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January 30, 2009

Manhattan Is to Brooklyn As...

In a rather glowing profile of The Developers Group today, The Daily News cites one sales strategy of its founder, Elan Padeh: He asks prospective Brooklyn buyers which neighborhoods they like in Manhattan, and then directs them towards their Brooklyn equivalents. Here's how he lines them up:
  Park Slope = Upper West Side
  Williamsburg = East Village + Tribeca
  Fort Greene = West Village
  Dumbo = Soho
  Carroll Gardens = Nolita

Pretty accurate, we'd say. What are some others?
How a Sales Team Led Borough's Condo Push [NY Daily News]
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All places in Manhattan where there's practically no room left on the sidewalks. If I ever go back it'll be back to the sleepy, boring UES. Absolutely no hipsters there either.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at January 30, 2009 9:35 AM

"Manhattan Is to Brooklyn As..."

As Brownstoner is to a Asshat?

The What

Someday this war is gonna end...

Posted by: Return of The What at January 30, 2009 9:36 AM

Staten Island = Roosevelt Island

Posted by: onevalianteffort at January 30, 2009 9:36 AM

As DIBS to a Retard?

The What

Someday this war is gonna end...

Posted by: Return of The What at January 30, 2009 9:38 AM

Downtown Brooklyn = Alexander Platz

Posted by: cb6 at January 30, 2009 9:40 AM

Chinatown = Chinatown

Posted by: onevalianteffort at January 30, 2009 9:40 AM

Fort Greene = W. Village?

WTF?

Posted by: northsloperenter at January 30, 2009 9:41 AM

As The What is to Irrelevant.

Poor DUMBO, you got so snobby so quickly.

Posted by: twc at January 30, 2009 9:44 AM

What=The Tombs & Rikers

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at January 30, 2009 9:44 AM

Crown Height = Central Harlem

Posted by: pierre de taille at January 30, 2009 9:48 AM

wow and i really wanted to take a daytrip to dumbo to see what it's like. after having worked in prime soho for 8 years i dont think that's what id want to experience. i assume they are just talking about housing stock right? not like actual atmosphere and prices of crap?

*r*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at January 30, 2009 9:48 AM

Dave's Mom to my Nut Sack?

The What

Someday this war is gonna end...

Posted by: Return of The What at January 30, 2009 9:50 AM

Nice, What. Very childish too.

If you want to start talking trash about people's mothers you're going to lose that battle because I know more words than you do.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at January 30, 2009 9:54 AM

Prospect Heights = LES

Posted by: Squattersrights at January 30, 2009 9:57 AM

Whoopi Goldberg = Chris Rock

Posted by: Biff Champion at January 30, 2009 10:04 AM

Canarsie = LES

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at January 30, 2009 10:04 AM

victorian flatbush - the meat packing industry

*sorry im just trying to add to the ridiculously off pairings in this thread*

*r&*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at January 30, 2009 10:06 AM

cornerbodega = koreangrocer

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at January 30, 2009 10:07 AM

Bensonhurst = Little Italy

Posted by: TownhouseLady at January 30, 2009 10:07 AM

"If you want to start talking trash about people's mothers you're going to lose that battle because I know more words than you do."

I know it's early, but I would like to nominate that for QOTD.

Posted by: jwald at January 30, 2009 10:07 AM

Millbasin = Any "Trump" Building

Posted by: TownhouseLady at January 30, 2009 10:08 AM

As for DUMBO = Soho, they must be referring solely to the housing stock (lofty apartments) since the streets of DUMBO resemble a ghost town compared to Soho's sheer density.

Posted by: jwald at January 30, 2009 10:09 AM

East New York = Beatdown

Posted by: Squattersrights at January 30, 2009 10:11 AM

DUMBO = SoHo (in some poor hipsters' minds)

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at January 30, 2009 10:11 AM

people in those soho lofts SERIOUSLY need to get window shades, especially when they live across the street from an office building. there is this old lady who is always on the toilet. kid you not. the whole building laughs at her. we can see right into her bathroom! and there is this creepy man who is always changing his underwear in this partitioned area of a loft that looks like a dance studio.

*r*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at January 30, 2009 10:13 AM

Sunset Park = Spanish Harlem

Posted by: TownhouseLady at January 30, 2009 10:17 AM

Do you still have to be a certified artist to buy in SoHo?

Posted by: denton at January 30, 2009 10:19 AM

the evil side of me hopes clueless people from the midwest google various neighborhood names, come across this thread, and see some of the x = y comments and move there based on it only to be in total shock hahahah

*r*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at January 30, 2009 10:22 AM

Denton if by artist you mean $loaded$ then yes.

Posted by: TownhouseLady at January 30, 2009 10:24 AM

No disrespect THL, but I think parts of Bushwick are closer to Spanish Harlem than Sunset Park

Posted by: Troy McClure at January 30, 2009 10:31 AM

Greenwood Cemetery = Dead

Posted by: Squattersrights at January 30, 2009 10:33 AM

I nominate the greenwood cemetary comment for SOTD! I know it's early in the day but it surely rates the award.

bxgrl
FWSOTD

Posted by: bxgrl at January 30, 2009 10:37 AM

What a silly freakin article. There's never been a "new soho" no matter how desperate developers are to call dumbo, or williamsburg or whatever. Williamsburg isn't the new east village. The indie music scene is decent, but nothing like what was going on in the 70s and 80s. FG = WV?? Really? I heard for years Cobble Hill was the new WV.

I think it's true that Brooklyn is the new creative center for NYC, but there's not nearly the stuff going on there was 10,20,30 years ago (except construction of new condos and Duane Reades replacing locally owned business)

Posted by: dirty_hipster at January 30, 2009 10:37 AM

Wow, that was an incoherent sentence. Excuse me while I run to Balthazar for my morning Red Eye.

Posted by: dirty_hipster at January 30, 2009 10:40 AM

None taken. I'm sure there are several areas of Brooklyn that resemble Spanish Harlem.

Posted by: TownhouseLady at January 30, 2009 10:41 AM

Bourbon Presbyterian is the new Appletini.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at January 30, 2009 10:41 AM

"prime soho"

Is soho really big enough or diverse enough that there are "prime" and "not prime" sections? I think not...

Posted by: northsloperenter at January 30, 2009 10:43 AM

I would kill for a properly made Presbyterian right now. But with Rye. Bourbon is for girls.

Posted by: dirty_hipster at January 30, 2009 10:50 AM

I think folks forgot the most obvious one:

Brooklyn Heights = Upper East Side

Posted by: benson at January 30, 2009 11:00 AM

Gowanus = My Sphinkster

Posted by: cb6 at January 30, 2009 11:05 AM

Downtown BK = Hell's Kitchen

Posted by: 11217 at January 30, 2009 11:09 AM

quote:

Is soho really big enough or diverse enough that there are "prime" and "not prime" sections? I think not...

well prim soho is considered the two blocks on broadway between houston and spring. this is mostly just for commercial stores tho. tho honestly most of them are shuttering hardcore... guess just closed down (tho i have never heard or seen anyone where guess in years so maybe that's why) and a ton of other big name stores are all closing. the rent in the area is too much even for big chains.

*r*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at January 30, 2009 11:09 AM

gowanus comparison = yawn

Posted by: bxgrl at January 30, 2009 11:16 AM

I always thought "Prime Soho" was West of Broadway, ending at West Broadway.

Good god Broadway sucks. The only store that is okay is uniqlo, and maybe bloomies.

Posted by: dirty_hipster at January 30, 2009 11:19 AM

I assume a "Sphinkster" is an assinine hipster.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at January 30, 2009 11:19 AM

Soho will be prime for a long time unless it's decimated by a nuclear bomb. Only then it goes back to the pre-70s cheap cast iron spaces where artist and galleries took shops. As it is, a wholesale economic $$$ collapse, if it happens, will be that bomb. And you can move in.

Posted by: cb6 at January 30, 2009 11:21 AM

and, moving out of the brownstone belt

Bensonhurst = Chinatown
Brighton Beach = Novosibirsk
Kensington = Karachi
Flatbush = Port au Prince
Midwood = Beitar Illit

Posted by: Sparafucile at January 30, 2009 11:30 AM

Greenwood Cemetery = UES.

Posted by: SnarkSlope at January 30, 2009 11:49 AM

"Greenwood Cemetery = UES."

Well, the master himself shows us amateur snarksters how it is done!!!

Excellent, snark. Hand's down winner of SOTD!!

Posted by: benson at January 30, 2009 11:53 AM

Mr. Snark has removed himself from competition for his own award (you see? ethics has its own reward). And I should point out while a classic of snarkism, there is an earlier entry for Greenwood Cemetery: Greenwood Cemetery = dead.

I myself personally feel this earlier rates a 5 meow for its clear statement of the obvious, done in classic Gracie Allen mode. It just missed being categorized as Yogi Berraeasque by virtue of its subtle social commentary.

Atlantic Yards= Sargasso Sea

Posted by: bxgrl at January 30, 2009 12:06 PM

Atlantic Yards = Second Avenue Subway.

Posted by: SnarkSlope at January 30, 2009 12:13 PM

SnarkSlope is going full throttle today!!!

Posted by: benson at January 30, 2009 12:17 PM

Brooklyn Bridge Park = World Trade Center

Posted by: Biff Champion at January 30, 2009 12:18 PM

Cobble Hill = Carnegie Hill
Bay Ridge = Inwood
Prosopect Park = Central Park

Yes I am bored! I've beeb on hold with the city for 30 minutes trying to get my tax rebate check!

Posted by: bookistan at January 30, 2009 12:19 PM

denton, technically you do. but that includes actors, musicians, etc. the $loaded$ ones simply break the law b/c it's not enforced. the city has no incentive to keep those prices low.

Posted by: jingle mail at January 30, 2009 12:25 PM

"Cobble Hill = Carnegie Hill"

Meh, not so much.

Cobble Hill = G*d's Country!

SnarkSlope: Have I mentioned how much I adore you lately?

Posted by: cobblehiller at January 30, 2009 12:29 PM

Broadway Matinee = Marty Markowitz

Posted by: benson at January 30, 2009 12:30 PM

darn you, benson. I was thinking of how to work Marty into this!

Posted by: Biff Champion at January 30, 2009 12:33 PM

Brooklyn Heights = Fourth Floor of the American Museum of Natural History

Posted by: Biff Champion at January 30, 2009 12:36 PM

House of D = Lipstick Bldg

Posted by: cb6 at January 30, 2009 12:38 PM

1 Hanson Place= sex toy shop in Park Slope

Posted by: bxgrl at January 30, 2009 12:46 PM

bxgrl..you're outta line here. Your comparisions are both in brooklyn. Get to the end of the line and think of another one.
:-)

Posted by: bayridgegirl at January 30, 2009 12:56 PM

BRG- you are so jealous you didn't think of it

Posted by: bxgrl at January 30, 2009 1:05 PM

Not jealous, it doesn't make sense! It's not balanced.
The whole point here is to compare Manhattan to Brooklyn.

Now if you said:
Chrysler Building = Sex Toy [shop] in Park Slope

Posted by: bayridgegirl at January 30, 2009 1:13 PM

Girls, girls! You're both pretty!

Posted by: SnarkSlope at January 30, 2009 1:15 PM

Pardon my spelling, it should be, "Grls, Girls..."

Posted by: SnarkSlope at January 30, 2009 1:17 PM

Fulton Mall = AMC Gremlin

Posted by: Squattersrights at January 30, 2009 1:20 PM

Hmph, they both may be pretty but they didn't win the SOTD yesterday that I won for my incomparable comparison! ; )

Posted by: cobblehiller at January 30, 2009 1:21 PM

'Girls, girls! You're both pretty!'

But I'm prettier!

Posted by: bayridgegirl at January 30, 2009 1:22 PM

So sorry, didn't stick to the formula

bxgrl = Pretty Manhattan
bayridgegirl = Prettier Brooklyn

Posted by: bayridgegirl at January 30, 2009 1:24 PM

Hey, how about comparing some Brooklyn/Brownstoner posters with famous NYC personalities:

Benson = Rudy Giuliani
Bxgrl = Ruth Messinger
What = Son of Sam
Montrose = Montrose (of NYT fame!)
Snark = David Letterman
Sam = Ed Koch

aannnnddddd

BRG = Sally Field (technically not a NY'er, but it is so appropriate)

"You love me, you really, really love me!!"

Any other suggestions?

Posted by: benson at January 30, 2009 1:24 PM

brooklynlove = bernie goetz

Posted by: BrooklynLove at January 30, 2009 1:45 PM

Montrose = Maya Angelou
Biff = Jerry Seinfeld
BRG = Angelina Jolie ;)
Mrs. Limestone = a nice Martha Stewart
Prop Joe = Anne Coulter
Dave = Dave letterman's sidekick... that band lead...shit...

Posted by: Nokilissa at January 30, 2009 1:52 PM

Sebb = Barbara Corcoran

Posted by: benson at January 30, 2009 1:54 PM

Snarkslope = Bill Murray
Cobblehiller = Bonnie Hunt
Bxgrl = Judy Davis
Sam = insert smart, wry curmudgeon
What =

Oh! Paul Schaffer...Dave = Paul schaffer.

Posted by: Nokilissa at January 30, 2009 1:57 PM

Noki: Paul Schaeffer

Posted by: cobblehiller at January 30, 2009 1:58 PM

What = Lewis Black on steroids

Posted by: cobblehiller at January 30, 2009 2:04 PM

cobblehiller- you realize, of course, you will ALWAYS be a follow after me in the SOTD's :-)

Montrose = Mother teresa (she will so kill me for that)
Biff = Brad Pitt (to BRG's Jolie)
benson = dick cheney
dave = Rupert Everett
BRG = Julia Louis Dreyfus
denton = Ben Franklin
cobblehiller= Tina fey
snarkslope = Snidely Whiplash
rob = Spongebob Squarepants
nokilissa= Helen Mirren (but much younger)

Posted by: bxgrl at January 30, 2009 2:17 PM

What is Nat Turner
Montrose is Harriet Tubman

Posted by: bxgrl at January 30, 2009 2:19 PM

What = Al Pacino (I always read his rants in my head in the voice Al Pacino uses in the devil's advocate)

Posted by: dirty_hipster at January 30, 2009 2:21 PM

Please don't insult Jerry Sienfeld or Lewis Black by making those comparisions :-)

And most of all don't insult Snarkslope by comparing him to David Letterman.

Snark Slope = Woody Allen

Posted by: bayridgegirl at January 30, 2009 2:22 PM

Are you accusing Mr. Snark of marrying his much younger adopted stepdaughter???

Posted by: bxgrl at January 30, 2009 2:26 PM

Hey, where drifting away from comparisons with famous New Yorkers, but what the heck:

BHO = Carlton Sheets of late-night infomercial fame

"I bought this house with no money down! You can do it too"

Posted by: benson at January 30, 2009 2:27 PM

Re: "What is Nat Turner" [sic]

http://tinyurl.com/d4f6eg

Posted by: Xris at January 30, 2009 2:27 PM

In keeping with the new leaf that I turned over last night, I will defer to you in all ways bxgrl, now keep wafting! : )

Tina Fey! Wow! You are too kind!

I do sort of look like her, if you squint and tilt your head back and look up and I were to lose 20lbs!

benson = dick cheney is HILARIOUS!

Posted by: cobblehiller at January 30, 2009 2:29 PM

Snark = David Sedaris

Posted by: TownhouseLady at January 30, 2009 2:30 PM

"Snark = David Sedaris"

Bingo!

Posted by: cobblehiller at January 30, 2009 2:31 PM

spongebob squarepants? lol how odd cuz just a few weeks age i found on the street a sponge bob square pants ice cream making machine! i couldnt for the life of me figure out how it works. it was probably missing a part or something.

*r*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at January 30, 2009 2:33 PM

On the theme, Polemicist = Squidward

Posted by: dittoburg at January 30, 2009 2:41 PM

> "Snark = David Sedaris"

I'll take that one, thanks THL. And once again, bxgrl proves she is hardwired straight into my brain. Snidely Whiplash is my computer desktop wallpaper. I kid you not.

Posted by: SnarkSlope at January 30, 2009 2:44 PM

Where did Poley go, have you seen him here ditto? I haven't seen him on here forever and I feel guilty that I was mean to him over the 'homeless' situation.

Posted by: cobblehiller at January 30, 2009 2:45 PM

Atlantic Mall Target = Brownstoner's Flea

Posted by: Squattersrights at January 30, 2009 2:48 PM

I think he dropped out to work in a temple worshipping the god of high density.

Posted by: dittoburg at January 30, 2009 2:52 PM

then benson = Mr. Crabs (this is one versatile guy!)

( Squidward. I laughed so hard, dittoburg. Luckily I wasn't drinking coffee at the moment or the computer would be toast)

You may be right, c'hiller. Of course you could be Wanda from the Fairly Oddparents.

And on further thought-
denton = Jimmy Neutron

I hope you kept the ice cream maker, rob. They probably have the instructions posted online- you can see if you do or not.

Posted by: bxgrl at January 30, 2009 2:52 PM

Snidely...er----Snarky- perhaps we could team up as Boris and Natasha. You still get the moustache.

Posted by: bxgrl at January 30, 2009 2:54 PM

If Jerry Seinfeld and Lewis Black should be insulted, Angelina Jolie and Julia Louis Dreyfus should be horrified (and sue for defamation of character).

Posted by: Biff Champion at January 30, 2009 2:54 PM

i put the ice cream (maybe it was an ice maker actually) in my building's orange corralle for someone else to take.

*r*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at January 30, 2009 2:56 PM

HMPH. I was HAPPY with Tina Fey. You could have stopped there, but noooo....

Wanda, I don't look A THING like her. Fairly Odd parents...Ok, so what if my parents were fairly odd...what are you saying bxgrl, hm?

Posted by: cobblehiller at January 30, 2009 2:58 PM

c'hiller- poley is one of those people who can say the most stupid, unkind and unthinking statements of the century and not get why people react like they do. He deserves everything he gets- sorry to sound so mean about him, but some of the unbelievably racist statements he has come out with go far beyond the pale. we're all prone to outrageous statements- look at the What. But Poley really believes his garbage. he's cold and ruthless and a truly miserable human being. And I confess, for me it's really personal.

Posted by: bxgrl at January 30, 2009 3:01 PM

c'hiller- I can see you with sugar pink hair. Tina Fey with pink hair- and think of all those fairy powers you would have. You could make all of us go Poof!

Posted by: bxgrl at January 30, 2009 3:03 PM

11217 = Jeremy Piven
Biff = Jamie Buffalino
Wasder = John Stewart
Snark = Ira Glass

Posted by: Nokilissa at January 30, 2009 3:06 PM

bxgrl, I hated 99% of the spew coming off his keyboard, it's just my own guilt. I kind of enjoyed being mean to him that day - maybe too much.

Posted by: cobblehiller at January 30, 2009 3:08 PM

Noki, who's Jamie Bufalino (and should I be worried)?

Posted by: Biff Champion at January 30, 2009 3:12 PM

Time Out NY, Get Naked guy!

Posted by: Nokilissa at January 30, 2009 3:13 PM

11217 = Al Gore

See y'days HOTD

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at January 30, 2009 3:14 PM

I'm sticking with Tina Fey! But the fairy powers are VERY VERY tempting!

bxgrl, just as an aside, I'm curious as to how, sight unseen, you equate me with PINK HAIR! Was it something I said?

Posted by: cobblehiller at January 30, 2009 3:14 PM

Speaking of fairy powers, bxgrl, am I not poofed enough?

In any event, let us go then, you and I, when the evening is spread out against the sky, in search of moose and squirrel.

Posted by: SnarkSlope at January 30, 2009 3:16 PM

I can understand that too. He's said stuff to me, to Montrose- pretty much to most of us at one time or another. He just appalls me because he isn't just spewing nonsense to get attention or keep up his persona- he really believes that crap.

Posted by: bxgrl at January 30, 2009 3:16 PM

c'hiller- no, actually I just love Wanda. She's so...fey

Posted by: bxgrl at January 30, 2009 3:18 PM

'I'm curious as to how, sight unseen, you equate me with PINK HAIR! Was it something I said?'

Probably this:
"opposite of sausage fest = clam bake!"

Posted by: bayridgegirl at January 30, 2009 3:19 PM

Boris... dhalink! Ef curse ve must! Ve can esk Mz Palin vere isk best moose huntink grund

Posted by: bxgrl at January 30, 2009 3:21 PM

To be honest, I've never actually seen Fairly Odd Parents...I had to Wiki it!

Posted by: cobblehiller at January 30, 2009 3:22 PM

What are you saying BRG?

Posted by: cobblehiller at January 30, 2009 3:25 PM

I, Dick Cheney, am not amused with the Mr. Krab comparison.

I am ordering waterboarding for everyone involved.

Posted by: benson at January 30, 2009 3:26 PM

benson- that was HILARIOUS!

Posted by: bxgrl at January 30, 2009 3:27 PM

Ixnay on the Abkray.

Posted by: SnarkSlope at January 30, 2009 3:29 PM

Speaking of waterboards, I saw this clip on SNL week before last(?) about the "going out of business sale" at Gitmo. Really funny stuff.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/53457/saturday-night-live-gitmo-ad

EVERYTHING MUST GO~~!

Posted by: TownhouseLady at January 30, 2009 3:33 PM

OOPS! You guys are aware that we are NOT in the OPEN THREAD! ACK!

[I have to get over this puritan guilt.]

Posted by: cobblehiller at January 30, 2009 3:33 PM

doh!

Posted by: TownhouseLady at January 30, 2009 3:37 PM

'You guys are aware that we are NOT in the OPEN THREAD!'

That's why I'm keeping quiet...I don't want to be accused of getting nasty

Posted by: bayridgegirl at January 30, 2009 3:42 PM

cobblehiller = the Soup Nazi

Posted by: Biff Champion at January 30, 2009 3:43 PM

Ok, let's move this show over to the Open Thread, so that BRG can relax and be herself!

Posted by: cobblehiller at January 30, 2009 3:44 PM

Cobble truthfully, I'm beside myself today.
So much to say, but hesitate to say it.
Carry on, you all are doing a fine job.

Posted by: bayridgegirl at January 30, 2009 3:55 PM

Hesitate to say it? What's changed!?
Well, if your recent days/thoughts have been anything like mine, I'm sure we have a lot to talk about.
I really should be getting more work done today.

Posted by: cobblehiller at January 30, 2009 4:03 PM

East Village + Tribeca? No way. You can't put those areas together with respect to value/class and be serious.

East Village (alone) = Williamsburg.

***Bid half off peak comps***

Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at January 30, 2009 4:16 PM

has anyone seen the developers group office? it's freakishly modern and austere. after walking past it one dark winter night and seeing a lone woman in the glowing room at the reception desk, my husband said "hello, i'm here working in the future." it looks like an art installation.

have to hand it to them - built a giant business.

@ brownstones: also, i think the tribeca/williamsburg example refers to the spaces. there are many similar lofts and while tribeca is now home to the 50 something set, back in the day, it had a vibe like williamsburg does now. i remember loft parties and sample sales in tribeca make shift apartments 15-16 years ago for sure.

agree that people who now live in the east village like williamsburg and come often for the food and music. had someone who rents in the east village ask me the other night about what to buy there in fact.

Posted by: wine lover at January 30, 2009 5:09 PM

Meatpacking's Spice Market = Williamsburg's Sea (Thai)

Posted by: mopar at January 31, 2009 12:24 AM

Sunset Park = Hamilton Heights + Chinatown

Posted by: Forrestian at January 31, 2009 11:24 AM