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January 5, 2009

Condos of the Day: 330 Park Place

When the developer of 330 Park Place started butchering the charming house he had just bought back in the fall of 2006, alarmed neighbors wrote in to us about it. Their alarm proved to be justified, as the developer proceeded to lop off the second story of the hundred-year-old house in preparation for stacking four new levels on top of the existing parlor floor. Last year wrote this about the building: "Not only does the building feel more out-of-scale in person than on film, one can also see certain details which reveal the extent of the developer's slavish devotion to FAR maximization at the expense of proportion, design and neighborliness." Now the property is on the market as five condo units ranging in price from $695,000 for a 1,087-square-foot duplex to $899,000 for a 1,671-square-foot duplex with garden. Judging from the quality of the kitchen cabinets and the choice of baseboard heating, this conversion isn't exactly screaming "high end" to us.
330 Park Place Condos [Ahrlty.com] GMAP P*Shark
Overbuilt in Prospect Heights: 330 Park Place [Brownstoner]
330 Park Place: As Bad As Everyone Feared? [Brownstoner]
Developer Non Grata: 330 Park Place Destruction [Brownstoner]

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Don't hold back, Mr. B ... tell us how you really feel. :)

As for me, I'm not a fan of chopping up old buildings but at least they tried to make the exterior look appropriate? I guess? That's the best I can do at seeing the bright side.

The interiors are pretty ugly. If I'm buying a brand new condo, I don't want fixtures that pretend to be from a vintage brownstone. The tile in the bathroom and the cabinetry in the kitchen doesn't do it for me at all.

And, as always with non-corcoran and non-bhs listings it seems: needs more floorplan!

Posted by: cwbuecheler at January 5, 2009 12:50 PM

Am I supposed to arrive with my own Fridge and D/W???

Posted by: gemini10 at January 5, 2009 12:55 PM

"Am I supposed to arrive with my own Fridge and D/W???"

Yes...and blindfolded!

When you go to the link for the Condos, ironically, the last photo is of well preserved brownstones.

Benson, it's not Friday, but do you want to have a go at this Schlock?

Posted by: bayridgegirl at January 5, 2009 1:00 PM

At least there are no Fedders holes!!!!

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at January 5, 2009 1:07 PM

I cringe whenever I walk past this awful building. Now I see that the interiors are just as bad as the outside! I miss the lovely original building with a great front porch…..
Also, there is a newly installed external wheelchair lift…..isn’t the building a walk up? And the first floor a “rec room special”? How could anyone in a wheelchair live here anyway?????

Posted by: PHfamily at January 5, 2009 1:08 PM

Brownstoner:

Yikes!

This is bad, truly.

But that's a sweet little brick number to the left.

Anyone know anything about it?

It reminds me of town houses in Chicago's Gold Coast. And does the archway go with it?

Looks like the house was built in the 1920s and if it includes the arch to accommodate cars that would go to a garage in the back.

The terrace and chimneys are nice domestic touches.

If it's a new building, congratulations to whoever built it. But I suspect it's been around for a while -- and a rebuke to the designer of its awful next-door neighbor!

Nostalgic on Park Avenue

Posted by: NOP at January 5, 2009 1:22 PM

NOP- the house next door is almost identical to the original house that was destroyed by the developer to make room for the new condos.....Yes, I think the hosues were built in the 1920's.

Posted by: PHfamily at January 5, 2009 1:39 PM

boy, i am totally confused. Is that brick building the one we're talking about? what happened to the beautiful front porch? omigod. that is horrible. And the kitchen/bathrooms? Screams Home Despot. Jeez- what a heartbreak.

Posted by: bxgrl at January 5, 2009 1:40 PM

It's almost as ugly as the garbage put up on Underhill and Park Place.

Posted by: Shoots and Leaves at January 5, 2009 1:41 PM

It's almost as ugly as the garbage put up on Underhill and Park Place.

Posted by: Shoots and Leaves at January 5, 2009 1:41 PM

It's really telling when the broker doesn't place a picture of the property in the marketing materials.

Posted by: Shoots and Leaves at January 5, 2009 1:42 PM

this building really depresses me. in combination with the 2 on either side, it's a very disconcerting part of the block. all respect to NOP, but the brick thing on the left is just scary and, in person, really ugly. PH Family - i thought it was the house to the right (not the brick thing in the left) was what 330 used to look like. and about that place (the one on the right), i'm sure it used to be beautiful and could be again, but with the monstrosities to the left, it just has a sad, tired look about it that says, "why bother?"

Posted by: i disagree at January 5, 2009 1:48 PM

hahah Home Despot ... awesome.

There are a hojillion new condos in Prospect Heights available right now, and I feel like all of them are dramatically overpriced. These are no exception, though at least the street is a lot nicer than some of the new condos I've visited or walked by in that area.

I expect to see this and a lot of other buildings go rental in the near future, unless the developers are willing to drop the purchase prices way down. $800k+ is just not reasonable for most of P-Heights, imho.

Posted by: cwbuecheler at January 5, 2009 1:49 PM

I am sorry- yes, 330 Park used to look like the prett house to the right...

Posted by: PHfamily at January 5, 2009 1:50 PM

They couldn't even dust the floors before they took photos? That begs the question of what other details have they over looked that you'll discover weeks after moving in.

Posted by: lincolnlimestone at January 5, 2009 2:03 PM

the good thing is, this is the house that will bring landmarking to Prospect Heights: people who think this is a travesty and a desecration have really pushed hard for landmarking, and now the neighborhood is on the calendar!

Posted by: epkwy at January 5, 2009 2:18 PM

why is this the condo of the day?

Posted by: supreme at January 5, 2009 3:32 PM

The "new" condo building looked very similar to the building on the right, with a front porch. It was one of three similar buildings. It was the Eastern most one. Really ashame. I assume this is now part of the Landmarked district?

Posted by: 1842 at January 5, 2009 3:46 PM

I went and checked it out about a month ago. I thought the maintenance was high(around $500) as it didn't include the real estate taxes (also high) or heat or hot water. When I asked the agent what exactly your cc's were going for, she couldn't say.

Posted by: kaylas at January 5, 2009 4:24 PM

cwbuecheler- I liked "hojillion". :-)

Posted by: bxgrl at January 5, 2009 5:00 PM

This should be a crime!!
and I am with lincolnlimestone how much effort would it have taken to dust and sweep before taking the pictures.. just yuck!

Posted by: scarter at January 5, 2009 8:01 PM

Like the destruction of Penn Station was the impetus for the Landmarks Preservation law, this abomination should seal the deal on the need to landmark Prospect Heights.

Posted by: sekuba at January 5, 2009 8:26 PM

call me crazy but it could have been a lot worse. like daveinbed said, no fedders holes, also the FAR was NOT maxed out actually . . . the brick facade while will not win design awards does not stick out like crazy looking stucco or anything.

Posted by: cdw234 at January 6, 2009 10:30 AM

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