04 PM
Will buy beers and/or shots but will never switch teams. I have my standards.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 25, 2009 2:05 PM
you gotta wonder why they didn't use the much better photos from the Cookie article. I'm sure the owners were gifted some of the non-published pics -- that's pretty typical
Posted by: Ringo at February 25, 2009 2:06 PM
Whoever gets this place will be a remarkable person with a remarkable life.
Posted by: infinitejester at February 25, 2009 2:07 PM
"p-l-e-n-t-y of time to scope it out, and then bail if it sux. lets do it!"
Can we be the ones who bring their own flask, sit in the corner and chain smoke while giggling about which guy has the biggest....er...bowl of dicks?
Posted by: 11217 at February 25, 2009 2:08 PM
I think it went for about a million 8 or so years ago. I could be wrong, but I was working for this venture capitalist at the time who was looking at lofts in Chelsea in that price range and I got bored and started looking myself. I showed this to him (well I showed him a HUGE apt in the Montauk Club, am assuming this one), but he didn't want to move to Brooklyn.
It could have been less money though, unsure.
Posted by: Heather at February 25, 2009 2:10 PM
Dances of Vice hold many events in the Montauk Club.
www.dancesofvice.com
Lots of young "Beautiful People" types abound at these.
Posted by: 1910 at February 25, 2009 2:13 PM
That sounds like a great opening to a novel, "I was working for a venture capitalist and..."
Posted by: infinitejester at February 25, 2009 2:13 PM
no smoking for me, but i'm def down with flasks and looking at guys bowls. should i break out the twin set and pearl earrings? aww yeah.
Posted by: bowl of dicks at February 25, 2009 2:14 PM
oh sh*t! I just realized what I said. dibs I am not "switching teams"!!! I just went white as a ghost. beers is fine...I will take the over on 6 months for a second beer.
Posted by: joe_the_bummer at February 25, 2009 2:15 PM
People who say "who needs outdoor space, you've got the park" simply have never had outdoor space and don't know what they are talking about.
That said. I'd take it in a heartbeat.
Posted by: shillstoner at February 25, 2009 2:16 PM
"should i break out the twin set and pearl earrings?"
I'd prefer you break out the twins and then we can pray for a pearl necklace, but sure whatever!!!
Posted by: 11217 at February 25, 2009 2:17 PM
"... and then he got transferred to a Greenwich, CT office and wanted me to come along, but I didn't want to leave my crumbling Williamsburg apartment or reverse-commute, or even be a secretary, and so I turned down a six-figure salary and got another crappy temp job, this time at Cartier, where we dressed windows and I wasn't allowed to handle any of the jewelry. About six months later, the venture capitalist's wife called my apartment at 3AM asking if he was there. I am still not sure what that was all about."
Posted by: Heather at February 25, 2009 2:17 PM
1910.....The Dances of Vice Vernal Equinox Ball is there on March 21, two days after the brownstoner party!!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 25, 2009 2:17 PM
wouldn't property shark or something know what it sold for? and I've always wondered, aren't selling prices public record? is there a county office where you can go to find out, or some other public source?
Posted by: joe_the_bummer at February 25, 2009 2:20 PM
oh geez.....one step at a time here!
Posted by: bowl of dicks at February 25, 2009 2:21 PM
I know...I've gotten ahead of myself here.
Pun intended.
Posted by: 11217 at February 25, 2009 2:22 PM
I want to abound. [sigh]
Posted by: joe_the_bummer at February 25, 2009 2:25 PM
It's something special, but if I had that kind of scrilla, I don't imagine I'd spend it to live here. I can't see spending $4M to share a building, even a historic one.
Posted by: East New York at February 25, 2009 2:28 PM
I didn't think it was possible, but instantly ENY you've relieved my envy!
Posted by: infinitejester at February 25, 2009 2:32 PM
Yup, ENY, $4 MM will get you a helluva brownstone with a huge yard and taxes about 1/3 of that.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 25, 2009 2:32 PM
ENY - sure. If I had $4mm to spend on a house I'd ... probably spend $2mm on a townhouse and $2mm on an investment property. :P
But someone out there is dying for a place like this and will probably put up the dough.
Posted by: cwbuecheler at February 25, 2009 2:33 PM
Great apartment. Great location. Great building.
But the carrying costs are a joke.
That building needs sooooo much work on the exterior.
Your assessments for capital improvements could be
hundreds of thousands a year for several years. Can you even imagine how much it will cost to repair the terra-cotta and the windows and even the cast iron fence that is falling apart? Millions. And I don't think there are that many owners to share the cost.
Posted by: sam at February 25, 2009 2:34 PM
sam, agreed. and a major stakeholder is a club with dodgy finances.
Posted by: joe_the_bummer at February 25, 2009 2:40 PM
CNN is reporting: Galaxy may be full of 'Earths,' alien life.
There's one for team Bull. that should make it on your short list.
Posted by: joe_the_bummer at February 25, 2009 2:47 PM
Almost positive it was on the market for $999,000 in 1998/9, since my boyfriend used to joke about buying it. Wish I knew (and had) then what I know (and still don't quite have) now!
I also looked at the smaller apartments upstairs when they were first for sale. (Couldn't afford those either.) I remember them being cleverly tucked into eaves, but that was a long time ago. Does anyone know if any have been sold in recent years?
Posted by: tasteslikechicken at February 25, 2009 2:51 PM
joe....that's all we need is more aliens invading Brooklyn. It's put the What over the edge. Can aliens be Asshats???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at February 25, 2009 2:54 PM
Brownstoner:
This is a handsome place -- as a club.
The scale, proportions, and finishes of the rooms are hardly domestic. Compare this "apartment" with contemporaries at the Dakota. The latter are big but still feel like places to live. Not the case here, where you'd have to fill the rooms with scores of people eating, drinking, and dancing to make them feel right. (Cigar smoke would be helpful, too.)
I remember one of the butlers at the Montauk Club, many years before its reincarnation as a "hip" literary salon. He was very old school, with a barrel chest, head like a rock, and eyes that would pierce any errant youngster to the bowels.
To think of living in a place where he once roamed the halls gives me the shudders.
Nostalgic on Park Avenue
Posted by: NOP at February 25, 2009 2:58 PM
yes, there are multiple bids in already from planet AssHat...just when I think I'm getting a bargain.
Posted by: joe_the_bummer at February 25, 2009 2:58 PM
I see the pics don't include a view of the perennially empty lot next door. Anyone know what's up with that?
Posted by: Back40 at February 25, 2009 3:04 PM
"But someone out there is dying for a place like this and will probably put up the dough."
I'm sure you're correct about that.
"you'd have to fill the rooms with scores of people eating, drinking, and dancing to make them feel right. (Cigar smoke would be helpful, too.)"
That was my image.....the place looks like what it was...a former ballroom/banquet hall. Although I DO love a good cigar!
Posted by: East New York at February 25, 2009 3:12 PM
NOP I posted a photo of the old Union League Club in the forum today. Do you remember that building being up and running as a gentlemens club?
Posted by: Amzi Hill at February 25, 2009 3:29 PM
Yes THIS place was for sale once maybe late 90's for a million bucks. HA HA AHA AHAHA I thought that was expensive then, and it is expensive now. HA AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, But I would have bought it back then if I had the money.
Posted by: billyboomer at February 25, 2009 3:42 PM
I think sam is right. Wasn't this the building where there was an unit (duplex?)last year that looked interesting but came with a capital assessment of $100K or so?
Agree that it does not look like a "home." And most people who would love the interior would be more likely to be a house than living above a club.
Posted by: BH76 at February 25, 2009 3:55 PM
Swoon! I want it if only to have swanky parties in it. Too bad I dont' have an extra 4 million in my entertaining budget.
Posted by: Mrs. Limestone at February 25, 2009 4:03 PM
11217:
Chamber music happens at the place frequently. While I'm not a member, I have played there before. The Brooklyn Conservatory has classes there, so there are a number of pianos that are all in tune.
If you are willing to play for free, they'll let your group without a problem.
Posted by: Polemicist at February 25, 2009 4:12 PM
Very cool Pole. I didn't realize you played!
I was more interested in curating a monthly or bi-monthly series or something, but good to know about the piano situation. Are the acoustics any good?
On a slightly unrelated note, you MUST check out the new Alice Tully Hall at Lincoln Center. Was there last night for the opening and it's pretty spectacular.
Posted by: 11217 at February 25, 2009 4:38 PM
I should say reopening, as Tully Hall was built in 1969.
The transformation is amazing.
Posted by: 11217 at February 25, 2009 4:46 PM
OMG this place is spectacular. (Coming late to party, sorry.) I bet it goes for millions over ask.
Posted by: mopar at February 25, 2009 4:55 PM
I agree - this place is stunning, but what exactly is the potential purchaser of a place like this? I feel anyone looking to drop 4 million on a condo would look in manhattan, and anyone with 4 million to burn that wanted to live in park slope would prefer a brownstone. but i digress, if i had the cash i would prefer this over a house.
Posted by: dirty_hipster at February 25, 2009 5:31 PM
Problem with this place is the noise coming up from the parties, weddings, bar mitzvah's etc. below. Drove the prior owner mad - lots of complaints to police, lawsuits, etc.
Posted by: PresidentStreeter at February 25, 2009 6:32 PM
With all of the positive comments, I was beginning to think Brownstoner commenters might all chip in and buy this (-ha). Then I read Sam's financial appraisal and reality set in.
"Many of us would benefit from having AA meetings in our lobby."
-- That is funny.
Posted by: BklynSoFar at February 25, 2009 7:03 PM
this needs to be turned into a real club... like limelite, roxy, tunnel. and not some lame ass club from the 1800s for people with 4 mil to spend in broke-lynn to raise lil madison, mckenzie, and their adopted son boopwashie.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at February 25, 2009 7:53 PM
i wish i could change my username to Boopwashie.
Posted by: bowl of dicks at February 25, 2009 8:27 PM
the club indeed went through some hard times in the late 1980s/early 1990s and sold its upper floors. I believe that the Club has several seats on the condo board, so financial decisions (and burdens) are largely shared between the owners (there's only a handful of apartments) and the club.
The club - when I joined about 6 years ago - was a sleepy affair with the usual array of older barflies - long time slopers, long time members - when the missus and I would go for our after work cocktail.
But the transformation over the last 3 years has been incredible. A handful of - yes - 30 something preppies has taken over the social calendar (if not the board of the club) and is luring many new people in as members. Totally different vibe during that after work cocktail hour now, when the missus and I can actually get away from our kids!
If only they could get a good chef - they just got a new one, and the menus look great, and word of mouth is spectacular, but I haven't tried the food yet...
Posted by: epkwy at February 25, 2009 8:31 PM
11217:
The acoustics are actually pretty good. Solid wood and heavy plaster can do that. I mean, it's not a concert hall - but you'll be hard pressed to find a performance venue of a similar size and ambiance with decent acoustics in the area where you can play for almost nothing.
I haven't checked out that space at lincoln center yet; I usually just go to the opera. I'd rather spend my free time performing!
PresidentStreeter:
You are probably right. The problem with the condo buyers is I understand they assumed the club would die and eventually the whole place would become condos. They were wrong. No one in their right mind would ever spend $4MM to live above a bar, especially in this market.
Posted by: Polemicist at February 25, 2009 9:27 PM
I have friends in Manhattan in a spectacular and very similar one bedroom -- but of course, a third the size of this. They are about to have a kid and I thought this would be perfect for them. They must have an elevator for health reasons. But no, she says 3 million is too much! And it's too big and she would never be able to clean it. I bet she'd love to nip down to the bar every once in a while. Oh well. Of course their original apt cost a mere $250,000 in 1999.
Posted by: mopar at February 25, 2009 11:16 PM
Well, the whole living above a bar/club really put this listing into perspective. Good to know.
Posted by: bk14 at February 25, 2009 11:42 PM
"The scale, proportions, and finishes of the rooms are hardly domestic. Compare this "apartment" with contemporaries at the Dakota. The latter are big but still feel like places to live. Not the case here, where you'd have to fill the rooms with scores of people eating, drinking, and dancing to make them feel right. (Cigar smoke would be helpful, too.)" (NOP)
Yes, I agree. It's a little creepy to me as a place to live. (Though, the poor photography certainly isn't helping. With the glowing light in the magazine pictures, it's cozier.)
Posted by: Nomi at February 26, 2009 2:13 AM
Worked on the heating in this apartment an it's really cool!! Owner's are real good people.
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