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December 16, 2008

Tuesday Blogwrap

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Oh my gosh, what a blight. No wonder shillstoned does not want to live anywhere near it.

Posted by: Inigo at December 16, 2008 4:59 PM

My favorite theater in all of Brooklyn.

***Bid half off peak comps***

Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at December 16, 2008 5:05 PM

Very funny Inigo.
But I think Shill's points were sound. Too much difference to even begin to articulate between this particular traffic circle and, say, President Street between 6th and 7th. Or lovely Lincoln Place. And I suspect you know it. you're just sticking to a losing point like a ferret with its teeth sunk in. Insert winking smiley face here ;)

Posted by: Nokilissa at December 16, 2008 7:30 PM

But Nokilissa shill's point was perfectly inane. He was being critical of a wonderful co-op apartment on PPW because it was not a brownstone in the mibblock. that is just narrowness. It reminds me of the suburbanites near my mother's house who wonder how we can "live" without driveways, or without backyard pools. I mean everybody has their preference but to reject the worth of a lovely apartment because you could look out the window and see a bus, is just anti-urban, anti-city. why oh why do all these closet suburbanites want to live in Brooklyn? Brooklyn is nothing like the real suburbs and never will be, even if you live in a leafy midblock.

Posted by: Inigo at December 16, 2008 8:04 PM

This isn't PPW, it's the circle. It's not one bus, it's buses from three different lines that crisscross there, so it's pretty much constant. And of course it's not seeing the bus, it's hearing it. Those things are quite loud when accelerating. I lived for many years right above a bus stop, and the noise was a real drawback during the entire open windows season.

Posted by: Sparafucile at December 16, 2008 9:10 PM

people are such sissies on this blog. and they call themselves brooklynites? Ha! they are displaced cos cob- ites.

Posted by: Inigo at December 16, 2008 9:19 PM

Cos cob- ite(s)?

Guilty. I Used to live one floor above a diner in front of a busy avenue with two bus stops. Will never again. It was truly awful during "open window season", but not because of all of the noise, which was tremendous, but because of the black soot that would settle on every surface. An inch thick per week.

Posted by: Nokilissa at December 16, 2008 10:13 PM

quote:
Brooklyn is nothing like the real suburbs and never will be, even if you live in a leafy midblock.

sorry to burst your bubble, but brooklyn IS a suburb.

*Rob*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at December 17, 2008 9:16 AM

Just building the brooklyn bridge didn't make brooklyn a suburb.

Posted by: dittoburg at December 17, 2008 9:25 AM

you either look at it one of two ways... brooklyn is it's own city (it's the 4th largest, right?) OR it's a suburb of manhattan.. which it is. i dont know why people get uptight when you call brooklyn a suburb?!

driveways? check
free standing houses? check
big ass families? check
christmas caroling? check
stoop & yard sales? check
ikea? check
skies? check
green parrots & raccoons? check

i could go on and on and on.

*rob*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at December 17, 2008 9:33 AM

I dunno Rob. Most of Brooklyn is pretty inner-city by any definition. Residential does not = suburban.

Posted by: Petebklyn at December 17, 2008 9:45 AM

it's inner city in the same way that parts of "LA" are inner-city. but the suburbs of LA that are inner city. brooklyn is a suburb of manhattan. brooklyn is the not the city. it is most definitely a bedroom community of new york city, manhattan. i have no problem with that, but a lot of people do for some reason, i find it odd. must be residual guilt from growing up in other suburbs or something.

*rob*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at December 17, 2008 9:49 AM

Brooklyn Heights is America's First Suburb.
http://www.southbrooklyn.net/b_heights.html

However, as Petebklyn points out, by today's definitions and perceptions, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't fit that definition.

Posted by: Biff Champion at December 17, 2008 9:58 AM

Brooklyn is definitely NOT a suburb, it's part of the city. Even Staten Island (which is more "suburban" than anything in Brooklyn) is part of the city. NY Suburbs are on L.I., NJ, CT, Westchester, Rockland, etc.

Posted by: GHB at December 17, 2008 10:13 AM

I love Brooklyn, but let's be honest:

Brooklyn - Manhattan = Baltimore.

Posted by: SnarkSlope at December 17, 2008 10:15 AM

see look at ghb getting all angry about brooklyn being a suburb. it's that anger i don't understand.

*rob*

Posted by: PitbullNYC at December 17, 2008 10:21 AM

Snark, I think its more like Brooklyn-Manhattan=Philly.

What do you think Dave?

Posted by: wasder at December 17, 2008 10:43 AM

oh dear - Baltimore? Not the Baltimore I've been to.

Posted by: dittoburg at December 17, 2008 10:53 AM

NYc is 5 boroughs. Manhattan is the center but the boroughs are integral parts of the city, not suburbs. The problem with your kind of thinking is the same as Bloomberg's -everything for Manhattan and a lot less for the boroughs. Manhattan sucks it all up at the expense of Brooklyn. It used to be that when we talked about Manhattan we used to just call it "downtown." today when people talk about NYC they think it's only Manhattan.

I think it sucks, personally. I've watched Manhattan get more money, and more services over the years while Brooklyn Bronx, Queens and SI get less. Brooklyn started getting real attention when Bloomberg decided the downtown area was a great back office for Manhattan. I resent that kind of thinking- without the income from the outer boroughs, Manhattan buses could barely run.

Posted by: bxgrl at December 17, 2008 11:26 AM

I remember when this theatre was shuttered in the eighties. The circle looked like a ghost town! What an improvement to the area!

Posted by: motorinstructor at December 17, 2008 11:36 AM

The truth of the matter is that Manhattan commercial real estate tax, and income tax paid by Manhattan-based finance workers, are the cash cows that fills the city's coffers. Not to mention that Manhattan businesses employ the vast majority of the city's private sector workers, and constitute pretty much all of NYC's export industry. The only other significant locations for private sector jobs are the airports in Queens. There are a relative handful of 'back-office' jobs in Downtown Brooklyn and LIC, which only exist due to proximity to Manhattan, and are far smaller than the similar concentration in Jersey City. The density of Manhattan's commercial districts is what allows the boroughs to have lower property taxes than other suburbs.

Posted by: Sparafucile at December 17, 2008 11:46 AM

well then, by all means let's thank them fro our current situation. An why don't we test it out by allowing the outer boroughs to secede? the boroughs are part of an integrated whole- but everyone else gets shortchanged because Manhattan gets so much. Brooklyn is not a suburb.

Posted by: bxgrl at December 17, 2008 12:27 PM

"Snark, I think its more like Brooklyn-Manhattan=Philly."

Agreed. That was my other choice. Can I hire you as my editor?

Posted by: SnarkSlope at December 17, 2008 1:10 PM

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