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January 6, 2009
Closing Bell: FIPS Goes Undercover
FIPS goes undercover for a four-part series to expose the Target in the Atlantic Center Mall (or also known as "The Seventh Level of Hell"). What is your experience with the store?
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Posted by: daveinbedstuy at January 6, 2009 4:05 PM
It's not bad. I found some stuff for my dog in there and some cheap pillows. I got in and got out. Worked for me.
Posted by: East New York at January 6, 2009 4:05 PM
I was in this story once, browsing. The intercom came on:
"Ladies and gentlemen, I just wanted to let you know I just got fired for some motherf-ing bulls*t and I wanna say Target can suck my motherf-ing d*k!"
Then when I went to pay, I said to the cashier, "Got any job openings?"
Posted by: infinitejester at January 6, 2009 4:07 PM
Get there right when they open on a Sunday morning at 8am - everything is stocked and the store is empty. No lines, no waits, no headaches. Getting up that early is no fun, but when I walk out of there with everything I need by 8:20am ( before everyone and their gramma even take a shower) it makes it all worth it.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at January 6, 2009 4:09 PM
"I wanna say Target can suck my motherf-ing d*k!"
pretty much sums up the attitude/values of all the employees there.
corporate has insights into out-of-stock reports, so its not like they dont know whats going on.
Posted by: goldie at January 6, 2009 4:12 PM
My experience:
Wandering through with my father (helping me move) and my wife. We stop in the pet aisle to pick up some cat litter, and I grab a one of the big 10 lb cardboard cartons with the plastic strap built on.
And I'm like "Hey, this is pretty heavy, I could lift weights with it" and lift it up like I'm doing a curl, and as I'm bringing it back down, slowly and with no great force, the plastic handle snaps and the box falls four feet onto the floor and blows kitty litter all over the aisle.
My wife, my dad and I all stare in horrified silence for a few moments, and then my dad starts cackling and goes "THAT WAS AWESOME!" and my wife goes "Let's get the hell out of here"
And we head for the cash registers ...
Posted by: cwbuecheler at January 6, 2009 4:15 PM
it's a Tar Jay in the ghetto. what exactly do you expect!?!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at January 6, 2009 4:16 PM
The target in Philly is really a great place to shop compared to this, any Walmart and most other places I've ever beeen in. They are not all run the same. I suspect the manager's a complete idiot.
The employees depicted in that video are worse than the ones in the Philly WalMart which I would never again enter during the rest of my life.
Is this indicative of the quality of the other stores in the Atlantic Mall????
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at January 6, 2009 4:20 PM
I don't think the place is so bad really.
Posted by: infinitejester at January 6, 2009 4:20 PM
I say we do this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwzFfDg0QoI&feature=related
Posted by: TownhouseLady at January 6, 2009 4:23 PM
I'll back DIBS up. The Target in Philly is terrific. Actually, many Targets across the country are clean, well-stocked, and well-run. The Atlantic center one just isn't one of them.
For the record, with my kitty litter story, we would've totally found someone and alerted them if the place had not been a screaming hellhole. It was like a scene from Apocalypse Now or something in there, just completely overflowing with people, merchandise littered everywhere, etc. We decided it was better to just get out than to try to do the right thing, in this instance.
Posted by: cwbuecheler at January 6, 2009 4:24 PM
That store sees more people in a day than some suburban stores see in a week but all of the stores are stocked the same. Urban stores have to be better stocked and renovated/cleaned more often than counterparts doe to the numbers of customers that they service. If I go to Target, I go the one at the Junction (Flatbush & Nostrand) and then I stop by Canal Street Jeans which is right up the block. That Target is not as crowded and they don't run out of stock as often.
Posted by: Chaka at January 6, 2009 4:25 PM
HA canal street jeans moved to brooklyn? i remember when it was in downtown manhattan and then closed down
&*Bfly*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at January 6, 2009 4:30 PM
This Target is a disgrace. It is always a mess, the shelves are unstocked, and the lines are usually really long, with employees full of attitude. I have lived in other major cities and their "urban" Targets are not this bad. That is no excuse. It feels like there is a "Brooklyn effect" that makes everything and everyone have lower standards, and a bad attitude to boot.
Posted by: brooklynfamily at January 6, 2009 4:33 PM
i know it's wrong or might sound strange, but i kinda like slightly ghetto female cashier 'tude. it's totally different than obnoxious skinny black-framed glasses whiteboy coffee server obnoxiousness.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at January 6, 2009 4:36 PM
And their nails are typically done up nicer!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at January 6, 2009 4:38 PM
Agree that it is bad. But my favorite experience in a store was at Barneys -- about 25 years ago. I went in to buy a men's sweater. There was a very self-important young man (sales clerk) who was trying to impress a distinguished older gentleman (customer). The gent asked for a cardigan. The young man said they had nothing like that! the older gent pointed to one, at which time the young man said, with great aplomb, "OH, you mean button-up-the-front sweaters!" There are so many levels of ignorance....
Posted by: BH76 at January 6, 2009 4:40 PM
I will NEVER go to this target, again. Once is enough to know that it's crappy.
I guess I'm fortunate that I have a car and go to the one on the 'Island' when I go visit family.
Wide aisles, stocked shelves; except they never seem to have Toms of Maine Mouthwash :( and I can take the cart to the car and load my purchases in the trunk.
City dwellers push their carts toward the exit and get stopped short of the doors, they have to haul their plastic bags to waiting cabs or down subway steps fearing that things will fall out.
I love target in the Suburbs!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at January 6, 2009 4:40 PM
The Atlantic Center Target is much better than the Pathmark across the street - which is truly a hell hole.
Posted by: fexleycb at January 6, 2009 4:41 PM
People don't steal carts in the suburbs. You could probably fit the whole cart in that Caddy trunk.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at January 6, 2009 4:42 PM
"i kinda like slightly ghetto female cashier 'tude."
*rob*, you're right on.
Its kinda hot
Posted by: jasetheace at January 6, 2009 4:43 PM
pitbull, thats b/c one is genuine anger/bitterness and the other is pretentious & self-righteous. the former more root-level and understandable than the latter from someone pouring coffee but thinking they really should be a rock-star somewhere instead of wasting their time on you. my 2c.
Posted by: goldie at January 6, 2009 4:44 PM
Fexleycb...right on regarding the Pathmark. Funniest announcement overheard on Pathmark p.a. system: "Tyrelllll! Bring me back my cell phone! An' you betta not have used up all my damn minutes or called no long distance!"
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at January 6, 2009 4:46 PM
The lines suck, but I always find what I want - bedsheets, silverware tray, underwear, wineglasses. I actually got some good help once.
Posted by: infinitejester at January 6, 2009 4:47 PM
goldie....your analysis, armchair as it may be, is spot on!!!! LOL
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at January 6, 2009 4:48 PM
hmmm that's a pretty valid way of looking at it goldie.. never thought about it that way!
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at January 6, 2009 4:49 PM
Brooklyn and Manhattan have a lot less retail sf per capita than other parts of the country. I've been in that Target at non-holiday time where the express line goes back almosts to the refrigerated cases. Still, I'm always kind of amazed when the big discount chain stores feel more like a Salvation Army after a bag sale than a store store.
Management should be way more strict. I'd be embarrassed to be in charge of a place where employees are clumping together socializing in front of the merchandise or yammering on a cell phone in a less trafficked part of men's apparel. And that sea of partly filled carts at the top of the escalator is always there.
Posted by: Bessie at January 6, 2009 4:52 PM
total armchairing here. zero credentials on my part.
Posted by: goldie at January 6, 2009 4:54 PM
Bessie....the most annoying part about retail help is when they stand there talking to each other and there's a customer waiting. I ran an NAPA auto parts store years ago and that was the first thing they were instructed about.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at January 6, 2009 4:56 PM
Bessie: "I'm always kind of amazed when the big discount chain stores feel more like a Salvation Army after a bag sale than a store store."
Totally. And that Old Navy in Atlantic Center also always reminds me of going to a thrift store.
Posted by: brooklynfamily at January 6, 2009 4:58 PM
Wow, someone really blew the cover off here. People got all sweaty when there was a posting about a mugging the other day and they don't mind this unclever crap? I guess it might be funny to others, but it's a store in an urban area that moves a lot of product and has employees who make minimum wage. People who know how and when to shop can figure it out, others can go to Short Hills and avoid black people altogehter (isn't that the subtext, really?. I'm not sure wtf a duvet cover is either. Teriffic piece.
Posted by: jawbreaker at January 6, 2009 4:59 PM
brooklynfamily....so this kind of bad service runs throughout Atlantic Mall?? that's what I kinda thought. never been there myself and din't feel like going for fear of it being a complete hell hole.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at January 6, 2009 5:01 PM
It's cheap, it's a mess, the shelves are sporadically stocked, the staff ranges from oblivious to offended that you exist, but shopping for a duvet cover there is dumb.
I confess that I've never had a good experience shopping there, but since I'm mostly buying diapers for my kid to crap on, I can't say I go there expecting a high end retail experience.
They could improve the place by firing some of their floor staff so they will not be in my way so much.
Posted by: northsloperenter at January 6, 2009 5:01 PM
'Thank you' should be re-instituted into the retail jargon.
Heck, it should be mandatory that the cashier say 'thank you' after I pay for my purchase.
DIBS, don't go to Atlantic Mall, you will regret it for the rest of your life!!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at January 6, 2009 5:05 PM
That place is a nightmare. If only for their own greed, they should stock their shelves. I don't really need anyone to help me while shopping so they can just move the people yapping to stock or cashiers and solve their problem really easily.
Posted by: Mrs. Limestone at January 6, 2009 5:06 PM
DIBS - I have never had a good experience at Atlantic Mall. Still, I go there.. because it is walkable from my apartment. But I keep my expectations very low.
Posted by: brooklynfamily at January 6, 2009 5:08 PM
How about cashiers saying "Hello"? Or acknowledging you exist whatsoever? Or am I revealing myself to be not from New York here, that I would expect something so outrageous?
And there is NO racial subtext here, as far as I am concerned.
Posted by: brooklynfamily at January 6, 2009 5:12 PM
I worked retail (cashier and salesfloor) while in school; in NYC; and we were required to greet the customers and after the purchase say 'Thank You, have a nice day'.
When I shop, it irks me when the employees don't do the basic retail protocols. I've walked out of stores for discourteous service, leaving my selections on the counter.
Note to retail employees:
You're in the service industry, earn my spending power.
If I don't shop in the store, you won't have a pay check.
No matter how crappy your job is put on a smile, be pleasant and address the customer.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at January 6, 2009 5:23 PM
I was a retail store district manager for a few years and it's apparent that the corporate standards are clearly not being adhered to.
This is particularly important when the economy is struggling and consumers aren't as willing to part with their hard earned money. They need to make the shopping experience a pleasurable one.
The local management should be fired and the employees should be retrained or let go. There are plenty of people who'd be happy to DILIGENTLY work there provided the management backs their efforts. If management doesn't care then why would the floor staff?
Posted by: TownhouseLady at January 6, 2009 5:26 PM
I should clarify it wasn't at Target.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at January 6, 2009 5:29 PM
If you dislike the place, vote with your feet - don't shop there. If enough people stay away, Target will undoubtedly get the message. Still I wouldn't get my hopes up - as I understand it, this location is among Target's most successful.
Posted by: East New York at January 6, 2009 5:40 PM
They have wonderful sheets, towels, curtains. Don't buy a mirror. They are all in back and they are all broken. The escalator doesn't work. Other than that, it's fine!
Posted by: mopar at January 6, 2009 5:41 PM
After hearing negative comments, I have to say I was really pleasantly surprised the 3 times I have been here-once during the holidays. In terms of presentation, it was akin to every other Target I have been to around the country (I have shopped at Target since I could walk). For as high a volume store as it is (have hear it is highest in the chain) I expected a disaster. The check out line was long once, but the other times I walked right up to an empty register and found customer service about 4000% better than any Duane Reade I have visited in my 20+years in the city.
Posted by: stray bongo at January 6, 2009 5:44 PM
I shop here for dog food because it is $6 cheaper than at the Met Food around the corner. Swiffers are cheaper, too. If I can walk to the store, buy two items and it saves me $8 from what I would pay at the Met, it is worth the walk, especially in this economy.
As others have said, first thing in the morning is when this store isn't a freak show.
I really think the worst thing is the used coffee cups that litter the shelves but that isn't the stores fault entirely.
I have met the enemy and it is us.
Posted by: duckwalk at January 6, 2009 5:55 PM
oh, my favorite subject. this target sucks, and going first thing saturday morning doesn't help. done that, and lo, still no diapers in my kid's size, still a mess (though, yeah, not as bad). i will say, though, i've been the beneficiary of the mess on a few occasions -- last available item missing its pricetag + cashier too lazy to look it up = $0.99!
about goldie's "genuine anger/bitterness" analysis, suffice to say that there's no difference in the world between two jerks who are bad at their jobs, even if we assume (based on...?) that one's crap attitude is somehow justified and the other's isn't.
Posted by: i disagree at January 6, 2009 5:57 PM
one more thing: this video is stupid.
Posted by: i disagree at January 6, 2009 6:02 PM
Why are you all shopping at Target, anyway? I thought part of what most of us liked about Brooklyn was the low density, low-rise nature of our brownstone and Victorian neighborhoods. If we don't support our local shopkeepers, it will all start to look like that block of Seventh Avenue between Union and Berkeley in Park Slope with the boarded-up storefronts and the damn Bank of America ATMs wasting space on the corner. No, I'm not rich, and yes, I'm as worried about my job and the economy as the next guy, but I'm willing to spend a few more bucks on pet food or diapers at the local bodega or grocery to keep another Duane Reade from moving in.
Posted by: Park Sloper at January 6, 2009 6:08 PM
I like to go after work - at like 8pm on a Tuesday it's fully-stocked and pretty empty. Would never go near the holidays or on a weekend.
Posted by: columbiatch at January 6, 2009 6:15 PM
And by local shopkeepers, you do of course mean the places that have been in business for less than five years and stock goat cheese, arugula, and Seventh Generation products.
Posted by: Heather at January 6, 2009 6:23 PM
Guys:
My best friend's dad said that he could never live in Brooklyn because you have to be strategic about things like parking, going to the grocery store, to the movies and trips to Target. The Target at Atlantic center has been in the top ten for sales of all Targets from the very first day it opened. It just confirms what we already know, the demand far exceeds the supply. On more than one occasion, I've walked away without an item on my shopping list. Clearly, Columbiatch has figured out one of the delivery days
So in Target at Atlantic Center's defense here are some things to consider.
Actually, the Target receives stock thrice a week. No doubt there is a measure of attitude but let's look at the other side.
Imagine, having spent the better part of two hours stocking and straigthening an aisle to discover that some inconsiderate customer has just bombe the aisle with kitty litter.
Last, grousing among fellow posters will get you nowhere. Can you send this post to Executive Customer Relations at Headquarters. Bet that will get the local district manager's attention.
Posted by: BrooklynIsHome at January 6, 2009 6:31 PM
"I'm willing to spend a few more bucks on pet food or diapers at the local bodega or grocery to keep another Duane Reade from moving in."
The local bodegas and groceries don't carry diapers in any reasonable size or price range.
I don't want my bodega's and groceries selling diapers. I want food, decent coffee, Ben and Jerry's, and some good fresh fruits or vegetables (which are rather hard to find here compared to Manhattan). I'm willing to overpay for all of these things if I can get them nearby and with good service.
I just ordered some diapers from Amazon.com, so we'll see how that goes. I may have some trouble if no one is around when UPS shows up, but I qualified for free shipping, the package shipped in less than 24 hours, and I didn't have to ride any escalators, stand in any lines, or get annoyed after a long day at work by someone who thinks it is my fault they have a crappy job.
Posted by: northsloperenter at January 6, 2009 6:38 PM
best thing about this video is the guru joints during the interludes. is everyone in park slope this corny? if so, things have changed even more than i thought. hopefully they'll get stabbed in part 2.
Posted by: BrooklynLove at January 6, 2009 6:45 PM
The normal consumer-retailer exchange since the evolution of societal structure around the time of the Sumerians:
Retailer: Hello.
Consumer: Hello.
money exchanged for goods
Retailer: Thank you.
Consumer: Thanks, goodbye.
The more recent politically correct/urban form of the transaction:
Retailer(angry cashier): passive aggressive silence combined with 1000yard stare.
Consumer: Hello.
money exchanged for goods while hearing the sound of pins dropping.
Retailer: angry stare denoting your obvious guilt for every and all historical slight since the antidiluvial age.
Consumer: silent retreat with resigned and self-conscious feelings of guilt mixed with relief that the tense situation is over, until the next time you need double A batteries.
Posted by: Legion at January 6, 2009 6:47 PM
This is funny, and surely race enters into it. Dig the soundtrack.
I didn't see the employees as unhelpful, they did their best. wtf is a duvet is right on. You want a duvet, go somewhere where they speak French.
And what cracks me up is all the people that claim they hate the big box stores, yet everyone seems to shop there.
I've been there exactly once in all the years it was open, cuz it ain't my speed. But if you really want shit service, try Circuit City and PC Richards over there.
Posted by: denton at January 6, 2009 7:12 PM
Truly probing expose.
Maybe if they'd said "comforter cover," a term used by many people, as opposed to "duvet" they might've gotten a better response. So obnoxious.
Posted by: nyc87 at January 6, 2009 7:40 PM
I'm also surprised to hear that this many people from this blog shop at Target. The same people, who no doubt at dinner parties claim to shop at their local stores and use cloth diapers.
I don't set foot in this place. I would also rather pay an extra dollar or two to shop at Super Savers or Neergaard or others in the neighborhood. The extra money is worth the time and effort wasted in a place like the Atlantic Center Target, in my opinion.
Good customer service went out the window with the advent of the computer age. People simply don't know how to interact with other people anymore on a human level. They were raised watching tv, playing video games and updating their myspace profiles. The computer age has done so many great things for society, but it has also made us all a lot more disconnected.
Posted by: 11217 at January 6, 2009 8:12 PM
There are a whole lot of people on the other side of Flatbush who come here, because...there are no nice little shops in their neighborhoods and this is the easiest place to get to. And some people can't afford to spend the extra dollar or two.
And if this is FIPS idea of hell, they should try an IKEA on a Saturday afternoon.
Posted by: nk at January 6, 2009 8:21 PM
"If we don't support our local shopkeepers, it will all start to look like that block of Seventh Avenue between Union and Berkeley in Park Slope"
***
I have to comment on this...this block includes:
Bank of America ATM
Amin Indian Restaurant
7th Ave Wine and Liquors
YoGo Monster Frozen Yogurt
The Park Cafe
Plaza Cleaners
Korean Bodega
Ideal Real Estate office
Ace Supermarket
Leaf and Bean
Roma Pizza
Another dry cleaners
Prospect Pharmacy
So yes...there are some boarded up places (where there was a fire, as I understand it) but the above businesses (most of which are local or at least local chains) are not bad for ONE SINGLE block of Brooklyn, I don't think. I definitely think you could find far worse blocks in NYC when it comes to retail.
I hope the 3 empty storefronts on the block are rented soon.
It's one of my least favorite blocks around, but it's FAR from what you seem to describe.
Posted by: 11217 at January 6, 2009 8:25 PM
FYI PS residents...
They are having a sale at Super Savers (7th between Union and President) and every item in the store is 25% off.
With that discount, I don't think one could do much better at Target. Might want to check it out if you leave nearby.
I think it's still going on anyway...it was the last time I was in there a couple days ago...
Posted by: 11217 at January 6, 2009 8:27 PM
I shop here because the clothes are cheap. However, some moron designed the store so that men's apparel is on the second floor and the fitting room is on the other side of the store on the first floor. Incredibly annoying! I was once in line to pay and the computer at the cash register crashed - the moron employees had no idea how to resolve the situation.
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at January 6, 2009 8:37 PM
my experience:
Clerk with slight tude at the register checking out one of my items(basic kitchen utensil):
"um this don't have a price tag"!
Me: well will it take a long time to find out the price?
Clerk: hmmm hmmm
Clerk: putting the item back in his bin of misfit toys
I didn't even have a chance!
oh whoa is me. Sure, I get it - this is an urban store that does major business and the workers are probably exhausted from the sheer number of customers etc, but you know being nice and having common sense doesn't take much, really!!!
he could have offered to do a price check or at least asked ME if I wanted the item still or if he was really savvy charged me $5 for the damn thing.
As far as the video - love the Guru/Gangstarr track, hate the fact the girl is asking about a duvet - i mean most people don't know what the is, especially a man(sorry !!)
can we now complain about the CVS on 9th street in park slope - I mean that place is HORRID - the lines have to stretch all the way down to the pharmacy before one of those little teenage girls decide to open another line up - I blame age above EVERYTHING ELSE!. I Agree with 11217 the generation that grew up pretty much on the computer( 14-23 )are in bad shape
Posted by: gemini10 at January 6, 2009 9:35 PM
"'m also surprised to hear that this many people from this blog shop at Target. The same people, who no doubt at dinner parties claim to shop at their local stores and use cloth diapers."
As far as I'm concerned, Target *is* a neighborhood store. I put it down as a perk when I moved here (and it still is, despite the godawful store management).
You should go to different dinner parties. Those sound awful.
"Good customer service went out the window with the advent of the computer age."
I get great service at my dry cleaner, at my laundromat, at my liquor store, at the corner store at St. Marks and 5th and the similar one at Bergen and 5th.
Of course, in all of those cases I'm fairly sure the employees are immigrants or the children of immigrants.
Posted by: northsloperenter at January 6, 2009 9:43 PM
Great Video! Target in Atlantic Station is disgusting. Hands down - empty shelves are a disgrace! I went in during the holidays and was disappointed. Thanks for exposing the truth. Anyone who condones their BS is in denial!
Posted by: jamrock at January 6, 2009 9:54 PM
Ghetto Unfabulous.
Posted by: chillmama at January 6, 2009 10:20 PM
Part of the reason customer service is so bad is that these jobs don't pay well, and everyone's expectations are low. Nobody is stupid here, the employees know they have bottom level, crap jobs paying just over minimum wage, management has no incentive to properly train them beyond the bare minimum, such as how to use the cash register, and customers know all of that, too.
So what do you get? Employees with permanent logs on their shoulders, mad at themselves for being stuck there, mad at management for making them stay there, and mad at customers for having the nerve to want to buy something and make them work.
Management, also poorly trained, btw, and not all that well paid either, is saddled with surly, underpaid, unhappy people that Upper Management is not ging to take the time and money to train correctly, because they know these people will leave within a year, and can easily be replaced by other surly, underpaid, unhappy people. The complaints of customers can be tolerated because they are still going to come and shop in droves, because Target is still the best deal around, no matter what some surly teenager does.
And customers? Well, most just want to get in and out with their purchases, but some are also rude, crude, inconsiderate, condescending pigs weho knock things off of racks and shelves, allow their kids to run wild in the store, open packages, and steal. They can treat employees like dirt, talk to them like they are mentally challenged children, and assume that just because you work in retail, you don't have a brain. (Can you tell I've worked in retail, and have issues, still?)
Frankly, the only way this is ever going to change is for Upper Management to take the time and money to properly train their staff, from hello to goodbye, and make them feel that a career, not just a job, is possible in retail, and that career can be financially and personally rewarding. They need to make it a part of their corporate culture, and they need to incentivise it. Nordstrom used to do that. Target is not going to, because it will cost money, and since they are doing quite well the way it is, why change? Too bad. It used to be that being a salesperson at a store was a decent job, not a job of last resort.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at January 7, 2009 12:12 AM
I usually go early-morning and don't have any problems. Now, with that said, depending on what you want to purchase, good luck! Trying to buy toys during the holidays isn't going to work. However, if you want stuff that isn't either wanted by everyone else or during a bonafide shopping "day", you'll have better luck. For example, there was a sale on luggage and ladies pajamas... I needed the luggage and the price was comparable to online stores but I didn't have to pay shipping and I bought the pajamas for Christmas morning (a tradition) and stockpiled them.
Furniture and bedding is a hit-mostly miss proposition. Magazines, though are 20% off the cover price and the food prices are great and keep you from having to make an extra stop.
Target isn't usually my first choice - I'd rather shop online. But, this Target is the closest to me. My suggestion: Go early, get the heck out of there and buy off-season (if feasible) and enjoy your Target experience :)
Posted by: i_heart_brooklyn at January 7, 2009 12:46 AM
Thanks for all this. As long as I live and breathe on this earth I will never, ever step foot in Atlantic Mall for anything.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at January 7, 2009 8:24 AM
I agree the service for these minimum wage employees is terrible and there is an obvious disconnect between being employeed and caring about your job. However, has anyone ever interacted with a branch of government service (i.e. Federal, State, City) I have on many occasions and the eperience is 10 times more abysmal than anything at Target!
Posted by: newsouthsloper at January 7, 2009 8:33 AM
And then there's the Post Office!!!!!! And this is where a lot of the above mentioned analysis stops regarding youth, unerpayed, etc. These lazy asses are usually grownups with a pension and probably six weeks vacation.
And then there's the MTA!!!!! And this is where....
I get really irritated when all these lazy ass people who think they are entitled to their jobs continue to show the attitude, arrogance and stupidity when there are so many more people out there willing to take their jobs.
I'm wound up today because the trains were slow. Watch Out. You've been warned!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at January 7, 2009 8:41 AM
just because someone is paid minimum wage is no excuse to do a shi++y job. at all. anyway im sure this topic is dead by now. dave the R train subway stop on union had a huge flood and people had to jump over (if possible) or step thru like 4 inches of water to get to the turnstyle :( also, hey people! close your damn umbrellas once youre already inside on the stairs. SO annoying. especially short skinny men who insist having circus tent size umbrellas. so obnoxious and so clearly trying to make up for inadequacies.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at January 7, 2009 9:34 AM
Why all the fuss about duvet? A duvet is a duvet. Its not a comforter cover. And its not a skinny thin comforter either. God help the English language, we'll all by using only 20 words in 10 years time, three of which are "sh%t".
Posted by: dittoburg at January 7, 2009 9:51 AM
Rob you are gdamn racist. Your statements reflect a mild retardation at best. This thread, telling in how many posts and how little anyone actually thinks about things that matter!
Posted by: Janice at January 7, 2009 10:02 AM
Oh, that Target isn't that bad. I've been to worse stores around the city. IKEA, anyone?
I do agree that this seems a little "lol, these poor black people don't know what a duvet cover is!"
Posted by: Peanut at January 7, 2009 10:04 AM
Janet, you're insane. seriously either back your ridiculous accusations up or back off.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at January 7, 2009 10:09 AM
I missed where rob supposedly made a racist remark- and I am never one to miss that! Think you owe him an apology, Janice.
U confess to a secret lust for Target. Not the one in the Atlantic Mall but when you need to feed your addiction, in a pinch it works :-)
Maybe it's just NYC, but when I go to a shop outside the area, people seem to be more friendly. But I've worked in retail also- if management doesn't properly train the employees, they won't know what's expected of them. On the other hand, customers can really be nightmares. I don't think its just younger people- rudeness runs across all generations.
Posted by: bxgrl at January 7, 2009 10:56 AM
MM,
I respectfully disagree. Back in the day I used to work for a national retail clothing chain. I started out as a cashier and because I actually gave a hoot I was promoted to front end manager, then asst. store manager, store manager and then regional manager within a 3 year time frame. At the age of 25.
If you show a modicum of interest and a blip of intellect you can work your way up the food chain. When I had a manager who didn't care I went above and beyond and if they didn't respond to I went to their managers.
These store are desperate for people who actually want to succeed. Show me a floor person who keeps their shelves full, clothes folded and in order and I'd promote them.
You get back what you put in.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at January 7, 2009 10:57 AM
Northsloperenter-
Try 1800diapers.com. Their prices are very competitive with Target and even better, they ship free with an order over $50. I usually buy 2 boxes a month. Their warehouse is in NJ so the shipping is usually next day.
Have to be home to get the UPS box but it saves me a trip to Target, for which I am very happy.
Posted by: ennuiater at January 7, 2009 10:58 AM
If I were Target I'd be seriously embarassed and praying that this doesn't find it's way to network news.
Posted by: binnyG at January 7, 2009 11:16 AM
Targhetto.
Posted by: MaxOthermoxx at January 7, 2009 12:03 PM
zing!
Posted by: SnarkSlope at January 7, 2009 12:27 PM
All I have to say is... never, ever go on a weekday around 3-4pm. Not only are the shelves empty and employees rude, but you also have to contend with the multitudes of rowdy teenagers hitting the Starbucks inside the Target store. The few workers who are actually helpful are stuck dealing with the kids crowding the entrance/ exit, so you're really sh** out of luck if you're looking for some help.
Posted by: daisyh at January 7, 2009 2:00 PM
duvet covers. really now. duvet covers.
you have to be pouring poop on my head. i mean can you come up with a more obscure item to ask for at a target store located in a urban center? for f---sake!
only white people will think of this and think they're clever for video taping it.
and who really cares if the shelves are bare at target? it's not like it's the only place in a five mile radius to shop at.
effed in park slope - - pleeeeeeese! two things: you need to recognize you're lucky to have the money to live there in park slope and know what a duvet is and secondly you ought to be effed for trying to shame others for not being as privileged as yourselves.
Posted by: runs with scissors at January 10, 2009 12:28 AM
this video is so hysterical, and right on!
i live 1 block from target, and i will only go in there if i have an emergency. the place is a DISGRACE; the shelves are ALWAYS empty.
and the service is pathetic. anyone that says "what do you expect from a neighborhood city store" in my opinion is a racist; there is a subtle undertone that black folk have lower expectations than others. this is such BS.or if you are black and beleive that, then you have unfortunately bought into the idea that black people dont expect the same level of service as white people do.
TARGET, as a major retailer, should not lower its standards because the store might attract a significant number of lower income buyers.
Shame on you Target; I hope someone sent this video to them.
Posted by: paulfradin at February 14, 2009 3:02 PM

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