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January 20, 2009
'Notorious': How the Neighborhood Has Changed
In the wake of the Biggie Smalls biopic 'Notorious' last week, The Times compares and contrasts the rapper's neighborhoodwhich includes both Clinton Hill and Bed Stuy, though The Times can't seem to keep them straight in the early 1990s with the gentrified version 15 years later. Smalls grew up in a third-floor apartment at 226 St. James Place (right) in Clinton Hill, a building that has since become a condominium and undergone the requisite sprucing up. From the article:
It is a flashback to an era of Walkmans, corner drug deals and rap duels in a neighborhood that is now largely referred to by real estate agents as Clinton Hill, where there is more diversity, million-dollar condos, gourmet restaurants and less apprehension about walking alone at night. The movie is as much a commentary on the neighborhood that inspired his music as anything else...What once was a busy strip that included fast food restaurants, a liquor store and an arcade is now a stretch of eclectic dining spots, wine shops and markets featuring organic items. A restaurant named Soulé International Cuisine used to be a bodega that served as a front for a drug market, Lil’ Cease said. The liquor store often pictured behind Biggie in documentary footage is now the Fine Care Pharmacy.
Then again, maybe things haven't changed that much: Four people were stabbed at a release party for the movie early Saturday morning in East Flatbush. Any folks in who lived in the neighborhood back then care to add their own observations about how times have changed? Or how they haven't?
'Notorious' Captures Bed-Stuy as It Once Was [NY Times]
Photo from Clinton Hill Blog
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What once was a busy strip that included fast food restaurants, a liquor store and an arcade is now a stretch of eclectic dining spots, wine shops and markets featuring organic items.
liquor stores and arcades >>>>> sooooo much better than wine shops and organic items. sorry but it's true! bring back ms. pac man and night train!!!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at January 20, 2009 10:25 AM
The biggest difference is that today, the type of people who post on Brownstoner (largely white and upwardly mobile) are interested in the area. Back then, we were the only ones concerned about Bed Stuy, Brooklyn, and hip hop music. But all things change.
Posted by: East New York at January 20, 2009 11:07 AM
"Things Done Changed" - Ready To Die
...done changed further, better and worse, since that track.
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Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at January 20, 2009 11:44 AM
Only prices have changed. You can still "get it" in Clinton Hill.
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Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at January 20, 2009 12:01 PM
There is now a Connecticut Muffin on Myrtle Avenue. I think that speaks volumes.
Posted by: brooklynfamily at January 20, 2009 12:49 PM
Lets not forget, " The What" is a Notorious BIG song.
Posted by: Prodigal_Son at January 20, 2009 1:01 PM
The owner of that liquor store was the late Vinnie Moore, a great and vivid personality (and my friend) who would tell fascinating stories about growing up in Brooklyn and hanging out with the Duke Ellington Band. Vinnie went to high school with drummer Max Roach and one of his best friends had been saxophonist Ben Webster. Vinnie had also owned a Bedford Stuyvesant jazz club called "Brownies."
Incidentally, Brooklyn had some serious jazz clubs in the fifties and sixties. Talking to long-time Brooklynite jazz fans you'll hear stories about Bedford Stuyvesant's Blue Coronet, where Miles Davis played, and Town Hill on Eastern Parkway, where you might run into Billie Holliday at the bar.
As to the shooting in East New York, it sounds like Brownstoner is having problems keeping its neighborhoods straight. East New York is a world away from both Bedford Stuyvesant and Clinton Hill.
Posted by: AdrianLesher at January 20, 2009 1:29 PM
"release party for the movie", AdrianLesher.
Thanks for sharing the jazz history though.
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Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at January 20, 2009 1:44 PM
I think what Mr Lesher was saying,was that Mr B was asking if Biggie's neighborhood had changed (Bed-Stuy,Clinton Hill) , then says "Maybe things haven't changed that much" and mentions a stabbing in a neighborhood quite far from where Biggie grew up, so it appears confusing. However there was a shooting in Bed Stuy on Sunday at an under age party.
Posted by: lifer at January 20, 2009 8:02 PM
pitbull said,
" liquor stores and arcades >>>>> sooooo much better than wine shops and organic items. sorry but it's true! bring back ms. pac man and night train!!!"
you cant be serious!!!! in the words of johnny mac!
here are some crime stats with a historical twist. so much for wanting the old days. i say good thing they're gone. this is for the 88th precinct
1990 Murders-19
2008 Murders-4
1990 Rapes- 54
2008 Rapes- 7
1990 Robbery- 1556
2008 Robbery- 237
1990 Fel. Assault- 639
2008 Fel. Assault- 134
1990 Burglary- 1029
2008 172
1990 Grand Larceny - 611
2008 Grand Larceny- 452
1990 G.L.A. - 1053 ( not sure what this stands for )
2008 G.L.A. - 102
Looks like gentrification is a good thing. Who's gonna say it isn't?
Posted by: Springs at January 21, 2009 8:36 AM
Crime was on the decline in the neighborhood before gentrification. Actually this applies to the city as a whole since the early nineties. Is gentrification a good thing? That depends on who you talk to, there are ALWAYS two sides.
Posted by: clintonhillchill at January 21, 2009 1:30 PM

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