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January 30, 2009
Open House Picks
Bay Ridge
7601 Narrows Avenue
Brown Harris Stevens
Sunday 12-1:30
$2,500,000
GMAP P*Shark
South Slope
409 Prospect Avenue
Betancourt
Sunday 1-3
$1,169,000
GMAP P*Shark
Kenmore Terrace
221 East 21st Street
Corcoran
Sunday 12:30-3
$1,150,000
GMAP P*Shark
South Slope
270 10th Street
Century 21
Sunday 1-3
$775,000
GMAP P*Shark
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I'm absolutely LOVING the Prospect Avenue house.
The owners have great style, in my opinion.
Posted by: 11217 at January 30, 2009 1:09 PM
The Bay Ridge house is stunning.
Posted by: 11217 at January 30, 2009 1:10 PM
BRG - whats with the bumpy wood floors in that house? And where is there a prestigious block in Bay Ridge? please anser ASAP.
Posted by: dittoburg at January 30, 2009 1:14 PM
Wasn't a nearly identical Kenmore Terrace on the market last summer for under a million? Perhaps I am mistaken, since I do not see it in the archives. (But I did find one from May 2007 for 845K).
Posted by: shillstoner at January 30, 2009 1:16 PM
Why no interior photos on the cute 10th street place?
Also, I'm never going to stop getting sick of this stuff:
"2 Family Frame House In The Heart Of Park Slope South"
Btwn 3rd and 4th avenues is not the "heart" of anything, except possibly Gowanus.
This is more like the Colon of Park Slope South.
When realtors say make blatant and pointless lies it makes me think "this property is so crappy that they know they can only sell it to an idiot so that's who they are marketing too".
Posted by: northsloperenter at January 30, 2009 1:20 PM
Why no interior photos on the cute 10th street place?
Also, I'm never going to stop getting sick of this stuff:
"2 Family Frame House In The Heart Of Park Slope South"
Btwn 3rd and 4th avenues is not the "heart" of anything, except possibly Gowanus.
This is more like the Colon of Park Slope South.
When realtors make such blatant and pointless lies it makes me think "this property is so crappy that they know they can only sell it to an idiot so that's who they are marketing too".
Posted by: northsloperenter at January 30, 2009 1:20 PM
ditto,
I believe that is hand scraped flooring like that shown below.
http://www.lumberliquidators.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=3877&
Posted by: TownhouseLady at January 30, 2009 1:21 PM
was the narrows ave house featured here several months ago? looks really familiar.
Posted by: duckumu at January 30, 2009 1:21 PM
10th street house faces the subway. fun to rock you into your morning.
Posted by: GeorgeAppo at January 30, 2009 1:24 PM
11217, that's a very nice house on the outside. I pass it frequently. Well done. Still, Prospect Ave is a busy 2-way street. Still, if all new mechanicals and such, seems a fair price.
Posted by: denton at January 30, 2009 1:25 PM
10th street house has no interior photos b/c it's probably SCARY inside!
also it faces that weird lot under the Subway bridge, not a nice looking block at all!
The Prospect House is cute - thoughts on price?
I think it's fair enough
Posted by: gemini10 at January 30, 2009 1:27 PM
Yes, Prospect Avenue isn't ideal for some, I guess, but it seems like the price does reflect that.
I really like this part of the South Slope. It's funkytown.
Posted by: 11217 at January 30, 2009 1:29 PM
I love the Narrows Avenue house. The area around Colonial Road is show-stopping. Few people realize how lovley sections of Bay Ridge actually are. The schlep to Manhattan is a bit much for city living, but if you are looking for quasi-burbs, this is as good a place as any to investigate.
Although I love Albemarle and Kenmore, this house is overpriced for this market, especially given it's corner location.
Posted by: Architerrorist at January 30, 2009 1:29 PM
10th St. house is in DUFTO (Down Under F Train Overpass). Not the slope, but too far from the canal to be in Park Slope Shores.
Posted by: slopefarm at January 30, 2009 1:29 PM
woooooohooooooo...Bay Ridge has arrived, and at the top of the list!!!!!
I just did a cartwheel.
No duckumu, it was never featured. I linked to it when a really crappy Bay Ridge House was featured in the Open House Picks and everybody was ragging on the hood.
Ditto, not sure what you mean by the bumpy floors. Believe it or not, everything bumpy in this neighborhood is not my fault.
And what do you mean by 'prestigious block'...as in where us notorious celebrities hang out?
Posted by: bayridgegirl at January 30, 2009 1:31 PM
After an expensive reno, the future of 270 10th Street might look like this:
- http://www.corcoran.com/property/listing.aspx?ListingID=1470257&Region=NYC
Posted by: SnarkSlope at January 30, 2009 1:34 PM
$775k for a probably gut-reno fixer-upper, with an ugly yard, on an ugly street, across from a noisy and ugly subway bridge, on the "wrong" side of 4th avenue ...
Jesus F'ing Christ. :)
This is the kind of building people buy in Syracuse for like $65k.
Seriously, look: http://tinyurl.com/c9e9rt
Posted by: cwbuecheler at January 30, 2009 1:36 PM
brg, that's what i was thinking of. thanks.
never been to bay ridge but some of the blocks look downright bucolic.
Posted by: duckumu at January 30, 2009 1:39 PM
Anyone have 40K?
http://realestate.yahoo.com/New_Jersey/Newark/:5938ecfb40cd73ceea574ebb7ad4764
Posted by: TownhouseLady at January 30, 2009 1:41 PM
Prospect Avenue house has great curb appeal... New front facade. But......... You will have to put up with construction noise for the next 3-25 years as this property adjoins the always in the works Karl Fischer project, formerly known as Lake Windsor.
Posted by: IMBY at January 30, 2009 1:42 PM
I love the house in Bay Ridge. The pictures are wonderful. I hope there is a rich contractor out there to buy it and love it.
That house on 10th street is crazy expensive. Who would buy it for 775 and invest another 150,000 to be able to rent it for 3,200? Marketing to dumb buyers is one thing, but they'd have to luck out to find a buyer who wants to help his fellow man by restoring crap housing as charity.
Posted by: Maly at January 30, 2009 1:46 PM
THL - you know ... properties like that probably aren't bad investments. If NYC continues to grow, people are going to spill over into NJ.
Posted by: cwbuecheler at January 30, 2009 1:47 PM
That Bay Ridge house is indeed a stunner worth drooling over but we don't know much about the prices in that area.
Prospect Ave house has a nice interior but that facade is really tough to look at especially for a place that costs over $1million...non merci!
Posted by: pierre de taille at January 30, 2009 1:51 PM
Betancourt, the broker who has the Prospect Avenue house, just posted a few new listings in Park Slope (9th St & 10th Street). Townsley & Gay just posted another one. Seems like things are picking up, albeit slowly.
Posted by: bk14 at January 30, 2009 1:55 PM
CWB that's why we spilled over into Jersey City, we couldn't afford this house in Brooklyn. Plus the 11 minute PATH train ride to WTC for $1.30 doesn't hurt either.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at January 30, 2009 1:59 PM
DUFTO. Brilliant!
Posted by: Johnny at January 30, 2009 2:00 PM
"going to", my dear?
I'm so in love with the Bay Ridge wood floors!
Posted by: MrsCWB at January 30, 2009 2:01 PM
I lived in Jersey City off of Grove Street for 2 years and LOVED IT. I lived in a gorgeous rental 1BR apt in a 4 floor Brownstone on Wayne Street for $1000 a month. The Nabe had a good cafe, great bagel store and a clean well-stocked boedga on my corner(which is enough for me). At the time (we are talking about 7 years ago) the Brownston next door was going for $750K and it was unreal inside - they had done a gut reno - 2 family on a tree lined street and as THL mentioned that Path Ride wasn't too bad at all. However I did own a car so it made it easy going grocery shopping or riding over to Bed,Bath and Beyond
I miss it!
Posted by: gemini10 at January 30, 2009 2:20 PM
propshark info on 10th street house:
Bldg dimensions 20 ft x 30 ft
Lot dimensions 18 ft x 100 ft .
Hope next door neighbor doesn't find out. :)
Posted by: Petebklyn at January 30, 2009 2:21 PM
the streetview for bridge:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=7601+Narrows+Avenue,+Brooklyn&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=33.160552,55.810547&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=40.632991,-74.03311&spn=0.011692,0.015879&z=16&iwloc=addr&layer=tc&cbll=40.632652,-74.036081&panoid=hfKBkw2xbFJmMTfXmOTOGw&cbp=12,132.92678149371608,,0,5
Posted by: sender9999 at January 30, 2009 2:22 PM
Yea CW, a house like 10th st. would be 15,000 in youngstown oh. NY is sick. I would rather rent. But NYers are convinced of their own greatness so they overpay for crap all the time.
Posted by: billyboomer at January 30, 2009 2:32 PM
Okay, since I’m the ‘unofficial’ spokesperson for Bay Ridge on this site. I’ll just say: The entire area of Bay Ridge proper (sorry, we don’t have Bay Ridge North or a Bay Ridge South, or a Center Ridge or Center Bay – we’re simple folk here) is not all ‘bucolic’. There is vast housing stock in Bay Ridge. There are many blocks of free standing houses, some quite large (and beautiful) on large properties (2 to a block, even one or two houses that take up the entire street). There are also semi-attached, attached and apt. buildings.
The houses vary from Detached Victorians, to this sites most’ prized’ attached brownstones. Yes, we have streets and streets of brownstones also; while I believe there might be more limestones than brownstones in this area; to bricks, and unfortunately Fedders. There are also apartment buildings. It’s mix here.
Below 3rd Avenue and between the high 70’s to low 90’s is rich with the great homes like this one....many many freestanding gems.
I’m not going to lie, the commute is a pain. By train: 45 minutes to mid-town. I prefer the express bus which sucks $5 from me every time I ride it, but it’s comfy, I always get a seat and I can work on my laptop uninterrupted.
There’s lots of shopping and restaurants galore.
Not sure about price. But there are multi million $ homes in this area. I would think a little under 2M is more like it for this house.
I’m not tooting this neighborhood, because honestly, I don’t know how much longer I’ll be here. But it’s not as bad as people make it out to be.
If anyone wants a tour, let me know. Will be happy to show you the great houses of the area.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at January 30, 2009 2:33 PM
Petebklyn, that is hysterical.
So could 10th St be restored to look exactly like Prospect Ave. and then would they be the same price? (Although there is that little detail that 10th St. is in the anus of Gowanus rather than the heart of South Slope, aka the armpit of Park Slope.)
11217, the Prospect Ave. house looks really good in the photos, but it has issues. It is only 16 feet wide. Some kind of buttress or column is smack opposite the living room fireplace. The exterior windows don't line up.
Posted by: mopar at January 30, 2009 2:38 PM
Let's take wagers on the 10th Street House
I think it will go into contract in approx. 3 months for $550-$625K
Thoughts?
Posted by: gemini10 at January 30, 2009 2:40 PM
Yikes, they turned that Bay Ridge Victorian into a McMansion with the addition of those windows in the entry (I guess it doesn't take much). And are you sure those are hand-scraped floors? They look like fake wood with fake wood graining to me. I'm taking my bazillions and buying elsewhere.
Posted by: mopar at January 30, 2009 2:45 PM
Fugly except for Narrows.
***Bid half off peak comps***
Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at January 30, 2009 2:54 PM
Remember when Scarecrow and Rhas Al Gul released their fear-toxin into the Narrows, and then Batman had to whoop some ass, and it was all like WHAMS! and CRASH! and such?
Oh wait, sorry, wrong Narrows.
Posted by: cwbuecheler at January 30, 2009 3:04 PM
Would welcome thoughts on 580 Prospect Ave, just posted by Corcoran. Yes, that's a lot for Windsor Terrace, but rare to find a renovated house thataways (and the 'hood reminds me of the Slope back in 99).
Posted by: gussy at January 30, 2009 3:06 PM
I saw that one too gussy. I don't like a lot of the design choices the owners have made, but it looks promising, if not quite a bit overpriced.
Also interesting to note that on Corcoran's website, the "Most Viewed open houses" are ALL in Brooklyn:
257 Hoyt Street, Boerum Hill
233 Union Street, Carroll Gardens
330 Carroll Street, Carroll Gardens
320 8th Avenue, Park Slope
580 Prospect Avenue, Park Slope
For a sight which I'd say must do 90% of it's business in Manhattan, I think that says something...no...?
Posted by: 11217 at January 30, 2009 3:13 PM
site....that's twice I've misspelled that word this week...
Posted by: 11217 at January 30, 2009 3:14 PM
That Bay Ridge house is pretty impressive, but for $2.5 million, I want to be on Shore Road.
Posted by: Sparafucile at January 30, 2009 3:18 PM
well when you do a google search for:
"park slope brownstones for sale"
the first site that comes up IS Corcoran
someone's paying for some good google word search ads there!
Posted by: gemini10 at January 30, 2009 3:18 PM
hmmm 580 is nice - not my style
problem i see is that they are asking 1.375 for a 1 family in WT
a bit overpriced I think!
Posted by: gemini10 at January 30, 2009 3:21 PM
I just learned something new from Wikipedia's entry about Park Slope...
"The 1890 census showed Park Slope to be the richest community in the United States."
Posted by: 11217 at January 30, 2009 3:22 PM
Why is it again that we buy crappy houses for over a million dollars? Why is it again that someone who earns $250k a year wants to live in crappy houses like this? Why is it again that you NEED to earn $250k a year to live in crappy houses like these?
Posted by: tybur6 at January 30, 2009 3:24 PM
11217 - that was before all the rich people discovered California.
Posted by: cwbuecheler at January 30, 2009 3:26 PM
Ugh...I'm not a California fan.
Parts are beautiful, especially the coast and San Francisco, but I have no desire...
Posted by: 11217 at January 30, 2009 3:29 PM
I love all of the wood frame houses in the southern park slope area. however 1 million is insane. You can rent a floor thru in one of those for under 2000 bucks without even trying.
Posted by: Santa at January 30, 2009 3:34 PM
Santa,
Let's say you are correct (although I think a nice rental would be more like 2500, but let's use your figures) the Prospect house is 3 floors, so that's $6,000 a month. According to the calculations (not factoring in the mortgage interest deduction) your monthly payment on the house is less than the rental income.
Mortgage Amount:
$935,200.00
Down Payment :
$233,800.00
Mortgage Payment:
$5,310.00 per month
Posted by: 11217 at January 30, 2009 3:39 PM
commenting on the Bay Ridge house.u do realize the same house would go for 500k in Queens,and maybe 1.5 mil in Beverly Hills.BEVERLY HILLS people,not Bay Ridge BK.THIS IS F'N INSANE!!!
Posted by: buckfast at January 30, 2009 3:45 PM
11217, you forgot it's a 2 family house. Even accounting for a bigger rent for the garden duplex ($3,000 maybe?),
the numbers would be:
Mortgage:
$935,200.00
Down Payment :
$233,800.00
Mortgage Payment:
$6,221.00 per month (7% on a jumbo, although technically you would need to put down more on an investment property, but for the sake of the game..)
Taxes:
$150 per month
Utilities:
$500 estimated per month
Total:
$6,870
Income:
$5,000 per month if you rent both, $2,000 if you rent the top floor. Is that duplex really worth $4,870?
Posted by: Maly at January 30, 2009 3:53 PM
sorry but Brooklyn is the new NYC
Posted by: gemini10 at January 30, 2009 3:53 PM
buckfast,
You aren't very familiar with Beverly Hills real estate apparently.
Here's what you get for 1.5 million
http://www.trulia.com/property/1073810359-161-N-Willaman-Dr-Beverly-Hills-CA-90211
Posted by: 11217 at January 30, 2009 3:53 PM
Or this...cute but about 1800 sf...
http://www.trulia.com/property/1064649323-454-S-Peck-Dr-Beverly-Hills-CA-90212
Posted by: 11217 at January 30, 2009 3:55 PM
wow 11217, that second link had a $300K reduction
ouch!
Posted by: gemini10 at January 30, 2009 3:56 PM
11217 - I lived in orange county for 4 years, and I have no intention of ever moving back to CA. Might visit from time to time, but that's about it.
Posted by: cwbuecheler at January 30, 2009 3:58 PM
I don't think you'd touch anything remotely like Narrows Ave in a comparable area of Queens (Jamaica Estates, Forest Hills Gardens, Douglas Manor) for under a million.
Posted by: Sparafucile at January 30, 2009 3:58 PM
Maly,
Yours is more accurate than mine for this particular house, but Santa said a floor thru was 2000. So I was just using an example if this were 3 floor thrus (3 floors). Which I know it's not...
In any case, I was just trying to show that the mortgage to rent ratio on a home like this isn't THAT far off.
Neither of us factored in the rather large mortgage interest deduction...
Posted by: 11217 at January 30, 2009 3:59 PM
"wow 11217, that second link had a $300K reduction
ouch!"
And if you scroll down and look at "similar homes for sale" you can see that the typical 3 bedroom 2000 sf house is for sale in the 1.2 - 1.8 million range.
Certainly no where near the size of this Bay Ridge house. I'm not saying the Bay Ridge house is a good price, I'm just saying that Beverly Hills sure isn't a bargain, by any stretch of the imagination. And average incomes in the LA area are not even close to what they are in the NYC metro area, as far as I know. I could be wrong.
Posted by: 11217 at January 30, 2009 4:03 PM
Here's a rather lackluster looking 1600 sf 3 bedroom home which sold for 2,000,000 in December 2008 in Bev Hills...
http://www.trulia.com/homes/California/Beverly_Hills/sold/4307718-306-N-Maple-Dr-Beverly-Hills-CA-90210
That's $1229 per square foot.
Posted by: 11217 at January 30, 2009 4:05 PM
True!
So let's say your marginal tax rate is 31% and you are not subject to AMT (fat chance, really, but let's dream), you're looking at $1,700 per month maybe? so your net cost is $3,170, not too different from the rental value.
Meanwhile, between your closing costs and your downpayment, you could have 250K making some income if invested in safe corporate bonds.
You're taking all the financial risks with no upside, so it would only work if you love, love, love this house, and nothing else will compare.
Posted by: Maly at January 30, 2009 4:09 PM
Of course Maly!
And I think that you shouldn't buy a house (PERIOD!) unless you LOVE it, so I guess we are in agreement!
Posted by: 11217 at January 30, 2009 4:15 PM
11217.i did not say Beverly Hills was a bargain.what im saying is that when u start comparing prices of Beverly Hilly,and Bay Ridge BK,and they look similar.something is very very wrong.
Posted by: buckfast at January 30, 2009 4:17 PM
don't forget to factor in paying for all utilities plus upkeep, in the owning scenario.
Not that I'm a rental advocate ... even if you're losing money while owning, you're losing LESS money than just throwing it away on rent.
Posted by: cwbuecheler at January 30, 2009 4:17 PM
I heart the Bay Ridge house. Its a little sterile without furnishing but it would be pretty amazing with a stylish homeowners touch. Its a LOT of space (albeit for a LOT of money).
Posted by: Mrs. Limestone at January 30, 2009 4:22 PM
Buckfast,
This is ONE home in Bay Ridge.
The majority of homes in Bay Ridge cost no where near this price. You are overgeneralizing big time.
The average listing price of the 90210 zip code (Beverly Hills) is over $6,000,000 according to Trulia.
Not even Brooklyn Heights has an average price that high.
Posted by: 11217 at January 30, 2009 4:23 PM
I'm sorry but that bay ridge house is kind of awful...really awful actually. Whoever said McMansion earlier hit the nail on the head. The floors are truly heinous. Look at the streetview..the homes on this block are nothing spectacular and this house looks totally out of place. This looks like my parents ugly house in Fairfield, New Jersey. From there you can commute to midtown in 30 minutes and pay half as much for this same house. $2.5 is INSANITY for this thing.
Posted by: boofer at January 30, 2009 4:24 PM
so u would be willing to pay that much for Bay Ridge?
Posted by: buckfast at January 30, 2009 4:26 PM
Boofer - what about that Bayridge house don't you like?
I think I kinda dig it - you add a lot of your own style to a place like that
just wondering what about it makes you say it's awful?
Posted by: gemini10 at January 30, 2009 4:27 PM
No Buckfast.
But I'd rather live in Brooklyn than Beverly Hills.
Posted by: 11217 at January 30, 2009 4:30 PM
'what im saying is that when u start comparing prices of Beverly Hilly,and Bay Ridge BK,and they look similar.something is very very wrong.'
Something is very very wrong when Beverly Hills is compared to Bay Ridge.
Did I miss something here? I live in one neighborhood and have been to the other and NO WAY are they similar.
LOL!!!! You guys are cracking me up.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at January 30, 2009 4:31 PM
The floors ruin the whole house in my opinion, but I also find it devoid of any character. Everything is new. If you look at the streetview you will see how McMansiony it really is.
Posted by: boofer at January 30, 2009 4:37 PM
well then 11217,quit trying to be the adversary every time,and agree with me that the price is laughable
Posted by: buckfast at January 30, 2009 4:38 PM
I don't know that the price is laughable, because I'm not familiar enough with this location or the house. I prefer to know what I'm speaking about (at least a little bit) before throwing things out there. Or at least research them beforehand and come up with something a little more concrete.
Posted by: 11217 at January 30, 2009 4:45 PM
The house in Bay Ridge is a show stopper!!!!!! WOW!!!!
Posted by: Streetwise123 at January 30, 2009 4:53 PM
Narrows house sold in 2005 for 999,999...
Posted by: boofer at January 30, 2009 4:55 PM
I live in Bay Ridge and drive by this house everyday to work. Its been on the market for 2 plus months at least and from the outside seems extremely nice not mcmasion at all. It also happens to be in one of the more desirable areas of bay ridge and i think other then the views Narrows ave is nicer then Shore Rd. In my opinion Prime Bay RIdge is between 75th street to 90th street and 3rd avenue to the Shore.
As for the price a house as large but not nearly as nice sold twice for over 2 million dollars on my block (one guy bought the house and got divorced within a year and sold again).
Lastly Im really getting tired of subsudizing real estate taxes for the rest of brooklyn. I bought my house for 670K 4 years ago and the taxes for a 16x50 semi detached house are 4000 dollars. A house eye own on 18th street worth about the same amount i pay 1300 dollars on. In fact I just got my new city assessment on both. Here they are
18th Street
2007 622000
2008 578000
88th Street
2007 745000
2008 788000
So my taxes are going up in Bay Ridge again, while they are going down in the South Slope. Due to the citys archaic property tax system we are already paying triple in Bay Ridge to Park Slope. This means im paying more then most people in 2 million dollar brownstones. I am going to appeal as in this market I would be lucky top to get the city market value of 2007 of 745000, let alone 788000 would be dreaming. Anybody here ever appeal their property tax assesment.
Posted by: mule at January 30, 2009 4:55 PM
oh and worse yet is the house on 18th street would actualy sell for more then 88th street.
Posted by: mule at January 30, 2009 4:59 PM
ur right.im not "throwing things out there" from research.im speaking from my heart.unlike u,i was born and raised in BK.seeing so many of my childhood friends and their families forced to move to all over the east coast,because of these insane ass prices,not only breaks my heart,but makes me wanna do some son of sam type shit.
Posted by: buckfast at January 30, 2009 5:01 PM
11217 - your not getting 2500 for one of those floors.
http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/fee/1013960070.html
this is a whole floor on 13th street and 6th ave and its 1850.
not in a house but a block away on prospect ave and im sure a similar size to a floor thru in the area for 1600
http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/abo/1012900459.html
Posted by: Santa at January 30, 2009 5:06 PM
I don't know about you guys, but nothing kills a thread about a beauty of a house in Bay Ridge more than someone saying they want to do some "son of sam shit"
And here I thought we were having fun talking about real estate.
Posted by: 11217 at January 30, 2009 5:23 PM
I wasn't aware that Sam had a son. Congratulations, Sam.
Posted by: buttermilk channel at January 30, 2009 5:26 PM
just trying to express how it feels to have the place whitch u love and call home, get gentrified,become insanely overpriced,and get disneyfied.
Posted by: buckfast at January 30, 2009 5:38 PM
Those things make you want to kill people?
Sounds like this gentrification thing needs to come to your neck of the woods.
p.s. You should be thrilled with prices coming down now.
p.p.s. The name of this blog is Brownstoner and from my understanding, most of Brownstone Brooklyn was built for upper middle class and upper class people back in the day. I even linked a quote earlier which stated that in 1890, Park Slope was the wealthiest community in the COUNTRY.
Considering your past commenting history calling everyone here POS yuppies and the like, it sounds like you could stand to find yourself another blog to read. There are plenty of areas of Brooklyn which are still run down, crime ridden and filled with uneducated people who would rather talk about killing people than doing something constructive with those feelings.
Posted by: 11217 at January 30, 2009 5:44 PM
The 10th Street house omits all interior photos, but does include a photo for the subway station. Unfortunately, there was a "funeral" yesterday for two of the lines there (M & R). I guess that will cut down on the noise.
Posted by: WBer at January 30, 2009 5:54 PM
hope ur not talking about my hood.C I is a great palce to live.
Posted by: buckfast at January 30, 2009 6:39 PM
Really? The Bay Ridge house? I'm just not feelin' it. The Prospect Ave place is more my speed.
Posted by: rh at January 30, 2009 6:54 PM
"So my taxes are going up in Bay Ridge again, while they are going down in the South Slope. "
Thanks, us South Slopers appreciate your contribution, Really!
Posted by: denton at January 30, 2009 7:08 PM
Honestly, I am shocked that no one is really talking about the Kenmore Terrace place. It looks beautiful, and it's a huge home (3000 sq ft). We've really only looked in prime Ditmas Park, West Midwood, Beverly Square West, and Prospect Park South, but this home seems like a bargain for the price, and it's just one block away from Ocean Ave.
Posted by: cobble hill girl at January 30, 2009 7:19 PM
times have changed buckfast
its no longer the 1970's. Or the 50's or 30's or 10's.
Posted by: Santa at January 30, 2009 7:37 PM
no but i wish things were more like they were in the 80s and early 90s.dam NY was a great place.u could drink and get high on streets all u wanted,without being harassed by the law.only the weak would complain about crime.
Posted by: buckfast at January 30, 2009 7:45 PM
Three Cheers for Brownstoner for featuring a Bay Ridge house. I know you have readers from this neighborhood.
For those that do not know there are really nice places over in those blocks.
Posted by: Ray Bridge at January 30, 2009 7:51 PM
I think a lot of people are commenting about this house in Bay Ridge and have never been over to the area where this house is located. Yes, maybe you have been to 3rd or 5th avenue for dinner a few times, but where this house in located is a completely different feel. The homes on these blocks are STUNNING!!!!! Absolutely stunny!!! I drive by sometimes to just look at them and dream. There was a house over there on the market about 6 months ago for $4M. Homes on those blocks sell for million dollar prices.
Posted by: Streetwise123 at January 30, 2009 7:55 PM
I am loving that Bay Ridge house. Too bad I wouldn't even know how to get to Bay Ridge to attend the open house.
Posted by: boroughbred at January 30, 2009 10:18 PM
I left Park Slope for Bay Ridge three years ago. We bought a limestone which we love, in the 70s off third, the ones BRG spoke of. I never knew streets like narrows, ridge and colonial existed and some of the vics on those blocks are quite stunning. Some are for sale.
That being said some people have done some numbers on their homes that could make you vomit but that happens in many nabes. But that does not take away from the homes that people have restored to their original splendor. To each his own.
Our taxes have also gone up, but that's okay by me since the school we are zoned for ranks high every year. Compared to the 8K my sister pays in NJ its not too bad. I hope they don't keep going up !
Posted by: italiana71 at January 31, 2009 8:12 AM
CHG: The East 21st Street building is interesting, but it's not what someone is typically looking for if they're browsing the other neighborhoods you mentioned, which are comprised largely of detached, wood-frame homes.
Like Prospect Park South, it's landmarked, part of the Albemarle-Kenmore Terraces Historic District. That could be a plus or a minus, depending on what someone is looking for.
The building itself looks nice, but it faces onto East 21st Street, not the Terrace cul-de-sacs. Most of that block is large apartment buildings. Take a look at the street view in Google Maps.
East 21st Street is one block from both Ocean Avenue and Flatbush Avenues. It gets a lot of traffic from folks trying to avoid them. The garden is on the street, not behind the house, so it would not be a quiet space.
Pluses are it's around the corner from the landmarked Flatbush Dutch Reformed Church and its beautiful graveyard, a 2-minute walk to the B/Q Church Avenue stop, and a 5-minute walk, if that, to Prospect Park. Shopping and amenities are also right around the corner on both Church and Flatbush Avenues.
Posted by: Xris at January 31, 2009 12:31 PM
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